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  • Submitted: Sunday, January 10, 2010
  • Last Posting: Wednesday, January 20, 2010
  • Reported By: steve — chesterfield Missouri Virgin Islands (US)
Findlay Acura
315 Auto Mall Drive Henderson Nevada 89014 United States of America

Findlay Acura Sold car out from under me despite signed agreement and $5000 deposit. Sales Manager, "I found someone who was willing to pay more so we sold it to them" Henderson, Nevada

*UPDATE Employee: 08 mazda miata with 2732 miles


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On December 28, 2009 I agreed to purchase a 2008 Mazda Miata, VIN JM1NC25F880147362, from Findlay Acura, 315 Auto Mall Drive, Henderson, Nevada 89014.  The purchase price was $18058.45 inclusive of all fees as per phone and email communications with John Pool, Sales Manager.  I learned about the car from an Internet ad and, since I live in Chesterfield, Missouri was concerned about my inability to visit the dealership to inspect and drive the car.  Based on assurances from Mr. Pool that a deposit would reserve the car while I arranged for its inspection on my behalf by a third party and a promise that the car would be "taken off the lot immediately" upon receipt of a $5000 deposit, I authorized that this amount be charged to my Mastercard account that same evening.  I spoke with Brian Parvin, General Salesmanager/Finance Director, on December 29, 2009 and provided all of the additional information he requested in order to expedite the preparation of paperwork necessary to complete the sale. 


I informed Mr. Pool when I received the sale papers from Findlay Acura via FedEx on December 30, 2009 and told him that the inspection date would be between Monday the 4th and Thursday the 7th of January.  He acknowledged this and stated that this presented no problems with regard to the hold on the car.  Mr. Pool indicated that the car had been removed from the lot and that as soon as I received results of the inspection and returned the signed papers along with payment of the balance due the car would immediately be released to me or to the transport company I had arranged.


Mr. Pool contacted me multiple times on Monday January 4, 2010  to update me on the status of the inspection and ultimately to let me know that he had spoken to the company and scheduled the inspection for the following day. On Tuesday morning January 5, 2010 I received a voicemail message from Mr. Pool requesting that I contact him by phone.  When I returned his call he informed that he had sold the car the previous evening to someone else because they were willing to pay more money for it.  This was the full extent of his explanation and he offered no apology for having taken this action.  


I briefly discussed my understanding (and questioned Mr. Pool's) of the purpose behind the $5000 deposit.  I also pointed out that I had been provided a Retail Purchase Order and other supporting documentation which verified the previously agreed upon terms of our agreement, all of which were signed as "Accepted by Authorized Dealership Representative".  I reminded him that he had been aware, in advance, that the prepaid inspection was set to occur within hours of our conversation and that he had expressed no misgivings with this timing as evidenced by the content of the multiple emails he'd sent the preceding day.  Again, Mr. Pool made no mention of any problem with the hold on the car, the timing of the inspection relative to receipt of the deposit or any other explanation for having sold the car out from under me beyond repeating,  "I found someone who was willing to pay more so I sold the car to them."


I have read all of the papers included in the packet Mr. Parvin sent via Fed Ex, including the reverse side of the Retail Purchase Order.  Please note that I am not asking for nor am I entitled to reimbursement of any other costs I incurred associated with inspection, transportation or insurance of the vehicle. I do, however, feel that I am entitled to an explanation regarding Findlay Acura's actions.


I believe that Findlay Acura failed to meet legal and ethical obligations to deliver a car (due to circumstances completely within their control) after asking for and receiving a sizeable deposit to hold the car and after an authorized representative of the dealership acknowledged acceptance of the terms of agreement by affixing their signature to the documents. 


My interpretation of Findlay Acura making unilateral changes to the purchase agreement is that it represents both unfair and deceptive business practices.   I am hopeful that bringing this situation to light will help protect others from such unseemly business conduct in the future.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 1/10/2010 9:45:59 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/auto-dealers/findlay-acura/findlay-acura-sold-car-out-fr-d3c4a.htm. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 Consumer Suggestion

Never Leave A Deposit

AUTHOR: John - Memphis (U.S.A.)

#1 Rule in car buying: Never leave a deposit.

It is nonbinding on the dealer. Its purpose is to keep the buyer on the hook, period.


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08 Mazda miata with 2732 miles

AUTHOR: FINDLAY ACURA - HENDERSON (United States of America)

Mr. Schwartz agreed to purchase the 2008 Mazda Miata with 2311 miles with some conditions. First that he could back out at any time for any reason.

we then notified him that the 2008 Mazda  Miata with 2311 miles was under full factory warranty , one owner and we would present a car fax to prove it.

 We also said that if the 2008 Mazda Miata with 2311 miles was not as we represented ,we would resend the deal. We also said we would put it in writing. Mr. Schwartz was adament about the "back out for any reason"clause.

 He then said he wanted to have the car inspected and that it might take some time to arrange. We replied, not a problem but if it is going to take some time the vehicle would still be offered for sale.

 Mr.Schwartz wanted to know why, if he had a deposit on the 2008 Mazda Miata with 2311 miles. We informed him that we cannot hold inventory for long periods of time with out a true commitment to purchase.

 This first conversation happened on the 28th of December. We then came to an arrangement via phone . The 2008 Mazda Miata with 2311 miles would be kept on the lot for sale until the contracts were received back from him.

 And only then would we remove the vehicle from inventory because that would eliminate the "back out for any reason" clause. The deposit that was received would hold the price agreed upon.

WE then asked for all the pertinent information. 

Mr.Schwartz then calls  on 29th of December to give the details that we have been asking for on the previous day. We then sent out the Fed-Ex that day.

 On the 30th of December Mr. Schwartz calls ,after our calls to him to provide us with the inspector information, and says that the inspector will be out on or by the 7th of January. 

 In an effort to expedite the sale we called the inspector and got him to come earlier than the 7th.

 we arranged for the inspector to come on the 4th of January..On the fourth of January the inspector had not arrived and the contracts were not sent back to us. a customer came to our dealership from Utah and purchased the 2008 Mazda Miata with 2311 miles. 

After that transaction we then notified Mr. Schwartz of the sale and of the agreement , That the vehicle was for sale until we received the contracts. We then  thanked him for the opportunity and refunded his deposit per our agreement. 

 

Findlay Acura has  had  no issues with out of state transactions until this one. Our policy is that any car offered will be as represented or there is not deal, in writing. Findlay Acura's reputation in the community is impeccable and we strive every day to ensure that it is maintained.

 Our goal is to bulid lasting relationships,not one time sales.These things are easily check with the  Henderson Chamber Of Commerce, Las Vegas Chamber Of Commerce and the B.B.B.

Please check our community involvement by going to our website. click the events tab,and see for yourself. FindlayAcura.com

FindlayAcura                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            GeneralManager                                                                                                                        James Cobbs   

 


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