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Complaint Review: IronClad Media - Gary Niederhelman - gaytats.com

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  • Submitted: Monday, September 12, 2005
  • Last Posting: Wednesday, July 29, 2009
  • Reported By:Foster City California
IronClad Media - Gary Niederhelman - gaytats.com
419 Helen Terrace Neptune New Jersey 07753 U.S.A.

IronClad Media - Gary Niederhelman - gaytats.com rudeness, insulting, refuses to unsubscribe you from the site resulting in spam, ripoff Neptune New Jersey


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I am constantly getting mail from gaytats.com informing me that I have mail waiting on their site. When I go to the site, I am first asked to subscribe to the site. I have no desire to subscribe to this site. I sent an email to the help/feedback link and received nothing but rude and insulting messages such as:

"And you wouldn't be requesting to stop receiving email if you weren't a freeloading douche looking for free porn.

Gary Niederhelman
IronClad Media"

and:

"Then you have no business using the internet for adult content. Adult content should not be free, and only a scumbag would feel otherwise.

Gary Niederhelman
IronClad Media"

All I want is for this site to stop sending me e-mails that i know consider SPAM.

Ed
Foster City, California
U.S.A.

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One sided story....

AUTHOR: Gary - Belmar (U.S.A.)

Nice that this complainant took a partial sentence of our response and twisted it to fit his needs. Fact is, we cannot delete profiles because of people like him. When he returns to one of our many sites, and they almost invariably do, we need to be able to match the troublemaker with their past records across all of our sites/databases. Because of scumbags like this one who think that a company's services should be provided to them for free, we have to keep every record, and every email address and every IP and login time for every user. That way when they cry to sites like this or other agencies we can cover our asses. And it's not like we're trying to rip anyone off. Our subscription prices are consistently lower than any other gay adult site. Typically a year runs $36 to $48 but we regularly have sales selling a year for $24. Now, if you're in the boat with this complainant, take heed: be a responsible internet user, read a sites terms of service BEFORE you create an account, and if you're looking for a free ride, turn off your computer.
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#2 Consumer Suggestion

How to stop the spam!

AUTHOR: Pete - Newark (U.S.A.)

This worked for me: go to the website of the company that hosts his web- and email-servers, fullcontrol.net (you can verify this by using a whois site and then looking up the owner of the name-servers). Click under Hosting Solutions, then click on terms of service, then download their Acceptable Use Policy PDF. Call the number on their site, make your complaint, and back it up by reading the spam section of their own Acceptable Use Policy to them (keep talking slowly and clearly when they try to cut you off). Be prepared for the same verbal abuse that Gary so lovingly dishes out... but if you're persistent and call each and every time Gary spams you (call back if they hang up on you!), they'll rapidly tire of it and they will ask for your email address and tell Gary to stop spamming you (he'll respond with the usual vicious lies, but he will, for a time at least, desist). Unlike his "unsubscribe" links, this actually works! If enough people do this, maybe his hosting company will finally dump him, or maybe he'll be forced to treat people better... well, I'm not holding my breath for that last one.
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