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Complaint Review: First Union Now Wachovia Bank

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  • Submitted: Thursday, September 10, 2009
  • Last Posting: Saturday, September 12, 2009
  • Reported By: penniless in pinellas — pinellas park Florida USA
First Union Now Wachovia Bank
p.o.box 40031 roanke Virginia United States of America
  • Phone: 8009224684
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  • Category: Banks

First Union Now Wachovia Bank wachovia na woke up to find they stole my money for my mortgage payment roanke, Virginia


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this bank overdrafted my account to the point I would never catch up. I opened a new account with them trying to close the old account but they would not let me nor would they take payments. I had 600.00 in the other checking account for my mortgage payment and other bills. They took that money and made the new account bounce. I have written to the ag of the state of florida and also the ftc. This scam should not be tolerated by the banks.

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#1

so

AUTHOR: Stacey - Dallas (U.S.A.)

What did your check register state?? My guess would be you never kept a check register therefore it is your fault that you cannot manage your own finances and NO I do not work for any bank


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So this Stacey...

AUTHOR: Ronny g - North hollywood (U.S.A.)



You claim you do not work for any bank. So are you a designated authorized ripoff report forum moderator? If not..what did you have to gain by your comment?? Or by blaming the poster without knowing all the facts and if the poster does or does not keep a register, or if keeping a register would have done anything to prevent said fees.

Now with that said...we do need more info on this report..it is very vague. It is stated "the bank overdrafted my account"..what does that mean? The bank normally would not overdraft an account unless there was an actual overdraft incurred by the customer.

You also state "they took money and made the new account bounce". None of this tells us anything useful. Before anyone can assume the bank ripped you off..or if you are at fault for any or all fees..we would need to know the details and the reasons the bank charged any fees. Only then can any of this be rebutted or agreed with.

In the last statement is says "this scam should not be tolerated by the banks". So the bank was scammed? I do not understand the statement.















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fraudulent acctivity

AUTHOR: penniless in pinellas - pinellas park (USA)

the point is there was fraudlent activity on the account causeing these overdrafts. The branch was suppose to help me in filing a dispute. they have all the documents and there hasnt been any resolution to this.
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"they" overdrafted your account?

AUTHOR: Maggie - San Antonio (U.S.A.)

How exactly did "they" overdraft your account? If you keep an accurate check register, and don't spend the money until AFTER it's posted to your account, "they" cannot overdraft anything. 
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'Google' this- WACHOVIA COMPLAINTS SECRET LIFE INSURANCE POLICIES, and read that article!

AUTHOR: Karl - highlands ranch (U.S.A.)

Then 'Google' this- BANK EXECUTIVES PROFITING ON THE DEATH OF EMPLOYEES, and read that article too!

And you might as well 'Google' this- BANKER TURNED FORECLOSED HOME INTO PERSONAL PARTY PAD, and read that one.

WELCOME TO AMERICA- IN FRAUD WE TRUST!

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So this Ronnie...

AUTHOR: Inspector - Tobyhanna (U.S.A.)

Keeping an accurate register WILL prevent these fees.  Do you think the banks are all crooked and just out to rip people off (like Karl)?  Maybe Stacey has many years of banking experience, as I do, and just trying to educate these cry babies that cannot manage their funds, that the problem is THEM.

We come here to educate ourselves on the misfortune of others so as not to happen to us.  Opinions as to how to do this is a gain if you have an aptitude for it.


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I've Never Advocated This...But This Is A First

AUTHOR: Jim - Anaheim (U.S.A.)

I actually believe this report should be removed and the OP either given another chance to post a report that makes sense or not to post anything.  Banks do not overdraft an account - people do.  You can't close an account that has a negative balance in it.  A bank can take money from one account that has your name on it to satisfy the negative balance on other accounts.  That's not a banking policy - that is something legal under common law for hundreds of years and applies not simply to banks.  Banks don't tolerate scams perpetrated against them.

To this point, I have no seen anything on this report and the follow up that would consist of any fraudulent activity on the account.


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Repies to Inspector..and Jim...

AUTHOR: Ronny g - North hollywood (U.S.A.)



Inspector stated...

"Keeping
an accurate register WILL prevent these fees.  Do you think the banks
are all crooked and just out to rip people off (like Karl)?  Maybe
Stacey has many years of banking experience, as I do, and just trying
to educate these cry babies that cannot manage their funds, that the
problem is THEM."

I
can not (nor can anyone) debate whether or not keeping a register would have or have not
prevented any fees in THIS case..there is not any info given as per the
specifics which caused said overdraft...however the OP is claiming
"fraudulent activity". So what does that in itself tell us??  Nothing.

Unlike Karl, I stick to the topics of the
reports, and rebut if I feel the bank did wrong and someone puts all
the blame on the consumer. Now granted karl seems like a kook and
extremist..but some of the links he suggests we visit..seem to be
factual and reported from legitimate news agencies..perhaps we can
learn something..even from a whack job..

As far as me thinking
"the banks are all crooked and just out to rip people off"...perhaps
this is a gray area as apparently the laws have been protecting
them..but you tell me..from these statistics of the fees the banks have
collected due to re-sequencing and charging fees for transactions which
had the funds at the time of transaction...


Industry statistics.

Banks are projected to collect over $38.5 billion in overdraft fees for 2009, nearly double compared to 2000. The fees, usually incurred by low-income customers, are considered "easy money".


The
bank will try to tell us that the re sequencing highest to lowest is
some kind of "courtesy"..as well as the manipulations making things
even more confusing and other tactics used to "encourage"
overdrafting..well consider... "we're protecting the $1000 withdrawal
by docking you for the $1 withdrawals" argument fails to hold water at
all. You have "overdraft protection," which is really another name for
"unlike the old days when hitting your limit would stop the transaction
and keep your finances safe, we're going to let you think you have
enough money until you get the NSF notice from us at which point you
owe us a quintillion dollars." If that big transaction at the end of
the day would overdraw your account by $50, they're going to cover it
just as they would cover a smaller transaction that would overdraw your
account by $50. Claiming they're protecting large transactions by
processing them first is just playing smoke and mirrors with numbers.


Jim...












I agree with your reply..this post should be removed..but it won't be.

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Ronnie

AUTHOR: Stacey - Dallas (U.S.A.)

I have been banking with the same bank off and on for over 20 years (due to moves) - I reconcile my bank statement every month, keep an accurate check register and do not rely on atm balances or online balances - OH for your info I bank with FDSB - look it up (or as Karl from Wonderland would say Google it)

I DO not work for any bank (but I do hold a BBA) - I am just pointing out the obvious - learn to manage your money period

 


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no hard feelings Stacey...

AUTHOR: Ronny g - North hollywood (U.S.A.)

The fact that you have been banking for 20 years and keeping an accurate register is all well and good. Your advice not to rely on ATM and online statements is also very good, sound advice.

Stating to learn to manage your money is good advice..and as you also stated you are "just pointing out the obvious".

But..does the obvious need to be pointed out in this case?..where we no nothing of what actually happened..and the report itself is incomplete, and incomprehensible?

Regardless of all your credentials as a banking customer, and all your expertise as a money manager..you would need some kind of "sixth sense' to make a rebuttal..or agreement to this report...all I can make of it is that fraudulent activity caused the bank to overdraft the account and the money they took caused a new account to bounce.

How can that limited amount of information allow you to reasonably conclude that this did or did not have to do with the customers financial managment..or whether or not they used a register..and if so, used it incorrectly?


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