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Complaint Review: Vinitti Cash Flow System

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  • Submitted: Saturday, July 25, 2009
  • Last Posting: Wednesday, July 07, 2010
  • Reported By: — Plantsville Connecticut
Vinitti Cash Flow System
223 W. Bulldog Blvd. Provo, Utah 84604 U.S.A.

Vinitti Cash Flow System Ripped Me OFF Provo, Utah

*Consumer Comment: ANDREW - Read all Statements before spewing out foolish rebuttals.


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Like Lorraine from Bellflower CA., this so-called company ripped me off. They did respond to my e-mails by telling me I needed to read chapter such in such of '5 steps to True Wealth' or whatever the name is. I read it over and over and I still couldn't do it.

One thing they fail to mention, is that the $299.00 investment, is just the beginning. Then you have to pay for one thing that leads to another that leads to another..and so on. But, they fail to mention that until AFTER you pay the 299.00. I have even e-mailed them that I was going to get my state Attorney General involved in this. I cannot afford to lose that kind of money.

To them it might be a drop in the bucket or pocket change, but, I am a recently divorced woman who works very hard for my money and I'll be damned if I am going to let them cheat me out of it. I tried my best and did what I could afford to do in the past 90 days, now, I want my money back and I will get it, with or without their cooperation.

Etta
Plantsville, Connecticut
U.S.A.

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#1 Consumer Comment

Vinitti is for real.

AUTHOR: Ryan - Riverton (USA)

SUBMITTED: Thursday, October 29, 2009

This is for all those who haven't actually put Vinitti to the test:

I've used the Vinitti system for a month now and can honestly say that Jacob Clement 
delivers exactly what he says.  When I called or emailed him I would get a response 
within 24 hours, usually 2-6 hours.  The videos are there and very helpful and if you 
still don't fully understand they will help you!  I have made the most money using this 
system than any other program I've tried in the last 7 years of being self-employed.  
That's how powerful the training and support they give are. 

Don't believe me?  Email me at: ryanrcasperson@gmail.com.  I have nothing to hide, neither 
does Jacob or anyone using his cash flow system because IT WORKS!  
My site, www.Easy-Biz-Money.com, is still up because it works.  
Most people doing something online can't keep their site for more than 2 weeks, if that, 
because they aren't making ANY money!

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#2 Consumer Comment

I take everything back...

AUTHOR: Ryan - Riverton (USA)

SUBMITTED: Monday, March 15, 2010

My review of vinitti (from a real member):

First off, I share this to help others looking to join vinitti be aware of what has happened to me and others in the program. I hope this helps.

I have marketed this system since I joined back in September of '09. I started out pretty good, making a few hundred dollars, and then as I got closer to the cashing out threshold it slowed down and stopped...I kept getting decent traffic, just like I was before, but the money and sales stopped. 

So I decided to investigate and find other members who may have had the same problem. I have found 3 others that are having the same problems and I have found only one person who is making great money (that person happens to be Jacob Clement). 

I thought things were great at first as my account was filling up with sales here and there. I read over theterms and conditions and it states that money in members accounts that haven't been in their for 180 days becomes property of vinitti, inc. This is scary to me and I have fair reason to believe this is what Jacob is doing especially when I tell him I'm going to buy it through my wife so I can finally be done with vinitti and cash out. He says I can't because only 2 per family can have the system...he tells me to read over the T&C sometime. I do and there's nothing in there that states that a family can only have one copy of the vinitti cash flow system. I tell him this and he's never replied since. 

Yes, I really believed this system was great. Yes, I even defended JC and others on scam websites. I have to wait until I get further evidence to prove whether he's truly scamming others or not (even though I now believe he's doing this, at least to me and the others within this). I am reporting him and will leave it at that. If he truly cares for others, great, but I haven't seen it. The customer service has had it's up and downs and be aware that he'll only reply back if he wants to. It's not your typical good customer service you're probably looking for. 

He can have the money as I'm not promoting this anymore and won't reach the cashing out bar. I do feel bad for ever being involved and getting others involved with the same problems I'm having. I've learned many things over my life and I now know not to ever work or be associated with Jacob Clement. I hope all the best for him, if he's actually doing the right thing. If he's not, consequences will make sure he pays for it sooner or later, just like I have.

I hope those reading this and considering vinitti will not rush into the decision and realize you get what you pay for. You now know and will not be surprised with no refunds (it is stated on the t&c). I choose to work with those with clickbank as it's a trusted site and yes, you can get a refund if it doesn't meet your expectations or for whatever reason you have.

All the best in your business, family and life endeavors.
Ryan Casperson.
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#3 Consumer Comment

I take everything back...

AUTHOR: Ryan - Riverton (USA)

SUBMITTED: Monday, March 15, 2010

My review of vinitti (from a real member):

First off, I share this to help others looking to join vinitti be aware of what has happened to me and others in the program. I hope this helps.

I have marketed this system since I joined back in September of '09. I started out pretty good, making a few hundred dollars, and then as I got closer to the cashing out threshold it slowed down and stopped...I kept getting decent traffic, just like I was before, but the money and sales stopped. 

So I decided to investigate and find other members who may have had the same problem. I have found 3 others that are having the same problems and I have found only one person who is making great money (that person happens to be Jacob Clement). 

I thought things were great at first as my account was filling up with sales here and there. I read over theterms and conditions and it states that money in members accounts that haven't been in their for 180 days becomes property of vinitti, inc. This is scary to me and I have fair reason to believe this is what Jacob is doing especially when I tell him I'm going to buy it through my wife so I can finally be done with vinitti and cash out. He says I can't because only 2 per family can have the system...he tells me to read over the T&C sometime. I do and there's nothing in there that states that a family can only have one copy of the vinitti cash flow system. I tell him this and he's never replied since. 

Yes, I really believed this system was great. Yes, I even defended JC and others on scam websites. I have to wait until I get further evidence to prove whether he's truly scamming others or not (even though I now believe he's doing this, at least to me and the others within this). I am reporting him and will leave it at that. If he truly cares for others, great, but I haven't seen it. The customer service has had it's up and downs and be aware that he'll only reply back if he wants to. It's not your typical good customer service you're probably looking for. 

He can have the money as I'm not promoting this anymore and won't reach the cashing out bar. I do feel bad for ever being involved and getting others involved with the same problems I'm having. I've learned many things over my life and I now know not to ever work or be associated with Jacob Clement. I hope all the best for him, if he's actually doing the right thing. If he's not, consequences will make sure he pays for it sooner or later, just like I have.

I hope those reading this and considering vinitti will not rush into the decision and realize you get what you pay for. You now know and will not be surprised with no refunds (it is stated on the t&c). I choose to work with those with clickbank as it's a trusted site and yes, you can get a refund if it doesn't meet your expectations or for whatever reason you have.

All the best in your business, family and life endeavors.
Ryan Casperson.
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#4 Individual Responds

Reply to Ryan of Riverson on Vinitti System

AUTHOR: Andrew - Concord (USA)

SUBMITTED: Wednesday, July 07, 2010

Hey Ryan...you make me laugh...you said you have a website as you are a Vinitti member right? So that means that Vinitti does require you to set up a website to promote the business so the only way you can make money is to get other suckers to sign up.

Oh, by the way Ryan, you said your website is up and working correct? well I went to www.easy-biz-money.com which is the website you said you had and which was active and here is what shows up:

http://search3.comcast.com/?cat=dnsr&con=ds&url=www.easy-biz-money.com

So since your website is not working...you are lying also like Clement is.

You see, everyone, as you search you find that after the $299 charge you don't get support...not everyone understands all the instructions and they need assistance which they are reporting not receiving.

You are also told there is never another charge after the $299 but I have read dozens of complaints of people who were required to purchase additional items, pay for domains and websites, and spend hundreds of dollars more than the $299 reported.

Do not waste your money with fools who require you to get more people to purchase the program in order to make money.

So tell us Ryan...if you are making money cutting and pasting information as Clement states, why did you have to create a website? Well let me tell everyone why. You have to direct people to YOUR website (which by the way doesn't work...lol) and promote the Vinitti system. And for every person who pays $299 for the Vinitti system you get paid a commission.

You contradict yourself Ryan...your website doesn't work...you are a shill...and you lie.


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#5 Consumer Comment

ANDREW - Read all Statements before spewing out foolish rebuttals.

AUTHOR: Ryan - Riverton (USA)

SUBMITTED: Wednesday, July 07, 2010

If you would actually read all my statements you'll see I "took everything back" about Vinitti.  That's all I'm going to say in this response.  It's obvious I'm not a liar as I did clear up everything and updated everything on this site and others.  

Abraham Lincoln said it best, "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."

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