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  • Submitted: Monday, February 11, 2008
  • Last Posting: Thursday, August 07, 2008
  • Reported By:Hanscom Massachusetts
Dollar Rent A Car
DTG Inc, Tulsa Oklahoma 74182 U.S.A.

Dollar Rent A Car; Dishonest, untruthful, and unethical when dealing with its customers Tulsa Oklahoma


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I travel a great deal for business and so deal with a lot of rental car companies, the worst, and one I will never use again is Dollar Rent a Car.

Recently I rented a vehicle from them in Phoenix, AZ when I went there on a business trip. When I landed at Skyharbor airport they did not have the type of car I'd reserved, I wanted a full-size car, so they gave me something else that I wasn't happy with. It was late at night, this can happen, although a reservation should mean just that, and it that was all that happened I wouldn't be writing this right now.

The following morning I drove BACK to the airport to exchange the vehilce they had given me for the type I'd originally reserved. I was in a hurry as I had a business meeting that morning. They gave me a Dodge Magnum and I was on my way. When I got back to my hotel and got out of the vehicle I saw that there were deep scratches down the drivers side including the initial "W". someone had obviously "keyed" the car. I hadn't noticed it when I picked up the car because it was in a dimly lit garage, it was parked between two other cars, and I was in a hurry.

There were also two co-workers present who saw me pull up and observed the damage too. Note; I had driven directly from the airport to my hotel, I hadn't stopped anywhere.

I turned the car in three days later and explained to the person at Dollar that the scratches had already been there when I got the car but I hadn't noticed them until later and so didn't mark them on the inspeciton sheet of my contract. And here comes lie number one;
He stated that I had to fill out a report on the damage and sign it. I stated again that the damage had already been there and I wasn't signing anything that admitted responsibility because I was not responsible. He told me, three times, that it was not an admission of responsibilty, that he just needed to document the damage. Foolishly I believed him and filled out the form and signed it. This form was later included in Dollar's claim against me as an admission that the damage occurred while I had the vehicle. So, I was induced to complete and sign this form under false pretenses, as in, I was lied to, three times.

Weeks later I recieved a telephone call from Dollar's subrogation department about the damage. I explained what had happened to the woman on the phone but at the time coudln't recall the exact details, it hadn't been something I thought important, I've rented cars with minor damage hundreds of times in the past, I've never had a rental car company extort me to foot the bill for the damages.

The woman stated that they had no record of the damage until I picked up the vehicle and that means it must have occurred while I had it. She also stated to me that "she lived in Phoenix and this kind of thing happens all the time". I realized later that this woman works in Dollar's subro department in Tulsa, Oklahoma...Phoenix to Tulsa, that is one hell of a commute! So, bald faced lie number two.

I later called the woman back and left her a voice mail message stating that i did recall what had happened and that the scratches had already been there, and that I had two witnesses. Yeah, yeah, I know how lame that sounds but it happens to be the truth.

She never returned my call but instead sent me a packet with a demand for payment for repairing the damage to the vehicle. She stated that it was my responsibility to check the vehicle before leaving the facility with it. Isn't it their responsibility not to provide me an inspeciton sheet with my contract that stated, incorrectly, that there was no damage to the vehicle?

The damand also stated that, in addition to the repairs I was repsonsible for four days rental that the vehicle would be out of service for repairs; four days to buff out some scratches?? I've checked with several body shops in my area and they've all laughed at that. Not to mention the fact that they're assuming the vehicle would have been rented for all four of those days...lets just pad the bill a little folks.

What this comes down to is they had a brand new car, a Dodge Magnum, that someone, probably one of their own employees, keyed, and they want someone else to pay for it. Since I was stupid enough to take the car without examining it from bumper to bumper (something you can believe I do now), then I'm the chump they're sticking with the bill.

I rented the car on my AMEX card so I do have insurance to cover the cost of the repairs but that's not the point. Dollar Rent a Car lied to me, several times, pretty much called me a lier for not believing what I told them, and extorted 700 dollars out of me for repairs that I was not responsible for.

I will never do business with them again and I suggest that no one else does either. There are plenty of other rental car companies out there.

If you are silly enough to though, examine the car you rent with a magnifying glass before you leave their garage, and other than you rental conract do not sign ANYTHING, no matter what lies they tell you.

Kevin
Hanscom, Massachusetts
U.S.A.

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#1 Ex-Employee

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AUTHOR: Kyle - Muskogee Area (U.S.A.)

You know, I hate to hear this, but it does happen all the time. In all reality you shouldn't have been held responsible for damage you didn't cause, but how can you prove it? A long time ago I fielded calls for a rental car company on complaints like this. If you would've made contact with the company as soon as you noticed the damage then 95% of the time they will not hold you responsible. Three days later. Now, I really want you to sit back and look at it objectively. Three days. Phoenix. That location rents out hundreds of cars on a daily basis. Things happen, and most businesses understand that things are overlooked. But you waited three days to report the damage. That doesn't lean things in your favor.

The damage report that you had to fill out is pretty standard procedure for most rental companies. As far as admitting fault for the damage, that would depend on the way the form was worded. I wasn't there, so I'm not sure if it stated that completing the form was contingent with admission of fault. You were there. Did you read it? I have found that fewer and fewer people read what they're signing anymore.

This brings me to my next subject. The contract. You stated your AX card has rental coverage. That's good. You don't have to pay for the damage. However, most CC rental coverages do not cover what is known as "Down time." I will apologize ahead of time if this was not stated in the contract you signed at the beginning of the rental. If it was not stated, please disregard the following comments. Down time is the time the vehicle is out of the fleet waiting to receive, and receiving repairs. Yes, 4 days is a long time to repair scratches on a vehicle, but it may not necessarily be a long time to wait for a paint and body shop to have an opening. Rental car companies usually offer Loss Damage Waiver (LDW). It covers physical damage (under reasonable circumstances) and also covers "Down Time." I'm assuming this was declined.

Yes sir, I do believe in part you were treated unfairly, if in fact the damage really did not occur during the three days you had the car without reporting any damage. But you could have improved your odds by reporting the damage immediately and reading your contracts.
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AUTHOR: Evenstar - Albuquerque (U.S.A.)

It is unfortunate this happened to you. Please note potential renters, not having an inspection slip, or "I forgot" does not relieve you of your responsibility. It is true this damage may have existed before you rented ,however, it is the renter's responsibility to note ALL damages. If an inspection slip is not provided to you, ASK for one. If this damage was missed because it was too dark, call it in to a manager. Don't expect a company to pay for damages that may or may have not been there previously but was not documented by you. Also, an attendant is not responsible for noting damages, you are.

As for the car being out of service for four days, this can happen depending on the circumstances. If the car was returned late at night, over the weekend, etc. You are then, as the contract discloses, responsible for the loss of use of the vehicle. That doesn't mean it would have been rented for those lost four days but the point is it was unavailable and not bringing in revenue.

Renters, make it your job to know what is expected of you as a renter because "I was in a hurry" or "I didn't know" just is not being a responsible adult or consumer. Remember, you are renting at a minimum a $12,000 vehicle. Of course the company is going to protect their investment.
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Dollar Rent a Car Phoenix

AUTHOR: Kevin - Hanscom (U.S.A.)

Regarding the comments made after my initial report; I have taken note of the points made and have changed the way I rent cars; I look them over carefully, but I also no longer rent from Dollar or their sister company, Thrifty, and neither does anyone else in my office.

I understand what the contract says and no, I didn't take the additional insurance, what I may have failed to make clear was that we're talking about some scratches, not body damage, not serious damage. I've been renting cars for many years and have had some with more damage than this on them that the rental company in quesiton shrugged off. Little dents, scrapes, etc. It's a rental car for gods sake! These were scratches that unless the car was in direct sunlite you could barely see. That being said, I was on business and so, I was busy! I judged the situation from past experience with other companies I deal with regularly (Hertz mostly) and expected similar treatment. I was wrong.

The scratches were there when I picked up the car, the fact that I didn't notice them and let it go for several days (again, I was busy), was a mistake but once again, I've had hundreds of rentals with such damage that no one payed any attention to. This was a brand new car and Dollar obviously wanted the damage repaired and didn't want to pay for it. I had two other people to vouch for me that the damage was there, and my word, which I know counts for nothing these days. But you know what? It still counts for something to me. And I felt like I was scammed by Dollar. And don't try to tell me that charging me for "down time" is not a scam. Can you give me a guarantee that that vehicle would have been rented on all four of those days? Please, and waiting for time in the body shop? If that had been your car, with some scratches on it, what would you have done while waiting for the body shop? You would have driven it, that's what you would have done. I'm in business too and I know when something sounds plausible and when something doesn't.

Since my intial comment I did write to Dollar expressing my feelings about this and didn't recieve a reply; silence.

And you know what? At the end of the day we're talking about customer service, about how you treat your customers and the result of that treatment. Fine print and what the contract says is all well and good but in the end if you treat people the way I was treated by Dollar, you lose them as customers, forever. In this case they've lost the other empolyees who work for me as well because I don't allow them to use Dollar/Thrifty while traveling on business. Was that worth $700 to fix some scratches? Not in the world I do business in it isn't.

I'm more careful now, I've learned a valuable lesson, but that doesn't change my advice; if you rent from Dollar (or Thrifty) insist that one of their managers go over your vehicle with a magnifying glass before you leave their facility. Or better yet, still look the car over before you drive off but rent from someone else, always.
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