Wal-Mart Supercenter Store #1164 Shoplifting: Falsely Accused of Eating Food And Not Paying! Columbia South Carolina

Wal mart low prices

I do understand the situation you are in. Please be aware that is the AP loss prevention's job to stop people and have them arrested. Just wanted to let you know, It takes common sense to pay for the items BEFORE you eat. Who in the world would eat the products and then pay for it. I am scratching my head here. I have seen kids and adults go into Grab and Go area designated for customers and employees. I have seen customers take food out and sit down along with eating it. This has been done without paying for it. Example, a roll, only 50 cents. I have seen a customer sit down without guilt and remorse. the customer ate it in from of the store manager. Store manager did nothing to stop it.

Tips of the day: Please out of honesty, PAY FOR THE FOOD before eating and keep the receipt. This way you have no problems. It keeps the cops and AP at hand. If they stop you, you have proof that its been paid. In one case It looks like you have gotten caught. Its nice preaching the bible. However, you, Todd, Must understand that IF you cannot find the receipt, most likely you have stolen the products. This is enough grounds for wal mart to have you arrested.

You will want to tell your children to PAY for the merchandise so they do not fall into the same path you have fallen into. I want to express sincerity to you Todd, Please, Do not take the cashier's word for nothing. They are there to set up customers for bait to get arrested.

I hope this helped out some people who are struggling in tough times ahead.

My experiece at wal-mart and comments on other commentators

this is no longer a thread it is a fricking rope... i want to thank all you ##@#$$ people out there that kept responding to this thread 1.5 years after todd stopped responding and most of you that responded with total drivel while he was still responding. thx to u my comments will probably not be filed as R-R has changed there rebuttal policy and i am willing to bet that is all becuz of this thread ...er i mean rope. hopefully this will get published as i want to wake people up and make them think for them selves.

i am neither pro nor con wal-mart but i did start out to be pro several years back when i was dirt poor wal-mart was all i could afford. their price matching policy saved me tons of money not only in food cost but gas cost to cuz i dint have to drive (mostly bus tho so time was saved in this instance) around to every store for ad sale items . and as a matter of fact in the area i shopped i was responsible for a change in how that policy was implemented (if wal-mart sold item by each and the ad was by the pound they would not match it so i went to the regional manager and discussed it with him and they change that policy in the customers favor however over the years it has change back . they claim cuz their cashiers where always doing it wrong . that is pretty lame excuse cuz they could have modified their computers to do it or simply change the way everyone else in the biz was selling stuff . they must like being mavericks or maybe they are just trying to get out of honoring the price matching policy like they shafted me and their correct pricing guarantee) .

i was so thankful to wal-mart (ok now dont roll ur eyes yet) for their price matching policy that i decided that when i was on my feet financially i would make my major purchases there. and eventually did buy a vid cam . hmmm that was a mistake ... after i had the camera for about 2 months the rechargable battery went bad so i decided to take the camera back to wal-mart for a refund. to my chagrin they refused saying their policy is refunds on vid cams was only within the first 15 days. I checked my receipt to see if it was on there cuz most big companies i deal with have their return policy right on the reciept but it was not on the receipt. I went to department i bought it from and searched hi and low for a posting of this policy and it was no where to be found. IT was posted only at the return desk. Now it seems to me that only a person who intentionally planned to buy and use then return a product would go to the return desk and check out their return policy.

one or two of the earlier post mention walmart low quality and that you could get better quality elsewhere at a modest increase in price. amen to that ...i bot a pair of sandles there and was doing some excercise and they came apart on me . i thot it was my fault so i bot another pair and about 2 weeks after i bot them and they also came apart and i was careful not to do anything that might be considered excessive while wearing them. my roomate bought a tarp from target when i ask him why from target he said that wal-mart was not as big or good and was substantially less money.

as for their policy on eating food before u pay ... almost everything time i go in there for major grocery shopping i buy wing or corn dogs or chimichanga (man are the good or what.) i consume them before i pay for them, but i do pay for them. becuz they are 1. cheaper than going elsewhere and eating b4 u getting to wal-mart 2. they assuage my hunger and prevent me from splurge buying. if it were against there policy they would have a cash register there at the deli... Fry's does and posts plainly that food must be paid for b4 cosumed ... Albertsons does . shop lift is wrong and store do persue it to discourage contrary to stupid claims in early post. most shop lifting is for smaller easier to conceal items and some stores will call the police for a 2 dollar item please dont ask how i know.

so in conclusion i am moving toward being anti WM . My mission in life is to not just get even with WM but cost them money for the vid cam thing ... so now 90% percent of the money i spend there is on price matched items that i know WM will lose money on :) like last night i bot roma tomatoes their price was 2.87/lb but they had to price match 49c/lb. MY whole point is use ur head dont buy at wal-mart if its an item u cant compare some where else.

there is so much more i wanted to say but since i dont know if it will get post i cant afford to potentially waste time ... could not really afford the time it took to write what i did.

well i can this i prolly wont post here any more cuz i cant copy and save my material

Walmart employee did wrong

I was an employee with Walmart Supercenter, and we were trained that the customer is always right. Before arresting the gentleman they should have spoken with the cashier and looked at the receipts as well as the video tapes.

Maryland Senate Overrides Veto of WalMart Bill

Maryland Senate Overrides Veto of WalMart Bill

By KRISTEN WYATT, Associated Press Writer
12 January 2006

ANNAPOLIS, Md. - Maryland legislators voted Thursday to enact a first-in-the-nation requirement that Wal-Mart Stores Inc. spend more on employee health care. The measure, touted as a money-saver for the state-supported Medicaid program, takes effect despite the governor's veto of the bill.

Labor unions have said they are seeking similar legislation this year in at least 30 other states. Supporters of the measure say the retailing giant unfairly takes advantage of taxpayer-funded health care plans because some workers are paid too little for them to afford Wal-Mart's health insurance.

"The taxpayers are giving a health-care subsidy to the largest retailer on earth," argued Democratic Delegate Kumar Barve. The House and Senate, both controlled by Democrats, both notched the three-fifths margins needed to override a veto last May by Republican Gov. Robert Ehrlich.

The bill requires companies with more than 10,000 Maryland employees to spend at least 8 percent of their payroll on employee health care or pay the difference into the state's Medicaid fund. Of the state's large employers, only Wal-Mart spends less than 8 percent on health care.

The company employs about 17,000 Marylanders at more than 40 Wal-Mart and Sam's Club stores, and about 1.3 million people nationwide.

Critics of the legislation called it a dangerous precedent that ultimately would cost Maryland jobs.

A Wal-Mart executive called the bill a poorly worded mandate for a single company. Wal-Mart spokeswoman Mia Masten said Thursday that the bill "could be the beginning of a slippery slope."

"We believe everyone should have access to affordable health insurance, although this legislation does nothing to accomplish that," said Masten, who said the retailer may partially pull out of Maryland if the bill becomes law.

She said Wal-Mart was unfairly singled out because of "partisan politics" and that Medicaid's problems go beyond the behavior of one company.

The veto override had been one of the session's most intensely lobbied, with business groups taking out print ads supporting a veto and labor groups rallying and taking out their own ads siding with supporters.

The decision is being closely watched by labor unions and legislatures around the country.

"We expect that today's vote will generate important momentum in many other state legislatures," said Nu Wexler, a spokesman for Washington-based Wal-Mart Watch, which is funded by a union.

The unions have said the states they will focus on include Colorado, Connecticut and Washington.

Some Maryland Democrats had harsh words for Wal-Mart, which is based in Bentonville, Ark.

"Don't dump your employees that you refuse to insure into our Medicaid system," said the bill's sponsor, Sen. Gloria Lawlah.

In the House, Delegate Anne Healey compared Wal-Mart to a schoolyard bully. But House Republican Leader George Edwards called the measure an unwarranted intrusion into private enterprise.

"If you don't want to work for Wal-Mart, no one's twisting your arms. Go somewhere else and work," Edwards said.

The company faces legal pressure nationwide.

In Pennsylvania, a judge this week approved a class-action lawsuit by employees who say the company pressured them to work off the clock. Last month, a California jury awarded workers $172 million for illegally denied lunch breaks, and Wal-Mart settled a similar Colorado case for $50 million.

The company is appealing the California verdict and may pursue an appeal of the class-action certification in Philadelphia.

A spokeswoman for Wal-Mart, Sarah Clark, said a law like Maryland's "does nothing to help the 46 million uninsured individuals in this country."

This Columbia Wal-Mart Is Closing Down It's Sit-in Deli!

NEWS FLASH: Just discovered today, that this Wal-Mart is closing down it's "entrapment-sit-in-Deli"!

Hmmmm... makes one wonder why? It has almost been a year since the false arrest, and now Wal-Mart closes down it "sit-in-Deli"... I think it is because of this posting and other postings like it that has Wal-Mart scared and running for the hills.

NOTE: You (Wal-Mart) can run, but you cannot hide, we already had all the evidence of the "entrapping"! You will not win in a true-court of law. And it looks like people have had enough of your evil ways and taking action. Please read the latest newspaper posting just prior to this posting.

NOTE: Keep in mind after this posting, some Wal-Mart lovers will post that I am crazy, or some insulting posts, but I will keep posting the truth here.

God Will Give Me Victory! Praise Him!

..It's all making sense now.

If it was a sit-in deli, why didn't you pay for the food there? Maybe that's why Wal-mart had you arrested for stealing. You didn't pay at the place of purchase. Maybe the cashier didn't ring up the items, because they were supposed to be paid for in the deli.

It's all making sense now.

I wish you the best of luck.... I suggest fighting the charges!!!!!

I suggest fighting the charges. DO NOT PLEAD GUILTY. TAKE IT TO TRIAL. YOU CAN BE YOUR OWN ATTORNEY. DON'T FALL FOR THE .....Assistant District Attorney's lies.

They have to prove that you stole the item. Let them produce the tape. The empty food carton.

I am not an attorney. I can tell you that it takes a lot for a jury to convict. I saw first hand how someone was bullied into taking a plea. She excerised her constitutional right to a jury trial. The jury could not reach a verdict. The state motioned for dismissal. It was so bad that the investigator was coaching the Assistant District Attorney (ADA) on questions to ask. Quite a few jury members had looks on their face that suggested that they were mad about fiviorous nature of the case.

Your son can testify that what transpired with the cashier. You can Subpeona the cashier and tape record as to what was purchased on that time and date. File motions to dismiss etc.

I would suggest going Pro se.

As for Walmart. I buy less and less from them. I never ever go into their store with anything in my pockets. I always save receipts. I do not trust over zealous security personnel. They get bored and imaginate things to accuse customers of. I think everyone needs to take steps to protect themselves from these bullies.

Remember that people see and hear what they want.

there is no such law

There is no such law in place.

If authorities (that means police and fbi) dont consier a kidnapping a kidnapping unless the person has been missing for "less than" 24-36 hours, why would 3 minutes be considered kidnapping?

Unwillfully detained, but that is not illegal.

whatever

The whole point of this post is for the guy to get his rocks off seeing how many people he can get involved in this stupid and most likely made up post.

I had advised people to stop responding so that the thread dies and buddy here cant get his rocks off driving everyone crazy.

Did it ever dawn on anyone else that this is what the post was really about? Or do you really think the guy is this stupid? Would you be this stupid as to believe its all about jesus and getting jacked around from walmart?

He no doubt doesnt either.

It saddens me even more that ripoff report allows these RIDICULOUS posts to continue where there is obvious brain damage and no value to consumers here.

It tarnishes everyone else who has legitimate complaints as they wont be taken as seriously because of idiot posts like this.

stop replying to the post -and buddy will eventually quit his immature behaviour.

Get a life

Todd,

Let me spell out for you what everyone is saying but you aren't getting. You're a loser. Put your disabled ass in your hummingbird and drive down to a church and ask them for help. They will nod their head sympathetically but generally they will resent your inability to accept responsibility but maybe they will offer a free meal where Walmart did not.

Help us out, crawl onto an ice flow like Inuit's do so polar bears can eat you and you will no longer a burden to the village. I am tired of paying taxes for your “disability”. I am tired of being accosted by your self-righteous indignation that you are owed. You owe us for supporting your tired disabled ass. So shut up, turn on NASCAR, grab a Bud and put us out of your misery. If Jesus saves he should have saved himself. He hasn't done much for you either.

Gee Todd, I guess you're right

Or maybe, they are closing the deli because it isn't profitable. It's hard to make a profit when people like you wander around stealing the products they are trying to sell.

As for Maryland, don't worry. The Governor rightfully vetoed the bill. It's not a company's responsibility to make sure everyone has health insurance. That idiotic bill only covered Wally World...no other company at all was required to do anything.

Shouldn't you be in jail by now?

I understand it's kidnapping if held 3 minutes

Somewhere I read that if a store detains a customer for over 3 minutes and the customer is found not guilty of shoplifting, etc., federal law says it is kidnapping and there is a serious fine charged the store. Does anyone know of this law?

This coming from someone who was arrested for SHOPLIFTING!

"You are watching to many movies. A kidnapping can be reported at anytime, and the police are to take action right then. If your statement is correct, then the "Amber Alert" is made-up."

No, the Amber Alert is there because its concerns a REAL kidnapping. Being DeTAINED by a store because they caught you shoplifting is not kidnapping. IN any definition of the word.

So, if the police "ask" you to come down to the station, and didn't ARrEST you, just to ask questions, and keep you there for 6 hours and you want to leave, is that KIDNAPPING? no. it isn't. YOU are being detained.

The security of the store can DETAIN you (and put you under citizens arrest, which is recognized by law in this country) until the real authorities arrive. In your case they did. They held you until the police could come pick you up.

Dont think that your situation meets the criteria of a kidnapping, because it all DEFINITIONS of the word, you weren't.

You're neither a lawyer, or a police officer, TODD (and I use Todd lightly since you stated you are not Todd), so we can assume that your pseudo legal "wranglings" are as bull as this report you've posted.

Again, Walmart SEcurity detained you until the real police arrived because you were suspected of shoplifting, and arrested for that crime. NO kidnapping was involved, since YOUR wife knew where you were at all times, before the police arrived.

Todd wrote:
NOTE: I have conducted much research on many other Wal-Mart postings on Rip Off Report and I have discovered many of the same "insulting and Wal-Mart Lovers" that try to "flood" this post, they do the something to other posts. These people are nothing more than to cause harm to the post that tell the true story."

Yes its a conspiracy against consumers that walmart employees must now defend on ripoffreport.com their company, when its clear that hte consumer was in the wrong; that the ONLY people who would respond to these reports are walmart employees oro related in someway to walmart

Not only are you delusional Todd, you are in need of some heavy medication.

I hope that Walmart rules againt you, and asks for LEGAL and punitive damages.

Denny... It shows how much you know about the law...

Denny's post: "kidnapping unless the person has been missing for "less than" 24-36 hours".

You are watching to many movies. A kidnapping can be reported at anytime, and the police are to take action right then. If your statement is correct, then the "Amber Alert" is made-up. Every TRUE-criminal investigator knows that the "hot-time" is within the first 24 hours, and close to the place of the crime. If an investigator waited 24-36 hours, the leads of the investigation would become "cold". So, by your statement, you are not a TRUE investigator and most likely just one of those Wal-Mart lovers coming onto Rip Off Report, just to insult the postings to decay the out-cry of wrongs and evils that Wal-Mart is doing.

NOTE: I have conducted much research on many other Wal-Mart postings on Rip Off Report and I have discovered many of the same "insulting and Wal-Mart Lovers" that try to "flood" this post, they do the something to other posts. These people are nothing more than to cause harm to the post that tell the true story.

We now know who you are, and ignore your posting. People are growing to know the truth, and will not even read your insulting remarks.

Now, others know that you are not any Police or Investigator. Most likely a paid Wal-Mart manager trying to close down people that speak the truth of the matter.

God Will Give Me Victory! The Truth Will Be Known!

Bye for now.

More Research Has Been Conducted…

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More research has been conducted into some of these "insulters" as I will now address them. It seems like some of them maybe college kids or in school. Because usually around the Holidays, whenever school is out at long periods, there is no postings from them. Plus, most of their postings are meaningless, and just use anger, insults, speaking of wrath, and so on.

Their goal, it seems, to flood the original post and not allow any creditable post to be noticed. If a reader will look back at all of the posts in this thread, (at least 210 pages worth), the reader will conclude that whenever someone post an educated posting, these "insulters" flood around the educated posting, in hopes no one will see the educated posting, to be able to read the educated posting.

For an example, do a simple search on Rip Off Report, say for Wal-Mart. Then click into the many postings, and the reader will soon discover, the same research that I have learned. Which proves that these "insulters" flood the various postings, in order to disrupt the purpose of the original posting.

Many common starting points of these "insulters" responses, will begin by stating that they were going to post a complaint about the company, but instead became offended by the original post, and therefore, instead insult the original posting. After reading over many threads, it became apparent that the same language and grammar structuring was similar to the others. Thus, allowing me to conclude it was the same person, or the same group of people.

These "insulters", in which I tend to believe, is only one person with many logon names, posing as multiple people, so in order to support their "insulting" responses.

The other goal of these "insulters" is to keep the "frenzy" going. This objective by the "insulters" is to confuse the original posting author and educated readers. Out of all of these (responsive) postings on this thread, only about 20% would be usable. The rest is out numbered by these useless "insulters" responses; that curse, use insulting remarks, fowl language, improper replies, uneducated levels of suggestions, et.

Reading over the rules of Rip Off Report, these "insulters" have violated the laws of this website. But as the original author, that is okay. Because this research will provide the educated reader the understanding that many of these insane responses are nothing more than ruffles in the wind.

An educated reader, and I have found a few, that have responded to these "insulters". That these educated readers that responded to these "insulters", have discovered the "insulters" blistering objectives and have "put-them-in-their-place". For this, I solute you far a job well done.

Together, we will continue to communicate effectively and in hopes to improve our lives. This website is one of many focal-points to begin that processes. I am well aware of large companies paying off governments, which produce no justice. But a change is in the making. This Christian Nation, is founding by the PEOPLE, and for the PEOPLE. It is WE the people that can change any law. Can make Justice righteousness, clean up the problems. I use to be one of those that said nothing, or very little if I did.

When God called me to these many fights, I was shocked at the problems. Now I am a voice, hopefully, my voice will join many other voices, which will become the "Trumpet Of Truth"! And begin the change. God said, from one "blood" He formed all the Nations. We can do it. Christians created this Nation, for all to live Freely. No Church Government, but a Christian Government. History proves this to be the fact.

Let us stand firm. Let us join together. Let us, speak out against the fraud. Against the Lies. Against the Wrongs. We need to bring Our Country back to the Christian teachings, and freedoms we once Had. We can do it. We must do it. This Nation has 86% Christian. I am not calling for a Church operated government, I am calling that Our Nation return to it's Christian Foundation. And let us, put a stop to all these wrongs being done. Let this website be the first to speak the Voice. Let this website be the spark that light shined bright for a clean Nation.

God Will Bring Us Victory!

Bye for now…
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If this is how Christians act...

I really don't care if Todd ate anything and didn't pay for it or did, whatever. If this is how 'Devout Christians' act then why would anybody what to be one.

I am a Christian but I don't think that God really cares that you are fighting Walmart. I believe he has others things in the world that are really more important, you know, wars, hunger, people blowing other people up. That is where the real evil is. I just don't think Walmart is evil enough for God to care.

I know I came into this late in the game but this, to me, is interesting.

Please, Todd, don't come after me calling me some satan thing or quoting scriptures. I have read the bible, I know what it says.

Is it wrong or not

I am wondering with all of this reading if it was really wrong or not on the particular incident in question.

While taking something first and especially with the intent not to pay is for sure without a doubt stealing, (but we now know he was intending to pay for it and did) there have been a couple of people speaking up in this thread and saying he was not in the wrong.

One lady spoke up who apparently lives in the south and said that many places down there allow you to eat and then take the bill to the cashier afterwards. And even an ex-employee said that was their policy to allow people to not only eat from the deli and pay for food when they check out but eat or drink other things in the store while they shop, hang on to the bag or bottle and pay for it when they check out. Even a manager had told people to do that according to him.

So if it is Store policy to allow this to happen, is he not in his right to do just that?

Now I am from the north but it seems not to long ago we had resturants mainly all you can eat places that pretty much sat you down and tell you go get your plate eat what you want and then we give you the check and you take it to the cash register and pay. Matter of fact we got a couple of places like that today, so what is the difference I ask?

If that is there policy to allow this to happen just as it is Wal-mart policy to allow people to eat in the deli and pay for it later what is the difference? He was doing what he is told to do and it is acceptable.

Seems like he is faced with one of those situations where the top man in the company comes up to him and says yes eat all you want and pay for it when done. So he goes aheads and eats all he wants and then pays for it when he is done. Then starts to walk out and the top man comes to him and says you ate first with out paying first and he says well you told me I could, and the top man says yea I did but I just changed the rules a couple of seconds ago. Wow how fair is that.
Stupid I know but you see the point.

Most of us would never do anything that is wrong Christian or not, but getting permission ahead of time in this case store policy that allows costumers to eat now and pay later is ok in my book. In otherwards if they the store says we are ok with that, it is our rule and our policy then they can not turn around and accuse him of doing it later. and neither should any of us.

As far as the Christian side of things God wants us to stand up for what is right and not love the evil of this world. As far as; is it wrong for Todd to go on and on about being a Christian and Christian things proberly not, it is never wrong for a true Born Again Believer to talk of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

Jesus said: Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. Matthew 10:32 KJV
Maybe some of us do not do it enough. And remember I did say True Born Again Christians, there are some that claim to be Christians and feel they maybe just that, but are not true Born Again Believers according to the Bible. Only God truly knows what is in your heart, that is not for us to judge as has been said here in this post.

However I will say there is a difference between judging a person which is wrong and letting them know the truth which the bible presents to us. God gave us the Great Commision:
18And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

19Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

20Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen. Matthew 28 18-20

God does not want us to judge but to teach, show people what He as written in His Word, so it is important that people know the difference. and you will only know the difference if you read the word of God
2nd Timothy says:
15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.

And it sems like verse 16 may apply here also as it seems there is alot going on here back and forth about who is or is not a Christian. Again only God knows who is or is not. He certainly does not like or approve of alot of arguing and carrying on back and forth.

As far as Todd goes, If he is a True Born Again Believer of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ (and I believe he is) then the Lord will see him through all of this, rather it is to prove something later, have a stronger testimony, make him a stronger Christian, or any number of other reasons. Some of this here could be as pointed out helping others to see what is happening in this world. We do not know all of the reasons behind this but it is for sure something will come of all of this.

It is a safe bet to say that this will come out exactly how the Lord wants this to come out. Rather we think it was the right way or the wrong way, it was the Lord's way.

I proberly will not say any more on this unless I feel really compelled to do so. but I wish Todd the best in how any of this turns out. And as somewhat pointed out by scripture already. The wrong doers of this world will get what is coming to them, if not on this earth then in Heaven at the judgement day.

Pay first

I am an ex-employee with Walmart and I used to see cases like this all the time and it really bothered me then and now. We teach our kids not to take anything that does not belong to us, but yet adults do the opposite.
I have always felt that anything in the store is not mine until I purchase it, which means, you should not consume or use anything until you have paid for it. IT IS NOT YOURS, UNTIL YOU PAY FOR IT!! You are stealing. Also, as a Christian, we have rules to go by as well..."Thou shalt not steal"..We all have rules to go by and some things are common sense. I feel this is one of those things. You don't get gas from a gas station, pull off and ride all the gas out, then come back and pay. You don't even go to a restaurant, eat that morning and come back later on that day and pay.
Now, I'm not questioning Todd's integrity because there are many people(diabetes for example) who have circumstances where they have to eat for health reasons, but then those people have gotten store associates to assist them. This was not the case here, it seems.
You have to realize that although your intentions were good, not everyone's are, and sometimes the good have to suffer with the bad. I don't agree with how the situation was handled at all, but I do think you could have avoided the whole thing if you had paid for your items first and then ate.

pay first, then eat

I'm sorry this happened to you. You sound like a good Christian man and very honest. But technically, if you eat the food first then you have stolen the food for a brief period of time before you pay for it. The food is not yours until you pay for it, it is still Walmart's property. Just pay for the food first from now on and this won't happen.

DILLIGAF??

First of all, let me just say that if Todd were in my class, the other Kindergarteners would laugh at him . But he does get an S for Satisfactory on his imagination.Although, his conduct gets a U! Unsatisfactory. I lost about 4 hours ,not all in one day, of trying to give some merit to his story.I was hoping that just maybe, he wasn't lying.I have come to the conclusion that rooting for the underdog is sometimes wasted energy.But what do I know..I'm only in Kindergarten.Tallest in my class too!
Lol, good luck with you life ,Todd. I bet people believe I am in Kindergarten as much as thy believe you didn't swipe that "sammich" and hightail it to the exit using your disability and your childs incontinence as a shield.
HAHA!

I just had to respond.

I have always taught my daughter, "It's not yours until you pay for it".

I am amazed at the amount of people I see in stores opening packages and eating the contents before they get to the register. Parents open things and feed it to their kids to keep them calmed down while shopping. You are teaching them the rule of "you can use it as long as you mean to pay for it", later translated by them as, "you can borrow your friend's toys without permission, as long as you mean to give them back".

Let's teach our kids that things in stores are not theirs until it is paid for! Remember good old morals, ethics, etc. Many kids these days do not have them. Maybe if we, as parents, took a little extra time teaching our kids right from wrong, even the smallest lessons will make a big difference. Everyone knows you are not supposed to consume food in a grocery store until you pay for it. The management at grocery stores should not have to watch you eat your food, follow you around the store, then make sure you have paid for it. And why should they just trust you to pay for it?

If you are in a store and thirsty, select a beverage, go to the register, pay for it, then drink it while the receipt is wrapped around the bottle. Same with food. It may take a few more minutes out of your day, but for your children it is one valuable lifetime lesson they will remember and hopefully follow.

Clairetta surmonizes and loses

Clairetta, what does judge moore and the illegal display of the Ten Commandments on public property have anythbing to do with Todd's thievery and lying?

Surmonizing isn't going to prove todd innocent, only FACTs Will. He will have swear upon the bible in court, to tell the truth, yet he's been shown to be a liar here, in his various responses.

Clairetta, he wont be victorious over this. He's already demonized himself, and dug a hole so deep, that even devil can't throw this soul out of hell.

Judge Roy Moore Was Attacked for Not Removing Ten Commandments

So those of you who don't believe Christians are attacked, why would a judge be removed from the bench just because he wouldn't take down the Ten Commandments in his courtroom? Is it just possible something unforward is happening to our country?

Below is a summary of what happened to him, and how the state where he lives is also trying to end his attorney career. There is also a poem written by him, which shows the true state of our country regarding how we are, definitely, losing our freedoms.

I am neither supporting nor denying what happened to or with Todd, I am only making it available for you to keep an open mind to the possibilty someone could be attacked for having their beliefs. To my knowledge, according to our constitutional rights, he, as well as others, have been treated wrong, but nothing has been done to change this.

Yesterday, I bought a book of the great artist of our time, Norman Rockwell. In it, I found four of his well known pictures. Freedom from Fear, Freedom from Want, Freedom of Worship, Freedom of Speech. I had not intended to buy this book. A friend took me to a thrift store where I found it sitting right out in the open where I couldn't miss it. I didn't need it. I already have two books quite like it. It was the pictures I wanted, which I will frame to remind my household how we Americans need to remember who we are and our rights.

I also received the following the very same day. Coincidence? In my opinion, no. I believe we are being told something that we need to take stock in. With that for you to feed your mind, here is what I received.

HERE IS A FOLLOW UP TO THE JUDGE THAT REFUSED TO REMOVE THE 10 COMMANDMENT FROM HIS COURTROOM

The following is a poem written by Judge Roy Moore from Alabama. Judge Moore was sued by the ACLU for displaying the Ten Commandments in his courtroom foyer. He has been stripped of his judgeship and now they are trying to strip his right to practice law in Alabama. The judge's poem sums it up quite well.

America the Beautiful,
or so you used to be.
Land of the Pilgrims' pride;
I'm glad they'll never see.

Babies piled in dumpsters,
Abortion on demand,
Oh, sweet land of liberty;
your house is on the sand.

Our children wander aimlessly
poisoned by cocaine,
Choosing to indulge their lusts,
when God has said abstain.

From sea to shining sea,
our Nation turns away
From the teaching of God's love
and a need to always pray.

We've kept God in our temples,
how callous we have grown.
When earth is but His footstool,
and Heaven is His throne.

We've voted in a government
that's rotting at the core,
Appointing Godless Judges
who throw reason out the door,

Too soft to place a killer
in a well deserved tomb,
But brave enough to kill a baby
before he leaves the womb.

You think that God's not angry,
that our land's a moral slum?
How much longer will He wait
before His judgment comes?

How are we to face our God,
from Whom we cannot hide?
What then is left for us to do,
but stem this evil tide?

If we who are His children,
will humbly turn and pray;
Seek His holy face
and mend our evil way:

Then God will hear from Heaven
and forgive us of our sins,
He'll heal our sickly land
and those who live within.

But, America the Beautiful,
if you don't - then you will see,
A sad but Holy God
withdraw His hand from Thee.

~Judge Roy Moore

Please tell me, did Judge Moore deserve to be removed from the bench because he stood upon the principles of our forefathers who fought for our country's freedoms?

Is it just possible that Todd was treated unfairly? Do some deep soul searching before answering.

Todd, I have read your many posts, and I have this to say. In the event you ever do get some kind of finish to your case, it will be interesting to find what happens. But know this, if a judge can be removed for his beliefs and refusal to remove the Ten Commandments from his courtroom, what can happen in your situation?

I am not saying God is or is not on your side. I just want you to be aware of what you are really up against.

I will not respond to any posts from this point, although I will be reading where this all finally ends. My only purpose for posting this is to bring it to other's attention what is happening to our country and why. Think on these things.

It will be interesting to see if Todd is victorious or loses, but with his believing, I would venture to say, maybe victorious?

Denny and Other Insulters... Take this as a Warning!

This is my final warning for you to stop replying "insulting responses" to my posting. You and your other "insulting" postings has violated the rules of this website, and I am going to request that your "REPLY postings" be deleted.

If you continue to post your insults, I will file a complaint with the owner of Rip Off Report to ban you from ever having access to this site again. This request to ban you, will include your IP/TCP, MAC address, and ISP linkage… (I am sure you have no idea what I am talking about).

I have researched you and other "insulters" and see where you have "flooded" many other postings on this website! This site is for people to come and express what happen to them and for others to help each other.

This site is not for some "lack of morals and spoiled teenager", to insult people that have wished to post what happen to them.

This website was developed for people to tell others what happen to them in the way they wish to. And it is a violation of their freedom for you to come in and flood their posting with your insults. I am sure you are one of those "internet-bullies" that has no formation of responsibility and never was taught the proper manners of respecting others. I am sure you are the generation only out for yourself, and to destroy everyone else.

So take this as the last warning. Do Not Reply To My Posting Again, with your INSULTS! And even if Rip Off Report does nothing, but I am sure they will, everyone else that are reading this post will just ignore your "rude-remarks" anyway.

Hi Everyone... I Have A Better Plan To Expose The "Insulters"...

Hi Everyone!

I have a better plan, rather than just filing a complaint with Rip Off Report on these "insulters".

Since Rip Off Report is for us good folks to post those that has harmed us in the "Real-World", lets use Rip Off Report to post those who have harmed us in the "Cyber-World" as well.

I have started a posting called: "Wal-Mart "Lovers And Insulters" - Flooding Rip Off Report Postings... Wal-Mart "Lovers And Insulters" Everyone Can Post The Names Of the "Insulters" and Wal-Mart "Lovers" Here... Columbia South Carolina"

This is where we can come together and post these "insulters" and Wal-Mart "lovers", so everyone can discover what is really going on.

I will be posting much of the research as to where I discovered many of these "insulters" post on others peoples postings, and it seems to be the same people using "bogus" names.

The point of this, is to at least let us know who are real posters and who are nothing more than "trouble-makers", which try to "bully" us from express the truths of what happen to us.

Let me know what you think.

Bye for now...

God Bless, And He Will Give Me Victory!

PS. Clarita (if that is your real name), I enjoyed reading your reply about the Ten Commandments, very good posting. I have Judge Roy's book and read it often! It is very wrong what they did to him and I saw him cry when they took him down in that courthouse.

I know of some other court cases that I know he would be very interested in knowing. We must join forces and bring this country back to where it was formed.

I have done much research, and this is a Christian Nation! Everything to do with the development of Our Great Nation, was and is Christian! Below is some samples:

1. The Star-Spangled Banner: (Last verse) "And this be our motto: "In God is our trust!"

2. National Anthem: (Last verse) "Our fathers' God, to Thee, Author of Liberty, To Thee we sing;... Protect us by Thy might, Great GOD, our KING!!!!"

3. First Nation's ORDER: "Make THANKSGIVING a day to BLESS THE LORD, GOD ALMIGHTY"

4. First President's Speech: "This country was formed by the HAND OF THE ALMIGHTY (GOD)"

5. Main Government Buildings: "In GOD We Trust"

6. Nation's Money: "In GOD We Trust"

7. Legal Foundation: "Reflection of the BIBLE"

Anyone that claims this is not a Christian Nation, is not of this Nation and is a LIAR to themselves! The historical documents that are the foundation of this Great Nation, honors the fact that this is a CHRISTIAN NATION, and having GOD as Our King!

The Separation of Church and State is there to prevent any CHURCH GOVERNMENT! It is not there to REMOVE the very foundations and ERASE the historic placement of GOD within this country! WE THE PEOPLE, control this country, and WE THE PEOPLE can remove any JUDGE, ANY GOVERNMENT, ANYTHING... In fact, the very Declaration of Independent, tells us, it is OUR DUTY, to make sure the FOUNDATIONS of our NATION are not taken away from us.

All three Founding Documents, Declaration of Independence, Constitution and Bill of Rights, reflects and states reference to GOD, LORD, ALMIGHTY!!!

AND, most of the movie stars, news media, and loud-mouths screaming to remove the "CHRISTIAN" out of Our Country, are not even from our Nation... Most of them are out of Canada, and are born from the British Loyalty, that were pushed up into Canada by Washington's Army in 1776! These British Loyal wish nothing more than to see Our Great Nation crumble. WE NEED TO BRING our country back. Look how the CHILDREN are being treated. Little children are bringing guns to school and killing other little children! Drugs are heavy in children. Sex is heavy in children. They are being taught that they mean nothing, they are a formation of a one cell-blob, that will go nowhere, and it is those who eat the others before you get eaten, live.

I was one of the last generations that use to have prayer and saying the WHOLE National Anthem in Public School, before it was taken away by a group of "Six-Men" dressed in BLACK!

WE NEED to bring our country back to where it came from. I am not talking about all that evil slave stuff! Actually, that was brought in by those greedy dutch and British anyway. I am talking about the foundation of the CHRISTIAN Nation!

Our voices are the two-edged sword! Use it!

"Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people" (Proverbs 14:34).

Make this as a note: Last year's (2005) will be nothing (WEATHER, Other Troubles), to this year (2006), if we do not BRING GOD back to Our Country. I tell you the truth, you will see each year growing worse and worse if we do not REPENT and CLEAN up this mess. Mark these words and come back at the begining of next year (2007) and tell me I was wrong. We will see. I pray for us.
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Whoa Nelly...

Todd, you are really creeping me out with all this. My wonderful Daddy is a Southern Baptist minister, and even he doesn't walk around spewing forth this jibberish. AND NO, I am NOT a Satanist - I'm a Christian as well - but good grief, you are sounding like a televangelist here - and not in a good way. Wasn't this supposed to be about WAL MART? I think this has gotten WAAAAY out of hand - and more than a little bizarre. It's frightening that when I was stationed at Ft. Jackson, you were very close by; surprised I didn't see any burning bushes, lol.

But if this keeps YOU entertained...

Another classic "Todd" post

Yup.

once again, Todd doesn't address the questions put forth and is on a sermon preeching bible thumping post.

Notice the pattern folks?

When asked, or questioned, Todd starts preeching.

When shown to be liar, Todd then threatens everyone.

Now, after this post, Todd will no 'threaten' and follow up with another sermon.

And again, avoid the question that was put forth many times;

HOW GOES YOUR CASE WITH WALMART TODD? WHAT:S THE CASE NUMBER?

(Table-of-Truth): "Spammers" "Insulters" and "Flooders" Beware!..

How can I update the case when the court has not even happen yet! You are just trying to flood the issues that I bring to the "Table of Truth"!

Here is some information for you, "Spammers", "Insulters", and "Flooders". Beware! Good people that really care about issues and communicate to one another are getting very angry over you "insulters" causing us trouble. Read what is happening to you!

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AOL Wins 5M Judgment Against Spammer

By MATTHEW BARAKAT, Associated Press Writer 26January 2006
ALEXANDRIA, Va. - A man who sent billions of junk e-mails hawking online college degrees, sexually explicit Web sites and "generic Viagra" must pay more than $5 million in penalties to America Online, a federal judge ruled.
Christopher William Smith, of Prior Lake, Minn., was considered one of the world's worst spammers, operating under the name Rizler. He is now in jail in Minnesota awaiting trial on criminal charges that he violated federal drug laws while operating an online pharmacy.
On Tuesday U.S. District Judge Claude Hilton issued a summary judgment against Smith ordering him to pay $5.3 million in damages and $287,000 in legal fees to AOL, which filed a civil suit against Smith under the Can-Spam act.
AOL spokesman Nicholas Graham said Smith "was the poster child for the Can-Spam Act," which Congress enacted in 2004 to crack down on unsolicited junk e-mail.

"This is someone we've been pursuing for three years," Graham said. "It's one of the largest judgments we've received."

Hilton issued a summary judgment in favor of Dulles-based AOL after Smith "refused to participate in this case, willfully disregarding ... discovery obligations and failing to comply with multiple court orders," according to the judge's order.

Court records show that Smith's lawyers withdrew from the case several months after it was filed.
In addition to e-mails promoting generic Viagra and pornographic Web sites, Smith also advertised cable TV descramblers and penis enhancement pills.

In an initial response to AOL's lawsuit, Smith's lawyers denied wrongdoing and questioned the constitutionality of the Can-Spam law.
Graham said that AOL has won tens of millions of dollars in judgments against more than 30 spammers under the federal law and a similar Virginia law.

America Online, Inc. is a subsidiary of Time Warner Inc.

I will never shop In a walmart

If, this Is how walmart really acts then I am never shopping their again If walmart has a history of fasely accusing people of shoplifting then why would you want to shop @ a place like that, nobody has the right to fasely accuse anyone!. I, will not shop @ a walmart If this Is how they treat people I never had any problems In walmart myself, but I will go somewhere else to shop If this Is the way walmart does business & I will never work @ any walmart after how they wrongful terminate people just like how they treat their custormers, buy fasely accuse them of shoplifting!. I, will never shop In a walmart again!.

Ouch.

Even though I haven't been in a similar situation, I can say this:

If this really is true, then I do feel sorry for you.

'Nuff said.

I have learned most of these LPs and Wal-Mart managers (not all), are uneducated bullies

Just like a "bully": insulting everyone, flooding the communication, and screaming at everyone… Most important: "you never learned how to spell, read or write properly."

That's why you did not read all my postings; otherwise you would know the purpose of my post.

I have learned most of these LPs and Wal-Mart managers (not all), are uneducated bullies, and whenever they see good people with families shopping, they get angry and create ways to cause the good folks harm. (Mistreatment, false imprisonment, false arrest, et al.) And Wal-Mart HQ enjoys it, because they can cash in on about $6,500 per family member mistreated!

That is the purpose of my postings! To expose the wrongdoing! Can you read that? Instead you keep trying to confuse people by stating "the way I write" is my purpose. But you are wrong, because you never read my postings. If you did, you would know what my purpose was and see the how I write it! I can tell you must have dropped out of school, because one of the first things taught in English 101, is to read a book or poem and write a report on the two issues, purpose and method of the writer. Du!

"Ahhh.. What'z Up Doc? Uhh.. Duuu… which way did he go George… Duuuu…"

(Little old cartoon joke).

Here are some corrections for you!

Jibberish = GIBBERISH (unintelligible talking) "Who is talking unintelligible here?"

Preeching = PREACHING (an address of a religious nature) "Yeah, I can say many, if not all my postings have this at its core. Don't like it, go somewhere else!"

I must correct myself, if you are a college student, then you must have paid off someone to do your homework! Ha!

It is interesting that non-Christian keep trying to tell us Christian how we should live like Christians. That is so ludicrous.
Ludicrous (broadly or extravagantly humorous) "Defined just for you bullies." :)

It's not spam unless it is unsolicited email

It's not spam unless it is unsolicited emails - sent to your personal email address. This is a public forum, and what is posted here is at the discretion of the site owner and/or moderator. So unless someone here is sending spam to your personal email address, your point is null and void.

I still sincerely doubt your story. Your story has changed, and anytime someone questions you you come back with insults and religious tirades. It's great to live for God, and great to share scripture and have religious discussion and debate. But WalMart did not choose you because you are a Christian. How could they even know that you were a Christian unless you were walking around with a Bible in your hand and quoting scripture. Besides that, do you mean to say that you were the only Christian in the store that day? Or were there many people harrassed that day?

Also, while I don't doubt WalMart's slimy tactics in general, I still don't think there is a conspiracy against the Christians of the nation. And everything else you have written on here has been so completely off topic it's incredible.

And by the way, does everyone remember this guy said that he wasn't really the one this happened to anyway? What else has he not been completely honest about? Oh, that must be why he answers every question with an insult and religious ramblings. To avoid really answering any questions.

You "Insulters" Know Nothing About Christians…

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You "Insulters" know nothing about True Christians and how we do our best to help the World (people) find the right path. Here is some information I bet you never knew… This information is why my generation was one of the last, if not the last "respectful and loving" generation. Why? Because, every morning in "public school" we said the Lord's Prayer, said the "Whole National Anthem" and watch character building and loving television shows. Not these "kill your brother", "fight till you drop", "what drugs are in your pocket", "who is a homo" or "witch craft is good"!

My generation watched shows like "Captain Kangaroo" and "Mr. Rogers". Something interesting about the people that operated these shows, read the information below.

This is some reach another investigator sent me… enjoy!

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Some very interesting and little know facts about some celebrities..............

You Might Not Ever Guess
Captain Kangaroo passed away on January 23, 2004 as age 76 , which is odd, because he always looked to be 76. (DOB: 6/27/27.) His death reminded me of the following story.
Some people have been a bit offended that the actor, Lee Marvin, is buried in a grave alongside 3 and 4 star generals at Arlington National Cemetery. His marker gives his name, rank (PVT) and service (USMC). Nothing else. Here's a guy who was only a famous movie star who served his time, why the heck does he rate burial with these guys? Well, following is the amazing answer:

I always liked Lee Marvin, but didn't know the extent of his Corps experiences.
In a time when many Hollywood stars served their country in the armed forces often in rear echelon posts where they were carefully protected, only to be trotted out to perform for the cameras in war bond promotions,

Lee Marvin was a genuine hero. He won the Navy Cross at Iwo Jima. There is only one higher Naval award... the Medal Of Honor. If that is a surprising comment on the true character of the man, he credits his sergeant with an even greater show of bravery.

Dialog from "The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson": His guest was Lee Marvin. Johnny said, "Lee, I'll bet a lot of people are unaware that you were a Marine in the initial landing at Iwo Jima...and that during the course of that action you earned the Navy Cross and were severely wounded."

"Yeah, yeah... I got shot square in the bottom and they gave me the Cross for securing a hot spot about halfway up Suribachi. Bad thing about getting shot up on a mountain is guys getting' shot hauling you down. But,Johnny, at Iwo I served under the bravest man I ever knew... We both got the cross the same day, but what he did for his Cross made mine look cheap in comparison. That dumb guy actually stood up on Red beach and directed his troops to move forward and get the hell off the beach. Bullets flying by, with mortar rounds landing everywhere and he stood there as the main target of gunfire so that he could get his men to safety. He did this on more than one occasion because his men's safety was more important than his own life.

That Sergeant and I have been lifelong friends. When they brought me off Suribachi we passed the Sergeant and he lit a smoke and passed it to me, lying on my belly on the litter and said, where'd they get you Lee?' Well Bob... if you make it home be fore me, tell Mom to sell the outhouse!"

Johnny, I'm not lying, Sergeant Keeshan was the bravest man I ever knew.

The Sergeant's name is Bob Keeshan. You and the world know him as Captain Kangaroo."

On another note, there was this wimpy little man (who just passed away) on PBS, gentle and quiet. Mr. Rogers is another of those you would least suspect of being anything but what he now portrays to our youth. But Mr. Rogers was a U.S. Navy Seal, combat-proven in Vietnam with over twenty-five confirmed kills to his name. He wore a long-sleeved sweater on TV, to cover the many tattoos on his forearm and biceps. He was a master in small arms and hand-to-hand combat, able to disarm or kill in a heartbeat.

After the war Mr. Rogers became an ordained Presbyterian minister and therefore a pacifist. Vowing to never harm another human and also dedicating the rest of his life to trying to help lead children on the right path in life. He hid away the tattoos and his past life and won our hearts with his quiet wit and charm. America's real heroes don't flaunt what they did; they quietly go about their day-to-day lives, doing what they do best. They earned our respect and the freedoms that we all enjoy.

Look around and see if you can find one of those heroes in your midst.

Often, they are the ones you'd least suspect, but would most like to have on your side if anything ever happened. Take the time to thank anyone that has fought for our freedom. With encouragement they could be the next Captain Kangaroo or Mr.Rogers

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Also go see that movie "End of the Spear". It's a true story and half the movie goes to help people.

Before I saw the movie I was always told by these "evolutionist" that it was "them" that got these people to move away from killing each other. Well, as I have learned in my research, what someone tells may not be the truth, so find out for yourself. That's why you should read the Bible for yourself and research the evidence to discover what is truth and what is a lie! Go see that movie, it also gives you an idea of living in a world like what the "evolusionist" want you to live in... "The stronger eats the weeker"!

I refuse to live in that kind of world, and history teaches that most do not either. Many just do not know how to get out, that is where good Christians come in. To show the way, even if the good Christians loose their lives in doing so. None of this "blow you up, you blow me up"... "it is a voice that moves the masses"!

Oh one last thing... Question to you "insulters"... which do you think people want to listen to... Here you insult someone with your garbage mouth? Or some real research that brings in issues of a concerning factor? Insulters do not really need to answer, because we already know what your uneducated reply will be… "*@#…" correct!

Bye for now...
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For you "insulters"… I put some misspelled words in that last post just for you.

HeeHaw!

Oh, please...

I'm not saying that Walmart is innocent in all this, because I'm sure they're guilty of poor customer service, but I also think that whatever sympathy or public support you could have potentially gotten was forfeited by your self-righteous, melodramatic attitude and selective memory regarding your own questionable actions in this matter.

It was easy for walmart to win

It was easy for walmart to win. This Is the same state where that crooked district attorney falsely accused those college kid's of that horrible crime but later where found not guilty. It, seem's In South Carolina people like to fasely accuse people of crime's & get away with it, walmart In South Carolina Is doing It. I, haven't posted to this report In a while It's amazing 2 year's later people are still replying to this report. Hell, why should walmart care for there custormer's they do not even treat there own employee's right not paying them like they should, well that Is one case that the court's did not rule In walmart's favor.

I Must Say I Am Sorry For The Mr. Rogers and Captain Kangaroo Posting...

I must say I am sorry for that posting... (Captain Kangaroo and Mr. Rogers) The person that sent it to me is a good friend and I thought they had checked the source, so I felt it was a good posting. But after a long chat with them, they wanted me to check the info. Either way, I am humble enough to say I am sorry.

I am sure the "insulters" will enjoy kicking me down because of this simple mistake. Have fun now, but I will keep up the fight!

A good blessing out of this, is the educated reader will see how wicked the "insulters" will be, but using this mistake to their advantage to insult me further. But a good heart knows we are not perfect, even Jesus himself ask, "Why do you call me good, there is only one that is good, and the is GOD"!

With that said, I am sorry to you good readers (not the insulters), if my mistake has caused you harm. But I am sure you are stronger than that, and will know I have a good heart and know what the purpose of this posting is all about.

Additionally, the scam email about Captain Kangaroo and Mr. Rogers, shows how twisted the wicked can be in their "lies" and is the same kind of evil I have been pointing at, ever since this post started... scam! Wal-Mart has employees that "scam" customers and drop false charges on them. Other scams are those "get-rich-quick" things. And I am sure some people have seen those bogus emails about someone leaving millions in a bank and need you to help them and they will give you a percentage... all you have to do is pay the fee... I think the FBI calls it "fee-scam" or something.

I hope Jesus returns quickly, I am very tired of all these scams, lying, murdering, insulters, and so on. But until then, I will enjoy the good things that God has blessed me with. Such as my family, nature and life itself. Praise God! Let the wicked destroy themselves! But I will not let them destroy me or the inocent... thats a promise!

Here is the research on the BOGUS email... The people that "dreamed up" such lies about two great Children entertainers should burn in the fire, unless they repent. It would be interesting if the source of the bogus story came from the "spammer" that is now serving 30 years and a mulity million dallar sancation agianst him now... I wonder.

===Real Research=== (it started in 2002)

Captain Kangaroo Court

Claim: Lee Marvin, actor, and Bob Keeshan, television's "Captain Kangaroo," fought together at Iwo Jima.

Status: Multiple:

* Actor Lee Marvin fought in the Pacific theater during World War II, received a Purple Heart, and is buried in Arlington National Cemetery: True.

* Lee Marvin and Bob Keeshan, television's "Captain Kangaroo," fought together in the battle for Iwo Jima: False.

Origins: The above-quoted bit of purported dialog from the Tonight Show does have some elements of truth to it, but although actor Lee Marvin was a guest on that late-night talk show at least seven times during Carson's tenure as host, most of what is reproduced above is an outright fiction or a transcript based on someone's badly flawed memory.

Lee Marvin did enlist in the U.S. Marines, saw action as Private First Class in the Pacific during World War II, and was wounded (in the buttocks) by fire which severed his sciatic nerve. However, his injury occurred during the battle for Saipan in June 1944, not the battle for Iwo Jima, which took place several months later in February 1945. Marvin also received a Purple Heart and was indeed interred at Arlington National Cemetery (but he was not, as some versions of this piece claim, awarded a Navy Cross).

Bob Keeshan, later famous as television's "Captain Kangaroo," also enlisted in the U.S. Marines, but he did so too late to see any action during World War II. Keeshan was born on 27 June 1927 and enlisted two weeks before his 18th birthday, several months after the fighting at Iwo Jima. In a 1997 interview, Keeshan explained that he "enlisted in the U.S. Marines but saw no combat" because he signed up "just before we dropped the atom bomb."

In 2003 someone thought to throw children's television host Fred Rogers into the mix by add the following bit to the existing e-mail about Lee Marvin and Bob Keeshan.

Numerous rumors about children's host Mr. Rogers having a violent or criminal past have been bandied about for years, but there is nothing to any of them. As our Mr. Rogers page explains, Fred Rogers never served in the military.

===Mr. ROgers===

Claim: Children's television show host Fred Rogers hid a violent and criminal past.

Status: False.

Origins: The
television world recently mourned the loss of Fred Rogers, the gentle and genial host who delivered lessons on love, kindness, and friendship to children for over 30 years on the television program Mister Rogers' Neighborhood. His show-opening "Won't You Be My Neighbor?" ditty, his daily on-camera donning of a cardigan sweater and comfortable shoes, and his tinkling Neighborhood Trolley were all familiar, reassuring icons to millions of children (and their parents).

Any popular, decent, clean-cut celebrity is fair game for all sorts of scurrilous rumors these days, it seems — we're either too cynical or too bored to accept that a kindly, soft-spoken man who made a career out of teaching and communicating with children as an adult — no funny costumes, no frenetic comedy gags, no sickly sweet "baby talk" — could possibly live up to his television image. He must be concealing some deep, dark secret antithetical to his public persona, and the variety of rumors floated about Mr. Rogers over the years certainly reflected that sentiment.

Among the more common of the Mr. Rogers-related urban legends are the following claims:

* Fred Rogers began his television career as a result of his being convicted of child molestation; one condition of his sentence was that he fulfill a community service obligation by performing a television show for children on a local public station. This circumstance explains the lack of children on his program and the presence of adult characters with suggestive names, such as Mr. McFeely

Given the protests and boycotts directed at Disney when it was revealed that Victor Salva, the writer-director of their 1995 film Powder (released through Disney's Hollywood Pictures subsidiary), had served time for child molestation, it stretches credulity to the breaking point to believe that the host of a children's program on public television could have remained in that position for thirty-three years without having been hounded off the air amidst howls of condemnation from thousands of outraged parents.

Fred Rogers got his start in television through his musical background when, after earning a bachelor's degree in music composition in 1951, he was hired by NBC television in New York to serve as an assistant producer (and later as a floor director) for several of the music-variety type programs (The Voice of Firestone, The Lucky Strike Hit Parade, The Kate Smith Hour) prevalent on TV in the early 1950s. A few years later, he returned to his hometown area to develop programming for WQED in Pittsburgh, the nation's first community-sponsored educational television station. One of the first programs he developed for WQED was The Children's Corner, which contained many of the elements and characters Fred Rogers would incorporate into his own show when he made his on-camera debut as host of Misterogers for the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation in 1963.

Aside from the difficulties of working with very young children on scripted television shows, the lack of children on Mister Rogers' Neighborhood was due simply to stylistic choice. Although some children's shows of the era featured youngsters who interacted with hosts on-camera, other shows (such as Sheriff John, my local favorite) opted to create the illusion of a one-to-one relationship between host and viewer by excluding children from the studio. The latter method allowed a host to establish a rapport with the youngsters in his viewing audience by appearing to be speaking to them directly, not to the other children on the screen with him.

As for Mr. McFeely, the grandfatherly character who runs the "Speedy Delivery Messenger Service" in Mister Rogers' neighborhood, his name is easily explained: 'McFeely' is also Fred Rogers' real middle name, taken from his grandfather, Fred Brooks McFeely.

* Fred Rogers served as a sniper or as a Navy Seal during the Vietnam War, with a large number of confirmed kills to his credit.

This same rumor has often been applied to boyish country singer-songwriter John Denver (among others), and it's just as false when told of Fred Rogers. Not only did Fred Rogers never serve in the military, there are no gaps in his career when he could conceivably have served in the military — he went straight into college after high school, he moved directly into TV work after graduating college, and his breaks from television work were devoted to attending the Pittsburgh Theological Seminary (he was ordained as a Presbyterian minister in 1963) and the University of Pittsburgh's Graduate School of Child Development. Moreover, Fred Rogers was born in 1928 and was therefore too old to have enlisted in the armed services by the time of America's military involvement in Vietnam.

* Fred Rogers always wore long-sleeved shirts and sweaters on his show to conceal the tattoos on his arms he obtained while serving in the military.

As noted above, Fred Rogers never served in the military, and he bore no tattoos on his arms (or any other part of his body). He wore long-sleeved shirts and sweaters on his show to maintain an air of formality — although he was friendly with the children in his viewing audience and talked to them on their own level, he was most definitely an authority figure on a par with parents and teachers (he was Mister Rogers to them, after all, not Fred), and his choice of dress was intended to establish and foster that relationship.

* Fred Rogers "flipped the bird" to his young audience during the taping of his final show in December 2000.

A widely-circulated photograph of Fred Rogers with extended middle finger is available on many Internet sites, but it's a digitally manipulated image, not a frame from a Mister Rogers' Neighborhood broadcast (and out of respect for Fred Rogers, we're not displaying it here).

Last updated: 28 February 2003

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Again, sorry to those good readers (not the insulters), I will try to "keep on my toes" the next time! :)

Todd..do your homework !!!

Todd
Do you believe everything sent to you on the internet?
The story you have printed about Lee Marvin, Bob Keeshan and Mr Rogers is a big internet farce and only partially true.

CLICK here to see why Rip-off Report, as a matter of policy, deleted either a phone number, link or e-mail address from this Report.

Lee Marvin and Bob Keeshan, television's "Captain Kangaroo," fought together in the battle for Iwo Jima: False.
Example: [Collected on the Internet, 2002]

Dialog from a Tonight Show... Johnny Carson...His guest was Lee Marvin.

Johnny said..."Lee, I'll bet a lot of people are unaware that you were a Marine in the initial landing at Iwo Jima...and that during the course of that action you earned the Navy Cross and were severely wounded."

And you know how Lee was..."Yeah, yeah...I got shot square in the ass and they gave me the Cross for securing a hot spot about halfway up Suribachi. Bad thing about getting shot up on a mountain is guys gettin' shot hauling you down. But Johnny at Iwo I served under the bravest man I ever knew...We both got the Cross the same day but what he did for his Cross made mine look cheap in comparison. The dumb bastard actually stood up on Red Beach and directed his troops to move forward and get the hell off the beach. That Sgt. and I have been life long friends...When they brought me off Suribachi we passed the Sgt. and he lit a smoke and passed it to me lying on my belly on the litter..."Where'd they get you Lee?"...."Well Bob...if you make it home before me, tell Mom to sell the outhouse."..... "Johnny, I'm not lying...Sgt. Keeshan was the bravest man I ever Knew - Bob Keeshan....

You and the world know him as Captain Kangaroo."

Variations: A later version of this piece included a tacked-on a prologue about Lee Marvin's burial in Arlington National Cemetery:
Many people have always been a bit offended that Lee Marvin is buried in a grove of 3 and 4 star generals at Arlington. His marker gives his name, rank (PVT) and service (USMC). Nothing else.

I thought to myself, damn here's a guy who was only a famous movie star who served his time, why the heck does he rate burial with these guys? Well, following is the amazing answer:

I always liked Lee Marvin, but did not know the extent of his Corps experiences. Including award of the Navy Cross. There is only one higher award...the Medal Of Honor.
Origins: The above-quoted bit of purported dialog from the Tonight Show does have some elements of truth to it, but although actor Lee Marvin was a guest on that late-night talk show at least seven times during Carson's tenure as host, most of what is reproduced above is an outright fiction or a transcript based on someone's badly flawed memory.

Lee Marvin did enlist in the U.S. Marines, saw action as Private First Class in the Pacific during World War II, and was wounded (in the buttocks) by fire which severed his sciatic nerve. However, his injury occurred during the battle for Saipan in June 1944, not the battle for Iwo Jima, which took place several months later in February 1945. Marvin also received a Purple Heart and was indeed interred at Arlington National Cemetery (but he was not, as some versions of this piece claim, awarded a Navy Cross).

Bob Keeshan, later famous as television's "Captain Kangaroo," also enlisted in the U.S. Marines, but he did so too late to see any action during World War II. Keeshan was born on 27 June 1927 and enlisted two weeks before his 18th birthday, several months after the fighting at Iwo Jima. In a 1997 interview, Keeshan explained that he "enlisted in the U.S. Marines but saw no combat" because he signed up "just before we dropped the atom bomb."

In 2003 someone thought to throw children's television host Fred Rogers into the mix by add the following bit to the existing e-mail about Lee Marvin and Bob Keeshan:
On another note, there was this wimpy little man (who just passed away) on PBS, gentle and quiet. Mr. Rogers is another of those you would least suspect of being anything but what he now portrays to our youth. But Mr. Rogers was a U.S. Navy Seal, combat proven in Vietnam with over twenty-five confirmed kills to his name. He wore a long sleeve sweater to cover the many tattoo's on his forearm and biceps. A master in small arms and hand-to-hand combat, able to disarm or kill in a heartbeat. He hid that away and won our hearts with his quiet wit and charm. America's real heroes don't flaunt what they did, they quietly go about their day to day lives, doing what they do best. They earned our respect and the freedoms that we all enjoy. Look around and see if you can find one of those heroes in your midst. Often, they are the ones you'd least suspect, but would most like to have on your side if anything ever happened.
Numerous rumors about children's host Mr. Rogers having a violent or criminal past have been bandied about for years, but there is nothing to any of them. As our Mr. Rogers page explains, Fred Rogers never served in the military.

Last updated: 17 July 2005

"Todd" Ad nauseum. broken record

Again "Todd" avoids the question at hand

1) What is the case number of the court filing that Walmart has against you?
2) Have you consulted a lawyer?

What with these two questions can't you answer, "Tood". Why do you have to continue to go into sermons, precghing about things that have no bearing on your report or the facts at hand?

Your continued postings of sermons, do not help you at all "Todd".

So why cant you simply answer the two questions that have been put forth to you repetedly, that you have yet to answre without going into a sermon?

Your next reply, should only contain 2 answers, "Todd"

Answer to 1 (with a court case number) and "yes or no" for answer 2.

time to stop, you've taken what seemed like a legitamate complaint and twisted into a never ending rant on your fundementalist chritian belifes

this has gone on long enough. you've taken what seemed like a legitamate complaint and twisted into a never ending rant on your fundementalist chritian belifes. then you attack the morals of anyone who disagrees with you. implying that they are of the devil, a time honored neo fundamentaist tradition. the same kind of mentality that is displayed by another radical religious faction....alqueda. obviously you have ample time to sit and type your rant so you must not have a case pending against walmart. perhaps you could not find a lawyer to represent you in a such a shakey case. undoubtedly another part of the global conspiracy against "good christian families". so lets hear about the progress of your case and the facts surrounding it or go away. this site is for real consumer concerns not a forum for religios zellots.

"Todd" does it again. Sermons, preaching and posts things that has nothing to do with this report

1) What is the case number of the court filing that Walmart has against you?
2) Have you consulted a lawyer?

Good Lord!!!!

Todd, what do any of your ramblings have to do with your initial complaint of being ripped off by Walmart?

ANSWER THE QUESTION MAN!

This thing is so blastedly long that even though I have a cable ISP, I have to wait for it to download.

Has your case come up for trial? Oo boy--now we'll get a so-called Christian sermon.

TELL US THE TRUTH--YOU'RE THE ONE WHO STARTED THIS COMPLAINT!

I'm sorry to say, but

TODD is clearly guilty as SIN! Whether you're gonna say it or not, I guess you can say I don't have a classified "life" outside of my work, but I've been reading this for 4 and a half hours. As a CSM for 5 years running, I must say that (if Todd really did get the money from the case) it was wrongful and Wal-Mart needs to be appealing to higher courts to get that money back. While it is true that the deli's that do not have a sitting area (Open-Air Deli's) allow you to take your food with you, this "Todd" guy clearly admitted that he was in a sit-in, which does in fact have a policy that you must pay for your merchandise in the Deli.

By NOT doing this, he is clearly liable for what damage was done, and I cannot sympathise ONE BIT! And if you think about it from the Christian standpoint, doesn't he want us to follow the policy of the Earth as we follow the Bible?

Back to an earlier part of the post, I believe the original case where he was found innocent was a hoax to get Denny off of his back, and make it appear as if he was indeed, invincible. The truth is, if this were God's doing, that he would have lost. Why? Because God loves us enough to show that you don't need approval from the world to belong to him.

Out of truth, I'm also a Christian. But when you work for a retailer, you have to learn to respect everyone, and face consequences for your actions. A "Devout" Christian would accept the whole happening as a lesson from God and say "Thank you for teaching me a lesson, I will not do this again, and I will not let anyone get to me about it." So although Denny put it heavily, he is 100% right in saying that you probably stole the food, but our question to you is:

...Did you learn anything?

Is It A Lie Or Truth? Is Wal-Mart Good For America

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Is It A Lie Or Truth?

I just watched a TV show called, “Is Wal-Mart Good For America?”

On the show it had all the Wal-Mart lovers together in one room, Party'ng and chanting how Wal-Mart is good for America.

Everyone should remember that WorldCom, Enron and other large companies like this said the SAME THING! And look what happen. They lied about the stocks, stole people's income, ran off mom-and-pop businesses, etc.

And when the Truth was discovered, it crashed the stocks and made people loss everything! And many lost their retirements, homes, savings, lives, etc.

Greed and wickedness never pay, history informs the truth of the matter.

Wal-Mart just announced that in 2005 it increased sales by 20%! (I think this is a BIG FAT LIE!)

This because a large part of the increase was by bringing in products from China to sale at lower prices than American products. Which caused good-honest American companies to fold and file bankruptcy, which costs the taxpayers BILLIONS!

The only ones getting rich are the Wal-Mart big wigs and the elected representatives that Wal-Mart pays. This past year the American Trade declined to 70% below!

Oh, hey Wal-Mart lovers, did Wal-Mart loose the Federal Trade court case that proved that Wal-Mart was working with China to “crush” and “cause” American companies to file bankruptcy? Or was that a lie? Wondering if you would post some truth, rather than keep trying to insult me in hopes I will stop posting truths here. Just wondering if you are going to start telling the truth!

One last thing, Wal-Mart, better hope I or the people I know, that you do not try to pay-off the judge, because if I discover that, Woe to you... The proof I have on you concerning this case, you will never win... GOD will give Me Victory and I will post it here! Just wait until I get the total cost, that the taxpayers had to pay for this case... I do not think they will be too happy...

And what is it you are accusing the original poster about? Shoplifting for how much money? And the original poster can prove his innocents! And Wal-Mart was proven to have fraud BILLIONS in the Federal Trade Case! Every wonder if there are good, honest elected representatives and Federal investigators that maybe investigating all of this? Makes me wonder, the truth will be known sooner or later... You could REPENT now, and the blow will not be as hard... people are forgiving if you repent... But they will put wrath on you if you LIE and cause harm to their lives.

Oh, ask your marking and business representatives, is it true that to every one customer that is affected by you wronging them that they tell at least 14 other people. And those 14 tell they're 14 and so on. Before you know it, over 100,000 people know of the wrongs you have done to that one customer.

That would become a loss of about $1 MILLION every year! And as I have already stated, the $1 BILLION in loss of False Imprisonment Cases that Wal-Mart has lost... I tend to think that Wal-Mart is LIEING about their stocks... At this point no one knows the truth, because in is assumed that Wal-Mart ships all their money to their HQ, and then their HQ ships the money to an overseas bank accounts... hmmmmm... did not know I knew that did you...

One other thing, are you getting a little scared of Walgreen? I hear that you are loosing many customers to Walgreen and other companies like them. Have you seen customers going to other stores lately? Makes me wonder if you have been cooking the stocks to show that 20%, just like WorldCom and Enron.

Hi everyone, go see that new movie, “Fun with Dick and Jane”, gives some insight of how some of these large companies can lie and be the REAL thief!

Bye for now… as I seek the truth, I will post the truth…

Oh One Last Thing… “Praise God that He gave me a brain, so I will not be deceived by Wal-Marts LIES!!!”

May others use their brains and discover the truth as I have been doing… Praise Your Mighty Name, Oh LORD…. YHWH
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Paying for your purchases is best

I have been reading the various comments here and I would like to add my two cents.

First, I am on disability and so because SSI doesn't pay a lot I have to shop where ever I can get the best deal.Wal Mart happens to be one of those places.Why shop at a grocery store when I can get the same thing for, often, half the price.And I am not an ex employee or a current employee and I only wish I was being paid for my opinion.

Second, faith is not a reasonable argument for any action like eating a product before paying for it and doesn't constitute honesty.Everyone should be treated the same way and should follow the same rules when shopping.I am a Christian man as well and I would never "assume" that I can eat or take something from a store or even eat it or use it in the store without first paying.This is just common sense and faith has nothing to do with it unless you want to abide by what the Bible says regarding stealing.

Third, nothing that I have read here would suggest to me that Todd is not responsible for his actions.Wal Mart and any other company for that matter, is not responsible for making sure you pay for something before eating and/or using it.But they do have the right, for their protection, to pursue anyone who would eat and/or use their products before paying for them.

Todd, You were wrong to do that and you need to remember that you are responsible for paying for anything you want before eating/using it.If you can't do that then you are the one to blame.You're also responsible for making sure that you were charged for it.No excuses.-Dan

Todd, let's get real for once

Just because I seek "The Truth", you will probably judge me and label me an "insulter". You are not my judge and frankly you can label me whatever you want. But let's get real for once. Either you took something from Wal-Mart without paying for it, or you didn't. By your own admission, you did. Whether it was intentional or not, you still took something without paying and there are laws against that. "Thou shalt not steal" is even your Fathers words, not mine.

It would appear you might even be making up this entire episode. "Thou shalt not lie" comes to mind. The commandment does not give any stipulation when it's ok to lie, it just says lying is wrong and against God.

Now I am a long haired 44 year old white male that wears a leather jacket. Some judge me because of my hair, and I honestly don't care. I have set off the door alarm at Wal-Mart several times. Each and every time, they check my bag, check my receipt, log it in a book and allow me to go on my way. Honestly, I have never had a problem like you are describing. First of all, I don't take it out on the retired door greeter. They are just doing their job, and I've done nothing wrong. I'm sure if I pushed them, they would push back. The entire event is in Gods hands so I don't even worry about it. Worrying to a Christian is uneccesarry. A true believer does not worry, nor do they fire back. Should something negative happen..."Turn the other cheek". Why is it this long haired, leather jacket clad freaky person can set off alarms without any hassles? Maybe it's because I treat people with respect. Based on your posts alone, you do not do the same.

Why not just answer the questions?

1.)Case Number?
2.)Court Date?

What are you hiding from? I'm sure you would get more support if you just stuck to the facts in the case and removed your beliefs from your posts. God did not partake in your activities that got you in this spot. That is assuming what you are saying is fact, or coming from a delusioned religious fanatic that feels Christians can do no wrong. Which is it?

Who took this guys straight jacket off?

Todd, exactly WHAT do most of your posts have to do with the OP? We started out with a theft charge, and here we are rambling on about the evils of Walmart again! You post under the guise of your religous beliefs, yet you are as fanatical as you accuse Walmart of being! Jim Jones, David Koresh and others come to mind while reading some of the stuff that you write. The more that I read, the more I wonder if maybe the welfare of your children should be checked into, because my friend, your ramblings can't be healthy for such young impressionable minds. Another posibility is that you take some strong meds for your disability, and get carried away at the keyboard while 'under the influence', in which case, perhaps your wife should password protect it, and keep it locked when you're having a 'bad' spell!

Off topic, and having nothing to do with the theft post, you have some points. Walmart is a business giant, and just as the larger cable companies, phone companies, gas companies, etc. undercut the mom and pop, Walmart does the same. However, because of wages paid, a majority of low income families can't afford to shop at the mom and pop. If you're buying one or two items, the $1-$2 difference doesn't make a major impact on your budget, however, if you purchased all of your items at the mom and pop, you're talking $100's a month (let's take diapers as an example...you can purchase a jumbo bag at Walmart or Kmart for $10.99+-, buying a small bag at mom and pops general store (1/2 the diapers) runs you $9.79. A young family earning $6.50 an hour can't afford this kind of a financial burden.) Looking at it from this prospective, Walmart doesn't look so bad to the young couple, as it has allowed them to not only purchase diapers, but maybe a warm shirt for the baby (because the house has to be kept cooler because heating costs are so high). Do you honestly think that this young couple thinks Walmart is evil???

If you truly want to make a difference, maybe you should expend some of this energy working to get higher minimum wages, which would allow the working poor to afford to shop elsewhere. Write letters to lawmakers, making them aware that a large majority of people do not earn a living wage, disability and social security benefits are so low that people must choose between heat and medication or food. The reason that Walmart enjoys the success that it does is because it fill a niche in society that, because of the high costs, mom and pops are unable to fill. Until people can earn enough to pay for all of the neccesities in life, Walmart will be the store of their choosing.

To Todd....

first off let me state this to todd before I continue

1 I am a ordained minster within the souther Baptist church as well as the Universal Life Church and an ordained unitarian minister

2 dont try any of your neo-conservative/biblical /religous right thumping rants in relation to this
ok here goes for the civil end

Todd what you did was not only against company policy but is also against the laws of man and god so is your religious zeal/zest/ attempt to convert others to YOUR way of thinking. Christ would have wanted you to follow in his footsteps and do that which is right and lawful by paying first for the items you consumed then giving thanks to him for having brought the food unto your belly and to have nourished you once again.

however the way it seems to me is that you were sealing in the most literal interperitation of the word. my stand point as a minister is this if you had done something like that in the town i lived in and were a member of my congergation i would have pulled you in for counseling of a religious sort and then have attempted to reason with you as a normal human being and would have asked what was wrong and how could you break one of the commandments because you truely show the hypocrisy of "the modern american christian"
because you choose to follow the bible as YOU see fit and not as GOD sees fit.

God will judge you todd its not my place to judge you nor is it anyone elses but you need to know that YOU were at fault as is defined by the laws of your state and the laws of god thats 2 strikes against your soul i would ask for forgiveness todd before you attempt to put into words/rantings anything because you eed to ge this mark off your oul or you may end up in the pits of damnnation

i also would apologize to everyone on this report and say something like:
sorry for taking up your time, or something to that affect todd you need to lay off it and relax faith is like a mustard seed one must first plant it in fertile soil and todd yuor faith is groing amongst the hard rocky soil of yuo heart so please stop with the diatribes
Reverand Nate

It Appears Christianity Gives you the right to do anything you want...

As a Christian family man I say, It's people like you who give Christianity a bad wrap. I am sick and tired of people of all races and all colors committing crimes and the saying their a Christian therefore wouldn't do anything like this. You see it on TV every news broadcast; a crime committed then the parents or a relative are interviewed and they say "what a good Christian person he/she is. they wouldn't do anything like this". Then you here how this isn't the first time this crime was committed. A home invasion just the other day and guess what it was a Christian. The church members were on TV saying how this guy was such a good Christian, he would never do anything like this. But he did?

Common sense tells you, you pay for the items before consuming them and as you consume them in the store as you are waiting for your wife you have the receipt in your hand. This is what a Christian would have done. This is what anyone would have done! God and Christianity have nothing to do with it! Your religous relationship is personal. That should have never been brought up. All that is is an excuse. I would have arrested you to.

Keep religiona and your preferances out of yoiu mistakes. Be a man and raise your chidren with dignity and respect. Teach them to grow up to be proud men of honor with dignity, repect, pride, honesty, etc. for others and society!

Fabian
Atlanta, Georgia

Not Buying It

Sheesh. I can't believe this thread is still going on after more than three years.

I'm no fan of Walmart, although I do shop there (only a fool pays more than he has to), but I must say I don't buy Todd's story for a second, and I see I'm not the only one. If someone were to back me into a corner and force me to give an opinion, I'd have to say the guy's a raving loon.

WRONGFUL ARREST @ WALMART

I understand as does almost every one else in the entire US is that Wal-Mart is Super Cheap, and an Evil Empire of blood sucking civil right deniers. That being said, a Loss Prevention agent or someone that is charged with protecting the assets of there respective stores, and security, had an enormous job task and responsibities.

If you are claiming that you where wrongly detained, wrong accused, and wrongly imprisoned, why in God's great name are you wasting your time, and not filing lawsuits against Wal-Mart and the over aggressive cop that booked you. Why haven't you filed a complaint with the department of corporations in your state and a complaint with the attorney general?

Instead of muttering that you are a devout Christian and a family man and that you spend XX of dollars at Wal-Mart, why not seek punitive damages?

When a person denies you of your significant rights, it should not be taken lightly. File the charges and the complaint.

in response to everyone!

WOW where do I start,well I'm into God but not a religious nut but know enough, I know law very well because all the people I know or seen on t.V who have been falsely accused of things and such alike even myself as a child and teen,now I can't say Matt was targeted for his religious beliefs but as they say "luck of the draw he had the shortest straw"shame for this to happen to anybody, Matthew included,for the people who tried to go against him,you we're not there to judge only the people who were well were!he could be the worst crimminal of all time and it dosen't justify him being treated in any manner less than right,nor his wife with children,even if they did dteal there still is a human respect we must give, he had the intent to pay allegally and we have to go by that we cannot judge God be that of course!and cops have a tendancy to be more than a little harsh on people i've even told a few officer freinds about that and that's just words alone,you want to speak american fine we have a right to be innocent until proven guilty and if matt wants to preach about God let him,cause God knows so we are not to decide the court system is which has unfairly failed in the past as well as companies falsely accusing people,and I beleive it was catholic priest who molested young childern but then again every religion has evil people even those closest presumibly to God so let's get off that talking blasphemy talk to the person who said that, such hipocrits you people it's ok for someone to have an issue and you judge but when it comes to you or your own even when you know your wrong you defend them to the bone,the facts are facts and it will be on camera so if he's right or wrong the camera will decide and knowing footage is available and demanding it so much well he could have left that out but that too will be on the court and lawyers to provide not you unless you personally want to be a lawyer in the case for or against. to the lady who wants to quote the bible and judge matthew also I got something for you shut up leave the man to plead his case,he's just voicing his rights but all you speak your own that's fine but some things are best to br kept to oneself, even me to be honest but leave the guy alone he could be broke or poor healthy or sick,a saint or a sinner,whatever the case it will be decided upon you people don't know all the facts just like I don't only matthew does, and according to store policies you thnik youknow it alls you can eat you can open you can destroy any and everything as long as you 1.don't cause a scene and 2.pay for it before you leave,even put stuff in your pockets and walk the store with them as long as before you leave you what "pay" and if a person is looking suspicious for safety of your family you don't just tell you do it discretely,and for reasons of just pure judgement that was his opinion on what she could of been t doesn't mean everyone has to get harrassed by authorities because they look suspicious,people have gotten uptight and most with good reason but come on so if a guy wears a turbin selling us food or driving are cab we goinfg to call the feds and say he might be a terrorist"NO!" only by actions can we allege anything not looks. Now as well if you do have kids not all are stable or so well disciplined and even when they are if the kids have to go they going to go and I don't even have kids and I know that! Ive seen so many parents looses track of important things because of the children and he asked twice that was enough,even if he asked once it was enough so even more so bringing the empty items was more than more than enough it was up to the individual to say i'm going to ring that up but Matt was not only being a good christain (cause people are good and bad christain or not)he opted to pay for it and make it a concern all that extra was because some people are fools (or idiots as most would say)and some new and others just in a rush or forgetful so let's not act oblivious to the fact in life so many cashiers and even us have made mistakes, so it ain't if you do the crime you do the time he didn't do a crime"allegally" being fair a crime is something intended get your laws and facts straight.it is plain unjust and yes I shop at wall mart Ive traveled alot and only wallmart has beeen open all night and I needed stuff I won't stop because of pride I have pride in myself and family 1st.but to each is own,it just isn't right and we unfortunately have bad apples who spoil the bunch act like you or your friends or family are perfect, like you never laughed at something anyone did was bad even your own. Get over yourselves and let it all play out he's not attacking no-one he's defending his rights and own religious beliefs let him be,don't you have anything else better to do then to stumble on some crazy way to reading a story on a scam within wallmart and critique the guy,me I was looking for scams on money graham and associated with wallmart for personal reasons and looking up something things I stumbled upon here and the stories looked interesting,what are your reeasons your that bored or actually looking to ride wallmart like your b*tch!hay I said i'm into God but not knee deep I'm no hipocrit I do good and bad,but we all have are reasons as to why so get off me God got me,don't need you 2 sponges,keep soaking in your own B.S see hoew far that gets you and I got so much more I care not to go there,but I got you matthew since I know you may or may not want to say it,all of you nonunderstanding or mis-judging or no-life having people "GO 2 HELL!!!" that's right I said it,and maybe I might see you there but to bad you can't decide that shoo not even me only who can jea "GOD CAN"and your not god so "GO-2-HELL" ooh that feels so good can you feel it,and try to come back at me I'm not as nice as Matthew I will light a fire under your *ss!get-it!! I was chosen out of bad to use my good and evil ways to get at the one's who truly do evil or I was just born to not care enough for you but for the little people!you people need to get back slapped,it ain't are fault your husband or wife cheated on you or left you for another,or you just don't have anybody,me I have a beautiful Fiance who goes to school,dosen't drink or smoke nor do I and she models now who's HOT! oh i'm just burning up now,and me I never had a problem with friends or woman I just chosses to be faithful cause it's the good thing,we know how to stay happy do you haters?wait!wait!i'm not done...okaay I will leave you be but anything you have for me I have better,I don't hold back and pretend to be something I'm not unlike you people trying to refrain your thoughts and words,i'm smoking now but I'm going to let you blow off some steam because I'm not the one that's mad.you all be safe and God Bless HAHAHA!Love you my Peoples!...and member if you got something for me it best be nice cause you either cum hard or not at all when it comes to me cause I have so much more...Matthew...carry on and hope the best for you! ;)

Questions for the accused

In your first post you mention you asked several times and the cashier verified the items had been scanned, but did you ask about the other items as well? Why would you focus so much on making sure she scanned these items and nothing else?

Seems awful strange that you would keep asking multiple times about the items being scanned! Why would you think other wise if she had already told you they had been scanned and feel the need to keep asking about it?

I applaud you for being such a faithful person, but whether God is everywhere or not, you brought religion into something that did not involve it when it comes to the actual facts! You ate food before you bought it, you say you verified it was scanned at the checkout with the clerk, you focus on the fact that you discussed the scanning of said items numerous times even though you were told they were scanned.
Your story sounds a bit fishy to me and I honestly feel it was just a simple mistake on your part because accidents do happen and you may have accidentally forgotten to pay for items that were no longer there.

Not bashing God so don't take it that way, but the facts of what happened to you can be told without making this a 3 ring revival!

Todd.....do you have a mental disability

I don't think Wal-Mart cares about your religious beliefs. In fact, back when I shopped at WalMart (YEARS AGO) I saw nothing in the religion sections OTHER than Christian stuff and they refused to carry Kosher food. Did I file a complaint that I was discriminated against because I was Jewish? Ummm..no. I just looked elsewhere.

I read your original post and subsequent posts, and it is fairly obvious that you have some sort of mental illness. You may need to seek treatment or get your medication adjusted.

Also, if you are on disability (AKA living off my dime) why are you having children? If you can't work to support yourself, how can you raise children? If you have a mental illness (and I am on anti-depressants, so I am NOT being judgemental about that...but I work full time) and are not being treated, your children might be at risk from you. PLEASE GET TREATMENT.

Leave religion out of it

Todd I have friends who work at the county jail, I also have friends who work in retail. I know about people being detained for things they may or may not have done. I also know about people with disabilities being discriminated against (its happened to my mom) for a company to get their money.

But one point that has been made...while your history is decent, and the court system was based on the "divine laws", now that doesn't hold up anymore. The courts are not going to hear your argument of being a Christian and that's not going to give you any merit whatsoever when it comes to convincing a judge or jury. They're gonna look at facts.

I don't know what the truth is nor do I really care. Its frustrating to me as a person to come here and try and read reports and spend an hour reading Scripture instead. I'm glad your strong in your faith and while I know all about your supposed to spread the word and work of God to others, some of us really would rather do without. As someone whose studied many religions in depth I've found they're essentially the same, don't steal, don't kill, what you do to others can come back at you, etc. If your gonna put religion into your case, do it in your own heart and mind, spouting it in a courtroom is going to get you thrown back in jail for contempt because its irrelevant to your case and spouting it here is just going to get people attacking you.

And for the record, I'm a parent to 2 children under age 6, I've asked the people at Walmart if its okay to open an box of crackers to give some to my fussing 1 year old and they've been okay with it. It may be against store policy but it does happen. I shop at Walmart because paying $4.39 for my body wash instead of $5.99 at Meijer is a better deal. Here in the metro Detroit suburbs there are very few "mom and pop" stores so I shop the major chains, and being on a limited budget I shop where its cheapest.

Remember when Christians burned people at the stake?

Don't we all remember when Christians burned people at the stake during the inquisitions? They all thought they were doing the right thing.

Stop playing the God card and deal with the hear and now. God doesn't show up in court, nor can anyone supoena him/her/it anyway.

I watched that "wife swap" show on TV and I can tell you I saw one HUGE ass fat woman on TV screaming Christianity things at everyone about...and she was completely INSANE and possibly psychotic to boot. Being Christian doesn't mean you get special treatment.

So you did or didn't do it...maybe your kid ate a candy bar when you weren't looking...that happens all the time. I would suggest if you believe in God to try to get him to be a witness for you in court to prove you are innocent.

Good luck....'cause the rest of us are sick of people using the God card.

They still can fasely accuse you

To rick they can still fasely accuse you. The cashier just wanted to abuse there powers, and make something into nothing.

Wal-mart opened themselves up to a lawsuit If they arrested the person with no hard evidence they can be held libel for slander.

Somehow wal-mart Is getting away with this they have horrible custormer service they also judge custormers, all custormers should receive good custormer service.

And If wal-mart employees are rude towards you, the custormer has a right to get hateful back.

Lots of things wrong with this

Basically, there are over 4,000 Wal-Mart stores in the US alone and each store can have between 150 and 400 employees each. I am sure that some of those folks are going to make some wrong decisions on how to handle situations. Everyone makes less than perfect decisions at least once in their lives no matter where they work I am sure. Even if some of these associates did not handle the situation like Todd had wanted them too, the bottom line is that he was eating food before it was his to eat. Does Todd go to McDonalds, get a #1, eat it and THEN pay? Of course not. Why do we abuse basic common sense because we are in Walmart?

Another issue I have experienced, is customers letting their children eat in the store and then they spill or drop something. The parent does not pick it up and an innocent, unsuspecting customer comes along behind them, slips on it and injures themselves before an associate can get to it and clean it up. Guess who pays that medical claim? Walmart does. We had a situation recently where a pregnant customer slipped on a spilled beverage that another customer's child had just spilled. Fortunately she and her baby were both fine. The majority of associates really do care about our customers, so help us keep our environment safe so we can continue to offer prices that help you live better.

walmart

Personally the whole GOD WILL SAVE US AND CONDEMN OTHERS is a bit off the wall. gawd has nothing to do with Walmart.

Just Have To Smile At These Latest Responses... Here Some More Truth In The Matter...

Well, well, aren't there many Truth-haters out there! But I see a few who understand my postings and know the truth of the matter. Let me clear something up with those who keep responding to my post and discriminating against me because of my faith.

"Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?" (II Corinthians 13:5, KJV)

FIRST: This is my posting and I have the freedom in this country that my family throughout the ages have fought and bleed blood for that freedom. So, if you do not like my post, then go elsewhere. If you do not like the freedom of this country move elsewhere. If you know you will loose that freedom in another country and decide to live in this country, then mind your own business and let me post what I wish on my own posting. In fact, you cannot stop me from posting what I wish, anyway. So your words of trying to silence me are in vain and do not matter. Therefore, I will continue and you can just go fizzle somewhere else. Period!

"Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened" (Romans 1:21, KJV). "But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men" (Matthew 15:9, KJV).

SECOND: As I have posted many times, my faith is part of me and I often speak in the formation because it is who I am. Again, if you do not like it, then surf somewhere else.

THIRD: I speak the truth that Wal-Mart did me wickedly, and I know God will punish them for their wickedness against a true man of God.

"For we can do nothing against the truth, but for the truth" (II Corinthians 13:8, KJV)

1. Wal-Mart falsely accused me!
2. Wal-Mart refused the truth and tampered with the facts!
3. Wal-Mart falsely punished me for no reason!
4. Wal-Mart threatens my wife and children!
5. Wal-Mart refuses to listen to reason and continues to attempt to destroy my life!
6. Wal-Mart is full of greed and therefore has blinded themselves to the truth.
7. Wal-Mart will be punished for their wickedness, if they do not repent and correct the evils; they have done to others and me.

FORTH: It is crystal clear that I was wronged by Wal-Mart, I can tell some of you have not read my postings, or otherwise you would see the truth of the matter. A few of my postings I made a prophecy that Wal-Mart would begin being punished for their wickedness against true people of God.

"Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold, your God will come with vengeance, even God with a recompense; he will come and save you" (Isaiah 35:4) "To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn" (Isaiah 61:2). "Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord" (Romans 12:19).

Please read over just a few of today's new paper reports:

1. Wal-Mart critics take cause to church (Oct 27, 2005) Wal-Mart's critics, opening a new front in their war on the retail goliath, are borrowing from actor-director Mel Gibson's promotional playbook. Producers of a new documentary, Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price, will show it at about 1,000 churches, synagogues and religious sites nationwide on Nov. 13. www.usatoday.com/money/industries/retail/2005-10-26-wal-mart-f...

2. Wal-Mart memo sparks criticism (Oct 27, 2005) Wal-Mart's effort this week to improve its public relations by offering new health insurance options for its workers took a hit Wednesday with the release of an internal memo recommending the company consider changes that would "dissuade unhealthy people from coming to work at Wal-Mart." www.usatoday.com/money/companies/management/2005-10-26-wal-mar...

3. Wal-Mart calls for higher minimum wage Oct 25, 2005 Wal-Mart Stores, under attack from critics including labor groups and environmentalists, has called on Congress to raise the minimum wage, and has vowed to cut energy usage, reduce waste and offer lower-price health care to employees. www.usatoday.com/money/industries/retail/2005-10-25-walmart_x....

Need I say more? For the time would extend into the late hour if I was to continue describing and providing the facts, that the wrath God is beginning to bring against the wicked. Not just Wal-Mart, but all the others that do wickedness against His people. I will stop for now, and I will post my update when God brings me victory, in which He will. I want to thank those who know I speak the truth and have supported me in this situation. That has been a great help. I know Jesus is on His way to return, and we must do our part in witnessing the "good-news".

I pray you all see the LIGHT, and live in the LIGHT, Bless you all brother and sisters of the living FATHER…...

I am Amazed...Shocked...appalled, and have been thoroughly entertained...

Wow what a mess this has all become... A word to Todd the originator of this diatribe of dribble and all his many supporters and his opposition as well... This website was designed to act as a sounding board for those who feel they have been wronged in some way by a company or business, and would like to inform others of it. The responses and rebuttals were made available for not only other Consumers to sound out about a way to help or suggestions on solutions, but, for the business or company itself to respond. That being said I have been amazed at the time, energy, and ridiculous babble I have just read. I work for another company that is notably smaller than Wal- Mart and have seen postings made against my company. I researched these postings to see if I could in any way provide better service to my customers. Upon reading postings against my company I was amazed at the absolute lunacy of some of our customers... having seen this I wondered if these are being written against our "tiny" company what must huge companies such as Wal-Mart have?
Well Much to my Surprise.

Please everyone involved here... take that energy and put it to better use...
For the record I stand on this side of this issue... Todd; No matter how you were treated you reacted to that treatment badly, Regardless of law, store policy, common practice, morality, religious standing and beliefs, the good or bad day that the manager, policeman, cashier might of had... Blah blah blah... the fact remains.
An item that has been produced for purchase by a consumer belongs to the retailer until it is paid for in full. If a person consumes(eats) this item before paying for it they have taken something that does not belong to them, and that person cannot under any stretch of the imagination have any possible hope of returning that item in its original condition, and are knowingly destroying that item by eating it, so you sir took what did not belong to you and destoyed it!!!

If I take something and destroy it and then go the checkout and pay for it I have still done wrong. By any law, policy, or moral code, because I destroyed something that DOES NOT BELONG TO ME!!

I hope that everyone when reading this will maybe think again before using this as a platform to express their religious beliefs and theories and will refrain from attacking others, morals opinions and or character and use this for what it was intended... a way for other consumers to research a business and the practices and complaints and defend or agree with that business or complaint in a normal civil and adult manner...
So...thanks for the entertainment and no thanks for the longwinded and ridiculous thread that precedes this statement.

Response to Carolyn: Your Posting Is...

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Carolyn,

Your statement: "I hope that everyone when reading this will maybe think again before using this as a platform to express their religious beliefs and theories and will refrain from attacking others, morals opinions and or character and use this for what it was intended... "

And your prior statement: "Personally the whole GOD WILL SAVE US AND CONDEMN OTHERS is a bit off the wall. gawd has nothing to do with Walmart"

Doesn't your statements violate your very words? Because you took the time to write and post your statement to my posting. Plus it was a two-parter at that.

As you said you are a smaller company than Wal-Mart and customers have filed complaints against your company. A customer has the right to post whatever they feel. Some may go off into other subject matters as they are very upset with the poor-treatment and lack of customer service. But does that rank as logic to erase what happen to them? No, it does not. What makes you mad and companies like Wal-Mart, is that customers are finding public broadcasting elements on the internet, that allow them to freely express the poor treatment. And this causes a large movement of customers to begin to take action, either boycotting or filing lawsuits against those companies. That is why you and other companies try to pump all this "hate-remarks" against a poster, so in order to try and silence them. But you just do not get it. Customers that post, will not be silent!

I often wonder if the internet was available during the 1960's what kind of postings would be there. I am sure that little lady that refused to move from her seat on the bus, for that racist young man, would be all over the postings. Do you think they would have the right to express themselves? Did you know the very rights of race was first recorded in the Bible? I guess not.

What about Martin Luther King, Jr. Do you think he would post on this website if he could? Do you think he would reference the Bible? Have you ever read his "I Had A Dream"? If you read it, and know the Bible, you will know he references much of his speaking from Bible teachings. Should I continue?

Let's say this website was around back in the 1600's or 1700's, what kind of postings do you think you would read? Would customers express themselves with Bible references or just do nothing like you would prefer? Did you know Rhode Island was the first state to pass a law making slavery illegal? Why do you think they did that? Do you think people that were treated as slaves would post here and make Biblical references?

What if the children that are trapped in the slave markets in Asia, that are operated by Wal-Mart and other large companies, do you think they would post here? Do you think they would make any references to the Bible, if they knew what the Bible taught?

The fact of the matter is, I started this thread, I should have the right to post what I wish. My posting and the threads to that posting are related. They either go into discussions of my faith, or to what happen to me at Wal-Mart.

Some responses are bad and some are good. But to make your statement, does not matter, people will still post what they wish, how they wish and when they wish.

And I hope and pray the man that started this website and others like it, keep the window open where customers can inform others how companies treat them.

Because I am 100% sure, if I walked up to your company, there is no notice of a customer being done wrong there, would it be? I rest my case, concerning your response.

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You are right

Todd,

I visted the Wal-mart on Harbison last night after leaving that Lowes out your way and let me tell everyone out there Todd is not lying, this store is off the chain. Todd if I ever return to Wal-mart it will not on Harbison, I will stick to the one on Two Notch.

I am so tired of people like you who use religious beliefs to exclude yourselves or excuse your behaviors.

I am a Christian?

I am so tired of people like you who use religious beliefs to exclude yourselves or excuse your behaviors.

You think that your declaration of being " Christian" erases or excuses you of any and all accusations wheather they be accurate or not. Give me a break! Some of the biggest lawbreakers, rapist, liars and crooks sit in prison as we speak and claim to be such devout Christians.Your claims of being Christian have nothing to do with the Law and is not a "get out of jail free card"

Todd and Dawn are religious zealots

Todd,

Your Statement:
"Doesn't your statements violate your very words? Because you took the time to write and post your statement to my posting. Plus it was a two-parter at that."

No she is not violating her words. She is stating facts, something you and Dawn have a hard time comprehending.

What Wal*Mart does as a business, it has nothing to do with religion. What they do to protect their business, it has nothing to do with religion. simple fact is that you stole food, ate it, and didn't pay for it. You got arrested for doing so, and it was within WalMart's right to do so.

And you again, bring instances of other "things" and situations that HAVE nothing to do with the crime you committed.

You were wrong in all counts yet you think you are the victim. YOU really need to grow up.

Dawn:
Your statement:
For the idiot that said God has nothing to do with Walmart,you are truly in denial take a look around you and say that again. As a so called "filthy GOD hating Liberal", even I know that GOD has everything to do with everything. You must be one of the people trying to take GOD out the Pledge of Allegiance.

Shows exactly why your ilk have put America behind the times. God has nothing to do with my life ( THANKFUL FOR THAT ), and it sure has HELL doesn't have to do with everything. Sorry, that Buddhist temple I visit often, there is no mention of God there. Thank goodness.

Think before you speak and read before you respond!

In response to Todd... I would first like to point out that you got your facts wrong before you "went off" on me. I am not Cheryl who made the "Gawd" comment, my name is Carolyn and this was my FIRST time posting.
Secondly, I absolutely agree wholeheartedly that this website is very needed and also hope that it will remain. It is part of our very nature to sound out against those who have wronged us, and our nation was built on that in part.
If you take the time once again to re-read my response you will see that I work FOR a company and was hoping to use this website as a tool to help better my personal service to my clients; I however, only HOPED that it would be used more civilly and wisely, and less for personal attacks and religious comments, if you were wronged by a religious organization or were persecuted for your religion... as opposed to your actions... I would welcome your comments in the threads, I do not however see how you are trying to help or better any one else's situation by "ranting" about your beliefs? I have re read your original posting carefully, and many times, and no where in it does it say that ANYONE... on that day... in that Wal-Mart store... in any way... suggested... said... insinuated, or implied... that they were questioning you or arresting you for your religious beliefs. But did for your actions.

I would like to point out though that in no time during your rebuttal to my response did you address the wrongdoing of your actions in that Wal-Mart store, nor did you address my point that you DO in fact personally attack people that are also expressing their opinion.

For one who preaches about Rosa Parks (that is the name of the little old lady on the bus by the way I think she earned the respect to be called by name) and the late great Dr Martin Luther King, you should be as open to the opinion they express as you feel others should be of yours...

As an aside...
I refuse to dignify the comparison that you make of your self to Dr King, I think you put these things in solely for provocation to incite others for your own amusement)

I am sorry for the stress this situation has caused you, I am sorry for any your family has suffered, as I am sorry for any who have suffered anywhere.
I feel though that you are picking at an open wound and will never begin to heal yourself by continuing these rants! (That is what they are by the way... RANTS not constructive postings to help yourself or others)
I would also like to point out that there are several chat rooms and other websites that were designed specifically for people who need others to hear their thoughts on religion, theories, conspiracies and so forth... you may want to check them out.

You know we don't all have to agree, as long as we are mature and open enough to respect each other's opinions.
It seems to me that, that is a lesson that has also been preached for a very long time...

I will not be posting on this thread as I feel it is a waste of my time and the time of those who read it, it is neither constructive nor helpful. I hope, however Todd that you will put all this energy instead, into filing your claim, accepting its results, and healing your self and seeing all to it's Fruition... Good Luck!

Ok, I have decided to say something

To Todd,
It sounds like Walmart went off the deep end. I see people in Walmart in my town do this all the time and I have not seen anyone hauled off in cuffs. The cops were way out of line talking to your wife like that. My father is a pastor and he doesnt believe in lawsuits but thats where he and his daughter(me)tend to differ. Turning the other cheek isnt part of my mantra. You have the right to convey your religious beliefs. I dont think you are hiding behind them to make your point honestly. I hope you find some closure to what happened to you. No one deserves to be humiliated like that. I have seen them treat murderers with better dignity than that.

For the idiot that said God has nothing to do with Walmart,you are truly in denial take a look around you and say that again. As a so called "filthy GOD hating Liberal", even I know that GOD has everything to do with everything. You must be one of the people trying to take GOD out the Pledge of Allegiance.

And to think I quit Walmart Over the Kitty

Wow! I guess I quit going to Walmart for the wrong reasons.

When CNN reported last January that the manager at the Evensville Indiana store had 2 of his employees go to the sporting goods department, get a gun, and shoot and kill a lost kitty that wound up in the store I vowed never to step foot in another Walmart.

I never have nor will I ever again.

I guess my reason for staying away is kind of shallow compared to everyone else's.

For the sake of the conversation I would like to think the poor little kitty went to heaven, and the manager with his 2 employees are headed in the opposite direction.

God Loves you, Todd

Everyone else thinks you're a jack*ss.

I was especially amused when you fired back when someone else quoted scripture at you, because Satan knows the scriptures and can quote them to his own ends. Very smart - YOU can use the bible to defend yourself, and if anyone else uses it to attack you, they're the DEVIL.

You will win every argument, because by definition you cannot lose. You are the right hand of God, and everyone else is a heathen, satanist, liberal demon.

I just hope you realize someday you live in the real world, and have to deal with real people who don't give a damn that you're a righteous christian soldier who's being martyred by the evil forces of Wal-mart.

You scare me, Todd. I think you might be mentally ill. Please get some help, and stop taking it all so seriously. God doesn't want that for you.

Insulted

Let me tell you something Todd, I am retired Navy. Been out of the service 3 years now. My husband is currently a Navy Reservist who could be deployed at any minute. Don't you for a minute start to lecture about freedom and where people can go if they don't like your fanatical postings. Are you out there right this minute fighting for those freedoms? Are you over there trying to defend your right to love God the way you do without persecution? And on this..

"Today, you have people in high positions, that make more money than a hundred people in one year, and yet they still lie, cheat, and do wickedness. You have today, leaders of our own governments taking from the poor, and then putting the poor in jail when they try to feed their starving children." Yeah and dear old George W Bush proclaims he's a Christian. Between the war, the cut in state programs for education and single working mothers, food stamps, medical care for our children and elderly...thats wickedness if I ever saw it!
So should we assume on that definition of "Christian" you also lie, cheat and do wickedness? I know some really great Christians actually, people who are in touch with their faith but don't feel the need to shove it at me every 5 seconds. What about the Christians who commit every sin during the week to repent on Sunday then go right back out on Monday and do them all again? Why do I get the feeling when you got married it was in your vows for your wife to recite "love, honor and obey"?

You talk about how your familys bloodline runs all the way back to whatever...guess what? I have Native American bloodlines. You could say my people were killed off by a bunch of radical Christians from Europe who thought them savages. Almost everyone has some sort of roots to an influential history figure nowadays, find a new argument.

And for a little history lesson...do some research on the various printings of the Bible. I found the information and history about King James particularly interesting. A tyrant more then a biblical scholar really. No use throwing Scripture at me either. I was raised to be Catholic til I was about 10, changed over to basic Christianity til I was 16, when my youth pastor was convicted of molesting 8 boys in our youth group. My mother is still Christian and my husband was raised Catholic, I have VERY Catholic inlaws. I made it a point in my teen years to study just about every religion out there. I could quote Bible verses right back at you but that's not who I am. (and I won't tell you what I practice now as you'll just use it to take away any weight this reply might have, not going to give you ammunition)

I would think by now this dispute would have been resolved. Can't we just get over it already?

Bleh, I had to have been bored to have made it back to posting on this topic.

Truth Will Be Known... And God Will Bring Me Victory! Here is something else...

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Hi Dawn, P, and Everyone else,

I felt I needed to give you a thank you for your nice response to my posting. There have been some rather strange and aggressive responses that really have no purpose in my thread, but let them post what they feel. Many of them have tried to curse me and shut me up with insults. But I can tell they have not read my many posting and try to divert the truth of the matter.

It is interesting that on this website there are other people who have posted stories like mine and they have many supportive responses. Mine has been attacked because I felt to implement my faith by speaking the "B", "J", "G" and "C" words. A question comes to mind, why does the word "Bible", "Jesus", "God" and "Christian" cause such hatred from some people?

What did a true "Christian" or "Jesus" ever do to them? If someone that claimed to be a Christian and hurt them for no reason in anyway, then those people were not a true Christian. Now, a Christian should defend themselves, and the Bible is very clear on that matter. The Bible never teaches that someone can come into a Christian's home and destroy his/her family and not defending his/her home. The teachings of Christ are to not hold a grunge or have hatred towards your enemies. But be humble, that does not teach to lay down and play dead!

I will not even waste my energy in responding to them directly, but will respond in the manner I feel God wishes me to. I will also respond to those who are seeking help in this dark world.

"Know this, the darkness will not last; the light is getting brighter and soon will destroy the darkness" (Todd, 2005).

"It takes a lot of energy for a man to take a stand for what he believes to be right, when so many accuse him of being wrong" (Todd, 2005).

"But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb ass speaking with man's voice forbad the madness of the prophet. These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever. For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error. While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage. For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire" (2 Peter 2:16-22)

Does anyone understand what this scripture teaches? In this last days of darkness, all should know by now the truth of Jesus Christ, and if they have known and yet rejected, it will be a worse punishment to you than if you never knew of Him. I wonder if I did a test by posting my story again without my reference to my faith, what responses would I get?

I cannot and will not deflect my faith and my inner heart from God for anyone! Go ahead and scar me with a "scarlet letter" if you wish, frankly I am glad you do so. I would rather be scar by you, than to deny my Father in Heaven and lose the Kingdom, than be were the wicked would be when Jesus returns.

I thank Dawn, P and other people that know what I say about the evils of Wal-Mart and the truth of Jesus. Wal-mart and wicked people like them, have done great wrongs to many people, not just Christians, but many people of many faiths. I feel more wrongs are being done to Christians than any others, because I feel it is during the last hour of this world. And the enemy of God knows it.

Please tell me that the crimes that are going on today or the same as years past? Where was it in our country's history that a 6 year old shot another 6 year old? Or a 10 year old shot his parents as they slept? Or a 13 year old murders his parents? Or parents that do unspeakable things to their children? What about all the drug use among children? When I was a youth councilor, I saw and heard things that would bring a tear to anyone that had any feeling in their heart. I saw evil up close when I saw a man strike a pregnant woman down to the ground because she had asked for some money to feed her starving 3 year old! I have seen many children suffer by the hands of liars that claimed to be helping them, and they did nothing more than take advantage of these little children. Or a company wrongfully accuses a person of eating something and throws them in jail! I guess eating in a restaurant is a crime of everyone that eats before paying, and when they go to pay, they are then thrown in jail. Is this proper? Is this the world you want to live in? Has it always been like this? Will it get better or worse? Today, you have people in high positions, that make more money than a hundred people in one year, and yet they still lie, cheat, and do wickedness. You have today, leaders of our own governments taking from the poor, and then putting the poor in jail when they try to feed their starving children. What was a worse crime after hurricane Katrina? The man that stole diapers for his 3-month-old baby, or when the police officer hit him over the head and nearly killed him for looting? What is the worse crime? A man accused of not paying for some small food item, or where managers take something that was already paid for and put it back on the shelf to be resold? Should I continue?

What is a real crime, when a young girl is accused of taking some makeup and taken to jail, and the very same police that took that young girl, goes back to a store across the street at a later time, and takes over $20,000 worth of computer products? Or what about a high-ranking justice person has prosecuted many people claimed to have messed with children, and yet this high-ranking person messes with his own two girls at home. These girls become so messed up, they try to kill themselves multiple times!

Should I go on? Do you want to hear more? Just turn on your local news and you will be entertained as watching a movie of the large amounts of crimes going on. Have any local shootings? Any drug users? Any rapes? Any crimes at all on your local news? Go to your local library and do some research from the past 20 years and tell me if there has been an increase or not?

By the way, check on the historic climb of environmental events too. Explain all these "record breaking" environmental events? Earthquakes, hurricanes, flooding and fires? Is this normal? Then explain why in some areas of our planet, where there are historic buildings that has been untouched by any of these events for thousands of years, all of a sudden destroyed by them in our time? Explain that?

There are many people I have quotes from that have told many in all parts of the world, "Nothing Has Ever Happen Like This Before"… "I have Never Seen Anything Like This Before"… and other statements like this. And these statements are from people that are in their 70's or 90's! So, I am sure they know the past events. I hurt when I see someone in pain or has suffered a great loss. How do you feel, when you see pictures of someone that has loss all they ever had? What about the children of the world. Did you know most events that I had spoken of in this response, most that have suffered are children? Do you care, or just say "I'm glad its not me, and think I'm glad I have my money"!

So, don't accuse me that I know not my faith or what I know to be the truth of my faith, I am not mad! It is you that go about like nothing is happening, allow yourselves to live in a "lala-land", a dream of "false-peace" that will never happen. There is only one peace, and that is with the Lord. I have seen many lives turned around because of the Lord and His words. I studied all of the faiths of the world, and even tried some of them, and "ALL" of them are worthless, except "ONE", and that is knowing Jesus and loving Him and Our Heavenly Father.

There is one and only one document that explains these events and why. This document recorded a person 2000 years ago, and it is happening just as he said it would. That person was Jesus Christ!

And I would like to speak one last thing in hopes the reader understands my perspective in referencing my faith. There has been many times I have heard people ramble on about a football player that scored a special touchdown, these people went on for years talking about that football player. I have even heard people talk about a baseball player that use to point to where he would hit the ball and that ball went exactly where he wanted it to. People have talked about that baseball player for over 40 years! What about people that spoke some words that everybody enjoyed hearing, say a leader? It is a strange thing that some people carry on like they do over what one person did or said, but reject the very words of the Creator's Son! Can man create life from nothing? Every technology we have today was developed from something the Creator already created? Name one thing that someone developed from direct scratch?

And something else, lets talk about evolution. Oh I am sure some have their skin turn at thought of what I might begin to say about this word. Makes me wonder why they hate anyone to challenge it, but its okay for them to say all kinds of things against the Bible. He's something that troubles me so, if evolution was fact? (And I was a student of evolution years ago, so don't tell me I know nothing of the theories or it's teachings). (I was one whom use to write the very word, "evolve" in many of my writings).

In order for evolution to be fact, as it so teaches, that everything is in the process of evolving, how come we do not see any evidence from the past and present? I have yet to discover any living "half dog/human" living today? It is almost to funny, that all this theories came out of a lizard that swam in a ocean and one that was on the land. Or one bird had a longer physical item than the other. Something that can be easily explained even today. Lets say, is there any humans that have a bigger lip than another? Or skin colors vary? What is the cause of this? Do you know? Is it some form of evolution? No, it is not! It has been well proven that mutations are the cause of genes, and can be easily seen in various race-partners that produce a child together. The child will reflect various elements of the parents. If evolution was fact, the child would have formed into a new creature or something other than the parents. Does this happen? From a biological perspective, does this happen? Can you tell if the child is anything than a human? Is the blood the same, is the DNA the same? Did the child begin to form into something other than human? Lets talk about findings of human remains thousands of years ago? Any change from today? Matter of fact they traced one of the DNA traces from a human remain of someone thousands of years ago to a actual living person! There was no change! Both DNA structures were human and could easily be recognized as human.

Okay, I think I have proved my point. My perspective is this. I feel very strongly that God is real. That Jesus is real. And God inspired the very words in the Bible. With that said, you will understand that all my writings will reflect my strong belief in one-way or another. I do not attack anyone, unless I am defending my faith or myself. I do not go out to hurt anyone. Let me explain if I may.

Last year I found a young man digging in a garbage can. He must have been in his mid-twenties. He asked me for some money to buy some food. I did better than that, I went out, yes to Wal-Mart, the very one that arrested me. (Keep in mind this was before the arrest). I bought the young man a pair of shoes, lots of food and some other personal items he needed. Plus, I gave him an extra $200. He kept thinking me and even began shouting to everyone in the store that I was a good Christian man. That I was the only one to ever help him in this manner. Then he cursed all of those that would never help him. Do you think this is the end of the story? Do you think I am just telling you this to have some form of twisted entertainment? I can tell you, I can find much better things to do than to write to you my troubles. But God has called me to do His work. Anyway, I told the young man if he needed anymore help to give me a call. To make a long story short, I tried to help him many times. Until I discovered he was using me and lying to me, that what ever money I could get for him was going towards drugs! Now, what would you do? You went out of your way to help someone, and discovered they were abusing your very kindness? Would you call the police? Have them arrested? It was in my right to do so. And I could have had the judge make him repay me every dime. No, I prayed for guidance and the Lord directed me to speak my peace about it and let him go, for God will deal with the young man.

That's the difference between a righteous man and a wicked man. A wicked man does not care about anyone else or what happens to him or her, they just want to crush whom ever they can. But a righteous person will go out of their way to discover the truth and then pray about what to do. And many times, God may call the righteous to fight, speak, listen or walk away. My purpose in this posting and the many updates I have done is not directly about me. It is not some formation of twisted elusion. It is about all the wrongs that are being done to others and me like me. It is about the prophecy that was spoken of 2000 years ago. It is about, the sparking of the light, to engulf the darkness. To open the eyes of the blind that wish to see. Not all will want to see. Not all will want to shine with the light, they will return back to the darkness. See, this is not about some small little nobody in South Carolina. I do not even put my full name of these postings.

It is about the larger battle going on, between light and dark. Good and evil. Have you noticed, that for the second time in two years in a row, that Mars, has been the closes in 60,000 years! Did you know Mars is referred to as the planet of WAR? Did you know the war has never ended between satan and God? It will continue until Jesus returns. Something kind of funny. Even the demons respected the position of Jesus when they begged Him not to torment them before the time. And Jesus gave them permission to go into the swine (pigs). What "before the time" were they referring to? Or do you know the meaning of swine? It is stating that the devils have an open market to take over anyone that is unclean, like swine! And the "before the time" is referring to the Latter Day, Judgment Day, Great Day of the Lord, Jesus return! (Mark 5 and Luke 8).

Do you know about the increase in satan worship and demonic possession lately? Need I mention "Harry Potter"? Take a count of how many movies and television programs has been broadcasted within this past year concerning the cult? Do you know? 2, 5, 10, 20? How many of those have very detailed and bloody scenes, of crushing bones, and other unspeakable things visually projected on the screen. And yet one movie, actually there were two, "The Passion" and the "Gospel According to John", had so much attention as being described as a horrible and violent movie. And what is even more strange is during the showing of these two movies, there were 3 very dramatically horror movies showing people being eaten, bloodied, and all kinds of terrorable things being shown.

So we come back to my earlier question. Why is it whenever someone uses a reference to the "B", "J", "G" and "C" words, that some want to call the writer "mad", "out of his mind", "need help" and so forth. But, you have publicly broadcasted references to satan, demons, bloodbaths and other things, and yet these same people say nothing against that. This I do not understand. Please be so kind to bring me understanding to this that troubles me so. Why? Why? Why?

Actually I know why. Do you want to know why? One of the reasons I found myself reading the Bible so much, is it had so many answers to many of my questions, if you just searched for it. I will not post my answer here, until I read some others if they dare answer the question, why they always attack someone that refers to God, Jesus, Bible, or Christ. And yet, they say nothing to the evil things being publicly produced. Please answer this if you dare.

I rest my case until then. Good night all. May God bless those who know Him, and hopefully those that refuse Him will learn that He has blessed you with your most valuable asset, your life! Thank about it. :P

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Sounds like there more to the story

They had enough proof to arrest you. Must have been on video. The Police wouldn't have arrested you if they didn't have some type of proof.
Also stop eating food before you pay for it. What would you have done if you didn't like the food?

That is a simple question, Jeff

It's because our "Thumpers" don't go around murdering thousands of innocent people at a time, or kidnap others and chop off their heads.

Is that answer simple enough for you?

It amazes me.......

It really amazes me when a Christian speaks out on his/her opinion concerning a horrific situation that had taken place with them when they bring religion into it. He has every single right to bring "God" into situation if he is a Christian. Its called Freedom of Speech! Thats not our place to decide whether he is or not. And it is not our place to judge him by his past/present. After all no one has the right to judge him for that is "Gods" place to do so. Not ours! We take religion out of our schools, govt..etc, Then we wonder why our society is the way it is today!

Todd... the best advice that I can give you is to "Let Go and Let God". For He will see you thru all of this and the truth will come out out in the end!

Shannon! You Must Have Missed My Point!

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Shannon,

You must have misread my update, in someway you write as agreeing to what I was trying to say, but then you speak as if I am against you or something.

Anyway, my point was that Wal-Mart, other companies, (people that do wickedness) against people for GREED and POWER, are very wrong. And my other point was there is actual proof that there is an increase in crimes, environmental events and so on. And yes, there are false Christians, as you also said.

Jesus and other Prophets in the Bible stated all of this, which would be a sign of His coming return. My point was trying to highlight that area. If you misread it, then I cannot help that, I am trying to respond to you so you understand.

And as far as people going over to Iraq, my brother, cuz'ns, and many other family and friends have been over there, or still there, and some have been injured and nearly killed. So your point on that, I know very well. Matter of fact, one of my family members that is a very strong Christian, which was teased by many of his army group about his Christianity, just like people on my post have teased me. Was the very one who saved all of them from a burning Humvee (not sure if spelled correctly). Now his army group, some of them, is asking him to teach him about his faith. Isn't awesome how God operates?

I did not say this to go off subject. But actually is part of my point. I post the way I do, because it is who I am. There is a major spiritual battle going on right now. Jesus is on His way and those who or on the other side will not be saved. You can either ignore what I say, respond back in an insulting manner, or simply go about your business. If what I say is "madness", then you have nothing to be worried, do you? For my words would be pointless, correct?

But, what if what I say is real, is correct? What if God and Jesus are real? The devil has played the best trick he could ever play, and that is to convince the world he is not real, therefore making the world think God and Jesus are not real.

Although, I have always studied the Bible and loved my Heavenly Father, I did have some background thoughts, if He was real. He allowed me to go around and try other worldly faiths, and other things to try and discover the truth. I could not understand praying to a man made statue and claiming that was God. It was lifeless, no breath, no life and man made it! I could not understand claiming there is no divine creator, when you have such complex structures, such as two cells that you cannot see form a living human body! I have seen so many evils of this world; I want nothing to do with it.

What I read in the Bible, is so wonderful, the LIGHT that Jesus promises is more than anything anyone else can promise. To me, I want that. To me, I live for that. To me, I want that to be real. To me, I have that hope of a better live. To me, I want that internal peace. And if I have to believe in the Bible, God and Jesus to get all of that, then I will and I did. I feel so much peace and love, like a huge void has been filled. There is really no words I can describe that feeling. There is nothing you or anyone else can say to insult me into not believing God and Jesus are real. My life has been convinced and I have become a rock on this subject. If you do not believe, that is your right. If you wish to go and pray to a stick in the mud and call it God, that is your right. So, do I attack your faith and your right for that? No. So, why attack mine? Why is it that whenever someone speaks of Jesus or God, swarms of people start attacking that person. But, interestingly, some people come to the aid of that person. So, all it not lost.

And yes, I know many come claiming to be followers of Christ and are nothing more than crushers of your faith. A good book to read is "He Came To Set The Captives Free" by Rebecca Brown, MD... The book is real scary, talking about people that are so close to satan that they become deformed, and things. If you want to read a real scary book, then read that one. Mrs. Brown claims the book was written as a real event. But the core of the story talks about how the inner battle of good and evil are going on in this world. It talks about how companies, educational systems, governments and elements as these are used to destroy us and cause us to leave the faith. If you do not care about anything I am saying, it is a good book to read none the less. There is another book, "Fast Facts About False Teachings", that is also a very good book to read.

I am reading a new book, "Judgment Day", that just came out where it talks about details of governments engaging wrongs against people. Not sure about what to say about it, since I just started reading it.

Anyway, I hope I have cleared up the air of the point of my posting. Interestingly, after I had posted my update last night, I read where a grandmother had stabbed her 2-year-old granddaughter so many times; the police could not recognize her human body. Many police officers that have been on the force over 30 years have never seen anything like that before.

All of this is madness, and it is the first time in history, that I know. Other people I have interviewed also state this is the first time these kinds of increased crimes have ever been going on. Interestingly, if you research people over 3000 thousand years ago, you will discover they were just as cruel. Again, Jesus said, towards the end, and near His return, the time will be like the time of Noah. If you read in the Bible the details of the people during that time, it is like picking up a daily newspaper today. The similarities are just almost unbelievable.

Oh, and for the record, every time I hear or read of some wrongs being done to someone, I am very emotional, and when little children are the victims I do cry. I am man enough to state that here! Where is your voices for those little children? You agreesivally attack my posting because I use Bible references, but yet you do not say anything of the wrongs that has been going on. What about United Way taking millions of money that was donated for those little children in Asia after that Tidal Way hit? Where is your voice for them? My voice is here and other websites like this. I will be there voice, and for the wrongs that has been done to many people like myself. Whenever the manager heard I was a Christian, I could see his anger towards me. At that point, that is when discrimination came into play! But say whatever you wish, I know the truth and the truth will be known. God will give me victory.

And every time I remember my little son's eyes, crying at what Wal-Mart was doing to his mommy, and me, I become very upset. I should have never been treated that way! I do not care what any of you post by stating that Wal-Mart was correct in treating me that way. That is wrong!

When some people respond to my posting in stating I deserved to be treated that way over something I did not do. And even if I did, that treatment is way out of line! Wal-Mart refused to listen to reason and took me down for a blown-up, made-up, false charge and treated my family and me wickedly. Bottom line, my son was so scared he thought the police were going to shoot his mommy! I remember hearing him ask, "Mommy is the man with the gun going to shoot you?"

I also remember, my son coming into the room and asking me why am I handcuffed. Did I do something wrong! He also said, Daddy you always teach me to not do wrong, why are they saying you are doing wrong?

SO GET OFF MY BACK!!! Yes, I am emotional about this! Yes, I will continue to highlight my faith in my postings! Yes, I will continue to fight those evil punks all the way to the Supreme Court if I have to. And even if this wicked world does not give me justice, I know Jesus will!

So, don't through all this responses back at me telling me I did wrong and deserved the treatment I got. I have seen drug dealers standing on school corners treated much better than I was. I have seen murders treated much better. So, don't come back on me saying I am crazy or insane! I am not, I am mad that is for sure. And God has given me one awesome attorney that is going to tear a new hole in Wal-Mart that is for sure. God has promised me Victory, and when that happens I will post it here. PLUS, it would be one thing if I was the only one that this has happen to, but as I have already stated in other postings, Wal-Mart has done this to hundreds of people!

Oh, let me say something else. Wal-Mart is getting ready to be hit with a MAJOR lawsuit. I'm talking about BILLIONS, if not TRILLIONS, in a sex discrimination class action case. Now, are you still thinking God is not angry with this company? Still thinking this company is a "La-La-Goodie" company? If you recall in some of my prior postings, I said, I am a true man of God, and God will punish Wal-Mart what they did to me and others like me. Still wondering if that is going to happen? Still wondering if my words are real or not? You'll see, more will happen, I promise you. There is a major difference between a false-Christian talking "bla-bla", and a true man of God speaking the truth. The Bible says, that what a true man of God says, comes 100% true, then he is a real man of God. So, we will see. Still wondering? Still angry at my words? It is not me you are angry with, it is God you are angry with.

Don't get me wrong, I am commanded to forgive, and I have done so. That does not say, I am not to go forward and punish Wal-Mart for the wrongs they have done, in hopes they repent and stop doing wrong to people. Wal-Mart has not asked for forgiveness, matter of fact they want more blood from me. If my case is the tool God is using to stop Wal-Mart and other companies from doing these wrong against people, then so be it. I am not scared of them.

I hope and pray I have cleared up my point and you understand what I was trying to say. I am sure if I was talking to you would understand. A message board is good in some areas, but can cause confusion. Face-to-face talking would have cleared many things up.

Bye for now...
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The Question Comes To Mind...

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The question comes to mind, some people say, stop talking about things of wrong doing. If I did, if Jesus did, if Paul did, or any of the Prophets in the Bible did. Would anyone know about the wrongs? Or even care? Would the hope of any change take place? Or would it stay the same? I will not stop, unless God calls me directly to stop. I know God has called me to post the things I have posted. The truth has to be known.

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I was wondering

After reading all of this I have just one question.

Why is it we Americans are so concerned with fundamentalist religious extremism in the Middle East when we already have plenty of it in our own backyard.

Todd has a history of false claims and suits! BEWARE

I googled "Todd Whatley, South Carolina, Walmart" and found a case where he is suing the DMV where he used to work. I know it is him because on page three is states something to the effect of 'Mr. Whatley describes himself as a devout Christian..' and goes on from there.

There is also one where he is in a civil case with his homeowner's association. There are so many suits and complaints filed by this man. I believe that HE believes his story, but I also know how perception works, and that a troubled mind can distort facts.

By the many many cases that you can find from googling his name, you'll realize that this is a disturbed individual, and not because he is a Christian, because I too am one, but because of his obsessiveness (about anything). I've been reading this thing for over 4 hours, and I am seriously concerned for his family, or at least his wife. Heres why:

In one of his early posts (maybe the third or fourth) he mentions how Walmart employees singled him out because they saw a Christian man with his kids and wife, who ALLOWED his wife to browse and shop. I think he means that employees may have noticed his male dominance display over his wife and did not appreciate it. NO I AM NOT A FEMINIST, but this guy is definately a believer in the man-dominant, female-submissive stuff (as taught in the OLD Testament). Well, if that's what he AND his wife believe in, so be it, but he should relize that it does attract negative attention. He has said that his wife is Asian, and someone on here said she is a mail-order bride? That may be innaccurate, but that would explain her submission to his 'permitting' her to shop, though in some Asian cultures, men do play a dominant role in relationships, so who knows?

Anyway, Google him. It will lay your mind to rest about whether or not his case has/had a solid foundation.

BTW, I do not work for Walmart, I am a full-time Mental Health and Human Services Student at UMA here in Maine.

This has gone on far enough

This crap has gone on far enough, walmart does fasely accuse people of shop lifting It Is happening all over the country they are a rip-off. All walmart cares about Is money & how many lives they can ruin.

Walmart Is scum they are a lot of walmart complaints around the country fasely accusing people of shop lifting walmart has rude custormer service the walmart pharmacy In my area Is horrible.

There labor practices also suck look @ how they treat there own employees, there was a walmart manager on here threatening a former employee for making a report agaisnt them.

The manager told the employee they need to forget about there past wages cause they will never get them & they will force them into personal bankruptcy how dare them.

You can go to other places besides walmart for food & other things, nobody has to be mistreated.

Also people on this site defending walmart are also childish.

Funny

Since you Charles continue to post update after update after update about your tirade against anyone who has "hurt" you or poor mommy
Get a life, get a job, get a grip
You are a boil on the butt of humanity

WalMart is planting their people in the government! Run!

Tinfoil hat time!

Fact: Michelle Obama served on a board of a company whose largest client was WalMart.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1551441/Obama-called-hypocrite-for-wife%27s-Wal-Mart-link.html

Fact: During the campaign, Obama named a WalMart defender as his economic policy director:

http://www.nysun.com/national/obama-taps-wal-mart-defender-as-director/79665/

Obvious conclusion: WalMart has people in the highest levels of government! They will make it illegal to shop anywhere else and force Obama to invade other nations so that WalMart suppliers can open up sweatshops there!

How diabolical!

David Koresh murdered nobody

The FBI and BATF did all of the killing. They could have knocked on the door and handed him the arrest warrant. The Sheriff in Waco said they could have done like he did, called David and asked him to come in. The guy went running into town everyday. They could have picked him up then, while he was on his morning jog.

But noooooooooo. Janet Reno had to make a name for himself, and have the BATF try and invade the house in a second story window. That agent got tagged, just as anyone trying to enter my house through a window would. Next up were tanks. Yep...that's what everyone needs to knock on a door...a tank. The agents were shooting at everyone trying to leave the burning house...real nice. Nope, the Federal Government killed the Branch Davidians. This was also the same group of idiots who went to Ruby Ridge Idaho to kill a 13 year old boy and his mother, after they set up the father for a shotgun that was a whole 1/4 inch too short. Great guys, the Clinton Gang.

As for Jim Jones, he was nuts, and so were his followers. They killed a Congressman or two, but who doesn't dream of doing that? The group as a whole, comitted suicide. They did not go out and make wholesale murder part of their religion.

Robert in Jax:

I take it you've never heard of the Army of God. This is a Kansas based group that promotes violence toward abortion providers. Several of their members are incarcerated for felonies, which include 1st degree murder & arson. They even refer to the killing of a physician in Florida as a "termination procedure".

The 700 club's Pat Robertson recently advocated the assassination of Venezuela's president.

Have you ever heard the Rev. Fred Phelps Jr. speak? He truly believes that God hates homosexuals. He also operates a website that keeps a running count on "how many days Matthew Shepard has been in Hell".

President Reagan was supplying Saddam Hussein with Bubonic Plague & Anthrax strains at the same time Saddam was using them on the Kurds.

The point of my original post was not to engage anyone in a religious/political smear fest, but to point out that just as the Arab States have Muslim followers who gladly twist and distort religion to suit their own desires, we have Christian followers who do the same thing here. Todd has not killed anyone, but he feels as though God, Jehovah, Providence, Yahweh, etc. has called upon him personally to speak up against Wal*Mart. Frankly, I think Todd enjoys the fact that by invoking the name of God here, he gets immediate sympathy from others who are sincere in their beliefs, and may not understand his depravity.

BTW, I don't believe one word of Todd's story.

wal mart

hi first off ill continune to shop at wal mart just beause it makes more economic sense. and its the only place in my town to buy a movie. unless u want to drive an hour away to a mall. i dont think they persecuted your religous beliefs by doing that they probably didnt even know your religion. i dont think they are an evil company just a few certain individuals dont make up the whole company. with lawsuits thats the way some people make their living find anything and everything to sue about. i know you'll probably say im not christian and all but i am. i go to church. im a member of campus crusade for christ. i think it was just that manager and cop that are the bad apples not wal mart as a whole. as far as class action law suits they happen all the time with big companies i dont think it will break them since they are a billion dollar company. and as far as iraq i say bush should try to fix problems here such as unemployment, economy, before going into another country trying to run things fix our own problems first. oh and im not an employee or anything so cant use that against me either just a college student.

Murdering "Thumpers"

"It's because our "Thumpers" don't go around murdering thousands of innocent people at a time, or kidnap others and chop off their heads.

Is that answer simple enough for you?

Robert - Jacksonville, Florida
U.S.A."

How about David Koresh? Remember Jim Jones?

Oh excuse me, these guys just murder their own followers.

Todd...if that is your real name, doesnt the Bible say TELL THE TRUTH???

Its very interesting the way you have manipulated every single individual reading your posts, the way you dragged your so called "faith" into it was hillarious if your out right insulting the intelligence of everyone subjected to read your incredible recount of a made up tale.
The fact of the matter is, the incident you claim to have taken place at Walmart NEVER occured! There is no proof in any public files in that Police Dept. and there is no knowledge of that event recollected by ANY employee of that Wal-Mart.

Moreover, it is my belief you simply made up this whole thread to rant about your "Faith" - you are one illiterate minister at a small church who is seeking attention, STOP using Christianity for your selfish reasons, and get off your computer and change the "wrongs" with yourself first before criticizing others and the entire country.

Not only have you proved over and over in this whole thread that you could not stick to the facts you mentioned in your previous posts. One or two variables ALWAYS change when you retell your incident, where this really happend, you would be able to keep up with the facts.

Hypocrits like yourself are the reason the "wrongs" you mention are not corrected in a period of over 3000 years.

Blind Leading The Blind... After 2000 Years It Is Still Going On...

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Hi Jeff and Others Like Him,

1. I would like to ask if you have ever read the Bible? My references to God bringing me victory and what He will do to the wicked is not my words, they are His.

" And I will execute great vengeance upon them with furious rebukes; and they shall know that I am the LORD, when I shall lay my vengeance upon them" (Ezekiel 25:17, KJV).

" Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord" (Romans 12:19, KJV).

" In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ" (2 Thessalonians 1:8, KJV).

Need I say more on this subject? Let's move on, shall we.

2. It is a proven fact what I say is the truth as to what happen. Frankly, I do not care if you think I am speaking the truth or not. Others know what I say is the truth and when God brings me the victory, I will post all details on this thread.

"For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart" (Hebrews 4:12, KJV).

3. I am not some crazy small town fanatic screaming out some deluded fairytale story! The fairytale is your imagination that nothing is going on and life is this happy-go-lucky world. I just read some new reports of at least five major crimes against children. Oh, wait a second; you say I am making up everything. Am I making those things up too?

"For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind" (2 Timothy 1:7, KJV).

4. If Wal-Mart is such a nice company, why then have they not paid their workers properly? Oh, and what about the lie they told publicly, that they would start giving out health benefits to workers. And the same second the lie was being told; a top CEO was sending a memo to top heads to only hirer healthy people! Am I making that up too? A nice movie to watch that is out now is called, North Country (I think is the name)… This is based on a true story, or will you say this is a "dream team" too.

5. Am I making up the BILLION$ worth of lawsuits that came against Wal-Mart where they lost of doing the same evils they did to me? Am I correct in saying so?

6. Where is it that my facts have changed within this thread? Some of my updates may have strong details and some may just have teasers (old production term for brief description of a topic). It is very simple, man goes with family to Wal-Mart, is approved to eat some food before paying (just like at any iHOP, Ryan's, Applebee's, etc), told to take price stickers to cash register after all shopping, gave everything to cashier, paid, (son had to go to restroom, large storm coming), (lots of people, noise, so on), asked the cashier to make sure everything was scanned, confirmed by cashier, walked out, falsely accused, falsely imprisoned, etc... Family humiliated, screamed at, threatened, etc... Taken to a far off prison where noone could find me, not even the judge when my family demanded my right for a bond hearing! Oh, did I leave anything out? Oh, yeah, the "made-up" five page rap sheet! There are other things, but I'll leave that for now.

Now, for those of you that have trouble-reading threads, read back at all my updates and reference it back to this one, is it the same? Does it have the same meaning? I do not say in one update it was Target, and I was with my girlfriend, or was it at Radio shack? Oh, no, I tell the truth exactly what happen every time. I may forget one detail from another; hey show me someone that can remember every single detail of something that happen 8 months ago? Do you remember what you were doing? I am sure if some big black dog bit your hand over five years ago you would remember that correct? You may not remember every detail, or some things may come here and come there, but the core of the issue is the same every time you tell it. Our human minds are programmed to remember "shockers", that's why when we try to remember things; we go over them over and over again. That is why I read the Bible all the time, so I know how to live. You should try it some time. You will see a whole new light about life.

"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places" (Ephesians 6:12, KJV).

7. There are some crazies out there that are false Christians. I just read a report about a man and woman was walking in the cold, butt-naked, with there two children. The police later discovered these wak-o's, had just murdered their little girl thinking she was a demon. They stabbed her so many times, the knife broke. They then covered her with Bible pages.

This matter and ones like it, is where people are so messed up, and have been used by satan to cause harm to the truth of Christianity. Just like in times of old, where people claimed to be Christian and went and dressed up like a Knight and murdered women and children. Where does Christ tell a Christian to do that?

"Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils" (1 Timothy 4:1, KJV).

"Let no man despise thy youth; but be thou an example of the believers, in word, in conversation, in charity, in spirit, in faith, in purity" (1 Timothy 4:12, KJV).

When I say I will take a stand, I am talking about not allow those that have done me wickedly to walk all over me and I say nothing about it. Actually, God commands me in the Bible to tell people of the wickedness they do. That is a direct commandment. God says if I do not, and they are later punished by Him, their blood is on my hand for not doing my duty. Now, don't get me wrong, I speak my peace about it and respond accordingly in a proper manner and then let the seeds fall where they may. If the wicked after hearing my warning continue their evilness, and then they are punished, my hands are clean because I did what I was commanded to do.

Do you think I am just writing this for my own amusement? Do you think it is written in the Bible that God commands His followers to do this duty? Should I quote the scripture reference here? Let's say this, go out and find a Bible, read it and search for it, and if you do not find that commandment, let me know, (Has to be a King James Version), Do you understand this? I am serious, go out and see if you can "NOT FIND" where God commands His servants, followers, people, to tell the wicked what they are doing wrong, and if God's people did not do this command, the wicked's blood will be on God's people. Do you understand?

"And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming" (2 Thessalonians 2:8, KJV).

Do you understand my position now? I love God with all my heart. I will do His will, not mine. God commands me to post what has happen here and what wickedness Wal-Mart has done to others and me. We are talking about the King of the Universe! This is His order to me. I will not break this commandment for nothing!

"And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power" (1 Corinthians 2:4, KJV).

You can either acknowledge the truth or deny it that is your right. But that does not change the truth or my right to post the truth.

Lastly, let me say something here. The Bible says for you to test the spirit in order to know if they are from God or not. I wonder if you know what the test is? If you did, then you would know if I am of God or not. Any spirit that is not of God will fail the test that is the law, period!

Should I give the test? God also tells me not to waist my message on blind ears, but because I know others are reading this thread and many of them know what I am talking about, I will post the test so they know I am truth. "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" (John 8:32).

Here is the test:

"Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error" (1 John 4:1-3,6, KJV).

Here is my test:

I confess I believe and know Jesus Christ has come in the flesh, died for our sins, rose on the third day, and only through Him can we be saved!

I rest my case for now…

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Yea, its wrong.

Okay, if you CONSUME anything before you pay for it, it IS stealing! Even if you intent on paying for it. Until the transaction is complete, the food you are eating is PROPERTY of wal-mart. They Deli gives you the packages, and you pay at the checkout's. The deli's do NOT have cash registers there. It is not a restaurant. Just because they "HANDED" you the food, it is still not yours. You don't pay for chips or soda before you pick them up and put them in the cart, but they are NOT yours until you PAY for them, which you did NOT do.

Eating in the store

When I lived in Kentucky, I used to see people munching on goodies while they shopped. In Tennessee, I've seen where parents open a box of animal crackers for junior to eat as they shopped. In Texas, there was wholesale munching of foods before being bought.

Here in Arizona, I actually bought a burrito, paid for it in the deli, chit chatted with the deli person, and munched on it as I shopped (it was during my lunch hour) and when I was leaving the store, a wal-mart employee stopped me and accused me of stealing.

He said they had all these camera shots of me eating a burrito and then just walking out of the store without paying for it. I asked him is he also had camera shots of me paying for the burrito in the deli and he said no.

I pulled out the receipt from my pocket and he claimed that the time stamp was for earlier in the day - duh! I pushed my buggy over to the deli and asked the deli person if she remembered me paying for my burrito and she said "Of course", the wal-mart fart then just stormed off. When I went back a few days later, I was informed that they had terminated the deli person for telling the truth.

I also found out from a couple other wal-mart employees that they've been told that if they call in sick any time between now and the new year, they will be terminated. Most of the wal-mart employees I've talked to are Moms and Dads and if junior gets sick and has a temp of 104, well, guess who gets terminated.

Remember, the seeds you sow is the harvest you reap.

WAKE UP!!!

What really struck me about this guy, was how many times he declared himself to be a "good" or "devoute" christian. My father used to lease real estate, and after a few years, stopped leasing to anyone who made these assertions (always unbidden, by the way). Everyone (not most--everyone) who talked about their christianity left owing money, or having trashed the property.

Second, he seems to be building in a concession that he may have, in fact, done what Wal-Mart is accusing him of. He repeatedly refers to his "illness," and even mentions that he would have been willing to pay "if by my illness I had forgotten something." Either he knows that he is right, or he doesn't. By the way, my personal experience is that those who repeatedly refer to their illnesses often belong in the same category as those who refer to their christianity.

FInally, I just want to say that those of you who are blaming Wal-Mart in this need to wake up!!! It just does not pass the sanity check that Wal-Mart, the police, and the courts would waste their time on a situation that was so clearly a simple mistake or misunderstanding. Our prisons are filled with completely innocent, ill, devout christian people, whose stories are similar to this guy's.

To stacy

Have you realized that your nasty comments doesn't hurt me you are the one harassing me. Also stacy quit bothering people here on rip-off report & causing them more grief.

Because nobody cares what you have to say so your nasty & hateful comments doesn't bother me.

All you do Is bother & harass people on rip-off report & think you can abuse me well you have no right to. Go get a better hobby besides harassing people on rip-off report.

I could careless what you think or anyone else, but you are to stubborn to realize that, sense you feel you have the right to be so judgemental of people & harass people for no good reason.

Start from the beginning....

Ok Todd,
First, I don't like Wal Mart. So, having said that, I need to get to the meat of this.

Do you realize that you admitted to theft? I read you post and it is that cut and dry. YOU ADMITTED TO THEFT! And you also said that you had done it many times in the past. Opening and consuming something without paying for it is THEFT. No defense.

You said that you were arrested and taken to another county. This is where my BS meter went off the scale. I'll give you some of my background; BPA degree, over 15 years in business management punctuated by stints as a police officer. I also hold private investigation licenses from Texas and Arkansas.

I have NEVER seen a shoplifter go to jail UNLESS they were disorderly or combative. Come to think of I have never heard of it happening either. As to being taken to another county, I have to tell you that I believe that to be pure BS. I just don't believe that. And here's something else; you said that they told you that you had a five page rap sheet. And you said that you had never been in jail. Well, that means that someone else has YOUR birthdate, name and SSN! That is impossible! As to the complaint about your rights; you are Mirandized at you arraignment if you have been arrested for a minor misdemeanor. Not at the time of arrest. If you had been arrested on a felony charge, your rights would have been read to you right then.

Now, my biggest gripe about this whole story of yours is you started out telling all of us how much of a Christian you are. What difference does that make? Preachers are the biggest thieves and liars around...next to politicians. I am aware that Jesus said that if we deny Him before men He would deny us before the Father. And I believe that. But people that wear "Christianity" like a banner usually have something to hide. I know that from hard experience. My wife (2nd by the way. The 1st was a good "Christian" that screwed every man AND woman that she could and stole everything that she got her hands on) works at Wal Mart. I know that the company sucks but, they do not have an anti-Christian agenda and they didn't pick on you because you are a Christian so stop with suffering martyr attitude. As I said before, you stole. That may not have been your intention, but you stole.

Todd, face reality. Grow up.

Indeed!

Look, I am no WalMart employee, or even apologist, and unlike some, I do not believe that my Faith carries any weight in an argument such as this one.

Still no Case number
Still no Jurisdiction
Still no Judge

The letter from "God Smith" literally made my side hurt from laughing!

Thanks.

Just what are you hiding??

Todd,
I just found out some VERY interesting information. It seems that you had a law suit against your former employee, the South Carolina DMV (Civil Action No. 3:05-0042-JFA-JRM) and it didn't go very well did it?

To all of you Todd supporters......
Mr. Christian virtue here did sue his former employer and the case was "dismissed with prejudice" by Federal Judge Joseph P. Anderson, Jr. because ole' Todd here decided not to comply with a court order to produce his tax records. And from what I read from the court documents (which can be Googled) he was given quite a bit of time to produce those records but he kept giving the defendants and the court one excuse after the other. His OWN ATTORNEY requested that the court remove him because Todd had willfully avoided discovery. And the court determined that Todd "acted in bad faith" in the discovery process.

To put it simply, Todd LIED! Several times. And his lies caught up with him. The case was dismissed on January 10, 2007. Todd, you are not a TRUE Christian. Christian means to be "Christ like." You are like the thieves that rob BILLIONS of dollars from people everyday on TBN. God has a special place in Hell for people like YOU!!

This thread just keeps getting better.

Even if Walmart takes over the world, so what? Something is going to take over this world eventually. What's bad for some is great for others.

Not only that...

Todd didn't like an assignment he was given, went on leave and didn't return. When his employment was terminated due to budget cuts, Todd claimed religious discrimination.

Go to work with a recorder

Bob

My Dad used to work at a walmart in springfeld Ill and in Batesvill Ark and he had to writ things down to cath walmar mangers age discriminating, If I had to work for a walmar I would had a voice activated recorder and a pad of paper and a pencile, but with reading what I read I guess just to be safe, next time I enter a walmart make sure that I do not do anything that could look bad, and check my pocket before I leave the store, you just never know with out thinking some one could put something small in there pocket and BAM!!! you in the big house, so the old ARMY saying of stay alert stay alive applys here. Sir I hope the one that is accused of eating and not paying wins this case and proves his innocents and I whish this site had a spell check because as you can tell I need it, go figuer I am now living in ARKANSAS

No Pay, No Eat

Dear Devout Christian:

You of all people should know it is a sin to take, or eat something that dosn't belong to you. You have abused your freedom as a customer of Wal-Mart. You have abused your previlages as a consumer to take merchandise, consume it with your family prior to your purchase. You committed the crime before you reached the register. You put yourself in the same position as those who eat and do not pay. You put yourself in the same position as those who eat food and place it back on the shelf. You took property that did not belong to you and willingly, knowingly, without remorse comsumed it. It's wrong. Pay before you eat. Wal-Mart is a business, not the Salvation Army on Thanksgiving Day. As a Christian you should be setting a better example for all to follow. Shame on you!

That Is The Multi-Billion Dollar Question...

Hi O'tria,

That is the question I keep asking myself... why, why, why???

I did nothing wrong and was even willing to pay for the mistake, even though it was not my mistake. Or I guess you could say, my mistake was trusting Wal-Mart as a good, customer service company and I should have researched the internet first and I would have found Ripoffreport and known the truth before hand.

But I guess, God wanted me to discover this horror for myself and become one of the voices for others unable to speak out. Boy, the people I am discovering that has been done wrong by Wal-Mart... it is very sad...

The worse case I can find is the poor lady that died in jail over the shock of the whole issue. They made her stay in jail many days, and she never did anything!!!

Whatever happens to Wal-Mart and other companies over this wickedness, they did it to their own greediness and wicked nature.

They will learn not to treat people this way and get away with it, sooner or later, they will pay the piper. God does not like ugly (wrongdoing)!

Anyway, thanks for your post. These past few posts have been very interesting to learn of others horror stories.

WoW

I was in this same Wal-Mart me and my daughter last winter. I brought blankets in with me to keep my daughter warm until we got inside the store. Being that it was crowded we had to park a great bit of walking distance. Once inside I remove the blankets from her and put them inside the cart. We got pampers and baby wipes. I picked up a childrens movie to give to my daughter to have something to play with while I looked around. When I got to the cash register I paid for the pampers and baby wipes. I had forgotten all about the movie until the buzzard went off while I was leaving. When my cart got checked by the greeter the movie was underneath my daughters blanket. I apologize and was allowed to go back to the register to pay for the movie. No body ask questions, no police came, and I definitely wasn't taking to jail. It was a mistake and oversight on my part. So how come you wasn't justified the same way.

Lori, comparing apples and oranges

Since you're unable to comprehend the DIFFERENCE of situation between your "friend" and TODD's (where he admitted that he stole), your friend was innocent. Todd isn't.

Get a grip Lori.

Ironically of your statement...

DANNY:

Ironically of your statement, the fact still remains. Let me enlighten you of the similar situation. Lori's story, my story and a others posted here make it very clear, even a child could understand… So I will try my best to communicate to you in a first-grade level… A corporation abuses its power, to entrap and entangle customers, in order to satisfy their twisted views and personal agenda. Does that assist the definition?

Unlike your character slandering of me, because I tend to use Christ and Biblical references within my communication, does not constitute the fact that there is something wrong with companies like Wal-Mart. That also does not provide justification of what Wal-Mart did to me. Plus your statement of my postings is false! I never said I stole anything! I never operated surreptitiously or with the intent to steal.

And is it logical to state how could I admit to doing something wrong when I never did anything wrong? Just because you and a small amount of God haters and Wal-Mart lovers post aggressively on this website, does not define the rest of us to follow your brain-dead examples. We all have minds and know how to use them if we wish to!

The next time you go eat at a local restaurant, don't start crying if the police are called in to arrest you because you sat down and began eating the food before paying after you walked into the store! If Wal-Mart's policy is to entrap customers, then they need to take a strong look at the Federal Laws! Oh did I mention the Constitution or the Bill Of Rights? Or maybe you were out surfing the big-wave while your high school teacher was teaching about that subject.

Oh yeah, that's right, public schools do not teach those subjects anymore, because the founding fathers were Christian and often quoted Biblical references. Instead they teach, what, sex education and how to say no to drugs… It is good that some smart parents are taking charge of the situation and spending time educating their children at home in addition to the public schools. Otherwise you would see children killing children, children killing parents, parents killing children, drug abuse, teenager pregnancies and moral decay.

Martin Luther stated it very clearly: "I would advise no one to send his child where the Holy Scriptures are not supreme. Every institution that does not unceasingly pursue the study of God's word becomes corrupt."

Oh, wait, that is happening now…

If people do not start speaking out about these abuses, then the situation will just keep getting worse. You may not care with your Wal-Mart salary, but there is a growing movement of concerned people, like Lori and myself, blowing the trumpet. Some may not know how to speak out, so Lori, a few others, and myself are taking the stand and that is what scares you the most.

If and when God blesses me with extra funding, I will give some to this website for their efforts in keeping the freedom of speech, (free)! You do not see me seeking out your postings and screaming out slanderous fornications because I did not like your references! Anyway, enough wasting my pearls on you… my objective was to chat with Lori.

LORI:

I am glad to hear your friend is okay, I'll pray for her and her child. I am glad I was not there or I would have been punching out some people! I guess that is why God allowed me to be in handcuffs, when that twisted police officer was verbally abusing my wife. But hey, he will get his reward when my attorney is done with him.

When my case is done, I will put most of the details here. You will see how awesome God is and how He looks out for us all. We have so much evidence against Wal-Mart all they can do is delay… let them delay until Judgment Day, either way, if they do not repent and make things right, they will burn in the fire.

Todd's case has likely concluded.

Other than his rambling, borderline incoherent, fanatical sermons, Todd has not provided anyone with an update on his case in months. I presume he either plea bargained to a lesser charge or was found guilty.

Articulate please...

Todd,

I have read this thread for many months, and after your initial message I came away with this. You cheated Wally-World and got caught. GET OVER IT.

Please articulate on the people who are, "unable to speak out."

Did they have their tongues cut out because they are heretics? Mutes? Lepers? What gives?

Take personal responsibility for YOUR actions, and STOP blaming others for YOUR mistake.

The evil of the world is made possible
by nothing but the sanction you give it.

Sue the pants off them Todd

My prayers are with you and your family Todd on this whole ordeal. Wal-Mart and their so called security is a joke!! Let me inform all these Wal-Mart lovers what they did to a friend of mine. She was 8 months pregnant and went to Wal-Mart to pick up some groceries, her husband, a deputy sheriff, dropped her off because he had to run a few quick errands at another shopping center across the street. She finished her shopping and on the way out, was approached by security. They claimed that she stole a ham and had it stuffed up under her blouse. She explained to them that she is pregnant, and being the modest person that she is, she wouldn't raise up her blouse in front of everyone. They wouldn't listen. These jerks dragged her to the security office and threw her into a chair. In the security office, she did raise her blouse and showed them that she was pregnant. Security kept saying, that they know she stole a ham, it's on tape and what did she do with it. They would not let her go. Her husband arrived a short time later, couldn't find her in the store anywhere, fearing something had happened to her, he contacted store security, and was told she was in their office because of shoplifting. When he arrived in the security office, they had no idea he was a police officer, they accused him of being in on this whole thing. He pulled out his badge and boy did they start to back pettle. All this stress caused her to go into labor and that night she gave birth to a pre-mature baby boy, who is doing fine now. They are suing and I hope everyone who is wrongfully accused by these jerks does the same. GOD BLESS!!!

Dont blame you for being mad.

Todd, I would also be very upset if the same thing happened to me. Have you talked with the district attorney about this? Have you talked with the Mayor & City Council where this happened? How about the Chief of Police, although he/she would probably be in favor of the jerk cop. I would ask for a meeting with the Mayor, city council, and Police Chief, OH and make sure the media is there.

Have you went to the local news papers, radio stations, and TV stations? Have you made sure that Wal Mart corporate knows about this? Have you contacted a lawyer? Do you have the receipt? What other witnesses can you produce? These big guys think they can get away with treating us little guys like this, DONT LET THEM!

Good Luck!

John

After All Of This...

...I almost....almost...yes almost feel sorry for Wal-Mart.

Not that I care one bit to enter any of their stores, for my own personal reasons unrelated to anything mentioned or discussed in this thread, I will have to say that I have taken much of what has been related under advisement.

My wife has a habit of taking a soft drink from the cooler in the grocery store, and sipping on it while she does her shopping, always paying for it at the register, even if the bottle is empty.

I've advised her to refrain from doing it in the future...even though it has never been questioned by a soul in the past.

As to Todd and his credibility...well...I'd say that it has been shot to aaach eeeee double tooth picks. He had a good job, and despite all his intended devotion to the man upstairs, apparently no intervention to save the day was on the table.

I tell ya'...there are some people in this world that will never get it, even if you take a baseball bat and try to beat it into them.

It's really hard to feel sorry for them, isn't it?

forgot to add a few things

wanted to add some things to my response. as far as not being judemental i say todd is because i saw in one thread how he accused of one person basically being the devil for spouting back scripture to him.i guess whomever doesnt share his views about wal mart is equal to being the devil to him. which is not the case. if anyone else doesnt share in his views of anything is not a christian to him.

Joe, you missed the point of the original poster

Todd got caught stealing inside Walmart, and probrably a lot more. He's diverted attention away from the original post by giving sermons instead of just telling us what has happened since the event. He won't give enough detail as to why he was carted off in the first place, but instead implies the Devil's is working in Walmart, and demons are running amok in the Police Department and court system. He doesn't care that he's making Christians look like kooks so he's obviously not as Christian as he makes out. I think he's going for the looney-tunes defense.

Is The World As Educated As They Think They Are?

Tis, Tis… These last few post are so far out of what I posted it does not even deserve the time for me to respond. Any educated readers, which there are some, have even responded in the past, but then unless you look for them it is hard, because of all these other uneducated postings smother the good responders.

I never said I was perfect, and no one is, except Christ and look what the World did to Him. Plus, I have never changed my story by going into a Christian frenzy. Just read my very first post and what is the FIRST words do I write? Just in case you are to LAZY to read back to my first posting, here it is for you, "I am a devout Christian"!

So from these very first FIVE words, the reader will know that I speak as a person devoted to the Bible and Christ. It irks me whenever someone other than a Christian can ramble on about a "Sun-god", or a "Essence of Everything", or a "Stick in the Mud", the world does not have a problem. But whenever someone starts to talk about JESUS, the world ramps together to shut the person up. I can just hear the famous words, "Crucify Him", "Crucify Him"!

The last time I checked, we still have freedom of speech. I know a few are trying to take that away, but for now, I still have it. So, by reading my first FIVE words, you still continued into the door of my posting and read it. Since you entered my house, you should have the manners to just leave without trying to insult me. The first five words are clearly posted and "warn or encourage" readers to either continue to enter or just leave.

I would never enter your home and begin insulting you. I would just kindly leave. Interestingly, a report was just published that said Americans and other countries are becoming "RUDER" each year. Not caring about others as they use to. Just look at the disrespect some people have towards my posting. They care not about me or what happen to me, and would rather insult me and in hopes prevent me from ever posting again. Well, I have a "News Flash" for ya. Many good, true Christian are tired of rolling over and playing dead! It is well commanded by God, as I have clearly stated in my other posting, that God commands true Christians to stake a stand and tell the wicked what they are doing wrong! I am tired of opening up a paper, magazine and reading about children killing children. I am tired of turning on the TV and watching someone go half nude at a football game! I am tired of seeing porno-music for sale at stores where teenagers have easy access to it. Plus, I am tired of these "rude" people wanting respect for themselves but not giving any to anyone else.

I will and am doing what you fear most, PUBLICALLY SPEAKING OUT!! The movement has started, not just me, but is moving nonetheless. If you do not like this country and its Christian founding, then move elsewhere. I am sure the Arabs you love so much will welcome you. Go over there and be rude to them and see how long you last. The Islam teachings tell them to kill everyone except Islam people. Just look how they treat their own kind, do you think they will treat you any better? The true teachings of Christ say nothing of going out and killing the enemy, does it? This does not mean to not defend yourself if someone breaks into your home and tries to kill your children, I will defend them to the end. It is talking about hatred. Do not hate your enemy, but love them. Pray that they repent. But it commands to not be a part of their wrongdoings. Tell them the truth and be done with it.

Where in all of my postings have I said I hated my enemy? I have spoken the truth that God will punish the wicked if they do not repent. I have prayed for everyone.

So again, give me the respect by honoring my posting. If after reading my very first posting and the very first five words and you continue to read. Then you should pay me the respect that you continued on your own and therefore you should not dishonor me by trying to insult me in hopes that I will shut up.

I rest my case at this time.

How pompous you are

I am really amazed that Christians like the previous post all think that they are perfect and that GOD is looking out for them....and that they are all so important and not insignificant enough for nobody to give a rat's ass about them.

For one, Christians are a MINORITY in the religious world. Does this make the BILLIONS of Bhuddists wrong? Does this condemn them to hell? How about all the HINDU...MUSLIM...and other religions? Why, oh why, do Christians always think their religion is the most important one?

I don't care what religion you are...if you think that some magical entity is guarding your ass, then brother, you have a rude awakening coming some day for you. NOBODY gives a crap how dedicated you are to your religion. When you're laying face-up pushing up the daisies, you'll finally figure that you are not being guarded one bit more than the drunk on skid row or the poor aids-infested kid in Gambia (what'd those poor kids do except to be born in the wrong place?). Why isn't GOD looking out for them? Why does he favor you and not them?

Here's my litmus test: Let's say you are in a plane crash. You religious idiots who survived are going to say "God protected me" or "I must be needed for a further purpose". What about those other 200 people who got all their limbs torn off in the crash? Are they any less significant than you? How pompous you are to think that you are somehow that much more special. This is the problem...religion and Christianity especailly is nothing more than a majorly organzied CULT.

When you make that last second field goal...GOD must have been on your side, eh? What about the poor slob who dropped the pass? Did God make him drop the ball? You're so self-congratulatory! You don't go crying when you lose that God made you drop that pass, do you...but you're the first to say he help you make it. Don't you think you caught it becuase you were either just in the right place at the right time, damned lucky, or that the other guy just wasn't athletic enough to stop you? Nope...you somehow have to inject GOD into the formula. I pity you for having such a small mind.

Just like Jim Jones, your kool-aid days are going to come as a religion some day.

added mindlessness

I almost forgot, but have to inject this one little piece, then I'm done.

Working with a guy recently who ended up becoming a youth minister, I really have some evidence that Christianity and specifically Catholicism is a cult. Why?

This poor guy swore to me that scientists who did radio-carbon dating were all frauds and that the data was all made up as a collusion somehow to falsely show that the world was older than it is according to the bible. In-depth conversations with him regarding this, he informed me that the world cannot possibly be over 10,000 years old because it was "created" by God no earlier than that. Any evidence, such as fossils, radio-carbon dating techniques and core-samples of ancient soils are all lies told to the masses to prove that evolution doesn't exist and to dis-prove creation.

He had the solid thought that dinosaur fossils were all made-up by scientists and weren't older than that magical 10,000 year mark. He flat-out believed that all that evidence was just lies and intentional falsehood. Even showing the guy a trilobite fossil that was MILLIONS of years old, he said that any scientific test we did to show that it was that old was flawed or otherwise falsified to favor us heathens who were anti-creation. In no way could I show that it was possible my trilobite fossil was millions of years old. It just wasn't possible to him.

I feel really sad and scared for our future generations that are under this person (or anyone like him) being taught that this scientific evidence is all mumbo-jumbo. These are the same people that, like those down in Kansas, ban scientific books and references and don't allow teaching of evolution.

To me, this is behavior of a cult. Can't be any simpler than that. Brain-washing people to believe in fantasies like this in defiance of cold, hard factual evidence proven by methods that can be reproduced, documented and tested...that is denial brought on by brain-washing. This is just plain looking at the facts and saying that it's not a fact. This is akin to looking at a green crayon and saying it's blue and truly believing it. Of course, you can go on and be all philosophical about even the existance of the crayon in the first place, but again...let's be adults here. We evolved a brain for a reason, I think.

This is why I am really opposed to pretty much most religions...how can they all be right. I think, of all of them, Bhuddists probably have it the closest if any of them are. At least you don't see Bhuddists go around self-aggrandizing and murdering people for their beliefs. If you aren't a Bhuddists...they don't care! But if you aren't a Christian, or a Muslim, or Islamist...then you must burn in hell or forcibly be converted or murdered for all they care.

This, again, is the behavior of a cult. It's just been around so long that it got really big. Think about it. 2000 years ago, somebody told a story that seemed pretty incredible. Coincidently there was a comet flying by...and that turned into a miricle of miricles...and then a good story teller was born who wanted to promote a peaceful style of living. That all got twisted by simple minds and retold over the years so it became engrained as truth, since all those who were around to witness it (nor those for centuries afterward) were not as scientifically able to dissect fact from fiction.

At one time, to those peolpe, the world was flat and the center of the universe. We all know better than that now, except for my former co-worker and his followers. Many of us finally figured out that this is a nice story, based on good intentions and the data available at the time, but is found as fiction just as much as the world was found not to be flat.

It is able to be proven that radioactive materials decay at a certain rate (half-life) and that by guaging the current state and working backword, we can fairly accurately attain the age of any given thing. That someone denies this and dismisses it as collusion and scientific lies is living in a dangerous world and in serious denial of the facts.

Did you ever notice that the more educated a person gets, the less religious they tend to be? Hmmmm....do you think it may be simply becuase they had sense enough to rationalize and figure something out and have the sense to stop believing in their fantasies as being reality?

I'm done.

response to todd

isnt it kind of erogant to think you are the only real christian out there. didnt christ teach to be humble and not brag about you being a christian or your accomplishments. as far as lawsuits every company faces that blockbuster, wal mart, microsoft. every billion dollare company faces something like that. instead of taking food eating it first take the time out to pay for it first what does it matter time wise to do either or. either way you'll eventually have to go to the counter to pay anyways. christ also teaches judge not les ye be judged. yet you're judging everyone saying oh they arent christian they are this they are that. and as far as documentaries go they can manipulate facts one way or another and statistics to say whatever they want. learned that much in statistics class last semester.why i dont believe in those kind of documenteries unless they state how they got those facts. i dont think wal mart is an evil company or anything just certain individuals with in the company. only reason people are pissed off that they are killing economy if other companies would have the good sense to combine everything the way they have then they would be more competitive.

Lori Todd and others like them

yes your GOD is in your minds, and only in your minds.
todd was not treated unfairly. he was treated like hte criminal he was.

Good for Walmart. Anyone who agrees with Todd and his sinful act are blind, and ignorant.

Dont forget this plain and obvious fact]
TODD STOLE FOOD.

Yeah ,we should commend this man for stealing food.