SUBMITTED: Wednesday, March 09, 2005
POSTED: Wednesday, March 09, 2005
I sit, still somewhat amazed after having read my email the day before yesterday.....I was hit by a friend with a link for the "Free Ipod" deal, and I checked it out, ONLY because this guy had a buddy who actually got an Ipod. Well, in and amongst filling out the original "survey" for this "Free Ipod" thing, I was taken to a collateral link by these same people that offered a "free laptop", and that only required me to participate in these offers as opposed to having friends have to do it so, too...if nothing else, that removed the "pyramid" effect from this and only required me to participate. I figured that I'd give it a go, but I made sure I did it "right".
OK, so what I did was set out to peg these people rotten liars if nothing else....the one thing that kinda kept me interested was that I read EVERYTHING associated with it and saw that there was no "fine print" that I could readily ID as a way for them to crawfish out with. Also, every offer that you were asked to participate in were blue chip things, like BlockBuster, Capitol One and many other similar ones, and I figured that companies of that ilk wouldn't fool with an ad company that outright lied, and these blue chip companies, BlockBuster, et al, were the ones who were definitely the ones who were benefitting financially. I not only thought, I KNEW that BlockBuster, et al, would finagle around with wording that would trick you, but I did not think that they would prticipate in an outright thieving scam lie. So, I trusted my ability to read and understand BS legalese, and I kept C&Ps and screen grabs of everything, and I do mean EVERYTHING associted with this.....I opened every link that went to any sort fo rules and regs, then read them well and and copied/pasted them to saved files, and I kept screen grabs of everything, too. There is no way that a person could document this better than I did...maybe as well, but you couldn't do better than two copies of everything (C&Ps of text and screen grabs of every inch of every page....many pages requiring four or more grabs)
When I got into these "offers", I noticed that some (if not all) of them would default say that you could go fro a "free trial" for an offer, then sort of imply that you were being taken to the point where you were to sign up for this free trial, when in eality you would be taken to the offer, but it would default to an expensive package. However, you simply needed to reset the offer to the free trial, maybe with a radio button, maybe a link, whatever, instead of taking the default costly order....for example, one of these offers that I participated in was from Ancestry.com. Well, the link said something to the effect that you could try this for free, yet when you picked the link it defaulted to a package that would charge your credit card for like several hundred bucks for a year! I simply picked a different link or radio button (can't recall right off hand, but I do have screen grabs of it) that went to a 2 week trial offer, and like I said I kept copies of EVERYTHING. Had I just kept clicking my way through the Ancestry.com deal, I would have given them permission to charge my card for hundreds of bucks!!
Now, it seems like maybe one of the offers, maybe BlockBuster's 2 week free trial or something like that, required a credit card number, so in an abundance of caution I used a PayPal Visa DEBIT card that drafted on my PayPal account so that they could get maybe 35 bucks max if they decided to screw me over (the debit card # was given to BlockBuster and NOT this ad company, but I was still cautious anyway!). I figured if they razooed it I would get it back if I could anyway, but I darnedd sure wasn't gonna give 'em a credit card number!!
So, what went down was I participated in these six offers, and the best thing is that I liked several of the free offers anyway. Not good enough to pay for them, mind you, but it made this just that much less a drag to do. The 2 weeks of free DVDs was fun, the month with Stamps.com and the free 5 bucks of postage that came with it, etc. As for the Video Professor offer I received, I immediately sent it back, with delivery confirmation, of course, which was labled and paid for by the 5 bucks I got from Stamps.com, so that cost me nothing! All in all, I invested about 2 hours in this, but not one red cent. I mean that...not one cent di this cost me! I got two weeks of free DVDs, I sent the Video Prof junk back on Stamps.com's nickel, with delivery confirmation, and I also used the Stamps.com stuff for eBay for a month.
The MOST IMPORTANT thing is that you just have to make sure that you cancel before the trial period is up, and EVERY offer I participated in only required that you do a free trial, no purchase required. I also participated in NO credit card offers. In hindsight, I would now, and simply cancel them afterward, but I was real leery then and as I said I made SURE that I limited what I could even possibly lose to what was in my PayPal account, less than forty bucks.
Now, what happens is that you do two offers from "Level one", two from "Level Two" and two from "Level Three"....in doing so, you commit to two before you go to the next two, then you commit to those two before you go to the final two, so if any of you do this, trust me, save the real easy ones (like simply getting a credit card) for last...that way you don't get stuck having committed to four easy ones and then not have two decent picks left at the end.
Now, before I got into all this, I did some reading on this Laptop, cuz I could envision a big plastic calculator "Laptop" as your prize! The thing read that it would be one of three, a Toshiba Satellite, and two other nice machines that I can't recall exactly, with decent equipment. They said that the laptop retailed for 900 bucks, and the only caveat was that they could possibly be refurbished. I also suspected that I would get hit for some big "handling or shipping" charge, but it was to be fully postpaid, with all charges paid by the ad budgets of these big companies that were the offers you participated in.
Long story short, I did the offer...then, when I went to the URL to see what I needed to do to get the laptop, I entered my email (username) and had a message that I had to print out a redemption ticket and send it in, which I did...I sent that certified, return receipt requested. That was about a month or so, ago or maybe a tad more (I participated in the original offer on Christmas Eve night '04). Within a couple weeks of sending it in, I kept going back to that URL, which I had bookmarked, because I kept getting the message that I "had qualified but that I had not sent the voucher in". Well, I went through the multiple emails with no answer, and I searched Yahoo to see what I could find on this (I never found this site from Yahoo, although I wish that I could have....I only found out abour "RipOff.com" through Google, tonight, which really irks me cuz I SURE would have loved to have found this site earlier!! I looked through Google tonight to see about this "Plasma TV offer when I came upon this site) Anyway, as I was there, checking nightly to see if they had gotten the voucher, knowing damned well that they did cuz I got my return receipt back, when I thought to go backward from the bookmarked page to the original URL that would give me "My Status", and I had to re-enter my email address. Now, it took me to my status on their URL, and it said that I "had qualified" and that they had received my redemption voucher, and that this voucher had been sent to their "Fufillment Center" in Boca Raton, who would be shipping this out to me in a few weeks. I see now that I never had gotten the update in my status cuz I had bookmarked the page, and in doing so it didn't let it update, I guess....maybe my browser kept retrieving the last page, and I bet all I would have had to do was hit "refresh". Regardless, what you want to do is to go to the "check your status" link each time and re-enter your email....do NOT bookmark the page that you go to after you enter your email!!! Now, this went on for several weeks, and I was starting to think that I had been razooed...of course, I thought, well, they FOOLED me, but that's all. They didn't get to rip me off! I didn't know that I had been tricked, but I was kinda thinking that way. However, the status note said that it would take the "Fulfillment Center" a few weeks to get the order out, but that it WAS coming. Doubting but not yet sure, I just decided to wait another month to know for sure I was screwed, and then I was gonna go the FTC, AG route.
When I checked my email the night before last, I was absolutely shocked to see that I had a tracking number confirmation email from UPS saying that I had a package that was to ship out on March 7 from this "Fullfillment Center" in DelRey Beach, so whatever it is it is headed my way. The package is 12lbs, so that sounds about right. It is due here tomorrow, and the tracking has it in New Orelans...I live in Kentwood, lA, so it'll be here tomorrow, I am sure.
I am VERY skeptical of stuff, and I never, ever do this sorta thing. The only reason that I did it this time was because of the other old boy I know who did it and actually got an Ipod. If it hadn't been for that I would have NEVER in a million years wasted the time it took to do it....that is all I have committed anyway, is time, cuz as I said it cost me ZIP, NADA, NOTHING to do.
Now, obviosuly you wouldn't use your real email address due to a ton of SPAM, so what I originally was gonna do was use a gmail account and chunk it after. I realized that I would need to be able to get mail from them and didn;t want to have to log in and out of another email address just for that, so what I did was use a disposable SPAMex email address...after I get whatever it is that they are sending me tomorrow, I will just kill that email account.
I am wondering if the problem people had with "deleted accounts" was because they were using bookmarked URLs. I will rebut again when this package comes in, but after reading this site and seeing that others have gotten laptops, plus knowing from UPS's email to me that I have a 12 lb. package coming from these people in DelRey Beach, well, it seems a forefone conclusion that I have a laptop headed this way. I'll post again when the package arrives...it's due on the 10th, tomorrow.