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  • Submitted: Tuesday, June 21, 2011
  • Last Posting: Wednesday, March 07, 2012
  • Reported By: Sarah — Montello Wisconsin United States of America
Alien Computer Services
PO BOX 472 Denville New Jersey 07834 United States of America

Alien Computer Services CompuTechnologies, buycomputerpartsdirect.com, Takes your money, may or may not send product, charges "penalties" for disputing, can not contact anyone! Denville, New Jersey

*Consumer Comment: Still doesn't mean they aren't a scam


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I o­rdered a motherboard through Alien Computer Technologies on 3-24-11



Billed $163.84 on 3-26-11 through the credit card.



The credit card showed CompuTechnologies as the business.



Received email on 3-24-11 with 5 pages of policies that I never agreed to or saw before I purchased the product. When I ordered the product it said it was to ship on 3-31-11.



I placed order with the credit card and billing address and then I put in the shipping address just like every company has. I received a confirmation on 3-27-11 that stated that the product is only shipped to the billable address on the credit card, which is the billing P.O. Box number. Never did it state that when I ordered.



I received another email 3-27-11 stating shipping date was on 3-31-11.



On the 3-27-11 email it than showed the ship to address as the P.O. Box and then stated they cannot ship to any other address other than the billable address on the card. After I clearly remember having to put a billing address and shipping
address when I ordered the product.



They stated once the item is ready to ship I will receive a shipment confirmation and an invoice with shipping details. Received email on 3-31-11, with shipment date of 3-31-11.



On 4-7-11 I went to the support center where I had to jump through hoops and click to agree to all the policies they had been sending me via emails. After 10 pages of policies I was finally able to send a 100 letter message. I did simply asking for a tracking number or shipping confirmation since I was supposed to receive one when it shipped 3-31-11. I got a reply through the support center on 4-10-11 at 23:08 stating that the item left the warehouse on 4-7-11. And I would receive a tracking number. On 4-10-11 I received an email stating the product was shipped a few business days ago and please don’t respond or contact them until I receive an invoice. I jumped through all the hoops again in the support center and sent another message on 4-14-11 stating it had been over the 10 business days they said it would take to receive the product.  I received a message back through the support center stating they do not ship to P.O. Boxes and it is still within the policies shipment range, that I only had to agree to, to be able to send them a message. Did not agree nor ever see any of the policies when I ordered the product. I sent them another message on 4-15-11 wondering where the shipping confirmation and invoice was. Received email on 4-18-11, having another disclaimer and different policies. Finally received an reply to my ticket from 4-18 on 4-20-11 Sent another ticket 4-22 simply stating that if I had not received a shipping confirmation, tracking number or invoice by the 25th I would like to cancel my order.



They replied 4-23-11 by giving me there policies again.



I sent them another support message on 4-25-11 08:08 stating that I was going to order the product from another company so if they could please credit back the card because obviously they were not going to send it or an invoice or shipping confirmation. I received 2 emails on 4-25-11, 23:15 with the policies and then another one with a mock up invoice that just worded the policies and information differently. So they are now allowed to state that they sent me an invoice. Which it clearly was a fake someone just throught together to shut me up.



nor did I EVER receive a shipping confirmation or tracking number.



On 4-26-11 I called Capital One and disputed my transaction.



I received a package on 4-29-11 at the post office that needed 2 different sets of signatures and the only label on the package was my address and P.O. Box 472, 07834.



I refused the package after I left it at the post office and went to my computer and searched  “P.O. Box 472, 07834” when CompuTechnologies came up in the search.



I received a letter from capital one on 5-17-11 stating that the merchant agreed to a refund of $98.03, however the shipping and handling and restocking fee of $65.84 are non-refundable.



It was rebilled on my credit card on 5-20-11. I received a letter from CompuTechnologies stating that I broke policy and needed to send $80.45 for refusing package + $60.00 chargeback fee = $140.45 to them by 6-1-11 plus the $65.84 that I had already paid them.



I tried to contact company, impossible nor do they reply back to the support tickets.



On 6-20-11 I received another letter stating that they are sending it to a collection agency and I owe them another $40 for collections fee.



So now I owe them $180.45 + the 65.84 which I have already paid.



I feel this company is a scam, no email, no phone number, I never agreed to the policies until I tried to contact them. They have to hide their name CompuTechnologies under other names so people are not able to search engine them and see how they really do business. Someone needs to take action on this company because they are just scamming and scaring people. I had no problem paying the $65.84 which is outrageous for shipping, handling and restocking on a $120.00 part. But to pay the entire amount for the product, chargeback and collections NO THANK YOU. I would gladly like to settle this with them business to business however to not be able to contact a live person makes that impossible.



Yes I ordered it, yes I refused shipment after 5 weeks of runaround and asking them to cancel my order. I ordered the exact same part from another company and recieved it in 2 days.....I ordered this for a business, I work in customer service, I mail things to customers all the time. So I understand policies and why they are there. But they have clearely crossed a line.



All I can say it watch out, who knows what website name they will set up next all secretively ran by CompuTechnologies.



Sarah, Wisconsin

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#1 Employee

More Lies!

AUTHOR: Retailoperations - ABC (U.S.A.)

You have to live how people just lie.  Sarah Rainey buys an item and then falisfys a chargeback stating that she never received the item. turns out that the item was delivered and she purposely refused the item.

The pages of policies are there for one reason, people like this. You had clear knowledge of the chargeback policies and the for refusing packages. You were sent numerous emails and disclosures.

You purposely refused the item and falsified a chargeback for non receipt 2 days afterwards. All the policies where clearly disclosed upfront prior to any purchasing. You had stated you had read and agreed to these terms, and decided to purposely break them.

You were sent to collections as per the policies that you agreed to. It was solely your actions that brought this and no one elses.  So Sarah guess what, you clearly knew the policies, you knew the actions our company would take, and guess what we are enforcing the agreement to the letter. If you honored your agreement none of this would of happened. But you knew exactly what would happen and guess what it did happen.

When you agree to something, especially when its legal and blinding, honor it!
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#2 Update By Author

Do consumers a favor and shut down.

AUTHOR: toonman - MONTELLO (United States of America)

In my story above exactly which part did I “Live” to lie!? Every single detail was true. Does the truth hurt?

 

When I did claim a charge back….I still did not receive the item. So to what point is that “FALSIFYING”??

My actions of claiming a charge back is per your actions of never sending what I had ordered until I charged my card back. You only sent the item (or should I say a box because I am not sure there was anything in the box.) after I claimed it to the credit card company. I also sent you multiple support tickets begging for a ship date, shipping confirmation (which I was told I would receive), and then stating that I wanted to cancel my order because I was not getting any where with the support tickets. Did not receive any statements from a person, just more emails of your 10 pages of policies. Finally after realizing I was getting no where with you I contacted the credit card company.

 

People can make there own choices from who they want to order on the internet, all I am trying to do is to make people honest.

Crazy how you can use my name but I still don’t know yours and you are the one who took my money!?

The million dollar question is what is the real name of your company???

Alien computers? Compu Technologies? Computer Parts Direct? Computer and Electronic Sales? computechnologiesinc.com? computerpartsnmore.com? Buycomputerpartsdirect.com ?


And now who is this?? Another name hmmmmm!?   Retailoperations - ABC (U.S.A.) ??????????????


My point is, what good company needs 10 pages of policies that they hide until after they charge your card. A company that has no intent on sending the product you order.


What company has no phone number, no email, and multiple names? 
All I wanted was the product; funny thing is when I ordered from another company I had it in 2 days.

 

For consumers out there, I am just another person who orders things online like everyone else. If you think I was in the wrong, fine. However just type in Compu Technologies on the search bar on RipOff report……..


Why am I not the only one with this story? 
Multiple people, with all about the same story. They took $65 dollars from me and I refuse to pay a penny more to them.
 

I also filed a complaint with the NJ office of Consumer Affairs maybe if enough people do it something will be done. After receiving letters from a collections agency I wrote them and the company a letter stating the story and why I was refusing to pay.

Have not heard anything since, so don’t be afraid just write the collection agency a letter with no check attached. 
 

I am sorry to whoever gets scammed by this company it is hard to tell if it is them or not because of all the name changes and different websites. Hopefully one day Consumer Affairs can do something.

 


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#3 Consumer Comment

Good Job Sarah

AUTHOR: mr rik - miami (USA)

exposing this FILTH!
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#4 Consumer Comment

BS

AUTHOR: Retailoperations - ABC (U.S.A.)

Lets see which one is more believable, your bs comments, or the physical documents you signed and the USPS's tracking information clearly showing you purposely refused the delivery of the item. You came onto the sight for support and signed 4 or 5 documents at 5 different times and it stated point blank the policies for people like you falsifying chargeacks. Then it says 2 more times these policies, and yet you start to complain for something you outrightly knew but yet still decided to do it. Stupidity!

You knew exact what the actions our company would take and you decided to purposely violate this terms of service. The policies were clearly displayed prior to any purchasing taking place and yet in two parts of the checkout process, you said you read and agreed to them. If you didnt agree to them, simple, buy it some where else.

You think you can make up your own rules, do whatever you want to do, and disrupt a company's operations thinking nothing was going to happen? It said NO Po Box addresses clearly in red bold print on the checkout, so what did you do, you entered a PO Box address. You knew it and once again you decided to violate the terms of service.

The item came and you purposely refused it, we have the tracking information which clearly shows it. Then she files 3 false chargebacks, for non receipt of merchandise. Lets see non receipt claims and the item was delivered and you refused it purposely. Lets see sounds like a false chargeback claim.

You can sit there and sound like the innocient little moron victim, but the facts are the facts. You obviously have no reguards to agreements nor for anyone else except yourself. As long as you can screw people over, its ok for you. But the second someone says your not going to get away with your bs actions and take a stand, you go crying like the little girl you are.

She says she remembers putting both addresses on the order form. LIE! First there's only one section for addresses. And secondly, if it says again as you clearly admit, we ship only to the billable address on the credit card and we dont ship to PO Boxes, Guess what idiot. You cant use the card! But instead you said I dont give a crap about your policies and still did it.

By this time its already on your credit report and you deserve it! It was your actions alone that made this happen. You were given plenty of statements of what would happen if you carried out those actions. You made the sole decision to purposely violate the agreement, with full knowledge. So dont sit there and cry like the little bxtch you are!
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#5 Consumer Suggestion

Is This Place Legitimate????

AUTHOR: John - Memphis (U.S.A.)

Just had to check out the website and noticed major issues with it:

Domain registration is private (cloaked identity).

No contact information shown. Legitimate companies always like to provide potential customers their real physical address and phone. If you're operating out of your moms garage that could be a reason.

After reviewing the customer policy it suddenly hit me that you guys used to operate under a different name. Still in New Jersey. I checked out the CompuTechnologies website. A copy of this one. Do you change company names every month???

Are you guys legal or illegal aliens ??????




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#6 Update By Author

Please read. Business hiding behind garbage and bullying.

AUTHOR: toonman - MONTELLO (United States of America)

To start, stop with the name calling. Any legitimate company or respectable business person would not have to resort to name calling they would let there work speak for itself. The fact that you have to be rude and mean like a grade school bully as a last ditch effort speaks volumes as what kind of business you pretend to run.
 
In my report I did not lie, did not falsify any claim, did not hide the fact that I refused an unmarked box at the post office where you said you did not ship to. I did not agree to your 10 pages of mumbo jumbo before I ordered it, I was however forced to agree to all of it before I could send out any document an actual person may see and hopefully respond too. I again, did not hide that fact also. In your mumbo jumbo you are forgetting that it states I would receive a shipping confirmation when it was shipped. Why did I not receive one? If you are going to have policies follow them yourself also.
 
Your policies: (Which I received after I ordered the product)
CUSTOMER CONDUCT: We reserve the right to instantly void all warranties and communication with any customer who conducts themselves in a less then professional manner. Any buyer initiating chargeback of any kind, use of vulgar language whether in the form of verbal or written communication, or initiates any type of action which is deemed less then professional in nature, the customer will be in violation of our Buyer Conduct Policy. Therefore, any customer found in violation of this policy the product purchased will be purchased in an as is condition and all communication will be immediately cease between company and customer. Any buyer who uses vulgar language, initiates any type of chargeback, dictates instructions to our company on how to handle their order, spamming, initiating any type of blackmail threats, will be found in violation of our buyer conduct policies. This policy will be strictly enforced.
Can I get my MONEY back now since you obviously do not conduct yourself in ANY professional manner.
 
TERMS OF SALE: All sales are regarding are final for website purchases once the purchase has been finalized. The buyer agrees by completing the checkout process, the sale becomes finalized. There are no refunds unless the company does not ship product or is unable to obtain part within 30 days of the transaction date.

Again, can I have my MONEY back? It was 34 days when I claimed my chargeback.

Then all of a sudden 3 days after that a mysterious package is needing my signature in 2 different places at the Post Office.
 
Who only ships to a credit cards billing address? By no means is that a security reason or frankly any good reason you can ask your mommy to help you answer. It is just an excuse you can use to scam people. Also, why did I receive and unmarked box AT MY POST OFFICE if you are unable to ship it there especially since I sent you multiple emails for you not to ship it, cancel my order & lastly did not hear from you so yes I filed a chargeback because I did NOT receive anything. I find it funny that on my credit card it stated this came from a P.O. Box 472, my letter I received from you was from a PO Box 472, & my unmarked box you claim was from you had a tiny little P.O. Box 472. May I ask, where are your credit cards are billed to? How could you receive a package from a company like no other than your own?
 
I put this on the rip-off report, claimed it with the Better Business Bureau, and the NJ Consumer Affairs. If I didn’t feel so strongly about your scam of a company why would I spend my precious time on compu technologies and getting worked up every time I read one of your ridiculous rebuttals? All I wanted was my part that I ordered. I don’t just sit on the internet hoping someone will screw me over and spend my life arguing about it. I feel it is my duty as a consumer to make sure people are careful when ordering from you. I put the FACTS out there if people think I am in the wrong fine, but I am letting them make that decision. Your rebuttals are actually proving the kind of company you are more than anything I am saying.
 
Fix your policies, fix your shipping, have a real email, phone # or contact information, and your customer relations and I’m sure you could one day have a solid company.

Spend less time arguing on rip-off report when I’m sure you could be mailing someone’s product that they paid for 6 weeks ago.
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#7 Employee

And you wonder why

AUTHOR: Retailoperations - ABC (U.S.A.)

Its because of people like this is why certain procedures have to put into place. All these people agree to a set terms and conditions and then they think they can purposely break this agreement. Prior to any purchasing being made, we purposely put our policies up first and infront so everyone can make the decision to continue the purchase. All information is disclosed upfront and in the face of the buyer. They once again are asked during the checkout do you agree to the terms of sale and then its disclosed point blank infront of their faces at the end of the purchase.

In addition, they are sent anywhere between 5-7 emails which again states the shipment time of the product (repeated from the policies), or support link to the support site and all the policies.

You get people like this that buy an item and the terms of sale clearly state the sales are final. There is a restocking fee for all products returned without an RMA. They will purosely refuse the item, falsify a chargeback claiming they never got the item. And then attempt to continue trying to lie saying they never got the item, changing their entire store when they loss the first chargeback.

The policies clearly state the chargeback and collections policies. People dont bother to contact anyone, they will make up excuses and lie. The are too lazy to go to a website and complete a 200 character ticket. Rather they rather contact their credit card company and make the credit card company do the work for them.

They all know this information, they decide to violate these terms and think they can get away with it? As long as these people dont have to spend hours filiing out false chargeback claims and have fees due to their conduct not taken away from them, its ok if they attempt to screw someone over. Then when someone fights back you hear nothing but crying babies who dont bother to display the entire truth. Just their one sided stories to make themselves sound like the innocient victim.

Every single item which was purchased, was shipped exactly in the time frame we stated, we respond to every single one of these bs compalints with physical data. We dont say something and not back it up. You just go running your mouths in hopes that people arent smart enough to belive it.

Each one of these complaints have nothing to do with the the shipment or purchase of products. They are have one thing in common. They filed chargebacks against our company, they lost the chargeback, they knew the policies they had agreed to and decided they didnt care about it and did whatever they felt like doing, and we decided to enforce the agreement.

We dont post phone numbers for one reason. People like this. They go to the support site and they complete a ticket. We're not going to say they said this and we said that. The support ticket shows exactly what each party is saying. So there's no BS whatsoever. People will call the number and immediately hang up and then say they contacted the company. They will call 3 am in the morning and say the same thing. Or continually call over and over again, like 20 times in 15 minutes the second they get voice mail. People like these abused it so we changed it.

People are so easy to belive lies that they seldomly believe the truth. The second people like this one find another person who did the same thing as them, they start using whatever evdience or excuse they can find to backup their claims.

There's a procedure to follow, it was clearly stated, plain and simple follow it. But instead, they will by an item and then say oh i dont like to contact people via a ticket system so let me file a chargeback. And they will blackmail you and try to use chargebacks as a weapon if their demands arent met. We're not going to sit back and allow it. No one wants to allow them to have someone walk over them.
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#8 Update By Author

I will not allow a B.S. company to walk all over me!

AUTHOR: toonman - MONTELLO (United States of America)

"No one wants to allow them to have someone walk over them."

Exactly. That is exactly what you are doing.

"But instead, they will by an item and then say oh I don’t like to contact people via a ticket system so let me file a chargeback."

If you are to lazy to read what my claim said and obviously have no idea about the issue I am upset about. I, my friend was not the lazy person. I created many of your support tickets which I in return received B.S. answers. Why would I spend all my time proving this point if I was to lazy to send any tickets to your support group for sad customers. I even created a support ticket to cancel my order....Why did you not cancel it, before I had to claim a chargeback. I can go back and forth all day long about how compu technologies is in the wrong. I am simply putting my story out there and letting other people decide. None of my words are false. Simply put, DID NOT RECIEVE ANY SHIPPING CONFIRMATION AFTER 6 WEEKS!!!!!!!!!!! Receiving multiple emails with policies are not shipping confirmations. Again, why did you have no business name or any name in fact on the box that was sent? I am not going to accept something from the post office that is in an unmarked box.
If you did not have the part in stock you simply could have sent an email saying it will take a couple months to receive.
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#9 Consumer Comment

So Where Is The Company Wrong

AUTHOR: MP3Downloader - (United States of America)

So where is this AlienComputer company wrong.

1. if its says no PO Box address then you placed a PO Box address and its their fault

2. if I had my way i wouldnt even put a return address from it. your complaining of a mysterious box with no company addresss on it. wow thats laughable. you knew you bought something, gave someone that po box address and you dont know that you were going to get a package.

you bought the item and were expecting a package simple as that.

3. Why would the company have to incur any type of expense because you simply bought the item. You stated you purchased an item, it was there for the delivery and you refused the item, that shows the company shipped the product out. For purposely refusing the item you should be charged a restocking fee.

God only knows the times people refuse items or simply dont take delivery of an item. I sure as one wouldnt want to be out any expenses due to any actions of someone else.

4. Going back to the PO Box, company's only bill to the credit cards billable address esecpially for mail order due to the fraud involved. So if you knew that they dont take PO Boxes and your credit card was a PO BOx, then why did you place a PO Box address knowing fully they didnt take it and it was billable address only to where it shipped to. You you dont have a credit card that has a physical address. Sorry your fault there. No doubt.

Getting the product late sounds like it was your fault because you placed a PO Box address instead of a physical address. I just went to their site and it states in colored bold letters no po boxes. So its more than likely your figiting the facts here and making it sound like its their fault when in reality its yours. 

I dont know the facts here or what was going on, the buyer seems to be hidng the truth, the policies of the company are presented first before anything and I had to agree to the terms in order to start the purchase process, so if you say you read and agreed to the terms and continued with the purchase, then your legally liable buyer for the terms of sale.

It does say NO PO Box addresses and you admit placing a PO Box address deliberately, it states the chargeback policies there and you filed a chargeback in admittance, and you refused the item, which even my company charges a restocking fee.

My two cents, its that it sounds like some sort of misunderstanding or communication problem between you both. It should of been resolved in a professional manner without the course of such immature behavior on both your parts.

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#10 Consumer Comment

Additional Comments From Me

AUTHOR: MP3Downloader - (United States of America)

Here's another fact that doesnt make any sense from sarah :

you put in big capital letters that you didnt get the item in over 6 weeks. your own admittance that you bought the item on 3/24 and got the item on 4/25. That is not 6 weeks honey, thats 4 weeks. Under the mail order laws companys have 6 weeks to ship items out.

So your own admittance and statements are very contradictory. Sorry hon, just pointing out the obivoius. And yes dear I did read your commentary and theirs. Made my own concluions.
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#11 Consumer Comment

Yet another lie from the scammer

AUTHOR: Tagurit - (USA)

We dont post phone numbers for one reason. People like this. They go to the support site and they complete a ticket. We're not going to say they said this and we said that. The support ticket shows exactly what each party is saying. So there's no BS whatsoever.

No that's not it.  You don't post a phone # or a real address because you are hiding a scam.  Other companies in your line of business dont' seem to have the same problem at all.  And for your information there are systems out there that record phone calls that can be played back and/or transcribed to text.  And they don't cost that much. 
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#12 Consumer Comment

All threats no substance from Mr. Retaioperations aka Retardoperations

AUTHOR: Tagurit - (USA)

Yeah Retailoperations person you also said you had the tracking information on the person who filed the ripoff report # 737342.  He asked you to produce this "mysterious" tracking bill from UPS to contradict all of his evidence.  He even said he would retract his statement if you could do this.  And yet, here we are 9 months later and you still can't cough it up.  Might it be because you don't have it because YOU are the one that lied?  Then you threaten the guy that filed ripoff report # 737342 that you were going to file a lawsuit against him for slander.  So where is that lawsuit Mr. Tough Guy?  I guess you figured out you didn't have a leg to stand on or else you figured out you'd have to provide your real name and address.  Or maybe you just haven't been able to find a lawyer stupid enough to take it on.
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#13 Consumer Comment

Still doesn't mean they aren't a scam

AUTHOR: Tagurit - (USA)

I looked at a website for alien computer technologies.  Tons of misspelled words and poor grammer.   Two examples underlined in the sentence below - straight from their website.

Looking for Dell Hardware? A large majority of our company hardware is from the US's leading manufacture, Dell looking to upgrade? We got your the answer!                          

Amateur website poorly designed and no contact information - including this ridiculous "policy" this guy refers to.  I wouldn't have bought anything from this website just from looking at it.  Their domain name is even listed under a bogus company with no valid postal address.
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