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Report: Maxwell Round Rock Nissan (owned By Maxwell Autogroup)

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Guy McRee, General Manager, Maxwell Round Rock Nissan (owned By Maxwell Autogroup) Fraudulent Service Department: Unauthorized parts & repair charges to my vehicle Round Rock & Austin Texas

... Maxwell Settled via Better Buness Bureau (BBB) Mediation

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Maxwell Round Rock Nissan (owned By Maxwell Autogroup)

3050 N. IH 35 & Bldg 1 13581 N Highway 183
Round Rock & Austin Texas 78681
U.S.A.
Phone:  877-201-4880
Web Address:  

Category: Auto Dealer Repairs


Submitted: Monday, February 23, 2009

Last posting: Monday, October 12, 2009
(1) On January 2009 I presented my vehicle, a 2002 Nissan Xterra, to the Maxwell Round Rock Nissan service department to have diagnostics performed because my car was running rough. Clint, my contact in the service department, quoted me $105 for this diagnostic work. I agreed to this charge and signed a "PreWorkOrder" indicating I agreed to the $105.

(2) Clint kept my vehicle for over a month trying to diagnose it. During this period I spoke to him many, many times. During every conversation, I expressed concern about why it was taking so long and I verified over and over that I would not be charged more than the $105. Clint assured me there would be no additional charges beyond the $105.

(3) Over the month he had my car, there were many things Clint thought might be wrong with my vehicle. First he thought it was a bad mass flow valve. Turned out he was wrong. Then he thought it was bad spark plugs & wires and a bad distributor cap. Turns out he was wrong. Then he thought it was a bad super charger.

(4) Then, on February 18, 2009, Clint informed me that he was wrong again - the problem was not the super charger. The problem was that the compression on cylinder #4 was very low and that I need a new engine. I asked Clint for a quote for a new engine (parts & labor).

(5) I called Clint the next morning, February 19, 2009, and he verbally quoted me more than $5,000 to do this work. I told him that was too much - the car was not worth much more than that. I then told Clint that I wanted to come and pick up my vehicle and asked when I could do so. Clint then informed me he had put a new super charger on the vehicle when they were doing their diagnostics and that he would need to charge me labor to remove it, or....... I could pay for the new supercharger. I told Clint that I was not paying for a new super charger and I was not paying for any labor to put my old one back on because (1) he just told me the day before that there was nothing wrong with my super charger, and (2) I had not authorized anyone to put a new super charger on my vehicle. He then told me the dealership would keep my vehicle until I paid for one or the other. I then asked him to have his supervisor, Jorg VanPatten, call me. I never received a call back from him.

(6) On February 20, 2009, I called the dealership again and also went into the dealership in person to try to resolve this issue. I was able to speak with Clint, Jorg, and Guy McRee, their General Manager. All 3 of them informed me that they had changed their mind. They now refused to remove the super charger and insisted I keep it and pay for it. They said it was because they had just found out they could not return the super charger to Nissan because it is classified as a "performance part". I told them that what they were trying to do was fraudulent and that I would contact a lawyer.

(7) That same day, after contacting a lawyer I again spoke to Jorg, the Service Manager, and Guy, the General Manager, over the phone. I told them that under TX state law, it was illegal for them to replace my super charger when there was nothing wrong with it. And, it was illegal for them to put a new super charger on my vehicle when I did not authorize them to do so. I told them they needed to put my vehicle back the way it was when I left it with them (put my old super charger back on, etc.) and to present me with some kind of bill. I told them that I understood that legally, in order to get my vehicle back, I had to pay whatever bill they presented me with. But, even though I would pay the bill, I do not agree with any charges besides the $105 for diagnostics. Therefore, I would pursue this matter in court to get my money returned to me. They agreed to return my car to its original state and to have my vehicle ready for me sometime on February 23, 2009.

(8) At 6 pm on February 20, 2009 I sent an e-mail to Jorg and Guy reiterating the above facts, and indicating the following:

(a) The fraudulent acts they committed are covered under Texas state's Deceptive Trade Practices - Consumer Protection Act. However, I would prefer to resolve this issue without litigation. Therefore, if they presented me with a bill on February 23, 2009 for only $105 and they returned my vehicle to the state it was in when I left it at their facility for diagnostics, I would consider this matter resolved and I would take no further action against them.

(b) However, if they did not comply, then I would file a claim against them in civil court to recover my money. In addition, I would file a consumer complaint with the Texas Attorney General, the Better Business Bureau, and the Federal Trade Commission.

(9) On February 23, 2009 they called me to say my car was ready. At the dealership I was presented with and paid a bill for $1,687.25. The charges were for the new supercharger (which they tried to get me to take with me, but I refused) and for labor charges to remove the new super charger from my vehicle and put my original one back on. I wrote on every page of the invoice that I did not agree with the charges and that I had never authorized the purchase of any parts or repairs.

(10) They entered false information in the notes on the invoice, saying I had authorized installation of a new super charger because my old one was "very noisy internally". However, they entered those notes on February 19, 2009 at 4:51 pm, 4:54 pm and 4:58 pm (date stamped by their own computer!). This was well after I had already had my morning conversation with Clint telling him that I was not paying for parts and/or work I did not authorize.

Guy McRee, General Manager: gmcree@maxwellauto.com
Jorg VanPatten, Service Manager: jvanpatten@maxwellauto.com
Clint Collins, Service Advisor: ccollins@maxwellauto.com

Anonymous
Round Rock, Texas
U.S.A.



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POSTED: Monday, October 12, 2009

It took 5 long months, but finally on 7/22/09, with the help of the Better Business Bureau (BBB), I was able to reach an amicable settlement with Maxwell Round Rock Nissan.


In case anyone else wants to pursue a complaint against them, here is how it worked in my case.....


First, I had to submit a complaint to the BBB with a detailed statement about what happened. You can easily do this on-line like I did -- it doesn't cost a thing, except your time. Then, Maxwell submitted their version of what happened. (We both had to do this several times because Clint and/or his supervisors continued to lie about what happened.)


When it was clear that this process was going nowhere, I requested mediation via the BBB. I had to pay the BBB $70 for this mediation service. In order to use mediation, Maxwell Nissan had to agree. If they had not agreed, the BBB would have listed my complaint on the BBB web site as "unresolved" and they wouldn't have been able to help me any further. Then, if I wanted any justice, I would have had to pursue this in small claims court -- which I was certainly planning to do. There was no way I was going to just be quiet and let them get away with this.


BBB used a neutral, 3rd party as the mediator and they set up a mediation meeting that was convenient for everyone. You can go to their office for this meeting or do it over the phone -- like I did.


Maxwell dragged this process out as long as they possibly could, probably hoping I would get tired and go away. They took their time to respond to everything from the BBB and then canceled the 1st mediation meeting at the last minute. So, if you decide to go this route, don't get discouraged by their tactics and don't give up.


Using mediation, I was finally able to get them to agree to a reasonable settlement. But, beware...Even after they signed the settlement agreement, which is a legally binding agreement, they dragged their feet for a whole month before getting me my check. I had to complain several times to the BBB. When they finally responded to the BBB, they claimed they never received a copy of the 1 page settlement from the BBB. Yeah, right...


And, finally... If I had not posted to Ripoff Report and www.yelp.com I would have had little chance of getting these guys to respond appropriately, and I would have had to waste more time going to small claims court. Maxwell only agreed to settle through the BBB if I agreed to amend my posts on both of these sites. Thank you Ripoff Report!


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