#1 Consumer Suggestion
AUTHOR: Jim - Minneapolis (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, April 14, 2005
POSTED: Thursday, April 14, 2005
Todd,
Our family hopes you will see this injustice through to the end and bring court charges againgst Wal-Mart and the Columbia Police department. Include each person involved with this false arrest. Include the cops name G. Wise, badge #10855. Include the Wal-Mart store manager, also.
Wal-Mart is not the company they once were in the beginning. Now that the original owner is deceased, the Wal-Mart chain is becoming more and more vicious in the way they treat folks.
You would think, as a decent citizen, that your rights are protected by the police, but, as you see, even police officers are treacherous, too.
In fact, there are many police officers that are nothing more than legal bullies with guns.
In the end, Todd, you will only be hurting others if you do not follow through with lawsuits against the Wal-Mart store, and the Columbia Police Department. Officers like G. Wise, are a real threat to civilized society, and should be fired from the police department.
Don't let the bullies from Wal-Mart, and the bully from the Columbia Police department scare you off. Sue them! Make them pay! God does not expect us as Christians to be wimps! You have every right under God's law to sue these types of people for their malicious actions. Good luck, and God Bless you and your family.
#2 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Kathy - Phoenix (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, April 15, 2005
POSTED: Friday, April 15, 2005
Todd,
A few things don't make sense in your story.
>>Our normal task; would be for me and my children to go to the Deli section and eat or drink something while my wife picked up the items we would purchase. After I would consume the food, I would take either the empty container or take the Price Bar Code up to the cashier for payment. (I was told to do this many times by store employees).<<
If so, then they were violating store policy. WalMart requires all deli or food items to be purchased BEFORE being consumed.
>>I took the empty containers and Price Bar Codes with me to the cashier along with a full cart of items my wife had wanted. I gave everything to the cashier and had asked if she had scanned the empty containers and Price Bar Code items. The cashier confirmed twice she did. (At this point I usually check it myself, but my son was complaining that he needed to go to the restroom and I wanted to get back home because a bad thunderstorm was coming, so I trusted the cashier and went on to exit the store).<<
It would have taken at most 30 seconds to scan the register tape. Your son couldn't wait that long?
>>As I exited the store, a lady by the name of Debbie Miller approached me and said I consumed food and did not pay for it. I told her you are crazy, I paid for it. At first she did not want to look at the receipt. When I insisted, she looked and said nothing is on there. I was shocked and looked at the receipt and discovered the items I paid for (over $150!). Her face turned bright red and she left the room, she returned with items from a trashcan. She asked me if these items were mine. She demanded I sign some kind of a form.
I kept repeating lets go talk to the cashier and she can clear this up that I gave her all the Price Bar Codes and Empty Container items. Ask her! If there is a problem it is with the cashier, not me! Ms. Miller refused and left the room again. She returned with another man she said was her boss, he said call the police and secure the videotapes. I said, Sir, you are making a big mistake, I will fight this thing, and I have not done anything wrong. I am a devout Christian; and therefore would never do this! I demanded to see these videotapes so it will prove I gave everything to the cashier. They refused to let me see anything. I said let me call an attorney! They refused!
A few seconds later the Columbia Police G. Wise, badge number # 10855, arrived and began writing an arrest booking. I began telling him the truth and my wife showed up at the door in the back where they had taken me. Officer Wise went into a rage and began yelling at my wife, who had with her my two children. All she was asking (in a normal voice) was what was happening, an employee had showed her where I was. This outrageous officer threatened to have my wife arrested and take my two children to foster home. Because of my illness, I broke down in tears, and kept repeating I did nothing wrong. The store demanded that I be taken to jail, and the enraged officer took me to jail. My rights were never said, I was never told what I was being arrested for, I never saw a warrant until I arrived at the jail!<<
I agree that the officer should not have yelled at or made threats to your wife and children -- very unprofessional. I would make a formal complaint about that.
On the other hand, in most instances of this nature, store managers prefer NOT to make a scene and will talk to the cashier. (How do I know? I used to work in a retail store, and also know several others who do.) A false arrest would be very bad for their image. And yet, from the sound of your story, this was not the first time you'd done this.
>>Strangely, the police took me to another jail in a other county. My family called all night and the next day and could not locate me. They were told there is no one in custody by my name. I even asked the prison when will I go to the bonds court, and I was refused my request, and they even told me I had a five page rap sheet of all kinds of charges. (I have never been put in jail before)!<<
You would not have been jailed in another county unless you had outstanding warrants or pending charges in that other county. (Yes, I've worked with law enforcement -- that's how it works.) Your wife was likely not told that you were taken to the other county.
>>I still cannot understand why the store manager and police did not want to talk to the cashier. The items were scanned and paid for, and she was the one who scanned them and she knows what the truth is.<<
If the items were scanned, they'd be on the register receipt. You admitted you didn't check the receipt to see if they were; Ms. Miller scanned the tape and said they were not. How do you know with such certainty the items were scanned? Again, it appears this isn't the first time you've done this type of thing.
The store manager likely knew of you through the retail or police network ... and had likely known before now that you had eaten things without paying for them. I don't know what the other charges are in the other county, but they're probably similar to this.
I'm not surprised you went to jail ... and you'll likely be there for a while. Shoplifting and stealing are crimes, and one should pay for doing them ... no matter whether they're disabled or not.
#3 Update By Author
AUTHOR: Todd - Columbia (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, April 15, 2005
POSTED: Friday, April 15, 2005
Kathy,
First of all, I would need to ask if you have read all the details in my posting? I clearly stated that my family and even the people in the jail did not understand why I was there. Later they showed me some "BOGUS" 5-page rap sheet of some prior accused crimes! When I did get out, I checked with NCI (I am sure you may know what this is since you claim you use to work in law enforcement), and as I already knew MY RECORD IS CLEAN!!! The NCI report SHOWED NOTHING! I repeat MY RECORD WAS CLEAN!! So, you may ask why the BOGUS report? In my opinion I think there is some sort of major crime ring going on and WalMart causes good folks to go down like this so to cover-up that crime ring, I am researching this fact.
Second, before my disability, one of my prior contracts was working on US Military Security Development Systems, and the fact that I grew up in a Law Enforcement home, so I know a few things. There are good cops and there are very bad cops! The whole thing was wrong, and corporations are violating people's rights by their method of accusing, sentencing, and prosecuting people without even looking at the facts! This directly violates the BILL OF RIGHTS!!!! And I have already researched many cases where WalMart has done this to people! The worst case I can find is to a 60 old lady where WalMart accused her, put her in jail for 30 days, she died and the family won $111 MILLION! There are many cases I have found where WalMart has falsely accused people. So, to sit there at your computer and try to insult my knowledge and point your fingerer at me and suggest that WalMart is correct to arrest me, just encourages me to fight harder to correct the wrong and hopefully prevent WalMart from ever doing this again! I promised WalMart that they are making a mistake I did nothing wrong and I am a "Fighting Christian"! I will not stand down against this wrong that has been done to my family!
Third, I was told prior to that date that it was okay to consume food at the Deli and pay for the items at the front cashier as I exited (in which I did! Ms. Miller's Face Turned Bright Red when she saw I had paid for the items! You must have not read that part in my posting!)
Forth, even on that day, many people were they're eating food and later walking to the cashier to pay for their consumed food. I even viewed a few WalMart employees. So to suggest that I have walked out without paying is false! I said if there is any error it is on the cashier not me!
Fifth, Ms. Miller stated she had videotapes of me doing this, I demanded to see these videotapes and they could not produce these tapes! Why? Because the whole thing was BOGUS!! They just wanted to take down a honest Christian family man, that's why! I do have a documented illness, and I was all upset and could not speak clearly because I began going into an Anxiety Attack. WalMart did not care and I am sure would have loved to see me have a heart attack and die right there. But God called me to this fight, and fight I shall. I do not fight against flesh and blood, but rather spiritual!
Sixth, You state with your background that the manager must have a past rap sheet on me doing this before? Do you mean eating at the Deli and paying after I consumed? If so, yes, THAT IS WHAT THE DELI IS FOR, EATING!!! Use some common sense, or has the main news media robbed you of this simple brain function?
Seventh, If the manager was concerned if I was going to pay for the food, WHY DID HE/SHE NOT ASK ME IF I WAS GOING TO PAY FOR THE ITAMS BACK AT THE DELI? That would have been the honest and ISO Standard thing to do (I am sure you and others like you do not know what ISO are)! He/She, could have come up to me and said, Sir, you need to make sure you pay for that, our new policy is to pay before you eat. I would have replied that I am sorry; I was told in the past this was okay, and I would have gladly had him/her follow me to the cashier and make sure it was all paid for. And I would have made sure in the future to do so. I am no shoplifter! I am a TRUE CHRISTIAN, I have a higher power I report to, which clearly teaches not to steal!
These BOGUS and False Charges just shows me we are closer to Jesus returning, and everyone of these wicked people will have to answer to what they have done to me and others! This is wrong, you know it and I know it.
As I have stated before, there are many cases of this FALSE IMPRISIONMENT and FALSE ARREST, and I will not stand for it! You can trace my blood line all the way back to Daniel Boone, and even the Whatley's that battled in the War of Independence of 1776!
Just to give you a prophecy so you know I am a true man of God, this case will be dropped, either by WalMart, or a Jury in court; Victory is the Lords! God has told me so! So, be watching this case carefully, and you will see God's wonderful power at work! I know I did not do this accused crime, God knows my heart is pure, and others know I never did this crime.
Matter of fact, those wicked people could not understand how I was able to get out of jail so quickly! Do you know what I told them? "BLESSED BE TO GOD, HE WILL SET ME FREE!! GOD HAS ALLOWED YOU TO DO YOUR WICKEDNESS FOR 25+ HOURS, NOW HE WILL TURN HIS WRATH ON YOU! Interestingly, just a few days later, a major case has been opened against WalMart, where the top CEO had paid people, to discourage employees to not join a workers union. (So WalMart can continue making workers slave with low pay) They have even discovered that WalMart had a special bank account to pay these insiders. History states this is what organized crime leaders did to the labor workers back in the 1920-40's! I even discovered that three states are filing charges against WalMart making children work long hours! Sound like child-slave-labor to me. And if the time served me right, I could go into other research where WalMart has paid companies and even owns some in Asia and other countries with Child-slave-labor! God has called me for two things! 1. To stop shopping at WalMart because of the evil this company does to little children! 2. To discover all the problems and expose the truth!
Now it is so hypocritical for WalMart to falsely accuse me and others of stealing some little small item, when these PUNKS and CROOKS are stealing and forcing CHILDREN into SLAVE LABOR! SHAME ON THEM! SHAME! God's wrath on wicked people of the past will look like a walk in the park, to the wrath God will put on WalMart and other evil companies like them. I would heavily suggest you leave WalMart and repent and start a new career. There are honest security jobs out there. There is no reason to be employed by criminals, unless you are one yourself. For that I will pray for you, as I have done so for Ms. Miller. I feel very strongly we are in the Latter Times when I keep discovering these types of things going on.
So, don't tell me God is not real. Unless WalMart repents and makes things right; God will come down on them. The Bible is full of His judgments on the wicked! As the Bible states, He is the same yesterday, today and the days to come! I would like to conclude at this point, Psalms 7!
"O LORD my God, in thee do I put my trust: save me from all them that persecute me, and deliver me: Lest he tear my soul like a lion, rending it in pieces, while there is none to deliver. O LORD my God, If I have done this; if there be iniquity in my hands; If I have rewarded evil unto him that was at peace with me; (yea, I have delivered him that without cause is mine enemy:) Let the enemy persecute my soul, and take it; yea, let him tread down my life upon the earth, and lay mine honour in the dust. Selah. Arise, O LORD, in thine anger, lift up thyself because of the rage of mine enemies: and awake for me to the judgment that thou hast commanded. So shall the congregation of the people compass thee about: for their sakes therefore return thou on high. The LORD shall judge the people: judge me, O LORD, according to my righteousness, and according to mine integrity that is in me. Oh let the wickedness of the wicked come to an end; but establish the just: for the righteous God trieth the hearts and reins. My defence is of God, which saveth the upright in heart. God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day. If he turn not, he will whet his sword; he hath bent his bow, and made it ready. He hath also prepared for him the instruments of death; he ordaineth his arrows against the persecutors. Behold, he travaileth with iniquity, and hath conceived mischief, and brought forth falsehood. He made a pit, and digged it, and is fallen into the ditch which he made. His mischief shall return upon his own head, and his violent dealing shall come down upon his own pate. I will praise the LORD according to his righteousness: and will sing praise to the name of the LORD most high."
In Christ and Christ In Me,
#4 Individual Responds
AUTHOR: Todd - Columbia (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, April 15, 2005
POSTED: Friday, April 15, 2005
Holy Greetings Jim,
I am discovering there are more and more people like you and me that have fell prey to this problem. If anything, the November 2004 elections proved that we Christians out number those that wish to do evil in this country, and we Christians are beginning to take stands!
The courts are against our freedom and this has gone on long enough, we Christians our beginning to take back our legal system. The case against the Ten Commandments is a major factor, as well as the "In God We Trust" in our schools.
I have lived long enough to sample both school systems, with God's prayer in the schools and the other with no prayer in the schools. And facts show that whenever the prayer was taken out, we have children killing children.
I agree about Sam Walton, if he was still alive I know I could have sent him a letter and he would have FIRED those jokers in that Wal-Mart. My brother knew of Sam Walton, because they were in the same aero club! I know of Sam Walton from my brother mostly and know he was very respectful and always put the customer first, not greed! He would have looked at my case and knew it was a setup by Wal-Mart to distort the facts and make it look like I did something wrong. When in fact I never did anything wrong. He would have taken them down and tried his best to comfort me as a good customer in which I am. It does look like a major lawsuit will be coming down the tubes against Wal-Mart. There is a very good website that highlights many, many wrongdoings by Wal-Mart, so it is not just me stating this. There is something very wrong with Wal-Marts today.
Check out this website: http://www.wal-martlitigation.com/index.html?
I suspect some kind of Wal-Mart crime ring with these security guards and police, and them going around and accusing people, allows them to do a write-off on the accounts to blame those people. When in fact it is those security guards all along. My father worked on a big case some years back with similar elements like this. You know the old saying, "History will repeat itself", or maybe what the Bible states, "Nothing New Under The Sun".
Anyway, thank you for your honorable posting, it comforted me, and I know God will Bless you for it. The most powerful thing we have today is our voice and we need to blow the trumpet to everyone and inform everyone of the wrongdoing going on at Wal-Mart.
God Will Give Us Victory.
#5 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Kathy - Phoenix (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, April 15, 2005
POSTED: Friday, April 15, 2005
Todd:
Conspiracy theories are all well and good -- personally, I doubt WalMart has a gigantic plan to take down Christian men and women.
Also, I never said the store manager had a past rap sheet on you (of any kind). I'm just surprised the manager did not offer to go with your side of the story ... that is, if it was a first-time offense.
And I did read your part about Ms. Miller scanning the register tape. My question is, how do YOU know the items were on there? You didn't check the register tape. She did - and said they weren't there. That doesn't sound like a conspiracy to me ... it sounds like a legal prosecution for theft or shoplifting. (And, as to why she didn't suggest you pay for these items in the deli section -- why would she? Was she physically present when you ate the food? Was she following you around the store? I doubt it.)
In closing, you have every right to say and believe what you wish. However, please take THESE words to heart:
Matthew 6:6-7
But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words."
Ecclesiastes 5:2
Do not be quick with your mouth, do not be hasty in your heart to utter anything before God. God is in heaven and you are on earth, so let your words be few."
#6 Individual Responds
AUTHOR: Todd - Columbia (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, April 16, 2005
POSTED: Saturday, April 16, 2005
Kathy,
Even satan knows the scriptures well and uses them to trap people into the cult... A great book on this topic is written by Rebecca Brown MD, "He Came To Set The Captives Free"! and "Prepare for War!,
I have done nothing wrong, I am a true Christian, it does not really matter if you want to know the truth or not. But the truth still stands and God will set me free! I have done Biblical and Historical Research for www.holypath.com for many years! I even have a 3' x 3' Ten Commandment Tablet in my front yard which is a centerpiece for my garden. I have had it there for three years! I even have a small copy of the Ten Commandments on every doorpost as described in DEUT!
So, don't try to twist scripture back on me to try and confuse me that I have done a crime! I have done NO CRIME! You can side with the GOATS if you want to. The TRUTH still remands and will be know, which will set me free. Which brings a question, why are you so much on the side of Wal-Mart, and taking there side and not even reading my words that point to the facts. Instead you are trying to add something to my words that is not there.
I know your spirit is shaken up because you do not comprehend that a company like Wal-Mart can do something to a innocent man. Well, then explain all these court cases I am discovered where Wal-Mart has lost close to a BILLION dollars in FALSE IMPRISIONMENT! Explain that Sherlock.
Here are some scriptures that assist your misunderstanding.
"Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness. Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity. Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous" (Matthew 23:27-29).
"My son, if thou wilt receive my words, and hide my commandments with thee; So that thou incline thine ear unto wisdom, and apply thine heart to understanding; Yea, if thou criest after knowledge, and liftest up thy voice for understanding; If thou seekest her as silver, and searchest for her as for hid treasures; 5 Then shalt thou understand the fear of the LORD, and find the knowledge of God" (Proverbs 2:1-6).
"He keepeth the paths of judgment, and preserveth the way of his saints. Then shalt thou understand righteousness, and judgment, and equity; yea, every good path" (Proverbs 2:8-9).
For your inforation, Ms. Miller did follow me around, but I just thought she was some kind of child kidnaper. Second, when I said she scaned, I meant she read over the reciept, she NEVER went to the cashier, and REFUSED to do so. Later I discovered that I did pay for the items and is found on the reciept!
Third, I have not done anything wrong at Wal-Mart. So, as you said, this is a conspiricy against true Christian. Unless you are someone who goes one side at times and then to the other side depending on the situation. The evil one is real and uses wicked people to try and destroy good Christian folks! That's a fact. The Bible is very clear on this subject.
For conclusion, Almost ALL of the prophets, and even JESUS himself was arrested FALSELY! So, for you to keep trying to take Wal-Mart's side and say that I must have some past-rap-record and that justifies them to arrest me. YOU ARE WRONG!!! My God, which is the author of truth and justice, knows I did nothing wrong and will come down hard on these wicked people. The JURY will see the facts, not some one sided wicked people.
Even Paul wrote about the coppersmith that had him falsely arrested, and God brought Paul through EVERYTIME and PUNISHED those wicked people. That is a FACT! I know what happen, I was there. I pray you understand. I think you just have a problem I am publishing these evil things going on in these big stores, and since you are a part of it, just maybe the Holy Spirit is calling you to get out.
We only have a short time before the LORD RETURNS, and then it is to late. Don't be lied to, there is no SECRET RAPTURE thing, the LOUDEST scripture is CHRIST RETURNING. Earthquakes, Loud Trumpets, to name a few, does not sound like a quiet disappearing event to me. There is a reason why God brought me to this fight, maybe its just for you to read my words and seek out the truth of this big problem and make a change. Ever think about that?
In Christ and Christ In Me...
#7 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Matthew - Hastings (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, April 16, 2005
POSTED: Saturday, April 16, 2005
Surely a man of God knows "but other people did it" is not a valid excuse. Pay for your food and then eat it and you will never find yourself in this situation again.
You decided to bypass the commen sense rule of paying for your food before eating it. You admit you did wrong. Your justification that others were breaking the same rule does not get you out of trouble. You basically tell us you broke the rules and now you want us to feel sorry for you? Couldn't even you admit that the chances of this happening to you would have been less then one percent if you had just paid for your food before you and your children consumed it?
Then the part about you going to jail has me wondering just how well you behaved yourself when you found yourself in this situation. You must have caused an awful commotion to he hauled off to jail for stealing 10-20 dollars worth of food. Next time, maybe you will behave yourself instead of breaking down in tears and screaming at people. (or you just made this whole part up to make us feel sorry for you).
I'm done. I want to end with the suggestion that you leave God out of this. What does God have to do with you breaking the rules? Why do you wish the end of the world? You are confused about this stuff. God doesn't want people hating others or wishing the destruction of the world.
#8 Employee
AUTHOR: C - Quakertown (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, April 16, 2005
POSTED: Saturday, April 16, 2005
Todd,
You are mistaken if you believe Wal-mart cares in the slightest about your faith. Wal-mart employees are generally interested in one thing: making a buck. This goes from the cashier (who is in it for her paycheck) to the bigwigs (who are in it to keep the company running and secure their place in the corporate world).
I am an employee of Wal-mart and I am a Christian. These are not totally incompatible things. I'm in college and I need a job - incidentally I work at Wal-mart because it pays decently (in my area) and I shop there because it's cheap.
I do not see why the fuss was made if you are indeed as honest as you claim to be. Cashiers make mistakes - most of the time this type of conflict is resolved with an apology and a separate transaction in which the missing items are rung up. Wal-mart does not call the police at the drop of a hat.
It doesn't add up to me that you were so concerned that you asked the cashier twice if she had rung up the items, yet you didn't look at the receipt yourself - which should have required even less energy!
>>>> I was shocked and looked at the receipt and discovered the items I paid for (over $150!). Her face turned bright red and she left the room, she returned with items from a trashcan. She asked me if these items were mine. <<<<
Why were you shocked? The cashier must have told you the price of the sale when you paid for it. Also, you did not mention whether you saw the items in question on the receipt or not. If they were not on your receipt, they were not paid for. If you gave the cashier the items and they did not show up on the tape, she made a mistake which could have been solved in five minutes, sans a police visit.
Was this trashcan located at the register where you paid for your items? It does not make sense that security would dig up items out of the trashcan in the presence of the cashier without asking a few questions.
>>>>> She demanded I sign some kind of a form. <<<<<
You should never, ever sign any kind of form without reading and understanding it completely.
>>>>>(At this point I usually check it myself, but my son was complaining that he needed to go to the restroom and I wanted to get back home because a bad thunderstorm was coming, so I trusted the cashier and went on to exit the store).<<<<<
This seems like a very poor excuse. If you have spent enough time to eat and shop for $150 worth of merchandise, you have had plenty of time to take your son to the restroom IN THE STORE. If he can wait long enough for you to drive home, he can wait long enough for you to read the receipt!
I agree with Kathy in that it is unthinkable that a store manager would contact the police before questioning the cashier involved.
I also find that your response to Kathy is overly emotional and belligerent. Apparently the best you can do in asserting your innocence is vehemently repeating the fact that you are a Christian. It does not seem to me that belittling another's intelligence and making wild accusations about the "hidden agenda" of an impersonal retail establishment are properly Christian behaviors.
>>>>> Third, I was told prior to that date that it was okay to consume food at the Deli and pay for the items at the front cashier as I exited (in which I did! Ms. Miller's Face Turned Bright Red when she saw I had paid for the items! You must have not read that part in my posting!) <<<<
Actually you omitted the part about Ms. Miller seeing that you had paid for the FOOD items. You merely mentioned the total cost of your order.
>>>>> They just wanted to take down a honest Christian family man, that's why! I do have a documented illness, and I was all upset and could not speak clearly because I began going into an Anxiety Attack. WalMart did not care and I am sure would have loved to see me have a heart attack and die right there. But God called me to this fight, and fight I shall. I do not fight against flesh and blood, but rather spiritual! <<<<<
It is nothing short of absurd to think that Wal-mart, as an entity, cares about your faith or your illness. Wal-mart is made up of millions of different people - some Christian, others not. I doubt that, unless you have a history of ill will with a specific employee of the store, anyone there wanted to see you in any condition other than in your car driving home with a legitimate receipt.
>>>> You can trace my blood line all the way back to Daniel Boone, and even the Whatley's that battled in the War of Independence of 1776! <<<<
This is completely irrelevant. Wal-mart does not know or care about your bloodline.
>>>> So, don't try to twist scripture back on me to try and confuse me that I have done a crime! I have done NO CRIME! You can side with the GOATS if you want to. The TRUTH still remands and will be know, which will set me free. Which brings a question, why are you so much on the side of Wal-Mart, and taking there side and not even reading my words that point to the facts. Instead you are trying to add something to my words that is not there. <<<<
No one is trying to confuse you or assert that you have done a crime - only to understand how rational businesspeople (as we assume store managers are required to be) could be led to making a false accusation without any investigation into the incident.
>>>> For your inforation, Ms. Miller did follow me around, but I just thought she was some kind of child kidnaper. <<<<
This speaks volumes. Loss prevention employees do not single out honest-looking individuals and follow them around. Their job is to identify and prosecute the dishonest ones. Furthermore, if you really thought she was a pedophile... why did you not confront her, or have an employee contact security about her?
>>>> For conclusion, Almost ALL of the prophets, and even JESUS himself was arrested FALSELY! <<<<
And Jesus responded quite differently. He "opened not his mouth" in the face of injustice, but he forgave even the ones who crucified him. Jesus was "full of grace," but you are "full of wrath."
One more thing...
>>>> In my opinion I think there is some sort of major crime ring going on and WalMart causes good folks to go down like this so to cover-up that crime ring, I am researching this fact. <<<<
It seems highly improbable that prosecuting a person for eating unpaid-for deli products would remotely have anything to do with a crime ring. And I imagine not many mafia-types are putting in time at Wal-mart.
There are plenty of conspiracies in the world; please devote your energy towards factual rather than perceived injustice.
#9 Consumer Suggestion
AUTHOR: Bill - Fort Pierce (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, April 16, 2005
POSTED: Saturday, April 16, 2005
Todd:
I am sorry to hear how Walmart treated you, but what I don't understand is why, when you stated many negatives about them, that you knew before this incident, you even shop there. I don't really think they are aiming this at you for your christianity. They seem to treat many people the same way-christian or not.
My solution is to just stop spending your money there. I haven't been in a Walmart in 5 or 6 years. I made a concious decision not to shop there, mostly because of how they do business.
If more of us would talk with our dollars, maybe they would stop treating customers like crap.
I wish you luck with your lawsuit and hope you don't stop until they admit they were wrong.
#10 Individual Responds
AUTHOR: Todd - Columbia (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, April 16, 2005
POSTED: Saturday, April 16, 2005
Oh Give Me A Break!!! YOU: Wal-Mart Lovers! You would be agreeing with me if you were not being paid by Wal-Mart!
First of all, God is all in my life and I cannot leave Him out. I talk about Him all the time, what can I say, I LOVE Him and His Words and hold them dear to me. If you do not like what I write, THEN DO NOT READ IT, MUCH LESS RESPOND TO MY POSTING!! Something I say must be truth and checks your spirit to respond. The last time I looked we are a country for FREEDOM OF SPEACH!
Second, your response posting are way off of what I was saying, you even took out sections of my postings and caused it to be misread. So, you Wal-Mart lovers are trying to tell me that Wal-Mart was correct that they had a reason to arrest me? Then explain the BILLION dollars worth of SETTLED lawsuits of FALSE IMPRINSONMENTS AND ARREST against Wal-Mart over the past few years?
If the mighty Wal-Mart was such a clean and justice corporation that never does anything wrong, then explain that? Are you trying to say that all those courts thought wrongly of Wal-Mart and they did not read the facts that Wal-Mart did wrongdoing? If so, you are “blind leading the blind”! And let me clear something else up. You must not read the scriptures correctly, JESUS made PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENTS all the time against the PRIEST and others! He did not go around and quietly talk to people; He went to the very center of the town and told it like it was. All the wrongdoing going on and pointed the finger at those wick people. That's what started those wicked people to kill him. And when Jesus raised the dead man, they knew He would soon get everyone to hear his message and they would loose the POWER TO BLIND THE PEOPLE! (Sounds just what Wal-Mart is trying to do, SILENCE THOSE WHO SPEAK THE TRUTH!)
If I am not speaking the truth, then Wal-Mart has nothing to worry about. But, if I speak the truth, why did Wal-Mart try to slam me down so hard! I did nothing wrong and they knew it. Plus, the fact these people are stealing from people all the time! I was told today how these managers at this store are “cooking the books” on employee hours. Not to mention the information about the “sex-puppies” that the managers hire. Since I have started researching and interviewing people, I am discovering all kinds of criminal things going on at Wal-Mart. I also found out that Wal-Mart dislikes a company that had products in their stores, and the mangers ordered employees to destroy $80,000 worth of this man's products! This man filed a major lawsuit against Wal-Mart over this, and from my understanding it is still in court. Do I need to continue? Do you still think Wal-Mart is a lovable, just, and happy place?
I will tell you, because of this, my entire family has stop shopping at Wal-Mart, they have told me that this will hurt Wal-Mart monthly sales from several stores in various towns and cities, close to $20,000 A MONTH! In my family home of four, I was spending about $400 per month just on food. I spent about an extra $200 on other items. That is $600 that I can GUARANTEE Wal-Mart will NEVER EVER see FROM ME AGAIN!!! And my family tree is very close and we all “HATE WRONGDOERS”, and Wal-Mart has done me WRONG! So my family has BOYCOTTED Wal-Mart from our shopping list. Most likely we will go to Publix, where I know some of the managers personally from Christian talks! And my friend said that they would have never treated anyone or me like that! They are very customer service, and if they even thought someone had not paid for consumed food, they would have stopped them and ask them to make sure to pay. People sometimes FORGET to pay, and my illness is proven to do that at times! Although I PAID! The point is, you have good-minded people that care and try to workout the problem, and you have WICKED-MINDED people like Wal-Mart that care not the trouble they cause people, and try to destroy their lives!
I'll repeat my situation in the simplest way I can so you Wal-Mart lovers understand.
"I was told many times that I can eat food at the deli and pay at the cashier afterwards. I PAID FOR MY FOOD!!! The "rent-a-cop" brain-dead Ms. Miller, stated that I did not pay. On the receipt it showed that I did pay! She then said I had eaten more than I paid for and went and dug into some trashcan from where, I do not know. But the empty containers I used were given to the cashier to throw away (after she scanned them)(If she did not scan all of them, that is her fault)(But she told me twice she scanned them and I paid for them)! I was very upset at the whole thing, I never screamed or caused a fuss. It was the POLICE officer, G. Wise that was yelling, not me! I told Ms. Miller if the cashier did not scan everything, I would be willing to pay for any mistake that the cashier made (thinking to help out the cashier in case she did not scan everything). But if you read the receipt I PAID FOR EVERYTHING!!! And they hauled me to ANOTHER county and said I had a 5-page-rap sheet! I got out the next day after my family made a fuss. The next day I did a COMPLETE BACKGROUND of myself and it showed NOTHING!!!" So, explain why I was slammed to another county? Even my friends that are Police officers cannot understand this! While I was in jail they showed me this BOGUS 5-page-rap-sheet, but would not give me a copy! The next day, I went to the top dog, and demanded the “Freedom Of Information Act” to give me that copy! (Now No One Can Find Those BOGUS rap sheets!) (Just like Wal-Mart cannot show me these BOGUS VIDEOTAPES!)
Third, All of this leads me to believe something is very wrong here. The postings back and forth between Kathy, and me I was saying that satan will use WICKED people to do wrong to TRUE CHRISTIAN to cause them to be destroyed. If you read the BIBLE you will discover this fact.
Forth, A proper manager would have seen that I never did this and just offered a truce. Even one Police officer which is a friend of mine, (I will not say his name, because I will use him as a witness to the Wal-Mart problems), told me that Wal-Mart did the same thing, from the same store, to a friend of hers! My friend also told me, after reading over the $150 receipt that the officer that went ahead and arrested me should be disciplined. This police officer that arrested me, never wanted to listen to my story, as soon as he walked in, he had most of the BOOKING arrest filled out, plus he showed up a few minutes after they brought me to the back. And the fact this officer began treating my wife and CHILDREN just prove the fact something is very wrong here! So, this Wal-Mart planned to take me down from the very beginning. I can assure you, I will research all of this down and trumpet blast the truth!
This was wrong, it has been done in the past by Wal-Mart, it is a proven fact that Wal-Mart is doing this to many people in this country. (God has called me and others TO EXPOSE THE WRONGDOINGS of Wal-Mart, to HELP those that cannot HELP themselves!) So, you Wal-Mart lovers go ahead and keep trying to accuse me and hate me, and try to use my words against me, the fact still remains, I did nothing wrong, I am a true Christian, and it does not matter if you want to believe me or not. God is in control of this, and the TRUTH WILL SET ME FREE!
God has already told me what is going to happen. He knows my heart and knows what happen. All you Wal-Mart lovers are trying to do is try to cover up the fact that Wal-Mart messed up and never does anything wrong. Matter of fact I just interviewed two Wal-Mart employees that may become witnesses to support the wrongs Wal-Mart is doing.
Lastly, you Wal-Mart lovers that try to shut me up by throwing Christ back at me, will not work. Even when Jesus was alive the priest tried to do the same thing to Him, and by the grace of God, He never shut up! Matter of fact, even Paul was told the same thing. I will continue to use my LORD's words, I will continue to post this problem of Wal-Mart, and I have just got started. I have already emailed many of my military friends and other worldwide friends. The seeds are being planted, and the truth will grow! Noone will stop the truth!
Another thing, if Wal-Mart is such a “GOOD-COMPANY” why are they part of the group of companies trying to shut down this website? If the postings on this site are not speaking the truth, then why is the website trying to be shut down? Hmmm?
The signs are here that the time is very short for Jesus to return, you have a third of the world bowing down to a dead man that clams he is Christ on earth, and he is the one to forgive your sins if you pray ten times to a female. You have major earthquakes all over the place. You have strange weather conditions that have the most experienced scientist scratching their heads. You have greedy people like Wal-Mart slaving children, falsely accusing people and destroying their lives for BOGUS $11!, You have priest molesting children. You have children killing children and even parents! You have parents killing children. You have a third of the people running from one place to another place claiming they talk to a vision of a female of Christ. You have horror story after horror story of people dieing of starvation, when there is more food being produced and THROWN AWAY everyday! Not to mention we have had more sun and moon ellipses than ever in recorded history. There is all kinds of new discoveries and things happening in space like never before. So, if some of you claim to be a Christian and then tell me I am just making all this up? You are very BLIND!
Evil is real! It is in your face. I agree with Paul, "daily I do not fight against flesh and blood, I fight against the powers of darkness in the spirit"! That is what I was talking about and why I talk about God for He is my LIFE! I do not care what they try to do to my flesh and blood! My LORD will protect me and not allow them to have it, He and ONLY He can allow then attacking me, and if I am just with Him, He will not allow them to do anything to me. And I am Just with Him, He brought me to this fight for a reason, and as I told Wal-Mart, I will stand and FIGHT!
And those of you that want to learn of other corporations violating peoples rights, go to the website www.ahrc.com This is about Homeowners Associations! I am fighting them too; they HATE my Ten Commandments in my front yard.
In Christ and Christ In Me,
Todd
#11 Update By Author
AUTHOR: Todd - Columbia (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, April 16, 2005
POSTED: Saturday, April 16, 2005
Hi Bill,
Thanks for your caring posting. If anyone that is not being paid by Wal-Mart, and look at my case, as well as others, they will see the truth.
To answer you, I never knew Wal-Mart was like this, until they did the wrong to me like they did. I can promise you, I will NEVER EVER take my $600 a month to them again. And I have already notified other family tree member that have now done a "Family-Boycott" of Wal-Mart. This is about a total of $20,000 a month that will not be spent at Wal-Mart stores EVER AGAIN. Unless Wal-Mart REPENTS and tries to fix the problem. But you know as well as I, that "dark-hearted and uncaring" people will never repent! That was one of the things Jesus cried about, that many did not repent. But many do, and that is what this fight is all about, to help those that are pure to see the light, repent and do the right thing.
I agree, we good people, even if you are not a Christian, you must have some goodness in you, are you would not be trying to do the right thing. Wicked people do only evil, they never try to do the right thing, because they are cold-blooded!
Anyway, I just wanted to answer you, that I never knew of the problems of Wal-Mart until I had this done to me. I was one of the blind ones to. The sad part about me is I saw one of the child-slave camps in Asia, but did not think there was a connection, until this happen and it was like an "eye-open-wide"! Oh, how sad it is. If anything, my trumpet blowing stops the child-abuse! I do not care about my life, I am willing to lay it down for Christ, so those little children will go free! From now on, I will make sure the product I purchase are child-slave-safe!
#12 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Stacey - Dallas (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, April 16, 2005
POSTED: Saturday, April 16, 2005
Your response was well thought out and very well put
Leave God out of this situation and your religion
Stick to the facts!
#13 Individual Responds
AUTHOR: Todd - Columbia (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, April 17, 2005
POSTED: Sunday, April 17, 2005
Hi Stacy,
That is the problem with this country; some people want to leave God out of everything. I cannot and will not leave Him out. God is everywhere in our country. Our country was formed on the basis of God. You have the freedom to worship Him or a stick in the mud. But to try and cause me to erase these facts, I will never do. This whole fight is about Him! If you do not understand this, then you may not ever.
You cannot stop me from preaching the truth and I will continue. I know Wal-Mart singled me out because I was a Christian family man. I have seen some people get enraged when they see a family man with his children and allow his wife the break to go shop around. And I could see the anger in Ms. Miller's eyes because of this. Come on, most of you Wal-Mart lovers can not understand and have even tried to write that I must have done things in the past why Wal-Mart did this to me.
I HAVE NEVER DONE ANYTHING WRONG AT WAL-MART! Then explain what other reason why Wal-Mart has done this to me then? I am not a grammar or English expert, I may not say the proper words, and my illness can cause me not to say the right words at times, but I do the best I can and just tell the truth. If you cannot handle the truth, then you never will. I will not leave God out, this is my life and what Wal-Mart has done has God all around it. If your spirit is checked, then maybe you need to build your relationship with Him.
#14 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Robert - Rochester (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, April 17, 2005
POSTED: Sunday, April 17, 2005
Walmart is a large satan-filled organization that is out to get a "devout Christian man" because they didnt see him pay for food he ate but swears he paid for? We know he is devout becuase he can spout scripture and can pray up a storm.. and besides, he bought $60 worth of Biblical Research books.
Now we also find out that his "homeowners" association must also be anti-Christian because they won't allow him to have the Ten Commandments in his front yard - even though ordinances he agreed to when he became part of the association - do not allow it. In other words, laws and ordinances are for everyone else but him because he is so "devout."
Well, I figured out what his disability is .. He's a wacko right-wing religeous nut who won't be happy until we have our our own little theocracy here in America with our own Christian Ayatolla running the show ..
Lord protect us from these nutcases..
#15 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Mike - Radford (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, April 17, 2005
POSTED: Sunday, April 17, 2005
Todd, please listen to Matthew and Stacey. What Matthew said was briliant.
When you get to court, your God and Jesus and family legacy and grand conspiracy stuff won't fly. It's not because the judge is against God and Jesus, but because when he's up on the bench for you, he's interested only in exactly WHAT HAPPENED AT WAL-MART. Your postings have not been very clear in this area.
You need to prepare a proper legal "secular" defence. An attorney would be very helpful to you now. An attorney would know how to use the court to get copies of the videotapes, receipts, and other evidence Wal-Mart may be planning to use against you. Also you may need witnesses on your side, such as the employee(s) who told you it was OK to eat first and pay later. Even if you did eat the food and not pay for it, there are several valid defenses you could use. You do not want to have a criminal conviction on your record.
By the way I'm 2 years "clean" of Wal-Mart abuse and dependency (i.e. no longer shop there). I'm certainly not being paid by them.
#16 Ex-Employee
AUTHOR: E - Victorville (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, April 17, 2005
POSTED: Sunday, April 17, 2005
TODD,
I feel for you. I'm from the south and I know people are more trust worthy there. SO they probably did tell you that you could take your bar codes to the front registers.
I also was a CSM (mgr)about 13 years ago at Wal-mart. I worked there abuot 6 months until I was like "HECK WITH THIS!"
I had two Female bosses that tried to be-little me every chance they could. I also had a Store Assistant Mgr. tell me everyday about all the sexy dreams he was having about me.
I know about the cameras they have.. THEY SPY ON THERE EMPLOYEES WITH THEM! I got demoted because I said to another employee in private (I thought) That the Store Manager was a Pervert.
Next thing I know someone told me, "You know they herd you say that" I luckily found a job at high end Department store a month later. Problem was my first day that I was suppose to go to work at my new job, I stopped by Wal-mart to pick up my check. They said, Yeah, we have it, Be right back.. . So waited, and waited, looked at watch.. I thought to my self, somethings not right.. SO I went to the front of the store.. there was the lady that said, I'LL be right back, and three store Managers..
THEY WERE TRYING TO PAY ME BACK FOR QUITING! They wanted me to be late.. See how they are??
It's like a Click in High School!
SO to this day, Unless someone gives me a gift card. . I go to TARGET!
SUPER-WALMART STAY OUT OF CALIFORNIA! I LIKE VONS!
#17 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Stacey - Dallas (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, April 17, 2005
POSTED: Sunday, April 17, 2005
My spirituality is in in check and what I depend on every day
I am not misinformed nor "stupid" (my words not yours)
I only state that when it is a complaint against a certain company or individual that the complaint is just that - a COMPLAINT!
I have the right as anyone does here to voice my opinion - That is the great thing about being an AMERICAN CITIZEN!
I am sorry that you had to suffer at the hands of Wal-Mart and I am not judging because of situation
I am done with this
Say a prayer for me when I get to Iraq
#18 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Cynthia - Carol Stream (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, April 18, 2005
POSTED: Monday, April 18, 2005
Todd, I stand behind your decision to fight Walmart on this. I obviously wasn't there, but I have seen injustice before. My husband has been the music director of our Christian church since he was 16-years-old. Once, he was driving his new Camaro, and was pulled over by a police officer. The officer pulled him out, asked him how "a dirty Mexican like you can afford a car like this", and beat him up. (It was in the middle of the night on an empty street.) It turns out that another of his hispanic friends was beat up by the same racist officer. They went to the police station, but no one believed them. It makes no sense that an officer of the law would do something so horrible, right? Well, it happens.
Todd, I personally don't think they knew you were Christian (unless you were being very obvious about it), and I know from experience that South Carolina is a very Christian state. But I do think that they might have targeted you because they thought you had money. What good is it to Walmart to prosecute a thief that they know is poor? Walmart wouldn't be able to squeeze any money out of them. But they might have thought they could get money out of you, since you shop there all the time, and your wife was buying stuff, and you were eating at the deli. Maybe they thought they could sue you in the future for a whole lot of money. Just a thought.
Like I said, sometimes people do stuff that is just really hard to believe until it happens to you, and then you can see for yourself. And I believe that you had no idea that eating before paying was wrong. My mom did that when I was a little girl...if I was crying in the store, she would open a box of cookies and give me some, but she would always pay for it, and the cashiers always said it was fine. Unfortunately, things have changed but not everyone is aware of that.
Some dishonest people have made things harder for everyone. I also do believe that it is near the end of times, and Todd, you need to fight for your right to keep the 10 commandments in your front yard. That is your property and your right.
The one thing I don't agree with is your comment about your geneology. What does where your blood came from have to do with anything? Does being white make you a more honest, better person? Hey, the first white people in the America (your ancestors) were brutal murderers and rapists. They killed the Native Americans and stole their land. So don't bring race or geneology into this. When it comes to skin color, you are no better than anyone else.
Well, that's all I have to say...but FIGHT ON! I know you will win this battle. I will pray for you.
#19 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Ken - Lexington (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, April 18, 2005
POSTED: Monday, April 18, 2005
I cannot believe they arrested you. I mean come on, a Devout Christian. Everyone knows that Christians do not commit crimes. And accusing a Devout Christian of doing something like this is almost as blasphemous as accusing a Priest of child molestation.......! How preposterous!!! ******** You know, I have been guilty of eating things before I paid for them. Many times I have opened a Pepsi and drank it while I was shopping. The only difference is that I actually paid for it when I checked out. Now, if you didn't pay for what you ate, then you are guilty. Period. No one cares if you are a Devout Christian or not. According to your receipt, YOU DID NOT PAY FOR IT.... That is stealing and Devout Christians do not get special treatment when it comes to Theft.... That is what this country is based on. It is not Wal Mart's responsibility to follow you around and keep track of what you eat while you are in there store, nor is it their responsibility to make sure you pay for it. You should have made sure you paid for it......NO EXCUSES !!!!! So, if you did indeed eat the food and did not pay for it......then it is your fault.... Now quit crying and praying about it. If God wanted you to not be in this trouble, then he would have made sure you paid for it.... so praying about this will not change your situation. In fact, while you are praying about it, why don't you pray for some "Smarts". You did not pay for the food and you got caught. Now, don't get me wrong. I'm not saying you did it on purpose, but that does not excuse your failure to pay. If you do the crime, you have to pay the time!!!!!! Get over your holey self!!!
#20 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: John 3:16 - Atlanta (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, April 18, 2005
POSTED: Monday, April 18, 2005
Todd, its time to "turn the other cheek". Your religious ranting will not save you. You are a known criminal in 3 states. You do not even have a real "disability" but are faking to scam the insurance company. You don't want to see the tapes from the store because they show you and your family stealing food and MORE. You have been for months and just got caught. Wal-Mart is evil but a necessary evil. You on the other hand are just a crook hiding behind the bible. Here's some advice: stay out of Wal-Mart and forget the bible-thumper act or you will continue to experience HELL ON EARTH!!!
#21 Update By Author
AUTHOR: Todd - Columbia (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, April 18, 2005
POSTED: Monday, April 18, 2005
Hi Folks!
It is interesting the two sides of responses to my posting. One side which knows of the problems with Wal-Mart and is supportive. While the other side aggressively attacks my posting with great anger.
I would think that the supportive side is the normal folks that know the truth. The other side is Wal-Mart lovers, that most likely are employed by Wal-Mart and our the same group doing this to so many people. For this group, there is nothing I can say, I have told the truth and tried my best to express what happen, and they refuse to listen and try to nail me on a cross that I must be in the wrong. Shame on you, for you are so bias and blind to the truth!
The supportive group is normal folks just trying to live and have been abused in one way or another by the evil hand of Wal-Mart. For you I am glad to see that I am not the only one that has been attacked by this evil corporation. You may not agree with my Christian statements and that is your right. But at least we are trying to come together and expose this evil corporation. I wonder if Wal-Mart is relate or connected to Seaboard Corporation is some way? If anyone knows this please let me know.
I know God will give me victory; he has already started working in that area. I did nothing wrong and I can prove it! Everyday more witnesses are coming to me. I just discovered one today that was actual a customer at the time I was there and saw me give the Price Bar Codes to the cashier and PAY!!! Now this does not look to good for Wal-Mart! This customer also saw Wal-Mart drag me off to the back! And I have hired an attorney; I hired one the very first moment Wal-Mart did this evil to me. My honor will be restored and I will fight as hard as I can to expose this evil. This is wrong and all those Wal-Mart lovers know it is wrong.
Why did Wal-Mart take me out the back door and not the front? Why was I not shown these bogus videos? Why did Wal-Mart not want to talk to the cashier? Why did Wal-Mart not want to look at the receipt? Many questionable actions by Wal-Mart leads to a major problem.
The Lord will punish them for their evil, that's a fact!
#22 Employee
AUTHOR: C - Quakertown (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, April 18, 2005
POSTED: Monday, April 18, 2005
Todd,
Indeed, Wal-mart is going to seem like an evil rampaging machine fueled with the blood of innocent children... because you are looking for scandals.
There is no perfect, family-oriented, saintly business out there - simply because the nature of business is to make money. It's a cutthroat world, and no retail chain employing MILLIONS of people is exempt from getting a bad egg here and there. One bad egg will cause a bigger stir than 500 good employees, because the media thrives on slinging mud. When was the last time you turned on the news to hear about random acts of kindness? Unfortunately, the crap gets all the publicity.
The only company that still looks good is the one you don't know that well.
#23 Update By Author
AUTHOR: Todd - Columbia (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, April 18, 2005
POSTED: Monday, April 18, 2005
1. A young family went to their weekly Wal-Mart's trip. ($600 per month spending)
2. The father and children ate in the deli and took the price and empty containers with them, (Must have been alright, or Wal-Mart would have had them pay for the food before they HANDED it to them and they ate it.)(This Wal-Mart has two types of Deli's!)(One that you pay before eating, the other you can eat before paying!) (Very Important Fact!)
3. "If" the cashier and or father had overlooked any item(s). ((No intent to steal)) - it was just overlooked. And the father was "willing" to pay for any overlooked item(s), if there was ANY. (I offered this at the very beginning!)(The Receipt Shows I PAID for EVERYTHING)
4. There could always be overlooked items made - so is the Customer always wrong? It seems to be the practice now? What happened to the basic principle of good sound business? We loose many customers over this, or give this customer the benefit of the doubt and let him pay for any overlooked items if there was any?
5. Then traumatize the young wife and children.
6. And try to destroy a family man's life over a bogus claim of $11! When in fact I offered to pay for any items claimed that I might have overlooked!
WHY???? What has happened to the basic customer service that Sam Walton put into place that built this company? Wal-Mart is accusing me of $12! (Which went up from what they first told me $11) So, my life is worth only a bogus $12! And the sad fact is I was willing to pay for that bogus $12 ($11) in case I did overlook that item! Many people I talk to cannot understand that. The scary thing is, that people I talked to in jail could not understand this. (And they are confessed criminals!) And many of these criminals said they have family and friends that work at this Wal-Mart!! What is wrong with this picture!
Okay, most of you know, I am a Christian, and I have to respond with some Christian Bible preaching. This event just adds more facts that Jesus is on His return very soon. I do pray for Ms. Miller and others. I do not hate them; I do hate the evil that they did to others and me. But it is very heart breaking that people have come to this low point, to destroy someone over such little things as $12 ($11), and even bogus at that.
In Christ and Christ In Me,
#24 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Kathy - Phoenix (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, April 18, 2005
POSTED: Monday, April 18, 2005
Todd:
I am not full of anger at you or your story ... nor do I love Wal Mart. I don't shop or work there, either. I simply questioned your story because the facts, to me, do not add up.
You overreacted and started spewing religious stuff and quite a lot of anger at ME. I'd say, in psychological terms, what you did is a textbook example of projection. Not to mention that's not very Christian.
However this turns out, I wish you nothing but the best of luck.
#25 Update By Author
AUTHOR: Todd - Columbia (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, April 18, 2005
POSTED: Monday, April 18, 2005
But then again, the first duty of a Christian is to teach what the Bible has taught me.
I can tell by your posting you know nothing of the Bible; the stories in the Bible are full of wrongdoings being conducted against Christians. Even Paul, writes about a coppersmith that falsely accused him and had him put in jail. Or what about David? King Saul falsely accused him and sought to kill him. Or what about Elijah? When Jezebel falsely accused him and sought to kill him. (I like the part when she sent 50 soldier to get him and he stated, “If I am a man of God, then fire come out of heaven and consume you… and it DID!) Want some more samples? Okay, what about John the Baptist? He was falsely accused and beheaded by a teenagers dance! (Talk about shame!) And there are many more.
And another thing your posting to what I said is in correct. Why don't you go back and read my postings word-for-word, and you will notice I never said I ate food and never paid! I said I ate the food and gave all the Price Bar Codes and empty containers to the cashier! (I have a witness that can state this fact!) I offered to Wal-Mart (in good faith) that if they believed I had ate more than what was on the receipt, (if by my illness I had forgotten something) then I would be willing to pay for that! That is what I said! But the fact remains, I PAID FOR WHAT I ATE! I have the proof of this fact; Wal-Mart did not want to look at that proof. (I for one can not imagine this could have happen, but believe me, if it did not happen to me, I would not of thought it could have happen. And the more I research, the more I find happening to other people too.)
Again, I only offered to pay for any food I may have overlooked, but in fact I had paid for everything. To offer to pay for anything extra, that is a humble thing to do. (And even videotapes will prove this fact!) None of this crazy stuff you posted happen in my words.
Oh, one more thing, the biggest story in the Bible was about Jesus who was also falsely accused! So that would mean that most of the Bible, at least the major portion of the people was falsely accused of a BOGUS crime! So, tread lightly when you point your finger back at me and try to force God back at me. I will respond back with the truth, satan tries this many times and can often cause people to get trapped. I am only as wise as God and the Holy Spirit allows me to be, all my teachings comes from God, he has the glory, not me. Do I need to say more?
In Christ and Christ In Me.
#26 Individual Responds
AUTHOR: Todd - Columbia (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, April 18, 2005
POSTED: Monday, April 18, 2005
Wow, Cynthia!
Your good posting made me happy! I just wanted to let you know the part about my bloodline did not mean anything that I was better than anyone else. I was trying to state that I was a fighter all the way back. And just to let you know, my family roots do have Native Am. Ind. blood there too. Also, my wife is Asian. My brother's wife is Asian. And our family jokes that my sister may get.
If you read deep into the Bible you will discover we all came from one source. Even science has now confirmed what the Bible has said all along, we all point back to one source.
Everybody's blood is the same color! I am not raciest and I dislike whenever some people uses that against someone. I saw that first hand when I worked in Asia.
And another thing, do you remember what the main thing that Paul preached about? Peter and some others were being raciest about who would hear the gospel. Peter just wanted it to go to the Jews. But, Paul said all people are of God and they all need to hear it. So, if I was to be raciest, I am not a true Christian. I am not raciest, and therefore am a true Christian. I just wanted to clear that up. Thanks.
I think you for your prayers and good posting. There have been some good postings, and some, lets say some strange postings. My posting must have struck a nerve with some folks. Hey, praises the Lord, maybe my posting will be the key to make changes for the good. Glory be to God.
PS. I will also pray for you and your humble family.
In Christ and Christ In Me.
#27 Individual Responds
AUTHOR: Todd - Columbia (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, April 20, 2005
POSTED: Wednesday, April 20, 2005
Okay, here is what the Lord has responded to me from the Bible.
2 Timothy 4
I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry. For I am now ready to be offered, and the time of my departure is at hand. I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith: Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing. Do thy diligence to come shortly unto me: For Demas hath forsaken me, having loved this present world, and is departed unto Thessalonica; Crescens to Galatia, Titus unto Dalmatia.
Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil: the Lord reward him according to his works: Of whom be thou ware also; for he hath greatly withstood our words. At my first answer no man stood with me, but all men forsook me: I pray God that it may not be laid to their charge. Notwithstanding the Lord stood with me, and strengthened me; that by me the preaching might be fully known, and that all the Gentiles might hear: and I was delivered out of the mouth of the lion. And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
#28 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Robert - Rochester (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, April 21, 2005
POSTED: Thursday, April 21, 2005
You need to stop handling snakes, you've been bit one too many times.
#29 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Gary - Oceanside (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, April 21, 2005
POSTED: Thursday, April 21, 2005
Well Todd, As a ture Christian why haven't you gone to your priest for confession. Confess that you gave the impression that you stole. Then ask for forgivness then serve some pentence, say 20 Hail Mary's. Then Celebrate that we true Christians have a new holy father. As with Daniel Boone, Could you go to your cousin Pat Boone for help? I will pray to the Blessed virgin
and to saint jude to help your case. As the Right Rev. Father Mc Quarter once said. Thank Heaven for 7-11. That's were I shop. God Bless.
#30 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Bill - Simpsonville (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, April 21, 2005
POSTED: Thursday, April 21, 2005
I don't see what all the christanity has to do with it. I see in the paper in our area 5 to 10 people a week are arrested for shoplifting at Wal-Marts, and prosecuted. If you don't like Wal-Marts don't go in there. But like the old saying if "You can't do the time, don't do the crime."
You can sure tell when there is a full moon out.
#31 Individual Responds
AUTHOR: Todd - Columbia (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, April 21, 2005
POSTED: Thursday, April 21, 2005
Hi Folks,
I thank many of you for your responses. It has allowed me to see what this world has come to. Brother and sister turn against each other, to destroy a life over some little thing that is falsely accused! But I do see good folks, for they out number the wicked, if we rise up, we can make a difference, make your voice known!
The last time I checked, the US Bill of Rights, you are innocent until proven guilty! But this world wants you to be guilty until proven innocent! SHAME! I have already said many times that I have the proof I did nothing wrong. But then a few of you keep stating I did do something wrong. I guess the wrong I did, as a True Christian, is shop at a store (Wal-Mart), that is known to use (Child-slave-labor)! Just look at what Wal-Mart is doing to it's own employees, working them underpaid, no support, and then accuses them of wrongdoings. It is a very bad sign when an employer falsely accuses it's customers of shoplifting, and then it's another thing when the same employer accuses it's employees!
I have another scripture that says it all:
"This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as their's also was. But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience, 11 Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me. Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived. But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them; And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works" (Holy Bible, KJV, 2 Timothy 3).
#32 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Jason - Simpsonville (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, April 22, 2005
POSTED: Friday, April 22, 2005
Seems noone has pointed this out, but seems to me that brandishing Christianity/faith as a weapon is one of the signs that all is not as it seems. This is happening throughout this thread, but we also have another red flag that gets raised...
>>Oh Give Me A Break!!! YOU: Wal-Mart Lovers! You would be agreeing with me if you were not being paid by Wal-Mart!<<
Anyone who disagrees is obviously a plant by the opposition to discredit.
This whole thing has all the signs (and smells) of either something that is completely fabricated or spun to cause harm to others.
#33 Employee
AUTHOR: Brian - RIVERSIDE (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, May 11, 2005
POSTED: Wednesday, May 11, 2005
Just because you are a 'Christian', that doesnt make you special in the eyes of the world. Todd, your full of crap. YOur using your religion as a crutch to justify whatever crime you are hiding.
You are trying to have us believe what? Christians dont steal? Christians do alot of things they arent suppose to. Remember what Jesus said, Todd: All liars shall be cast into the Lake of Fire.
#34 Consumer Suggestion
AUTHOR: Janie - Collin (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, June 08, 2005
POSTED: Wednesday, June 08, 2005
I would've imagined it was a mistake, but the employees should have handled things differently. They should've taken time to listen to everything and not rush around. But maybe that's how they like to handle things. I do shop at Walmart because I like their prices.
My dad has always grabbed a drink or ate something while we're shopping. And he always takes whatever it is to the cashier and ask her to ring it up. He stands there and watches to make sure everything is done correctly. Walmart employees here don't care about that either.
The only problem I have with Walmart is when I exit the store. I feel like they treat everyone as thieves. I understand they don't want anyone to get away with stolen merchandise, but stopping and asking about every little thing annoys me.
I have been stopped about a 1.99 magazine that I did pay for, but it wasn't in a bag. I gave her the receipt and she checked everything and then asked me if I had paid for my magazine. I know they're just doing their job, but I don't like being treated like a thief. I think they should go about some things in a different way.
#35 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Robert - Jacksonville (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, June 09, 2005
POSTED: Thursday, June 09, 2005
Because that is their typical customer. You even say your dad STEALS food and drinks while wandering around. He is STEALING the stuff because he has NOT paid for them yet. Just because he pays before he leaves means nothing. Walmart is not a restaurant.
For those who want to argue the semantics of theft versus paying when you leave, I've heard the whole story before. "I hadn't left the store so I didn't steal anything". BS! Untill you pay for the items, they are NOT yours.
Why not open up the toys and play with them. If your dad didn't know he was being watched, he would not bother to pay when he left.
He knows he's being watched so he makes sure he pays for the stuff. Just like the geniuses that gobble down grapes and candy at the grocery store. The stuff is sold by weight, so if they eat as much as they can so they don't have to pay for it.
Here's an idea. If you're that hungry, go to a restaurant, or eat at home. Amazingly, I have never been accused of shoplifting anything. It may have something to do with how I was raised, or it may have something to do with I'm not stupid enough to put myself in a situation where I could be suspected.
#36 Consumer Suggestion
AUTHOR: Janie - Collin (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, June 17, 2005
POSTED: Friday, June 17, 2005
Walmart treats people like that because they are trying to cut down on items being stolen. It's not every person at the entrance that does this, just certain ones. I never said my dad steals anything. Walmart down here doesn't care if you eat, or drink anything before you pay. My dad is an extremely honest man.
He makes sure everything is paid for and HE MAKES A POINT to give everything to the cashier. Don't take my words and twist them around so that you won't look ignorant. It didn't work too well. I still shop at Walmart.
I just think it's annoying when you have a cart full of bags that shows you have checked out, and then a box that is too big for a bag in the cart too. But I know they are just doing their job. I would imagine Walmart has to deal with quite a bit of thieves.
My husband and I helped catch one one night while we were shopping in Walmart. So contrary to your thinking, I am a very honest person. Don't talk about something or someone unless you know them. You just proved your ignorance.
#37 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: J - Anytown (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, June 17, 2005
POSTED: Friday, June 17, 2005
Well first thing I have to say to Kathy is you know very little about law enforcement. Let me give you a little of my backround. I worked as a loss prevention manager for a major retailer for 9 years and after that I was a police officer for 5 years. You are never taken to another county jail even if you have a warrant in that county. Legal requirement is that you are jailed in the county jail where the crime occured. He would have been sent to jail in the county that the wal mart was located. He could not have been booked in one county for a crime that was commited in another. The only reason he might have been sent to an adjacent county is if the county jail where the crime occured was at capacity. And that is only if they have a mutual aid agreement to house adjacent county prisoners. 99% of the time that is not done because it costs the arresting county more to house him in another county jail.
Second is that in his post he states the items were on the receipt, the loss prevention rep probably knew she screwed up but did not want to back down for fear of loosing her job. Some retailers will terminate you for 1 false detention charge, because if it is a true false dentention it can cost that company thousands of dollars from a lawsuit.
I know this for a fact because one of my loss prevention reps that I had detained someone falsely and the person resisted. While trying to handcuff the person he tightened the cuffs too tight and refused to loosen them. The person suffered permanent nerve damage to his hand. The person sued and was awarded over 500,000 in damages. I terminated the person the same night.
Another rep that worked for me had a false detention and there was no incident what so ever and this person sued and was awarded over 30,000. That is why it is preached (no pun intended) that if you are not 100 percent sure let them go.
Another thing the amount of the loss was 11.00. That falls under a misdemeanor in probably 99.9 percent of the counties in america. Even in South Carolina
Read
SECTION 16-13-110. Shoplifting.
(A) A person is guilty of shoplifting if he:
(1) takes possession of, carries away, transfers from one person to another or from one area of a store or other retail mercantile establishment to another area, or causes to be carried away or transferred any merchandise displayed, held, stored, or offered for sale by any store or other retail mercantile establishment with the intention of depriving the merchant of the possession, use, or benefit of the merchandise without paying the full retail value;
(2) alters, transfers, or removes any label, price tag marking, indicia of value, or any other markings which aid in determining value affixed to any merchandise displayed, held, stored, or offered for sale in a store or other retail mercantile establishment and attempts to purchase the merchandise personally or in consort with another at less than the full retail value with the intention of depriving the merchant of the full retail value of the merchandise;
(3) transfers any merchandise displayed, held, stored, or offered for sale by any store or other retail mercantile establishment from the container in which it is displayed to any other container with intent to deprive the merchant of the full retail value.
(B) A person who violates the provisions of this section is guilty of a:
(1) misdemeanor triable in magistrate's court and, upon conviction, must be fined not more than five hundred dollars or imprisoned not more than thirty days if the value of the shoplifted merchandise is one thousand dollars or less;
(2) felony and, upon conviction, must be fined not more than one thousand dollars or imprisoned not more than five years, or both, if the value of the shoplifted merchandise is more than one thousand dollars but less than five thousand dollars;
(3) felony and, upon conviction, must be imprisoned not more than ten years if the value of the shoplifted merchandise is five thousand dollars or more.
SECTION 16-13-111. Reports of shoplifting convictions.
A first offense shoplifting prosecution or second offense resulting in a conviction shall be reported by the magistrate or city recorder hearing the case to the Communications and Records Division of the South Carolina Law Enforcement Division which shall keep a record of such conviction so that any law enforcement agency can inquire into whether or not a defendant has a prior record.
SECTION 16-13-120. Shoplifting; presumptions from concealment of unpurchased goods.
It is permissible to infer that any person wilfully concealing unpurchased goods or merchandise of any store or other mercantile establishment either on the premises or outside the premises of the store has concealed the article with the intention of converting it to his own use without paying the purchase price thereof within the meaning of Section 16-13-110. It is also permissible to infer that the finding of the unpurchased goods or merchandise concealed upon the person or among the belongings of the person is evidence of wilful concealment. If the person conceals or causes to be concealed the unpurchased goods or merchandise upon the person or among the belongings of another, it is also permissible to infer that the person so concealing such goods wilfully concealed them with the intention of converting them to his own use without paying the purchase price thereof within the meaning of Section 16-13-110.
SECTION 16-13-130. Sections 16-13-110 and 16-13-120 are cumulative.
The offense created by Section 16-13-110 and the inferences provided in Section 16-13-120 are not exclusive and are in addition to previously existing offenses and those rights and presumptions as were heretofore provided by law.
SECTION 16-13-140. Defense to action for delay to investigate ownership of merchandise.
In any action brought by reason of having been delayed by a merchant or merchant's employee or agent on or near the premises of a mercantile establishment for the purpose of investigation concerning the ownership of any merchandise, it shall be a defense to such action if: (1) The person was delayed in a reasonable manner and for a reasonable time to permit such investigation, and (2) reasonable cause existed to believe that the person delayed had committed the crime of shoplifting.
The officer in this case had the option not to even take him to jail. A misdemeanor is a summonable offense. That means he could have written him a summons to appear in court. When I worked as an loss prevention manager I would direct my reps not to even call the police unless the theft was over 50.00. We would let them go and file charges ourselves with the prosecutor. It was less expensive that way.
As far not being allowed to see the video tape, they don't have to let you see them. It is their property and their option on letting you view them. Your lawyer (if you already have one) can subpoena the court for a copy of the tape.
Question for you. Did they keep the receipt? If they did you can demand it back, that is your property and can prove if the items were or were not rang up.
Get an attorney for your case, it they are wrong they will probably do everything in their power to lose evidence, delay your case and other things. Have your wife or a close friend go back into walmart and get the name of the cashier if you don't already know it, she can be a witness for you down the road. Just don't go in there yourself if you do you can be charged with trespassing.
If you have been wronged file a civil suit against walmart. And no offense but your religious backround matters very little to retail stores.
I have caught a preacher shoplifting a pair of shoes and a catholic nun shoplifting a bra.
#38 Consumer Suggestion
AUTHOR: Frank - North Brunswick (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, June 27, 2005
POSTED: Monday, June 27, 2005
Todd,
I am sorry to see that Walmart has such a strong control over our legal and police department of this country nationwide.
I also had a similiar situation that occured to me in Sept of 2004. The security guard essentially stopped me outside the store, and demanded for me to go to the backroom with him without any explaination. While we waited for a manager to arrive, he took a disposable camera off the shelf and told the manager that I tried to steal this.
In court, this camera was never submitted by Walmart as evidence. They said that they put it back on to the shelf so it could be sold, even after I ask for it to be kept for fingerprint test.
Also during court, it was found that:
1.The police report and the internal Walmart report that the security guard wrote stated that ran out the store after I began to exit the store. The surveillance video and his testimony stated that he walked out of the store 28 seconds before I exited the store. The time sequence and his demeanor simply does not match up.
2.The video does not show the witness that the security guard supposedly picked up @ door 1, stated in his testimony
3.The security guard admitted during trial, that his testimony, was different then what was indicated on the police statement and the internal Walmart report.
With all these inconsistancies, the municipal court found me guilty. After appealing the decision, the appeals court found me guilty. Please tell me where I can find justice in this country. Walmart had no hard evidence to support their claim. Their only evidence, was the security guards words, which was not credible comparing to all available evidence.
Todd, the sad truth is, retailers as powerful as Walmart, has everything under control. I am not here saying that things are the same everywhere in this nation. But certain towns are influenced. Walmart knows that a false arrest can lead to a substantial lawsuit. So even if they made a mistake and one is indeed innocent, you are going to go down and they are going to make sure of that.
At this point, I don't have anywhere else to seek for justice except for the media. Todd, having walked down the same path that you are about to, here is my advice:
1.If you are really innocent, fight for your honor. Don't let Walmart get away with this.
2.Make sure you collect all available evidence.
3.Get a good lawyer. He is your ticket to seek further damages that this is causing you. If you are found guilty, all bets are off.
4.Expect to lose. From your story, there were a lot of injustice already. If Walmart and its management dare to treat you unfairly, and the police dare to violate all the rules, chances are, they have backing to support their actions.
5.Contact the media. Let your story be heard. I wish I had done so. I trusted the justice system and didn't contact the media. Make sure to do so under the consent of your lawyer. You don't want Walmart to come back and sue you for defamation.
Todd, I wish you good luck. Like C from Anytown CA said, the court doesn't recognize color or faith. From my experience, it recognizes the color of GREEN!
Also, the victims need to band togather to fight this evil. If you or any others are willing to give me your email addresses, please email me @
fangyunlin@aol.com
We need to work togather to eliminate further injustice.
#39 Ex-Employee
AUTHOR: Daisey - AP (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, June 28, 2005
POSTED: Tuesday, June 28, 2005
Dear Todd
i worked for Wal-mart and would still be working for Wal-Mart if i didnt move to Japan.My husband is in the military and i have worked at alot of different Wal-Mart store's.I know that a Wal-Mart employee should never tell you that you could eat something with out paying for it. But ONE thing as an ADULT you should know is you cant eat anything with out paying for it first.And as a christian you know that would be stilling cause it dont belong to you till you pay for it.And as a christian you cant go around tell people that someone is evil.That would be judging someone and you dont know what is in there heart and walk with God. Matt 7:1-5
1 "Judge not, that you be not judged. 2For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you. 3And why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye? 4Or how can you say to your brother, "Let me remove the speck from your eye'; and look, a plank is in your own eye? 5Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.
And now you wonder why so many people dont want to go to church cause we as christians are not setting a good example of how to be good christians.God wants you to love people not fight.Isnt that WHY Jesus died for us is cause he loved us and took on are sins.Not because of hate.You as a christian should smile and say i will pray for you.Cause the devil wants you to fight and get angery thats what makes him happy.God dont call you to fight Wal-Mart he calles you to preach the truth of his words.All im saying is as an Adult christian you should have know to pay for your stuff before you ate it.Cause till you payed for it was property of Wal-mart's.You wouldnt like it if i came to your house and picked up something and took it and when you caught me I told you that i was jest barrowing it.
GOD BLESS YOU !!!
#40 Consumer Suggestion
AUTHOR: Karlton - La Canada (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, June 28, 2005
POSTED: Tuesday, June 28, 2005
Todd what would Christ have done? Whoops we know what Christ did when accused of crimes he did not do. Are you sure you want to go down this road my friend? Todd you are not being Christ Like
#41 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Le Tascia - Atlanta (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, June 28, 2005
POSTED: Tuesday, June 28, 2005
I just wanted to add another point to this discussion that hasn't been considered or discussed. No one has acknowledged or discussed the possibility that it could be considered "standard practice" in this area of South Carolina to eat food items prior to paying for those items. I think that although most rational minds can conclude that this is still not a wise decision, given the possibility that the impression of theft can be given; it is still important to note that in many areas of the south, including large metropolitan areas like Atlanta, Georgia where I live, it is common practice to consume an item and bring its empty carton to the register for payment upon check-out. I'm not implying that this isn't (or is) against some corporate policy, or local law - I'm simply suggesting that, as a commonplace practice, it should be considered when debating this subject.
I thought it was interesting that no one mentioned this.
(For the record, I am a Christian minister who shops at Walmart (although I strongly disagree with their employee treatment), and has never been employed by Walmart, nor do I ever expect to be. I do not eat before paying, nor do I allow my children to - although I will admit to tasting a couple of grapes before purchasing to make sure they are sweet and firm).
God Bless!
#42 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: The - So Sorry (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, June 28, 2005
POSTED: Tuesday, June 28, 2005
Todd, I'm not going to tell you why but I totally believe you are telling the truth.
Also I happen to know for a fact that most of the police departments and court systems in South Carolina are as corrupt as they come.
Walmart is a corporate bully no different than Lowe's or Home Depot plan and simple.
J. from California is correct in stating that once they know they have made an error, they don't care. They will never admit it because they are just that slezzy and conscience free.
Get a good lawyer and try to involve the media if you can but remember the networks and local stations receive tons of money from Walmart advertising so they have been bought to a certain degree as well. The only thing you can hope for is some how some way this turns into a big enough story so that the media will get more mileage out of covering the story than kissing Walmart's ass and turning a blind eye. The media will pretend that their news/editorials, etc. are seperate from the entertainment divisions but we all know how that changes when a company that spends as much money on ads as Walmart does is involved.
Also unfortunately for you so many people lie so well claiming to be innocent when they're not that now days most people whether police or news or courts just can't tell who's telling the truth and who's not. And that brings me to my next point which is if you are innocent and you play your cards right you can beat them with the truth. Because if you are right and they are wrong they will have no option but to lie and bury themselves. However you have to stick with the absolute truth about absolutely everything. One minor white lie can put the ball back in their court and you will be out. So remember, the truth is your answer and your answer is the truth, period.
The see no evil hear no evil world we now live in is part of the problem for you. Try not to let the bastards get you down.
Sorry I couldn't tell you anything you probably didn't already know or heard. I thought I will offer my support anyway. Hope I help.
You show in a great way how the police now use children and the social service department to intimidate people into submitting to their bullying as well. That is purhaps your best angle with the media. Many many people have experienced that all over this country and that's alot better story for the media than someone falsely accused of stealing a hot dog or whatever.
AGAIN, SHAM ON YOU SCUM OF WALMART. BUT THANKS FOR SHOWING YOURS ASSES ONCE AGAIN AND PROVING ONCE AGAIN WHAT I HAVE KNOWN ABOUT YOU PEOPLE TO BE TRUE.
#43 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: The - So Sorry (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, June 28, 2005
POSTED: Tuesday, June 28, 2005
It is not out of the realm of possibilities that Walmart has been or will be accussed of targeting the minority racial groups in the policing of their stores. Therefore, in an effort to try to fight any such possible charges (outstanding or anticipated), they may have hatched a very devious plan to simply arrest people of non-minority status who they know are innocent in order to bring down the ratio of black to white person arrests before going to court or before the situation is discovered. Columbia, South Carolina has a high number of black citizens, and we all know how the relationship between that State and the black population can best be described. Just a theory at this point but nevertheless.........certainly worth thinking about.
#44 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Russell - Conway (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, July 13, 2005
POSTED: Wednesday, July 13, 2005
You sir, are obviously blowing this out your smokestack, yes you stole, and just admit it. I bet that you sir did what you are accused of, and as a police officer that all registers at Wal-Mart are on tape, and it would show the empty items being scanned, simple enough.
You are guilty if the tapes showed them not being scanned, because sir, the cameras can follow you around the store. Lean on your crutch of christianity, but I am a christian, and I can honestly see when someone is lying...just like you.
Let me summarize this for you, you are probably an african american "christian" who goes to church each Sunday, and then "fellowships" with the corner drug dealers, as far as I am concerned, and all lawyers and law enforcement, they don't charge without proof...take your cying game elsewhere
#45 Ex-Employee
AUTHOR: Dick - Decatur (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, July 15, 2005
POSTED: Friday, July 15, 2005
Spoken just like a South Carolina cop. Judgemental as hell. The guy said his roots go back to Daniel Boone so how can you profile him as most likely being black. By the way, you can say black instead of "African American" because you obviously have no respect for blacks like most cops in South Carolina. And as for you insisting he is guilty after he said they took his receipt and wouldn't show him the security tapes, well, it sounds like you are probably one of the crooked cops that Wal-Mart uses to pull their devious stunts. Go back to church you so called Christian, you need it. But pay more attention in Church than you did reading the report.
You give COPS a bad name. By the way, you do know we call you all COPS because of the way you people always COP attitudes.
You sound very dangerous and bitter. I'm glad I don't live in a piss hole place like Conway, South Carolina where you do your policing. OH, and please quite trying to equate lawyers with cops. Everybody knows it's not lawyers who charge people with crimes, stupid.
#46 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Lori - Kalkaska (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, July 15, 2005
POSTED: Friday, July 15, 2005
Like I said, I'm not going to touch any of the religious comments that have been made throughout this thread, but as a Walmart shopper (10 children, and a monthly spending amount of approx. $1000 at Walmart) I've also been told that it's acceptable to have a drink while shopping, or even open and consume snacks while shopping, paying at the checkout at the conclusion of our trip. At both stores that I shop at, I've checked numerous times before I opened the product (several times for baby bottle refills, as well as water or sugar for myself), and have always been assured that this was acceptable. This also happens to be the policy of our local Toys R Us store. NEVER have I been stopped while shopping, never accused, never any problems.
Gotta say that I'm glad I live in the north country! I have to extend my hopes for good luck in the future to you, and let you know that this IS an accepted practice in our area.
#47 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Russell - Conway (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, July 15, 2005
POSTED: Friday, July 15, 2005
Dick, you have never been a Police Office, and have no clue as to the times I go to Wal Mart each and every day for Shoplifting complaints. I know in SC we won't take the report unless the theft is documented on video tape, and why would we show that evidence to the alledged? They will have there day in court last time I checked. I can smell a false report a mile away, because over the years I have seen enough of them, and this guy is blowing it out his butt. I am an African American by the way, and I don't hate my own people, and the assertion that I am racist is ignorant. There are bad blacks that we and the white people can even call the N word, and there is white trash right along with it...no race is perfect, but I also know how each race is, a lot of people go to church every Sunday, and then either go get drunk in the bar, and associate with the local drug dealers, so tell me how this is Christian. Also, I don't work in Conway, this is a beach area, I just live in Conway. So Dick, since you are one, get your facts straight, because I know what I am talking about, and you don't, so next time attack the argument, and not my character.
#48 Ex-Employee
AUTHOR: Dick - Decatur (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, July 16, 2005
POSTED: Saturday, July 16, 2005
Now how do you know I've never been a cop? Is it because I don't jump to conclusions and act like I know everything. You don't know a thing here and you are the one attacking the character of the original reporter by saying he most likely goes to church and then hangs with the drug dealers. Someone needs to defend this man against the likes of you. I'm not surprised at all to hear you are black. As a matter of fact I kindof suspected you were but I sure as hell wasn't going to state that until I had further evidence. Yeah, I know there are nigers and white trash (wiggers) out there and they are definately congragated in South Carolina. But for you to be so pompus as to state this guy is definately guilty, you just show what an idiot you are. Let's say since you live in Conway, a crappy place by the way whether beachy or not, why don't you get your butt in your police car and go to his trial. I bet you're going to be afraid to because I bet you already know you were wrong. You went back and read the part about Daniel Boone and realized, shit just like in school you were to lazy to do your home work before submitting your rebuttal and you failed. You didn't respond to his report to make a helpful comment you responded to be argumentative and hostile and not even in a constructive or responsible manner. You are a bully and a hypocrite. I bet you are the one who hangs out with the drug dealers and pimps. You are a disgrace to the uniform and a danger to society. Thank you for identifying yourself as a cop because everyone who sees this will know the cops in South Carolina have earned their reputation. Thank you also for admitting as a cop the blacks are usually the ones committing the crimes in South Carolina. That's why the courts and jails are full of blacks. But instead of attacking a white you who probably isn't guilty, take your black ass to the streets and preach to your own kind. They seem to be having a hard time getting the message. After that you might consider taking a change of heart on if you want to continue being a public servant. I can assure you the public is not going to stand for bad cops much longer. By the way, you state you don't work in Conway, you just live in Conway because it's a beach town. I don't get the logic there. They still have cops in beach towns you know. Either way, I'm just wondering why you felt the need to add in Conway being a beach town. You could have just put I don't work in Conway and that would have been sufficient. I hope you don't think that living in a beach town is all impressive and all and gives you more credance because I doesn't. Get a life old sport and know my name's not really dick. But I'm glad to see you noticed.
ONE MORE THING - RUSSELL
Why show him his receipt? Are you kidding? First the receipt belongs to him. He shouldn't have given it to them. It was given to him when he paid and it became his private property at that moment. In addition, it is also his "EVIDENCE" my dear. His EVIDENCE of Wal-Mart's crime and that he is innocent. You cops are way out of control and you proved it.
#49 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Robert - Jacksonville (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, July 16, 2005
POSTED: Saturday, July 16, 2005
His reciept is his private property and he doesn't have to show it to anyone? Perhaps if he did show it to the people involved...manager, cops, magistrate, etc....he would not have been arrested or charged with shoplifting. I restate my opinion that he did indeed steal the food. His unwillingness to show the reciept and be done with the bother sort of proves this. If I was put in a position where I was accused of doing this, I would immediately choose to show the reciept and demand a public apology. He "chose" to be cuffed and stuffed. The prisons are full of "innocents" and churches are full of "saints". Too funny. But what do I know. I don't steal food and claim I paid for it. I still think he chowed down and left the empties wherever he dropped them. Religion is the last refuge of scoundrels. I shop at Target. They cater to a higher class of customer, and I never see anyone being hauled off.
#50 Ex-Employee
AUTHOR: Dick - Decatur (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, July 17, 2005
POSTED: Sunday, July 17, 2005
Are you on drugs? I never said for him not to show his receipt to anyone. He should have held it in his hands and let them look at it. Now that they took it from him he can't show it to anyone. DUUUUUHHHH! He could have shown it to anyone he wanted to whether be the cops or magistrate or whoever. The manager of the store already has a back up copy of his receipt that stays on the spool at the register. But instead Wal-Mart took his receipt from him and refused to give it back. Why do they need to do this do you ask. Because they are committing fraud against him. They didn't want him to have his receipt to defend himself. Wal-Mart has probably already made a fake receipt up to replace his real receipt which they will bring to court to try to make the charges stick. When his attorney requests a copy of it before the trial they will simply give his lawyer a copy of the fake one they make. If you think they are not devious enough to do this then you are either on drugs or you need to start taking them to help you think straight. You probably work for Wal-Mart because you keep trying to confuse situations and twist words in Wal-Marts favor everytime you leave a rebuttal concerning that nasty corporation. Or maybe you're just plan stupid. You decide.
#51 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Russell - Conway (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, July 17, 2005
POSTED: Sunday, July 17, 2005
Well Dick, let me just say, I never said anything about the receipt, the word I used was evidence. I didn't even notice if that was taken...I was referring to videotapes etc that would usually be taken as evidence. Oh and by the way, I don't arrest just blacks, I arrest whoever breaks the law. Look, I have been in my job long enough to tell you that something stinks nad of all the times I have been to Wal Mart, I wouldn't even write a report unless it was documented on videotape and verified in a written statement by the cashier. Oh and by the way just because his heritage may include Daniel Boone doesn't automatically make him white, my roots can be traced back to Jefferson, ever heard of slave owners? Anyway, go ahead and attack my character again, and then try to attack the argument, because if you would attack the argument, you might be worth talking to.
#52 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Robert - Jacksonville (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, July 17, 2005
POSTED: Sunday, July 17, 2005
The man was arrested. Cops don't just do that because they have nothing better to do. In fact, he was taken to another county. Perhaps he was WANTED in another county. Think about that. One day, a cop drives bt Wally World and says "I think I'll arrest someone who is completely innocent". "I like doing all the paperwork involved and going to court on my day off". "Yep, I'll go there and try NOT looking for a reason to NOT arrest an innocent guy". And at Walmart, another group of people say "Let's get together and frame some poor shlub for eating food without paying". "Let's all make sure we doctor the video tapes and make new register tapes to make it look like he did it". "I know it will take an amazing amount of resources to do the video editing and rewrite the programming on all of the registers to make it look like he really did something illegal, but let's go for it". Now, I will ask you just once...do you really believe that scenario or are you, as you put it, "just plain stupid"? I vote for the latter. And since you apparently like calling people names, I would think you'd be better off if you weren't a "Dick".
#53 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Brandy - Lebanon (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, July 18, 2005
POSTED: Monday, July 18, 2005
Of course I was not there, however, I am guilty of the same thing.. I can go to the grocery store and i will snack on things before I pay for them, and YES I do pay for them. I don't think that Todd seems like the type of person to steal. It clearly states that they do not have video tapes, the receipt cam back that he DID pay for the items.. So I do not see how wal-mart will have a case at all!... As far as shoplifting goes.. that is when a person takes something out of the store and doesnt pay for it. In this case he paid before he walked out of the store, so how do any of you think that they have a case???
Todd, I know you and your family will beat this and I will add you to my prayer list. And you are correct, with God in your heart, he will take care of you.
#54 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Denny - Honolulu (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, July 18, 2005
POSTED: Monday, July 18, 2005
the guy did something criminal.
sorry, but his fault.
can't wait to get to the car to eat?
grab a bite before you shop maybe?
He was caught, he was arrested and he is more than likely guilty of shoplifting
stores here do not ALLOW you to eat their food before purchase (simply because what prevents you from finishing that pcakge of potato chips and leaving the rubbish behind and not paying for it?)
EAT outside.
end of story.
keep the religious crap out.
#55 Ex-Employee
AUTHOR: Dick - Decatur (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, July 18, 2005
POSTED: Monday, July 18, 2005
Both of you are the real dicks here. If you can't take it, don't dish it out. How do you like being attacked and called liers? Don't like it much do you. You think you can come on and call the original reporter a lier and everything else you can think up in your little brains. I have taken much pleasure in sending your bs right back to you. Russell, since you're so sure Todd is black, do us a favor and go to his trial and let us all know. I will bet you he's white. And Robert, you just need to get a life.
You are so far out there with your rationalizations that I can't stand reading your rebuttals. If you think Wal-Mart hasn't mastered covering their asses when they realized they screwed up and falsely accussed someone then you're nuts. And if you think the police in most parts of this country and especially South Carolina can't be bought then you are equally ignorant. They kiss Wal-Mart's ass because of the revenue they create for the county's which goes to pay for the salaries of the police.
That's so elementary I can't believe I'm actually having to teach that to you. Common Sense 101. Russell was first pretending to be a white man bashing the blacks in an effort to make whites look bad. Having lived in South Carolina for a while I know the blacks there are far more predjudiced than the whites and the black moms and dads teach hate.
What disturbes me the most is Russell is in fact black and seems to think that Todd is a black man who deserves to be included in the "niger" catagory just because he was falsely charged with eating a hotdog at Walmart. Whether Todd's black or white, even if he did steal a hotdog or whatever, that wouldn't qualify him for "niger" status.
Todd's only mistake that I can see is he shopped at Wal-Mart to begin with.
Whoever stated that they taste tested a few grapes in the grocery store to make sure they were firm is the real thief. That's stealing because he never intended to pay for the grapes. Was that you Robert, I can't remember? I'll
check when I'm done here.
You've got to change your evil ways Russell or one day you'll be just as sleezy as the shit for cops at the City of Beaufort PD, S.C. who run the date rape drug ring involving a child daycare center.
#56 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Russell - Conway (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, July 19, 2005
POSTED: Tuesday, July 19, 2005
Hey Dick,
Attack the argument for once, not me, I checked with Wal-Mart tonight, and ******Surprise***** what he did go's against their store policy, NATIONWIDE, and guess what, he got caught. And no, by the way, I haven't ever visited Beaufort, or Hilton Head, I have the money to, but just haven't. Since you attacked my character, I will attack yours....you Georgia Assholes are all the same, lets show our stupid White or Black asses in Myrtle Beach.
You have no clue "DICK" because that is what you are, have you ever worked for Wal-Mart or have you ever ridden a beat with a cop? Because surprise!!!!! I have done both!
I worked in LP for a long time here, and I know how it goes...this is a guilty bastard who just wants to complain about it, and now that I know the store policy, I can only say...go to hell idiot.
#57 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Stephen - Beverly Hills (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, July 20, 2005
POSTED: Wednesday, July 20, 2005
I guess because he's christian AND disabled he feels the world owes him. newsflash for you buddy no one owes you SQUAT.
you are a thief and you got caught it's your own fault. god has no play in it. If god did he would have stopped you from stealing food.
you were arrested because you stole, it's your own fault and now you will have to deal with it.
Vicks 3:16
#58 Ex-Employee
AUTHOR: Dick - Decatur (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, July 21, 2005
POSTED: Thursday, July 21, 2005
I guess you have heard of Yale University. Thanks for showing how dumb cops are now days and what you truly are. You know, what you call the "n" word. That's you.
Oh and tell us Russell, is Todd black or white and don't pretend you didn't ask when you called the white trash at Wal-Mart to inquire? Did you actually think they were going to tell you the guy was innocent and they screwed up? You see what I mean about you being stupid?
No I can proudly say I've never worked at Wal-Mart. Thanks for making me laugh though.
Have a good one ole'sport.
#59 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Robert - Jacksonville (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, July 21, 2005
POSTED: Thursday, July 21, 2005
You're a lawyer. First, Attorneys call themselves ATTORNEYS, not lawyers. Second, for a person who went to Yale, you sure can't spell or use proper grammar. I went to Harvard. Nice place. I delivered some equipment there when I drove a truck way back when. I guess that's why you believe that incredible story Todd spews forth and why you concoct these insane conspiracy theories. You are delusional or pathological. Your choice. Take your meds and go with the nice men.
#60 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Russell - Conway (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, July 21, 2005
POSTED: Thursday, July 21, 2005
Sure you went there Dick, but I do have a degree for real, not like the one you wipe your butt with. Mine is actually a MBA from Coastal Carolina and Webster University. So, yes I am a cop, and a supervisor at that. But my other job is financial consulting, and I probably make more in one year doing that, than you will ever see in a lifetime. Sure, keep blowing it out your butt, but at least I pulled myself up by my bootstraps and made something of myself. Sure you are a lawyer so you say, but I bet I know the law better than you do any day! Stop lying you stupid idiot, and try telling the truth, sure you're a lawyer....right! Keep dreaming!
#61 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Michael - Bountiful (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, July 21, 2005
POSTED: Thursday, July 21, 2005
I live in Utah and just a stones throw from BYU. Some of the biggest crooks in the valley are BYU students so the "good christain family" argument doesnt wash.
Wal-Mart, Sam's Club, etc, employees are just doing their jobs. If what you say is true it does sound a little heavy handed but if you stole you stole. Period.
Sam's Club employees are annoying. They stop you at the door to make sure you haven't stolen anything. However, once you exchange legal currency for merchandise the merchandise becomes YOUR property, not theirs. So unless they have resonable cause to stop you then ignore them. If they want to call the cops let them.
Anyway, if Wal-Mart thinks they have a case then let them take you to court and let them prove what you did. Maybe you will win $111 million in a malicious prosecution lawsuit and then you can shop anywhere you want!
#62 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Jon - Scotia (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, July 22, 2005
POSTED: Friday, July 22, 2005
Todd,it is a shame what a mess you got yourself into with Walmart.
But Todd, give me a break!
I would think that you would have enough common sense no to eat food off of the counter in a supermarket, no matter they be Walmart
or any other grocery store.
To me, it is just plain stupid.
So who gave you permission to eat their food before paying? The guy mopping the floor? He doesn't care what you do, and he has no authority over store policy.
Only the Store Manager can give you permission, and you obviously didn't use your head and ask the right person. I really doubt the Manager would have given you permission anyway.
If the Manager had caught you eating his food in the aisles, you would have been arrested on the spot, too, and you'd be in a worse jam. At least the way it worked out, you have a receipt
for the alleged stolen items.
That's about all you have going for you in this case. Whether or not that holds up in court if you sue them, is up to the judge. I wouldn't expect him to be sympathetic with you, since you ate Walmart's food without paying first. You can eat now pay later at a restaurant, but that's ridiculous at a supermarket!
At least Walmart didn't pursue further pressing the charges, so consider yourself fortunate you only spent one night in jail.
As far as the police officer is concerned, it's always best policy to just shut-up and not put him under stress while he is performing an arrest; otherwise he might arrest whoever is annoying him as interfering with the arrest.
You undoubtedly consider this unfair, but
the officer probably doesn't want to arrest you, but it is his job, and upon a complaint by the store, he must take you in, he has no
choice.
It is an extremely high-stress situation for him, so give him some respect and you'll get his in return.
Anyway, all the Walmarts that I know of have a lunch counter where you can eat, so why weren't you eating there, where there would be no problems?
Eating unpaid for food in the aisles is a dumb thing to do, and is most likely a health code violation for the store on top of being
theft by you. So of course the store isn't going to allow it, and they have the right to protect their inventory by having you arrested.
The Manager doesn't know what you've actually eaten, there's no way for her to verify what you tell her. She doesn't know you, even if you're the most honest and religious man on the planet.
And the cashier has no first hand knowledge of what you've eaten, either.
It is an unfortunate incident and next time you feel hungry, use the brain God gave you and eat at the lunch counter or pay for your groceries first and then and eat at home!
Any supermarket would have arrested you, so I consider this an unfair complaint against Walmart. They have the right to protect their inventory, as any store does! Walmart is aggressive about shoplifting since their margins are lower than most stores, and they must keep their shrinkage low to keep their low prices.
#63 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Tom - Gahanna (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, July 23, 2005
POSTED: Saturday, July 23, 2005
Dear shoplifting guy
I dont know about you, but its not the usual thing to do to eat food in a supermarket before you pay for it. Even if they say 'ok ok' but pay for it before you leave.... the question begs
Are you so starving u cant just wait until u leave the store? I dont see too many people cooking up steaks -eating cereal - or fryin eggs in the store before they pay for the merchandise.
So u ate it and forgot to pay for it? ok , but any way u slice it - you didnt pay for it -whether u forgot or not . So walmart is going to arrest you. That is their right to do so . If it was simple teller error that she forgot to ring it in -it would have been cleared up in seconds and you would have paid for it and left. But YOU DIDNT TELL THE TELLER TO RING IT IN DID YOU?
Instead of humbly apologizing for your error or their error or whatever, you go on some holy rampage of some kind? -like YOU are the VICTIM somehow?
You see - real christians -you know - people who ACTUALLY FOLLOW CHRIST would be the first to admit their mistake even if it was not intended and do anything to make it up to walmart. why? because they treat others how they themselves would like to be treated.
If you arent guilty - you wouldnt be coming on here like u are getting 'jacked around' but instead , as a christian you WOULD BE PRAYING FOR WALMART to see the lignt -not wish Gods VENGANCE rain down upon from the heavens in PURE SPITE.
you spout out crap u read -but totally dont follow. Its obvious from your attitude you are self centered - you somehow 'speak for God' like you have the authority and know what he thinks.
You are a selfish guy feeling sorry for yourself and USING Gods name to drape yourself around in like a self righteous flag.
This to me says not only are you not a Christian -but if i was to be forced to make a choice either way - your attitude tells me you HAD NO INTENTION OF PAYING FOR THE FOOD YOU ATE.
Before you go pull more scams - wrap your head around this -
Real victims feel dumbfounded and sad and confused as they dont understand why they are being arrested for shoplifting cause they honestly cant see what they did wrong.
Con artists -GET MAD -when confronted as a defence mechanism because they have something to hide -which is what your holy crusade is all about - deflecting the truth away from the fact you ate this food and didnt pay for it.
so how bout u just pay walmart for the food you stole. In fact how about you renounce yourself and follow jesus -not just read shit and spout it out. The real you shows thru.
#64 Individual Responds
AUTHOR: Frank - North Brunswick (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, August 09, 2005
POSTED: Tuesday, August 09, 2005
For a moment, let us all stop insulting one another, and think for a second. I am reading a lot of pro-Wal-Mart rebuttals. Most of them have NOT read Todd's story in detail, and have spun out a different version of what he really said. Yes, Todd is fanatical at times. Nevertheless, it is not a common practice for a store to not give a customer his receipt back is it?
A lot of rebuttals from different people even went as far as stating that if the Walmart employee stated that she saw Todd shoplifting, Todd must be guilty. Are you guys really that blind? We have men executed in this country because of witnesses making false testimonies, only to find out the accused was innocent due to a DNA test conducted after the execution. Meanwhile, are we suppose to believe that there is absolutely no chance, that these Wal-Mart employees simply made a mistake! Rather than handing out an apology, and face a possible multi-million lawsuit, could it be possible that Wal-Mart, as a whole, decided to cover up the incident as much as it can?
Wal-Mart may have the best of intent to prevent shoplifting. It even has explicit rules that its employees are suppose to follow. But when a mistake happens, Wal-Mart also does an oustanding job to cover it. Why wouldn't they, it certainly make sense for them to do so to protect their image and wallet! However, when people condone these type of things to happen, both common citizens and those who were designated to protect the law, we have a real problem in our society.
It is funny that these pro Wal-Mart readers decided not to attack my story. I would love to see what kind of rebuttal they invent. It was posted in June of this year. Feel free to reply.
#65 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Robert - Jacksonville (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, August 10, 2005
POSTED: Wednesday, August 10, 2005
We all did read Todd's little tale of woe. That is why we know he's telling a good one. He admits he ate food without paying for it. That is STEALING. If he had waited to eat the food until AFTER he paid for it, he'd be fine. Noooooo. He had to chow down while wandering around Wally World. He claims he gave the cashier the empties at the register so he could then pay for the stuff. Riiiiight. You believe that one if you wish.
He dumped the empties wherever he was and hoped the store wouldn't know, figuring on them being swamped with more white trash than they could handle. It did not work as he pl;anned, and he was arrested. He was then sent to another county(jurisdiction) instead of the one he was arrested in. This is because he was WANTED in another county, probably for STEALING. I do not defend WalMart. I simply poke holes in someone's insane story that makes no sense.
Read my earlier explanation of the conspiracy theory for Dick in GA. Todd is guilty. If he's found not guilty, he will surely have no problem to post the docket number and all other pertinent info so it can be verified. People who have nothing to hide....as they say. He won't though. He'll be busy serving his sentences in at least two different counties and we won't hear anymore of his whining about religious persecution or framing for awhile.
#66 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Patricia - Blythewood (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, August 12, 2005
POSTED: Friday, August 12, 2005
Stay out of it Russell for Conway,SC. I have lived in Columbia, S.C. for over 4 years (wife of retired military) The cops here in South Carolina do whatever they want to and the state backs them up, and I am a woman of color! Wal-mart use to be my store until I read this article. This site has confirmed the negative stories I have heard about Wal-mart. That cop did it he knows he did and Wal-mart played a part in it. Get off the original author he is not lying about Wal-mart or South Caroina Police. Being ex-military and traveling all over the world South Carolina is the worse state ever and the judicial DOES not protect victims like original author, but will cover up the mess of a bad cop like the one who violated this consumer.
#67 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Todd - Columbia (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, August 27, 2005
POSTED: Saturday, August 27, 2005
Wow, what colorful responses to my postings. I had no idea when God directed me to make this posting that it would allow so many to be educated into the problems with false arrest.
I felt I needed to give an update to my posting since it has been some time since my last posting. Before I get into the update I would like to thank everyone for their posting, either good or bad. All have been helpful in the understand of how both angles could be relayed in my posting. For that, I would like to thank all of you. You took the effort to respond, and I am grateful.
With that said, let me clear the air on a few issues. Any of you that may know court proceedings and preparing for court, knows very well it could be client suicide to make a public statement or posting of the details of the case. That in itself should prove that what I said was the truth and direct facts of the events that happen to me. Why you may ask? Well, I felt I have nothing else to loose. I looked at the possibility that the corrupted court system would slam me down because of the mighty greed machine pumping the fraud and therefore I would never have a fair chance at justice. I did pray hard before making any posting and felt that God lead me to make the people aware of what is happening.
I can read by some of your postings, that the corrupt accounts happen to others are as true as my story. That makes me even more upset of this fact that others are suffering as me. This has to stop, we need to band together and take our country back. I am not saying we need to make laws violating other people rights. But our country was founded on the Christian moral laws such as, "Thou shall not steel", "Thou shall not murder", "Thou shall not lie", "Thou shall not commit adultery", and so on… These Devine Laws were written over four thousand years ago, and our secular laws written only two hundred years ago. One does not need to research hard to discover that many of country's foundations of laws are directly based on Devine Laws. So for most of us to sit back and allow our reconnection of Devine Laws to be eroded away is very disturbing to me. I have learned that in the state of South Carolina, within the court hearings and depositions, they do not even require you to swear to tell the truth, "So help you God". Instead they require you to swear on nothing. How can someone swear on nothing? That bogs my mind and is almost too funny to be reality. I am sure my ancestors that fought to found this country would be very upset and most likely would have never fought if they knew what this country is becoming. That peoples our just allowing the country's basic principles to be decayed into nothing more than swearing on nothing.
Another fact during the formation of our country, was the concern that the Supreme Court would have such powers as to outline and force the people to what they may think was the proper method of our land. The Supreme Court is appointed and once appointed answers to no one. At least our elected representatives can be impeached or replaced. The Supreme Court is there. I wonder how many of you knew this fact? As I recall, the first Supreme Court made a statement that he would only rule by the direction of the Devine Law (not his exact words, but the effect is there). I am sure he would be very upset at the ruling of the Supreme Court over the Ten Commandments.
Okay enough on the history lesson and my opinion, I am sure many of you our wondering the update of my case. Well, I have discovered that the corruption is very deep here in the South. So deep, that many claim to be Christians and or nothing more than liars. I am sure this is not just limited to the South, as many of you have dramatically detailed in your postings. What I am talking about, is I have discovered my former attorney has been leading me along and charging me large amounts of fees knowing very well the case is nothing. I even went out and hired my own private investigator that went into the Wal-Mart and took photographs of these bogus cameras, interviewed with Asst. Managers, and even ate some food at the "Open Deli" and asked (recorded) the Asst. Manager at the Deli, that it was okay to eat the food and pay later. The investigator went so far as to talk with the cashier (names, dates, all taken), where the cashier confirmed that this was okay. My attorney was outraged that I did this, but he was doing nothing to defend me. Matter of fact he wanted me to agree to a plea to admit to something I did not do. When I stated that it goes against my Christian Principles, even against persecution my former attorney responded, ""You got to forget your Christian Principles, that does not matter in a court of law"! I responded, "Our court of law is based on Devine Law!" I am now seeking a new attorney, so if there are any honest good ones out there, please respond and let me know your email address.
Also, here is a promise for all of you that attack my posting and still think I am guilty. If the court charges me, even against the facts, I will not be silent. I will continue to blow the whistle on this problem and other problems that I am exposing. I am very tired of all this wrongdoing going on and I am doing something about it. The only effective thing I know how to do at this point is public expose what is happening. Some can either believe me what I say, or not, that is your God given right. But please, stop posting such uneducated posting that some of you have posted. I would rather see educated postings, to try and resolve this problem, rather than try to destroy my caricature. I have no conviction, because I and Wal-Mart knows I never did what they claim I did. Believe it or not.
Oh and one other thing, those of you that attacked my faith and tried to make the argument that Christ was silent and never said anything. I can tell very well you know nothing of the scriptures. The books of the Holy Bible are full of false accusations of the prophets and followers of Christ. Are you trying to tell me the Christians that were ripped apart by Lions deserved it just because they would not worship the emperor of rome? Or what about the Christians that were burned at the stake because they would not worship an image of the pope during the dark ages? Or what about the Chinese Christians being gassed, shot, their whole family being raped in front of them because they would not worship the Chinese government, instead would worship God only. What do you have to say about that? Even Paul in the bible talks about the coppersmith that falsely accused him and had him put in prison. Paul even went so far as to list many of his trials and bad treatment, and then he states that the Lord rescued him from every one.
This Wal-Mart is not the first time I have been accused by the enemy. And by far is not the large beast I have fought. Every one the Lord gave me victory, and thus this Wal-mart case will be victorious. All Wal-Mart has to do is come clean and repent and work to better themselves instead of all this greed and lies they spread. One thing I have learned of God by reading His words, is He gives a sinner time to repent on their own, often a very long time (more than I can say about secular courts), and if they do not, then His face turns against them. I would rather not have God's anger against me, but rather His love.
Let me bring some light to you that God is real and what I say is very true. One thing the Bible teaches is a true Christian is to talk about prophesy, and if the person is a true Christian the prophesy will come true 100%. Now satan also does this, but his prophesy only happen about 50-75%. God's is the only 100%. All right, I am going to show you something that is going to just blow your mind and open your eyes to the wonderful and awesome truth that God and Jesus are real. Just by using my posting here, interestingly, that might be why God has allowed me this trial all along just to start this posting. Okay here we go. (Now keep in mind some of you may be to blind to understand what I am about to tell you, but just bare with me, it is awesome.)(It is so cool, I almost can not understanding it, but I do.)
Notice the date of my first posting? I was very upset, and I know I did ramble on a bit, just like I am doing now. But I do my best to express my thoughts, so forgive me if I am not clear enough. If you notice the first date of my posting, I also discovered right after that of another Christian that was being falsely accused and persecuted by Wal-Mart for shoplifting. The difference between his posting and mine, is I quoted scripture and the fact that God would not stand for this evil. Did you ever hear in the paper of the top CEO and son of Sam Walton dieing in a plane crash? Or did you here of the Federal investigation of other top CEO's frauding the workers of Wal-Mart? Using abusive tactics to prevent workers from joining a union, so Wal-Mart can keep them slaves? Or did you hear of Wal-Marts decline in the stock market? Or what about all these large law suits being filed against Wal-Mart and the top managers? I believe, that since my posting to inform (by the way, I did contact the head office and tell them of this posting, so they are well aware of what I am saying) Wal-Mart, and of their refusal to repent and make things right, God is punishing them just like He did the pharaoh of Egypt during Exodus.
It's that awesome! I do not know how much more real you can get than that.
So, let this posting be another Bench Mark to prove that God is real, and what I say is the truth. After this posting be watching the news and sooner or later you are going to hear of another major scam, lawsuit, or wrongdoing by Wal-Mart. And they are going to be in major trouble. It may even be an up rising against Wal-Mart in another country. I do not know what God may do, he has not told me so. But I know from the Bible He will do something.
Anyway, enough on that part for now. Again thank all of ya for your creative and colorful responses. That is the starting point for a better change, is the express yourselves. Next will be the legal actions of change. All we ever wanted was to live in peace and happiness. I suggest that all those wick, greedy people just go form your own country and live there. Or maybe lets all build them a spaceship and send them out to some far off planet and just leave us alone. Now that is an idea. Oh wait a minute, that is kind-of what God is going to do in Revelation. Get rid of all the wicked and leave us good folks to live in Peace and Happiness. All He is doing now is giving time for those to change from wickedness to righteousness, when all that has happen, then the cleaning up comes. Come Lord, please come. And may all of you have a Blessed day and I pray for everyone of ya to understand my posting and take a step in the light and out of the darkness.
PS. Pray I find a honest attorney. And Wal-Mart repents and makes things right. Thanks.
In Christ and Christ In Me,
#68 Update By Author
AUTHOR: Todd - Columbia (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, August 27, 2005
POSTED: Saturday, August 27, 2005
I just discovered the update section... next update I will use this method.
#69 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Tripp - Alpharetta (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, August 29, 2005
POSTED: Monday, August 29, 2005
it is a plot against Christians. I personally have attended ritual sacrifices at my local Alpharetta, Georgia, Wal-Mart, where we ate babies, drank the blood of Christians, and sacrificed goats. I think they even threw in a couple of chickens.
These sin-filled orgies of bloodlust and desire were organized by local Wal-Mart managers! The wholesome 'small-town America' Wal-Mart projects is a front to hide their true devious intentions -- the destruction of Christians, widespread availability of abortion, and homosexual marriages on every street corner!
Praise be to Satan! All hail our Master, Wal-Mart!
#70 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Robert - Jacksonville (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, August 29, 2005
POSTED: Monday, August 29, 2005
That's right, his own Attorney thinks he's guilty so he must be against Christians. What a load. Todd is going to have fun in prison.
#71 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Shari - Tacoma (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, August 29, 2005
POSTED: Monday, August 29, 2005
After reading several postings by everyone regarding this whole Wal Mart thing; it appalls me that Todd would keep stating that he is a 'devout Christian.' I am a Christian and go about my business everyday witnessing for Christ and showing others how Christ has changed my life. I don't do it pushy or in an offensive way. How Todd is acting is very foolish and has been offensive to many other people. He needs to leave this whole thing in God's hands and stop fighting it and let God fight it for him. That's the most simple way.
God said, "vengeance is mine saith the Lord." That says it plain and clear that God will take care of it. So, Todd, stop fighting this yourself and give God control. True Christians go about things in a much different manner than you have displayed here. It grieves me that you have gone this far to look and make yourself so foolish. You have put a bad name to Chrisitianity here. Let it go!
#72 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Stephen D - Victorville (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, August 30, 2005
POSTED: Tuesday, August 30, 2005
You are GUILTY, you are a THIEF! you were caught stealing and no court of law will find you innocent. perhaps next time you should actually pay for your items instead of trying to get it for free. god strikes down sinners like you. and christ has turned his back on you.
#73 Update By Author
AUTHOR: Todd - Columbia (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, August 30, 2005
POSTED: Tuesday, August 30, 2005
I can see by these last three postings so very twisted minds, that has not even read the Bible or what I posted. Read 1 and 2 Corinthians, The Acts, Hebrews, Mark and Luke, and well as others and you will discover that Paul and other Men/Women of God stood up to wrong-doing. And even shouted out what was going on. Your responses to me makes not merit as to decay my posting.
You judge me and what I say without even reading my words or what the truth of the Bible is. I do not even judge myself, except to the fact that I did not do what I have been accused of. I cannot stop the fact that I am a Christian and have that teaching reflected in my writings.
Here is a story for ya. A man goes to a store, the store has a open bar, eat first pay later. Man gets food, and then packs up other items to pay for. Man goes to cashier, hands everything to cashier and PAYS!!! Then store arrest man and tells him he stole the food without paying. But the man provides the pay stub, and tells the story what happen. Store refuses to listen and send the man to jail and threatens to send the man's whole family to jail. Man fights the problem. So agree and assist. Some are nasty and try to justify the store. Man's life is on the line for a falsified $12/13, store will cause man to suffer for the rest of his life for something the man never did.
Now do you still think the man is wrong to post what happen an express his beliefs.
Here's the truth in these past three responses. If I never wrote the word, "Christian" you would agree to my posting and not have a problem. And I feel that is the hang-up on your responses, because you go off on me and your statements never talk about the rest of my posting. If you read my posting in detail. I tell the story and I reflect my Christian reasoning. I do not know how much more clear I can be.
Interestingly, my posting has caused many people to wake up to what is happening and stopped shopping at the store. I am hoping and praying that the store repent and make things right. I have been wronged by them and they know it. If you can not see the light, then you are nothing more than the blind leading the blind. And you worship the Lord in Vain.
#74 Consumer Suggestion
AUTHOR: Ken - Lexington (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, August 30, 2005
POSTED: Tuesday, August 30, 2005
I agree with Shari's thoughts above. This issue is really very simple, If you didn't pay for the food, then you are guilty. If you did pay for it, then you are innocent.... Plain and Simple. The only part of Shari's thoughts that I didn't totally agree with was the part about leaving it in God's hands..... I would suggest that you leave it in your Attorney's hands (being that this is a Legal issue, and not a Religious one).
#75 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Dale - Vancouver (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, August 30, 2005
POSTED: Tuesday, August 30, 2005
I believe there is "some" truth to the original posters comments. However, I have information that this person would not like to be known to the people posting here.
The fact is, the original poster did consume food before paying. Truth is the original poster did take the packages with bar codes to the register.
What the original poster is omitting is that some of the items (not all) were disposed of in a trash container hidden in napkins. This is likely a common practice for this person. They were seen to consume food and pay for items. However, this day the subject was observed from the time they picked up the food until checkout time.
Claiming to be a Christain and devoted to God has worked for this individual in the past, so this defense is the only one they can use.
It's too late for the original poster to come clean for this forum. He has dug his own grave. I would bet money that he even believes what he is claiming. Practice makes perfect right?
Don't waste your time on such a skilled liar. Wal-Mart is NOT against Christians but they must protect themselves from skilled con artists and shoplifters. If the original poster owned their own business that was losing money to these thieves, I'm sure he would prosecute ANYONE caught (not suspected) of stealing.
Eating food and not paying for it is stealing. Throwing away the container wrapped in napkins to conceal the crime is his method. If the orignal poster TRUELY believes in God, he will repent his sins and accept his punishment. God KNOWS the TRUTH, and now all you you do too. See you in court!
#76 Update By Author
AUTHOR: Todd - Columbia (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, August 30, 2005
POSTED: Tuesday, August 30, 2005
"container wrapped in napkins"! Where did this come from? What a liar! As I have said, most likely I will never have a chance against the big-bad Wal-Mart, because they own the police and the courts. What I do have is my voice, and you can never stop that.
If my words where not the truth, then why do you respond to my posting? Hmmmm... Because you know there are millions of people reading my post and that are taking action not shopping at your evil store anymore. Checked your stock prices lately?
And what about your top CEOs frauding the hard workers? Are you saying that is a lie too.
You can drum up a 100 people in the store to bend the truth if you wish, frankly I do not care. I know my Lord will take care of me. I pray for you, for His wrath will come hard against you. Do you see the warning signs already?
Oh, what about that 61 year old you accused of the same thing and you kept her in the jail until she died. Didn't her family win $111 million against your company. Are you going to post and state here that I am lying about that to?
Shame on you people for what you are doing to people.
Oh, that reminds me, where is the video tape? I have read a letter from your HQ that there is no video tape. I bet there is a video tape and it shows me giving everything to the cashier and PAYING!!! You hide that because it shows how evil you really are.
See me in court? This is no true court of law, this is an execution of good folks. I use to spend about $600 per month in your stores. My family and friends I know use to spend about $10,000 per month in your stores. And since they know the truth of what you evil company did to me, you have lost that money. That is over $100,000 per year. Oach! That must hurt. Does not make business correct to accuse a customer over a $11 (oh wait you keep changing the price, last I checked you now say I owe $14)... So which is it, $11, 12, 13, or 14? Don't really know do you? First rule in any investigation is know your facts before you accuse someone. My arrest warrant says $12, but what you gave my attorney was $14. Plus on the document it states, "Not a real receipt, training only". Plus lets talk about tampering with evidence. Ummm... Sounds like a setup to me.
Direct violation of "Due Process", and a "Fair Trial".
So go ahead do the worse evil you can do, if you dare, I am not scared of you or your wicked homies. I will continue to post, I will continue to make my voice known. The story will be heard.
Oh, and just wait and see what God is going to do to you.
Another thing. Want to talk about who the real theft is. I remember returning some items I paid $30 for and your store would not refund me the same price, instead your store only gave me $5. That in itself would justify any mistake I may have made, if I ever made a mistake.
Your store sucks and is very wrong how you treat people. One thing I learned in that jail was, many of your employees are known criminals and the manager of that store is liked and good friends with the punks in that jail. Is there something wrong here? If the Lord gives me the resources I will expose this evil all over the country. I do not need to take anything, I pay for everything.
I live by my Christian life and have a Ten Commandment tablet in my front yard, so get off my back. What you hate the most is the word "Christian", that is what gets your goat the most. I think it will be so funny that God places the entire jury as Christians that have had clashes with your company in the past. And they know first hand of your wickedness. That would be funny. And actually that is happening in other cases. Is it true that Wal-Mart has lost over $1 Billion in false arrest and false imprisonment cases? Why don't you tell the truth on that one. If my case is rare and you say I am not telling the truth, then explain that you evil person! Your greed has blinded you to the facts.
So go ahead, post what you will. Do to me what you will. I am not scared of what you may do to my body, past Christian suffered a whole lot more than what you can through at me, you should rather be scared of who can kill your soul! This will not be the death of me, and if God willing, I will let the public know what you and your evil company are doing. I know you have your brain-dead homeboy'z post insulting remarks and attack my posting. But you are to blind to read what I am saying or what good folks are saying. My situation is not the only case of this wickedness you are doing. The public are not blind. Tell me, is there any whistleblowing of your stores "cooking the books"? Or using "Children as slaves"? Or not paying workers properly, rather than make then work long hours without pay? Or hirer sexslaves? Oh, you did not know I know all of this, hmmmm... I may be injured, but I can do some serious research and I have resources you have no idea I have. You may win the first battle by paying off the court, but you will not win the war. That is a promise.
If you know so much, and all these so-called witnesses, then post here the details of what they are claiming, "omitting is that some of the items (not all) were disposed of in a trash container hidden in napkins".
You are so full of it.
#77 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Stephen D - Victorville (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, August 30, 2005
POSTED: Tuesday, August 30, 2005
I wonder if "god" is the ONLY voice he hears in his head
you are not christian, you are pretending to be christian do you arent sent to hell. its just like the death row convict saying hes found god, he hasnt found god hes just trying a last ditch effort to avoid hell.
you are a thief and a liar. Honestly Wal-mart doesnt need your theiving money. you arent the reason the stock is going down, it can be most attributed to the rising gas prices.
lets hope they throw this looney tune in jail so we dont have to hear his nonsense.
#78 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Shari - Tacoma (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, August 30, 2005
POSTED: Tuesday, August 30, 2005
Todd, it seems as if you are angry with your last posting. Christians don't tell others they are "full of it." Everything is so twisted up here it's not even funny. Todd, let this go! And might I remind you, Wal Mart will NEVER repent as they are a makeup of thousands of people and workers. They are not one single person. You are asking thousands to repent of something they aren't guilty of. Only a few are at the store you shopped at (and I think they are guilty of nothing. You are!). And your family and friends spending $10,000 a month there is some made up ridiculous number! Get real! I am suspicious now that you are guilty. You are fighting too much with your words. If you were innocent you would let it go and not be so defensive. Maybe all of this hullaballoo has to do with that 'anxiety disorder' you were talking about. You are obsessed with this whole thing. Have you been also diagnosed with Obsessive Compulsive Disorder? If you haven't. See your psychiatrist today. He may help you get it under control!
#79 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: David - Gallatin (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, August 31, 2005
POSTED: Wednesday, August 31, 2005
Todd
That's 288 BILLION DOLLARS in gross sales. I doubt the $100,000 they lose from you and your friends will cause them much concern.
Im not a big Wal-mart fan either but you need to be realistic about your situation and quit using religion to mask the fact that your're a petty shoplifter who got caught.
#80 Consumer Suggestion
AUTHOR: Dale - Vancouver (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, August 31, 2005
POSTED: Wednesday, August 31, 2005
...filled with half truths and inconsistencies. You make no sense. You think you can bring down Wal-Mart? Then you are also disillusioned. You were caught doing something illegal and you want to blame others. This is not a conspiracy against Christians or minorities. How dare you to even suggest it. You are not a Christian, you bear no fruit. You might have convinced others in your life that as a Christian, it is not possible for you to commit this crime...
However, the wise people here are smart enough to know better. I am really surprised you keep coming back as you have virtually no support here.
Is Wal-mart always right? No one is saying that. Is Wal-Mart perfect? Not even close. Is Wal-Mart evil? Not to the millions that shop there everyday and continue to come back. I'm sure if there was such a "perfect" place, Wal-Mart would be out of business.
It would appear you feel justified to steal from Wal-Mart because you feel they ripped you off on an exchange? Why did you go back unless it was to "even the score". Bottom line is YOU GOT CAUGHT. They don't need to look at the receipt, the evidence was retrieved from the garbage can and you know it. How do you explain that? How do you expect any support? Because you are a Christian? A Christian that bears no fruit? Seems to me, people like that have other labels and our prisons (and some churches) are filled with them.
#81 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Dustin - Wilmington (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, August 31, 2005
POSTED: Wednesday, August 31, 2005
Question: I see that it has been over 4 months (seems like a long time to wait to see a judge for shoplifting) since this incident occured, and I was wondering when you would be attending court so we could get an update on your case.
Comment: The good news is that you will no longer be shopping at Wal-Mart. Welcome to the club!! I think you are a bit off-base with your point of view, but whatever it takes! Thank you for your protest against Wal-Mart, and for supporting small businesses that the owner knows your name and will appreciate the $600 a month you keep in your local economy. You have to think of each dollar you have as a Vote, and where you spend it is what you are voting for. So, please keep voting for your local business owners, they'll love you for it.
#82 Update By Author
AUTHOR: Todd - Columbia (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, August 31, 2005
POSTED: Wednesday, August 31, 2005
First of all, if I am so guilty as you claim that I am. Why are you even responding to my post? Why? I'll tell you why, because you know I am correct that Wal-mart has done me wrong and you are doing your best to try and lead the people to your wickedness.
Second, you do not even know me or my heart, so how could you judge me on that matter. All someone has to do is go to findlaw.com and run a search on Wal-mart and they can see for themselves. Plus there is another website wal-martlitigation.com which also outlines multiple cases where Wal-Mart has done evil. Read the one about the lady that died in jail and where the family won $111 million. There is other resources as well. Should I continue to list them? I am willing to bet you are part of the Wal-mart train, destroying peoples lives, refusing proper justice, delaying rightiousness. But as I have said many times, God knows what is happening and He will take care of it.
Third, you are so wrong to state, "You are not a Christian". I am sure you do not even know the actual formation of the word.
At least I know that when the Lord returns there will be proper justice, no scamming from attorneys when that happens.
#83 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Denny - Honolulu (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, August 31, 2005
POSTED: Wednesday, August 31, 2005
...then I'll be happy to shop with them.
but if they can't compete, then too bad.
#84 Consumer Suggestion
AUTHOR: Steve - Tucson (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, August 31, 2005
POSTED: Wednesday, August 31, 2005
If God can forgive him, why can't Wal-Mart? All we have to do is scream "I'm a Christian" and we can do whatever we want because God has forgiven us, and if someone can't forgive whom God has forgiven, then that person deserves to BURN IN HELL!!!
Rob a bank? God forgives you. Keep the money.
Kill someone recently? God forgives you, so you can do it again and get forgiven again.
After all, if Jesus can get crucified between two thieves, he should have no problem welcoming a few more thieves into heaven. Todd, He's waiting for you.
#85 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Robert - Jacksonville (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, August 31, 2005
POSTED: Wednesday, August 31, 2005
All I have to do is sell garbage instead of quality. Instead, I choose to do quality work so I sell good parts. It works this way in nearly all small businesses. Want a good pizza? Go to the big chains. Want a GREAT pizza? Go to the little guy who needs word of moth advertising to draw the crowds. Works this way for all small businesses.
#86 Consumer Suggestion
AUTHOR: Dustin - Wilmington (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, August 31, 2005
POSTED: Wednesday, August 31, 2005
I'm sorry you don't see the BIG picture about why the prices are so low and how come you need them to be. Chances are, you need the low prices because you have a low income (not to imply you are poor or uneducated or anythng else...after all i don't know you), and you have a low income because there are limited jobs available to you. There are limited jobs because the businesses (manufacturing, wholesale and retail) that used to exsist in your area and mine and everyone's for that matter, don't exist anymore because of places like Wal-Mart.
The advantage to Wal-Mart is that they offer low prices. We all need low prices. Who doesn't like to save money?
The disadvantage is, that you wouldn't need prices so low if you had a better paying job (again,this is NOT an insult - simply an assertion that WE ALL need better paying jobs), and you (WE) would have a better paying job, or at least a chance at a better job, if there were a greater number of merchants, manufactures, and wholesalers in this country that weren't put out of business by places like Wal-Mart.
I argue that, at some point, shopping at places like Wal-Mart is at your (our) own peril. I think that at some point you realize you are feeding the beast that is eating you and you (WE) have to break the cycle.
So, that's my $0.02.
#87 Consumer Suggestion
AUTHOR: Jim - Mobile (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, August 31, 2005
POSTED: Wednesday, August 31, 2005
I have run my own business, I can tell you that the people (Of any sex, color, religion) who loudly provlaim GOD IS ON MY SIDE are the biggest thieves I have ever had to work with.
After a short time I started looking at the cars brought to me for repair, if any vehicle had an open bible on the seat, or prominently displayed , say on the dashboard.That person tried to cheat me every single time.
It got so bad that whenever a "Bible Car" came in, I told them I coulden't work on their car.
Cut the stealing down 80%.
Lesson, the louder "GOD" is named, the bigger the thief.
#88 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Dale - Vancouver (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, September 01, 2005
POSTED: Thursday, September 01, 2005
I do NOT work for Wal-Mart nor do I know anyone that works for Wal-Mart. I DO shop there occasionally as they have what I want at a price I feel is reasonable. I find things I need for my business at Wal-Mart that I cannot find at any other establishments in my local economy.
As I stated earlier, I don't believe that Wal-Mart is evil or against Christians or minorities. You will never be able to convince me otherwise so save your breath. I believe, like any large business, that some of their employees may not be the smartest or most professional. You will find that type of individual EVERYWHERE. Wal-Mart does not hold exclusive rights to this flaw.
I have a relative that knows the details in this case. He's not a Wal-Mart employee nor is he in law enforcement. He's a public defender and has researched and found the specifics in this case. Your arrest record is public information.
We all must face our accusers if we are charged with a crime. Most crinimals were not caught on their first "Devils work". The same is true for you. You've shoplifted before and got away with it. This time you got caught. How dare you try and turn this back on me. Be a man and accept your punishment. Only other criminals will sympathize with you. BIG EVIL WAL-MART? Not even close. I have never had an issue shopping there or anywhere. But then again I pay for what take with me. It's really painless when you follow the rules of society and the law.
#89 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Denny - Honolulu (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, September 01, 2005
POSTED: Thursday, September 01, 2005
*****All I have to do is sell garbage instead of quality. Instead, I choose to do quality work so I sell good parts.*****
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so what makes at $249 digital Camera made by Sony sold at Walmart, different from the $300 digital Camera (same model) made by Sony garbage?
Except that WalMart is willling to sell it $50 cheaper than the "mom and pop" store?
Same model and brand, got good reviews by consumers.
If you think that the only thing that are sold at WalMart garbage, you haven't shopped there in a long while.
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*****It works this way in nearly all small businesses. Want a good pizza? Go to the big chains. Want a GREAT pizza? Go to the little guy who needs word of moth advertising to draw the crowds. Works this way for all small businesses.******
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Funny, a great pizza is the one I make at home. No store can make a great pizza.
And I buy my ingredients from a super WalMart or Safeway.
And no, NOT all small businesses work that way. I know of some really bad small businesses that shouldn't even be open because of their bad products and services.
#90 Consumer Suggestion
AUTHOR: Denny - Honolulu (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, September 01, 2005
POSTED: Thursday, September 01, 2005
dustin, you say you aren't posting to insult, but you are.
Im not low income
Im not poor.
I just know when I see a low price for something I need or want, I will go to a place that has the best deal.
IF WalMart has it, then so be it. If mom and pop cant handle it, its not my problem.
I earn a 6 figure salary, own my own home in one of hte most expensive states in the union to live in. Yet I know a good deal when I see one.
Yes I shop at WalMart, why? cause until i see lower prices at other stores, I just can't see spending $5 more for an item that costs less at WM.
Dont like it? Too bad. I see WM as a business out to make money. Who isn't? That's their goal. If they prices things lower that makes them the best profit, then that's the way things are.
Dont like it? Go live in the Ukraine or anothe country. Because all businesses are out there to "make money."
I live in a state that doesn't do its own manufacturing of ANYTHING. We are only known for our pineapples, sugar Cane, tourism, and Kona Coffee , where the first two are already handled better in other countries. We import everything, so that means if WalMART is the best place to get the best prices, you bet your bottom dollar that I'll be shopping there.
#91 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Robert - Rochester (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, September 01, 2005
POSTED: Thursday, September 01, 2005
Are we STILL beating this dead horse???
I can picture all of us... 50 years from now, still listening to Todd rant about how persecuted he was by the evil Wally Mart corporation..
But then, what would I do for a laugh!
#92 Update By Author
AUTHOR: Todd - Columbia (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, September 01, 2005
POSTED: Thursday, September 01, 2005
Just look at these latest responses! What anger, what judgmental positions, and yet these know nothing of the subject or even care of the truth. Your blindness puts me at awe every time I read your words. Still over two thousand years there are still seeds of Cain living, ready to kill someone of truth.
I do not respond for you to understand, because I can see by your words you are very stiff-necked and never ready to understand. So, I will post for those that are caring and ready to listen. I have some scripture for you good folks. But before I do that let me tell a story, as many of you good folks know Jesus often told stories in order to assist people to understand. Here goes the story:
A man was walking down the street and entered his home. Later the police arrived and put the man under arrest. When the man asked why, he was never given an answer. If was just told that he was wanted for many outstanding crimes. Later when the man did get out on bond, the man discovered that his neighbor that he often spent joyful time with had turned against him and told the police this man was a neighborhood thief. The evil neighbor even got other neighbors to be witnesses against the good man. The evil neighbor hid some items from their home in order to make their case known. But the good man never did anything, but was true. The evil neighbor had the city take the good man to court and presented to the court all the lies. The evil neighbor went so far as to pay the judge so to make sure the good man went down. The good man thought he had no one to help, except his little book. The good man read his little book, over and over again. The good man knew this little book was his answer to his troubles. The little book told the good man to pray. The good man prayed and gave praise. The good man even prayed for the evil neighbor and all who had come against him, for the good man was humble in his ways. The little book told the good man not to worry, for his troubles will be over and he will win. The good man had the faith in what the little book said. And in the end, the good man won. But sadly the evil neighbor never repented and was struck down with a terrible illness, in as much that the evil neighbor died. The good man was not happy that he won and a terrible punishment had come against the evil neighbor. Rather the good man was glade that his faith stood firm on the words of the little book. Because of the faith of the good man, he was blessed double of his losses from the beginning of the troubles the evil neighbor started. Do you know what the little book was that the good man was reading?
Here is the scriptures that support the story above:
"Save me, O God, by thy name, and judge me by thy strength. Hear my prayer, O God; give ear to the words of my mouth. For strangers are risen up against me, and oppressors seek after my soul: they have not set God before them. Selah. Behold, God is mine helper: the Lord is with them that uphold my soul. He shall reward evil unto mine enemies: cut them off in thy truth. I will freely sacrifice unto thee: I will praise thy name, O LORD; for it is good. For he hath delivered me out of all trouble: and mine eye hath seen his desire upon mine enemies" (Psalms 54, KJV).
Those wicked people that continue to mock me and the words I use from the Lord, be careful, for you mock Him. I am not perfect and I never said I was, but I never did this crime, I am accused falsely, and the Lord knows the truth of the matter. You will see, victory will be the Lords. I am not scared of any man-made court! But you better be scared of the Lord's court, for He knows your heart and will bring judgment against thee wicked.
Hear is the scripture for you:
"Why boastest thou thyself in mischief, O mighty man? the goodness of God endureth continually. The tongue deviseth mischiefs; like a sharp razor, working deceitfully. Thou lovest evil more than good; and lying rather than to speak righteousness. Selah. Thou lovest all devouring words, O thou deceitful tongue. God shall likewise destroy thee for ever, he shall take thee away, and pluck thee out of thy dwelling place, and root thee out of the land of the living. Selah. The righteous also shall see, and fear, and shall laugh at him: Lo, this is the man that made not God his strength; but trusted in the abundance of his riches, and strengthened himself in his wickedness. But I am like a green olive tree in the house of God: I trust in the mercy of God forever and ever. I will praise thee forever, because thou hast done it: and I will wait on thy name; for it is good before thy saints" (Psalms 52, KJV).
I tell you a truth. About two years ago I was talking to my sister and told her that if New Orleans with all their satan worship and voo doo demon lovers, God will bring on the worse storm ever and completely destroy them. And that will be the warning for this country to either bring this country back to Him, or suffer further punishment.
The scripture above supports that. Believe it or not, it does not matter. I tell you another prophecy so you will remember these words. The next punishment will be either Las Vegas (for their sin runs deep), or the state of California, I am not sure if it will be the entire state of multiple cities. But there will be punishment for their sin against the Lord. Call me crazy if you wish, but the truth still remains. Keep in mind they called Jesus crazy when he told them, See this building, how great it is, I tell you the truth, not one stone will be on another"!
I will pray for you and hope you repent before judgement comes against you. And all of those who know I speak the truth and have supported my posting, may the Lord bless you this day. For I know the Lord allowed this trouble to happen so I would bring Him glory. I am sure even these words will not stop the wicked from posting aggressively against this post, let them come. And let their words be their undoing. I know the truth and I know the Lord will help me and I will glorify Him!
Blessings,
#93 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Denny - Honolulu (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, September 02, 2005
POSTED: Friday, September 02, 2005
Again, Tood this whole situation isn't about you being a Christian ( that is debatable however ), or that you think you're a "good person" ( also debatable ), but that you stole food, didn't pay for it, and WalMart saw to it to have you arrested for that crime.
Black and white.
You ate a sandwhich without paying for it, so WalMart felt you were a shoplifter.
So they called the police on you, and they took you to another county (not WalMart's problem).
Business is business. No amount of "scripture" or "praying" or your trying to forget the truth ( that is the fact you stole a sandwhich ), will change that fact.
The courts do not rely on scripture or praying. They rely on evidence and facts. God has no place in the court system, and he shouldn't even be brought up in the first place.
You do realize that many "Christians" own a good amount of stock in WalMart. So what does that say about them? Then again, many atheists, budhists, taoists, catholics, jewish, and other relgious belivers do own stock in the big Wally World coroporation.
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Just look at these latest responses! What anger, what judgmental positions, and yet these know nothing of the subject or even care of the truth. Your blindness puts me at awe every time I read your words. Still over two thousand years there are still seeds of Cain living, ready to kill someone of truth.
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Truth is , you're the one that is blind here, Tood. What we call this post is "the pot calling the kettle black."
You have "anger" written throughout all your responses.
You have judgemental reasonings throughout all your responses.
And Cain has nothing to do with the fact that you stole.
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I do not respond for you to understand, because I can see by your words you are very stiff-necked and never ready to understand.
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Pot calling the kettle black again, Todd.
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So, I will post for those that are caring and ready to listen.
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Save your scriptures for people who actually care, that means, for the church.
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I tell you a truth. About two years ago I was talking to my sister and told her that if New Orleans with all their satan worship and voo doo demon lovers, God will bring on the worse storm ever and completely destroy them. And that will be the warning for this country to either bring this country back to Him, or suffer further punishment. The scripture above supports that. Believe it or not, it does not matter. I tell you another prophecy so you will remember these words. The next punishment will be either Las Vegas (for their sin runs deep), or the state of California, I am not sure if it will be the entire state of multiple cities. But there will be punishment for their sin against the Lord. Call me crazy if you wish, but the truth still remains. Keep in mind they called Jesus crazy when he told them, See this building, how great it is, I tell you the truth, not one stone will be on another"!
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and here you go again, think that God will act on your behalf, and ot use the situation that has happend in the GULF because of Katrina, to base your argument on is the SIGN of a sick and twisted individual. NO TRUE christian will wish harm upon anyone, no matter their beliefs. What happened there is nothing more than a catastrophe, and shouldn't be used as a basis for your personal agendas.
You've shown through your respones that you are not a true Christian, but someone who is vindictive, mean, cruel, relentless, unkind, and now a thief.
#94 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Dustin - Wilmington (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, September 02, 2005
POSTED: Friday, September 02, 2005
"There can be no doubt—"said K., quite softly, for he was elated by the breathless attention of the meeting; in that stillness a subdued hum was audible which was more exciting than the wildest applause—"there can be no doubt that behind all the actions of this court of justice, that is to say in my case, behind my arrest and today's interrogation, there is a great organization at work. An organization which not only employs corrupt warders, oafish Inspectors, and Examining Magistrates of whom the best that can be said is that they recognize their own limitations, but also has at its disposal a judicial hierarchy of high, indeed of the highest rank, with an indispensable and numerous retinue of servants, clerks, police, and other assistants, perhaps even hangmen, I do not shrink from that word. And the significance of this great organization, gentlemen? It consists in this, that innocent persons are accused of guilt, and senseless proceedings are put in motion against them..."
The Trial
Franz Kafka
oh yeah ...from the publisher...a short description of your- er THE Book.
A terrifying psychological trip into the life of one Joseph K., an ordinary man who wakes up one day to find himself accused of a crime he did not commit, a crime whose nature is never revealed to him. Once arrested, he is released, but must report to court on a regular basis--an event that proves maddening, as nothing is ever resolved. As he grows more uncertain of his fate, his personal life--including work at a bank and his relations with his landlady and a young woman who lives next door--becomes increasingly unpredictable. As K. tries to gain control, he succeeds only in accelerating his own excruciating downward spiral.
Todd - Your story sound a bit like you have re-stated Franz Kafka's "the trial"...You should note that very last part of the description. If you can find a copy of this at your LOCAL bookstore (because I can't imagine wal-mart carries this classic book) I would highly recommend this seccular work to you.
Danny - i'm glad to hear of your material accomplishments. I'm saddend that your perception is such that you felt insulted. I imagine though, that you don't let your feelings get in the way of achieving your 6 figures and low prices,so please sir, I employ you not to take a pejorative with me, I'm no threat to your priorities.
#95 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Todd - Columbia (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, September 02, 2005
POSTED: Friday, September 02, 2005
Dustin,
Very educated and interesting response. These are the types of responses I would like to read. Rather you agree with my posting or not, if it is educated in a manner to communicate and try to resolve the issues, I would rather enjoy that then the whole situation put together. I know I am full of Christian faith and often implement my writing with scriptural teachings. And yes often times I ramble on and lead off subject, but other times I am on key. Your posting blew me away, because most are just personal attacks against me and sometimes I attack back. But I would rather be humble of the entire issue and discuss the problem. I found another posting the other night of a man that was falsly accused in front of his children. He did not use the Christian word and many responded positively to his post. There were a few tighties, but his posts were good. Not as colorful as mine, I am tending to think mine has got to be the longest thread here.
I did not know my description reflected a prior historic ligature, such as the one you suggested, "Franz Kafka's (the trial)". I will try to discover it on Amazon or Walden books, where I have an account. I just tried to tell a story that best described my situation that the reader maybe able to understand. I am excited that you liked it and made a recommendation.
I have one for you if you are interested.
Have you ever read Douglas Walton, Informal Logic, Critical Argumentation? "It might be that nobody has ever disproved the existence of God, but it does not follow that it is impossible to prove it" (Walton, 1989, p.44).
Many of the aggressive responses to my post are plagued with fallacies of personal attacks. Walton states: "personal attack is inherently dangerous and emotional in argument, and is rightly associated with fallacies and deceptive tactics of argumentation" (Walton, 1989, p. 134).
I also enjoy Walton's statement: "Good scientific method is based on the idea of reproducible evidence. In other words, it is better to do an experiment yourself rather than rely on the say-so of someone else who has done it and claimed certain results" (Walton, 1989, p.174-175).
This statement describes my research on discovering the truth in my faith. I tested many elements of what the Bible said based on experiences and historic facts to reach my conclusion of my belief.
I also researched the Wal-mart situation and discovered the disturbing relationships with other people that have had a similar encounter with this store. Therefore, I blended in my first posting the emotions, feelings, and what facts I could discover the formatted the post. Mixed into that mixture was my Biblical understanding as well. Some agreed and some did not. But I would rather read an educated response such as your latest one that really brings to the table the issue rather than pinpointing my Biblical statements.
Anyway, thanks for your posting.
#96 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Dustin - Wilmington (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, September 03, 2005
POSTED: Saturday, September 03, 2005
Denny-
Sorry about the previous misnomer.
"dustin, you say you aren't posting to insult, but you are."
I can respect your right to your opinion. I hope you can do me the same turn.
"Im not low income
Im not poor.
I just know when I see a low price for something I need or want, I will go to a place that has the best deal."
I'm glad to hear of your success. Did you know that your income is greater than 84.5% of your fellow statesmen? Only 16.5% of Hawaiians enjoy the extravagant lifestyle that you do.
"IF WalMart has it, then so be it. If mom and pop cant handle it, its not my problem. "
I suppose this would be a good philosophy for me too if I didn't have a Mom & Pop. Also, I guess the 28.6% of the people in your state who aren't employed by corporations are glad to see that you are doing everything in your power to get their numbers down.
"I earn a 6 figure salary, own my own home in one of hte most expensive states in the union to live in. Yet I know a good deal when I see one."
Uh, you mean a good deal for YOU, Denny. I suppose though when you and the other 70.9% of the corporate employees in Hawaii pay the highest tax rate in the country, you can get pretty bitter about paying for all those people needing all those government handouts when they could be working ...somewhere. I suppose a 6 figure salry gets a pretty good tax on it huh? But who cares about those 126,154 people there in Hawaii who live in poverty. They should get a job right? I hear Wal-Mart pays a hefty $19,000 per year to its employees. Always Low Wages, Always.
"Yes I shop at WalMart, why? cause until i see lower prices at other stores, I just can't see spending $5 more for an item that costs less at WM."
What you don't see, is that the money you give wal mart goes back to the corporate HQ in Bentonville,AK and if you've never been to AK, I can tell you, it ain't going into their economy either. So, where does it go? Well, it goes to its former vice chairman, Tom Coughlin. To the tune of $500,000 through expense account abuse. Guess old Tom knows a good deal when HE sees one too. And I'll bet he wasn't making $19,000 a year. 'Cause if he was I'd say good for him.
"Dont like it? Too bad. I see WM as a business out to make money. Who isn't? That's their goal. If they prices things lower that makes them the best profit, then that's the way things are."
Ahh, yes. Profit. Mom & Pop are out to make a profit too. In order to feed their children so they can go to school without hunger and learn to be the Doctors and Lawyers who will assit you through your future days of dealing with class action lawsuits against Merck and other multinationals that are making the "best profit" and have left you victim to a stroke, heartattack or worse dead in the name of their "goal". I say "Make the money" - please we're all capitalist here. That isn't the point. The point is. At what cost? Not only do individuals have a responsibility to each other, so do the faceless multinationals. America has zero social capital. We could stand to build up a bit.
"Dont like it? Go live in the Ukraine or anothe country. Because all businesses are out there to "make money.""
Wow, what an incredibly witty retort. You see, I live in this country because I don't like "it", AND I have the power to do something about "it". Your response makes me think of poor Rosa Parks. Would you have told her if she didn't like the back of the bus then she should move to the Ukraine? Maybe not. But she didn't like it, AND she exercised her power that all Americans are granted, the power to change "it". I'm no Rosa Parks, but we all have this very same power to change "it".
"I live in a state that doesn't do its own manufacturing of ANYTHING. We are only known for our pineapples, sugar Cane, tourism, and Kona Coffee , where the first two are already handled better in other countries. We import everything, so that means if WalMART is the best place to get the best prices, you bet your bottom dollar that I'll be shopping there."
Actually, your manufacturing industry comprises 3.5% of your industry there. Agriculture, forestry, fishing and hunting, and mining combined constitute only 2.3%. Educational, health and social services comprise 19% and Arts, entertainment, recreation, accommodation and food services make up 16% but, most notably, Retail trade comprises 12.2%. Wal-Mart is Not a Business, It's An Economic Disease.
#97 Update By Author
AUTHOR: Todd - Columbia (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, September 04, 2005
POSTED: Sunday, September 04, 2005
Hi Folks!
I wanted to give you a update to some discoveries that I have just found out. In reference to my earlier posting that God will reveal the truth and punish Wal-Mart, of the evils they are doing against people. Some of you will refuse this posting and call me crazy, frankly I do not care what you call me, but many others know I speak the truth and will be at awe at what I am about to tell you. My posting on the 27Aug2005 stated:
"… is I quoted scripture and the fact that God would not stand for this evil. Did you ever hear in the paper of the top CEO and son of Sam Walton dieing in a plane crash? Or did you here of the Federal investigation of other top CEO's frauding the workers of Wal-Mart? Using abusive tactics to prevent workers from joining a union, so Wal-Mart can keep them slaves? Or did you hear of Wal-Marts decline in the stock market? Or what about all these large law suits being filed against Wal-Mart and the top managers? I believe, that since my posting to inform (by the way, I did contact the head office and tell them of this posting, so they are well aware of what I am saying) Wal-Mart, and of their refusal to repent and make things right, God is punishing them just like He did the pharaoh of Egypt during Exodus. It's that awesome! I do not know how much more real you can get than that.
So, let this posting be another Bench Mark to prove that God is real, and what I say is the truth. After this posting be watching the news and sooner or later you are going to hear of another major scam, lawsuit, or wrongdoing by Wal-Mart. And they are going to be in major trouble. It may even be an up rising against Wal-Mart in another country. I do not know what God may do, he has not told me so. But I know from the Bible He will do something" (Ripoffreport.com posting 27Aug2005).
Please read how the Prophecy has come true. Keep in mind God just allowed me to discover the results on 4Sep2005! In Houston Texas: "Walmart Kills Houston Man for Shoplifting" (http://houston.indymedia.org/news/2005/08/42397.php ,Tuesday, Aug. 23, 2005):
Walmart Kills Houston Man for Shoplifting
by x Tuesday, Aug. 23, 2005 at 11:59 AM
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(http://houston.indymedia.org/news/2005/08/42397.php )
Walmart Kills Houston Man for Shoplifting
by Always low prices! Saturday August 20, 2005 at 03:44 PM
Wal-Mart loss prevention workers tackled a man suspected of stealing diapers - a new father with a two month old child - holding him down with a choke hold and knee to the back while he was shirtless on the scalding pavement of a Wal-Mart parking lot in Texas.
Wal-Mart LP's Kill Suspected Shoplifter
Man held down on burning pavement until he died
Wal-Mart loss prevention workers tackled a man suspected of stealing diapers - a new father with a two month old child - holding him down with a choke hold and knee to the back while he was shirtless on the scalding pavement of a Wal-Mart parking lot in Texas.
The incident was witnessed by dozens of shoppers, including a prominent Texas attorney, Charles Portz:
Charles Portz said he was getting out of his car when he saw a heavy blonde haired man being chased by five people who appeared to be security or store employees. He said he saw them wrestling the man to the ground. "The blacktop was extremely hot," said Portz "He had no shirt on and they wouldn't let him up off the blacktop." He said one of the men had Driver in a chokehold and had his knee in the back of his neck as the men tried to subdue him. "He kept trying to get up and they kept pushing him back down," Portz said.
According to Portz, Driver began to plead with them men. "He's begging, 'Please call an ambulance, let me up, do something, I'm gonna die," said Portz. He said the loss prevention employees called the police more than once, but another bystander called for an ambulance after realizing Driver was in trouble. Portz said he eventually began to plead with the Walmart employees. "I told them, this guy doesn't look like he's breathing," Portz said, "They said, 'He's all right." He says he continued to plead with the men, pointing out that the man's fingernails were turning gray. "They said he's just high on something," adding, "They just kept him pinned down for twenty minutes or more until the ambulance came." He said he believed Driver was dead when the ambulance left with him, but he was not certain.
The store employees could not have known that the witness who was pleading with them to let Driver get up from the hot pavement was a high profile Houston attorney, from the Portz and Portz law firm. He said after the man was handcuffed he continued trying in vain to persuade the Walmart employees to allow him to get up, even pointing out that a second pair of cuffs could be used to attach the ones already on Driver to a nearby truck trailer. "The problem is they kept him down on the blistering concrete with no shirt on," Portz reiterated. He said law enforcement arrived at about the same time as the ambulance.
More:
(http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/metropolitan/3303871 )
(http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=15014453 )
(http://www.infoshop.org/inews/article.php?story=20050819185544407)
Notice that a witness was a top high profile attorney! Woe to Wal-Mart, your judgment is at hand, REPENT, or you are going to face the full Wrath of God Almighty! This I know and as you continue to destroy people's lives with your Greed, God is going to destroy you!!! All will see your destruction.
Now this posting is very emotional to me. I am very upset with this. I tell you, if I was there and saw what was happening, I would have tried to kick some butt! I would have got a baseball bat on some evil people! But God allowed this in order to prove His prophesy. My heart cries out to the family of that man. My prayers go out to that man's family, his little baby will always be asking what happen to her daddy! Where will you be, you evil Wal-Mart? This has got to stop people, No store should ever lay a hand on anybody, period!
If they see someone shoplifting or think they are shoplifting, they call the police to meet them. They should not stop them, they should not touch them, PERIOD!!! We the People, of this country need to rise up and make the laws needed to stop this. I have already told you of the 61-year-old lady that died in jail, and now here is another life taken by the evil. How many need to die before action is taken? How many?
I pray that the high profile attorney joins with the family and wins the entire bank-roll of Wal-Mart so bad that they are put out of business. They are evil and wicked and this latest posting proves it.
Wal-Mart, take this posting as another warning from a True Man Of God, REPENT and be saved, are God will bring more Wrath against thee!
For those of you good folks, be watching my post. If Wal-Mart never repents and further proof of God's wrath against them, I will post them as God reveals them to me. I pray for those good folks that have become victim to Wal-Marts evil.
"Lord please help that family and all the other families that have been targeted by this evil. May they call out to you and be saved and be blessed. I also pray for the people within Wal-Mart to come forward and repent and make things right. A company can be a good company without doing evil against the customers. I pray for all of them Lord. I pray that you return now and put a stop to all this evil. I pray. In Jesus name, Amen".
#98 Consumer Suggestion
AUTHOR: C. L. - Wheeling, (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, September 04, 2005
POSTED: Sunday, September 04, 2005
Taking the lords' name in vein as you are doing is repulsive. You are repulsive!!!
You are nothing but a common theif, so I hope you pay. Whoever heard of taking what you want to eat, eat it, and then pretend you were going to pay for it. You got caught. Hope you have to do your time.
Wal Mart is a great business, and I am glad that I have the privilege to have one that is close to me so I can shop there. You should thank your lucky stars that your fat rump isn't behind bars now. Get ready, it will be. Have fun, you stupid ignorant sob.
#99 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Stephen D - Victorville (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, September 04, 2005
POSTED: Sunday, September 04, 2005
You are completely off your rocker and you seriously need to admit yourself into the nearest looney bin.
if you truly didnt care what people thought or you or care what they posted about you then you would never have replied at all, your replies tell us that you very much care what people think of you. and what we think is YOU ARE NUTS!
what does wal-mart have to repent for? you stole from them and they caught you. as far as 99.99% of people would say they did a good job in getting a thief out their store.
you are a nut job, god nor jesus would have anything to do with you.
#100 Update By Author
AUTHOR: Todd - Columbia (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, September 05, 2005
POSTED: Monday, September 05, 2005
I can see how respectful you two have for God and Jesus, you never even write their names in the proper form. Plus, your lack of understanding for the Bible is expected, since you never learned to read it. From your response, it would seem you just are lazy in not reading the Bible to study it, and therefore just go by what someone tells you it says. When was the last time you studied the Bible? If you would have studied it, you would not have responded in the manner that you did. If you educated yourself in the Bible and I have written something that conflict with the Bible, then state it and we can have an educated chat. Otherwise, stay away from my posting. I am sure your family seed is the same as those that would stone me to death if I were to speak against the mighty Wal-Mart. I can see by your words, just because I raised my voice against the might of Wal-Mart, you wished you could murder me, correct.
Ask yourself this, were any of the Bible writers falsely accused?, Arrested?, Beaten?, Taken from their homes?, Murdered?, Stolen From?, Lied to?, Thrown to the Lions?, etc... Is my story any different? Just because big Wal-Mart accuses me and had me arrested makes me Guilty? What happen to innocent until proven guilty? Is the legal system fair, when the Governor of our state parades around with a Wal-Mart vest on?
Are you going to justify Wal-Mart for murdering those two people? I am sure you justify the police in New Orleans to shot and kill a man trying to get food for his little baby when he ran into a store. Is that justified?
Have you ever watched Mel Gibson's, The Passion Of Christ, did you watch the scene where Christ was beaten to the point where you almost could not notice who he was? Was that justified? What about Stephen being stoned to death? Was that justified?
Here's the problem with your two posts. First you really did not read or understand my words, nor did you ever read the Bible or you would have posted something else. Second, if my words are not correct, then it really does not matter correct? Third, if my words are correct, then would it be a good idea to repent and live righteously, rather than wickedly?
Let me try to rephrase my wording in a manner you maybe able to understand. I have posted much proof that something very wrong is going on with Wal-Mart, some of you know that to be the truth. Others do not want to accept that truth, and that is your right to. But just because some do not want to see the truth of the matter does not mean that the problem is not there. I have posted many facts that prove that there is a serious problem. So, are we just going to sit back and let the problem consume us and get out of control? Or our we going to do something about it?
I will say when I see something that really affects me, such as someone being murder-having diapers for his little baby, which does not deserve death! I do at the time express myself with deep emotions. What can I say, I am a caring person. And if you ever read deeply into the Bible you will discover that the writers are the same way. So, since I have studied the Bible all my life, my being is a formation of the Bible writers. If you do not like it, then to bad, that is me.
But, stop expressing and personally attacking me, but rather read what I read, is there any truth there? Is there a problem that I speak of? If so, what are we going to do about it? I am just the messanger; I know what God is going to do about it. I do not know the actual detail, that is His business, but from reading His words He will take down the wicked. If you do not believe me, then read His words for yourself.
God's word states:
"For he seeth that wise men die, likewise the fool and the brutish person perish, and leave their wealth to others. Their inward thought is, that their houses shall continue for ever, and their dwelling places to all generations; they call their lands after their own names. Nevertheless man being in honour abideth not: he is like the beasts that perish. This their way is their folly: yet their posterity approve their sayings. Selah. Like sheep they are laid in the grave; death shall feed on them; and the upright shall have dominion over them in the morning; and their beauty shall consume in the grave from their dwelling. But God will redeem my soul from the power of the grave: for he shall receive me. Selah. Be not thou afraid when one is made rich, when the glory of his house is increased; For when he dieth he shall carry nothing away: his glory shall not descend after him. Though while he lived he blessed his soul: and men will praise thee, when thou doest well to thyself. He shall go to the generation of his fathers; they shall never see light. Man that is in honour, and understandeth not, is like the beasts that perish" (Psalm 49:10-20).
It often disturbs me how some people claim to be a Christian, going to church, shaking hands, acting like they read the Bible, and yet, when someone that truly studies the Bible and quotes the Bible, these people attack him/her personally like they know nothing of the Bible. I can not tell you how many times someone has told me, "You got to forget about your Christian principles, This is a court of law". The funny thing is how small their mind is, for the very laws of our country were founded on the Christian laws. "Thou shall not murder., Thou shall not steal, Thou shall not lie, etc.." I can imagine God laughing so hard at the ignorance of these people stating such foolishness.
Another good description of what God states is this:
"Why boastest thou thyself in mischief, O mighty man? the goodness of God endureth continually. The tongue deviseth mischiefs; like a sharp razor, working deceitfully. Thou lovest evil more than good; and lying rather than to speak righteousness. Selah. Thou lovest all devouring words, O thou deceitful tongue. God shall likewise destroy thee for ever, he shall take thee away, and pluck thee out of thy dwelling place, and root thee out of the land of the living. Selah. The righteous also shall see, and fear, and shall laugh at him: Lo, this is the man that made not God his strength; but trusted in the abundance of his riches, and strengthened himself in his wickedness. But I am like a green olive tree in the house of God: I trust in the mercy of God for ever and ever. I will praise thee for ever, because thou hast done it: and I will wait on thy name; for it is good before thy saints" (Psalm 52).
Oh, one other thing. The wicked (Wal-Mart) can do nothing to me that the Lord does not allow. His word clearly states that He will take care of me, no matter what. Wal-Mart is not the worse battle I have ever been in, and each and everyone God gave me victory. The Bible states He is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. So, I know He will give me victory and He is just in doing so. Just like He saved Daniel from the Lion's Den, He will save me from the wick again. I did nothing wrong and Wal-Mart knows I did nothing wrong. That's why they keep adding lies to the case and bringing up more and more (false) witnesses. If what Wal-Mart says is true, then explain that?
You cannot explain it, and therefore you personally attack me to try and shut me up. But as long as God calls me to speak, I will do so. Wal-Mart is very wrong at what they are doing and they know it. There is another report on this website by "Jose" from North Carolina that states how "Loss Prevention" people will setup customers, and falsely accuse them. It is sad that he was fired illegally, but it was all part of God's planning to expose the truth. So, are you still going to tell me that Wal-Mart is correct to say I stole something? When so much facts are building up against Wal-Mart? I have a witness that use to work at the very store where I was accused and she has given me much detail of the criminal activity that Wal-Mart operates. Are you going to say she is lying? Is Jose and others that have talked to me, lying?
I never wanted to take on this fight. I enjoy peace. But I will not allow someone to plow over me. If Wal-Mart remembers my words when they accused me, "I am a fighting Christian! I will fight you on this issue!" I cannot remember my exact words, but it was like this. And I remember the manager laughing at me, then turning and stating, "Secure the video tapes"! It is almost too funny that some people do not believe that God and Jesus are real. I pray for these people. Let me ask you, will you remember the people of New Orleans in two years? I am sure you do not even remember the people of 9/11. I pray often for them and remember them. I also pray for these people that are victim to Wal-Mart and other evils that attack them. I hope that Jesus return, so every knee will bow and confess He is Lord. That will be a great day!
Oh, one last thing. God will give me victory! I am not scared of these people one bit.
Bye for now.
#101 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Stephen D - Victorville (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, September 05, 2005
POSTED: Monday, September 05, 2005
its funny how you mention lack of understanding the bible because you obviously dont understand it because you missed the "thou shall not steal"
stone you to death? murder you? crazy boy you aren't even worth the murder conviction. we might call the men in white coates on your crazy a$$ but thats about it.
you are a thief and you got caught, case closed. you can bring all the fight you want you will still lose because you took stuff from wal-mart without paying for it and you will do jail time (and everyone that posted here will rejoice in song)
you seem to have a hard time accepting something simple we call reality.
god and jesus want nothing to do with you. they sided with wal-mart. they dont associate with criminals.
#102 Update By Author
AUTHOR: Todd - Columbia (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, September 05, 2005
POSTED: Monday, September 05, 2005
Wow! So you know God and Jesus so well that you do not even respect them enough to write their names in the proper form. Amazing.
Here is some more truth for ya, which I have discovered against the evils of Wal-Mart. Is it a crime for a business to take an item that was already paid for by a customer, in which the customer forgot under the cart, and the business resale's that same item within the store? Is that a crime? I have seen this happen and many people have told me this has happen. So, who is the criminal here?
Secondly, is it a crime for a business to take EXPIRED food items, rewrap them and place a new expired date on the food item? Is that a crime?
Should I continue? Is it a crime to falsely accuse, falsely imprison, and falsely entrap a customer? Is that a crime?
Your statements are not even educated enough for me to even respond to. But, I felt I must at least educate you a little on your beloved store. And lastly, since you seem to state you know God and Jesus so much, what scriptures are you referring to? Where does it say that God and Jesus punish an innocent man? Even King Solomon was just and had great wisdom from the Lord to review the truth in a matter concerning the two mothers and one baby. Even Jacob doing God's will, was not even punished... Oh wait you know God and Jesus so I am sure you knew that already. Or what about Joanna, was he punished for doing wrong? Did he break any man-made laws? Or was he refusing to listen to God? Oh, and must we forget, did Daniel break any man-made laws when he refused to bow down to the kings idol, and instead kept God's laws. When the king tried to kill Daniel, did God give Daniel victory?
Is there anymore? Oh, I keep forgetting you respond like you know God and Jesus and therefore I have done wrong and Wal-Mart is this big righteous company. I am sure you will state that Wal-Mart was in the right to MURDER those two people! You are brainwashed, I wonder whenever you go to Wal-Mart do you kiss the managers photograph as if he was the pope or something? I wonder.
Plus, I am hoping that God provide a more open-minded jury, than the narrow-minded brain-dead expression you have stated in your response. If the court and jury are like you, then your right I have no chance. But I tend to have hope in our legal system, that it is not as corrupt as one would think. I am totally prepared for whatever the court may throw at me. I know no man-made court system will be as fair and as just as the Lord's court. I have no convictions and know I never did this crime. The court wanted me to sign a plea in which my record would be clean, and all I had to do is pay some fees and do some community time. If I was guilty, as you want to claim, WHY did I continue down this hard road and not take that easy Plea? Why? Mr. Smarty Paints?
I know my chances of a fair and clean court case are almost none. I know very well, that the judge and jury may slam me down before I can even speak. I have heard it many times, not just from you but others I know. I have also heard people, church people, telling me to fight. The court may try to crush me, and Wal-Mart is very big to do so. But I know the Lord and Father in Heaven are larger than the mighty Wal-Mart. And God will crush them if they do not repent for what they have done to others and me. I am humble in my ways, but I will not allow anyone, to run over me. God often calls for followers to take a stand and be a "Real Christian".
I wonder if you were put under the test as I have been, would you stand? Or would you run and hide under a rock? I am standing tall, in front of all and telling them, I will not agree and lie, I did not do this crime! Come do to me what you will; I know that no weapon formed against me will ever harm me! That is truth, that is fact, and you will see what God will do in this case.
God will give me Victory!
#103 Consumer Suggestion
AUTHOR: Denny - Honolulu (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, September 06, 2005
POSTED: Tuesday, September 06, 2005
And no amount of praying, preaching, and outright lies from you are going to change the fact that
you stole food.
you ate that food while shopping
and walmart arrested your @$$ for doing so.
Plain and simple
Your praying, and preaching ( yet you are so not a true christian, even though you want to convince us that you are ), wont change that you are a criminal. Shoplifting is a crime, and well you got caught.
and again, USING the tragic events of Lousiana and those who have died as "proof" of God's working is unholy sick and twisted.
You need to lay off the inahalants, Todd. Check yourself into a hospital for a full evaluation,
#104 Update By Author
AUTHOR: Todd - Columbia (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, September 06, 2005
POSTED: Tuesday, September 06, 2005
Denny,
Are you 100% that I stole something? I have told my story over and over again and you do not want to listen. Why? Because you are BLIND! I am sure you enjoy your large salary which is most likely paid for by Wal-mart. In which case Wal-Mart stole from the hard workers, so you could enjoy off of their labors. Sound just like the old slave-trade is still alive and kicking.
Shame, shame.
#105 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Denny - Honolulu (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, September 06, 2005
POSTED: Tuesday, September 06, 2005
*****Are you 100% that I stole something? I have told my story over and over again and you do not want to listen.*****
Lets see,
You ate a sandwhich in Walmart ( against policy) and did not pay for it.
You admitted to doing this.
To Steal:
To take (the property of another) without right or permission.
To move, carry, or place surreptitiously.
you did not have permission to take that sandwhich. Store policies state that you must pay for items you wish to purchase.
"Why? Because you are BLIND! I am sure you enjoy your large salary which is most likely paid for by Wal-mart. In which case Wal-Mart stole from the hard workers, so you could enjoy off of their labors. Sound just like the old slave-trade is still alive and kicking."
And im the one that's blind??? This initself speaks loudly that you are blind, Todd.
#106 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Tom - Gahanna (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, September 06, 2005
POSTED: Tuesday, September 06, 2005
Gang:
i put my 2 cents in a few months ago . my post was about Todd here needing to chow down in the store for reasons unknown . He cant wait until he leaves the store like everyone else. Its a well known scam -to ditch the wrappers.
i also went on about if he was a christian -he wouldnt be on some holy rampage. we all know this.
but finally -has it dawned on anyone that Todd could have made this whole story up? He is some kind of sociopath who craves attention and creates a 'theatre of the absurd'?
his rants are ridiculous to the point that it almost seems as though he is doing it 'tongue in cheek'. he loves the attention , control and feedback from everyone.
Todd:
this is a site for those who have been ripped off from companies. It is not your private playground for your emotional problems. Seek medical attention.
Honest. the joke is over. Seek medical help.
#107 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Jodi - Dubuque (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, September 06, 2005
POSTED: Tuesday, September 06, 2005
I thought it was a salad? grapes or chips? is this really worth discussing for 5 years?
#108 Consumer Suggestion
AUTHOR: Frank - North Brunswick (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, September 16, 2005
POSTED: Friday, September 16, 2005
Jodi, if some accused you of stealing a grape, or a sandwich, the penalties are severe. You get arrested, fined, and most likely, do community service. Now if you are innocent of this crime, how would you feel? Would you then want to share your exerience to the rest of us? Or maybe you think it is ok to take what ever is dished out to you, right or wrong?
Tom and Denny, I have to agree with Todd that you guys are on Walmart's payroll. You kept on stating that Todd took the food, ate it, threw the wrapper in the garbage, and left the store. But you guys certainly don't seem to read real well because he also state it that he took the wrapper to the cashier to PAY for the items!!!
I don't know the rules in that particular Walmart. But what IF they have the same procedure as most resturants, which is order and eat first, pay last? Sure, Todd is a bit over zealous when it comes down to his beliefs, but it doesn't negate the fact that several people, including myself, was wrongfully accused of stealing on this website! Are we all attention seekers? I can certainly think of better things to do than spending countless amount of hours reading and typing about this disgusting issue! Bottomline is, I can't verify whether all the postings about people's experience are true on this website. But if those of you who think that Walmart and their employee do nothing wrong except reporting the truth? You are indeed the blind one.
#109 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Dale - Vancouver (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, September 20, 2005
POSTED: Tuesday, September 20, 2005
Tom and Denny are 100% correct. Attacking them and accusing them of being on the payroll is a "great" defense for a thief. Go for it.
If I took 4 items from the deli, ate all 4 while shopping, discarded one of the packages in a wastebasket (hidden in napkins) and paid for the remaining 3...does that make me a thief?
According to some here the answer is no?
If I get caught, and try to convince others I did no wrong because I brought the empty containers with bar codes to the checkout, am I still a thief? But look at the receipt, it shows I paid for them!!!
What if I told you I was a Christian? Am I still a thief? But I know scriptures, doesn't that count??
What if I told you that in the past, this store ripped me off on an exchange...THEY STOLE FROM ME FIRST!! Am I still a thief?
Ok, I know that there are a few people unhappy with this store chain for whatever their reason. Doesn't it make sense that I did NOT steal anything because this store has wronged other people in other ways? Doesn't this store chain deserve to be boycotted because they made these allegations of theft to a Christian?
I think the original poster was looking for others to join the bandwagon of Wal-Mart bashing and thought he could hurt their bottom line. A thief needs to twist and turn stories and omit facts to shield the TRUTH.
The TRUTH is...
You took something that didn't belong to you...
You tried to conceal your crime...
You got caught...
You will pay the price of this crime!
For the record... I am not on the payroll or have any business dealings with Wal-Mart.
#110 Update By Author
AUTHOR: Todd - Columbia (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, September 20, 2005
POSTED: Tuesday, September 20, 2005
This is for Tom, Denny and Dale
Do not know if I should even bother to respond to you directly. Most educated folks that have become victims to this aggressive assault by Wal-Mart and other large corporate aggression know first hand, I speak the truth. Yes, I am strong on my Biblical grammar, for I know a deeper truth, which seems that your mind is to blind to see.
Even if one does not want to listen to the deeper perspective that does not delude the fact that something very wrong is going on. I know I did not do this crime, and God will give me victory. And when that happens, I will post that victory here. And as far as you stating prior that you knew someone that went and looked at the public record is a big fat lie! There is no public record on pending criminal cases in South Carolina. Unlike your twisted views that I am guilty before trial, we here in the South, at least some good Christian folks, believe in the Christian teachings of "Due Process". Ever hear of that term? It was written by a Christian, which was taught by the Biblical teachings of a fair trial of anyone accused of a crime, whom wrote it on one of the most important documents ever written in human history. What document do you think I am talking about? As I remember it is stored somewhere in D.C. But I guess you would never know that or whom I am referring to, would you?
I know that God allows persecutions to be afflicted upon His children, in order to build up their faith and witness to others of His Majestic Glory: "Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses" (1 Timothy 6:12).
Since my last posting, and frankly I am not posting for you are ones like you, but for those that have been attacked in the same way that I have been. In hopes that we good folks join together by educating each other at what is going on and stop it. That is my mission here.
God has blessed me with some major advancements to my case. One, he has lead me to one of the most effective attorneys in the South, which is one of the best. The second thing is my investigator has uncovered a mountain of evidence in my favor that will blow Wal-Mart's charges, right out of the water, come trial day. I am not going to post any details of that here. But God is Awesome! You watch, before it is over with, as I warned Wal-Mart that day, they have arrested the wrong Christian, Wal-Mart will wish they never did anything to me or all those other folks Wal-Mart attacked.
I stand on Christian Principles, and if God is willing, I will take on the fight. Before this war is over, Wal-Mart will be nothing of what it use to be. I have told my attorney go full force into the attack, bring'em down! Wal-Mart has become a very evil company, and I see nothing good within its dark walls. It has destroyed towns, families, and chocked the economy. It may have started out as a good company, but today it is a plague. It causes our political electives to go against the people. It causes taxes to rise, which makes poor people even poorer. It crushes good family businesses into nothing but dust in the wind. And, if God is willing, I will be the spear to bring them down that is a promise. If God is willing. I will.
Praise Lord, your mighty Name, Oh Jesus! May I bring Glory to Your Name!
#111 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Robert - Jacksonville (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, September 21, 2005
POSTED: Wednesday, September 21, 2005
When TtT(Todd the Thief) start up again, he puts me to sleep immediately with his Bible Thumping.
I'll bet he's one of those loudmouths who stand on street corners screaming at everyone else about their "fornicating", and "blaspheming", etc. They tried those tactics in NC years ago. We ran them all out. They would literally scream at the top of their lungs at you while you sat waiting for the green light. Unreal. There wewre a few cases of beatings due to this tactic. Apparently, some parents got tired of having to explain to their children what the crazies were yelling, and they were dealt with. They are no more, where I am from. SC is still filled with them though...they were bad outside of Parris Island, in Beaufort.
I really hope there is a God, Todd. You don't stand a snowballs' chance if there is.
#112 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Jessica - Long Beach (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, September 21, 2005
POSTED: Wednesday, September 21, 2005
Todd,
I cannot believe what I am reading here. I really hope that you started this whole thing as a hoax. If you didn't, I feel very sorry for you.
I am sure you are going to accuse me of being the devil or something along those lines since I disagree with your view of your theft, however let me state right now I am a Christian. Every day I try to do 'what Jesus would'. It is a constant struggle. As a Christian (if you really are), you would agree with that. What disturbs me is how you committed a crime and think it's ok because you are a Christian. It seems to me with all your ranting and raving and pointing fingers at other people, that you are just a few steps away from becoming the next David Koresh!
It is not ok to steal because you are Christian. You don't seem the least bit repentent for your crime. Where do you possibly think it's ok to order food, eat it, and not pay for it? And how can you expect anyone to believe that you ordered this food, had time to SIT DOWN AND EAT IT, but yet you did not have time to pay for it? Who in their right mind thinks that is ok? I highly doubt you even ordered this food. It was probably in one of those refridgerated containers, you took it out, ate what you wanted, never took it up to the counter to pay for it and you were caught on tape. No food server is going to give you food without paying for it. Give us all a break here, Todd. None of what you are saying makes any sense.
A true Christian does not start accusing people of being the devil when others disagree with what he says. I think you seriously need to consider getting professional help. Wal-Mart has nothing to do with it.
#113 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Adolph - Elkhart (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, September 21, 2005
POSTED: Wednesday, September 21, 2005
Being of sound mind I am an inarguably confirmed athiest. My ethics and honesty far surpass many of the self-professed Christians I've known in my many years. I do what is right not because of some nonexistent afterlife in which one is allegedly punished,but a personal desire to do what I (and society at large) have deemed "the right thing to do". I do agree with the "Golden Rule" as stated in Christian dogma.
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Here's some dialogue that makes a whole lot more sense to me than the contradictory, confusing, rantings in the Christian bible.
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When a man speaks to God that is called prayer. When God speaks to a man that is usually known as a delusion. Usually but not always. For some reason many people are prepared to accept that there are exceptional people who God talks to directly.
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When God does choose to speak through a man for some strange reason he contradicts himself. For a supreme being with omnipotence, omniscience, omnipresence and a beneficent character this is very strange behaviour.
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I cannot help thinking that if God wanted to save the world by sending down his only son he rather cocked up his strategy. Why did he send Jesus when he did? That is, after thousands of generations of men had died without the chance to be saved and yet before mass communications had been fully developed. It seems rather a mystery. If leaving millions of men's souls unsaved is not a problem why didn't he wait until say, 1970, to send his son, then the whole world would be in a position to hear his words today on the world-wide media that an omniscient God must have predicted? God must have written off the souls of millions of people before deciding to send in his boy. That strikes me as rather dumb for an omniscient God.
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OK, let us grant that God cocked up the timing but he got the rest right, didn't he? No. He talks to his prophets such as Moses, Jesus, Mohammed, the Mormons, Moonies and the rest and gives them conflicting messages. Or perhaps he only speaks to some of them and the others are evil manipulators. It strikes me as terrible strategy. If mere mortals are going around pretending to spread your holy word why don't you turn them into pillars of salt or smite them with a thunderbolt? If you want your message delivered by men and to be understood by men why not tell several men the same message, at the same time, across the whole world? That would convince me, if the same story about the will of God emerged from four or five cultures at once, met up, got translated and were found to agree. That would have in church like a shot. But God has missed his chance.
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If such a thing happened today everyone would think it was a conspiracy.
Naturally the believer answers this skepticism by chastising me for even daring to consider the motives of God. I cannot help it, I have been educated to question everything, I make no apologies for extending that questioning, even into the mind of God. Or more accurately into the mind of a hypothetical God.
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My beliefs in the supernatural are quite clear. The supernatural is an oxymoron. There is the natural world, natural laws operate, these are knowable but not yet fully known. The extent of our ignorance of natural laws is impossible to measure. Two hundred years ago scientists would probably estimate that they understood half of what was knowable, I guess today's scientists might guess the same, in another two hundred years they still might guess the same. The more science learns the more the extent of the unknown. But there is nothing that is unknowable. That is my faith, or more respectably, that is my working hypothesis.
God is an invention of man, a social construct. All human societies have some form of religion, from simple animism and ancestor worship through polytheism, monotheism and deism.
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From the earliest periods of history there have also been a growing minority of atheists. Many atheists have seen through religions and found them hollow. Others have seen how they operate and propagate themselves and have come to reject them because they can see why they exist. I reject religion on both grounds. I know there is no God. I know why we invented him.
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I understand what other people are perceiving when they say they feel the presence of God, it is a common illusion. My brain knows that my vision has a hole in the middle of it, where the optic nerve leaves the eye from the wrong side, there is a gap in my perception, I can prove it to myself logically with "magic tricks" but my brain also "knows" that my vision is perfect. One form of knowledge is learned, one is instinctive and not open to logic. The religious believer knows there is a God in the non logical way I know my vision is perfect. Both are wrong.
There is a hole in my vision because my distant ancestors in the Cambrian era evolved a pit of light sensitive cells with the nerve fibres in front of the light sensitive parts. Any sensible God or digital camera designer would have started again, putting the light sensitive parts of the cell next to the clear liquid filled reservoir and put the wiring round the back. But all fish, reptiles, birds and mammals have to put up with this design fault, wiring on the inside of the eye, and a great big bunch of unseeing nerve fibres right in the middle where the eye really wants to focus. This is a fact that many teachers will gloss over, they will tell you that there is a "blind-spot" in the middle of your vision, they will show you how to demonstrate it to yourself, they will not point out the implications.
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The implications are that it is not possible to come up with any argument from design to explain this fact. Only evolution explains it. Once a simple eye had emerged wired up in this way it was not possible to invert it without making it work less well in the short term. Evolution cannot go backwards, even half a step, just as a river only ever flows downhill even if it meanders for miles. Evolution can only make our eyes better by making subtle changes, turning our eyes inside out, to be the right way round, was only an option for a brief period of time in chordate evolution. No such mutation happened at this time. It is now too late.
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It may be of some comfort to know that squid and octopuses have eyes that are very similar to ours but with the nerves where they belong, behind the photoreceptors. They were evolved completely separately, we have no common ancestor with eyes. This is to my mind one piece of evidence for the non existence of God that will outweigh every weeping statue, every vision of the virgin and every tomato with the message "there is no God but Allah" in its pips. It is proof every animal was not created from scratch, made perfectly by an all wise God, it is very strong evidence for evolution. Evolution cannot start again from a blank design, evolution turned a second rate basic design into the beautifully functioning eyes we chordates use today.
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What is the difference between a prophet and a lunatic?
Prophets hear the voice of God and talk with him. God reveals himself to prophets and they do his work. Lunatics hear voices in their heads. The difference is only good public relations. "God told me to kill my son" has been used as an excuse in courts a few times, but usually the defence lawyers use it as evidence of insanity. What is different about Abraham and Isaac? To me there is no difference. We have been told that Abraham did hear the voice of God, that his claim is legitimate. Just good public relations.
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P.S. EDitor-sorry this's s long, buy I get my craw full of all the bleatings of the God group.
#114 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Pat - Bristol (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, September 22, 2005
POSTED: Thursday, September 22, 2005
So he must hate Christians too. So please, stay home next election.
#115 Consumer Suggestion
AUTHOR: James - Calgary (Canada)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, September 22, 2005
POSTED: Thursday, September 22, 2005
Adolf;
Far be it for me to put myself in with any so called "religeous" person. I certainly don't believe in that, any more than Jesus did.
However I do know that Jesus walked on this earth. I will tell ya why. Cause 4 people wrote about him, & they basically all had the "same story". That is not the only reason either.
What they wrote about what he said, makes a lot of damn sense.
The "main thing" he kept on saying, which the "Churches never seem to get"... the one thing he kept on saying, over & over again was "Judge not lest ye be judged & ye will be Judged with the same mete as ye Judge others".
Jesus was a carpenter & if he wanted to build a damn Church, he would have built one! He also told his followers to "pray in a closet, because if you make a spectical out of yourself, you have already won your reward".
Now far be it for me to expect you to read the "entire Bible". Most of it I personally cannot vouch for. However if you just read the chapters Mathew, Luke, Mark & John (you can actually drop John if ya wish)... you would get a pretty good idea of a very smart man with a very real message that some hippocrates have not gotten to this day! You also would get a pretty good idea how many of these "religeous people" are so far off in "left field" it isn't funny.
It might open your mind a little. Just a suggestion. Oh & by the way if you do read those chapters... don't let anyone tell you what Jesus meant. You figure it out for yourself.
Jesus was a "real rebel". You might relate.
Cheers
#116 Consumer Suggestion
AUTHOR: James - Calgary (Canada)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, September 22, 2005
POSTED: Thursday, September 22, 2005
Todd;
I bet the next time, you will go with your kids to the Deli counter, get what they want & pay for it on the spot, won't you?
What does it have to do with being Christian? It's amazing that it has taken this long for you to have this problem.
Your not talking about a "small company" store here. Your talking about a Walmart. Way too many people there to expect a cashier to even remember you. Definately not one with a "quick mind" for the money they pay in wages. Not one that they want to have you "screaming at" in front of customers, if they fear that could happen.
You know, but I can see the main reason why you had this problem. You made such a big deal! First of all they only wanted you to fill out a form. You were not satisfied with that & even went into "crying" & getting the police involved & getting the policemans badge number. So they made an example of you.
Now you say you are a Christian, & it really is not a point in this whole thing. However since you brought it up, think about what Jesus would do if faced with this situation.
Lady confronts him outside the store, & says "Sir, you did not pay for the items you consumed". Jesus say's "Excuse me, let me check my reciept, as I did take the tags up to the counter to get scanned. You know what maam? Your absolutely right! The cashier did not scan the items I brought to her. Can we take this up with the cashier? I am really very sorry!"
He would understand that the lady who confronted you outside has a job that most people would not want. If you were calm with her & filled out the form, that probably would have been the end of it.
You made such a big deal, instead, with her, the Manager, with the Policeman, who's job you probably would not want either, that you ended up crying & demanding his badge number. All the time proclaiming Jesus name by saying you were a Christian.
Now think there Todd. Would Jesus act in that way? Do you think there is a halo surrounding you that would tell anyone who suspected you of theft that "no it could not be you"? No, of course not! Each of these people you "demanded things of" were simply doing their job. Here you are almost proclaiming you are "Jesus himself" & yet not acting in any way as he would.
So "they know" you will get off in court most likely. You know as well as do I. However what they did was 2 things.
1> They made you think for the future about when you should pay for stuff, so this never happens again.
2> Hopefully you will get the "jist" of this & realized that you made too much of a big deal! Hell even in front of your kids "for God's sake"!
Now I am not "judgeing you", & I might be totally "out to lunch" in my evaluation. I do know however how these people work & why they do what they do. Some people cause them so much trouble, they know they cannot exact punishment legally. So they give you the "big run around" & scare the hell out of you in the process. On purpose by the way!
It might have been the lady who confronted you that was "having a bad day" or it might have been the Manager, or the Policeman. Who knows? It could have been any of those three. It also might have been you & your "self righteous attitude".
However we know how to avoid this in the future now don't we? Just make sure it is paid for at the Deli counter.
#117 Consumer Suggestion
AUTHOR: James - Calgary (Canada)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, September 22, 2005
POSTED: Thursday, September 22, 2005
Todd;
I bet the next time, you will go with your kids to the Deli counter, get what they want & pay for it on the spot, won't you?
What does it have to do with being Christian? It's amazing that it has taken this long for you to have this problem.
Your not talking about a "small company" store here. Your talking about a Walmart. Way too many people there to expect a cashier to even remember you. Definately not one with a "quick mind" for the money they pay in wages. Not one that they want to have you "screaming at" in front of customers, if they fear that could happen.
You know, but I can see the main reason why you had this problem. You made such a big deal! First of all they only wanted you to fill out a form. You were not satisfied with that & even went into "crying" & getting the police involved & getting the policemans badge number. So they made an example of you.
Now you say you are a Christian, & it really is not a point in this whole thing. However since you brought it up, think about what Jesus would do if faced with this situation.
Lady confronts him outside the store, & says "Sir, you did not pay for the items you consumed". Jesus say's "Excuse me, let me check my reciept, as I did take the tags up to the counter to get scanned. You know what maam? Your absolutely right! The cashier did not scan the items I brought to her. Can we take this up with the cashier? I am really very sorry!"
He would understand that the lady who confronted you outside has a job that most people would not want. If you were calm with her & filled out the form, that probably would have been the end of it.
You made such a big deal, instead, with her, the Manager, with the Policeman, who's job you probably would not want either, that you ended up crying & demanding his badge number. All the time proclaiming Jesus name by saying you were a Christian.
Now think there Todd. Would Jesus act in that way? Do you think there is a halo surrounding you that would tell anyone who suspected you of theft that "no it could not be you"? No, of course not! Each of these people you "demanded things of" were simply doing their job. Here you are almost proclaiming you are "Jesus himself" & yet not acting in any way as he would.
So "they know" you will get off in court most likely. You know as well as do I. However what they did was 2 things.
1> They made you think for the future about when you should pay for stuff, so this never happens again.
2> Hopefully you will get the "jist" of this & realized that you made too much of a big deal! Hell even in front of your kids "for God's sake"!
Now I am not "judgeing you", & I might be totally "out to lunch" in my evaluation. I do know however how these people work & why they do what they do. Some people cause them so much trouble, they know they cannot exact punishment legally. So they give you the "big run around" & scare the hell out of you in the process. On purpose by the way!
It might have been the lady who confronted you that was "having a bad day" or it might have been the Manager, or the Policeman. Who knows? It could have been any of those three. It also might have been you & your "self righteous attitude".
However we know how to avoid this in the future now don't we? Just make sure it is paid for at the Deli counter.
#118 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Patrick - Gilbert (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, September 22, 2005
POSTED: Thursday, September 22, 2005
James,
First, I will also say that I am a stout atheist. And I just want to comment on your post, and give everyone "something else" to think about too.
For the sake of argument, we'll both agree that Jesus did indeed walk the earth 2000 years ago. And his time on earth was chronicled in part by Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.
How do we know Jesus was who he said he was? Anyone can say they are the son of God. And how do we even know that God exists for that matter?
Now, you may call me crazy (what else is new), but here is one possibility that I have considered over the years. Jesus was an alien. That's right, I said it, an alien. Now bear with me.
Over 2000 years ago, how technologically advanced was the human race? Technology was practically non-existent at that time. So then you have a virgin women who was empregnated supposedly by God (depending on which religion you subscribe to), and brought forth the son of God. Anything that could not be readily explained (virgin birth, feeding the masses, etc) was generally labeled a "miracle". What if they are not miracles, but just occurances that are beyond our understanding?
I say she was artificially inseminated by an alien race that was on earth to study the human culture. They created a "savior" to see what affect that would have on the world population of the time. Or, maybe they had decided we were headed downhill too quickly, and stepped in to save us from ourselves.
I know, I know. You will now use this as ammunition against me in all the other Bush and Great Cars & Trucks reports. Quite frankly, I couldn't give a rodent's mule (figure it out). To me, this seems like the most logical explanation.
I mean, think about it. Genesis says God created the heavens and earth. Then, he brought forth Adam and Eve. Scientists have estimated the earth's age at millions, possibly even billions of years old. That's an awful lot of time between creation and where we are today.
To me, the bible just does not make sense, and is just an odd collection of stories and tales. And talk about the all-time ripoff, churches would be it. The amount of money pumped into churches every year is astounding. Take the Mormon church for example. Forget Microsoft, if the LDS church were a coporation, it would rank right up there along with them and Wal-Mart. If you're feeling charitable, go out and volunteer some time at the local homeless shelter, be a mentor to underpriviledged children, spend time in a nursing home with folks who have no family left. God does not want your money (but boy the church elders sure do!).
Anyways, that's my 2 cents.
#119 Update By Author
AUTHOR: Todd - Columbia (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, September 22, 2005
POSTED: Thursday, September 22, 2005
I was going to make a nice posting for Adolf, and most likely still will. I like the fact he has put some thought behind his posting. I have some very good research he maybe interested in. When I started my research on searching for the truth I conducted many experiments. I will post some of them at a later time.
I know some have read way over what I have been posting and did not see what I was saying for the trees blinding them. But as I have said before, I enjoy reading people of educated responses. Those that quickly post some kind of a personal attack just because they hate the "J", "G", or "B" word is just blowing smoke.
I did want to say; I enjoyed reading your perspective. I would say, Book of John is a very good read, it is full of the love. I call Book of John the "Loverboy" of the Bible. Luke is more of a historical and detailed writer. And they are just now discovering many of his details of events, people and historic places are becoming true evidence. And if you look at the dates when the books were written, you can see that most of them were just 30 or so years after the event. That would make most of the writers in their 60-70 age. This is one thing that use to stand out in my mind during my research.
I do have one other thing to add to Adolf, since he talked about logic, in which I like to talk about also, is read what one of the most effective logic researcher wrote:
"Good scientific method is based on the idea of reproducible evidence. In other words, it is better to do an experiment yourself rather than rely on the say-so of someone else who has done it and claimed certain results" (Douglas N. Walton, Informal Logic, 1989, p.174-175).
Walton also writes:
"It might be that nobody has ever disproved the existence of God, but it does not follow that it is impossible to prove it" (Douglas N. Walton, Informal Logic, 1989, p.44).
As I have said before, I enjoy educated postings. Thank you for your postings.
#120 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Robert - Jacksonville (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, September 22, 2005
POSTED: Thursday, September 22, 2005
When you aren't into one of your "Thumper" rants, your posts can be very lucid and informative. Thank you, from another Atheist(religion code #75 in the USMC).
#121 Consumer Suggestion
AUTHOR: James - Calgary (Canada)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, September 22, 2005
POSTED: Thursday, September 22, 2005
Dear Patrick;
I am not going to use it against you, as I do think the idea has merit. It is more than possible you are absolutely correct.
& Todd... well thanks for the reply
#122 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Patrick - Gilbert (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, September 22, 2005
POSTED: Thursday, September 22, 2005
Wow,
The civil side of James. Will miracles (no pun intended, of course) never cease!
It's nice to know that others may think the same way as I do. The one thing a I can say for sure though, is that I don't know for sure. I don't think any of us really does, not matter what they "think".
But alas, this is not a report about religions or belief systems, but rather about the actions of Wal-Mart against an individual.
Who's to say for sure if all of the foods items were properly paid for, but I still think the policy of non-consumption before purchase is the best policy. Unfortunately, my wife does not feel that way, and I get angry with her whenever we are shopping, and our 4-year old whines for a snack only because she sees it, not because she is hungry, and my wife happily opens the package to appease her. Oh well, whatever it takes to maintain a happy marriage (lol).
#123 Consumer Suggestion
AUTHOR: James - Calgary (Canada)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, September 22, 2005
POSTED: Thursday, September 22, 2005
Todd & Patrick & anyone else reading this thread;
For years I was turned away & "turned off" by religeon & the hipprocrates I saw.
At one time in my life I went searching for my children which had been hidden from me since my Divorce. I was feeling "so much pain" & very exasperated in my hunt. Everywhere I went, I hit a "brick wall".
Finally, at "last resort"... I prayed. The prayer went something like this:
Dear God or Jesus or whoever you are;
I wish I could believe in you & I wish I could ask for your help. I am so troubled right now trying to find my children. I just don't believe in those hipprocrates that say they are religeous!
They sit in their Churches & they Judge Everyone! They tell me to be a Christian, I can't smoke or drink or swear or do anything that seems normal to me. They want me to "dress right & walk right & talk right" & God I just don't believe in them. I do not want to join a Church. Please God if you can help me... please do it!
Well, I don't care what anybody says, cause some words came into my head & I did not put them there. I even asked "what"? & the words were repeated.
These are the words:
Jesus Christ never preached a Church!
Well I was amazed! Definately against everything I had ever been taught! So I grabbed a Bible & I began to highlight everything I could find in it that Jesus Christ ever said. Then I compared the books. I took from them the highlights that were in agreement with eachother from Mathew, Mark & Luke. I have a problem with John & I am not going to put that here. Anyway, guess what?
Jesus Christ never did preach a Church! As a matter of fact he hated the Churches of the day which were Synagogues of his time. He actually made a "big stink" in them & preached on the Sabbath, which was illegal at the time. He called some of them hipprocrates & pharohcies! He made a "big deal" to make sure no one followed him in that way.
More I found out that even though Jesus gave us the "Lords Prayer", the Churches had changed it. They changed Jesus words! How dare they!. The Lords Prayer is written the same way in Mathew & in Luke. He told people how to pray in the "preface to the Lords Prayer" Mathew 6 & backed up by Luke!
So I became enraged! How dare they change Jesus words! How many Churches are doing this? I went from Church to Church asking them to recite the "Lords Prayer". None of them said it correctly. All reading from the "same Bible".
Then I figured out why they changed it. It was over money. As usual. Something Jesus was not into. I have spent some time makeing this known in the past. I even have asked the question "How can you be a Christian & go to a Church?" I like getting a rise out of some people sometimes. :O) So in the end I am not religeous, I don't go to a Church. I am open to Jesus being even an alien. I am open to science. I am open to everything, but I also call myself a Christian because I believe in what Jesus said & I try to follow his words. I don't believe you can be a Christian if you do not follow his words & I see a lot of people calling themselves Christian, that definately don't, but they go to a Church. Jesus has something to say about that! Stop it! If you Judge people, you are "NOT" Christian!
Now I am guilty of Judgeing people, from time to time, as old habits are hard to break. However if the main point in your Church is to do "exactly that", it is not Christian & it has "no right" calling itself as such! Jesus said in the "preface" that when you pray, go into your closet & "Shut The Door" & pray to thy Father which is in "private". Not for you to make a spectical of yourself with. Do ya hear me Billy Graham? Oral Roberts? Jack Van Impe? Huh? You money rakers!
#124 Consumer Suggestion
AUTHOR: James - Calgary (Canada)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, September 22, 2005
POSTED: Thursday, September 22, 2005
I don't know if it has hit your town or city yet, but in case it has not, here is the store of the future.
They are already operating in many Major Cities, grocery stores that is.
No checkout tellers! That's right none! You take your stuff to a machine. The only people employed are "stock people" & security to monitor your every move.
You take your stuff to the machine & you scan it yourself. Then the machine gives you the total & you deposit money, or card. The machine gives you change & prints out a receipt. You bag your stuff & they might hire someone to carry your stuff to the car for you.
So these things are being phased out! Ah hah... the future!
Now all they need to do is insert that "micro chip" inside of your body when born & you won't even need the machine to make change. They will scan you!
Good or bad thing? Lowers prices. Eliminates Jobs. As Walmart has proven, people generally care more about prices than jobs, so it will probably go over just fine.
So Todd... if this was 2025, you would not even have an issue here. If you left the store without being scanned, stomach & all, a robot cop would show up & beam you directly into jail, processing all your paperwork as you went. Push one button for Guilty & button #2 if you would rather wait for trial. ***beep you selected wait for trial*** Waiting time for trial is presently ****beep 3 weeks 5 days***. Please press "ok" to confirm your request or cancel to go back to "main menu".
Your wife will be contacted electronically & will be informed of your whereabouts. A job check will let your employer know as well. Social Services will be sent your present "rap sheet" & they will make a decision on whether to "pick up your kids" & put them in a foster home until you comply with Edict 442a of the (cc#326) code of the Parenting act for your State.
***beep*** my puter time is up.
:O)
#125 Consumer Suggestion
AUTHOR: James - Calgary (Canada)
SUBMITTED: Friday, September 23, 2005
POSTED: Friday, September 23, 2005
Patrick;
I do care about people. However Patrick, how would you like it if someone came to your work & badgered you "just for fun"?
Not like they had an interest or anything. Just because they wanted to cause trouble?
How would you like it if I sent other people to "other thread(s)" that you had commented on & tried to make a fool of you?
What would you think about me? Would you think I was just "misguided"? Would you feel sympathy for me? Even if I pointed out your "spelling mistakes" & prompted your Employer to get rid of you?
Keep on going in your direction Patrick & you will be labled more as a fool. However for this thread, I respect you & your honest posts, that in this case. Make sense.
In that way I show that I am "above people" like you who do go to peoples workplaces & badger them. I not only respond "civily", but I need to repeat my civil explanation "over & over" as the person attacking thinks he can get "one up on me" by bringing up "old arguements", already dealt with, because he has no "new ones".
Yes Patrick I can be civil. I also can stay on subject for the "most part". I am sure Todd understands everything now. I am glad he had a place to vent & I hope my last post made him laugh.
Only for the good of others I write.
#126 Consumer Suggestion
AUTHOR: Paul - Los Angeles (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, September 23, 2005
POSTED: Friday, September 23, 2005
I understand that there are stores, such as this Wal-Mart, where you may eat food from their in-house deli and are expected to pay for it at the cashier when you exit. I've never been in such a place but I "get it" when it is explained to me, as some commentators here seem _not_ to understand. They mentioned eating "in the aisles" which is not what you are talking about, apparently. I assume you are talking about a quasi-food court sort of arrangement where you actually _sit down_ and eat your food, then pay via the cashier when you exit. And that the company _wants_ customers to do it this way -- that it's not just some accomodation they made just for you (as some here seem to think.)
Fine. Personally, I think this is a dumb and unpleasant way to do business. The idea of having customers carry their messy old food wrappers around the store with them, and having to hand them to a cashier who then has to laser-scan these messy used food wrappers strikes me as demeaning to all parties involved. Why not hand customers a computer print-out of what they've eaten from the deli, and let them hand the print-out to the cashier? That would be a lot cleaner and less prone to abuse.
But I'm not getting paid by Wal-Mart to come up with ideas to improve their business, and I don't care that much. The thought of actually _eating_ (let's call it "feeding") inside a Wal-Mart is even more nauseating to me than the thought of shopping at one.
Now, let's talk about the laser-scanning issue which seems to be Todd's problem. "Let's go talk to the cashier," you said, as if that would "clear up" the problem. It would not.
See, if the cashier only knows what you've eaten by the messy used wrappers (yuck) you hand to her, and she diligently laser-scans those into the register, that WILL NOT clear anything up if a customer LOSES one or more of the wrappers. Say, by accidentally dropping them in a wastebasket. (I'm not saying Todd did this, I'm just speculating as to what SOMEONE could do.)
If one or more of the used food wrappers is missing, it doesn't matter how diligent and accurately the cashier has done her job. There will STILL be something missing, and it WON'T show up on the register tape, and she CAN'T "clear it up." She doesn't know!
Maybe that's why the manager refused to go to the cashier to "clear it up."
Again, I think this is why this is a dumb system on the part of Wal-Mart. It's way too easy to lose some of those messy, used food wrappers on the way to the cashier, given the hugeness of the store. But it's not the cashier's fault.
Another thing: Todd seemed _too_ concerned that the cashier had scanned everything. He makes a point of having her confirm _twice_ that she scanned everything he handed her. What is the need to do this, when you are STANDING RIGHT THERE practically in front of her, and can SEE everything that she's doing? You handed her the items yourself. Either you saw her scan them or you didn't.
I understand that you said you didn't have time to read the print-out because you were in a hurry. But you had to be standing right there while she actually did the laser-scanning.
I'm NOT accusing you personally of anything (since I wasn't there) but writing your report like this gives the impression, maybe unintentionally, that you were trying to create an "alibi" by having the cashier take the possible blame. Thus your insistence that the manager "clear it up" with the cashier.
But based on what I wrote above about potential "lost" food wrappers (i.e. used wrappers that MAY have been ACCIDENTALLY discarded before you got to the cashier), even if the cashier did everything 100% right, and scanned everything you _gave_ her, there could be missing wrappers of eaten food and she would never have known about it. That would NOT be her fault.
Confirming "twice" that the cashier had scanned everything you _gave her_ would be meaningless, in this case.
That would also explain why the manager showed you wrappers from the trashcan. Now, you could reasonably argue that those wrappers were not yours, and that may be true. They'd have to prove those were your discarded wrappers that you failed (accidentally) to hand over to the cashier. But you didn't mention that in your report.
It's still a yucky way to run a "restaurant," and I will avoid consuming food-related items (I won't dignify it by calling it "dining") at this facility myself.
#127 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Stephanie - Shawnee (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 23, 2005
POSTED: Sunday, October 23, 2005
I don't think Wal-Mart cares about your religious beliefs. In fact, back when I shopped at WalMart (YEARS AGO) I saw nothing in the religion sections OTHER than Christian stuff and they refused to carry Kosher food. Did I file a complaint that I was discriminated against because I was Jewish? Ummm..no. I just looked elsewhere.
I read your original post and subsequent posts, and it is fairly obvious that you have some sort of mental illness. You may need to seek treatment or get your medication adjusted.
Also, if you are on disability (AKA living off my dime) why are you having children? If you can't work to support yourself, how can you raise children? If you have a mental illness (and I am on anti-depressants, so I am NOT being judgemental about that...but I work full time) and are not being treated, your children might be at risk from you. PLEASE GET TREATMENT.
#128 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Jarod - Macomb (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 23, 2005
POSTED: Sunday, October 23, 2005
Todd I have friends who work at the county jail, I also have friends who work in retail. I know about people being detained for things they may or may not have done. I also know about people with disabilities being discriminated against (its happened to my mom) for a company to get their money.
But one point that has been made...while your history is decent, and the court system was based on the "divine laws", now that doesn't hold up anymore. The courts are not going to hear your argument of being a Christian and that's not going to give you any merit whatsoever when it comes to convincing a judge or jury. They're gonna look at facts.
I don't know what the truth is nor do I really care. Its frustrating to me as a person to come here and try and read reports and spend an hour reading Scripture instead. I'm glad your strong in your faith and while I know all about your supposed to spread the word and work of God to others, some of us really would rather do without. As someone whose studied many religions in depth I've found they're essentially the same, don't steal, don't kill, what you do to others can come back at you, etc. If your gonna put religion into your case, do it in your own heart and mind, spouting it in a courtroom is going to get you thrown back in jail for contempt because its irrelevant to your case and spouting it here is just going to get people attacking you.
And for the record, I'm a parent to 2 children under age 6, I've asked the people at Walmart if its okay to open an box of crackers to give some to my fussing 1 year old and they've been okay with it. It may be against store policy but it does happen. I shop at Walmart because paying $4.39 for my body wash instead of $5.99 at Meijer is a better deal. Here in the metro Detroit suburbs there are very few "mom and pop" stores so I shop the major chains, and being on a limited budget I shop where its cheapest.
#129 Consumer Suggestion
AUTHOR: Joe - Platteville (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, October 24, 2005
POSTED: Monday, October 24, 2005
Don't we all remember when Christians burned people at the stake during the inquisitions? They all thought they were doing the right thing.
Stop playing the God card and deal with the hear and now. God doesn't show up in court, nor can anyone supoena him/her/it anyway.
I watched that "wife swap" show on TV and I can tell you I saw one HUGE ass fat woman on TV screaming Christianity things at everyone about...and she was completely INSANE and possibly psychotic to boot. Being Christian doesn't mean you get special treatment.
So you did or didn't do it...maybe your kid ate a candy bar when you weren't looking...that happens all the time. I would suggest if you believe in God to try to get him to be a witness for you in court to prove you are innocent.
Good luck....'cause the rest of us are sick of people using the God card.
#130 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Cheryl - Evanston (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, October 27, 2005
POSTED: Thursday, October 27, 2005
Personally the whole GOD WILL SAVE US AND CONDEMN OTHERS is a bit off the wall. gawd has nothing to do with Walmart.
#131 Update By Author
AUTHOR: Todd - Columbia (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, October 27, 2005
POSTED: Thursday, October 27, 2005
Well, well, aren't there many Truth-haters out there! But I see a few who understand my postings and know the truth of the matter. Let me clear something up with those who keep responding to my post and discriminating against me because of my faith.
"Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?" (II Corinthians 13:5, KJV)
FIRST: This is my posting and I have the freedom in this country that my family throughout the ages have fought and bleed blood for that freedom. So, if you do not like my post, then go elsewhere. If you do not like the freedom of this country move elsewhere. If you know you will loose that freedom in another country and decide to live in this country, then mind your own business and let me post what I wish on my own posting. In fact, you cannot stop me from posting what I wish, anyway. So your words of trying to silence me are in vain and do not matter. Therefore, I will continue and you can just go fizzle somewhere else. Period!
"Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened" (Romans 1:21, KJV). "But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men" (Matthew 15:9, KJV).
SECOND: As I have posted many times, my faith is part of me and I often speak in the formation because it is who I am. Again, if you do not like it, then surf somewhere else.
THIRD: I speak the truth that Wal-Mart did me wickedly, and I know God will punish them for their wickedness against a true man of God.
"For we can do nothing against the truth, but for the truth" (II Corinthians 13:8, KJV)
1. Wal-Mart falsely accused me!
2. Wal-Mart refused the truth and tampered with the facts!
3. Wal-Mart falsely punished me for no reason!
4. Wal-Mart threatens my wife and children!
5. Wal-Mart refuses to listen to reason and continues to attempt to destroy my life!
6. Wal-Mart is full of greed and therefore has blinded themselves to the truth.
7. Wal-Mart will be punished for their wickedness, if they do not repent and correct the evils; they have done to others and me.
FORTH: It is crystal clear that I was wronged by Wal-Mart, I can tell some of you have not read my postings, or otherwise you would see the truth of the matter. A few of my postings I made a prophecy that Wal-Mart would begin being punished for their wickedness against true people of God.
"Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong,
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