Tires Plus Fraud, rip off, wife almost got ran over from pissed off employees Burnsville, Savage Minnesota

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glenn if your ball joints were not bad why did you have them replaced at the apple valley store along with an idler arm?? you even purchase a 3 year alignment. so if nothing was wrong with your car why did you have that work done???

Glenn, will you answer the question about a new truck having worn ball joints?

I'm going to hazard a guess here. You changed the tires and/or wheels in violation of the truck's warranty and couldn't go back to the dealer. They were oversize tires and/or wheels which put a load on the suspension that the truck wasn't designed for, thereby wearing out your joints prematurely and voiding your vehicle's warranty. If that's the case, be sure to have your wheel bearings checked too, because trouble is coming.

Never let your wife jump into your business dealings and throw a fit, especially in an automotive environment. It makes you look like a real wimp to people like Robert (joking) and they won't want your business.

Ex-employee ?

Are you the one that tried to run my wife over. or you the one that loosened my ideler arm? Apple valley replaced it because I was told it was 'about to fall off'. Which would mean A-you missed that or B you damaged it in your anger fit that we would not pay 650.00 for ball joints that were good.

The tech also told the balljoints would be good for another year but while he had it apart he would replace them for 125.He was a honest man. You like everyone that works for tiresplus missed the point You cannot continue to lie ,do bad work and treat people like you do at the savage store.

Talk to the apple valley store maybe they can give you some courses in treating people with bad tires right and just replace them. The court is about lieing about the balljoints about to fall off and nearly running my wife over.

Ha. Nice try-you're in way too far over your head.

"To you in New Jersy give me a brake do you even have a clue 11,000 or 51,000 miles those ball joints better not be common to go out. Those tires should have been replaced with a simple mentioning about the ball joints"

Try again. Reread the whole actual thread-especially the reply I made of a FACT related to Dodge trucks (and that's only one example) and then read how ridiculous your reply is. Mileage is not a determination of longevity of parts other mitigating factors are. That's where this whole complaint falls on it's own face. Alleged facts have already been skewed.

You armchair mechanics are funny.

Now the true story finally starts to come out.

You are a geniune tool. Now all of a sudden, the vehicle has 51,000 and worn tires which is more possible and makes even more sense than if the vehicle only had 11,000 which is the way you wrote the complaint-purposely leaving the small mileage factoid out-but you wouldn't have gotten the sympathy then would ya.

You certainly can't blame anyone for worn suspension parts at 51,000 miles especially if they "weren't needed" yet you had the replaced anyway. So, your complaint and repeated story of how your wife was allegedly almost run over are laughable now.

I AM SICK OF ANSWERING YOU

once again you twisted all the words around. LISTEN instead of badgering me why dont you be a good little boy,AND BACK UP WHAT YOU SELL?AND making light of how my wife was treated if you thinks thats cool ;go do something that your good at like kick your dog or beat your wife.Can hardly wait till court so you tiresplus jerks can go on to your next victim.

Very scary!

The more I see on this story the more I am sure that not only is this Tires Plus unprofessional and fraudulent but they indeed seem sexist as well. I do hope that we all open our eyes and question repairs that seem "unneeded" as it is every evident that there is "scam artists" out there! They often prey on eldery and women. I hope they do a full investigation on this shop or maybe they are doing this as we speak and release this info to as many people as possible. News channels, websites, word of mouth. Put people like this out of business. So very scary that a man would try to run over your wife!! I wish nothing but justice for you and your wife Glenn and please know that you are doing the right thing no matter how hard it may be.

You are correct Glen

Last summer I had some struts loaded at a local MN Tires Plus. I do my own auto work and am no stranger to a shop. I was near the guy loading my struts and this guy scared the hell out of me. I had to walk on more then egg shells, or I swear this guy was ready to go ballistic for no reason, just an attitude. Well now I know the kind of psychopaths they have working there and I firmly believe the guy in Glenn's store did in fact go ballistic. My advice is if you want your car worked on and if you want to deal with ex-cons then go to Tires Plus. Otherwise to to a store where they are honest and don't hire weirdos. I will not step foot in a Tires Plus again for any reason.

what you gotta be kidding

my girl friend turned me on to this site and story. I am a mechanic at another brand auto/tire shop in the metro area. what i have seen on this makes me proud not to be with tires plus. it is off the wall to me how a company can take some ones vechicle and demand service that is required or not required is very unacceptable.
the customer is why we all have jobs and to treat one like these people have been treated whithout penalty would be a sad day in america.

To you in New Jersy give me a brake do you even have a clue 11,000 or 51,000 miles those ball joints better not be common to go out. Those tires should have been replaced with a simple mentioning about the ball joints.Quality costermer service and good people would have prevailed over demanding they have the service done and running people down. Tires Plus and anyone who supports them on this needs a good lesson in quality automative service and customer care because Im sad to say you failed far below unacceptable.SHAME ON YOU. go get your money Glenn My shop and I know you deserve it.

glenn

don't you think that its funny glenn that all the people that have "nothing" to do with tires plus are so interested in your case.my advice is to just not say anything else. they are just trying to make you angry.just go to court and win. and i know you will.and i will tell everyone i know NOT to shop at tires plus. the way they treat women makes me so sick! thanks glenn.

To all tiresplus employees

Number one the tires were never changed they came with the truck brand new.NUMBER two they had 40,000 miles just wanted a better tire. Now comes the part where you have to READ slowly;I NEVER had a problem UNTILL I bought new tires from Wayne in savage. NUMBER THREE MY wife never flipped we were told the balljoints were going to fall off so we ask him nicely to just replace the tires and would get someone to look at them and maybe come back to him to replace.

He said no.ONLY if you replace the balljoints. 650.00 My wife told him she would sign a paper holding him not responseable.He said NO and flipped ran at her like a bull kicked her out of the store yelling with spit fying from his mouth. I told them bring my truck down now!!! SO buddy I know you job is to try like Robert to pis people off ITS not going to work so foward this to your boss in fla.

Robert on vacation john?

I would like to thank those who have been reading this that have understood what I have been though with this company,since nov. Tom s.c michell and boyfriend shakopee mn. amanda mlps. ryan maple grove mn. rhonda s.dak. alan mlps.And most of all ripoff for posting.You all have made me feel great during this whole ordeal.And I have been in contact with the local news one is very interested.As for you John you say the same thing on every tireplus case.You need a new scrip to follow. Take some time off,go visit robert in fla.there is just no way to express to someone like you that finds humor in my wife being nearly being run over.I am a much better man then you because I could not have a job that was all based on lies and b.s I hope they pay well.

I love how the story keeps changing

The mileage of the vehicle has quintupled, and the reason for replacing the ball joints is on it's 3rd or 4th revision.

Now, the joints were replaced for no reason, other than they could be done for $125. Good reason to replace a perfectly good ball joint.

Everything on my car is perfect. I think I'll replace all of the parts anyway. Why not? There's nothing wrong with them.

My liver and heart are in good working order. I think I'll get on the organ recipient list. Since mine work fine, I know they need to be replaced.

I hope Court TV starts doing small claims coverage. This case could be their ratings winner. Of course, they would have to call it FRIVOLOUS claims court. BTW, in order to prevail in court, you have to show damages. What damages have you incurred? You paid NOTHING, and got NOTHING.

Your claim will be dismissed with all due prejudice.

Robert on vacation, John?

Or in court? Find some new things to write you say the same crap to everyone bla bla bla.To all the people following this that have been ripped off by a tiresplus in minnesota ,you may see this on the news soon.Someone has contacted us about it. John take the day off spend more time in your winter home in fla. or spit on your wife and chase her down the driveway with your car. now that there is funny john!

Request for Glenn

Glenn, do you have a court date yet? Keep us posted on what happens. This is one of the most interesting stories on ROR. I also like to follow it since it involves fellow Minnesotans.

Thanks.

Hey Michelle...

I am in lots of DIFFERENT reports. Most are automotive, as I am a mechanic.

So far, nobody has been able to refute a single thing I have said. Twist my words if you will, but MY story remains the same. I don't have to keep changing it when someone points out the flaws...because there are none.

hey ROBRET

hey i got an idea why dont you give your fingers a rest and do your "mechanic" job that you so call have. its pretty bad when you have to check every tires plus case and tell people they dont know what the hell there talking about. any buddy that knows anything about cars is always a "arm chair mechanic" thanks for your input but no one cares about your opinion.

Let the courts decide

Glenn do not be concerned with what some people write about your situation. Some will give their opinions and state them just like they were standing with you at Tires Plus when it happened. When in fact they are 1500 miles away and don't know squat. What matters will be what the Judge says in court after hearing both sides, if there are going to be 2 sides. It may be that Tires Plus will be a no show and if that happens you will win by default. Please post what the court decides, and good luck. Remember Tires Plus sucks.

corp. office -Morgan TIRE AND AUTO

V.P. bRUCE MORGAN we have called your office 6 weeks ago half dozen times. You never returned the calls to get this matter taken care of.so we be in court next week.

ROBERT BACK FROM PLANT TIRE SO SOON

How did your probe go? John was not as good as you at the bullshit. You say I paid nothing I paid tiresplus 1,800 in 11 months for tires now thats alot to me.and having things replaced that I did not need would have to ask the apple valley store that question not me. Are you retarted ,did someone in the corp. die to make you boss? To all you people out there; you can go to any ripoff tiresplus report you will see all the same names mostly fla. and new jersey they will repeat the same thing over and over. They dont even read the storys. The main office is in fla. And robert and John did you take the little bus to school is that how you met?Or was it in a mental hospital? You both should worry about losing your jobs more then me losing in court. All tiresplus should give out lubricant with every warranty because your going to get screwed in the end.To all that support me court is next week. So you will see robber and johnny boy again on here.I think it is time they move on to someone eles who gives a crap.because I dont anymore.

thanks glenn

hey, glenn i checked and your right robert is on every report for tires plus.

had a few robtard?

Your job is walkin a fine line by now. You are not scareing anyone into not going to court.I WILL have many unhappy tiresplus victims with us and I didnt have far to look. standing room only the reponse was overwelming.Hope to see you there.And for anyone who would like to attend who has had your money stolen by these people We will post time date next week. bring you camra robtart the tire wizard may show He will be wearing a cape and a tire on his head and be passing out k-y jelly.I WILL WIN IN COURT. go on to someone who you can scare (little old ladys) your like a fly buzzing in my ear. have another one and pass it back to john boy.

Glenn, please do yourself a favor

Try not changing your story each, and every time you post.

You have yet to stick to one story in all of your missives.

People notice these things. So do Judges. This is why you will lose in Court. The Judge will expect you to maintain one tale, not chaenge it up every few minutes as the plot takes a bad turn.

ITS ROBTARD DEFENDER OF EVIL

I am in contact with minnesota Attorney General. They want to know the out come,they said should have come to them first and they would have gotten it takin care of.They know Moran tire own tiresplus.But are waiting the out come.To see how they handle this.And they will take it from there. As far as them not showing in court Wayne/owner/part owner/has filed a counterclaim based on lies said we call him everyday and went to his store. Hope he has phone records cause once again you will see he is dishonest and a scammer. To ROBTARD ;the story stays the same you are getting your ripoff site mixed up so many to watch. Robtard do you remember the little school bus you rode on ? and everybody sang "the wheels on the bus go round and round and you and john sang the wheels on the bus go flat flat flat. you were gone 28 days; rehab I hope. Stay on the meds and maybe the outer space people will leave you alone. remember they probed you last time. When you go out to save the tire world do you wear a cape or just a tire over your head?

Employees Paid on Commission

First of all, we know that the employees down at Tires Plus are paid on commission, which is why the one time I went to Tires Plus in Maple Grove I was badgered for more than 10 minutes about buying new tires for my car. After refusing to buy them, I went to Discount Tire Co., where employees are paid hourly. After actually taking the time to measure the tread on my tires they informed me that my tires were fine and I wouldn't need them replaced for at least another 6 months. So I totally believe Glenn's comment on Wayne trying to talk him into buying unneeded parts. And Wayne, Glenn did not say that he got all the unneeded work done. He only got his tires replaced, which is all he was hoping for at your store in the first place. He didn't end up getting his ball joints replaced like you tried talking him into. I feel for you Glenn. I know how exhausting it can be when big businesses are constantly trying to steal your hard-earned money. Good Luck with your lawsuit.

I also had tires replaced....

and they "informed" me that I needed ball joints in my truck. Which was funny because I had just bought $400 worth of tires and was talking to my b/f in the waiting room about how much we had to spend on them. Well, while they were replacing them, they suddenly found out that I needed ball joints which were coincidently going to cost another $6oo or so, and the guy was going to give me a little discount because I had just bought tires there and he knew that I didn't have much more to spend because I had kids and all. I had recieved a settlement for about $1100 and was talking to my b/f in the waiting room while picking out the tires and suspect that is the cause of the bad ball joints. I bought the tires about a year ago, I still haven't replaced the ball joints which could go out at any moment in their opinion.

Okay.

Just had to respond to this.

Robert is right, you do keep changing your story.

Also if the original story is correct then why was your wife not standing on the sidewalk? Why was she in the street to be hit?

I've been the wife in situations where my husband has gotten mad at a mechanic and I have left (on my own accord at him being such an a**) and they have gotten upset and drove his car erractically but I had the good sense to keep myself outside yet right next to the building so I wouldn't even be in a position to be hit.

that's just common sense, I do the same while waiting for a car driven by my husband, my mother, valets etc.

Why was she in a place where she could have been hit by a car?

If she had been hit by someone coming in with problems with their brakes and was in the road who would you blame then?

Hide the children and wife theres a tiresplus !

I really dont believe you hide against a building when around auto shops. but I do see the picture you are trying to paint. Me running though the streets half crazed out of my mind right after juming on the counter inside the store. I am not crazy nor am I stupid. The judge will decide. What amazes me the most is the extreme in which tire companys will go though not to refund your money. They had to put a number on the back of receits to call when you have a problem. 'someone will call you back in two days"nobody EVER calls you back. And ya know why; they couldnt care less they got your money. But you can only treat people that way for so long. I suppose you could change your name AGAIN.

when is your court date glenn?

you said you were going to post when your court date was. just wondering if you already went and what the outcome was.

no more joking

We have tried to resovle this problem with the tiresplus corp. office and Mogan tire and auto but will not return any calls. No wonder why if you put tireplus ripoff complaints,must not be enough time in the day.BUT fed up waiting.So anyboby who has been ripped.

As a fellow minnesota we DONT LIKE BEING RIPPED OFF. Every man and women who has been; I coin a phase I am mad as hell and not going to take it anymore. They treat people with no respect what so ever. Dont we deserve better ?We work hard for our money , why should I be charged twice for tires in one year. So they can live in luxury . Court is Friday 26th. so if you care to see how this comes out you are welcome in shakopee. This will be our last post. The truth is on my side.

Don't leave us hanging, Glenn

You said this is your last post. You can't do that to us! I've been following this story since the beginning and I'm dying to know what happens. If you don't give us a final update, it would be like the TV exploding with five minutes left in the Super Bowl with the score tied!

I know right where the courthouse is in
Shake-a-Pee. I testified there at a friend's DWI trial once upon a time.

Go get 'em, Tiger, and for God's sake, let us know what happens!

Good luck.

court date jan.26th Friday 9am

hey dick and all minnesotans that have been following this story. Thought I would fill you all in. Had a interesting call yesterday from someone who is a tiresplus lawyer who offered me what she said was pretty good deal to drop the subpoena of the guy that did the work the one that said balljoints not bad enough to cause to tire failure(Apple Valley)and burnsville store;whos customer service is not one of his strong suits. Hang on to your shorts everybody grand total ZERO those are corp. stores. I dont know the different from private owned which the savage one is Tiresplus is on the sign but they claim not responsible for them . SO they really are not tiresplus they just use their name. No where on any sign do I see private owned. If a company useing the same name they should be held responsible.SO....boys and girls If it quacks like a duck and walks like a THEN ITS A DUCK. sO court it is and attorney general is next!

Yep, update this after you lose

You'll claim you won, so make sure you scan and post the Judgement you get against them.

In reality, you'll lose because you have NO DAMAGES. You have to have been injured in some way to recieve compensation. You lost no money, and nobody was physically touched by anything.

Glenn, it's Leticia again. (I AM NOT ROBERT!)

First off yes, some businesses do sell their name to other people, it's called a privately owned franchise.

McDonald's does it, as well as 7-11, most gas stations, etc. They pay a very large sum to be allowed to use the name, sell the products, but at the same time have NOTHING else to do with the corporate entity.

I'm still wondering about why your wife was where she could be hit, since yes I stay clear of ANY moving car. IE, in a parking lot I will wait and let a car pull out, I will wait until the street is clear because crossing while not at a streetlight (even if it means waiting for several minutes).

It's not that I am hiding scared, it's just COMMON SENSE to avoid being hit by a car to me. As my mother has always told me, do not put yourself into a situation where you may be hurt. (be it a car or just normal life experience) it works all of the time.

glenn

me,my boyfriend and a few of his friends have been following this report from the start.we will all be at the court house tomorrow to support you so we look forward to meeting you there.one of my boyfriends friends wanted me to ask you what news station will be there? you mentioned that one might be there.just wanted to know the details on that.

thanks much

Keep the Faith Glenn and Company

I have been following this story for some time as I myself have been a victim of fraud and unethical business practice and am so hoping that this gets the word of mouth and hit them in the pocket book. I will be there is faith for you in court. Who knows, perhaps the judge himself will have been a victim of bad business as one time...
FYI...I had some fun googling...
Put in Tires plus bad at google.com
Results 1 - 10 of about 1,220,000 for tires plus bad. (0.47 seconds)..
There is many more of US then them and I smell a class action!
Please keep the faith and I have forwarded this story to at least a 100 people and those people and so on an so forth...

No Michelle, you need to reread his story...every version of it

He went there because his tires were wearing/worn out. He was told he needed new ball joints, and that's why the tires weren't going to be warranteed. He insists the ball joints are fine.

Afterwards, he goes to another tire store, and has the ball joints replaced. He claims he had them replaced because they were done CHEAP. Uh huh.

Now Michelle, try and use a little bit of common sense in this. Pretend you own the vehicle. Are you going to spend money replacing something that is not bad, like...say...the ball joints?

If you have an IQ above that of a stone, you would not.

Glenn paid to replace them because the other shop also showed him they were bad, and told him there would be no warranty on the tires he bought there if they weren't replaced.

DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH!!!!!

Glenn suffered no injury of any sort(other than his wounded pride), and will have his case dismissed.

michelle

I do not sit in my house scared about life. The reason I put anytown, and other was at the time I didn't live in the US or on an army post, although I did live on what was considered american property (Government Leased housing) so I didn't feel comfortable putting my APO, (because I did NOT live there).

Okay now that's settled what about having common sense not to be in the street when there is a sidewalk available or not getting into a car with a stranger, etc. is now suddenly being scared to go anywhere? I walk places all of the time, but I would prefer to cross the street twice to walk on the sidewalk rather than in the street, so I must be so scared that I do not leave my house?

Which would you rather do? Walk in the street of a two lane road or walk on the side with the sidewalk? (I guess from your response to me that you would walk in the street and then sue anyone who hit you even though you had a way to walk that was off the street).

ROBERT, will you be at the court house tomorrow

so you can say duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu to my face. nope you will not be there will you? you get so angry because you think your always right but your not this time.insult me again robert if thats what makes you feel good.now go call your wife names.

DEAREST LETICIA

you came in at the last of the tireplus game. The words you use are the same, common sense,robert is right;heres another one that gets used alot it will be tossed out of court. send the poor women in last too bad to late byebye

leticia,robert

leticia "ANYTOWN" i guess you have to say that out of fear or something."do not put yourself into a situation where you may be hurt" do you ever leave your house? because there are lots of ways people can get hurt.lets just put it this way if you slipped and fell on some ice when you were hiding by a store front and you broke your leg would you sue? when you go to a store do you wait untill someone walks you to your car? before tou leave the curb. get my point? and rob i just cant stop laughing at what you have to say how many times do you have to read glenn's story to understand he lost MONEY. and he will get it back.

Question

So, Glenn, just curious as to how your court appearence went? Win big, or what?...

--Michelle, did you ever make your big television debut on the news? Or did they too decide that the situation was not worthy for air time?

--And Miss Amanda and your fun with Google, I switched it up a little and put "tires plus good" in the search and got 1,250,000 in .17 seconds. So what are you trying to prove?

--And to all you women out there complaining about how men take advantage of you, don't sit online and complain. If you feel that someone is pressuring you because you're a woman, flat out tell them how you feel. Don't just stand there and act like you don't know anything (even if you dont) People get taken advantage of because they allow it to happen.

Glenn, how much money did you win?

Your court case was today, right? Please tell us the case number, about the media coverage, and the amount of your judgement. We're all waiting. Was anyone punished for attempting to murder your wife over ball joints?

3 days post hearing...

I wonder how it went....

Anyone get a court, case, or docket number?

Glen, please share with us how to be protected at tiresplus

Glen,
Since you haven't posted anything we can only assume you're too busy spending all the money you won from tires plus.

Can you please share with us how we can protect ourselves from companies that are good enough to expand into nearly every state in the country, but then go bad when you're involved?

How much money did you win?

Did the judge thank you for bringing all of this to his/her attention?

Still no word, eh?

Is there anyone in the Apple Valley MN area that is familiar with the Court or it's websight? Maybe we can search out the results for ourselves since Glenn has been so quiet...

I'd really like to know how this turns out.

Counterclaim?FOR HARASSMENT?

nOT ONE TIME HAVE WE CALLED YOU OR CAME TO THE STORE. Just the facts is all the judge wants to hear;not posting on a website .You could bring the phone records that might help. ITS a bad sign when Your company has to check ripoff.com for comments. I suggest you read the story you wrote.I have told the truth from the start.I also told you I have audio and video. I filed a police report,that states that you were agressive;why did you not file a report? You are not the victim here and will see you in court. PLEASE Stop this as it is making me very distraught Holly

tiresplus I bought tires 10/05 ,11,000 miles 75%gone 10/06 went to savage store ;pissed off employee almost runs wife over

went to the savage store and wayne keeran took the truck in and had an employee put it on lift,after listening to wayne for about an hour making excuses he ask me to go to the back to see how bad my balljoints were,he tried with all he had to make them move and they did not move at all. I told him I only wanted the tires replaced;as they were under warranty (50,000)and told him I would have someone at a other shop look at the balljoints.

His reply was "NO If I dont replace them (by the way the price was 650 bucks) then I wont replace the tires! Now this mad my wife angry and told this wayne she thinks he is trying to rip us off well....at this point wayne rushes at her and yells "get out of my store"! We wanted to go but they had our truck still on the lift. my wife went to the parking lot were the trucks was being backed out and started to walk toward the truck the employee saw her started the truck and drove towards her all the while she kept telling him to stop and came close to hitting her drove to the front door locking the truck so she still couldnt get in.I got the keys and told them I was going to the brunsville store.

The manager of that store told me he was to busy to look at the tires; I told everyone in the store if your here for tires come look at my tires and what they look like after 11,000 miles one year duelers bridgestone a/t and the service I AM GETTING. he told me "YOu have one minute to leave" In the end I had the truck checked in apple valley and the ball joints were not bad and did get the tires replaced: after 8 hours thats service for ya!

Glenn, you have to understand that family of tires!

Bridgestone bought Firestone so the tires were labeled as

Bridgestone----Firestone

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Tombstone

Why don't you get Michelin? You won't be disappointed!

"Robert" in Fla. comments on all Tiresplus Wow either has no life or works for tiresplus!

tires plus is headquarters in fla. I dont know "Robert" sounds kinda like you work with them or for them. Your just as rude as they are.The snakey comment you made about my truck not that you listen very well (ATD)the truck is one year old and has nothing worn under it and I know this because tiresplus told me so it must be true...right? People get mad when they get ripped you sir rub salt in the wounds. Your just a watchdog for the fatcats you comment on every case for tiresplus.Your not fooling anyone

Something is worn out, besides the tires

If you only have 11K miles on them, and they are worn out/wearing unevenly, you have something in the front end/back end/both that is worn out also.

I'll be reading your post next year about how the other tire store ripped you off when they don't replace your tires for free after another 11K miles.

So someone with 'any' knowledge must be a rip off?

So just because Bob has mechanical knowledge he 'must' work with/for them and is a rip off.

I know you don't know this-and there are no Tire Plus around here so I have no vested interest in them. This is merely an example.

Late '90 generation 2 Dodge trucks have/had terrible ball joints. The problem really showed up if you put a plow on the truck. So when the truck went to a shop with only 10,000-20,000-30,000 miles with worn tires and the trucks needed ball joints then it was a rip off?

No reason to bash people who have knowledge in a given field just because it doesn't fit your agenda.

Why did you need tires at only 11,000 miles anyway?

Working there

If Robert worked for half the companies people accuse him off, he'd not only be rich, but there wouldn't be enough hours in the week for him to work it.

Why is it when someone makes clear obserbations, people always think they work for whatever company?

Where is all my money?

I must be one heck of a good multi-tasker to hold the dozens of full time jobs I'm accused of doing.

Where are my paychecks? Have I been ripped off?

realist69

sorry for my reluctance, but I see you are also from Minnesota, as is the infamous Glenn family. I can't help but thinking how you have come across this page as it was buried nearly 380 pages back from the 1st page at the time I write this. IF you did a tires plus search, you will have noticed a second ROR from the infamous sunny/glenn of Minnesota.

Sorry for my skepticism but I'm thinking you may be related to the original family as well. I will try to bump the other ROR as they were both right next to each other.

I hear you but!

I had a freind who was told he needed 1,100.00 work done on his ford tauras. I told him to bring it over and I would take a look and double check the estimate. I have worked on cars for a long time and I can see both sides on this story. If the tires were worn after 11,000 miles there had to be an alignment issue, weather it was ball joints, tie rods or shocks or struts, alos under inflation causes side wall damage and belt seperation. These components are critical when it comes to tire wear. Generally manufacturing defaults are belt seperation or side wall damage. If not replaced or notified what the percautions are at the time of the purchase the store is responsible to document it in there system. Trucks especially are hard on front end parts and are generally expensive to repair. Hauling, pulling heavy trailers, plowing are hard on front end parts and tires. So, were you notified at the time of purchase? and was it explained to you that this was going to happen.
Or did you wait till you replaced the ball joints else where, then blaim it on Tires Plus after the fact, to get free tires.
To rebutt on the crow bar you need to preload the spring and shock to releive presure on the ball joint to check for movement this is a standerd procedure used anywhere.
A couple months ago the new hope store located on winnetka and 36th ave quoted my friend a crap load of money for some front end work a brake job and a alignment lol. His wife was told the car was unsafe, so she called her husband to pick her up. The staff continued to tell her husband that the car needed the following... brakes and rotors front and back... calipers front and back...ball joint RF..outer tie rods (both sides) and a inner tie rod RI.. and ball joints LF,RF.
I (using a crow bar) checked the front end and found one component bad RF tie
rod. I inspected the brakes and measured the rotors and the pads were worn and needed to be replaced but the rotors were fine and still had .095 room to yet be turned out (resurface using a lathe). I replaced the brakes and inspected the calipers and the rears were fine and the fronts also were ok. The total cost of repairs was 125.02.
I was a former employee of this company on and off for 5 years during school and all I have to say is the service was better when Tom G owned it. If anyone was caught selling anything the customer didn't need YOU WERE CRUCIFIED.

Doesn't Sound Likes the Stores I Know

While on staff as an admin assistant at a medium sized organization in Apple Valley, I would regularly take in the vehicles of my superiors. At all Apple Valley and Burnsville Locations, I was treated with respect and courtesy, even when I declined to have work done.

Sorry to hear Glenn's story, but it sounds a might bit exaggerated.

OWNER "wayne" has seletive memory

Hey wayne,do you really believe that crap you write. the tires were bought at your store one year ago;all we wanted you to do was back up what you sell! YOU told us are ball joints were bad and like I said YOU REFUSED to give us tires Unless of course you replaced the balljoints.(650.00).YOU cHarged at my wife screaming GET OUT OF MY STORE,and why? she wanted a other store to look at these balljoints.

MY wife waited in the parking lot (couldnt wait in the store) Your well trained employee drove the truck right at her missing her by INCHS maybe the cigarette smoke was in his eyes! The apple valley tiresplus said "the balljoints were not bad;could go for another year or so they put the tires on ;but to replace them would 125.00.I Did some checking many of the tireplus do not staff properly trained technicians majority of there alignment techs or installers as there called have one day of alignment training that is more of a sells pitch than anything.

they do not have any real form of training to their techs all the classes they offer are usually held by parts warehouses and are mainly sales pitches. And yes the police report states how you and your employee became agressive, abusive when we refused to buy unneeded parts. see you in court!

you silly man thats your defense?

so when you wouldnt sell me the parts I leeped over the counter a 5 4" and 50 years old women; have you ever told the truth in your life? Your one tough cookie.......that story might work in court. Be sure you bring the shorts you crapped in when I leeped on that counter wayne "owner, sorta, somewhat of tiresplus". Holly PS BRING IT ON rOBERT!

Glenn still refuses to answer the ONE question

With only 11K miles on the vehicle, WHY does it need new tires at all?

The answer is still obvious...because it has something WRONG with it.

Wayne's version of events seems more plausible, especially in light of Glenn's latest quote.

"The apple valley tiresplus said "the balljoints were not bad;could go for another year or so they put the tires on ;but to replace them would 125.00."

How EXACTLY did another mechanic know how long the ball joints would last? And what vehicle out there can have two or more ball joints replaced for $125? Finally, since the ball joints would be covered by the manufacturer's warranty, why wouldn't Glenn go to the Dealership when his tires wore out so quickly?

NOTHING about Glenn's story makes sense, and with good reason. It's hard to repeat the same tale twice, when none of it is true.

BTW...the police report will state ANYTHING you tell the cops. If you tell them Martians came down and probed you, the cop will write that down. I would suggest you ignore the police report, as your testimony needs to be an exact duplicate of it. When you go off on a tangent(which you will do as witnessed by your posts), the Judge will toss your claim out.

Good luck though...you'll need it...especially if Wayne prints out copies of this thread and shows the Judge that NOBODY believes you.

common sense

There is not enough time in the day, nor area to write a repsonse here for this nonsense. Simply stated, we showed him very slight play and told him it was not worth replacing at this time. His wife lunged at me, almost over the counter. At that time Glen kicked his own wife out of the store and wanted to do the work anyway. His wife ran at their vehicle when it was being pulled out of the shop, somehow this is almost running her over. After leaving here, he went to another store and got kicked out for being beligerent. After that, believe it or not he went to yet another store and had all the work done that he says he did not need. Then he sued us. Make sense of that.

You contradict yourself

You said your truck is 1 year old.

Why did you buy new tires for a 1 year old vehicle? Were they worn out? If so did you ever question why???

If they really are worn out after 11,000 miles there is something else wrong with the vehicle.

I have had Firestone/Bridgestone tires on all my vehicles for years with no problems with them.

Hope you guys won

Hope you guys won the lawsuit.

highly doubt the technician had any intentions of running your wife over

come on Glenn

I agree with a previous poster that you are overexaggerating a little bit. I highly doubt the technician had any intentions of running your wife over. It is customary to return the keys to the service writer only to ensure that your bill has been payed and you understand the recommendations they had for your vehicle.

Secondly, your wife should have waited in the customer waiting area while her vehicle was being pulled out of the shop, for her own personal safety. (I highly doubt they'd make her go stand in the cold and let YOU stay in the shop and flip out)

My other question is..when you went to the Apple Valley store and they told you your ball joints were fine and replaced your tires, did they check the alignment? If so, was it out? If so, did you have it aligned?

I personally feel that you took the situation a little to far, blew a fuse, causing the management at the store to make you leave (obviously you were throwing a tantrum). I think if you would have stayed calm (even if you didn't think your ball joints were out) and just left and went to another store, or maybe even the dealer if the vehicle was only a year old, and got a second opinion, this wouldn't be such a messy situation...law suits and all, thats bogus Glenn.

ps--I belicve Wayne handled the situation the best he could considering the customers mental state..

tires plus

Glen,I happen to come across your story as i am looking to purchase tires soon. you were treated very poorly and i beleave its time someone show these big corporations that they are not untouchable. I hope you win in court i beleive you will; In the meantime i will shop elsewhere and pass your story on. keep the faith god bless

ROBERT PAY ATTENTION

This is a lawsuit.Your comments and that of your cohorts have nothing to do with tiresplus. I am tired of explaining to you. Your comments about the police shows what disrespect you have for them.

You do not know what happen that day and its pointless to anwser to you. We will have are day in court soon. You can find out when that date is by asking the wonderful people at tiresplus and you can defend them in person. Intill then all you have to say is mindless babble.

glenn

Thanks for the info Glenn

Hello, I have something to add. I wento to local Tires Plus was told I had bad alinement when tires were put on a year ago. Glenn everyone wants to know how they all wore out,I know first hand because I had the same problem with tiresplus and they also blamed it on everything. But I received my money back.Hang in there, and spread the word.

P.S.
I will never use or recommend Tires Plus again.

Amanda

Minneapolis mn.

CALM DOWN all you tire lovin fools

I have everything that happen that day on audio inside the store and video outside (cell phones are amazeing).SO all you employees stop all your fake storys .Fear not the mothership should be here soon to take you all back to planet tire where you all can line up to get probed like you been doing to people here on earth....no wait Robert the all great and powerful tire wizard said he was probed but the cops didnt believe him.I suspect he is the leader of the tire gang defender of all that is evil.And all for free.I think they should at least change the store name .ROB-BERT is much better describes the store,rob for short

PAYED LONG BEFORE COURT MS NO IT ALL

More then your mumma makes in a month! What do you call an 80 year old man that acts like elton john on crack? answer-----a tireplus lawyer. what do you call someone who works for tireplus-----you cant call them they dont make enough to have a phone. that concludes are show for the night;and thank you all for checkin in.

Glenn Lost

Glenn lost in court, and there was no media coverage, and his loyal followers that said they would be there for support, didn't show. I personally know one of the workers at Tires Plus, that is how I know the out come of the case. I will let Glenn tell you all what the judge said and how much money he DIDN'T GET.

reep what you sew.

now that you know my claim is valid,dont play games with me tring to pass the buck to the tire co.Well do you and wayne have anymore tricks up your XXX?You and tireplus know what to do still out 1800 for tires in 1 year.What occurred at the savage store .ITS more then a tire problem Wayne insisted on replaceing balljoints mistake#1 flying into a rage because i wanted to go to another store.Screaming at my wife to get out.mistake#2truck was back out by employee my wife was standing on sidewalk. he then turned the truck off as my wife walked to the truck;he started the truck up and screeched around her. AND THAT IS ONLY WORTH 500 BUCKS IN YOUR BOOK.He has been lieing the whole time to say his own job.I will not stop now!IF wayne keeps doing what he did to me soon that savage store will be out of business. AND soon as families drive by the savage store the kids will say'LOOK MOMMY AND DADDY THERE IS THE STORE WHERE THAT WOMEN ALMOST GOT KILLED' I think Mike the best thing for wayne to do know,is to follow jesie james days in northfield mn. wayne could charge 5.00 a person he could play himself his wife could play like a customer he could jump over the counter screeming the whole time get out of my store;then he could jump in his truck and try to run his wife over. NOW THAT THERE IS FUNNY i DONT CARE WHO YOU ARE.

duuuuuuuuu

Mike(s),& WHOMEVER IS MAY CONCERN,

Glenn directed his rage towards Tires Plus (Savage MN) because they are the ones who sold the tires to him. therefore they are reasonable for what they sell.right??? when his tires went bad,Glenn tried to get new tires .understand so far??? they would not replace the tires. Wayne kicked Glenn's wife out of the store.(rude) because she said she wanted to go elsewhere to look at the so called parts that "needed" to be replaced. no need to repeat the whole story again.

FYI

MIKE BRIDGESTONE A/T ON 1ST SET SAME ON 2ND 50,000 WARRANTY SO NOTHING THERE FOR YOU EITHER. so bait the hook again.

The story changes again...does it ever stay the same?

So now, the corporate office sent you a check, after telling you the store in question is not a corporate store. Uh huh. Never happened. TP Corporate doesn't reimburse anyone for anything that happened at a franchise store. That's why they told you to bother Wayne.

As for trying to sell you things you didn't need, again...uh huh. They said you needed balljoints. You acted like a monkey on crack, and they booted you off the property. The next place you went to told you the same thing. Supposedly, you had the work done there for $125. I'd love to know the year, make, and model of this vehicle that got 4 balljoints replaced for $125. Never happened. You may have gotten one replaced at that price. Balljoints should be replaced in pairs...if you do one on one side, you do both on one side.

Please pick one version of your whimsical tale, and stick with it. I'm still waiting for the PROOF you(and your alter-ego) claim is present. Especially now, with your claim that, according to your own stories, TP Corporate sent you a check a month before you posted(3 months before you sued) for a NON Corporate store, while at the same time telling you they had nothing to do with it(only truthful part of the tale) and you had to sue Wayne(Franchisee). Somewhere along the way, a crackhead got involved(I think he was the one who bought the tires for the vehicle) and a Courtdate was suddenly open less than a week after filing suit. That always happens. In reality, when you file a lawsuit, you get a Courtdate at least a month later. But, somehow you came to the belief TP should reimburse you for $7500(more than is allowed by small claims) when you suffered ZERO injury. Injury refers both to monetary losses, and actual physical damage. The Judge threw you out of his Court, and I am sure you went straight into "Monkey on Crack" mode. I'm sure you impressed everyone in the room.

My head started spinning again with all the twists and turns you put into your storyline. It's "Plan 9" all over again.

Money damages

If we were to believe the first version of Glenn's story, he had a set of tires that wore out after only 1/4 of the warranteed miles(*) and there was nothing wrong with his truck or the way he drives it. So the tires must have been made wrong and a consideration under the warranty was due.

At this point I note that it apparently never occurred to Glenn to go directly to the company that allegedly made the tires wrong -- Bridgestone. His rage remained directed at Tires Plus.

Tire mileage warranties are pro-rated. Since they lasted only 1/4 of rated life, he's out 3/4 of the money he paid for them. Which is probably about $500.00 in this case. After some complaining, a check for $500.00 arrived in Glenn's mailbox.

Any sane person would've cashed that check and been done with it months ago. There was nothing to gain by going to court. Now he may still have the $500.00 but he got "dookie" from everything else.

(*) According to the Bridgestone website, most versions of the Deueller A/T have a 50,000 mile warranty. However, those with "LT" in the model designation have no mileage warranty.

Diplomacy works wonders, so does a solid story

Dearest Glenn,

I am in awe of your ability to bring discredit
to your own claims. I'm sure most everyone has had a bad experiance or two with automotive service. It goes with the territory. Your original story didn't make much sense though. Your follow ups added to the confusion. In the future, it would serve you well to sit down with a calm head before you write. After writing, read the story over to yourself and see if it makes sense. If possible, have someone else read it too. Make sure it's in proper form and expresses your views to the reader. Finally, if you follow up on the story make sure you go back and read your original story so you can account correctly. Do not rely on memory alone as this can lead to your story sounding more like heated revenge fueled by anger with no concern for the truth. Such as........11/23/06...He then turned the truck back on, floored it to the front of the door swerving around my wife missng her by a foot or two............Followed by......................
11/24/06...my wife went to the parking lot were the trucks was being backed out and started to walk toward the truck the employee saw her started the truck and drove towards her all the while she kept telling him to stop and came close to hitting her drove to the front door locking the truck so she still couldnt get in.... followed by.....12/29/06.......
MY wife waited in the parking lot (couldnt wait in the store) Your well trained employee drove the truck right at her missing her by INCHS maybe the cigarette smoke was in his eyes! ....

Glenn, do you see the holes in your story?
It's not credible. Ofcourse all the name calling and bickering while waiting for trial doesn't make you look good either. Bottom line Glenn,, if you want to get attention and entertain people who are blood thirsty and want to read an irate story full of fury,, keep up the good work. You made yourself look like a fool.
However, if you want to get your message out that this place is bad,,,, you need to make yourself look good. You didn't do that

125 for ball joints?

it cost me almost that much for a machine shop to press in and out the bj's and control arm bushings on my 90 nissan sentra, i may have had it done myself for that price( by tp). also i didn't see where the op said that"while we have it apart, we can do it...", so i'm kinda curious as to what they had apart. btw i was a tech (suspension and brake specialist)at a large dodge dealer in the late 90's and the suspension,and brakes, and computers, and etc really s###ked. i liked the look of the ram , but they were pretty much junk. good radios tho-if you had the high dollar infinity.ps never worked for, or been a cust of tires plus( not even sure if they're in st louis)

Dear Robert,

Why you discredit Glenn constantly without really knowing much of the truth is amazing. It must be hard for you to cast your judgments from your computer desk. Your wonderful dedication to Tires Plus is amazing but far off. If and when you do find you that he did receive a check from Tires Plus will that make you realize that you have been wrong all along. Why would any person come to this venue without reason?? I would suggest getting off the computer and perhaps actually going into a Tires Plus and checking out their service instead of bickering with every consumer on here that has a problem.

I think you may be the one with delusions. Glenn was treated unfairly. Tires Plus tried to sell him something he did not need. Glenn and his wife were smart to not just take Wayne's word for what work was needed and that infuriated Wayne. Wayne then through a fit and kicked them out of the store and subsequently almost ran over his wife. I don't care if this store is independently owned or not. Consumers see corporations by their name. If you cannot back up your work and your name and satisfy your customers then eventually you will go out of business.

In closing, you appear to me that you may be off your rocker and one of those people that are content in starting flames. Maybe a nice walk in fresh air will help you be a nicer person.

We are not idiots in Minnesota and don't need you to tell us the laws of Minnesota. Also your obsession with Crack is sad. I would recommend a rehab facility to help you with that problem. It also explains your anger.

behind the desk at tiresplus

lookie what I found and what he has to say about working for them. Just like I said paid to sell parts needed or not. And prey on women and seniors. read it.And he quit because it was the only way to move up the latter.Your company is not going to make it . Not with the people you send to defend on ripoff they are the stranges bunch of morons I have ever conversed with.You SHOULD PAY EMPLOYEES HOURLY so they can live without stealing.AND keep people coming back to your store.Thats just good business. Instead you have goofballs like Robert write stuff outterspace and planet 9 ;more like planet7 uranus. send in the big dog.

One at a time, Amanda

-Why you discredit Glenn constantly without really knowing much of the truth is amazing.

He discredits himself by changing the story every post. Truth is a one way street. Glenn is trying to swerve all over it.

-It must be hard for you to cast your judgments from your computer desk.

Nope...very easy. It's even easier when Glenn refuses to maintain one storyline, and refuses to scan and post the check, or even provide the Court Docket number, so his claims of victory can be verified.

-Your wonderful dedication to Tires Plus is amazing but far off.

What dedication? I hammer on them constantly, provided TP is in the wrong. Glenn has yet to actually convince anyone except himself, and you of that. Michelle is really just Glenn using a nom d' plume.

-If and when you do find you that he did receive a check from Tires Plus will that make you realize that you have been wrong all along.

Yep. Of course, for that to happen, Glenn will need to provide the Court Docket number, or just scan and post the check. He never will, because that would prove he's been living in fantasyland all along.

-Why would any person come to this venue without reason??

I guess they do it because they get their jollies that way. Peter from Pony Alabama had several in here. Lynn from Colorado threw a few in. There's Rosanne from Langford Illinois. The great McNugget caper is a good one. In fact, there are more than 100 "goofy" threads in ROR. As for people like me coming in and pointing out the goofy threads, so what? This site was originated to point to the bad companies. Threads like this one does nothing but show what type of customers are out there. Glenn has done more to help TP's reputation than any of their employees ever could.

-I would suggest getting off the computer and perhaps actually going into a Tires Plus and checking out their service instead of bickering with every consumer on here that has a problem.

Good idea. One problem though...I don't bicker with anyone who has actually been wronged in some way. Glenn was booted out of TP for a reason. He acts like my Mother-In-law...no concept of how to behave in public. Any handwriting expert will tell you what type of person he is, just by looking at the style of writing. Police use them for profiling suspects all the time. If he didn't actually have access to the internet, I'd swear he was a chimpanzee smoking a pipe.

-I think you may be the one with delusions. Glenn was treated unfairly. Tires Plus tried to sell him something he did not need.

And yet, Glenn had the work done at the very next shop he went to. STOP trying to say he didn't need it done. NOBODY repairs something that is not broken.

-Glenn and his wife were smart to not just take Wayne's word for what work was needed and that infuriated Wayne.

No...Glenn made the claim that the work was NEVER needed at all, not just that he didn't want to take Wayne's word for it. Glenn then claims he had perfectly good balljoints replaced because the price was what he considered reasonable. Amazing at best. My hot water heater works perfectly...I think I'll replace it tomorrow. My driveway has no cracks in it. I'll call the concrete guy and have him tear it all up and pour new.

-Wayne then through a fit and kicked them out of the store and subsequently almost ran over his wife.

Nope. Glenn and his wife behaved exactly as I described..."a monkey on crack", and Wayne had had enough of their boorish behaviour. As for his wife being ran over, it never happened. That part of the tale has gone from yards to feet to inches. Pretty soon, Glenn will be claiming "phase technology" allowed the vehicle to drive through his wife.

-I don't care if this store is independently owned or not.

And yet, it matters. Just because you don't care, does not negate it's importance.

-Consumers see corporations by their name. If you cannot back up your work and your name and satisfy your customers then eventually you will go out of business.

Wonderful. Again, Wayne pointed out why the tires wore out, and why there would be no warranty on them. You cannot warranty something that is worn out due to abuse, nor neglect. Bad balljoints ABUSED the tires. Failing to correct the faulty parts is NEGLECT. Warranty is void.

-In closing, you appear to me that you may be off your rocker and one of those people that are content in starting flames. Maybe a nice walk in fresh air will help you be a nicer person.

That could be. When you consider I can go out during the day wearing shorts and a T-Shirt though, it doesn't help your case. I see it's subfreezing in your area today. Perhaps it is you that needs some fresh air. The furnace may be producing too much carbon monoxide.

-We are not idiots in Minnesota and don't need you to tell us the laws of Minnesota.

What law did I try to inform you of? As for the "idiots" part of your sentence, reread Glenn's nutty tale, and retghink your position. Really...do you want to be associated with him?

-Also your obsession with Crack is sad. I would recommend a rehab facility to help you with that problem. It also explains your anger.

My obsession? A dozen other people come in here and pounce on all the missteps in Glenn's stories(multiple since he cannot hold to one), but I am the one he keeps blasting back at. It seems he's obsessed...with me. As for my anger...well, we'll let the VA handle that one.

Give serious consideration about your willingness to side with Glenn. People judge you(every day) by the company you keep. If one in your group behaves like a monkey on crack, then complete strangers will assume everyone in that group does. There's a very good reason why I am offered jobs in various states, even though I own my own business. My reputation preceeds me. There's a reason my Mother-In-Law can't pay anyone to be near her...her reputation preceeds her too. And Glenn could very well be her twin.

Anger only get's you in trouble

Glenn,

No, I'm not writing a book. Only offering you some advice on how to get people to think you are serious and on the level. People, including police officers, judges, lawyers, juries are not inclined to believe someone who is irate and incoherant. You have been both throughout this ordeal. You know Glenn, I don't doubt that you might have been on the wrong end of a raw deal. But the details of the events that followed sound
more like your imagination working towards the revenge you seek since the outcome didn't work in your favor.

Amanda,

What's the reason for your anger?

Anyone else having difficulty figuring this one out?

"lookie what I found and what he has to say about working for them. Just like I said paid to sell parts needed or not. And prey on women and seniors. read it.And he quit because it was the only way to move up the latter.Your company is not going to make it . Not with the people you send to defend on ripoff they are the stranges bunch of morons I have ever conversed with.You SHOULD PAY EMPLOYEES HOURLY so they can live without stealing.AND keep people coming back to your store.Thats just good business. Instead you have goofballs like Robert write stuff outterspace and planet 9 ;more like planet7 uranus. send in the big dog."

HOLY MOLY!!! Put down that pipe Glenn!

BTW, "Plan 9 From Outerspace" was a movie. Am I the only one who got the reference?

It was Bela Lugosi's last film, and he died before it even began filming. The producers and writers never explained why the lead actor was missing from the entire movie. In fact, it relates directly to your story. Just like yours, "Plan 9 from Outerspace" made absolutely no sense either. Also like yours, the plotline kept changing, until it was just a jumbled up mess.

It was voted "Worst Movie Ever Made". I'll even throw you a bone and include a few treats:
Lessons I Learned From This Movie:

Funerals take place at 4:00 am.

Spacecraft developed by advanced aliens are unable to fly without wobbling.

Outer space is awful darn windy.

Pilots enter cars on the wrong side then just slide over.

Fat men rising from their grave cast a shadow that looks like Darth Vader.

There are "atmospheric conditions" in outer space.

Nobody ever just runs from the amazingly slow but indestructable undead.

Sunlight can explode and destroy the universe.

Revolvers use clips.

Uh huh. When those of you who have seen this abomination on celulose get done crying from the laughter(the movie reference is spot on), tell me how Glenn's story is any different. Okay, maybe there are no space aliens, but the way the story develops is just perfect.

I BRING UP 05 EX EMPLOYEE

and Robert goes after him. You are a real winner. OK robert what kinda work do you do?You could have owned 12 tiresplus I think you are full of bull,your rants and ravings this morn. have no wit whatsoever.Out witted you so bad over the last few months,Are you trained monkey hooked on booze and crack is that why you are angry all the time?SHOW US YOUR TRUE COLORS i THING YOU ARE A PHONEY.

DEFENDER OF ALL THAT IS EVIL; ROBTARD

Your looseing it. Cant even be original. Why are you under the assumption the judge was a man?And I dont know what mountain you came off of; but people her in minnesota are not "thrown out of court rooms",as if it was a sat. nite at a ho-down.And if your head keeps spinning maybe your meds need to be changed.To all the people that say I dont make sence I will quote "PLAN 9"YOU ARE VERY STRANGE PEOPLE and Justin are you writeing a book? leave that chapter out later loosers

Now the check is from Bridgestone?

As I pointed out before, running the numbers will show that you are actually money ahead with that $500.00 instead of having them honor the warranty. And unlike having them honor the warranty, you also don't have to buy your next tires from TP or buy Bridgestones if you don't want to.

please allow me to introduce myself

My name is consumer. I have wrote every post signed glenn. I have lived in minnesota for 25 years. I am a women and run my own company. I have six brothers that also have companys of their own. We are all in the service business. We would not stay in business if we did not have repeat business.

The subject is tires bridgestone dueler a/t that did not come close to making a 50,000 mile warranty. So bridgestone/firestone having had problems like this simply threw a 500.00 check at us without signing any release we were free to sue the savage store to get back the money that we spent a year ago on mis made tires.

How anyone can say that we are not telling the truth about what happened that day in savage is not reading it with a open mind the story may change in anger but it happened like I said.IT was me in that parking lot that day an a mad 20 year old behind the wheel of my truck nobody eles saw what happened.OK.

Now good OLD robert You could not even tell the diffence between a man or women so that discredits your handwriting expertise .You have been on my post 15 times you sir have the obsession with me. Just a flammer with delusions. A joke is funny one time (crackhead)you use everything I say over and over.

For those who still think I am out no money I will repeat for the 100 time the tires I paid 750.00 one year ago wore out before the warranty. Now I know some of you are made to post here and change the subject ;The facts remain the same.

They ask wayne if he gave us a written estiment for the work we needed done he said yes but the date on the paper was made 10 days after it happened! He knows what he did that day and he still .When the judge ask why the date is differnt he said"I dont know for my own records I guess" the judge thought that was funny A women judge. HE still run a shady business to this day. I feel sorry for you robert you really need help your a rebel without a clue

That was the best one yet, Glenn!!!!

You not only killed off the last shred of credibility you might have had with anyone foolish enough to believe you, but you also took out the ONLY two others who sided with you...Amanda, and Michelle.

They BOTH claimed to know you personally, and talked to you, and BOTH referred to you as "he", and "him". HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!!!

You're the best.

Now, in this latest episode of "As the Stomach Turns", you claim to be a group of females..."women" as you put it.

You are truly the best.

Plan 9 From Outerspace has been surpassed...by Glenn.

Jack of all trades master of none

Robert the hand writing expert,your just a wry old man (twist the facts and distorts). A story someone that works at repair shop can relate to.

Joe saved to buy some tools as he needed them for his job. As time went by he noticed they were wearing out and, well just werent holding up like the manager had promised. So Joe returns to the store and not thinking there would a problem afte all he he paid extra for a warrant. As luck would have it the same man will call wayne was there.Wayne ask to see the toolbox he had them in. 'Oh Joe here is your problem te hinges on this toolbox are not in align;causeing early failure of the tools." Well Joe got to thinking this is the same man that told me these were the best and he paid alot for them."wayne says I think I can make you a deal for 650.00 more I can sell you the same tools again and for 100.00 I can sell you the right toolbox. Joe said no deal I will take my business elsewhere knowing he had been cheated; and many more before him and many after him.Joe will tell everyone he knows and meets,and they will tell someone ect.ect. wHATS 80 YEARS OLD and writes,and he thinks he is always right obsessed with me,and always on crack ROTART

Hey, Robert, relax!!

I had bought a set of Pirellis for our '91 Camry at the Cincinnati Sam's c1992, and those tires wore rather fast, but they also wore perfectly uniformly. Since they would have NEVER have reached their warranteed milage, I returned to Sam's and politely asked about the apparently high wear rate. Sam's gave us a no-fuss, no-muss net credit based on the remaining milage not yet used as a % of the warranteed milage toward a new set of Michelins. We have used Michelins ever since.

We took delivery on the '07 Camry V6 LE with VSC on 19 Jan '07, and we now have 650 miles on it. This is one smooooth, quiet, and *very* quick family sedan. Most of the time we cannot hear the engine, nor do we feel that 6-speed auto shifting. There is a hilly section of I85 about 7 miles away from our house, and I tried the cruise control on it... this Camry sailed up and down those hills on cruise control without even changing engine RPM. The '91 L4 Camry would always downshift at the start of a climb and upshift at the crest- this was very annoying. The V6 is definately worth having since it gets 1 mpg less than the L4 Camry gets.

My big question, Robert, is that Toyota does NOT specify a transmission oil and filter change in the maintanence log even after 120,000 miles. The coolant is replaced at 100,000 miles... and the iridium sparkplugs are rated for replacement at 120,000 miles.... this all seems unreal. Toyota just requires the owner to rotate the tires and change engine oil and filter every 5000 miles....

wayne you need to own up

Everyone knows what kind of business you are running in Savage. Your credibility is what keeps you in business and without it, you can not expect to stay in one location very long.I notice the Apple Valley store and Burnsville have more customers. By the way wayne brad in burnsville is a classier guy then you because when the judge asked him what i did in his store he just said he talked to the customers and he never lied like you did. You have been lieing the whole time. I would like you to be a stand up guy and tell the truth that you know what i said is the truth. The ball is in your court. All of my rebuttals will be against your store and you. from this point on! robtard an all of his cohorts don't bother me in the least. they can right all they want. you know how to end this wayne.

Look up the word Misogynist and that will explain Robert

First off the response you gave to me it is clear to me that you have obvious "mommy issues" which in turn makes sense you come on here and take out your frustrations on innocent people and bring up off task subjects to start fights. Why does anyone care that you don't like your mother in law and how does that have anything to do with Tires Plus??

It is obvious that GLENN and his WIFE are together in this since they were both TOGETHER when this incident happened.

Whom I chose to keep company with in none of your business and I would suggest therapy for your bizarre behavior. I thought maybe you were just a Tires Plus employee at first but all anyone has to do is go to Google and put in " Robert Jacksonville Fl rip off" and they will see you do this to many people all across the board.

I guess you have to get your kicks one way or another. As I advised earlier, your mother-in law issues are border-line scary and is no excuse to be a bully. Prozac might be your ticket

In other words, Glenn's case was dismissed.

Let's have it Glenn. Scan and post your Judgement against them.

You got none.

Now, the story is Tires Plus paid(notice how it's spelled?) you off before the trial. Sure. They paid you off just so the frivolous case would not be heard. Obviously they'll pay you rather than have the Judge toss out your case. That's also why people who were there say the Judge told you something. Was it "stop wasting the Courts time with your frivolous lawsuits"? Companies only make settlements before trial if there is even the slightest chance of losing. They had nothing to fear with yours.

If you want to pretend they paid you off, scan and post the payoff check.

You got nothing.

You suffered no injury of any type, and having the work done by another shop eliminated your argument the work was not needed. Nobody believes you had perfectly good parts replaced. Your cheering section in this thread is just you under other names. Your lack of grammar, and spelling did you in. The mere fact that your story changes from one moment to the next, helps everyone except you.

Start scanning.

something to add

all of you tires plus employees are so funny you all have your wife's or girlfriends type for you is that because you never completed grade school and have no clue how to type? wayne's case was thrown out because it was ridiculous. theres not enough hours in he day for this right wayne? is that because your always in court? glenn finds humor in all of your replies so keep writing.he just makes you all look dumb.

Paid long before court?

Glen, you have now completely lost all credibility. You posted on January 24th at 3:38PM Western Time that your court date was January 26th. Now you claim that you were "paid long before court"? What, in the one day between posting the court date and the court date itself? You got nothing, your case was tossed according to the responder, no press came and all of your "supporters" didn't show either.

CREDIBILITY? AND TIRESPLUS in the same story

Surely you jest Today I will cash the big check that I got in Oct. from FLA.And go to the store and if anyone takes to long in line in front I am going to scream GET OUT OF THE STORE and when I am in the parking lot I will try to run over old people. No I dont work for tiresplus but would be good at it. Court is more then money. Think realllll hard and maybe the answer will come to you. How many tiresplus employees does it take to loosen a lugnut? ----not sure they dont know what a lugnut is. Have a nice day and remember sell those parts even if it kills someone.

Glenn hang your head and admit your faults

Shame on you Glenn for all of your name calling and lies. You didn't recieve any money from Savage Tires Plus and your other case was dropped that you filed against the other Tires Plus store. My husband makes plenty of money and we live nicely with our three children. He is a hard worker, great husband, involved father, along with every other Tires Plus worker. Admit you lost and hang your head for all the slandering you have done to Tires Plus and its workers.

Sincerely Rachel
(I married a mechanic and I am proud of that)

Check yourself

Glenn and I are not the same person. I would suggest that before you cast judgment about trivial off task subjects such as grammar, that you check your own writing before posting.

If there is a Tires Plus Representative out there reading this, please speak up.

Keep posting people. Bad or good you are only helping raise awareness and thus helping Glenn and his wife. Helping all consumers!

Tires Plus is the issue. Spelling and grammar is not. Those on here bashing see the definition below.

In Internet terminology, a troll is a person who enters an established community such as an on-line discussion forum and intentionally tries to cause disruption, often in the form of posting messages that are inflammatory, insulting, incorrect, inaccurate, absurd, or off-topic, with the intent of provoking a reaction from others.

Trolls can also be existing members of such a community that rarely post and often contribute no useful information to the thread, but instead make argumentative posts in an attempt to discredit another person, more often than not based on what they thought was said rather than what was actually said by the other person, concentrating almost exclusively on facts irrelevant to the point of the conversation, with the intent of provoking a reaction from others.

Boycott

The real issue is the horrible service received by Glenn and his wife by the Tires Plus in Savage. Consumers need to be protected and warned about the store. They need to know if there is a problem at the savage Tires Plus that Tires Plus will not stand behind it and will pass it off as an Independent store.

I will continue to forward this site and provide word of mouth of how horrible Tires Plus in Savage really is. Until Glenn and his wife state publicy that this has been satisfied I will do my part as a consumer and help spread the word. It is not fair to the customers for past, present and future to not be warned by the service that Glenn and his wife have received.

Ask yourself this? What if it was your wife or daughter, grandmother that was almost run over? Would you let it drop? What if you spent your hard earned money on crappy tires that could possibly caused an accident and hurt someone? Would you want justice? An apology? Think about it.

Boycott Savage Tires Plus. Write to Tires plus and ask them what their stand is on honoring warranties? I have wrote several times and guess what, NOT ONE RESPONSE. Speaks for itself.

Keep this going Glenn and believe me, this is helping far greater then you know.

MIKE WHY DON'T YOU TELL US WHO YOU ARE

We have not posted because nobody could.Listen and listen good! If you and your cohorts accuse us of lying one more time I will sue you for distress. Check TIRES PLUS WHEEL WORKS clear water fla. If you are anybody at all in the tires plus corp. you can call and find out for your self.I am sick of you calling us liars. I already stated NOBODY won in court.If you think you can bully us over the net to stop writing how we were treated at the savage store you are sadly mistaken.Everything that I have said is true.Wayne told us he was the owner of the savage store and we found out the owner is Scott Mcphee.And the shakopee store.I am tired of getting the run around by all of you.Wayne why wont you settle this matter?

I left a message with scott today. If I don't hear from scott or wayne I will take this matter to a higher up person in the corp. Anybody who have been ripped off by tires plus please post on here if you would like to join us to see that all tires plus start standing behind what they sell like all other business. All the intimidation by you mike whoever you are can stop.

Amanda, you should quit while you are behind

I don't care who you choose to hang out with. Your credibility was flamed by the "women" you claimed was a man. Glenn says they are a group of females. Exactly who would be the wife in their relationship? You tell me.

BTW, I only point out the inconsistencies in people's tales, and Glenn's was a great load of rubbish.

Nothing about it made any sense, from having balljoints replaced that were perfectly good, to the fact the story changed in each subsequent posting.

If that's the sort you choose to be seen with, have at it. Me? I'll be seen with people who have the sense to not make up a story so rift with falsehoods as to make the head spin.

Thomas...the numbers are correct

The mileages you are using are for normal service. In reality, everyone should use the schedules for severe service. This would pretty much cut the mileages in half for all maintenace items.

And Glenn, I blasted you because you are the "women" who made up this whimsical tale. Therefore, I am not obsessed with you. You posted nonsense from the beginning, and just kept digging your hole deeper with each subsequent posting.

On the other hand, you blasted back at me no matter who wrote what. It didn't matter that I didn't write something, you attempted to hammer me for it. Granted, the poor attempts at spelling and grammar made the missives hard to read, but the jist of each was clear.

I notice your postings recently have gotten better. I'll just assume one of the other females in your group is doing the typing now. Either that, or your meds arrived.

Getting back to the issue

With all the bickering going on here, let's not lose sight of the fact that the reason why this posters claims have been questioned is due to the fact that his (her?) story changes every time something is pointed out to them. All Glenn needs to do is provide me with either the docket number of his case, the municipality it was heard in, or some other proof that his claims are real (ie. the contact information on your check from tires plus, or is it Bridgestone now, I get lost in your lies) and this whole situation will be resolved and Glen will have proven himself to not be posting lies.

Again, Glenn, be advised, that you can leave yourself open to liability for libel for posting untruths to a public forum causing a business loss of income. There are two people here who have already said based on your report they will not go to this tires Plus store.

I've been waiting for weeks, but of course you never will post it because you claim "your lawyer" told you not to. Can I have your lawyers contact information then? This way I can contact them directly and ask for this information (which is considered PUBLIC by the way)

Why Glenn Why?

Why are you still after Scott and Wayne? If you accepted that check from Tires Plus or Bridgestone, I'm not sure from who now, the matter is settled as far as we know. Yet today here you are still bothering them.

Speaking of Robert the hand-writing expert, if you look at your style of typing, both Amanda and yourself do not put spaces after commas or periods at the end of sentences. This would seem to indicate that both of you have similar typing styles. Almost as if the same person were posting under two different names. Not too mention that both of you have a terrible fondness for misspelling your words.

If I am mistaken, I apologize. If not, I'm sure you still will not notice where our skepticism comes from. That and lack of proof of any judgement, docket number of possible court hearing or a copy of the check you received as part of your "settlement."

Glenn, I have answered you previously

Glenn, on Feb 9th, I stated

"Ok Glenn, one more time. I do not have anything to do with Tires Plus, nor would I ever buy low end crap tires from a place like you did. "

"I post on Rip Off report all the time, trying to help people get to the bottom of whatever it is they are posting about. "

The fact that you believe my questioning you and alerting you to the fact that you are opening yourself up to to a libel case is "intimidation" is another deflection of my request for the information I asked for.

Now...as for your post...

I stand by my comments. In fact, I'm more concrete in my beliefs. now. You are claiming to have received a check from Bridgestone in your posting on 2/12/2007. There is no way Bridgestone would ever issue a check without an investigation, which takes time, and based upon the fact that Tires Plus suggested the wear was due to part wear as opposed to tire wear and the fact that you did indeed have admitted these parts WERE fixed at another shop would have Bridgestone jumping for joy and you without a check.

In addition, I am confused as to why you are still waiting for an answer from Wayne or Scott. You've been reimbursed by Bridgestone and your case in court was dismissed according to you. Why do you still feel they owe you anything?

As for Amanda, if this posting is indeed valid, than of course people should be warned and this report forwarded, etc. However, I find it difficult to believe based on the following:

1. When his claims questioned by more than one person with mechanical knowledge, he automatically jumped to the conclusion that we all MUST work for Tires Plus.

2. His claim of receiving a check was not only not included in his first posting (even though he claims it was received PRIOR to that date) but would mean that Bridgestone was informed of the issue, did some sort of investigation, cut him a check and got it to him in the few weeks between 10/5 (when he claims to have purchased tires) and 11/23 (when he posted). Now, I ask you, do you honestly think ANY major corporation moves that quickly?

3. You claim the real issue is the "poor service", when in fact, that is NOT the real issue. Glenns issue was due to unneeded repairs suggested by Tires Plus (although he got the repairs done somewhere else later) and the fact that they "tried to run his wife over". I don't know if they did this or not, but without evidence, theres no proof and no case.

While I have no doubt that Glenn had a problem with Tires Plus, I doubt the veracity of the rest of his claims.

REALLY SICK OF ALL YOU

Tiresplus wheelworks draw on the bank of america wichta falls, tx.2021 Sunnydale Blvd. Clearwater fl.date 10/16/06 check # The phone number is Morgan tire and Auto fla.

Why you find it hard to believe I can not understand; they are a bunch of screw ups. Its a bitch that you will talk to. That is the last time I will write about that check. So today because of the way all you are making lite of this ; I will appeal the court case and take it to district court. I have had enough of your crap.I will not play your game anymore. As for Robert you never answer any questions you are asked so i wont answer you.

I am sick of repeating myself. It is pretty clear that tires plus does not care about there name with them its just taking your money because they keep getting away with it. Abuse that my wife and I recived that day if I can help it I will make sure it does not happen to anyone else. Will the real owner of the savage store please step up.

In addition to the above...(To Glen and Amanda)

Hey Glenn, since I know you won't respond to my request for information (I guess it's "Top Secret") regarding your dismissed case, I beg you to answer these questions to help us in assisting you with your issue.

1. What was the basis of fact in your court case. What did you file the case for? What was your financial loss? Was it civil or criminal?

2. If Bridgestone did indeed send you a check for $500 to replace the bad tires you claim they manufactured, why did you still have the originals? I spoke with Bridgestone who told me that they would never simply cut a check. The process is for you to file a formal complaint with them, they would then order independent testing on both your car and the tires to see if it was due to manufacturing or mechanical issues. These would be filed and if approved, you could have a replacement set or the present day value PRORATED for mileage. And they said it usually takes 6 months or more to get that, not 3-6 weeks.

3. If your repairs were "uneeded" why did you choose to have them done somewhere else?

4. If you've received reimbursement from Bridgestone as you claim, what do you want from Wayne or Scott? Your court case was dismissed agains them wasn't it? If so, than what you are doing is not only opening yourself to a libel case by posting possible untruths here, but could also be construed as harrassment.

5. Why do you refuse to provide any validation to your claims? You have made very serious allegations (fraud, attempted murder/assault, conspiracy between two stores, poor manufacturing by Bridgestone, etc) and have yet to provide ANY shred of proof of your claims. Why? You claim your lawyer told you not to, but since court records are public information, I don't understand why they would tell you that.

As for Amanda, thank you for the definition of a troll. However, you missed one main point about trolls. They post specifically to anger or bother others. We aren't doing that. Glenn posted his claim here which is a public forum used to get assistance with resolving a problem from the other posters as well as informing people about rip-offs. Nobody here is posting simply to enrage, we were simply questioning the veracity of his claims, which when you read all of his claims in order, you can see the holes and changes in the story. His refusal to provide ANY proof is proof to ME that his claims are either completely untrue or greatly exaggerated.

BOYCOTT TIREPLUS SAVAGE!

1.You are a moron....2. you write without reading 3.who the HELL do you think you are.4. those are not questions those are statements.5.why do you number everything?6.nobody is here to please you.7.worry about yourself not me.8.mike is not your real name. #9.Savage tires plus is not a safe place to bring your wife and kids.#10. reason why if you read my post,#11.do not ask for a second opinion.#12 they will thow your wife and chrildren out of the store if you do. my wife was almost killed there because she asked for a second opinion and was thowen out into the parking lot and almost ran over.#13. Mike the moron and robtard are the same people because they are both misogynist( a person that hates women) #14.you call eveyone that writes for me a woman.and the same person.#15 thats it for this morning please buy your tires elsewhere.

BOYCOTT SAVAGE TIRSPLUS

This is for all you money grubbing tire corp. and 'Mike'one in the same 1.If you must go to a tiresplus keep a close eye on you car at all times.2.Never take your wife or kids.3.If you are a women alone dont go there.4.Do not buy a warranty they have none.5.Do not tell them you are getting another estiment, if you do be prepared to run and dodge your own car.6.If you dare tell everyone of your mistreatment they will try to sue you for slander.6.As for you Mike I have numbered all of this for you because you cant read anything without numbers, you must be busy counting your money at the same time :because you are one messed up person. I think we will call you MR. MAGOO.

Bridgestone Adjustment policy

Since we now have a discussion on how the tires would be adjusted out, let me help. First if you called Bridgestone first they would ask you to visit a Bridgestone authorized dealer. They only time they would ask to have the tires shipped to them is if the tires have been accused of failing and caused either vehicular or personal damage.

All mileage warranties are handle at store level thru the POS System at a prorated price. At no time would Bridgestone "cut a check " for a tire adjustment. If the store feels the tires warrant adjustment they do it a prorated basis. keeping the old tires until a Bridgestone technician visits the store and gives the store credit for any loss between the adjustment price and store cost. Also At no time would Bridgestone ask a independent shop to conduct test on your car.

MR.MAGOO AND ROBTARD TOO.

You are trolls just like the lady said.Either that or a couple of girley men.When you buy ;lets say a t.v. 2 months later it goes out. DO YOU GET YOUR MONEY BACK?Or do you get it prorated for watching it? Not you; you except the fact and buy another one because YOU are a panty waste.When someone calls you the looser that you are do you call your mommy?ON to another site to pis someone off?You both have called us unfounded names, laughed at what happened.Now that you know I WAS TELLING THE TRUTH the whole time its time for you to pretend your something your not, on to someone eles site. I bet you both are divorced and spend alot of 'alone'time with your PC. I hope to see you both on ripoff when someone trys to run your wife,daughter,son,mother.As time went on I saw you do not even read the post just start right in like the trolls you are. Karma will get you 2 flats at rush hour. see ya sissys

PLEASE PAY CLOSE ATTENTION

The check came from TIRESPLUS which I have posted at least 100 times! i CAN NOT POST CHECK I AM NOT ALLOWED TO; GET IT.Iposted the date the bank and where it came from. so get over it YOU need to read.ARE YOU WRITING A BOOK!They thought it was important enough to send something right away.So you see my case was not a joke,they beleive because of past dealing with Wayne and savage tiresplus,at least you now beleive my wife could have been killed that day.What is the problem with you not accepting that we received a check.If you cant find out on your own you will just have to leave it .Your just useing it as a excuse to see if someone out there can sue us.Well I signed NO release.

ITS getting real old. CALL TIRESPLUS IN FLA. CORP. morgan tire and auto.Do not ask again maybe you could hire a p.I to trase it if it means that much.And John ;your not worth my time

Once again

Once again I have posted a clear concise post requesting information to try and help Glenn with his issue he is having. Once again, Glenn has posted a near unreadable post claiming I work for Tires Plus (I don't, I work for a financial company in NYC), repeating his claims against Tires Plus (without any shred of proof), calling me names which don't even make sense, and once again claiming I am not who I am.

And as for Rob and I being the same person, no we aren't. I have no idea who "Rob" is. My name is Mike Lordi and I live in NJ and work on NYC. I have posted on Rip Off Report for a long time and on many different types of reports. Here are a couple

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff183602.htm
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff234746.htm

And here's one with a response from me from January LAST YEAR.

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff234746.htm

No Glenn, we are not the same person, simply two people who don't believe your story completely. I believe that your tires wore quickly, and I believe you went there and they told you it was due to a problem with your truck. I'll even go so far as to say I might believe you about them almost running into your wife. However, everything after that I just don't believe and your refusal to provide any documented proof to back up your libelous claims seals it for me. Your refusal to provide any information about your case so I can look it up on WestLaw, your claims that tires plus, oh, wait you changed it to Bridgestone now, sent you a check without even LOOKING at your tires (and in 3 weeks too, impressive) makes you look more and more unbelievable. As for why we haven't posted lately, Rip Off Report has been sporadically unavailable for the last few weeks.

Give it up Mike...

You can put a fork in this one- it's done.

There is no real issue here anymore. "Glenn"'s story has changed so much, and has so many holes in it, that there is nothing of any merit left to it. Because of these falsehoods, changes, and inconsistancies, there is now no way to tell what part (if any) of his/her post is true.

These lies and inconsistancies have been pointed out to "Glenn" numerous times. He/she refuses to acknowledge them. In fact, his/her primary response is to insult other posters and call them names. His/her aim is solely to provoke other posters here.

It is obvious that "Glenn" gets off on the debate itself, not the content of it. It's attention "Glenn" seeks, and that's all.

It matters not to "Glenn" what you post. Your points may be well expressed and sound in logic, but they are irrelevent to "Glenn". He/she just likes to argue.

It's best to just leave this one alone. After a short while it will just go away.

Spin Spin Spin

Glenn,

Perhaps in making things up you forgot that people can read your stories....here's your contradictions:

Now you say:

The check came from TIRESPLUS which I have posted at least 100 times!

Yet on 2/9/2007 you wrote:

The subject is tires bridgestone dueler a/t that did not come close to making a 50,000 mile warranty. So bridgestone/firestone having had problems like this simply threw a 500.00 check at us without signing any release we were free to sue the savage store to get back the money that we spent a year ago on mis made tires.

I'd chalk that up to a typo except for the fact that you say bridgestone twice.

Also, in my last posts, I accepted that your "lawyer" told you not to post the check, and asked for the docket number of your case which you claim was heard and ruled on by a sitting judge so I could look it up on WestLaw which would give a summary of your case and the summary judgement.

This coupled with the fact that you claim Bridgestone just sent you a check THE SAME MONTH YOU WENT TO THE STORE (from your post on Feb 2..."Surely you jest Today I will cash the big check that I got in Oct. from FLA.") make me disbelieve your claim of a payout from Bridgestone.

No wonder your case was dismissed, if I ever cross examined you, you'd not only have lost, I'd probably get a judgement against YOU

Blah Blah Blah

Mike--
Please say something useful. You keep repeating the same thing over and over. I know it may be hard for your little brain to comprehend but they received a check. That is not to hard to figure it out. They don't need to post anything to satisfy you. If you need to sleep at night and know that outcome of this check then call the corporate office. I highly doubt they will provide you with such personal info but go ahead and give it a try.

Glenn

Let's starve the trolls...

Tires Plus Sucks.
Boycott Savage Tires Plus.

CHECK THIS OUT

Tires Plus Wheel Works, Bank Of America, Wichta falls, TX. I guess this must be the imaginary check I recieved from Clearwater. Nevertheless, What is important to me is not the winning of money but to let as many people know about your unethical practice as possible and as it turns out......I WIN! Since you are so interested in what the judge "whispered" to me.....It went a little like this....."how do you hide money from a Tires Plus Employee.....??? Hide it in thier workboots!! Thank you all for coming and again thanks for making this the number 1 story on tiresplus google search via ripoff report.

HA-HA ROBTARD A NEW ONE IN YOUR STATE

Will it be you or jon or make up names?Better watch what you say to this one he may live close to you.Go get him mr. no it all

Matt breckenridge mn.

Looks like there more problems with tiresplus ripoff Maybe you should write them and tell how good you really are comment on how he did not get taken for his money too. You guy are real funny looks like every state to me. You guys better start paying people back or change your name; I did suggest ROB or tires minus.

robert jon marc and all the rest of you

Are you speechless for the frist time in your lives? Or have you conceded and that your not very good at this anymore?I see you went right after the women with the tow ripoff you like to try to scare women.What about the new tiresplus in fla.your too affaid of me? I think you ran out of bullcrap;Ithink I could do a better job then all of you

Most Entertaining Thread EVER

Thanks to everyone who has posted on this thread-it is one of the most strangely entertaining flame wars I have ever had the misfortune to read. Kind of like The Dukes of Hazzard, combined with "pro" wrestling, The People's Court, and Jerry Springer, all cobbled together with a ball (joint) peen hammer. The incoherence of it all "boggles one". I truly felt brain cells dying off as I read it, at an even faster rate than normal for living in the Land of the Hanging Chad.

That said, I have had tons of scam pitches for unecessary services at many automotive shops, including Tires Plus. I went in for the $99 four-wheel brake special once, and they wanted >$500 for new drums, calipers, rotors and the asphalt-cobalt ratio. This was after I told them we were selling the car soon and needed only the minimum. I left my wife alone to wait for the vehicle, and that's when they pounced. She called me and I returned immediately and demanded that they take it off the lift and do none of the work. They ended up doing almost ALL the work for $200. Yeah.

The trick is to never deal with strangers- find a good honest mechanic (yeah- where?) and pay them a LOT to take care of you. Last Friday one of usual shops wanted $40 to put NITROGEN in my tires (they don't deflate as fast). It's always something.

I have had several honest shops tell me my brakes were fine and didn't need any work and charge me $0. Or tell me I needed a new air filter and could get it cheaper at a parts store and show me how to put it in myself. But the rip-off artists are always thinking up new ways to scam you.

Again folks, this thread was fantastic. I was visualizing many of you lunging across sales counters at each other, or running each other over with a '72 Olds Cutlass V8. This site is FUN!!!

the story keeps on going

Come to think of it,rob and Leticia sound alike so they must be the same person.right Glenn? ever since you proved that you recived a check rob quit writing you. Maybe one of his tires plus employees ran him over.HAHAHAHA!

A scary thought.

This report looks eerily like Todd has surfaced in Minnesota and changed his name to Glenn.

Actually Marc

If it were Todd, he would be bringing down fire and brimstone!! I haven't see the words "God" or Christian" from Glenn, so I would assume we just have another Todd/Charles on our hands.

What a headache it is trying to follow this...

As entertaining as this thread has been, I believe I have to stop trying to follow it. It's just too difficult and confusing.

If the events that Glenn originaly described occurred, then I would have to say "thank you" for his post(s) on that Tires Plus location.

However, like I said, this has been a diffucult thread to follow. Glenn's "style" of writing is sometimes difficult to interpret, and I don't just mean the name calling and insults. In addition, the way the events are described lends to much confusion. Even if we move away from issues such as the tires and why or if they needed replacing under warranty, the behavior of the employees, or the ball joints and why they were replaced when they (allegedly) didn't need to be, the remaining inconsistancies raise too many questions.

The latest being Glenn's claim to have recieved a check last October (even though he made his original post 11/23/2006- a month later), yet said he is taking them to court. For what, MORE money? If that's the case I guess it didn't work because he cashed the check after the supposed court date. Why wasn't this check mentioned before? Why leave it out? What else has been left out?

In addition Glenn first claims this check came from FLA, then it's from Texas...

*sigh* I give up.

No Michelle, I haven't left

I have made numerous attempts at posting since Glenn's latest incantation of his whimsical tale.

Now, please post the PROOF you refer to, of Glenn and his amzing check. You know...the one from two different states, and recieved 1 month prior to posting originally, and 3 months prior to going to Court.

Please post this PROOF you speak of. And Glenn...scan and post the check.

You can't. You never got one. You'd have cashed a 39 cent check in order to buy a stamp. The odds of you holding a check for some fictitious legal claim is NIL.

Scan the check and post it. After that, post the PROOF of winning.

One more thing. I take no umbrage in being compared to the writing style of Leticia. She can spell correctly, and uses proper grammar. You and your alter-ego should try it sometime.

JOHN (sigh) WHY O WHY CANT YOU READ

tHERE ARE NO INCONSISTANCIES in this thread.When you and your coworkers write then it becomes difficult. I got a check from TIRESPLUS wheel works 2021 sunnydale blvd.clearwater fla.33765 draw on the bank of america wichta falls tx.When we wrote the what happen it was very clear Nothing that I Wrote allegedly hapened it did happen.iT Is you that made it difficult and confusing.What occurred at the savage store was behavior that is not acceptable. you can interpret it any way you would like.So if you cant interpret my style of writeing you should stop reading it.If you think there statements are truthful;Then you are one sandwich short of a picnic oh yea GOD BLESS YOU.

Michelle, why are you so convinced that I am Robert?

I am not. I wish that I was right now because it's freezing here in NY. I would much rather be in Florida.

but keep telling yourself that just because 2 different people can actually write coherent sentences in the same post that they must be the same person.

Notice I'm one of the only people not accuse you and Glenn of being the same person and your lack of writing skills are about the same as well.

Thought I would check in...

I thought I would check back in and see how things are going for Glenn and his family. I see the corporate pigs are still poking him to cause a stir. I am so sad that there is so many people that get ripped off by greedy corporate big wigs that could care less about the actual cost something like this could have. Has anyone actually thought about TIRES PLUS not honoring the warranty of tires until they are at a dangerously low thread?? Would you like to be on the same road with a vehicle that is "backed by Tires Plus"?

I am thankful that there is a venue such as this for consumers to voice their experiences so we can all band together and put places like this out of business.

Glenn, you have always seemed sincere and truthful and don't worry about the negative feedback or name calling. It just proves that they express themselves on here like they back their work up. (like crap)

P.S. Your story reads pretty easily for me. You spent money and time at Tires Plus. You asked them to honor your warranty, they tried to scam you. Pretty simple.

lol...is this ever going to end?

This is almost the longest thread I have ever seen on here. What's worse is you can only understand about half of the rebuttles. The rest are just jibberish.

I agree with John..what a headache. I cannot even follow who is on Glenns side and who isn't. And why does everyone always think that Robert is either working for the company mentioned, or now he posts as different people as well?

Michelle's post confuse me..are two people posting? First I see "my boyfriend" then I see "my girlfriend" the "one of my boyfriends" it's impossible to keep up. But whichever one said -- hey i got an idea why dont you give your fingers a rest and do your "mechanic" job that you so call have. its pretty bad when you have to check every tires plus case and tell people they dont know what the hell there talking about. any buddy that knows anything about cars is always a "arm chair mechanic" thanks for your input but no one cares about your opinion.-- has turned out to be quite the arm chair mechanic..talking about some other shop and being a mechanic an all.

And who was typing here? --all of you tires plus employees are so funny you all have your wife's or girlfriends type for you is that because you never completed grade school and have no clue how to type? wayne's case was thrown out because it was ridiculous. theres not enough hours in he day for this right wayne? is that because your always in court? glenn finds humor in all of your replies so keep writing.he just makes you all look dumb.-- YOU cannot type! So you should have your wife, or gf, type for you. (Unless you are the gf, then let your boyfriend try typing)

From following along for quite some time, I can tell you that Glenn is not making ANYONE look dumb. Lol this is crazy. Goodnite.

Robert, Leticia & John

I say we just let this rest. Obviously Glenn has the mental capacity of Todd & Charles. You all give great input to these pages, however it's lost on this one. We need to put this one to bed and not waste any more time on this thread.

Todd is a secret code

Or a love affair that went bad;Todd where ever you are marc is still pissed at you. Stay tuned will jon ever come back from his summer home?, will rachel ever divorce her husband when finds out who he really is? And what about bob?or they all just one guy with multipliable computers?I know your out there;I see you post. Are you boss hogg?Has your career taken you so low that you have to defend Tiresplus? Come back now ....we are all waiting for you. YA ALL COME BACK NOW YA HEAR.

Last response

I to have sent rebuttals since Glenn's postings that have not posted. Glenn had a commercial ladder rack on his truck with many ladders and he never had proof of ever having his tires rotated after owning them. At any shop they remind you to have your tires rotated usually with your oil changes. He is leaving that important information out. When you don't maintain what you purchased and don't follow the the golden rule about rotating your tires it voids your warranty. Now the check Glenn is referring to, Tires plus offered him a check for 500.00, because it costed more to have two lawyers, Wayne and two of his employees show up to court then to make an offer. Glenn held onto the check until the court date and was hoping to win his 7500.00 claim he was making, because if he would have cashed the check then that would have meant he accepted the deal of 500.00. Well what Glenn isn't telling all of you is that the check was cancelled the second he entered the court room. When Wayne, the one lawyer, and the two employees entered the court room the other lawyer stayed out for a second and cancelled the check.

Glenn has since tried filing suits against the other Tires Plus stores, even the one he had the work done at and they were thrown out. This whole situation with Glenn and his wife was caught on tape, that has sound, from the stores security's system. Glenn the camera never lies.

ADUMBRATE EVERY POST

For Chritine and jenn your post are 7 min. apart that is strange.You both talk nonsense;adulterate everyting that we post.And I agree that everything you write is to addle.You touse everything that is said about tiresplus. this is about bad tires that are being sold with no warranty. How you two clowns came in correcting spelling HELLO IS ANYONE IN THEIR? ANY CLUE? THEN DO NOT READ OR WRITE AGAIN you are all staphylinus.wE ARE NOT TODD GET IT!The only mental people that post here are you robtard,john, marc. now post and runaway like good little ripoffs

Rachel you seem to be way to invested

Rachel,
I am not sure how you seem to know so much about what is going on with this case but I have spoken to Glenn and this is far from the truth. So unless you are Wayne or Tires Plus I would suggest getting your facts straight before posting.

God Willing you don't ever have to drive a car backed by Tires Plus or better yet god willing I don't have to share the road with you.

Forget about the drama Glenn. There is so many people out there that know the truth and that is what is most important.

rachel

Sorry to tell you but I know for a fact that the $500.00 check was cashed. so tell your hubby that he is dumb for not knowing that.why didn't Wayne bring the so called "video" to court if he has one? good question huh? Maybe because he looks like the bad guy? There are so many bad story's about Tires and its so sad that your hubby works there,always ripping people off. like Glenn said maybe they should change the name to Tires Minus. I'm done writing about this I have better things to do with my time then to write to you mindless people.

P.S. TIRES PLUS SUCKS!!!!!!

HEY RAYTARD GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR BUTT

hard to respond to so many lies if your husband told you all this happened he is a BIG FAT LIER!I have my tires rotated every 3000 miles with oil change at vavoline at the savage store. If your husband had any camera tapes that day he should have brang them to court,could not do that because there is no camera in he store. another lie.So your inconsistancies show that you never read anything just took hubbys word for it.We are the one with everything on tape good old cell phone.

Now another lie the check was canceled did the lawyer that was on crack he didnt even know the number, scum of the earth lawyer They do not post you if you lie or swear; you people are not GOD. Going to court and this thead is to put a bad business such as the savage TIRESPLUS out of work. And your last lie NEVER sued apple valley supbpoe the tech that did the work who said the balljoints were good.WAYNE said they would fall off you are all abunch of crooks

Jennifer

first off i would like to know why would it matter which one of us is typing???? we are both on the same side we both think TIRES PLUS is a RIPOFF! your just another person who came in at the end, and to think your thoughts mean something to anyone is funny.I guess your just dumb and don't understand why people do not like Tires Plus.You must be another woman typing for her husband right? and he works at Tires plus too huh? that's sad. do me a favor and don't write to me anymore lets not take away from the main point.which would be what Glenn is writing. If you just don't get it. then don't read it.go add your two cents some place else.thanks.

SPELLING,IS THAT WHAT THIS IS ABOUT?

I thought it was about bad tires with no warranty. How much are you paid to do the fat cats dirty work?You turn everything around and to you who wants the check scanned ,who gives a crap what you beleive. You all put in your post and in those post how wonderful tire companys are. They could not care less about you. And ya know something,You suck ,your company sucks,and yo mumma sucks!

I am not John

Glenn,

I don't know why you automatically think everyone here is "John"or an employee of the company. If you look, I have answered hundreds of reports on here, mostly about legal issues, and ebay, two topics I know the most about. You calling everyone a crackhead while mispelling every other word speaks volumes about yourself.

As for your claims, now you are claiming that tires plus just sent you a check after you said you didnt want it? Please post copy of said check. I'm also waiting to see a copy of the finding in your favor, or at least your case number, so I can look it up and see for myself. Or you can simply give me your lawyers contact informaton so I can call them myself. Your help would be appreciated.

But of course you won't give any of that information because it doesn't exist. There is no way a company is just going to send a check to a person without a signed waiver or other documentation. Period. And I'm still unsure what financial loss you were out. They didn't do anything to your truck. You cannot be compensated for a financial loss if it didn't happen. As for almost running over your wife, without proof or witnesses you have nothing, and since they didn't actually hit her, what were you suing for?

Mike

Do you even know whats going on??? It just doesn't look as if you do. your talking nonsense bull s*it over your computer.(ooh scary) who the h**l cares if you don't believe Glenn received a check.(he did) Glenn should not have to post a damn thing for your satisfaction.

whoever you are

I ALREADY RESPONSED TO YOUR FATA** sorry if I offended you by a misspelled word, but I will not repeat myself again.Asking the same question over and over speaks volumes of yourself. see if you can understand this one.man are all you people retarded ,do you just write
because its the only thing you can do with one hand? Are you in prison?

F_ _ K YOU AND THE TIRES YOU RODE IN ON FROM TIRESPLUS.DO US ALL A FAVOR AND GO JOIN THE CIRCUS WHERE ALL THE CLOWNS ARE YOU WILL FIT RIGHT IN YOU CAN SLEEP WITH THE FAT LADY AND MONKEYS.

Cashing check nullifies culpability

Glenn,

You have lost all credibility here for a multitude of reasons I have posted previously. However, when a company give a settlement to someone in lieu fo going to court, they don't just hand you a check, a lawyer is involved and they always ask you to sign a waiver which precludes you from going after them for more money after accepting a settlement. I highly doubt a company would give you a check for $500 without their lawyer involved which leads them open to more legal entanglements.

Add this to the fact that your original post and every subsequent response you've made made no mention of this check until your so called court date had passed and you were called out and the fact that you won't scan a copy of the check or agreement or court finding and it all leads up to a whole lot of hogwash. You got nothing as their was no financial loss in your case. You cannot win money unless there is a recordable, justifiable loss. In your case, there was none.

thanks john for the info

I was driving down the freeway morgan tire lawyer called offerd 350 frist i said no he then said 500 said no and he hung up 5 dys later a check came for 500 . so that nullifes any waiver. so maybee will go back to court.That means they had no dought to what I told them is true .

once again thanks. maybe they will call again and I will get multitudes of offers if i take it back to court I was offerd 500 in hall,by women lawyer we said no because she ask me to sign waiver the crack head lawyer said no at that point the 2 lawyers talked.

women said we could send the brunsville and apple valley employee home To help we excepted at that point but the crack head lawyer said hell no! so everybody could have gone to work if not for him. wayne and glen would have stayed because wayne sued for slander ect, NOW if that is not clear to you, you need more help then you can get here

I WAS SOLD BAD TIRES

this ALL STARTED a chain reaction When I frist posted on ripoff it was because they would not warrarty them and tried sellng me things I did not need; my wife was screemed at and nearly ran over. I called corp. office,told them; aweek later a check came.they told me wayne is not in the corp. stores said he was on his own;and to take HIM to court and we did. nobody won in court. we signed no release at any time. What we can not understand the people that wrote saying wayne was right you are evil,easily lead, creeps who only care about there paycheck. What goes around comes around. Next time it may be your wife or mother. be carefull there are some bad tires being sold .The check was nothing to do with waynes store or so they say. so much for Humanity and watch out for scams buy the looks of the post they are all out to get you.

Glenn, once again

Ok Glenn, one more time. I do not have anything to do with Tires Plus, nor would I ever buy low end crap tires from a place like you did. I personally drive only on Pirellis. NOW, for those people and yourself who want to know why people like myself respond here, and why we question the voracity of what you say:

1. Glenn posted to a public forum that Tires Plus was a "fraud" and a "rip off". The purpose of this forum is for individuals like myself to read the posting and if we can help in any way or offer suggestions toward a resolution.

2. Glenns claims were questioned by a few posters with a mechanical background as what he was saying was unclear, and seemed somewhat exaggerated or something was "off" in his statements

3. Glenn posted his report on November 23rd, 2006. In multiple various updates by Glenn over the next 2.5 months, he never once mentioned that he received a check. However, Glenn now claims to have received a check PRIOR TO HIS ORIGINAL POSTING. The reason this is significant is if true, would be an admission of liability by Tires Plus and would validate his claim.

4. You need to have a financial loss to file a lawsuit. Period. The point of a lawsuit is to recoup your financial loss by the party responsible. Since Tires Plus didn't cause you a financial loss, what were you filing a lawsuit for?

I post on Rip Off report all the time, trying to help people get to the bottom of whatever it is they are posting about. And what I've found is that those who protest too much, attack the questioners, and whose stories seem to change are usually full of it.

The purpose of this site is to make people aware of ripoffs, and frauds. You claim Tires Plus is a fraud. Your refusal to post proof of finding by the court that they are indeed a fraud and liable for your "loss" speaks volumes. However, by posting in a public forum, or "fixed medium" that this store is a fraud, if they are not, or if they were found not liable for any loss, than you can be sued for libel, especially considering that there are at least 2 people on here who claim to have not gone to this store because of your post. You see, Tires Plus can now prove a financial loss due to YOU, and if you are truly lying, can recoup any and all lost dollars from you.

Please post any evidence you have of finding of Tires Plus being liable for any loss, or a copy of the check or simply the court docket number, along with the Judge who heard your case for verificaton that this Rip Off Report is indeed valid. Thank you!

What is with you people?

Hello Glenn. Best Wishes to you and your family as usual. Don't let the paint by number lawyer analogies on here get you upset? It is painfully obvious that he has no idea what he is talking about. It appears to me that he is trying to bait you and get you to give info that he is not entitled to. I know you were just trying to give consumers a heads up on the terrible service you received. I appreciate that fully. I know many others do as well.

Tires plus speaks for itself all over the web with nothing but complaints. I would suggest getting all the others who have been treated poorly and taking this issue above and beyond this forum. Remember you are not alone in this.

I would also suggest everyone to do a web search on tires plus and form a judgment based on the 10000's of people that have been ripped off. GLENN YOU ARE NOT ALONE. Don't fret about these armatures who are more worried about spelling then the actual message you are trying to make.

Who knows? You may have saved a life.

I HAVE A COPY OF THE CHECK

ITS all the proof I need. ITS up to you to search if it bothers you that much. not going to scan check and put it on the web my lawyer told me that. Call TIRESPLUS IN FLA. in the mean time do what I told you to do in my last post

Tiresplus savage mn.

This will be my last post.To all the trolls out there,post all you want I will not even read the site . The reason I was here in the first place was to warn people about tiresplus and the bad service I received.I understand not all companys care about their rep. But if I helped one person it was worth it.Life is to short ,I have better things to do with my time.If anyone has problems with the savage store it will be the only time you will see me post.Thank you ripoff for all your help and all that supported us.

Let's get this straight

Glenn, Is this correct:

1. The Tiresplus incident occurred in Oct '06.

2. Your first post regarding the incident was

Nov. 23rd '06.

3. On Jan. 24th '07, you mentioned your court

case was scheduled for Jan. 26th '07.

4. On Feb. 1st '07, you claimed that you had been "PAYED LONG BEFORE COURT."

5. On Feb. 2nd '07, you once again claimed that "Today I will cash the big check that I got in Oct. from FLA."

6. On Feb. 3rd '07, you stated that the check you received was from "Tires Plus Wheel Works."

7. On Feb 12th '07 you wrote, and I quote, "The subject is tires bridgestone dueler a/t that did not come close to making a 50,000 mile warranty. So bridgestone/firestone having had problems like this simply threw a 500.00 check at us without signing any release we were free to sue the savage store to get back the money that we spent a year ago on mis made tires."

8. Finally on Mar. 1st '07 you wrote: "Thank you ripoff for all your help."

You received a check from bridgestone/firestone or Tiresplus, depending on the mood of your finger as you type, at least 23 days before you even posted on ripoffreport.com the first time. So my question is, What exactly did ripoffreport.com do to help you?

payday has finally come

mike and robert between you both you ask 50 times to see the check.call wayne 50 times he has all the court info and wayne and 2 lawyers saw the check. so to all the others that personally attacked me for no reason untill you found out the truth but you really did not want the truth.so get your check books out and write a 5000 dollar check each because you should have gathered the facts before calling me a lier that goes for the other mike and two johns becaue youre all on the edge of a libel valid lawsuit.this is my last post call my wife a lier again your just digging a hole deeper for yourself

Elianne,I think you need a refresher course.

In customer service you very iriate and need to take dipolomacy lessons.When I first called about the check you attacked me personally saying nothing gets by me and there was no check sent to me!You have no patience,and that day like everyday you were fueled by anger.For customer service not once have you helped in resolveing the problem.This really nullifies your credibiltity.Because we did get the check and you know it. Iam wondering why everybody at morgan tire ,bridgestone,firestone and tiresplus,or whomever knows how she talks to customers that have been buying there products for years or that know one takes the time to take care of these matters.Iam thinking you are not a people person and need a new job.I personally find you oddly disturbing.

Once again to Amanda....

Your glib response to yet another person who has pointed out that Glenn has flat out LIED regarding this issue proves my point. You claim that Glenn has "helped you" regarding Tires Plus, yet apparently Glenn received a check from Bridgestone because it was THEIR problem, right? Or did he get it from Tires PLus, his story changed, so I'm unsure. So how did he help YOU?

The point we were making in pointing out the flaws in the story is that IF THERE ARE FLAWS IN ONE PART, THAN WHY BELIEVE THE REST OF HIS STORY? What makes you think ANY of his story is valid if he is obviously making things up? My belief is that Glenn was angry at Tires Plus for telling him it was his trucks fault the tires went so fast and refused to refund his money. So he decided to get even, posted here and embellished his story. The problem with that is if the owners of Tires PLus can prove he is lying and that you did in fact choose not to go there becasue of his lies in print, he can be sued for libel.

It's very convenient that Glenn chooses to not respond to those of us who are educated enough to spot the inconsistencies and have the means to check on the rest of his claims when constantly asked for them. You would think if someone REALLY wanted to help others, he'd provide as much information as possible. If bridgestone REALLY sent hima check, he should be posting a rip off report on them for tires that fail to meet the warranty limit, but he hasn't, why? because he lied and got caught and then simply refuses to answer under the guise of "taking the higher ground", which is always a tactic by spin masters and liars everywhere. Attack the questioner and then cut off further communication. (see Bill O'reilly/Tony Snow, etc for other examples)

Bullies

What kind of tires does Tires Plus carry? Hmmmm...... Let me think?? Bridgestone?

I feel like I am in grade school with all of you bully's and I am the only kid that is willing to stick up for the one getting picked on. I see a valid claim that was at times written angry, yes, angry, but who would not be if in the same situation. I have been to Savage Tires Plus. I am not in another state just messing with people on Rip Off for entertainment. I agree with Glenn and his wife on Tires Plus.

People like you are only making this more and more popular. Please keep going at this. You are making this the number one story via Google for Tires Plus Rip Off. So yes, Thank you. You are doing a fantastic job at shaming this Savage store in major search engines and thus in fact they are losing business. Congrats.

Gene..get real!

Gene,
Elianne in the Morgan Tire / Tires Plus corporate risk department in Clearwater would NOT have sent you ANYTHING without a liability release, if there is a lawsuit involved. You should give up the lies.. and tell it like it is! IF Tires Plus corporate had sent you a check, you would have to have dropped the suit first. No exceptions! That is the way that it works, and there is NO negotiation.

Furthermore, as far as you, Amanda, it would probably be advisable to KNOW the entire situation before you go and call aperson or a company dishonest. Did you ever stop to think that there MIGHT be numerous holes in Gene's story (sort of like Alpine Lace Swiss cheese)???

Who ever you are?

ONE LAST TIME Bridgestone/firestone and Morgan tire and auto bought all but a few tiresplus and will own all in 08. So when I said they threw me a check it was a typo, but you can see the reason I said bridgestone/firestone. DO YOU UNDERSTAND? Now I know you will twist that too. SO GOOGLE BRIDGESTONE/FIRESTONE and tiresplus. Check your facts because you can be held LIABLE. Stop your bullcrap and If ripoff post this will you stop then. I would love to cross examine YOU. I would to tell you evey day for the reast of my life but have a life.

The cold weather is affecting your judgement

"What kind of tires does Tires Plus carry? Hmmmm...... Let me think?? Bridgestone?"

Actually, TP carries several different brands.

I sell Flowmaster and MagnaFlow mufflers. If someone has an issue with me, neither of those muffler companies will refund anything to anyone. It works the other way around also.

"I see a valid claim..."

Really? Where do you see it. Nobody else does, except Michelle(one of the women in Glenn's little love fest), and you. Your credibility is nil, as you will again see.

"I agree with Glenn and his wife..."

You just blew it. Glenn has already admitted HE is really a group of females. THEY referred to themselves as "women". So, which way would you like to go Amanda? Since there is no HE/HIS/HIm in "women", how exactly did you talk to HIM? There is no HIM, since "women" refers to a group of females. Glenn was very proud that they were able to get over on everyone. Since there is no HIM in Glenn, you never talked to Glenn at all.

"People like you are only making this more and more popular. Please keep going at this. You are making this the number one story via Google for Tires Plus Rip Off. So yes, Thank you. You are doing a fantastic job at shaming this Savage store in major search engines and thus in fact they are losing business. Congrats."

Actually, besides being guilty of several racketeering charges, all Glenn and THEIR group of females have done is made TP look better. If the only people complaining about TP are the type that behave(and spell) like monkeys on crack, it can only help TP. Remember the adage..."all publicity is good publicity".

Thanx you

Thank you Gab-moron for your time well spent doing nothing but ripping apart an innocent man and woman who were doing nothing but trying to help other consumers.

Rip Off, thanks for having this site to help consumers make their own choice in business matters and I know this has helped at least 1 person and that is all that matters.

Some people are so miserable and unhappy in life that they spend hours on boards trying to point out others flaws. I am sorry that life did not work out the way you wanted and maybe you just need to take a break from the internet and perhaps find a hobby.

I wish nothing but happiness for all of you and Glenn please know that you helped me and I thank you. God Bless.

Still full of it

Don't listen to a word of it. Glenn has never provided anyone with verifiable information that he:

1. Went to court (and lost according to his own post earlier, so how he now has "won" I'd like to know)

2. Got a check from Tires Plus/Bridgestone, whatever he wants to say today (and now supposedly they've given him ANOTHER check??? c'mon)

Glenn can say anything they want on here, but without verifiable proof and considering the inconsistencies that have been REPEATEDLY pointed out and the many requests which have gone unheeded for proof of his claims, Glenn still remains steadfast in his denial.

Well Glenn, I still think you have embellished your story with distortions and outright fabrications to try and gain support here. Sue me for libel if I'm wrong. Of course to prove lible, you'd have to prove that what I have said is in fact untrue. So if any of your claims here are lies, you cannot prove libel.

I find it funny that you have supposedly shown a check as proof to the people who posted here supporting you. But when I asked for confirmation of the check, the docket number of the court case, the presiding judge in your case and the date of your case you told me your lawyer said yuo couldn't show it to anyone and I could "look it up for myself".

We all know the deal here Glenn. I'm simply posting at the bottom so anyone coming to this post through a search will not just see your bottom line.

Reserched Bridgestone/Firestone tires

There are so many lawsuits on tires past and present.When I had the tires replaced , I payed full price for 2 of the tires and half price for the other 2.If I had know of these recalled tires still being sold I would not have bought them in the first place.

Now less then 6 months later I am watching the same tires dissipate again,the same as the original.Yet the tiresplus corp. still sells them and they are not cheap 200 dollars per for a F -150 truck bridgestone/duelers.

So you think they as a large company that gave you a warranty would help.But instead they will have a"tech"measure (highly qualfied)to do this I can hope,now your choice at this time is pay what they deem you should or keep them until a blowout causeing a accident like in 2006 did in Fla. to cause 49 deaths due to firestone tires.

I suggest these dueler should really be a concern.You people must be cold blooded, instead of refunds you will fight each little case with lawyers that you pay millons,when you could prevent it by listening to people ,not having a rude women in charge telling people call someone eles it is not of our concern.

I have not once in my hundreds of calls spoken to one rational person nobody returns calls or e-mails EVER.All I want is a full refund for the tires so I can buy safe tires.I will never forget how the savage tiresplus tried to run me over because I wanted to leave.

I will keep you in my prayers and ask God to teach you lessons of humanity you richly deserve.Maybe karma will visit you,because a tire blowout may cause you an accident and then you will see my side of this problem.There has to be somebody out there in this corp. that will stop blameing everyone eles and step up to the plate,and call me.

No recalls on Bridgestone

Ok, so now you really didnt get a check, but think some one at BFRC or tires plus should give you money for new ones. ok ??

Bridgestone Duelers have never been under recall or even investigated for issues. Duelers are a GREAT tire that come OE on many makes and models.

Why are you bashing elianne, that came from left field.

Elianne do you send $500 "courtesy"checks

everyone? Or just people that have valid claims?I think it should be called a shutup and go away check.We have to direct everything at elianne,cant get past her,she claims she is in charge.Just stating the facts about her.As I said my new tires are wearing out already.What will they blame it on this time?Shocks,Truts,the muffler or maybe the gas tank?The duelers a/t have premature wear is the real reason.I wish I would have never walked in to tiresplus to buy tires.It has been a nightmare dealing with the corp. office.They have so many people in canada to give you the run around ,when they could just deal with each person here.How many of you out there have been sent a shutup check? Even my lawyer said they are admitting guilt by having sent the check.Once again waiting for a response from someone with people skills to settle this.

Let's get this straight (before we weave a tangled web)

What does Canada have to do with this? This is the first time you have mentioned anything about this country to the north.

It appears, Glenn, that your Tires Plus battle is becoming multi-national. Be careful that you don't start an international incident.

More silliness from the group of females known as Glenn

"Dont any of you do any research before you attack?"

Yes, and that is why you cannot maintain the same story twice.

"All the cares about is being the last one to post.I will only anwser like I said ,to somebody that knows what this is about.Elianne you know I spoke to you on the phone."

Did she talk to a man, or one of the many "women" who call themselves Glenn?

"I was told by you it was a check for no reason;just to be nice . Even when you where 2000 miles away when it happened.Let me refresh your mind,and just for a second. It could have been you that was throw out of the store by a man running at you yelling get out of my store.You would leave as so as you could like I tried to do but young man driving my truck thought it would impress he co-workers to make a run at me in the parking lot."

Wait Glenn...you said it was your wife that almost got ran over. Wait...you later said you're all "women" posting as Glenn...whoever she is.

"NOW do YOU call that service or do think that is how tiresplus should treat people.Its appalling to say the least.It has bothered me ever since.We can end this or keep it going on and on and on."

It would end if you would just post the information we have all asked for. None of the information is restricted in any way...other than the fact it doesn't really exist.

"A brother of mine in 03 went to get a brake job at tiresplus,as he drove away two blocks down the road he had no breaks,ran off the road hitting a sign.When he looked he saw they had not put the bleeders back."

Nope, did not happen. If the bleeders were not in the calipers/wheel cylinders/ABS unit, the vehicle would never have stopped, or slowed down. In fact, when he pushed on the brake pedal prior to starting the vehicle(the PROPER way to do it), the pedal would have gone straight to the floor. Only a total doofus would have ignored it. He's related to you, right?

"He didnt talk to the corp. or canada over and over,he walked back to the store(6.5ft.250+) pulled the manager out back; well lets just say express his feeling on his head."

Sure he did. And your brother is out of prison when?

"The golden rule do on to others as you would have them do on to you."

Does that include acting like a monkey on crack.

"You have all my phone #s cann we take care of? this matter soon PLEASE.SORRY 500$ CHECK IS JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR WHAT WE WENT THOUGH!"

You apparently went through nothing. The Judge told you that, we've told you that...everyone has told you that. perhaps if you had gone through something, things would have turned out differently for you and the rest of the gals in your group.

Obviously Lies

Glenn, the Tires Plus in Burnsville has received my business in the past as it will in the future. And Wayne has been nothing but courteous to me and my wife. So all I can think to say about your situation is that you must be in desperate need for money to be attempting to sue Tires Plus over such utter nonsense. And with all the mindless postings you've made, I would suggest you seek some help (a therapist or anger management). Also I see that this has been going on for months now, and you've responded to every single rebuttal. That leads me to believe that you're unemployed, which could be why you tried so desperately to slander the good name of Tires Plus for your own financial gain.

Elianne this is my fourth post

Dont any of you do any research before you attack?All the cares about is being the last one to post.I will only anwser like I said ,to somebody that knows what this is about.Elianne you know I spoke to you on the phone. I was told by you it was a check for no reason;just to be nice . Even when you where 2000 miles away when it happened.Let me refresh your mind,and just for a second. It could have been you that was throw out of the store by a man running at you yelling get out of my store.You would leave as so as you could like I tried to do but young man driving my truck thought

it would impress he co-workers to make a run at me in the parking lot. NOW do YOU call that service or do think that is how tiresplus should treat people.Its appalling to say the least.It has bothered me ever since.We can end this or keep it going on and on and on.A brother of mine in 03 went to get a brake job at tiresplus,as he drove away two blocks down the road he had no breaks,ran off the road hitting a sign.When he looked he saw they had not put the bleeders back.He didnt talk to the corp. or canada over and over,he walked back to the store(6.5ft.250+) pulled the manager out back; well lets just say express his feeling on his head.The golden rule do on to others as you would have them do on to you.You have all my phone #s cann we take care of this matter soon PLEASE.SORRY 500$ CHECK IS JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR WHAT WE WENT THOUGH!

ELIANNE-and any other nut job like todays post

I am self employed own my own company and am on my p.c.all day,for 25 years and very successful at that.I owe a house and investment property.My wife could have been KILLED that day.You have some connection with tiresplus and you are a complete moron,and some day karma will catch up with you and I hope you or a family member gets ran over by some punk kid showing off to his buddys.YOU are fueled by rage and anger and you are the one doing the slandering!You should be in st.peters. ELIANNE-we have a valid claim and hope you are looking in to solve this matter soon.MY lawyer told me to give you a chance but its been a week and my lawyer is ready to go all the way with this.

Good afternoon ELIANNE

Elianne have you ever read my post I
stay consistence from day 1.the only inconsistencs are the trolls who definition is to enter community to disrupt, distortions, lies, spin,to distract from the story .They are not worth the time or effort to answer to them.Wayne has never defended himself.I posted to wayne to step up be a man and tell the truth on feb.19 07 never once heard .I also called scott mcphee the owner,seen him on caller ID but no message. so left other one still no call. I have been telling the truth because neither one has defended them self.IF someone said something that was against your business that was a lie would you not defend yourself? To me there refusal to contact me regarding this is UNBELIEVABLE.iF the story is unreadalbe its because of the trolls rambleing and embellishments.Hope your weekend sucks and karma gets you all.I will be spending my weekend gathering all the info researching morgan auto,bridgestone(firestone)and tiresplus lawsuits including the 49 deaths and will post as much as I can

Good Morning,Elianne

ITS ME AGAIN-stop and think for a moment;one week after this happened in Oct.I received a check from your office .Someone in tiresplus wheelworks felt that we had been treated unfairly.They sent it so quickly they did not send a release. Even the police at that time said any one that gives you money that quick is admitting guilt and laughed so what are you worried about.Consider all the people that read this before buying tires.

I have e-mailed,called tiresplus,morgan tire,Mr morgan,Bridgestone.NOT ONE REPLy.Beware this company will not help you with any problems.They will say you are in the wrong and they are right and hang up on you.They will keep doing this to consumers until they stop making big bucks.

Elianne did you take the time to read the post by wayne, and how goofy his reply was and it does not even make sense.ONE more time someone respond other then nuts. MY lawyer will contact the corp. next week;but it will cost more then for his cut. have a nice day and try not to hang up on people.

Wait a second

Glenn...as far as court....

You posted on January 24th at 3:38PM Western Time that your court date was January 26th

You went on to say in a post 2/3/2007 1:27:16 PM

Since you are so interested in what the judge "whispered" to me.....It went a little like this....."how do you hide money from a Tires Plus Employee.....??? Hide it in thier workboots!!

***So you went to court already as per your own comments. So what was the docket number and the outcome of this case? How much did you sue them for and what was the resolution? Why not take this to Judge Judy and stop tying up the court system with your frivolous lawsuits. (Not that I believe a word of your story mind you)

ELIANNE NHTSA SAID 271 DEATHS FIRESTONE TIRES

tIRESPLUS WHICH IS OWNED BY MORAN TIRES bridgestone/firestone. AND NOT TO SPEAK OF THE THOUSANDS MAMED,AND LOSS OF LIMBS,HEAD INJURYS. wayne admitted to the judge that he did not do allignment,on the frist set of tires When ask why, he said they did not need it.Also said he had not givin us a estiment for the work but had one dated ten days later.SO that explains why 11,000 miles later,my tires wore out,balljoints ,idler, because of tiresplus . THINK about this I am out 1,800 because of waynes careless work! And you think a 500.00 check covers nearly 2000 dollars to my truck.THINK AGAIN.so ELIANNE you think thats fair.Anybody with half a brain like the trolls asking the same thing over and over.I have all the proof I need. clocks a tickin

gOOD MORNING,Elianne hope you had a nice weekend.

Come on Glenn

Instead of researching on the involved companies and how they are responsible for 49 deaths, why not just post your court info and we can help you nail those suckers big time.

Elianne I demand $1800

500 you sent first ,Wayne did not do an allinement on the first set of tires. Which caused premature wear and idler arm and ball joints to wear out.Im only asking for what IM out.If we come to some agreement I will post to that affect ;that the corp. office relly does care about there customers.And will sign a wavier. AND this will be over.
Mike oh mike try to keep up ;will ya

Glenn contradicts himself again

Glenn, in your post on 11/23/2006 you state:

"In the end I had the truck checked in apple valley and the ball joints were not bad and did get the tires replaced: after 8 hours thats service for ya!"

Yet in your most recent post on 3/25/2007 you state:

"SO that explains why 11,000 miles later,my tires wore out,balljoints ,idler, because of tiresplus ."

However, according to YOU 5 months ago, there was nothing wrong with your ball joints at the time you had your tires replaced. So once again you contradict yourself.

I'd also like ot know why you keep addressing things to "Eliane" when no such person has ever posted on here, nor has anyone claims she has?

You also claim in your post on 12/31/2006 that:

"I have everything that happen that day on audio inside the store and video outside (cell phones are amazeing)."

Simple solution to appease all us non believers, upload the video to youtube and let us know where to find it. Now this is not "confidential" and since you went to court on January 26th and your case has been resolved, than you can post this with no hesitation and prove us all wrong right?

Keep up?

Are you kidding? I'm on top of you like a hawk, and you didnt' answer the question AGAIN. Look below and answer me this question....

WHY DO YOU SAY YOUR BALL JOINTS WERE BAD IN YOUR MOST RECENT POST, YET IN YOUR POST 4 MONTHS AGO YOU SAY YOUR BAL JOINTS "WERE NOT BAD"

In your post on 11/23/2006 you state:

"In the end I had the truck checked in apple valley and the ball joints were not bad and did get the tires replaced: after 8 hours thats service for ya!"

Yet in your most recent post on 3/25/2007 you state:

"SO that explains why 11,000 miles later,my tires wore out,balljoints ,idler, because of tiresplus ."

Since October you have contradicted yourself so many times I can't even count. I have pointed out each time the problems with your story and asked you for more details to prove that what you were claiming was true and that you were not simply a disgruntled customer out for revenge. The wholepoint of this website is to help people find ways to solve their issues. But when we ask you for more information to help you you refuse to give it to us and change your story. It's obvious to everyone here that you are simply not being 100% truthful.

ELIANNE TIRESPLUS WHEELWORKS SUNNYDALE FLA.

Elianne we will wait untill 3/30/07 then post whatever you like to the effect" the tiresplus corp.office took good care of the promblem.I will go any tiresplus except savage.Then iwill not will post again.But lets me please rebutt mike you SAYS THAT YOU look at both side ya right.you are just another disgruntled troll out to have the last word.The wholepoint of the website is to help people find ways to solve their promblems.ya right ha ha if i am right there is 2 sides to every promblems. not once did you ask wayne his side check ? o
Or his side of the court info or this rachel who said she had everthing on tape. you havenot said one thing about about the savage tiresplus Iam 100%right.your are so full crap I am 100 % honest.At troll meeting do hand out free toiets cus full of it.do us all favor and go stand
in front of fast moving train
that it mike

Once again, Glenn...

Once again you didn't answer the question:

WHY DO YOU SAY YOUR BALL JOINTS WERE BAD IN YOUR MOST RECENT POST, YET IN YOUR POST 4 MONTHS AGO YOU SAY YOUR BAL JOINTS "WERE NOT BAD"

In your post on 11/23/2006 you state:

"In the end I had the truck checked in apple valley and the ball joints were not bad and did get the tires replaced: after 8 hours thats service for ya!"

Yet in your most recent post on 3/25/2007 you state:

"SO that explains why 11,000 miles later,my tires wore out,balljoints ,idler, because of tiresplus ."

And as far as why I haven't asked anyone else for anything....they aren't the ones making claims, nor is that relevant to your claims. You once again posted a barely legible post calling me names and refusing to answer the simple question

whoops, time to talk about spelling

come and get us no life trolls.ready start whine.The facts remain,the same.From day one.savage Tiresplus sucks. And Mike will you just go away,its none of your concern and if it is let me know why you think it is.You are just a pain in my ass.

And again you call me names and don't answer

Ah Glenn, once again you do not answer a simple question posed to you....see below:

WHY DO YOU SAY YOUR BALL JOINTS WERE BAD IN YOUR MOST RECENT POST, YET IN YOUR POST 4 MONTHS AGO YOU SAY YOUR BAL JOINTS "WERE NOT BAD"

In your post on 11/23/2006 you state:

"In the end I had the truck checked in apple valley and the ball joints were not bad and did get the tires replaced: after 8 hours thats service for ya!"

Yet in your most recent post on 3/25/2007 you state:

"SO that explains why 11,000 miles later,my tires wore out,balljoints ,idler, because of tiresplus ."

The reason why it's my business is because you have posted something to a public website asking for assistance in solving your problem. Myself and a few people have been asking you for clarifying information as well as asking you for verification on a few inconsistencies and you never answer and continue posting inflammatory name calling and irrational posts.

Answer Already

I think that everyone really does want to know why you're saying your ball joints were ruined by Tires Plus now. When months ago, that's what the whole fight got started over. The fact that you and your wife thought Tires Plus was trying to rip you off for new ball joints that you supposedly didn't need. So explain yourself already, Glenn. If you want anything resolved then you need to clarify this for everyone.

Caution: Over-inflating can and will cause permanent damage

For my own self-entertainment, today, I read this rip-off report from start to finish. Each and every thread. I started a Word-Perfect file to post a response showing all of Glenn's discrepancies and very obvious lies. In short order and with so much info changing from thread to thread. I decided to stop after having covered about 20% on this report. I already had a thread that was 4 times longer than any other post in here. I gave up. To many falsehoods and changes in the story by Glenn. As the story goes along, Glenn starts to give what he says are facts on one post, hours later then gives another, yet different set of facts, and moments later will give even another but complete different story or excuse. By the time one gets to the end of the story, you are no longer sure what you actually read.

On the internet, anyone can be anything they want to be. In real-life a person might be nothing more than the neighborhood putz, but on the www they can be a super hero. So after careful consideration, one can only come to the conclusion that Glenn is an over-inflated air head or that he has done this for his own self-entertainment. Maybe a little bit of both. As for myself, I am much more concerned about having a good movement later on today than reading anymore of his crap. CYA.

Obviously a fraud

Glenn,

Your constant refusals to address the inconsistencies posed to you, the fact that at least two separate people are posting under your name, your repeated attempts to spin, your name calling make it very clear that you are a fraud.

I have repeatedly asked you for information to help you with your case, as have at least 2 or 3 others. You have provided us with NOTHING to back your claims, your story has changed numerous times and now I've caught you making a claim opposite of your original claim and you refuse to answer why.

WHY DO YOU SAY YOUR BALL JOINTS WERE BAD IN YOUR MOST RECENT POST, YET IN YOUR POST 4 MONTHS AGO YOU SAY YOUR BALL JOINTS "WERE NOT BAD"

In your post on 11/23/2006 you state:

"In the end I had the truck checked in apple valley and the ball joints were not bad and did get the tires replaced: after 8 hours thats service for ya!"

Yet in your most recent post on 3/25/2007 you state:

"SO that explains why 11,000 miles later,my tires wore out,balljoints ,idler, because of tiresplus ."

Still waiting Elianne

The only one I will answer any more is someone from corp.office. Anybody in the corp. give a shit about your customers?HENRY?What a fake name I, know who you are. Done with it.CALL OR EMAIL ME ELIANNE. I HAVE HAD IT.Time is running out.Pick up the phone and end this.Thats what you get paid to do.

How sad!

Glenn,

You have provided more than enough entertainment (for it's nothing more than that) to the point it's become sickening, and that's putting it mildly to say the least.

Your many incomprehensible and oft times changeable ramblings have reached, indeed exceed, the ridiculous, yet you don't give a hoot. Your often angry, unwarranted, rude and insulting less than childlike and evasive responses to rational questions, destroyed a long time ago whatever shred of credibility you may have started out with. You would have done us all a favor had you obeyed any number of your past comments that "this will be my last post" but you couldn't even stick with them.

However, it upsets me to some extent that such antics have been permitted by the editors of this public domain to continue unchecked. They provide a necessary service and have even helped in one of my own complaints for which I remain grateful. Yet it ought to go without saying that the users of this forum should be expected to have some modicum of intelligence sufficient not only to state their case in a simple, easy to understand manner, but to expect and indeed welcome constructive suggestions for clarification where required. And in your case, Glenn, clarification was most certainly due.

I'm only sorry that you couldn't respond courteously to the many calls for explanation of the apparent inconsistencies in your postings. Had you done so this overly long-winded story would have been put to bed ages ago.

Who am I?

Okay Glenn, my name is fake. That's why it says it on my driver's license, and my social security card, and my paychecks. I must really be faking out a ton of people. If you're so smart, who am I?

DEAR ROBERT

Are you mental? I AM NOT GLENN. I have not posted on here for a while because I have Better things to do.I am not OLD and wrinkled like you.So shut your trap you mindless pig.Do everyone a favor and go shove a sharp stick up your a**. Leave me ALONE!

P.S. TIRES PLUS IN SAVAGE SUCKS THE BIG ONE.

Dearest Robert (

Everything you say is true.The women are angels and you can call me Charlie.People say Iam crazy doing what Iam doing.Thats alright well they give me all kinds of advice.But I just have to leave it alone.People ask me questions and Iam just sitting here watching the wheels go round and round;I just had to let it go.So we are all born to be working class hero's to be tormented for the next 20 years, and just be perversive but theres room at the top ,and if you want to be a hero just follow me.When ever your in trouble my angels stand by me,because life is so wonderful my angles stand by me.MY feet are so heavy my body is acking I have goosepimples all over cold turkey on the run;36 hours rolling in pain I will a good boy if you get me out of this hell and I will be a good boy from now on.Close you eyes the monster is gone. Before you go to sleep you are sailing on the ocean long ways to go.Get yourself together what the hell do you think you are a superstar?We all shine on te moon the stars and sun.Imagine no need for greed or hunger and people livin for today.Livin life in peace.I feel the music touching my soul;when night has come and the moon is the only light you see the sky may come crashing into the ground and the mountains may crumble I dont care as long as my angels stand by me.So long ago was it just a dream?So real to me.I took a walk down the street I could here two sprits call my name,what more can I say.But what ever gets you though the night its alright and what ever gets you though life its alright.We can play mind games forever.Raiseing the spirt of peace and love.When ever Iam in trouble my angels stand by me.Life is so special so take the time to start over and fly away take a trip.My lfe is in your hands cause its written in the stars.My heart is beating fast,I didt mean to hurt you sorry I made you cry. Just had to tell you goodbye. People to the people right on.And power to ripoff.com For posting bridgestone/tiresplus are one in the same.John Lennon Rest in peace.

That was lovely

"Are you mental? I AM NOT GLENN. I have not posted on here for a while because I have Better things to do.I am not OLD and wrinkled like you.So shut your trap you mindless pig.Do everyone a favor and go shove a sharp stick up your a**. Leave me ALONE!

P.S. TIRES PLUS IN SAVAGE SUCKS THE BIG ONE."

That was just lovely. You made my day complete.

Do you live for this kind of stuff, ROBERT?

I am new to this web-site. I was reporting my own complaint of another co. When I was done with my own report I started reading other reports out of curiosity. Most were helpful, but when I came across this story it was like a train wreck (where you can't help but watch) I could not believe that I was still reading this silly fight basically between Glenn and Robert and Mike. I could not imagine a man having this much time on his hands (robert). I am 29 years old and have 2 year old at home, and I am lucky if I can finish this paragraph! At least Glenn has something invested in this, and has a reason to respond. Come on, you'll possibly even enjoy this rebuttal just so that you have someone to respond to. Imagine if you took the time only doing constructive things instead of trying to always be a know it all. Grow up Robert. O rare you just plain lonely?

To Jodi

Jodi,

I appreciate you jumping in with your two cents, however your observation is misguided. I for one bookmark the reports that I respond to in order to follow up, etc. I also browse others to see if I can be of assistance since I have a braod range of knowledge that can be used to help people, mostly in finance and ebay.

However, I am not fighting with Glenn, Glenn is fighting with US. All we did was point out the problems with his story and ask for help so we can further assist him. Glenn chooses to respond to these requests and points of innacuracies with name calling and refusal. His story has changed at least three times in response to us pointing things out and now he is completely claiming something different than he originally posted (first claimed ball joints not bad when he replaced tires, now claims they were).

The reason why this matters is because this website should be used to help legitimate complaints and those people posting them. The people who make things up or are simply disgruntled customers seeking revenge (and there are many posts here like that) simply do the legit people harm.

I cant believe it a person that can read.

Jodi thanks,after all that tiresplus has done these trolls come at us daily.The whole thing is madning that it is no concern of theirs yet ;everyday I am called names.All I wanted was good safe tires.This company is mean evil people.They have no concern for anybody and must live very lonely lives.They twist your story.These sites would be better and shorter if they would just stay out of everybodys post.good luck

friendly advice

ill try to make this as unbiased as possible... im a mechanic(not TIRES PLUS)with ten years of exp. i have seen this type of situation first hand and emotions get in the way of good judgement every time when it comes to 500 dollars worth of tires. it doesnt matter which side of the counter you are on its still hard to be cordial when it feels like your being ripped off.

yet again i am not on anyones side....just information..ok?!

it is not uncommon to see a truck with 50k miles with bad ball joints, certain brands i have seen as low milage as 25,000, but thats a different report. i have also seen tires just not "agree" with a certain car but work very good on other models...i have had very good luck with brigdestone tires but my freind hate them.

if the tire wear was even across the whole tread of the tire chances are the ball joints and idler arm was not at fault, but if there was looseness beyond manufacters specs the did have the right to request that the parts get replaced before new tires were put on.

if the tire wear was uneven, more focused on the inner edge of the tire or outer edge it could have been the parts causing wear or alignment issues

if the wear was focused on both inner and outer edges it was most likely caused by under inflation.

now if the front tires were "choppy" or worn in a sawtooth pattern too much towing or weight was placed behind the rear tires.

one thing to keep in mind, alignments and front end checks are not only a way for a shop to get more money out of you but they are also there for protection for your tires. if you buy tires and they dont offer those services find somewhere that does. yes it means more out of pocket for you butit will save you the stress later.

also keeping the tires rotated every other oil change, or about every 6k miles, will help the mechanics notice any premature wear. maintenence is the key.if you dont brush your teeth you cant sue your dentist for new teeth. :)

chances are that the tires could not have caused the parts to fail unless they were oversized and/or the rims were offset compared to orginal. if the parts were loose at the whole time the tires were on the vehicle a good front end check should have caught that and would have stopped any problems. if they didnt offer the service shame on them. if they did shame on you. :)

just remember, most of the employees in the automotive field are not crooks and the constant acussation can make even the nicest, most down to earth person turn hostile quickly. chances are that "wayne" wasnt out to get you but i can truly understand the frustration. 11k with worn tire... h**l yeah i would be pissed off too!!!!
im just trying to avoid any missed placed hostility here. as i said ive been a mechanic for ten years and once a customer feels like they got ripped off, they think everyone gonna rip them off, not the case.

well i feel like im rambling so i hope this info has help you with any further tire purchases and good luck with all your dealings

bridgestone firestone

Has not recalled millions of other tires, FHP said firestone tires a factor in fatal crash.st. peterburg times 43 deaths in 1997 13 were vehicles equipped with firestone not recalled .these tires may suffer from the same flaw caused by thead separation on those recalled last year.Suspect tires still on the road.Some are the same size that were recalled but they were manufacted.Some of suspect tires were even installed on vehicles as replacements and design as the one recalled.They were made in manufactured plants that were not on the recall.like mine MADE IN JAPEN.so LOOK CLOSELY AT YOUR TIRES PLEASE i HOPE i MAY HAVE SAVED YOUR LIFE

Mike/Robert please help people, not hurt people

I would like to know why you feel compelled to judge anyones situation. I like the fact that you say you help people with e-bay, etc...If it was not for people like that, I also would have been scammed.But when it comes to this situation you could have given your opinion only one time.It seems like your angry with Glenn, why? It may be because you feel he\she is wrong, but WHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE. It was not your money or your family involved in this. I have nothing involved in this either, but I felt I had to write in.I have lost count of the number of responses you have given (which all repeat how right you are and how wrong Glenn is). Imagine how many people you could have helped on e-bay with that time. I think Glenn got your point a long time ago.Also Glenn, I know how bad it hurts to be ripped-off.Please do not give up.You are helping a lot of people! Thanks.

Thank you for clearing it up jim

jim you cleared up alot.We knew we did not need ball joints or idler arm thats why the big know it alls attack me.My tires all 4 wore out even no inside edge or outside edge.If you read the story then you know the manager wayne said the balljoint were going to fall off.This truck is a 03 f150. the 1st set was put on at 40,000 from dealer.one year later 11,000 miles they had wore down almost to nothing. He called me in back to look at these BAD ball joints they tried with a steel bar and all they had,did not move at all.Told him I need a 2nd estiment.I told my wife I think they are ripping us off.But he keep telling us he is giving us a good deal and would not shut-up.My wife said just give us our truck back,THIS MADE HIM MAD,he charged at my wife told her to get out of my store! which she did and waited on the sidewalk saw her truck back out and parked.She walked across the lot but saw the teck still setting in it ;the truck was off and parkED she thought it was over NOPE he turned it back on speeding at her nearly killing her.This started at 10am when we got to the tiresplus close to home 12pm. Now they tell us balljoints are ok slight play but idler arm is bad, and said he would replace for 100 ok put that on,now if there is play in ball jonits replace them too 125 AT this point I was damn tired just wanted to go home at least i saved the 375 wayne wanted more. Thougt i would deal with corp. office the next day.I beleive there was nothing wrong with my truck.I know enough that if all your tires wear that fast evenly its bad tires 750.00 is not a cheap tire .THANKS FOR YOU HELP.

Once again, spin and nonsense

Once again, not one shred of proof has been provided to back up the posters claim that liability has been admitted by either Bridgestone or Tires Plus. I'm not sure what Glenn's babbling was meant to do besides distract from the fact that the lies/distortions/embellishments were all caught by those of us attempting to help Glenn resolve the issue and when asked for documentation of the claims, nothing but spin occurred.

There is obviously at least two people posting under "Glenn". One of them is fairly good at expressing themselves and is fairly intelligent. The other one can't spell "cat" and spews some rambling in the last post, yet both claim to be "glenn", thus furthering my feelings that this is nothing more than someone trying to cause trouble for the Tires Plus in MN, perhaps a competitior.

I just wanted to put my 2 cents here at the bottom so that those people who are re-directed here by searching Tires Plus in a search engine won't be distracted by the lies, distortions, and flat out ramblings.

Attention Rip Off Consumers

Please google Mike Rivers Edge rip off and you will see that he is all over here fighting with consumers. What does that mean to you? It means he has an agenda. Read between the lines people....

I.E. He is on this one fighitng with another poster

Here is one---

It is not shoddy nor unethical business practices which caused you to be billed again. It was your laziness in deciding it wasn't worth your time to read a legal "Term of Service" within which the company stated that you would be automatically rebilled. Don't feel bad, half of the reports on here are due to people who don't read a contract/TOS/fine print and then complain about it.

Mike - River Edge, New Jersey
U.S.A.

Rebuttal Consumer Comment
Submitted: 7/18/2006 9:14:56 AM Modified: 7/18/2006 9:14:56 AM

Go ahead and do it. Also with Robert.

Glenn - learn some manners

I will not bother to discuss all of the worthless posts and lies. I just want to point one thing out to "Ms. Glenn". Your wonderful use of filthy language is to be admired. Perhaps this lingual skill caused all of your problems.... just a thought.

In consideration of words like "Robtard" I would love to express my views.

I am the father of an adopted child who has mental disabalities. Or as you would say "she's a 'tard'". She will never mentally progress beyond the age of 13-14; very similar to you. She has the capacity to understand her disabalities and words like "tard".

Like any other person she is disturbed and hurt when she is mocked for her differences. Unlike you, she understands that the challenges she faces are not easy and are never to be taken lightly. To turn them into a joke is beyond insulting. Even with her problems, she would NEVER make fun of a disabled person. YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED.

I must express my sincerest wish that karma pays you in full for your remarks. Perhaps a nice stroke or head trauma would give you time to consider your words. If only the mechanic had run (you, him, wife, husband, who knows) over it might have opened you up to a new level of understanding.

I will keep you in my prayers and ask God to teach you the lessons of humanity you so richly deserve.

As a side note, you have asked Robert to meet you face to face. I would like to ask the same of you. Perhaps you can come to Grand Junction and try calling my daughter a "tard". I promise you a very prompt response.

SPIN SPIN SPIN DAAAAAAAAAAAAAA?

Frist I would like to address Mike; who seem to think he is one rightous dude.Let me give you a refresher course on the names you called us in this thread."liers,flat out ramblings, distortions, imbellished, contatradiction, cant spell cat, unbelievable,LIBEL,untruths".Here to help; sure for crooked business.All you talk about is the check.I have posted all that I can just for you .DO think it is my fault they wont tell the truth?Maybe they feel it is personal info not for your concern. I will personally send ripoff a copy,if they refuse to show you,thats life in the big city.I find you unbelievable you refuse to beleive what happen that day in savage it was disturbing to say the least!I have been concise and spoke the truth from day one.yOUR POST ARE ALWAYS FILL ANGER AND UNTRUTH.You lost all credibility long ago.THEY border line harrassment so watch the word libel.

For CRIS,sorry if you were offended by my use of the word robtard.Have you even read my post?And the names I have been called?SO let me get this straight you call me retarded and threaten me.So what are you a nutjob or another troll.IF you have something to say about tireplus lets talk;or go eleswhere and act big and bad.

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Lies, Lies, Lies.. Come on Glenn

Here is the part that Glenn LEFT OUT! - It's time to own up to the truth, Glenn!
First off, Savage, Mn is a franchise store, and it is NOT owned and operated by Tires Plus, or Bridgestone/Firestone! Therefore, ANY legal action that you would bring against them would be against the individual franchisee, and NOT Tires Plus corporate! Bridgestone/Firestone also would not be involved either, as they are merely the owner of THE FRANCHISED NAME (sort of like McDonalds.. get it..?) Burnsville IS a corporate location, however!
Secondly, Tires Plus corporate did NOT cut you a check, and I know that for a fact.. Trust me, if they did, and it was out of the Clearwater corporate office, Elianne (the corporate risk manager) would know you by your FIRST name! And, she doesnt!
Third, Bruce Morgan has NOTHING to do with the stores in Mn, and ESPECIALLY not the Franchise stores. He is a RVP for the SOUTHERN region, which might have something to do with why your calls to him were not returned. Furthermore, that, again I will mention, is a FRANCHISE store. Corporate has NO and I repeat NO control over those locations, period, and Bruce sure does not want to know in that case! I'll quote you here"We have tried to resovle this problem with the tiresplus corp. office and Mogan tire and auto but will not return any calls.". What do you think that they are going to do for you? Nothing, because they have nothing to do with that store, other than licensing the name. Maybe you should have called the actual owner of the store that you are speaking of? THAT might carry a little more weight here.. But, unfortunately, you havent told the entire story, or the truth, or anything resembling the truth to the readers! Therefore, you would not have been contacted by ANY attorney that was representing both the Savage and Burnsville stores (that is a corporate location). You WOULD know the difference between a franchise and corporate store if you had actually FILED a suit in the first place, which I doubt you even did!
Bottom line.. You LIED.. there was NO check from TP Corporate in Florida.. and the rest of the story is probably a lie in itself. If you think that we should believe otherwise, post the docket # on here.. so that we can check.. (Robert, do you agree?). Note to John, a Tires Plus check would be drawn on Bank Of America, however it would NOT be from Witchita Falls, Tx!
-Bottom line. Robert you are 110% correct. This never happened.. There WAS no check, period, and I can back that statement up too... There was no lawsuit, and "Glenn" is a liar. End of discussion!

do not threaten me

I thought this was about tires, The last posting have NOTHING to do with tiresplus. Its my wife and I.I am not amanda or michell. CLEAR I was threaten by chris so I GUESS you can tell people you PRAY they die or are left braindead is ok.AS long as you have a retarted child. yep I can see where that has something to do with bad tires cant you! GOD is not the one you should worship. stop your rage its not going to help.

Yes Amanda, I said it, and it was the right advice to that person bases onthe RIP Off report he filed

Yes Amanda, I am on here a lot, however, in googling me, I see only one result in the first five pages but hey, I digress. Let me help you. I try to help people when I can, but I also point out to people when I believe they are wrong. Since you pointed out the latter, let me point out the former (where I try to give advice to help, or ask for more information to give assistance)....

ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff237639.htm
ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff237802.htm
ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff238139.htm

I also want to thank you for pointing out that I do not work for Tires Plus as has been insinuated here, since you have nicely pointed out that I post on a variety of topics.

As far as an agenda, here is my agenda:

1. I try to help people resolve their issue if possible

2. I expect people to have personal responsibility, and if the rip off post seems to me that they are at fault, then I point that out

IN the post you provided above, the poster was complaining about being auto charged for Match.com when it clearly stated so in the Terms of Service. Here is what he wrote:

It turns out if you click on a tiny buton called terms of use when you sign up, and scroll down a popup window of 6 pages of fine print, which they know no one reads, they then tell you that you are authorizing an autorenewal indefinitely.

So this poster didnt read the Terms of Service but yet felt it was Match.com's fault and was advocating legal action against them because HE FAILED TO READ something. His excuse is that it's something they "know no one reads". How am I wrong in what I said, how is this not his own fault?

As far as this report is concerned however, there have been numerous inconsistencies, changes in the story, as well as statements that couldn't possibly be true as they go against corporate policy. Based on these facts alone I asked for more evidence or proof to try to help with this issue and have yet to receive it, although I have been attacked personally. I stand by everything I have said.

Enough is enough

This has gotten ridiculous. I will not post anymore as this has turned into something that the original poster never wanted. I was at court with them. I know the check they got and they don't need to prove anymore to you scumbags. Your agenda is clear. Draw more attention to this story and "someone" will get a payoff.

I am disgusted with the treatment that Glenn and his WIFE received. Yes, I said WIFE. Two people. Hardworking people of America watch out! God forbid you have something that will help someone and you come on here to warn. The same three people will come after you.....Hmmm.... the same three people.

Why do you think that is?? I figured it out long ago. I hope you have as well. I will not participate in this any longer as this is not about the subject any longer but in hurting people. Bottom line, people watch out for greedy unethical business and if you have a problem with Tires Plus, be prepared to never get resolution.

Glenn and company...you are the main ingredient in this story. Let's cut them off and let them fight amongst themselves. The person that wants to "fight" you is ridiculous and very obviously a plant. If something offends you that much why on earth would you read the very long thread and take the time to register and post. I pity you.

Bullies, find someone else to pick on. I think there may be some innocent person getting ripped off right now that you need to start a fire with. Go do your job, SHEEP!

To Glenn and Amanda

Glenn,

In my post on I said that I would go along with you, that your lawyer won't let you post a scanned copy of a check, and all I asked for is information which is considered public, specifically your court dockett number, date of case, and sitting judge so I can look up the decision in Westlaw to verify your claims.

The problem with you claiming to receive a check is it proves that the company admitted liability. If they didn't cut you a check, than you have claimed something which is untrue and undermines the voracity of your claim.

As for this:

Let me give you a refresher course on the names you called us in this thread."liers,flat out ramblings, distortions, imbellished, contatradiction, cant spell cat, unbelievable,LIBEL,untruths".

I stand by everything I have said. It's not calling you a name if you are lying, embellishing, distorting your claim of receiving a check is unbelievable, you may have commited libel and have spouted untruths.

As for Amanda,

Your claim to have been in court with them should be proof enough to everyone here that you have a relationship with Glenn and his wife, and therefore everything you say is tainted due to your relationship. You'll notice that those of us with no relationship with Glenn and aren't blinded by that relationship can see through the claims in his multiple posts.

As for me being a "plant", I want you to show the other Tires Plus posts on here I've responded to, because there isn't one. Here's some of the topics I've responded to (and I've responded to hundreds):

Bank Of America, Match.com, Washington Mutual, AXA Financial, Mike and Sons Auto Sales, Ebay, PayPal, Kia Motors, slumlords, etc.

So how am I a plant? I am simply a person who comes onto this site during my lunch hour or in the morning to browse the complaints to both try to help people and to keep myself abrest of scams companies are pulling.

As far as this not being about the topic anymore but out to "hurt people", I beg you to show me one of my posts where I don't ask for further information to try and help Glenn. Every post I have posted asks for information. Every response I get goes off topic with refusals. So if it isn't about trying to help anymore, it's not due to my posts but rhather Glenns and yours.

Clear proof of Ms/Mr Glenns blatant lies.

Glenn wrote "CLEAR I was threaten by chris so I GUESS you can tell people you PRAY they die or are left braindead is ok"

My original statement "I will keep you in my prayers and ask God to teach you the lessons of humanity you so richly deserve." Glenn - could you please point out the threat?

Glenn titled the report "dont threaten me"

My original statement "As a side note, you have asked Robert to meet you face to face. I would like to ask the same of you. Perhaps you can come to Grand Junction and try calling my daughter a "tard". I promise you a very prompt response". Again Glenn, point out the threat. Do you consider people responding to your stupid and insensitive remarks to be a threat?

Since you feel so threatened by me TAKE ME TO COURT. You are able to obtain my IP address if the authorities agree with you. Unlike you I will be happy to post all legal documents on this site for readers to view.

And finally, this posting was hardly about tires so it is the last item needing mention. This posting has been all about glenns hurt feelings. The "facts" change constantly because glenn is lying. He/She/It could not keep their vechicle properly maintained. To cover this the story needs to be changed as the truth was squeezed out. And still to this day; NO PROOF AT ALL.

Glenn, I will await the process servers with baited breath. If you have any trouble getting help from the authorities please post that fact here. I will make any effort to get this information to you so that we settle our differences.

Glenn,

I have read almost every rebuttal, I do know that there is a chance they might come after me personally. But I really think there is no chance they can disagree with what company I reported. Actually, I think everyone should know about this company. It has over 270 complaints on this web-site. I don't think I can give the company name here, but you can go to.. ripoffreport.com/results.asp?q1=ALL&q4= &q6=&q3=&q2=

I hope I wrote that right. Never done this before, but I feel it is important for everyone to see what this company has done to so many people. In every state. I could easily happen to you or anyone. Its one of the biggest scams I have ever seen. I don't think Robert or Mike could even disagree!

JODIE,thanks much

Their really going to come after you so get ready. I would like to see your ripoff to help.They are searching for you for sure.Ya never know sometimes the little guy wins,at least we have good karma. Right on.

loose idler?

you know want im not claiming to see and know everything but i have yet to see a newer generation f150 with a loose enough idler arm to replace. ford actually allows some movement in their ball joints. alot of car makers allow some movement in their ball joints, some allow none. ford spec is .031 inch up and down movment (axial).

that doesnt seem like alot but when you use a dial indicator to check that it equals alot of visual movement. idler arms are also allowed a little movment. gm has a spec for their idler arms but im not too sure about ford never seeing one loose enough to replace. in fact my f150 has almost 100k on it with allowable movement in the ball joints and a tight idler arm.

just checked it this report made me wonder about the idler. even if the parts were faulty i usually give the customer the option of getting the parts replaced or a second opinion before replacing tires. if they insist on tire replacement signing a waiver should have worked unless the parts are in danger of falling off. in that case we have given them a little "break" on the labor costs.

yet again the retail auto industry is a very stressful career at times. ive been there. ive been irrate with customers that have maybe taken things a little more personal then thay should have. obviouslly if i got irrate i took things personal too and normally im a very patient person. again good luck with your dealings and i hope this situation has not swayed your veiw of the average auto industry employee. there are alot of idiots out there but there are also alot of good hearted people willing to help any way they can.

Displaying abstract KEN JOHNSON spokesman

For the house committe ivestigating firestone tires,some people taking advantage of fords recall on firestone tires maybe driving away on different brands with higher failure rates,say congressial. Investgators will reveil results of their analysis into the failure rates of several tire brands during hearing in june 19th 07. National highway traffic safety admimistration increases death toll from accidents involving firestone tires 203 from 174. once again check your tires and be careful. The life you save may be mine.ha-ha your family and friends.

To Jodi and Glenn

Jodi, I have no reason to "go after you" and if you have read the rebuttals, you would see I have only gone after Glenn because there are blatant questions as to the voracity of Glenns claims. I have no reason to speak badly to you, and only addressed you because I wanted to explain why I felt the need to address your question as to why other people felt the need to respond to Glenn.

Now as to Glenn....

You again claim in your 3/31/2007 post that "We knew we did not need ball joints or idler arm thats why the big know it alls attack me"

Yet again, you claimed this prior:

In your post on 11/23/2006 you state:

"In the end I had the truck checked in apple valley and the ball joints were not bad and did get the tires replaced: after 8 hours thats service for ya!"

Yet in your most recent post on 3/25/2007 you state:

"SO that explains why 11,000 miles later,my tires wore out,balljoints ,idler, because of tiresplus ."

So to recap...

11/23/2006 - Not bad

3/25/2007 - Tires, ball joints, idler worn out because of tires plus

3/25/2007 - Not bad

Michelle

Michelle, you don't help Glenn's credibility any by resorting to insults. For someone who claims not to take any sh*t, you certainly seem to give more than your share. Perhaps this has to do with being able to hide behind a computer screen?

You have made the biggest mistake in your life

So let me get this straight,you stated that the ARMY was beneath you. RIGHT? to all the army vets and those currently in the army.Do you see what kind of a man your are sticking up for.SO that means intensive and below,underneath beneath,unworthy.HEY THAT MEANS BETTER THE YOU.SO MIKE any one that was not usmc that are fighting for you so you can write b.s. on this post you have no RESPECT FOR THE U.S ARMY IN iraq? WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? tELL conor masterson a 21 year old army medic from woodbury minn OH too late he was killed by a road side bomb afghanistan this weekend.NOW we all know you will try to spin out of this one BUT WE WILL NOT LET YOU.so listen up all you army vets in jersey mike in river edge thinks he is better then you and nam vets and Iraq vets in the US and those currently figthing thought you might want to know what mike thinks of you. I AM A NAM VET AND PISSED LIKE YOU ALL SHOULD BE.you disrespectful gutless slime.

Excellent question

Ya know Jodi, that is an excellent question.

This thread has deteriorated to an almost soap opera like state. Any consumer scam/ripoff "Glenn" may or may not have been a victim of is now impossible to determine. He/she has changed so much of his/her tale (even his/her identitity!) that I haven't believed anything he/she posted in a long, long time. It's kind of fun to watch the interaction between posters, but that gets old.

Why AM I still here?

*steps off this now-lame ride and moves on*

Once again, Glenn...

You again twist the facts of what was said to again suit your needs. What I said was in response to this

"so MR. ARMY MAN i WAS IN NAM,big deal."

And I said....

**First off, if this is true, thank you for your service. Secondly, I am a Marine, do not call me army man, the army is beneath us, thank you.

So I thank you for your service, tell you I was in the Marines and say that Marines consider it an insult to be comnpared to the Army because your training is so much more lax than ours, but again, I THANKED YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

Yet you change what I said to be some sort of insult towards serviceman in Iraq. Thanks for proving my point that you twist everything on this thread

I'm back...

I haven't wanted to reply again to this silly thread anymore, but I felt compelled to after reading Glenns latest line of BS. Let me respond to the BS you just spewed.

"Where shall we begin.Their were so many of you that never took the time to listen to what I had to say."

**Not true. We listened to everything you said and have listed the changes, inconsistencies and things that you claim happened that simply do not happen in the real world the way you claim they do (cutting a check without an investigation)

"But gave you all specific info many times such as the check ,but found that unbelievable.Your credibilty was shreded when you found out that was real.next the court docket when I told you very concisely.WHEN I told the truth from the start. I provided specific clarification on the court ,the check,the corp office never returning any call."

**You have NEVER GIVEN SPECIFIC INFORMATION. You simply say "I got a check for $500 from a bank in Florida" or "I went to court in such and such county". You have NEVER provided a docket number or even the name of a case. YOU fail to provide the video you claim of the whole incident and the only credibility that is shredded is yours as proven by the 20 or 30 people here that are on my side. You fail to proved the claim number attached to the check, or the contacts name on the letter accompanying the check.

"I MAD ABOUT THE TIRE. I think its nescessary for you to ( google firestone/bridge death&injury toll 06-07) so that you may be more informed before you make your next senseless remarks instead of calling us names.Like I said I am here to warn people about the bad tires and bad sevice."

**Your post was originally about tires wearing quickly and that tires plus told you that your issue was due to bad parts on your truck which you claim weren't bad but "had them fixed at the other shop anyway because they would do it cheap" and the fact that they tried to run over your wife.

If your story was true, I'd be more mad at them attempting to run over my wife, than about the tires, no?

"You have no proof I am lieing."

**True, I don't have any proof you are lying (not spelling). I also have no proof you are telling the truth because YOU REFUSE TO PROVIDE IT. However, what I do have is your own words, twisting the story and changing things time and time again.

"So tell us again WHY ARE YOU HERE ? EXPLAIN? Do have ANYTHING ELES TO DO. "

**I am here for a few reasons. I like to keep myself informed on scams so I don't get ripped off. I like to help people when I can to resolve their issues, whether it be posting helpful advice, or pointing out that the issue may be of their own causing or misunderstanding so they don't make the same mistake again. And lastly, I enjoy reading them when I have time.

Terrible Mike

"so MR. ARMY MAN i WAS IN NAM,big deal."

**First off, if this is true, thank you for your service. Secondly, I am a Marine, do not call me army man, the army is beneath us, thank you.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Read this:
United States Staff Sergeant Keith Matthew "Matt" Maupin was captured by Iraqi insurgents on April 9, 2004, while serving in Iraq after his convoy came under attack by rocket-propelled grenades and small arms fire near Baghdad, Iraq. On June 28, 2004, Al Jazeera reported he was executed by his captors who shot him in the head. On June 30, 2004, an Army spokesman said the video showing Maupin's alleged death was "totally inconclusive."

Born on July 13, 1983, Batavia, Ohio, Maupin was a 3.5 grade-point-average student and football player at Glen Este High School in Union Township, Clermont County, Ohio. He graduated in 2001 and enrolled in the University of Cincinnati Aerospace Engineering Program using a scholarship that Matt received from winning a writing competition. In 2002 Matt joined the United States Army Reserve and was stationed with the 705th Transportation Battalion based in Dayton, Ohio.

There is no point to keep this up. These people have nothing better to do. Debra is probably neglecting her daily duities of Burger King to be posting on this.

Robert took a vaction and left Mike in charge however mike starting by drinking on the job.

If his tune is not worth listening to, then why are YOU still here ?

I can't speak for everyone, but I know I come to this web-site for information on companies that people believe have wronged them, and might wrong you or me. Just because YOU don't agree, does not mean they don't have the right to warn other people (like me), and I appreciate that.

What is your reason for posting here (Mike)? Are you defending Tiresplus ? I think everyone on this post can say they have expertise from life experience, and anyone can take something someone wrote and twist it into something else. I am not the only one that understands what Glenn has said from the start, and I have watched people change his words around for the sake of argument.

When it comes to the name calling, it has come from ends. When I read the posts asking Glenn over and over to answer this question and that question (when he already has several times) it gets frustrating, even to me, so I can understand Glenns reaction to some of the (trolls).

To make a long story short, Glenn may actually be helping someone. You on the other hand, are not! So if you (Mike) are so concerned about Tiresplus/Firestone/Bridgestone, then why don't you buy the tire go to that company, have them put the tires on for you, and drive around for a while. I can say, if you were to do that I would be worried for you and your safety.

You asked for it.

Mike,

Immediately I read your comment I thought "Uh oh, you're asking for it," and how unfortunate it wasn't worded differently. And true to form, Glenn pounced.

But, like practically most of Glenn's submissions, the fact remains that try as he/she will, all the diversionary tactics (deflection and transference) in the world do not alter the one inescapable conclusion that Glenn's persistent refusal to address the core issues can not be covered up.

Dear Glenn, I thought it might be helpful to try and encourage some intercession obo Bridgestone/Firestone, but I've reached the point where I just can't see that happening, and why? Because you turn this into more of a comic road show with every post you submit in your pathetic attempts to continue to avoid the obvious.

I also remain saddened by the fact that the editor of this site continues to allow such deterioration.

Vacation is over

And yes, the ARMY is less than the Marine corps. Everyone knows it.

The US Army is trained to fight in huge numbers, on massive battlefields. The USMC is trained to fight in small numbers, in much smaller areas. We are also trained to attack from amphibious assaults.

There's a reason the marines are called "The President's Own", and provide security for all of our Diplomatic missions, while the Army does not. There is also a reason other countries attempt to emulate US Marine Corps training. For truly hard-core Marines, join the ROK Marine Corps. Those guys are tough beyond all comprehension.

Do some good in this world

Why o Why do you keep asking the same stupid questions over and over again? Glenn has answered the same questions over and over again. Again, this happened to them. Why are you so invested in this story? Are you a bored old man? A overweight woman with a alcohol problem? I can only conclude that something is very wrong with you if you take the time to rip apart person after person for no apparant reason other then your own jollys.

Offer some suggestions. Help the situation. Calling people crackheads and stupid and oh my personal fav " I am better because I am a marine" quotes.

DO me a favor. IF you trust that Glenn is a liar then go and buy yourself a pair of Tires Plus tires and your whole family. Then post on here what roads you drive on so we all know which ones to avoid.

You are not better. You were not there. This happened to them, not you. Get off the computer and stop harrasing innocent people. Live your life. You spend so much time on here I cannot even trust you are an expert at anything that you give worthless advice about.

If you are above all this as you claim over and over again then way even partake in this thread?

Glenn and companies, I know that the words of these people are hard to hear sometimes but really they are the morons that have nothing at stake in this story. They don't work for Tires Plus and they were not ripped of by them. They are not helping the situation. TROLLS!!!

To Clear the Whole Thing Up

Since this has all been going on for close to five months, I thought I'd clear things up for those of you who don't know Glenn, Michelle, or Amanda. Michelle and Amanda are really Glenn's daughters.

The reason this whole mess got started and has been continuing for so long is because Glenn and his wife are out of money. Glenn does not work all day like he says, nor does he own his own home, and he certainly can't afford investment property.

Also I should mention that he is not a "Nam Vet" like he claims. He was only about 9 years old when the American troops went in to Vietnam. So he should be ashamed of himself for posing as a soldier.

Anyway, at the time he was trying to get new tires he was on his last pennies so the Tires Plus craziness got started as what he thought would be an easy way to make a few bucks to afford rent. He was so desperate for money he started a huge family conflict to try to sponge rent money of his son and daughter-in-law.

After that failed he still needed money for rent and so this all continued. So for any of you who don't know what is really going on here, this is the story. Just thought you all should know the truth.

Vindication!

After all the accusations that I am posting under various names, work for Tired Plus, and pointing out other people believe Glenn, why don't I, the truth comes out. Glenn has now admitted that two of his biggest supporters ARE HIS DAUGHTERS! And not only that, but they never mentioned this relation, AND ACTED AS THOUGH THEY DIDN'T KNOW GLENN! Check out these words from Glenns Daughters:

Michelle posted on 12/30/2006:

"Glen,I happen to come across your story as i am looking to purchase tires soon."

Amanda on 12/31/2006:

"Hello, I have something to add. I wento to local Tires Plus was told I had bad alinement when tires were put on a year ago. Glenn everyone wants to know how they all wore out,I know first hand because I had the same problem with tiresplus and they also blamed it on everything. "

Amanda on 01/16/2007:

"I wish nothing but justice for you and your wife Glenn "

Michelle posted on 1/16/2007 (as her bf I guess):

"my girl friend turned me on to this site and story"

Amanda 1/25/2007:

"I have been following this story for some time as I myself have been a victim of fraud and unethical business practice"

Amanda 2/6/2007:

"I thought I would check back in and see how things are going for Glenn and his family. "

Michelle 3/3/2007:

"Are you mental? I AM NOT GLENN."

Why would your daughters call you Glenn and refer to their mother as "wife". Simple, they are leaving out their relationship with you on purpose to drum up support and make it seem as though you have supporters when in actuality this proves just how full of crap you Michelle and Amanda have been for the last 6 months.

Wow.. what a FRAUD! What a SCAM!

Whatta story, eh? Quite the soap opera... I just couldn't keep away!

Kudos to Robert and Mike for stickin it to this (these) guy/woman/women and not giving up.

Seems the only Ripoff here is, and always was, "Glenn" him/herself, and the poeple that supported him. Is Jodi related to him/her/them also?

... So, do we start a new ROR about "Glenn" and how he/she ripped us and this website off? lol