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  • Submitted: Sunday, September 12, 2010
  • Last Posting: Friday, October 15, 2010
  • Reported By: azcust — tolleson Arizona United States of America
Larry Miller Toyota
8425 W Bell Rd Peoria Arizona 85382 United States of America

Larry Miller Toyota Repair/Service Rip off Peoria, Arizona

*Consumer Comment: "WALL STREET SONG 2" is now available at the BANK OF AMERICA page of Ripoff Report....


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72.00 to clean her A/C system though we had a coupon for 49.00.
27.00 labor to replace an air cabin filter (Open glove compartment and slideout and in.)
16.32 customer pay for shop hazzard fee.
Every job has it's inherent hazards, but to charge the customer for it is wrong.
My wife has taken her car there religiously for service and repair.
She has her warranty with them but they have taken advantage and gouged her for the last time. We are going to trade in her car and buy another toyota from another
dealership.

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#1 Consumer Comment

Azcust, Before you buy another Toyota make sure to 'Google' this- ENGINE SLUDGE, and go to the consumeraffairs website....

AUTHOR: Karl - Highlands Ranch (USA)

SUBMITTED: Monday, September 13, 2010

about 'Toyota Engine Problems' and read all of the engine complaints. Then click on 'Airbags' and read all of those complaints too.

*You can also 'Google' this- MY LEXUS IS DEFECTIVE, and watch the 9 minute 34 second video on the web where a man's wife died when his 2005 Toyota Camry crashed into the ocean. There's also a woman whose Toyota Prius ended up crashing into a Colorado river. I believe there's a couple who stated that their Toyota Highlander suddenly accelerated on a highway when they were on vacation.

*It's always best to do ALL of your research before buying any car, wouldn't you agree?

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#2 Employee

Shop Hazard Charges

AUTHOR: Michelle - Peoria (United States of America)

SUBMITTED: Wednesday, September 15, 2010

As a dealership we are charged a fee from a disposal facility to remove hazard waste materials from our facility per our US Regulations and environmental safety.  In regards to the charge for the AC and labor for the air cabin filter, please understand that we strive to treat every customer with the utmost respect and we are truly concerned about earning your business now and in the future!  If you have any additional concerns, please don't hesitate to contact me directly at 623-876-3486 so that I can further assist you!

Sincerely,

Michelle Hadley
Customer Service Director
623-876-3486 direct
mhadley@lhm.com

 


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#3 Consumer Comment

FORGERY WAS REPORTED AT LARRY MILLER TOYOTA IN PEORIA ARIZONA....

AUTHOR: Karl - Highlands Ranch (USA)

SUBMITTED: Friday, September 17, 2010

by Carol, of Glendale Arizona.

Simply go to the LARRY MILLER TOYOTA page of this site and read Ripoff Report #331575 entitled- "Larry Miller Toyota Larry Miller Shows No Sign of Respect"...., and you can read where Carol said that her signature was 'FORGED'.



********************************   ALERT   *********************************

*Make sure to 'Google' this- CAR SALES: TRICKS OF THE TRADE- CONSUMER ALERT, and watch how Tori was scammed at a car dealership and how her monthly income was 'altered' by the finance manager at a 'Sonic Automotive' owned dealership.

Sonic Automotive is the 3rd largest Dealer Group in the USA, operating about 150 Car Dealerships. (They own several TOYOTA DEALERSHIPS throughout the USA.)

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#4 Consumer Comment

There goes the old engine sludge poetry googles...

AUTHOR: Ronny g - North hollywood (USA)

SUBMITTED: Friday, September 17, 2010

Karl is a nut case. This report is regarding a dealership rip off overcharging for maintenance..No surprise, nothing new..and no matter which Toyota dealer this person buys their next Toyota from..will most likely be ripped off just the same if they bring it to the dealer for repair of routine maintenance.

And many dealers forge signatures, change the numbers around fraudulantly for a loan qualification etc...and they almost all charge the ludicrious fee of 16+ dollars per customer for taking out the garbage.

Best bet is find an honest local mechanic...not a muffler shop..not a oil change place..but a real mechanic.

As far as sludge...any engine could be damaged by it. Use good oil and change it frequently.

As far as sudden acceleration..guess it may be an issue..I don't know..I see more Toyotas on the road then any other make...I know dozens of people who own them..including my parents..and not one report of sudden acceleration. I suggest anyone with this problem learn how to put it in neutral and step on the brake..you will be amazed that the car will stop before crashing into the ocean.

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#5 Employee

Please understand....

AUTHOR: Michelle - Peoria (United States of America)

SUBMITTED: Saturday, September 18, 2010

In regards to the forgery, the person that ran the Larry Miller Toyota store is no longer employed here and having worked for our current General Manager, Mark Mauer, I promise you that these type of practices are not encouraged nor allowed.  Larry Miller runs dealerships where are first job responisibilty is to protect the legal, financial and moral well being of our dealerships and our customers.  If you still have an issue with your warranty, please contact me directly at 623-876-3486 and we will resolve the issue.  I understand that you have had a bad experience here, but I can promise you that I will change your perception or anyones perception for that matter.  I am a mother of three and I work here and we strive every day to ensure 100% customer satisfaction.  If you have an issue, contact me and allow me the opportunity to make it right!

Sincerely,

Michelle Hadley
Customer Service Director
Larry Miller Toyota
623-876-3486
mhadley@lhm.com

 


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#6 Consumer Comment

Dear Michelle, Does the GM at Larry Miller Toyota inform the employees to have the potential customers read all of the complaints at the consumeraffairs site regarding 'Toyota Engine Problems'....

AUTHOR: Karl - Highlands Ranch (USA)

SUBMITTED: Sunday, September 19, 2010

before they purchase or lease a Toyota at your dealership?

Anyone can 'Google' this- ENGINE SLUDGE, and go to the consumeraffairs website and read all of the engine complaints from Toyota owners, right?

And anyone can click on- 'Airbags', and read all of those complaints too, correct?

Please let all of us know if Larry Miller Toyota informs its potential customers to do ALL of their research BEFORE buying or leasing a Toyota vehicle, okay?

Thank You

Sincerely,

Karl

P.S. You might want to go to the FUEL FREEDOM INTERNATIONAL page of this site and read what was stated in 'Consumer Comment 2' at Ripoff Report #269041, which was posted on August 21st, 2007. Here's part of what was stated-

Quote: "The 'hook' has been securely set against Toyota. As consumers, we must keep reeling in this BIG FISH and bring it aboard." - 8-21-2007



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#7 Consumer Comment

yes...click on airbags...

AUTHOR: Ronny g - North hollywood (USA)

SUBMITTED: Sunday, September 19, 2010

go ahead..click on Toyota air bags..then Nissan air bags...try Ford air bags?...how about GM air bags?..or perhaps Chrysler air bags??? "

Chrysler recalls 312,000 2005-2006 minivans over airbag issue

Yes..there seems to be complaints about air bags from every make..

Mercedes Benz??

"Mercedes benz Air bag Recalls"



C class

Air bags
Description: Certain passenger vehicles equipped with sport model steering wheels fail to comply with the requirements of federal motor vehicle safety standard no. 208, “occupant crash protection.” in certain low risk air bag deployment tests conducted by nhtsa, using an out-of-position unbelted 5th percentile female crash test dummy, irregularities were demonstrated indicating that occupants may not be properly protected in


a crash.
Damage: In the event of a crash, an occupant may not be properly restrained which could result in injuries.
Year: 2006, 2005

Volvo even?? The safety car??

2006 Volvo S40 Airbag Complaints
Complaint Number: 10351829    Incident Date: August 24, 2010    Date Added to File: August 25, 2010
Description of the Complaint:
2006 Volvo s40 passenger side air bag sensor is malfunctioning. When a passenger is sitting in the passenger seat, the airbag light saying that the airbag is off is often illuminated, but not always. The dealer has told me that they have encountered this problem on several 2006, 2007, and 2008 models. They initially told me that this was normal behavior. They are now investigating since I have raised the safety concern of being in the passenger seat and not having the airbag deploy. This is the third time we have had our car in for this problem. The dealer is working with Volvo to fix this problem, but it seems like there may be a number of defective sensors out there.

There seems to  be a lot of "hot air" in this room..would you not agree KARL? Just 'GOOGLE' it..anyone can.

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#8 Consumer Comment

Azcust, Don't forget to 'Google' this- TOYOTA TWITTER SLUDGE, and go to that site....

AUTHOR: Karl - Highlands Ranch (USA)

SUBMITTED: Monday, September 20, 2010

to stay updated about what's going on in regards to Toyota and Toyota/Lexus vehicles every day, okay?

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#9 Consumer Comment

They charged you .2Hr

AUTHOR: Tech1 - Laurel (U.S.A.)

SUBMITTED: Tuesday, September 21, 2010

that is right it is .2 hr -.3 Noe the hazard fee is the disposal fee and yes all shops have it set up where they make money off of this fee. you were not riped off you were told the charge and the did it. if it was Jiffy butchers they would replace it every 5K and say if you don't it is very dangerous.
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#10 Consumer Comment

Tech1, Isn't it true that too much heat and too much stress could cause ENGINE SLUDGE to develop in an engine? If you go to....

AUTHOR: Karl - Highlands Ranch (USA)

SUBMITTED: Wednesday, September 29, 2010

Charlene's Ripoff Report you can read what is stated in 'Consumer Comment #4', which is entitled- "A MECHANICS OPINION".

*Simply 'Google' this- RIP OFF REPORT #261157, and that should take you to Charlene's Ripoff Report and where 'Consumer Comment #4' appears, okay?

Thank You


********************************   ALERT   *********************************

Don't forget to 'Google' this- TOYOTA TWITTER SLUDGE, and go to that site every day to stay updated about Toyota.

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#11 Employee

Hazard Fee Mandated

AUTHOR: Michelle - Peoria (United States of America)

SUBMITTED: Wednesday, September 29, 2010

The Harzard fee that you were charged is because we have to dispose of all fluids and parts removed.  Hazard fees are 8.1% of labor up to $27.50 and it covers the cost of disposing of hazard waste materials.  Every dealership in town will charge you these fees since we are mandated to do that.

Sincerely,

Michelle Hadley
mhadley@lhm.com
623-876-3486

 


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#12 Consumer Comment

"Mandated" by whom???

AUTHOR: Ronny g - North hollywood (USA)

SUBMITTED: Wednesday, September 29, 2010

Yes...all business have to take out the garbage (dispose of waste). Where is any "mandate" that says any shop "must" charge or are required to charge their customers 8.1% of labor for this fee?

And..if this is the case...why is every customer charged the same hazard fee? Why not charge 8.1% of the labor charge? Maybe my math is off..but according to this report, the customer was charged $16.32. Is this the "up to" amount it should cost for this customers labor charge? $72.00 to clean the AC system (cough, cough gag), $27.00 to open the glove box and replace the cabin air filter (cough, cough gag). Lets do the math...

72 + 16.32 (lets round off to 17) = $89.00. 8.1% of 89= $7.02. So this customer was ripped off according to your last reply.

One shop I work with charges a flat fee of $5.00 for this. And bear in mind..this is California.. land of gestapo nazi regulations for everything..heck I would not be surprised if they taxed the formation of toe jam by weight and volume.


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#13 Consumer Comment

CAR DEALERSHIPS HAVE BECOME JUST LIKE MOST OF THE BANKS IN AMERICA. THEY HAVE TO COME UP WITH ALL KINDS OF "FEES" IN ORDER TO GENERATE PROFITS BECAUSE....

AUTHOR: Karl - Highlands Ranch (USA)

SUBMITTED: Thursday, September 30, 2010

their sales have fallen dramatically in the past few years.

In 2003, 2004, 2005, & 2006, there were around 16 to 17 Million new cars sold each year in the USA. That figure has fallen to around 11 Million. That's a considerable drop in new cars sales.

And consider this: sales of larger vehicles, like SUV's, mini-vans, & trucks, has dropped considerably. Car dealerships are selling more of the smaller, fuel-efficient cars. Those cars are less expensive and have less PROFIT for the dealership.

Car dealerships will try and make up the lost profits by charging as many fees as possible. They'll also try to manipulate customers into having service done on their cars that are not necessary in order to make profits, in my opinion.

Banks are no longer making the money they used to by loaning money to customers. That's why they've adopted a new 'business model' and they are charging FEES unlike ever before.

The auto industry and the banking industry are a reflection of how business in America has changed for the worse. 


************************* Business in America Alert ************************

*Anyone can 'Google' the following and watch the videos to see how business in America has been conducted over the years-

CAR SALES: TRICKS OF THE TRADE- CONSUMER ALERT

COUNTRYWIDE WHISTLEBLOWER REPORTS LIAR LOANS

ELIZABETH WARREN ON THE ECONOMY NOW ON PBS


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#14 Consumer Comment

WoW Karl

AUTHOR: Tech1 - Laurel (U.S.A.)

SUBMITTED: Friday, October 01, 2010

Karl,

You really are a loose nut behind a wheel. The Drop in New car sales have not hurt dealers that much because the now make very little off of them(for about ten years now) They make about 60-70% of their profit from the repair work. and a another 10-20% off of used car sales.

The Fee is to cover the cost of contaminated oil disposal coolant disposal tire disposal also to cover the Brake clean, solvents tank fluid, rust penaterant, spray adhesive, and adhesive remover, viruses oil sprays, Zip ties, rubber gloves, and other expenses. Is this fee high yes it is, but the customer failed to see that it is a charge. He agreed on it.

This fee is a charge that most shops have in fact very few do not have them.


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#15 Consumer Comment

In agreement with tech1

AUTHOR: Ronny g - North hollywood (USA)

SUBMITTED: Friday, October 01, 2010

As usual, Karl is blowing this way way way way way out of proportion.

The customers only needed to request a written estimate before work was done and agree to it before signing to authorize. There are no shortages of places to have a filter changed or "AC cleaning" and to price shop if that is such a concern.

Granted..this customer states a coupon was not honored...we do not know the reason why. We also know the customer states they were charged 27.00 to open glove box and slide filter in/out...(so why didn't the customer do this themselves if it's that easy?). Would have saved some money for sure.

As far as the hazard fees...I disagree with the dealer to state it is mandated..well yes they have to pay for disposal of hazardous materials, and for wire ties and gloves..but I do not find any law that says this must be charged to the customer..and what percentage. I guess it is better they have a flat rate then to have to break down and charge for every little piece of tape and zip tie and paper towel etc...or to weight the waste after every job, divided into hazardous and non hazardous etc. But $16.32 regardless is high disposal/materials fee for cleaning the AC system (whatever that even is or if it was even done), and replacing a cabin filter. Bottom line is this charge is something they most likely profit from, "mandated" or not.

I think this poster does have a partially reasonable complaint, but is not being 100% forthright with all the info. Karl is off in the land of tin hats, Government conspiracy and economic crash predictions to offer any real useful info regarding this report.

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#16 Consumer Comment

Ronny G, Did you 'Google' this- TOYOTA TARGETS MINORITIES RIP OFF, and read....

AUTHOR: Karl - Highlands Ranch (USA)

SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 03, 2010

the related articles and the Ripoff Reports on the web?

Thank You

********************************   ALERT   *********************************

Stay updated each day about Toyota by 'Googling' this- TOYOTA TWITTER SLUDGE, and go to that site for valuable information.



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#17 Consumer Comment

Googled it Karl...

AUTHOR: Ronny g - North hollywood (USA)

SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 03, 2010

Can't seem to find much info..other then some nut case named Karl who is on a ton of blogs telling people to 'google' BALTIMORE SETTLEMENT CALIFORNIA TOYOTA. Is this an old settelment? I can't find much info. When you google it all that comes up is you requesting to google it.

But I would imagine the system worked..would you not agree? Apparently a finance company was discriminating, got sued and had to pay? May explain why so many different races of people drive Toyotas? Did you do any research Karl? How many people from each ethic group got a piece of the settlement? I just can not find any info.

As far as sludge, I have googled sludge to death. Turns out it is 100% preventable if you change your oil regularly, check for the start of it forming when changing oil to catch it early (the sludge can be removed before it causes any damage), and to use a quality oil..a synthetic is best. Toyota will cover certain older models. So if someone has an older model Toyota and has kept records of regular oil changes, by all means google to see if your engine is covered if any damage was caused by sludge.

That seems to be the appropriate measure and good advice.

But what it has to do with this report is beyond me. Seems this post is regarding a coupon that was not honored by the dealership, and an overcharge for waste disposal fee.

The complaint does not mention any problems with financing, race discrimination or sludge. Just another distraction by Karl. No surprise there. I apologize for Karl to the OP for taking away the credibility of the report.

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#18 Consumer Comment

Ronny G, If you 'Google' this- ENGINE SLUDGE, and go to the consumeraffairs website about 'Toyota Engine Problems' and click on- 'Airbags'....

AUTHOR: Karl - Highlands Ranch (USA)

SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 03, 2010

you'll be able to read the many complaints from Toyota owners whose airbags did NOT deploy when they were in collisions, right?

Question: Why do you think that the 'airbags' in these Toyota vehicles did NOT deploy?

Anxiously awaiting your response.

Thank You

Karl

P.S. There's a response for you in the consumer comments section at the OBAMA page of this site at one of the Ripoff Reports.

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#19 Consumer Comment

Karl

AUTHOR: Tech1 - Laurel (U.S.A.)

SUBMITTED: Monday, October 04, 2010

The answer is easy people don't understand what delta V is required for the deployment of air bags out of the many pages I read maybe 5-10 that I would have to see. You don't understand the delta V that is need deploy airbags do you Karl? Our Ford Focus had 1,500 dollars in damage from a truck backing into it in the parking lot the hood and head light was replaced and the bumper was painted. Should have the air bag deployed?
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#20 Consumer Comment

Tech1, Don't forget to visit the BANK OF AMERICA page of this site because....

AUTHOR: Karl - Highlands Ranch (USA)

SUBMITTED: Monday, October 04, 2010

a new song was just submitted and it might be available in a few hours, okay?

Thank You

P.S. If a Toyota vehicle is in a collision with another vehicle, but the airbags in the Toyota did NOT deploy and the airbags in the other vehicle did deploy, how would you explain that to the Toyota owner?

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#21 Consumer Comment

Master Mechanic Jim here

AUTHOR: Jim - Millbrook (U.S.A.)

SUBMITTED: Monday, October 04, 2010

Knodk it off KARL, it's Obvious you don't know shit about Engines. Automobiles or anything importaint.

You're just screaming for attention, like any other three year old.

So as of right now, I'm not reading ANYTHING with the Karl byline.

Grow up.


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#22 Consumer Comment

Jim, Don't forget to 'Google' this- ENGINE SLUDGE, and go to the consumeraffairs web site about 'Toyota Engine Problems' and read the many complaints....

AUTHOR: Karl - Highlands Ranch (USA)

SUBMITTED: Monday, October 04, 2010

from Toyota owners whose engines sludged, okay?

Then click on- 'Airbags' and read all of those complaints from Toyota owners whose airbags did not deploy when they were in accidents.

Finally, 'Google' this- TOYOTA TWITTER SLUDGE, and go to that site to stay updated about Toyota.

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#23 Consumer Comment

Go away Karl

AUTHOR: Stacey - Dallas (U.S.A.)

SUBMITTED: Monday, October 04, 2010

Not one person gives a crap about your google, poems and nonsense - Maybe you would be better off in the nearest psych facility - you can google that!
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#24 Consumer Comment

well Karl..

AUTHOR: Ronny g - North hollywood (USA)

SUBMITTED: Monday, October 04, 2010

I know you are anxiously waiting my response. Tech1 explained it. You do not understand that the problem is AIRBAGS and the SRS system..not a problem limited to Toyotas only..Not that this info has ANYTHING to do with this report..which is about a cabin filter replacement..but I will reluctantly appease you AGAIN for the sake argument.

Toyota sells more cars then most. So in all logic..wouldn't it be expected they may have more complaints? So why single them out karl? Did you get suckered by a Toyota dealership and are now on a mission to bring the whole company down?

Honda....

My airbag didn't deploy in a front-end collision? - Yahoo! Answers


Dodge..

Air Bags didn't deploy at 35 MPH - Car Accident Advice


Hyundai..

Car crashworthiness and Airbag Deployment: Hit or Miss?

BMW

Airbag didn't deploy - Bimmerforums - The Ultimate BMW Forum

Ford

Woman Concerned For Safety After Airbag Didn't Deploy ...

Audi

Airbag didn't deploy WTF? - AudiForums.com

Jeep

Air bags didn't deploy - Jeep Wrangler Forum

Mazda

Air Bags didn't deploy in daughters wreck

Kia

Airbags didn't deploy - Kia Forum

Chevrolet

Air bags didn't deploy - Chevrolet Forum - Chevy Enthusiasts Forums


I could do this forever but why Karl...why???

Airbag Complaints Leading Complaint Among Consumers | Auto ...




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#25 Consumer Comment

Anyone can read "SLUDGE POEM" here at Ripoff Report by simply typing in- TOYOTA SLUDGE,...

AUTHOR: Karl - Highlands Ranch (USA)

SUBMITTED: Tuesday, October 12, 2010

and that should take you to Ripoff Report #269840 where that poem appears.

Thank You

******************************   SONG ALERT   ******************************

*Don't forget to 'Google' this- STEAK DINNER POEM, and that should take you to Ripoff Report #529757 where a new song was recently posted in the consumer comments section.

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#26 Consumer Comment

Sludge and steak dinner poems...

AUTHOR: Ronny g - North hollywood (USA)

SUBMITTED: Tuesday, October 12, 2010

I guess Karl has the answer...better yet, lets write a poem about steak with sludge sauce and kill two birds with one stone.

Then when ever a customer pays to much for a simple cabin filter replacement, they can sing this steak with sludge sauce poem and see if it gets them a discount.

Or...buy a filter, open the glove box...slide out old filter..discard...slide in new filter, close glove box...fixed. No sing a longs or poetry required.

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#27 Consumer Suggestion

Always request a detailed estimate BEFORE letting the work be done!

AUTHOR: Steve - Bradenton (U.S.A.)

SUBMITTED: Wednesday, October 13, 2010

You only have yourself to blame here.

You should always get a detailed estimate BEFORE getting the work done. Then, if there is something on it you don't like, you can challenge it with the service manager, and/or go somewhere else.

YOUR choice.

No ripoff here.

 


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#28 Consumer Comment

o-boy

AUTHOR: Tech1 - Laurel (U.S.A.)

SUBMITTED: Thursday, October 14, 2010

Arguing with karl is like talking to my 2 year old but she is smarter. all you can say is Define KARL: a Broken record that repeats useless information with no change.
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#29 Consumer Comment

Tech1, Don't forget to 'Google' this- ENGINE SLUDGE, and go to the consumeraffairs web site and click on- 'Airbags', and read where airbags are not deploying....

AUTHOR: Karl - Highlands Ranch (USA)

SUBMITTED: Thursday, October 14, 2010

in Toyota vehicles when they were in accidents and collisions, okay?

Thank You

P.S. If you have a bank account or a mortgage, please visit the BANK OF AMERICA page of this site and the MERRILL LYNCH page, and also the GMAC page and read the Ripoff Reports for valuable information.

Have a nice day.

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#30 Consumer Comment

This guy

AUTHOR: Sparky - (United States of America)

SUBMITTED: Thursday, October 14, 2010

Karl has got the be the biggest forum troll ever.... I mean, all he does is come in here with his "google this" "google that" garbage and stir everyone up in a frenzy with his distractions and worthless posts. He even manages to get a few morons to support him here and there. Honestly I should be thanking him because being able to read the back-and-forths between you guys provides hours of comical entertainment. If everyone just ignored him he would probably go away.... just my guess.
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#31 Consumer Comment

No such luck sparky..

AUTHOR: Ronny g - North hollywood (USA)

SUBMITTED: Friday, October 15, 2010

I was told by someone a while ago to just ignore him. I did for quite some time. I guess I will again. But i have decided recently to confront him..since ignoring him did not work. Might as well have a little fun in exchange for the annoyance and distractions.

I just feel a bit for those who came here to lodge a legitimate report and have it subjected to this nonsense. I also feel he takes any what little credibility this site has left.

The thing is...you may ask him why he is talking about engine sludge on a simple report about a cabin filter replacement labor charge..and he will reply with steak dinner poems and googling the Fed and bank death sweeps etc. How do you reason with that?

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#32 Consumer Comment

Sparky, Make sure to read about the "FORGERY" that was reported at a Larry Miller Toyota dealership by Carol....

AUTHOR: Karl - Highlands Ranch (USA)

SUBMITTED: Friday, October 15, 2010

of Glendale Arizona, okay?

Simply go to 'Consumer Comment #3' at this Ripoff Report in order to get the info.

*You can also stay here at Ripoff Report and type in- LARRY MILLER TOYOTA, and go to Report #331575. 
(It's currently the 5th Report at the 'Larry Miller Toyota' page of this site.)


******************************   SONG ALERT   ****************************

"WALL STREET SONG 2" was recently released and should be available at the BANK OF AMERICA page of this site soon.

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#33 Update By Author

Thanx "Barbie"

AUTHOR: kishjo2004 - Forest Hill (United States of America)

SUBMITTED: Friday, October 15, 2010

Thanks for the post "Barbie" !

Honestly, I have considered writing that book! I'll be sure to include a "thank you" just for you.

Perhaps you can include a chapter on tolerance for careless mistakes and blatant disregard for other individuals property.



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#34 Consumer Comment

LOL!

AUTHOR: Sparky - (United States of America)

SUBMITTED: Friday, October 15, 2010

You don't reason with him... he's a tape recorder for conspiracy theories from the minds of basement-dwelling, whackjob morons. Why would I bother googling his suggestions? For all I know, half of them are laced with keyloggers or are just a complete waste of time altogether. If I am interested in researching something, I'll do it myself; I don't need some anonymous one-trick pony to try and sell me on his insanity. I just found the interaction to be humorous... you can give him all the logic in the world and refute every single one of his arguments intelligently, and all he does in response is spout off google suggestions and horrible poems. I guess some people just get off on some strange, strange things.
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#35 Consumer Comment

"WALL STREET SONG 2" is now available at the BANK OF AMERICA page of Ripoff Report....

AUTHOR: Karl - Highlands Ranch (USA)

SUBMITTED: Friday, October 15, 2010

in the consumer comments section at Ripoff Report #411913.

P.S. Sparky, You can read about someone who obviously "got off" one day at the White House by 'Googling' this- HILLARY AT WHITE HOUSE ON 'STAINED BLUE DRESS' DAY, and the information is at the ABC News web site, okay?

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