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Overdraft Fees Haunt Bank Of America ripoff customer with overdraft fees tricks Charlote North Carolina

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Bank Of America

banckofamerica.com
Charlote North Carolina 28255
U.S.A.
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Category: Banks


Submitted: Wednesday, June 15, 2005

Last posting: Sunday, March 05, 2006
Bank of America
1.800.933.6262

They do not post their email on their website. bankofamerica.com

Bank of America will steal your money, don't do business with them if you do not want to be robbed, they do not deserve to be called Bank of America. Here's what they do to make sure they steal the most money out of you:

Let's say you have $500 in your account, the whole day you shop and you used your card for small amounts during the day, and AFTERWARDS had an emergency and had to make a $400 withdrawal, you figured you had made about fifteen earlier purchases for less than $10 and you know you will go overdraft if you take out the $400 but it's an emergency and you are willing to give them the $30 overdraft fee, well it turns out than when you check your account the next day they have lined up all your withdrawals from largest to smallest even though they didn't occur in that order so instead of one $30 overdraft fee for the $400 you will have 15 $30 overdraft fee and little you can do since it will be taken out automatically form your next paycheck as you surely have direct deposit like most people, this happened to me several times I emailed asking how come they charge everything form larger to smaller despite that the smaller amounts occurred first in the day, they replied with a moronic answer saying "Oh most people need to get their car payments and mortgage payments through and they are the larger ones so we want to make sure they don't go late bla bla bla" the guy pretty much assumed I was an idiot or something cause if they have "overdraft protection" it means that all payments/checks will be disbursed no matter what, so plainly they just want to maximize how many times they can charge you overdraft fees. I closed my account after realizing they had taken more than $600 in overdraft fees. Hopefully you avoid this by not opening an account with them or closing yours.

hope someone can help to stop them

Carlos
Lewisville, Texas
U.S.A.



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#1
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POSTED: Wednesday, June 15, 2005
Read the paperwork that you received when you opened your account. It states that they process the largest amounts of debit transactions first each day. The reason they state they do this is because usually the largest amounts are mortgage, rent, car payments etc.

In your case though the cash transactionn where you withdrew the monwey. If this was at the bank or at an ATM all cash withdrawals are posted befor debit card transactions. If the way you say they had processed the debits first then they would not let you even have the cash.

What you are asking for is for bank of america to loan you 400.00 at no cost to you. When you realized you were over you should've contacted the bank then and maybe they will try to do something for you.

There is no ripoff here just sour grapes on your part because Bank of America does what they tell you they are going to do and the same thing will happen at any bank.
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No different policies than ANY other bank!

Adolph - Elkhart (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, June 15, 2005
Quote:"the guy pretty much assumed I was an idiot".........I rest my case.
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No Wonder 15 purchases under $10 in one day

Cory - San Antonio (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, June 15, 2005
15 purchases under $10 in one day, on a card. No wonder you had $600 in NSF fees. If you learned to budget, took out enough, in cash, for your purchases AT ONE TIME, you'd have better control over your money OR, ONE NSF FEE. Then you go on to explain that it has happened SEVERAL times. At this rate it will continue with just about any bank you go to.
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BOA should be less "courteous"

Bill - New York (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, June 18, 2005
As far as paying the large checks first, yes, that is standard bank policy and is pretty much universal.

As far as allowing you to OD your account using an ATM card for POS tranactions, that's a little different. Many view this practice as shady because the bank is in effect allowing you to do something technically illegal (overdrawing your account) and then profiting handsomely from it. Often the banks say this is a courtesy, but usually it's them that reap the rewards. I would rather my POS transaction be declined, so I could use another means to pay for it. Many view this as a scam because unlike bounced checks that generate fees for banks, declined POS transactions do not result in NSF fees. By approving the transaction, the bank is efectively helping itself to the OD fee. Are they really doing you a courtesy or themselves? I'd rather they be a little less courteous - of course this would result in lost revenue for them so it's unlikely.
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POSTED: Monday, June 20, 2005
First of all, you admitted that you spent money that you didn't have. And you complain cause you thought you could get away with one $30 fee? Think instead of what would have happened if the bank DIDN'T let you have that extra $400 bucks you didn't actually have in your account. Your "emergency" would have been much worse! Now regarding the overdraft fees, you are clearly overstating the problem cause you CANNOT be charged 15 fees in one day for overdrafts.

By law, you are only charged up to 5 fees per day no matter how many items post to your account that day. Now if your 15 transcations posted to your account over 3 days... 5 transactions posted per day and overdrew your account, then yeah, you would be charged for each one.

But how is it the bank's fault? You didn't have the money! When you signed up for the account...you should read what fees will be charged if you are going to PURPOSELY spend more money then you have. And you say it is taken automatically out of your paycheck....well, only if you leave your account in the overdrawn status and your check is direct deposited. You expect them to let you pay back the money you OWE whenever you feel like it? Someone should file a rip-off report on you!

If you are getting $600 bucks in fees, its because you continually spend more money then you have! $600 divided by $30 is 20. So you were charged for 20 items that over drew your account.

That doesn't even tell us how many items you actually overdrew on your account, that just tells us how many you were charged for! I think you are the one commiting the crime here, not the bank. ANY bank you go to will charge you for spending money you don't have. You should be THANKING the bank for letting you pay a fee in order to borrow money for your "emergency".

If you had tried to get a cash advance, i can assure you that you would be paying more the $30 bucks. You don't want to pay fees, then carry cash. Then you can't spend more money then you actually have.
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you must work for bank of america

Mary Beth - Kennesaw (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, June 20, 2005
Anyone who would look at this website and then go on to respond to consumers' complaints about businesses such as Bank of America, obviously must work for that business. Otherwise, no one else would waste their time. So, don't tell me/us that you are a statisfied, happy customer and you are simply defending the bank that you have chosen to do business with...if that's the case then you are an idiot.

Bank of America is simply a bad bank with very shady business practices. If that were not the case, then Bank of America would not have so many ANGRY customers such as myself and the others who have posted negative comments on this website. Wherever there's smoke, there is usually fire as well.

We WERE screwed by that bank...call it whatever you like and defend however you can. Like I said, you must work for "them"...you've swallowed the "Bank of America" poison just like the Wal-Mart people.
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To true Amy... dog house waiting for you

Julie - Guthrie (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, June 20, 2005
To write a check knowing you don't have the money in the bank is a misdemeanor and in many states, a felony. You committed a crime. Thank your lucky stars that you had overdraft protection, because if the merchants got them back, you had a dog house waiting for you. Hedging is a thing of the past. But what happened to you is you ripped off yourself. Yes, it sucks. Hopefully you have learned a lesson here, albeit a very costly one.
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go back to your bank of america cubicle, julie

Mary Beth - Kennesaw (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, June 21, 2005
Go back to your Bank of America cubicle, Julie (in Oklahaoma).I understand that you've gotta work somewhere to feed your...uh...kids. I bet there's some more donuts and coffee in the breakroom. Why don't you go back there and have some more...maybe another 2 0r 3. Then go back to your little miserable existtence and think about all the bad people in the world trying to get over on Bank of America and how they deserve what they get.

I've commited no crime in my life and don't intend to. I think that Bank of America is the real bandit here.
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Amy where there is smoke there is fire.

Thomas - Shoreline (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, June 21, 2005
To charge a overdraft fee is one thing. To charge the amount being charge is another thing. If the law was changed stating it was ok to rob anyone for one day by clubing them over the head and taking there wallet or purse it appears you would be on the streets at day break and work till midnight. Most other people would say that is rdiculous and not do what was WRONG. YES WRONG and RIGHT dont always mean elegal or legal.

What your saying in your posts is that who cares what is right or wrong as long as I make my money and dont get charged with a crime for what I did.

So open your eyes and learn. There are laws and rules being broken with this pratice the banks use to charge over draft. but I think you already know this. Where do you work Amy? duuuhhhh perhaps a bank???

READ this post from the government agencies that govern banks. Your thoughts and your beliefs are on borrowed time Amy.

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2005/overdraft_loans.html

http://www.consumersunion.org/pub/core_financial_services/002389.html

Hey, but have a nice day
Thomas

PS And how much did you say you where selling that swamp land for???????????? get real......
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There's donuts in the breakroom

Julie - Guthrie (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, June 21, 2005
There's donuts in the breakroom? Why didn't anyone tell me?

Oh wait, I don't work at B of A.

I have overdrawn before, I haven't done it in a long time. If you don't have money, don't spend it. Simple as that.

People like you make it easy for people like me to have free checking. Thanks!
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find this entertaining?

Mary Beth - Kennesaw (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, June 21, 2005
My name isn't Amy.

Why are you so interested in what I do? You don't work for Bank of America? So then why are you even bothering to answer these posts? This site is for people to post comments about being ripped off...be it legit or not. I guess that what's one thing in my eyes is something else in yours (I was ripped off and you say not or that I deserved it). This site is also for individuals or companies who have come "under fire"...so that they can defend themselves, I guess?

Anyway, I'm a human being and a good one at that, and really don't deserve any crap from the likes of you. What's more, I don't care about what you may think about me. You don't have a clue about any of our personal business (our meaning those that have been burned by this bank)...or do you?

Or maybe you do, sitting in that bank of America cubicle, eating donuts. Maybe you know it all? If you don't work for "them," then my point to you and my question to you is: what they heck are you doing hanging out at this site, defending a bank that you don't work for? Get a life!!! If this is simply entertainment for you, then you are truly sick.

By the way, you don't have a clue about what happened with my account, or the things that this bank has done to me and to others...simply because they are big enough and powerful enough to get away with it. I can accept when I am wrong. Obviously, you don't read enough into what someone else is saying. I have always paid my overdraft fees, but this bank has found a way to screw their customers royally...especially those who live from payday to payday and this bank is profitting handsomely from it. What they do should be illegal.
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POSTED: Wednesday, June 22, 2005
I am talking about people who spend money they don't have, of course. This country used to have debtors prisons. That took care of bad check writers, etc. In all of these threads, I have seen one common theme going..."I spent more money than I KNEW I had, but I shouldn't have to pay for that". Riiiight. As for the idea that everyone responding "must work for BoA", how does that even begin to enter a straight line of logic. Most people can do 1st grade mathematics so those who can't get to pay for our FREE checking priveledges. I own a garage. If I have a customer give me a bad check, I get to pay for accepting the word of that individual that it is good. That's why I don't take checks, by the way. As for credit cards and check cards, if someone pays me at 8 in the morning, I can run it. I close my shop at 6 at night. That means that for 10 whole hours, I have been given approval on their money, but I don't get it and it's not taken from their account untill I close out my Hypercom at close of business. There is not a single business that will close out their days reciepts after every single transaction, they are batched. If I don't close it out for days, I still get my money. If the card holder can't keep track of their money(adding deposits and subtracting expenditures) too bad. I'll get my money because I have an approval code. The math wizard who can't fathom basic subtraction will get to pay some good fees. When I was young, it only took one time for me to learn not to do something again. Apparently, some of you don't ever learn. I worked for a guy once who paid over $2000/month in overdraft charges each and every month. It never occurred to him that that was $2000 he could have kept...all he had to do was NOT write the checks untill he had the money to cover them. This guy had been in business for over 10 years. I'd let you do the math, but you've shown a lack of aptitude for it. He spent somewhere in the neighborhood of $240K in fees. He still hasn't figured out what he's doing wrong, and I am not going to continue anymore trying to teach him. VIVA LA FREE CHECKING!!!
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POSTED: Wednesday, June 22, 2005
Spending money I DON'T have, Robert? What about money that I THOUGHT I had...like the small monetary gift from my father -a personal check that was deposited in an ATM and credited to my account and then I was sent an advice of debit TWO WEEKS LATER saying that the money was taken back out becuase THE CHECK WAS LOST.

AGAIN someone isn't listening/reading and comprehending. AND WHAT'S WITH Bank of America holding desposits? It's almost as if they are purposely trying to screw anyone and everyone.

Ask my husband. He's got a checking account, and savings and a CD. He's got a few thousands in savings alone. I SAY A FEW because I will never disclose the actual amount to anyone here. Anyway, needless to say, he doesn't live from payday to payday like many Americans do, and he doesn't worry AT ALL about overdraft fees. We recently took a trip to Europe, and he opened up yet another small account JUST for that trip (with Bank of America, needless to say). His reasoning for doing that was because he was returning home for a visit to Eastern Europe for the first time in 5 years and he didn't want to risk being robbed and having all his money taken from him. If he was robbed, it would be a small amount...that amount was what he thought we needed to get by.

Anyway, THOSE ACCOUNTS ARE ALL LINKED. The smaller one went into overdraft, but he has plenty of money in the others. He went to the bank complaining to them, and they said that this particular account was NOT linked to the others. He, of course, said "NONSENSE, why the heck would I not link them and let this one be overdrawn when I have so much money in the other accounts? Duh!" (Not the exact words, but you can get the meaning.) He got them to remove that overdraft fee (like I knew he would and could) becuase it was their stupid mistake and because he does have a good bit of money saved. Once again, money talks. It's the poor who suffer most.

Sorry, Robert. I don't agree with the concept of debtor's prisons or stocks. Bank of America is robbing people blind and the laws are currently designed to protect them and institutions like them.

Okay, bottom line is: transactions should be posted in the order received and not from highest to lowest.
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$$$$IT IS MORE PROFITABLE- BOTTOM LINE!!$$$$

Richard - Santa Ana (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, June 22, 2005
The real reason why banks start with the larger amounts: $$$$IT IS MORE PROFITABLE- BOTTOM LINE!!$$$$. They will give you an excuse to gouge you legally and find more ways to get more. So the only way to deal with this problem is learn and live with it or find a bank that cares more about customers. I used to bank with BofA and I was burned once the same way. That was the last time I did business with them.
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For Amy Head of OCC takes first step

Thomas - Shoreline (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, June 28, 2005
Dear Amy you stated that a website I posted on my rebutal was just a consumer advocate site...

What does that mean? That the information is false ?

If its not good information please share that knowledge of yours with all of us miss-informed consumers !

We consumers can't go to the Bank of America and get any real information now can we.

Higher Standards....
Total Security Protection....
Fraud Detection.....

This is what BoA claims. Thank the lord for freedom of speach....

NOW Amy please tell the people that read this article below that the first step of many needed is not true.

The acting Comptroller of the Currency, Julie L. Williams, testified before a Congressional committee that efforts to streamline massive consumer disclosure requirements present an opportunity both to reduce the "regulatory burden" on banks and improve the quality of information provided to consumers.

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2005/overdraft_occ.html

Amy, Your such a devoted employee of Bank of America that I thought you needed to be noticed so I e-mailed all the heads managers of your bank and shared your feed back and that you have got the hand of customer service and now refer to the banks customers as MORONS

Oh yeah here is where you call me a Moron.

Have a nice day Amy :-)or should I say happy job hunting.... You can use me for a referance....
Thomas
Shoreline, Wa.

NBC NEWS, Bank of America gives away a customers life savings ($30,000) and
tells the customer that its not the banks problem and go away. Is it safe for
anyone to do business with this bank ?

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8211734/

Click below for BoA stories in Largest NW USA newspaper:

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/228366_stolenchecks14.html?searchpagefrom=1&searchdiff=2

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/228442_banked.asp?searchpagefrom=1&searchdiff=2

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff137663.htm

Front page story online consumer website: www.CX.org

Bank of America Chief Executive Kenneth Lewis, 57, boosted profit for a
13th-straight quarter by selling more credit cards, checking accounts and
personal loans through 5,800 U.S. branches.

Shame on you Mr. Ken Lewis.............. This is happening on your watch....

The unsinkable Titanic sunk now didn,t it.....Mr Lewis
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POSTED: Tuesday, June 28, 2005
Look, you idiot banks, if you all sit there and think I'm gonna pay $150 a month in overdraft fees just so I can have a damn checking account, you're out of your mind.

I could have a brand new computer system in my home for that same amount. Not just a computer, but a printer too, and one of those flat-screen monitors.

Instead, what do I get? Nothing! Overdraft, five times a month.

I'm sick and tired of it and I'm not going to take it anymore. I tried working with you idiots. I tried to keep my account with money in it all the time.

But, every time I turn around, what do I get? Overdraft! That's it! I am so freakin' done with this nonsense.

Here's what I'm doing. No more checking account. Closed forever.

I'm opening one savings account. And, I'm only putting the minimum amount in there. Just enough to keep the account open.

The ATM card is gone too. Closed. From now on, I'm paying with cash. Hell, I'll save so much money that way. Not to mention all the stress. I'm half afraid to even check my balance anymore. I know something's always going to be bad.

So, no ATM card! No debit card either. And, no more checks to figure out.

From now on, I'm gonna go in and cash my paycheck in person, at a teller window. I'll show them my savings account number, so it shouldn't be a problem.

If I have to mail out any bills, I'll use a money order from the post office. They cost 90 cents. Not $150 a month, like I been paying.

From now on, the only banking I'll be doing is to keep that same $300 in that same savings account. I'll never take a dime out, or put a dime extra in. Three hundred. Until hell freezes over.

Try making a profit on that, mr bank!

Think of all the extra money I'll save. At least $150 a month. Some months, more.

You know, I can't even think right with all this bank stress. But, it'll be OK now.

I gave ‘em a chance to make a reasonable account. I was willing to pay for my checking. Instead, it ends up costing me $150 a month, and I'm always in overdraft.

Now, they won't get nothing! Serves ‘em right too!

All you banks can kiss my ass from now on!
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Good Luck Thomas

Amy - Irving (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, July 05, 2005
Go ahead and try to get me fired. It won't work. You have a first name and how do you even know that's my real name or not my middle name you dope? There are over 600 plus people at b of a with the name "Amy" and quite a few thats locations are in Irving.

Didn't quite think that threat through did you?? And when the hell did I call anyone a moron in this posting? I try to educate you people because you blame a BUSINESS for doing exactly what they TOLD you they would do.....charge you for overdrafting your account.

You can complain all night and day but the fact of the matter is, you spend money you don't have, then you are going to be charged. So i wish people would learn how to handle their own money and quit trying to place the blame elsewhere. Whether I work at a bank or not is not the point. Common sense would tell most people not to overspend if you don't want to be charged.
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BOFA CAN KISS MY A

Traci - MESA (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, July 20, 2005
SO I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT BANK OF AMERICA WILL PAY YOUR DEBIT TRANSACTIONS FROM LARGEST TO SMALLEST. HOWEVER IN DOING SO THEY REALLY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE POOR PEOPLE. YESTERDAY I CHECKED MY BALANCE I HAD A TOTAL OF 8 TRANSACTIONS WHICH WERE ALL DEBTS FROM THE WEEKENT. THE LAST THREE TRANSACTIONS WERE IN THE AMOUNT OF $4.00, $5.99, AND $6.31. A TOTAL OF $16.30. NOW i OVERDRAFTED MY ACCOUNT $16.30 i ADMIT I WAS WRONG AND MISCALCULATED MY DEBTS. I WAS CHARGED $34.00 FOR EACH OF THESE OVERDRAFTS SO IT TOTALLED $102.00. I TOTALLY AGREE THAT SINCE I DID NOT HAVE THE MONEY IN THE ACCOUNT AT THE TIME THE PURCHASES WENT THROUGH THAT I SHOULD BE CHARGED AN OVERDRAFT FEE. HOWEVER I FEEL THE FEE WAS TO MUCH FOR THE AMOUNT THAT WAS PAID. EXCESSIVE CHARGES SHOULD BE OUTLAWED. BLOCKBUSTER HAD TO PUT AN END TO LATE FEES BECAUSE OF THE SAME CIRCUMSTANCE.
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POSTED: Thursday, July 21, 2005
I agree, banks in general charge fees that are unnecessary. I was overdraft .33 and was charged $34 in fees. This amount should be significantly lower. I also agree that banks know that people are going to make mistakes and prey on them. Personally, I think debit cards are the worst creation.
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Try a Credit Union

Susan - Oviedo (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, July 21, 2005
Many times I have had to write a check and then later in the day run down to the bank and make a deposit. A lot of Banks will deduct checks first and then after add in deposits, but by now they have deducted overdraft fees as well. My Crediy Union will add deposits first, and then deduct checks and withdrawls. Much better business. I haven't bounced a check in about 10 years because of honest banking at the Credit union.
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POSTED: Friday, July 29, 2005
State law dictates how transactions are processed on an account. In the state of Nevada it is illegal to process transactions from high to low.

I would suggest the following:

Get the word out to have this law in your state changed as no one in there right mind would want to be charged for five NSF items when they could be charged for one.

And

Read the terms and agreements for all banks you do business with the moment you open your accounts because information related to transaction processing will be included in the agreement.

Always remember when you open an account or agree to do business with a company you are also agreeing to adhere to that companies policies no matter how ridiculous those policies are.

All ways choose an account and bank that meets your complete banking needs.
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B of A NSF fees

Kathy - Beaufort (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, October 29, 2005
I had an account at Bank of America years ago and closed it after having the same issues with the 2pm deadlines and such. But the rules were visibly posted at the counters and the drive-thru. No one's fault but mine. What this boils down to is people not taking responsibility for their actions. I also understand from a friend who has an account there that they now credit your account the same day- in our SC town anyway. I believe the 2pm deadline was for the courier who came to pick up the checks from the bank and take them to be processed. ( My Dad used to do that in his hometown)
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Bank of America NationsBank spanked

Sue - WOODBRIDGEv (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, January 23, 2006
About 1.4 million current and former checking account customers of NationsBank may be eligible for a refund of up to $50 for bounced check and overdraft charges under a tentative lawsuit settlement.

In June of this year, NationsBank agreed to settle a 2-year-old class action suit relating to its "biggest-first" check-processing policy, which results in a larger number of bounced check fees for the bank. The bank notified its customers of the deal in letters sent out last month.

Without admitting liability -- or changing its policy -- NationsBank agreed to pay $9 million. It will set aside $5 million for refunds and pay $2 million in claims administration fees and another $2 million in attorneys' fees.

Final court approval of the settlement is scheduled for late January, says Steven Katz, an Illinois attorney representing the class. Unless the judge in the case rejects the proposed settlement, about 1.4 million customers are eligible to file a claim to recover up to $50.

The suit arose over an increasingly common banking practice -- processing the biggest checks first. Legally, banks can process checks in any order they want -- first in, first out; check number sequence; smallest to largest, or, like NationsBank, largest to smallest.

"Biggest-first" means that if more than one check arrives at the bank for processing on the same day, the check for the largest amount is processed first.

It may not sound like a major issue, but if you don't have enough money in your account to pay all of the checks, it can mean the difference between one bounced-check charge or a bunch of charges.

Here's an example: A customer has $1,000 in his checking account. Check numbers 101 through 104 come in for processing for $60, $10, $30 and $950, in that order. If the checks are processed by the check number or in ascending order (smallest to largest), the first three checks will clear and the fourth will bounce, meaning the customer will be charged one fee for nonsufficient funds. NationsBank charged $29 for each bounced check.

If the checks are processed largest to smallest, however, the $950 check will clear first, and the checks for $60, $30 and $10 will bounce, resulting in $87 in fees.

Bank of America, which took over NationsBank in a 1998 merger, continues to process checks from highest to lowest amount because, Bank of America spokesman Gordon Turner says, "Our experience and what our customers have told us is that they prefer for us to place priority on their largest checks. Most of those are typically for a mortgage, car payments, IRS payments, insurance premiums. Those are the kinds of checks that should you have insufficient funds, they create the most problems. Those are the creditors who report on a regular basis to the credit bureaus. Bouncing a check at the grocery store may cost you a fee, but it has less impact on your credit record."

The suit alleged that NationsBank didn't tell its customers about the policy and that the practice led to extra charges for insufficient funds and bounced checks. That, the suit claimed, violated the federal Truth in Savings Act, the Illinois Consumer Fraud Act and similar laws in other states. As part of the settlement, Bank of America has notified all its customers of its policy, Turner confirmed, and now includes it in information to new customers.

Turner said he did not know how much money the bank makes a year from bounced check fees. A June 1998 report by the Consumer Federation of America estimated that banks in the United States generate more than $5.2 billion a year in bounced check revenue.

$9 million beats nothing
While the amount of bounced-check fees collected totaled at least $40 million, one $29 bounced check charge for each member of the class, Katz says the suit was settled for $9 million because he knew there was a good chance of losing if they went to court.

"Banks have won these cases," he says. "As we looked at it, it was going to be an uphill battle. We thought it was a good settlement."

While the settlement allows for payment of up to $50 per eligible claim, that doesn't mean that everyone who fills out a form will get a refund. And not everyone who is eligible will file a claim.

"We think we have enough money, but it's very difficult to predict claims," Katz says. "It's not a science, it's an art."

Although Katz says he is pleased that the suit is producing some refunds for customers, the real victory was that now customers know about the policy.

"It was like pulling teeth to get them to change the disclosure," he says.

"That was our biggest goal. If you look at the pleadings, they denied that it was legally required to disclose. We said, 'Yes, you do.' That's the dispute and that's what we settled. We considered the refunds to be icing on the cake."
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POSTED: Friday, February 10, 2006
http://www.consumersunion.org/pub/core_financial_services/002389.html

http://www.consumersunion.org/finance/tcrbofasw698.htm

bank of america harvests money from its customers like a leech takes blood

i have used bofa for 6 years and never had a problem until the merger with nations bank a couple years ago. i knew a couple of people that had left nations because of the unscrupulous business practices which which they employ.
now i see all the same tricks that they described to me occuring at bofa, try a credit union, wells fargo, or compass if you want to be treated as a valued customer rather than a mark. i have procrastinated for two years but i opened a compass account awhile back and i am happy again.
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There is only 1 RELEVANT factor here.....

Steve - Bradenton (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, February 11, 2006
DO NOT spend more money than you have and you WILL NOT have NSF fees! GUARANTEED. This is such an old topic and ALWAYS comes down to people blaming the bank for thier own errors.

I have had multiple checking accounts, business and personal, in multiple states over the past 30 years. 15 of those years with Bank of America.

I have NEVER had an NSF problem with BofA. Why?

Very simple..I keep an accurate checkbook register, and I don't spend more than I have AVAILABLE in my account. AND, I READ and UNDERSTAND my terms and conditions of my account.

I am NOT an employee of BofA, nor am I an idiot.

Also, BofA BOUGHT Nations Bank, it was NOT a merger.
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TYPICAL SNOT RESPONSES..

Terri - Valdosta (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, February 26, 2006
I would be willing to bet that many of these snotty holier than thou comments are coming from those of you who do not work hard, scrimp constantly, and live close to the limit of your bank account.

When you have to decide between your husbands heart medications, your daughters diabetic meds, or your own blood pressure medications......not to mention the groceries you can barely buy, WE are the customers Bank of America loves to have on the side.

It doesnt matter WHERE OR IF Bank of America states it's thieving policy of placing larger items IN FRONT of several smaller items...(come on...do you REALLY believe that cockamamie story they feed you? Are you people REALLY that STUPID??) Well, yeah, probably, as many people nowadays lack common sense.

No matter how many times I balance my check book, if it gets down to the wire an my daughter needs medicine or food, yes, I'll take that chance. But, that does not give Bank of America the right to profit so mightily by taking what should have been ONE overdraft item transacted, say, on the 1st....and placing it AFTER a LARGER item that was written on the 15th....
And, make no mistake, they make sure that there are as many smaller items displaced as possible.

There will be those who have their smart butt comments, but they only show their ignorance.

They have no knowledge of what another individual is experiencing. Good for them if they have had such wonderful experiences with Bank of America.
All I can see is it must be nice not to have to worry about whether or not the FIVE DOLLARS you spend for a loaf of bread and hot dogs, (cause you cant afford anything else that day), will give Bank of America their much loved little profit donuts.
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Please. Everyone has a sob story.

Robert - Wallingford (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, February 27, 2006
At least with BOA all customers, regardless of their tale of woe is treated alike. Per the bank's policy. At what point does BOA make the decision that Suzie's sob story is worse than Johnie's sob story. By treating everyone alike there is no argument that BOA cut Suzie a break so why can't they cut Johnie a break. Simple and straight forward.

And here's a shocker, most banks follow the same policy.

When living on a tight budget it becomes more important to keep careful track of your expenditures.

It isn't that difficult. And it's called taking responsibility for your finances. And all it takes is reading through the terms and conditions of your account. Ten minutes at most. Then you can beat most banks at their fee game.

And no, I do not work for BOA, nor do I have an account with them, nor do I work for any financial company, nor do I have a large account balance with any bank.
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Bank of Amerikana

D - Chico (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, March 05, 2006
Little by little we consumers let our rights as americans slip away to corporate crud.

What is happening in the banking world with these mis-guided fees and overcharges is not unlike being held hostage.

It would be different if you truly had a choice, but you don't, you don't have any provision to opt out of the so called overdraft protection charge.. so in effect if you want to participate in the bank world you have to live by their terms... not too much different that being a German citizen living in Germany during WWII... whether you liked Hitler or not... you lived by his rules and regs.

Why is it you can't get a checking account or an ATM card and opt out of those so called bank friendly services... gee I don't know maybe GREED!

I would just as soon deal with my mortgage company over a late fee as be swindled out of $34.00 overdraft fee from Bank of Amerikana when they provide their friendly service to help me from bouncing my mortgage check...

Have you ever done business online... and had a merchant charge you twice for the same thing, or have an auto-payment set up and be charged multiple times for a monthly charge which results in an overdraft charge, which then results in another purchase you made that day result in another overdraft charge... try getting the bank to straighten that one out!

I would just as soon have my auto-payment bounce, my check bounce, or my ATM not pay for a transaction at the checkout counter... at least I would know immediately that there was a problem so I could address it.

Yes sure in a perfect world I would have my current bank balance electronically wired in my brain so I would know to the exact penny what I have in my acount... but the world is not perfect and neither am I... but to be treated like a third class citizen, with out the option to choose in america...the land of the free... well that just plain sucks!!

Don - Californika
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