#1 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Sidney Bristow - Fort Worth (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, January 26, 2009
POSTED: Monday, January 26, 2009
In the US you are presumed innocent until PROVEN guilty. I think that if any one with a level head thought about this for just a moment may have some questions. How could this child, with it's family contact, living with the maternal grandfather and regular doctor visits be beaten so viciously no one noticed? The child had been for a well baby visit 15 days before being admitted to the hospital and all was well. If these parents did abuse this child and for there to be 42 fractures in various stages of healing, then he would have had to have sustained daily abuse from the time he was born. And no one, not even the doctors noticed?
If they did do this, then heaven help them. Nothing short of the death penalty is just. But after doing some research and additional reading I think they're case needs to be looked at a little more closely. The child was just over 4 lbs at full term, had respiratory problems, turned in feet and other little indications that point to Osteogenesis Imperfecta. Can you imagine loving your child, doing everything right and then one day being arrested for child abuse that you did not commit. It happened to this family, (((Redacted))), and I fear that it may be happing to this one as well.
I know that the doctors and nurses are only doing their jobs but our CPS system runs amuck with false accusations and then for the children that are in real jeopardy they turn the other way. I really don't know what's going on there but if there is any one system in the state of Texas that needs some reform it is Child Protective Services. They have no accountability.
Until these parents are tried and convicted they are still the parents of this baby. If they do not give consent to take the child off life support then that is their decision. I don't know where this lynch mob mentality has come from and why the media is now the holy grail of truth.
If you read all of the different reports from various media outlets they're terribly inconsistent. One story says the abuse the happened over the course of a month while another reports that CPS states that was long term abuse. One story reports that the child decidedly had human bite marks while another reports bruising and marks on the skin.
Now, let me be clear. If these people did in fact do this crime, then the punishment should be swift and severe. I'm definitely on the conservative side of the law and believe in the death penalty but I also did not believe there weapons of mass destruction just because someone said there was. Show me the evidence first.
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#4 Update By Author
AUTHOR: Joe - Austin (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, January 31, 2009
POSTED: Saturday, January 31, 2009
There apparently has been a pre-AUTOPSY done by a MEDICAL DOCTOR, and if a disease that resembled parental abuse had been present in the child, the doctor would have so noted in the medical report.
When the postmortum AUTOPSY is done I think the FULL Story will be known but it is the BITE MARKS I am having the most trouble with. ( Other than the fact it is a very small child whose life is on the line and may be dead already. I am going to check it out.
Both attorneys would have received a copy.
If there had been a disease present at birth that disfigured the little child, these findings would have been present and included in the medical report. Medical Doctors are acutely aware of any and all diseases that could mimic signs of physical abuse. Not only that,these might have been a history of that disease in either one or both families and the defense lawyer would have asked the parents about it. One way or the other, if the little boy had an such malformation, it would have come out at the Grand Jury meeting --which I am sure the Grand Jury members had the results and they could have ( and probably did ) ask questions of the doctor who examined the child initially if the report wasn't perfectly clear.
Capital Murder is a serious charge. Life in prison without parole, death penalty are usually reserved for the worse of the worst and killing a small child is rather serious. Injury to a Child is bad enough but CAPITAL MURDER as a result of injury to a child will definitely upset ordinary people who don't like to see little children hurt and killed.
EVERY CHILD'S LIFE IS IMPORTANT!
This case might have been accidental. Babies are rather delicate and maybe they thought they were going to toughen up their kid for the real world. Or maybe they did it without thinking at all. Something was done, to take it to the lowest most simple terminology and the District Attorney studied the medical results and found reasonable suspicion and ample probable cause to refer the case to the grand jury.
An emergemncy room medical doctor who is a specialist in trauma care sees abuse cases quite frequently so I believe he would know the difference between an abnormal skeletal and muscle formation present at birth and physical abuse -- kind of hard to explain the bite marks --maybe a huge rat or a pit bull? Even so, that would STILL have been charged out as Child Endangerment...
The charge was INJURY TO CHILD which will probably be enhanced to CAPITAL MURDER if the child is taken off life support and DIES -- and this is not something that people do not consider without a thorough knowledge of all the facts available to them at the time. They would have considered pediatric records, birth records,the autopsy, prior arrests and criminal charges against the parents and so forth...
I saw the videos on TV made of their child and he looked like any other normal baby, laughing,crawling,smiling...I couldn't understand why they would want to hurt him --but there ARE young parents who get tired of not being able to go out and party and they blame the kid for not having enough money or they are married too young and do not know and are not ready for the responsibility of parenthood in any respect... or there is physical abuse in the marriage and some of it spills out onto the children...or the young parents do not know how fragile a child is at a young age.
The Probation and Parole people should also have done a pre-trial investigation of these parents, including any predisposition for this abuse and if there was perhaps abuse in their own backgrounds,etc....AN INDICTMENT FOR CAPITAL MURDER upgrade from INJURY TO A CHILD WILL NOT JUST HAPPEN FROM NOTHING... Maybe the parents were drunk on alcohol or high on drugs when the abuse happened? A LOT of younger people don't know and did not see and learn from the rampant drug abuse in the 1960-1970s! And these kids nowadays see nothing wrong with using drugs...or drinking alcohol to excess.
I would like to see a miraculous recovery for this little child who did nothing wrong.
#5 Update By Author
AUTHOR: Joe - Austin (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, January 31, 2009
POSTED: Saturday, January 31, 2009
As of 21 January, 2008, the Dallas Morning News blog which has been covering this story states that there was an improvement in the child's condition that warranted them keeping him on the life support longer. There were no further details except the child is still on life support and supposedly in "A vegetative like state."
Here are some more details from a Dallas Morning News story concerning the parents. They could not even afford their own place and had to live with the mother's father! Maybe they should have waited to have children when they could afford the responsibility better?
I am quoting from this story under the Fair Use Exemption to provide education for other young parents so they do not do this stuff to their children! I am not claiming authorship.
HERE IS THE MOST RECENT UPDATE FROM THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS REPORTER WHO HAS BEEN COVERING THIS CASE:
3:19 PM Wed, Jan 21, 2009 |
Steve Thompson
In my story today about a brain-damaged and allegedly abused baby, David Coronado Jr., I noted a change in his condition had prompted his court-appointed attorney to withdraw a motion on taking the infant off life support.
But I had no good information about what sort of change it was.
This afternoon I spoke with Lt. Ches Williams, commander of the Dallas police Crimes Against Children unit.
He told me the change over the weekend was an improvement.
"It was significant enough that it warranted holding off," he said.
But he said that, according to doctors at Children's Medical Center, the infant remains in some sort of vegetative state.
HERE IS THE STORY:
Court to decide whether to end life support for abused West Dallas baby
12:00 AM CST on Saturday, January 17, 2009
By STEVE THOMPSON / The Dallas Morning News
Tanya Eiserer contributed to this report.
The parents of a 6-month-old Dallas boy are accused of abusing him so cruelly that he has severe brain damage, dozens of bone fractures and scars too numerous to count.
Now a court must decide whether he should be taken off life support.
David Cesar Coronado Sr., 23, and Ruthy Marie Chabolla, 22, took their only child to Methodist Dallas Medical Center one evening last month. He wasn't breathing.
Hospital staffers revived the infant with CPR and rushed him to Children's Medical Center Dallas, where doctors quickly discovered appalling injuries.
The baby, identified in criminal district court records as David Coronado Jr., was barely alive.
In addition to severe brain and spinal cord injuries, a doctor noted that David had 42 skeletal injuries. His hands and feet appeared to have been pulled, twisted and crushed. His skin injuries included bruises and human bite marks.
One of his fingers appeared to have been bitten to the bone, records say. Another had lost a nail to some past trauma.
Many of the fractures had healed some, indicating they were several weeks old. It appeared the abuse had lasted at least a month.
"Overall, David has a pattern of injuries indicative of repeated severe and violent traumatic events," the doctor reported.
"Neurologically, David is exhibiting minimal movement," the doctor wrote. "If he survives his injuries he will have severe and permanent disability as a result of these injuries."
On Dec. 23,2008 Dallas police arrested Coronado and Chabolla on charges of injury to a child. Each is being held in the Dallas County Jail in lieu of $500,000 bail.
Interview requests sent to the jail were not immediately responded to Friday.
Born in July
David Coronado Sr. and the infant's mother live with her father in a small white house on a quiet street in West Dallas.
Chabolla's father, who pulled into the driveway late Friday in an old Chevy pickup, declined to comment.
David Jr. was born full term on July 19,2008. He weighed 4 pounds, 5 ounces. When evaluated by a family doctor on Dec. 1,2008 he weighed more than 7 pounds, and the doctor noted nothing amiss.
But by the time he stopped breathing at Methodist, he was down to 6 pounds, 10 ounces.
"His appearance resembles a premature infant," a report by Child Protective Services noted.
Chabolla told police she fed her child from a bottle several times a day, though sometimes she would skip a feeding if he was asleep, the report said.
Parents' accounts
Coronado told police that about 3:30 p.m. on Dec. 17,2008 he noticed his son in the baby swing acting fussy, with an unusual cry. He said he picked the infant up and patted him, then put him in his crib, where he fell asleep.
Several hours later, Coronado said, the infant woke up crying. So he changed his son's diaper and began giving him a bottle.
Coronado said his son threw up, began to gurgle and stopped breathing. Chabolla started CPR, and they left for the hospital.
Both parents told detectives that their son sometimes had trouble breathing and was given to blank stares. They denied deliberately causing any of his injuries.
"I would never hurt my child," Chabolla told police, according to a CPS report.
She said the marks on David's feet, described as bite marks by his doctors, were from where he had rubbed them together. The bruises up and down his body may have been from the buttons on his onesies, she said.
MAY HAVE BEEN FROM THE BUTTONS --- YEAH,SURE!
Further into the interview, however, Chabolla said she would sometimes bite her son in a playful manner.
BITES ARE NOT PLAY! THEY HURT!
She told detectives that her husband sometimes dreamt he was fighting and may have hit his son while they slept in the same bed.
EVERYONE KNOWS THAT YOU DON'T SLEEP IN THE SAME BED WITH YOUR CHILDREN WHO ARE INFANTS BECAUSE IT IS TOO EASY TO ROLL OVER ON THEM AND CRUSH THEM OR THEY COULD SUFFOCATE IN THE COVERS OR GET KNOCKED OFF ONTO THE FLOOR!
Coronado, who is 6-foot-3 and 260 pounds, said maybe he picked his son up "too hard" in the middle of the night, but that he never hurt David intentionally.
CPS report
"Both parents are responsible for long-term, extensive physical abuse to their only infant son," a CPS report says. "Neither parent is able to provide a safe, nurturing environment for this or any other child, given the magnitude of the physical abuse and life-threatening physical neglect this infant has sustained while in their care."
On Monday, the infant's court-appointed guardian filed a motion in Dallas County juvenile court asking that doctors at Children's be permitted to remove David Jr. from life support.
The motion, noting that the parents "have not consented to withdrawal of support," argues it is in his best interest. Court records describe him as "neurologically devastated."
The motion could be decided next week.
#6 Employee
AUTHOR: Ravenslvr - Grand Prairie (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, June 05, 2009
POSTED: Friday, June 05, 2009
as someone that works in the very jail they are housed in, i can tell you that they are both not the least bit upset by what is going on. and my brother works at cooks childrens. he helped work on that baby when brought in. so come on. screw the justice system. you don't need a jury to form an opinion. those defending them, to me, are just as guilty. you are low life, despicable pieces of crap that deserve to suffer the worse fate possible