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Complaint Review: Ironclad Media - Gary Niederhelman

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  • Submitted: Sunday, April 27, 2008
  • Last Posting: Sunday, April 24, 2011
  • Reported By:Lancaster Massachusetts
Ironclad Media - Gary Niederhelman
419 Helen Terrace Neptune New Jersey 07753 U.S.A.

Ironclad Media - Gary Niederhelman Refused to unsubscribe me; responded with abusive e-mail Neptune New Jersey

*Consumer Comment: "Chris"/Gary, refunds etc


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Well, I fell for it. I registered for free on the roughriderranch.com web site, and subsequently, over a period of months, received several notices that I had e-mail. When I tried to open the e-mail, I was told I needed to pay for a subscription. So curiosity finally got the better of me and I paid, and then checked my e-mail box on roughriderranch. The e-mails turned out to be fabrications -- they were not real emails from real people. In other words, a scam. When I e-mailed roughriderranch and told them to refund my money and unsubscribe me, I got the standard abusive message that others have reported here. As you will see, they refused to unsubscribe me -- there IN no such "URL located at the bottom of the email" that allows you to unsubscribe.

Here's the reply from roughriderranch.com, in full:

ranchmaster@roughriderranch.com wrote:

I don't work for you, or any other freeloading scumbag.

Get off the internet.

The world needs another freetard loser using it for free gay porn, and endangering children in the process, like it needs another George Bush.

Free porn sites endanger children. For proof Google the recent story in which Manhunt.net was directly responsible for a 15 child being sexually abused by another Manhunt user, who was an adult. That happened because sites like Manhunt, BigMuscle and Recon are socially irresponsible and refuse to adhere to Federal Law and age verify their members. Personally, we hope YOU use those sites so that the Justice Department can keep tabs on you. The lametards at ManHunt donated $10,000 in hard currency in an attempt to get out of their responsibility to protecting kids online, and now they, and the other freetard sites are being monitored (and that means all the freeloading losers who frequent and support them are being scoped out too).

And don't even get us started on the fact that Manhunt, and Recon, charge a whopping $100 a year for their lackluster, lame assed, profile sites when you do subscribe. If you weren't such a lecherous dog, you'd see that our site comes out to around $3 a month, and there's tons more to do than view stale profiles of other freetard losers like yourself.

Your email has been forwarded to the United States Department of Justice for further investigation in their ongoing efforts to enforce section 2257 of the United States Code and the Adam Walsh Child Protection Act.

Now, be a good boy, and use the URL located at the bottom of the email you're whining about to inactivate your account, then stay off my sites.....ALL OF THEM.

Russell
Lancaster, Massachusetts
U.S.A.

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#1 Employee

Not true

AUTHOR: Ctroy - Buffalo (U.S.A.)

First off, Gary Niederhelman hasn't owned this company, or this site for years.

Secondly, we don't refuse to inactivate anyone's email address, but we do make THEM do it through a url provided in each email that goes out. That way we can track them and protect ourselves from fraudulent complaints like this one.

Third, every time some loser like this fool comes back to one of our sites, ALMOST ALWAYS looking for free porn (and endangering children in the process), they reactivate their email address, soliciting emails from us. Therefore, it's not spam.

Of course if low lifes like this guy weren't screwing around on the internet looking for free gay porn, they wouldn't have to file false complaints like this one.

Chris Troy.
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#2 Consumer Comment

"Chris"/Gary, refunds etc

AUTHOR: J - (Canada)

"Chris Troy" claims Gary Niederhelman no longer owns the company, and yet "Chris" uses the same insults against paid customers that Gary did and "Chris Troy"'s reply to this Ripoff Report seems as generic as Gary's replies were.

"Chris"'s reply seems generic to me because my reading of "Chris"'s reply makes it sound like he didn't read Russell's report. Russell talks about getting a PAID subscription, then requesting a refund, but "Chris"'s reply says Rusell is a fool looking for free porn ... but Russell PAID ... therefore the "porn" is NOT free (unless Russell was asking for all his money back, but usually when a person asks for a refund from a business they just get a refund for the unused portion/days of their subscription.)

"Chris"'s reply seems unclear as to why IronClad should have-kept/be-keeping all of Russell's money.

Lastly, I'm not sure why "Chris" is repeatedly criticizing free porn (and people seeking it) when the mainpage of roughriderranch.com (the site that Russell is complaining about) has two pieces of free porn plus banner links to GayDemon and gaypornengine (both have free porn).  I think "Chris" is getting porn confused with online dating websites.
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