Changlin Group Choi Seng Group Daniel Lin, David Choi, Larry E. Coey, Laurent E. Coey, GAMIC, gamicusa.com, Tim Vogl, Bountiful Financial Upfront fees are sent to a non-existent due dilligence company by a fake venture capital firm Taichung, Nationwide

I overheard from a very reliable source that a  few companies got hit hard! To keep my friend's name out of this, Crossfire Marketing Group lost thousands of dollars for several Carlsbad companies getting them involved in this Scam. Not sure the company names hit hard but he called it T1 or something like that. However, the ENTIRE scam was organized EXACTLY as this individual claimed. To the last detail. Beware!!!

My friend got caught up in this company thanks to CROSSFIRE MARKETING GROUP's brillant recommendation of this Changlin Scam Group. It's amazing what information is out there on all these deals. It's only a matter of time before ALL Players names are reported. Word has it the FBI is already looking into this. The funny this is not a single thing form this report is false. Line for line it's true.



I may not be able to leave numbers or emails but look me up anytime and I will tell you the truth. John Hames.

We had a project that we asked the Coey's and Gamic LLC to submit to Changlin for funding on our behalf. Although we did not ultimately go down this funding path, we have engaged Gamic for some additional professional services of which we are perfectly happy.

This Changlin venture capital funding may be a scam - we don't know. But if it is a scam, based on our experience, it is our belief that the Coey's are victims as well, not perpetrators.

You're right, you don't know whether this was a scam. 

If you weren't ripped off by GAMIC and Bountiful, as many were, how can you weigh in on this scam?  There are other scam reports about Coey online dating back a number of years.  Talk to the many who've lost hundreds of thousands of
dollars. 

It's curious that the Coeys wanted to incorporate their scam offshore investment companies in Panama.  Funny that this email originates in Panama as well.  Such a transparent financial center!

This kind of thing is so typical nowadays when someone in business is scorned, when their business proposals are turned down.  They take to the internet and file scam complaints in an effort to slander a company. We have been dealing professionally with Laurent (Larry) and Tim Coey and GAMIC LLC for several years, and know them on a personal and social
level as well. In their dealings with us they have been nothing but professional. Their integrity and honesty are above reproach.

   If there is a scam involved, it is a Chinese scam, which is an unfortunate reality in the world today. If anything, perhaps the Coey's are victims.  The REAL scam involves those perpetuating the complaints against the Coey's.  Real shame it is so easy today to write anything on the internet and sway public opinion.  Let's see concrete EVIDENCE that the Coey's are in any way involved in anything not above board.  The real investigation should be on those slinging the mud.  I would love to see the FBI investigate the company doing the slandering. If you have no evidence, then cease and desist. 

Our company presented two opportunities to the Changlin Group under the same format that has been expressed in the previous reports here.  GAMIC, USA facilitated that meeting and opportunity for us.  Although, after going through the process, I am unclear if the actual scenario is a scam or not and have certainly speculated it has been more ineptness than some diabolical plot.  In the end, we were certainly disappointed in the outcome, but realize that in business, this is often the case.  I do find the attacks on the Coey's and GAMIC, USA to be odd.  At no time, before or after, the negative realization did we feel like they were involved with Changlin.  If anything, they seem to be as surprised or more.  I am sure their disappointment and reputation concerns with clients and friends has been enough.  These unfounded claims of complicit involvement are just petty.  If Changlin has done wrong, let's direct the ire at them and not at a group that fell prey to the same words of opportunity we all did. 

If Bountiful Financial and GAMIC USA are victims of this ripoff are victims and not perpetrators in this ripoff, let's see them provide answers to any of these questions:  Why did they never visit either Choiseng or Changlin's offices if they were doing hundreds of millions of dollars worth of business with them?  Why did no one ever answer the phones at either office?  Why was there only a recorded message at all times?  Why did neither company have a website?  Why were they never listed in the Chamber of Commerce or Government companies directory?  Why, after dozens of companies never received a thin dime in transfers from Choiseng and Changlin, did Vogl and Coey keep bringing company after company to meet with "David Choi" and "Daniel Lin" (one and the same person) at the same hotel in San Francisco? 

The fact is that Vogl and Coey aren't naive.  They won't answers these questions because they can't.  They are posting anonymous rebuttals, from fictitious companies that never got money money from the fake shell overseas companies, but who just happen think that Vogl and Coey are swell guys and unfortunate victims in this long running scam.

Please spare us the fake rebuttals.  No one is buying.