ACN World Headquarters: When you think you're out, they drag you back in, Internet

I have seen the ACN pitch several times.

When you challenge the "cult leader" on the viability of the program he/she gets very hostile. I actually got thrown out of a presentation on ACN in Las Vegas! I laughed so hard at these fools.

I asked them questions they simply could not answer. I made statements regarding their "math" as it simply did not make sense in the real world. I told them the REAL "stats" on MLM.

For anyone who doesn't know, the standard operating procedure in any MLM is to "fake it til you make it". They all do it. I have been involved with many, and they are all the same.

Here is how you separate the men from the boys in an MLM presentation.

Challenge their claims of income, and personal wealth they claim to have aquired from the "opportunity" they are pitching.

I start small, and then escalate. I first ask them for weekly/monthly/annual sales and commission reports. Normally thay cannot produce them, so they will create some BS diversion like "thats against policy", or "I have them at home" or some other nonsense. This means they are full of crap, hence the motto "fake it til you make it". Confirmed. This is the part where you RUN FAST!!

Think about it using a little common sense. If someone is actually excited about an opportunity that they have actually made money with, they would be more than glad to show you the proof. Again, just common sense.

I challenge them regarding the fancy cars they drive to these meetings. Normally the key speakers and top recruiters will rent a very nice, exotic car to bring to the meeting. Then I bust them, as soon as they spout how successful they are and reference the nice car, that is when i challenge them in front of everyone to show me the registration! This was the final straw that got me thrown out of the Las vegas meeting! The jerk off there rented an exotic car from the Las vegas Exotics car rental on Tropicana and Swenson. My first tip off was the little bar coded sticker on the back window, and my second was the license plate fram that said "Las Vegas Exotics".

Various state and federal authorities are still hot on the heels of ACN as it is so close to a pyramid scheme it keeps their attention.

Do they still charge that ridiculous $500 fee to join? My question on that was "what do I get, EXACTLY, for my $500 enrollment fee". Never did get a straight answer on that one.

The real answer is it goes to your upline for recruitment bonuses and commissions.

This is what makes this a pyramid scheme is that more emphasis is placed on recruitment of new members than on the sale of legitimate products and services.

ACN is not only a CULT, but is a PYRAMID SCHEME, and a scam.

RUN FAST if approached by an ACN cult member.

The previous compliant is hard to believe. I am an attorney, and I have been an acn rep for two years. To pay 1000 dollars per month for products and services is not consistent with my experience with hundreds of reps. Buying magazines or CDs on auto ship is at most 200 bucks. I suppose the complainant entered into perhaps a cell phone and/or satellite tv 2 year agreement (which is with the parent company not usually acn) and blames acn for signing the contract. How would that the fault of acn? And as an attorney and consumer, neither direct tv nor dish "automatically" renew svia bank draft for another 2 year agreement. I don't believe any of the major cell phone carriers acn brokers with does that either. Could the complainant provide details to support the 1000 dollars per month, and also details on what contract was automatically renewed for 2 years? Without this, I would find the story " hard to believe".

My background is as attorney and acn rep for 2 years. In the previous note, the gentleman indicates he has been a member of multiple prior MLMs and has seen the acn presentation multiple times, and uses this basis among other things to judge the opportunity unfavorably. I did not see a presentation, my introduction was to help a friend I cared about by being their customer. In researching the company, I decided to become an agent. I have never been involved in a prior MLM. I am a team coordinator in acn, and it has been nothing but a positive experience for me. I have actually aid many of my downlines membership fees, and I view this company as a chance to help others. It truly is a personal development course attached to a comoensation plan. It has helped me become a nicer, more outgoing and friendlier boss. My staff don't quit as frequently. And I feel it is important to set the record straight. The reason we do not usually disclose income is because it could open the company to clomplaints of "income claims". Some disgruntled MLM agent might state so and so said he made x dollars. Even if true, this could be used against the company. Additionally, I would not disclose my law practice income to someone. Most people would not tell a stranger their income either. Why would this be any different. I can tell you that I do very well. But it has taken work. And as for the claim that this is close to a pyramid scheme, allow me to clarify that nothing could be further from the truth. One can join acn. One can acquire 25 personal customers in electricity cell phone, or satellite tv, even their own services. One could save every single one of these customers money on a service they would be paying every day anyway, often with the same cell phone company. 25 services allows as to make 10 percent return on the bill of 40 dollars. Assuming 25 customers, each with a 40 dollar bill, that would be a billing volume of 1000 (25x 40=1000). 10 % of 1000 would be an income for that rep of 100 dollars per month. That would be 1200 dollars per year. Considering the cost to join and purchase the franchise is 500 dollars, that would be a 240 % annual return on investment without signing up or recruiting a single person. So much for then pyramid scheme argument which is false. No recruitment whatsoever is necessary to succeed. What is required is work ethic and a no quit attitude, something a person who has been joining and quitting many network marketing companies may not possess.

Hey Mr. Lawyer, you need to step back from the ACN Kool Aid!

First of all, ACN is presented to potential recruits as a business opportunity. So, would you buy into a business without looking at the books, and/or checking out your prospective "partner?

For a lawyer, you are pretty dumb if you think this is unreasonable.

Second, MOST people that get into these programs are not well off, nor do they have a flexible job, or even any expendable income. That is the whole reason they are looking for something else.

Again, just common sense in the real world, but you college boys usuually don't have any common sense.

You need a reality check. Your statements just don't cut it in the real world, which is where most people live. I'm talking about long hours at a dead end job with little or no free time at all. That is reality for most nowadays.