Julie Cummins was given orders and even had papers notarized still doesnt pay child 17 now Escondido California

Julie Cummins has made some mistakes in her life (including staying with Joe of Winchester CA) She should have known when he told her he had sex with is ex-girlfriend now wife (Kelly) in the hospital parking garage while Julie delivered the child in question that he was not the guy for her. Joe and his wife Kelly (who if you want to investigate rip-offs check into why a perfectly healthy young woman who camps and walks and runs and drives gets state disability).

Kelly and to some extent Joe Duncan have made it there mission to make Julie fail at every turn. They have interfered with her relationships with her child, her family and employers. Kelly has even called Julie's employers and harassed them to such an extent that she has lost jobs. So, all I ask when you read anything these two vindictive individuals have written about her is please understand that not everything is as it seems.

Joe and Kelly have done nothing but completely stalk and harass me. The report they have filed against me is totally false and I have documented proof that each and every statement made is a total and complete lie. I have made child support payments regularly for over 3 years and have signed receipts handwritten by Kelly Duncan. I have paid all money asked of me until I was told they would never accept any more money from me again nor would I ever be able to see my daughter Kayla ever again.

On September 26, 2006 there was an incident with my oldest daughter that Kelly took plotted and schemed and falsly accused me of "beating up my daughter" to the Escondido Police Department, Palomar Hospital and to CPS. which I have a witness to the fact of my innocence. I was questioned and took a lie detector test and passed. Needless to say the case was dropped the officer said because "the supposid witness (Kelly) and the victim (my daughter) couldn't tell the same story twice".

Kelly had Kayla lie and say the most hurtful things about her own mother to try and put me in prison for child abuse. here is a little insight on this.. I have saved text messages from my daughter dated 9/19/07 almost a year later regarding this incident. it goes.."she (kelly) starting so much s*** with me and my boyfriend and I heard her say stuff about what happened that one day saying how she (kelly) played me (my daughter) into it to get you out of her life I'm done with her crap don't tell her or my dad that i'm talking to you though I will get into a lot of trouble" quote unquote.

and a 2nd one dated september 19, 2007 at 10:28 p.m. from kayla to me stating "Will you tell me the truth about what happened September 26th last year please cuz I think I have been lied to all this time". They won't allow me to see my daughter, it's been almost 2 years now. I would never hit or hurt my daughter Kayla in any way ever. They told the same lies to CPS and CPS substantiated based on lies and false allegations against me. They waited to take her to the hospital the next day after she sobered up. My daughter left my house with no injuries.

The very next she had somehow acquired injuries, a concussion and a few minor abrasions, no one can figure out what had happened over the 24 hours from the time she left my house til the time she finally made to the hospital. Kelly Duncan made up lies and told hospital and social worker that I was the one who had beat up my daughter Kayla and blamed me for Kayla's injuries. CPS needless to say came out to my home to try and take my son away over it. If I had hurt her she would of taken her to the hospital immediately not a day later.

Kelly has threatened me and told me that she will stop at nothing til she gets me. and believe me she hasn't stopped and won't. And she also says I will pay for what I have done to Kayla knowing damn well I have done nothing. I can't get these people to leave me alone. They stalk me mostly Kelly. I get Harassing emails constantly by both of them written by Kelly signed by Joe. She constantly threatens me with adoption of my daughter. She has made my daughter go against me. They have gone against a court order about not talking bad about me to my child and they fill her with lies and made her believe that I dont love or want her.

I am having to file a Harassment Restraining Order against Kelly because the harassment and mental anguish she puts me through is completely out of hand. Kelly uses my daughter as a weapon against me and has since she has lived with them and that was at age 6 not since birth like he stated. I also have documents to prove that to. I am a firm believer in telling the truth I don't feel it is right to tell lies about people especially out of vengence and definately not on this website.

There main rule of Rip off Report is they will not delete any report posted. This report not only has slandered my name it has caused me financial hardship, I have had extreme difficulty securing employment due to the lies written in that report. I just want to live my life and be left alone I am a law abiding citizen and do not have a chemical dependency problem.

It is really unfair for this website to allow that report to stay posted I cant have it removed even with a court order and Joe and Kelly Duncan are aware of this. This is just the beginning of their attempt to ruin my life. As of May 14 2008, I have a court ordered Restraining order against Kelly for Stalking and Harassment sealed and signed by judge Martin Stavin at Vista Superior Court. Thanks for listening to the truth and not judging me.

this individual seems to have placed this then rebutteled it also no knowledge to the report.another showings of pattern.

boohoo woe is me party. people also know that names are a dime a dozen hmmm is this really about you or someone else with that same name. are we who you think we are think before you act. youve shown your not a smart person perjury.contempt. ya point fingers think of your faults first.

when someone writes and writes and talks and talks to be so convincing they have something to hide as for we have nothing to prove and as we all know the detectives dont tell you anything about the other person during a case. the district attorney told me a little bit but i wont post that here. it is a shame though that a person puts a tack in their shoe to pass a lie detector test and law inforcement knows this to be true. saving text prove nothing when a child just tries to get you to admit your guilt but people that dont have any what can i say.

adoption threatening the individual with it no just something that will and is taking place.child taken to hospital after sobered up according to. is that because you and your husband bought the alcohol for the minor in question thats how you know shes was drunk ? or am i misinformed ? restraining orders yeah know all about them my advice to this whole case is dont want to see u either in court but we can pursue it better be sure where i was 5-5-08.i do have proof hate to prove u wrong in court.u seem to have enough trouble that really i dont have anything to do with. i heard bout it third party.so dont want anymore trouble for you but u lied again even on the restraining order you filed. and u know it.i have proof so ill see u 5-30-08 havent been served yet though so its not valid. .

hey u wanna talk about this since u have alot on ur plate call me u have my home # house.no bite game. and truly this was posted way back didnt realize it cant be removed. i apologize for that.and i wont reply anymore i deleted myspace that kayla set up and uses i wont play comp games with you.sorry about whats going on for you and your family.but we want to be left alone over here. and we have hang ups constantly kids claimed you did it not mentioning a kid . so if its not you it stops here. hopefully u can too.im truly sorry if your struggling in life.

AS YOU CAN PLAINLY SEE ONCE AGAIN KELLY DUNCAN HAS MADE ANOTHER FALSE ACCUSATIONS AND FILED ANOTHER FALSE SLANDEROUS POLICE REPORT TO LAW ENFORCEMENT IN ORDER TO TRY AND PUT JULIE CUMMINS IN JAIL BASED ON LIES TOLD BY KELLY DUNCAN. I CAN ONLY IMAGINE WHAT SHE HAS SAID AND CONSCREWED THIS TIME. I AM ALSO ANONYMOUS BECAUSE I DO NOT CARE FOR THE WRATH OF KELLY DUNCAN TO COME DOWN ON ME AND MY FAMILY. BUT I DO KNOW WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT I WILL STAND UP AND TELL EVERYTHING I HAVE WITNESSED AND ITS QUITE A BIT ABOUT ALL OF THE THINGS KELLY DUNCAN HAS DONE AND SAID AND LIED ABOUT IN JULIE CUMMIN'S DEFENSE BECAUSE I TO AM A CREDIBLE WITNESS. THIS LADY IS WRONG. THIS WOMAN NEEDS GOD IN HER LIFE. I WILL CONTINUE TO SIT IN THE BACK GROUND AND WATCH AT COURT HEARINGS AND KEEP MY EYES AND EARS OPEN AND I WILL BE THERE WHEN NEEDED. KELLY DUNCAN DOES NOT KNOW WHO I AM AND I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT THAT WAY UNTIL I HAVE TO SHOW MY EXISTENCE. UNTIL THEN KELLY BE CAREFUL IN THE LIES YOU DO TELL, I AM GOING TO MAKE SURE YOU DON'T HURT AN INNOCENT PERSON WITH YOUR FALSE ACCUSATIONS WHO DOESN'T DESERVE IT. IF YOU ARE STATING ACTUAL FACTS IT'S ONE THING BUT DON'T MAKE THINGS UP. JULIE CUMMINS HAS SOMEONE AROUND HER AT ALL TIMES FOR HER OWN PROTECTION FROM YOU. SHE HAS BEEN ADVISED OF THAT CONSIDERING WHO SHE IS DEALING WITH. SHE IS NOT HAVING HARD TIME IN LIFE SHE IS DOING JUST FINE. AND NO SHE NEVER GAVE HER DAUGHTER ALCOHOL OR EVER BOUGHT HER DAUGHTER ALCOHOL. THAT IS ALSO A LIE. DAUGHTER CONFESSED TO HER MOTHER JULIE CUMMINS SHE WAS DRUNK. IT IS IN THE REPORT HOW SHE HAD JUST COME HOME FROM A FRIENDS HOUSE THAT DAY MAKE SURE YOU READ YOUR DOCUMENTS BEFORE STATING LIES YOU COULD POSSIBLY CONTRADICT YOURSELF AND LOOK LIKE A FOOL OR LIKE THE LIAR AND HARASSER YOU TRULY ARE. COME ON JUST LEAVE THE POOR GIRL ALONE. GET OVER YOUR HATEFULNESS. LET IT GO. YOU WILL HAVE NO CHOICE NOW THAT SHE MOVING ON WITH HER LIFE AWAY FROM HERE. DON'T BOTHER LOOKING YOU WILL NEVER FIND HER THIS TIME..

do the crime due the time . take the blame for ur own crimes. stop blaming others and needing god in your life yes you do but when your possessed and the devil has ahold of you its hard to turn that around and julie when you say that your someone else o that makes it scarey someone talking for you .but when you involve your family they better be sure the perjury they are backing i do have proof. they can perjure themselves also move ok find you never looked.so thats not gonna be an issue. you lie too much keep track of your lies o you do you type them out. good job people shes getting good huh using this site too get away from the original email at hand not paying for the child in question all her life.but as i said before i will not reply to donna or u or u pretending to be donna or whomever u think u can act as. ur not worth the time. see u 5-30-08 prove u lied. once again then ill mail it to all ur family. so they can see u filed a fraudulent court paper.so maybe itll stop u from dragging poor people into ur lies be a woman handle ur things we know u cant take care of ur kids take care of something in ur life.get a bible like my family has find the lord and stop calling people bible thumpers. gtg its time for church. find a church take ur son.

this was a typo in the edit profile set up our listing is as followed and we are public about who we are. thank you. the duncan's

What are slander and libel?



SLANDER occurs when KELLY DUNCAN presents another person (JULIE DUNCAN CUMMINS) in a bad light based on lies. SLANDER is typically defined as being an ORAL DEFAMATION. Typically such SLANDER makes them look bad in terms or morals or moral conduct. Lifting a person up to ridicule and defame their character based on a false representation of facts.



When the DEFAMATION which occurs is WRITTEN, in PRINT OR BROADCASTED it is considered LIBEL. Both SLANDER and LIBEL are considered ‘torts’, and carry with them legal penalties (a tort is a legal suit under civil laws). Like many legal torts, questions quickly arise concerning what constitutes proof or evidence. (OH MY AND WHERE IS YOUR PROOF KELLY DUNCAN IN WINCHESTER CA).



GOSSIP can concern moral character with allegations of theft, infidelity, cheating, or other actions. It may also include allegations of drug use or criminal activities as well.

Spreading misinformation or distorting of facts occur by accident is very different from such actions occurring with a malicious intent. The malicious use of gossip can be based on REVENGE, political motives, or indirect assault on the person. REVENGE MINDED persons (SUCH AS KELLY DAWN DUNCAN aka.. KELLY DAWN KLEINSMITH as you can plainly read in above report),often try to destroy a person’s character indirectly through SLANDER AND LIBEL



Many times when people (such as this woman in particular) are HURT, they find ways of hurting those they blame for their hurt such as SLANDER the person .

(Information posted are indeed facts and can be found here: http://hubpages.com/hub/How-to-deal-with-Lies--slander-and-libel)



To prove defamation (or in this case libel), you need to show: 1) the maker (KELLY DUNCAN) made a statement; 2) the maker (KELLY DUNCAN) knew the statement to be false; 3) the statement was intended to harm the reputation of the person (JULIE CUMMINS) it is about; 4) it caused a loss of reputation; and 5) it resulted in damages



Here it is proposed to treat of verbal slander only, which may be considered with reference to, 1st. The nature of the accusation. 2d. The falsity of the charge. 3d. The mode of publication. 4th. The occasion; and 5th. The malice or motive of the slander. WHICH IS KELLY DUNCAN. WHO IS NOW MARRIED TO JULIE DUNCANS EX HUSBAND JOSEPH D. DUNCAN) NEED I SAY MORE.. EVERYTHING THIS WOMAN POSTS IS BASED OUT OF HATRED FOR HER HUSBANDS EX WIFE JULIE CUMMINS. SHE HAS ALSO TAKEN AND TURNED JULIE AND JOES DAUGHTER KAYLA AGAINST HER BIOLOGICAL MOTHER JULIE AND HAS BRAINWASHED HER AND HAS TOLD LIE AFTER LIE TO TURN HER AGAINST HER MOTHER. ONCE THE CHILD BECAME OF AGE THIS WOMAN KELLY CONVINCED HER TO LET HER ADULT ADOPT HER AND HAVE HER MOTHER JULIE TAKEN OFF HER BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND ALSO CHANGED THE SPELLING OF HER NATURAL GIVEN NAME THAT HER MOTHER JULIE HAD GIVEN HER FROM KAYLA TO CAILA OUT OF STRAIGHT VENGENCE AND SPITE. AND AFTER SHE HAD DONE SUCH A DISGUSTING AND UNEXCUSABLE SUCH A THING SHE WENT SO FAR AS TO CALL UP JULIE ON THE TELEPHONE WITH ANOTHER WOMAN ON THE LINE POSING AS HER ATTORNEY AND CALLED JUST TO LAUGH AND RUB WHAT SHE HAD DONE IN HER FACE TO HURT JULIE ONE LAST TIME BUT NEEDLESS TO SAY SHE IS RELENTLESS AND IT DOESN’T JUST STOP THERE AS YOU CAN PLAINLY SEE ABOUVE FOLKS.  FOR WHAT WHO KNOWS. KELLY DUNCAN IS A VICIOUS CALLOUS PERSON AND HAS BEEN MALICIOUSLY TERRORIZING JULIE AND HER DAUGHTER KAYLA FOR THE LAST 17 YEARS, NOW IT GETS EVEN WORSE. JULIES DAUGHTER KAYLA NOW HAS GIVEN BIRTH TO A BEAUTIFUL BABY GIRL. AND KELLY IS GOING TO NOW USE THIS CHILD AS ANOTHER WEAPON AND CONTINUE TO HURT AND RUIN ANOTHER INNOCENT CHILD IN HER QUEST FOR REVENGE. THIS RECENT POSTING REGARDING FACEBOOK WAS WRITTEN WHY? BECAUSE JULIE CONTACED HER DAUGHTER LETTING HER KNOW SHE LOVED AND MISSED HER AND IS THERE FOR HER IF SHE EVER NEEDED ANYTHING AND ALSO WAS LETTING HER DAUGHTER KAYLA AKA CAILA KNOW HOW BEAUTIFUL SHE THOUGHT THE BABY WAS AND ASKING HER TO PLEASE ALLOW FOR HER TO SEE HER GRANDDAUGHTER SOMEDAY. THAT IS ALL THAT WAS SAID AND THIS IS THE AFTER MATH OF IT ALL. SO PLEASE PUBLIC THESE ARE THE FACTS AND WHEN READING ANY POSTINGS IN  THE FUTURE THIS COLD INDIVIDUAL MAKES TAKE IT WITH A GRAIN OF SALT. AND JUST CONSIDER WHO WE ARE DEALING WITH. AND THIS IS WHY SHE IS PRESCRIBED PSYCH MEDS. END OF STORY. THIS IS POSTED BY SOMEONE WHO IS A WITNESS TO THIS WHOLE SCENERIO. AND HAS SEEN FIRST HAND THE DEVASTATION KELLY DUNCAN HAS DONE TO JULIE DUNCAN CUMMINS AND HER FAMILY. AND ANY WORDS OF ADVICE FOR KELLY WOULD BE MUCH APPRECIATED MAYBE HER HEARING JUST HOW THE REST OF THE WORLD FEELS  ABOUT WHAT SHE IS DOING AND HAS DONE MAYBE IT CAN HELP HER SEE THE BIG PICTURE AND MAYBE JUST MAYBE SHE WILL STOP THIS NONSENSE, STOP HARASSMENT AND HURT SHE CONSTANLY IS CAUSING FOR OTHERS. REVENGE IS A VERY EVIL THING AND IT IS NOT HEALTHY FOR THE VENGEFUL PERSON FIRST OF ALL OR TO OTHERS THEY TAKE THEIR HATE OUT ON. SO IF YOU ARE READING THIS TELL HER AND US HOW YOU REALLY FEEL ABOUT THIS. AND PLEASE ONLY SERIOUS POSTINGS NO TIT FOR TATS ON HERE THIS IS A VERY SERIOUS ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO STOPPED. AND HIV REALLY KELLY THAT’S STOOPING PRETTY LOW FOR EVEN YOU  ALSO ANOTHER FALSE SLANDEROUS STATEMENT.



EVERYTHING POSTED IN THIS REBUTTAL IS ALL FACTS AND THERE IS PROOF OF THESE STATEMENTS. KELLY DUNCAN IS  A BITTER AND VERY MENTALLY ILL.



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