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Complaint Review: American Family Insurance

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  • Submitted: Monday, July 28, 2008
  • Last Posting: Friday, April 03, 2009
  • Reported By:Madison Wisconsin
American Family Insurance
6000 American Family Parkway, Madison Wisconsin 53783 U.S.A.

American Family Insurance Premium Rates Based on Credit Score for huge profits only Madison Wisconsin


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I have been a long time customer of American Family Insurance. Although I have had no complaints about their service or their rates until now, I found out that because American Family Insurance is loosing profits to other companies they have adopted the policy of basing rates for insurnace on credit scores as a way to increase their revenues.

When the company sent me my warning letter, I called the rate increase hotline to complain about the rate increase, something they indorsed if you disagreed witht he rate change and the woman I spoke with was not only rude but down right beligurant, stating that "Most companies are using this system to base rates from. We aren't doing anything illegal, we have checked with the current laws." Illegal no, unethical yes.

Insurance premiums, in an ethical sense, should be based on your previous insurance history NOT wheither you are a poor financial planner or not. What made me even more irrate was the fact that the hotline was suppose to be set up to get the facts about what was going to change, which was never explained to me. In essence the hotline was another fluff tactic used to make you think they cared about their customers which I belive they do not. Just a profit.

Wouldn't it have been a big win for American Family Insurance to say "Hey, most insurnace companies base rates off of credit scores, yet we believe that you the consumer are more important than that and only base scores off of your previous insurnace history. Wow would they have had a rush of people trying to get insurance with them and profits still would have gone up without having to screw America.

Per about.com
"Using a Credit Score for an Insurance Quote and an Insurance Policy Premium is Unfair.
Critics feel using a credit score for an insurance quote or insurance policy premium is unfair and hurts only the working class. A great deal of consumers that have a low credit score are blue collar workers. Opponents argue that the low economy has put a strain on the large amount of working class in America. While struggling to pay for basic necessities they may miss a few payments, which in turn could make their insurance policy premium or insurance quote skyrocket.

In many areas public transportation is not readily available and insurance is a necessity. Also, in the case of many Americans who have no health insurance, a medical emergency could be even more devastating when one is having a hard time paying the medical bills and then come to find that their insurance policy premium has been raised tremendously because of a few missed medical payments. Opponents feel the new credit score system by insurance companies just makes the working class fall even further behind."

According to Consumerreports.org
"FTC Study Confirms That Credit-Based Insurance Scores
Mean African Americans & Hispanics Pay More for Auto Coverage."
(((link redacted)))

If your rates have gone up due to this practice I encourage you to find a company that does not use credit scores to base your premiums on.

tapasman
Madison, Wisconsin
U.S.A.

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More info for those that say this is fair

AUTHOR: Tapasman - Lake Mills (U.S.A.)

per TFC.gov (google this if the link is removed)

For Release: July 24, 2007
FTC Releases Report on Effects of Credit-Based Insurance Scores

http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2007/07/facta.shtm
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Credit based insurance scoring

AUTHOR: Goiner94 - Plymouth (U.S.A.)

I am an employee and insured of Amfam. My credit is used to determine the premiums I pay for my homeowners and auto policies. I am ok with this because during college I took a risk management course and learned that all larger insurance companies used credit based insurance scoring to determine insurance premiums. It has been proven that there is a direct correlation between credit scores and the number of claims filed. Few people understand the amount of money it costs if an insured files a claim, even if no payment is made.

The fact that the FTC has determined that some minority's tend to have lower credit scores and have to pay more for insurance doesn't mean that it is unfair, it just is what it is. Would it be different if more green eyed people had lower credit scores than brown eyed people? The facts cannot be changed. This is no large scale conspiracy to charge minoritys more for insurance or beat up on down on your luck people, it is a solid business plan to spread out your risk.

Finally, if you think property and casualty insurers are making a ton of money get real. Have you seen the weather for the last 5 years? AMFAM does not insure in the primary hurricane states, but was destroyed by losses in September of 08 when IKE made its was across the Midwest. You can find their annual report on www.amfam.com. AMFAM lost $300,000,000 last year after taxes. Something has to change and everyone can bet that it will result in higher premiums.

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Bulls**t about amfam loosing money last year!

AUTHOR: Tapasman - Lake Mills (U.S.A.)

I am also an employee of amfam and it is complete bullshit that they lost money last year. they have losses but the profits outweighed the losses. post the profit and financial report witthout editing if they lost money and prove it. they have hundreds of millions in profits they are holding to pay claims. check your bonus and 401k and see how much money they lost. they doubled my homeonwers rate, literaley doubled it, for no reason other than my credit score. We have never even filed a claim against our homeowners policy. The ONLY reason amfam is going by credit scores is because the are a money hungry corporation that is greedy. nothing else. they wouldnt do it if it was fair and lowered profits no company would. I really hope all the changes that are coming in government laws regarding insurance will stop companies like this from making such huge profits simple by screwing it's customers.
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