#1 Consumer Suggestion
AUTHOR: J - Dallas (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, May 08, 2004
POSTED: Sunday, May 09, 2004
You were wrong on the last part of your report.
Avoid J.B hunt and swift at all costs,too. And if
you are an owner-operator like me, avoid Landstar
at all costs too. And every other major trucking
company with more than 2,000 trucks.
#2 Ex-Employee
AUTHOR: Tiny - Green Bay (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, May 22, 2004
POSTED: Saturday, May 22, 2004
What on earth would ever possess you to allow someone to lie on your application? COME ON!!! Don't hold Schneider totally accountable for what you also let happen. If someone told me they were going to put false information on my application I would NEVER let them. You were filling out an application for a driving job there was an extensive background check. Did you honestly think NO ONE would ever see the discrepancy? Your just as accountable for this as this "Lisa" that finished your application, the second she told you she'd falisfy information for you, you should have asked for a manager.
And on a side note if your going to become a truck driver understand this "they didn't clean there yard" thing is minor wait til your up to your ankles in a customers muddy yard. It's impossible to keep a yard clean that 100's of trucks/trailers tear up day in and day out.
#3 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Priscilla - Birmingham (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, May 25, 2004
POSTED: Wednesday, May 26, 2004
I am sorry this happen to you, my name is Priscilla. I read your report. I believe that you didnt do nonthing wrong. Like you said you made a mistake on the application. You said yes to those question at first. I know what you mean. I work for schneider for a year. I believe you are talking about the online appication. I said yes to all those questions too. And a lady call me back to correct my mistakes.Now what you should have done is when you got to training on the first day report what that lady did. She was wrong about doing that. But you know what, you did make it thur Graduation. Thats not a easy thing to do. Many dont make it. Good Luck in the trucking industry.
#4 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - 31754 (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, June 12, 2004
POSTED: Saturday, June 12, 2004
I, had applied for the schneider traning school dec 2003 but they turned me down for having no work experience i explained to them the reason's for me having no job and everything but they told me i had to have 1 year of work experience without being fired but where do they expect for me to find work i'am 22 years old its been 6 months know and still no work i called all the places thats in my area they all say schneider is the only ticket for me to become a truck driver when they turned me down because of that i was heart broken devastatived waiting my whole life to be a truck driver because i grew up around it i have two family members who are truck drivers and know i'am stuck i don't know what to do to find a job but they informed me my application was in very good status i have a clean driving record and a clean background know what do i do i'am stuck all i do is just sit at home waiting and looking for a job.I guess all hopes of becoming a truck driver are gone i just can't except that fact.I, really wanted to start driving a truck when i was 21 or 22 and i thought schneider would be a perfect choice i would of had to pay them back for the training out of my earnings only for a year though not bad though know.It would be before i'am 24 years old before i can drive a truck i really wanted to do it know when i'am 22 i'am kind of scared and worried that i'll never get to do it sense i haven't found me a job and its been 6 months sense they turned me down.
#5 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Dave - Lone Tree (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, June 12, 2004
POSTED: Sunday, June 13, 2004
A couple post mention JB Hunt and some may get the impression that they train drivers due to the topic and subject matter of the original report..
As of this writing JB Hunt does not operate a driver training school and has not for a several years.
#6 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - 31754 (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, August 13, 2004
POSTED: Saturday, August 14, 2004
I, have decided not to bother with schneider national for the way they treated me last december when i applied for their training school
i couldn't help not having a job i graduated late they runied any chance of becoming a truck driver its been 8 months sense they turned me down back in dec still no job everybody gives me the excuse their not hiring they have put me in a very diffcult place they turned me down once what makes me think that they wont turn me down again even though i will get one year work experience they think they can treat people however they feel like schneider has just over looked my feelings they don't know how hard it has been on me trying to find a job even a small job mabye i shouldn't even learn how to drive a truck with all the horror stories i heard of how they treat people they fire more then they hire take my uncle for example he worked for this one trucking company BENNY WHITEHEAD INC OF Eufuala ALABAMA in early feb of last year he only worked for them like 3 months he had like a little fender bender the people were he was unloading told a lie about him to his boss a couple of days later he fired him he wouldn't give him his last pay check benny paul whitehead he forced him to sign a form in case of an accident the company is entilted to your last pay check no matter how hard you worked for it you will not get paid if i fire you over the accident in others wors they steal their drivers paychecks if they have one little accident and don't pay them for the work they had did after how schnieder treated me i don't care to be a truck driver anymore they took all the excitment out of me besides who wonts to get fired for no reason which is what alot of these trucking companys do they fire them more then they hire them they deserve not to have good decent drivers if all their going to do is treat them like crap mabye schnider has saved me from alot of pain and suffering after hearing all horror stories soon instead of 500,000 loseing drivers it will go up to 1 million of shortage of drivers if they keep this crap up these trucking companys deserve it! soon you will not see one truck on the rode because all the drivers have quit i wouldn't blame them working your tall off for these donkeys like the one company my uncle who wouldn't let them have his last weeks pay before they fired him for a little fender bender then where would the nation be without trucks hauling goods for people these trucking companys better get in shape and start treating drivers right who knows one day they all will go on strike cause drivers are sick of being on the rode all the time and being abused and mistreated bye their own company they work for after how schneider treated me i will not even think about going to their driving school i'll keep my $100 in my pocket besides give it to a bunch of rip off people like them who just over looked my feelings they told me is that fair in a real smart mouth hey if you knew that ya'll weren't going to except me why would you bother to call me and waste my time if your just going to get ugly with me for me wasting your time their needs to be a class action law suit agaisnt these trucking companys and schnieder needs to be at the top of the lists i really don't care how mad they get when they read this i'am just tired of being treating like this i don't deserve this kind of abuse because i never had a job before i told them the reason but i guess i wasn't just good enough for them.
#7 Employee
AUTHOR: Mike - Bakersfield (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, August 14, 2004
POSTED: Saturday, August 14, 2004
So many people get upset when the company finds something to contradict their statements or applications...
I always include a "Good Faith" Statement that I have typed up myself and will turn it in with any applications I complete as well. It goes like this:
The information provided was provided in good faith, and should be considered to be the most accurate I can recall at this time. Any discrepencies found in the information provided is not an attempt to provide false information or mis-lead in any way, as it is difficult to remember all experiences, times and dates, and people I've met, throughout a lifetime.
Thank you for your understanding.
#8 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - 31754 (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, August 15, 2004
POSTED: Monday, August 16, 2004
I'am, sorry for even thinking about schneider's driving school and for wasting my time with schneider know my chance's of becoming a truck driver are very slim or 0%.
Know, what do i do i can't afford no $5000 to pay to a trucking school this sucks all my opps and dreams of driving a truck are gone ever sense i was a kid i wanted to drive a truck it has always been a dream of mine know schneider has taken that away from me because i can't get me a job i was so hurt very hurt but after hearing some stories about schneider i'am glad i didn't sign a contract with them.
Know, that i have to take schneider of my list know how to i train to be a truck driver sense they runined it for me all of these trucking companys are ruthless people i don't care about schneider their other ways to get into the trucking industry but i'am having a hard time finding one after how schneider abused me turning me down i have lost all my confindence.
#9 Consumer Suggestion
AUTHOR: Bernadette - Omaha (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, August 31, 2004
POSTED: Tuesday, August 31, 2004
I worked for a lot of large companies and trust me more than just schnieder offers a training program.
sorry, …allowing you to give a competitors name would instigate others to just file against their competition, to only come back later to suggest their company… your comments on this policy are welcome! CLICK here to see why Rip-off Report, as a matter of policy, deleted either the name of another business, a phone number, link or e-mail address from this Report. Dont't let one company stop you from acheiving your dream. Someone will take you on. Just Don't ever let anyone falsify an application. THat was your fault also. You should have told her that you wanted that in your file. If nothing else if you still want to go with schnieder fax a copy of your indiana mvr. That is what they go by. Regardless don't let them make you give up your dream... Look on the net and you will find companies who will train you.
#10 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - 31754 (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, September 07, 2004
POSTED: Tuesday, September 07, 2004
I,do not know if someone at their office falsify any information on my application when i had applied but all i know if i got turned down for having no work experince not relating to driving why do you need to do this for they said my application was in good status but i needed to have one year work experince know its steptember i have found any work yet i have a good driving record with no speeding tickets or reckless driving i only had my license two years i got my license when i was 20 years old
i haven't ever been introuble with the law so my background is clean i just haven't ever had a job in the past.
I,have got over the hurt of not being accepted when i wanted to start driving a truck if schneider made such a fuss about me not never having a job how will other trucking company's except me why bother wasting money on a trucking driving school if a trucking company ain't going to except you for that reason.
#11 Consumer Suggestion
AUTHOR: Paul - Anaheim (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, September 11, 2004
POSTED: Saturday, September 11, 2004
Anyone out there want to be a truck driver? Let me explain what you will be doing, first. Then, tell me if it sounds like your dream job.
Trucking is damn hard. Oh, it's real easy to sit and steer the truck. That's not hard at all. The hard part is doing it all day, all night and late into the early hours of the morning. Your day goes like this. Wake up at 7:00 AM. Get the truck in line to deliver your load. Open the doors, back up to the dock, take in your papers. Try to go back to sleep for an hour while they unload. There is a fork-lift driving in and out of the trailer. It shakes the whole truck. But, you're so tired it won't matter. By, 9:00 your truck is empty. You get your next load over the truck computer. You drive 100 miles to go get it. Same thing again. Open doors, back up. Sleep while they load you. By now it's 1:00 in the afternoon. The load delivers at 7:00 AM the next morning. You need to stop and get fuel, about 30 minutes.
You need to get food where you get fuel. Then you need to drive 550 miles to your next delivery. If you start at 1:00 in the afternoon, you won't get there until 1:00 AM in the morning. You have to be up at 7:00 AM to deliver this load. You get 6 hours of sleep. Tomorrow you start all over again. Up at 7:00. Empty trailer.
Pick up next load. Drive all day and night. Day in and day out. Seven days a week. No day off. Day in and day out. You stay in the truck for 3-4 weeks. Then, you go home for two days. That's it. Somedays, you are so tired, you don't care anymore. Let the thing crash and burn. But, if you doze off for even 10 seconds, you will probably get killed. And you will kill an innocent person in a car who did absolutely nothing wrong at all. You see the trucks where the driver went to sleep. The tractor is crushed. The sleeper is crushed. The trailer is split open. The load is spread all over the shoulder. You can tell by looking that nobody made it out alive.
Showers? They're free, when you get fuel. But, it don't matter. You are so damned tired, you couldn't care whether or not you shower. Once, maybe twice a week. Each morning, I dragged myself out of bed, and put on the same filthy rags from the week before. Then, I stumbled into the receiver and handed them the bills. You eat all your food to go, the buffets. From Petro. Big steaks, fried chicken. Food is great. In the morning, you eat whatever is left over from the previous day. You can't eat it all. Too much food.
Dead tired, filthy dirty. Not that it matters. 75% of the other drivers are the same way. Nobody says anything to you. You drink a lot of coffee trying to stay alert. Every week, you get a paycheck. I usually ran 3000 to 4000 miles. I got $800 to $1000 gross. Sometimes as much as $1200. One week I ran 6879 paid miles. Pay was $1700. US Xpress. Idiot Xpress. Lunatic Xpress. You get about $600-$800 after taxes are taken out. But, you are working 100 hours a week or more. That's two and a half jobs. That's why you get paid all that money. It's for 2 1/2 times as much work.
The good part is that the money builds up fast. You get one buffet each day. To go. It lasts all day. Big coffee refill. Half-gallon cup. I spent $10-$12 a day total. Eat, sleep and drive. Piss in a soda bottle, in the truck. If I really have a lot of miles to go and I'm running late, I piss while I'm driving. No time to stop.
You hold the truck at top speed all day. Maybe 68 MPH. It's governed, or it would do 100. You set the cruise. You never back off unless you absolutely have no other choice. Rain, fog, light snow. Doesn't matter. Top speed. Just steer it through. The sooner you get to the next receiver, the sooner you can go to sleep. That's all you think about. You are so tired. But, you know that you have to force yourself to stay alert. One mistake, and you and a lot of innocent people die a horrible death. Crushed to death.
You get real good at it. You don't even think about shifting, or turning. It's automatic.
The fatigue will break you. I don't care who you are. You need 8 hours. You get 5 to 6. Then, an hour nap or so.
Trucking is damn hard. Don't let anyone fool you. Why do you think so many drivers quit? I loved to drive. I loved my little truck. There were some good days. On a three day run, you sleep until you wake up normally. You got the open road, the sunsets. Some nights, I'm running the 80 with the full moon in the sky. You see lakes. Rivers. Fields as far as the eye can see. I loved my little truck. I had a little toy Century at most companies. It's a real little truck. Super short, like a mini-van. Detroit 60, or cummins n14. 430 to 500's. Ten speed, roadranger or rockwell. Buttery smooth shifting. Skylight. Full stand-up condo. I got really good with it, too. Hauled millions of dollars every month. Reefer, some dry vans, too. With flats, you tie and tarp the load. More work.
The companies are the one's that always push you. If you could get more sleep, this would be a great job. But, you can't. You die 10 to 15 years early because of the lack of sleep.
The companies will cheat you. They lie to you. They don't pay right. You have to call up every week and fight to get what they owe you. Same thing every week.
You will really have to love driving. It's all you do. Eventually the fatigue will break you. You get so tired you don't care anymore. Go see for yourself. Don't believe me. Learn the hard way. You'll see.
#12 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Helene - Austin (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, September 13, 2004
POSTED: Tuesday, September 14, 2004
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS
I got sick and tired of being a subcontractor from private security companies. They cheat you too. They have so many ways of cheating you, it is unbelievable!
I used to be a security officer at a trucking terminal. Several of them in fact and I used to wish I was in a big rig and one of the drivers let me try out his nine-speed ANTEATER in the yard. Since I have been driving a standard shift since I was a kid this was some fun to me. I wished like anything I got to go somewhere because I was always left behind signing the guys in and out.
When I was a security patrol driver, I would put 603 miles EVERY NIGHT on my little pickup. The private security company kept stacking more and more work on me, more places to check, in efforts to get me to quit but I checked them all.
I did this for two years! Finally, a guy from another security company managed to infiltrate the company from within and managed to take all of the accounts for the security company he really worked for. NOW I AM out of work!
And so on and so on and so on and so on.
I got FED up so I checked into going to a truck driving school. I was so desparate to get OUT of being a security services subcontractor, I didn't care what I signed as long as I got OUTTA there.
The school may still be in business in Dallas/Ft. Worth. I am not going to give their name anyway and it woudln't matter because I am sure that there are a lot of other sleazy operations willing to take your money and student loan that you will sign yourself into everlasting payments... they keep raising the interest on you.
If you don't pay, they will take your income tax refunds and social security checks away from you.
Yep, I was that desparate.
To make matters worse, I was a woman but I had to earn a living too. In those days, women just did NOT go into truckdriving. It was OK to marry one who did and be a codriver but to set out on your own was like asking for a trip to hell and that's exactly what you would get OK.
Well, we were just about ready to go to the part where you get to drive and then the State trooper checks you out to see if you qualify for your license or not... I heard the instructor tell another male student that it was too danme bad but none of the women in here are going to be working because nobody is going to hire them. This was back in 1988 or so, I can't remember. Well, I hadn't signed my student loan papers yet so I called the place that was supposed to be making these student loans and told them to cancel mine, that I woudln't be able to pay it back and then I just left... I had a Class A learning permit to drive a semi BUT the new CDL requirment came into effect a few months later making everything those guys learned obsolete.By the Grace of G*d I was not ripped off. Some of the guys became bus drivers for Grayhound and others joined Teamsters and drove on the East Coast but I remained a security officer standing outside guarding a cold, busy parking lot at Christmas with no money to buy presents...
Right now, I am unemployed. I have to eat a soup kitchens. I have slept as bus stops and I have a few restrooms where I can go and wash up and I make the circuit. They have washing machines at the homeless facility.
One thing about driving a truck, I would have a roof over my head while I was drivng. I would get to see places I have never seen before, I don't care if it is just space around the eternal white line. I would be able to eat something and I could wear something besides these lousy things rich people throw away for people like me. I would be relatively cool in the summer and warm in the winter --at least, it would be better than standing around on the street and keep applying for jobs which no longer exist.
Many of the high-tech places I guarded have been closed up, bankrupted, or gone OVERSEAS. They can hire eight gurkas for what they could pay me even at minimum wage to guard the facilities there. Many of the security companies where I used to work have been bought up by overseas corporations and they aren't hiring right now because there are no contracts for them. Nobody can afford security anymore.At this rate, there will be nothing left to guard.
It sure looks good right now to me.
You all make a convincing argument against going with Schneider,Swift or the OTHER Big Guys. But where DO I go for a Job in the meantime? I have a chance to go to truckdriving school now given by a junior college.
IF I go, where should I go to work when I get out??????.
#13 Consumer Suggestion
AUTHOR: Paul - Anaheim (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, September 15, 2004
POSTED: Wednesday, September 15, 2004
Helene, it's Paul, from above. I can understand your situation exactly. All that's left is bullshit jobs anymore. Nobody wants to pay anything. But the rents and the gas and food prices keep going up. How can you live on the $8 per hour of a security job? No wonder you can't buy presents.
First, find a company to train you. A trucking company, not a school. Two reasons. First, pass the school, and you got a job waiting. Second, it's faster that way. You find a trucking company by searching the web. They don't allow web site names here or else I'd just give you a name. Search for truck driving job/student. There are tons of sites.
Call the jobs, get them to send applications. Many let you apply right over the phone. You pack up your stuff and get on a bus to their terminal. There, you get a hotel. They pay bus and motel. Not food. Bring money. School is 2 to 3 weeks. You need to eat all that time. Everything else is provided. You get a permit. Then you drive. After you learn, you go take the DMV test in a school truck. After school, you go out with a trainer for 3 to 4 weeks. Pick a woman. At least you won't have to worry about sex hassles that way.
The minute you start running with a trainer, you get the training wage, about $300 a week. It's food and a little more. If you can stick out the trainer, you can run solo (by yourself) or team with another woman. I'd avoid the teams. Even another woman. Two people in a truck, both dead tired. Any little thing sets you off. Besides, the truck runs constantly team. She drives, you sleep. Screw that. Run solo.
All the fleets will try to run you to death. Do as much as you can. But, whatever you do, don't go to sleep at the wheel. It's the last thing you will ever do.
You live in truck. Engine runs all night to keep you warm. Or cool. Buy food in truck stops. Spend $100 a week. You make $700. Save $600 each week. Do this for 10 weeks and you have $6,000. That will buy you a motorhome to live in. Get a class c unit, on a van front end. About 24 feet long. Full tub, not a phone booth shower. Make sure everything works. Engine/trans is very important, so stay away from fixer-uppers with bad engines.
Once you have it, register and license plates. Keep it legal. Nobody can take it away. If you drive truck, put it in terminal parking while you're out.
Trucking isn't a good job, but it will put a roof over your head and money in your pocket fast. Just be carefull. Remember, you are running the thing full speed in the snow and rain. Plus, you're always dead tired. Easy to make a mistake that way. Trainers don't show you much. They don't care about training. They get paid for all your miles. Yes, you can make money. But, you can also die a horrible death too. If you let the truck slide off the road in the snow, it'll go down a bank and roll over. Crushed behind the wheel.
I'm a natural driver. I'm smart and I understand the vehicle and how to push it to the limits. Trucks roll over easy. Top-heavy. You watch tight turns in off-ramps, or the thing will flip on you.
I never felt the least bit of fear, but I understand the truck. Other drivers weren't so lucky. The most common way to get hurt is falling out. You miss the step and break an ankle. Happens all the time.
Us Xpress has auto-shifts. Like automatics. No shifting. Super easy. I did big miles with them. They cheat you. All of them do. But, call and straighten it out each week. Keep track of the trips you do.
You will get screwed, but you will make enough to get back on your feet real quick. Buy an RV. Park it on the street. No rent to pay. Just food and gas. Use the trucking job to get this. Save your money. Trucking for 6 months. Then, maybe go to school and try to get skill for a better job.
Don't tell truck company that you only want 6 months. Tell them permanent job, for years. They expect you to stay and drive to pay for your school training. Tons of drivers quit. They just write it off. You won't get your last check.
Don't worry about being a woman. If you drive, the company makes money on you. They don't care if you are a man or a woman. The schools pass anybody. Don't hit anything. You pass. They give the trucks to anybody. Safe. Unsafe. Doesn't matter. Nobody drives well in the beginning.
Expect to be dead tired and filthy dirty. Forget makeup. Fingernails. You look like a homeless. But, you got $5,000 in your pocket. That's what matters. Be carefull late night rest areas. Or truck stops. Stay away from truck guys. They just want ass. Some get disease from commercial(prostitutes). Besides, you'll be too tired all the time. As a woman, it helps to be filthy and dirty. Nobody will want to rape you. Too dirty. Don't comb hair. Same filthy clothes. When you look like that, nobody will bother you. You won't get robbed either. You don't look like you have a dime to your name.
Get in, get your money, and get back on your feet. Quit after you have an RV and $5,000. Find a better job. Move here to Los Angeles if you can't find work there. An RV lets you go where the jobs are. Good luck Helene. Check for the companies that hire new drivers. Post back here if you have any problems. I'll check back. Use the local library if you're homeless. Library computers. They have internet.
#14 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Greg - York (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, October 07, 2004
POSTED: Thursday, October 07, 2004
I come into this from a different angle. I ran a highly successful truck driving school at a local community college for almost 7 years. I wrote it from Day#1. We ran our students for 320hrs both classroom and road work in Maryland. I would advise you NOT to go into a company sponsored training program as then you become "an endentured" employee almost. They will make you sign a contract with them stating that if you should resign or be terminated you can and will be held liable for your school. This cost can sometimes be as high as $10,000. Instead, try going into your local unemployment agency and applying for Job Training Grant. A grant is money that you don't pay back. Its worth a shot. A student loan with a cosignor is another option. Only do the company training as a last possible resort.
I also drove over 1,000,000 miles of cross country work for one of the best Black & Chrome flatbed companies out there today and while I will concur somewhat with your evaluation of the trucking lifestyle, its important to ask yourselves a question...Where else can you, with your currnet employment & education background make $1,000 per week?
Now, in my job as Director of Safety and Training for a 56 truck National Fleet, here is why a few of you can't get jobs...LEARN TO WRITE AND SPELL. You must be able to write complete and coherent sentences and answer basic questions in order to get a job. I as an employer look at you as the representative of my company to my customer. You need to walk the walk, talk the talk and learn how to do it right.
#15 Consumer Suggestion
AUTHOR: Helene - Austin (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, October 08, 2004
POSTED: Friday, October 08, 2004
I would like to thank the two gentleman who commented on my comment I left here previously.
I attended a WIA session to find out how to get the Federal Work Investment Act grant that pays for you to get an education ASAP and TRUCK DRIVING SCHOOL. Good thing I don't have any kids. The room was full of women with kids. Little kids. Newborns.Unhappy kids old enough to get an idea of what was going on. Maybe it was dreams of forever marriages that went bad or kids born in the United States so the rest of the family could stay.Maybe they had kids because without them in Texas, you don't get any benefits.
Lots of very desparate folks are in that room. There was standing room only. Scary. Kids crying and a few of the adults looking used up and crying in there.Even some big tough-looking guys. Ex-cons were scared because if they can't get a job to pay the cost of their parole, they go back.
Somebody in there told me that George Bush was the only other President besides Herbert Hoover to have millions of American jobs LOST during his Administration. I don't care-- all I want to do is get a job preferably BEFORE the election because the hot air they are using to talk up this economy might evaporate. One of the guys in there was so hungry, he passed out. They had to call EMS to take him away.He didn't look good lying on the gurney.
I did make a follow-up appointment with a WIA caseworker.Iremembered the day I was to be there but she forgot I was coming in. It's a numbers game and there are too many numbers.
I forced to remember me and I got in to see her. The entire time, she stared at me like she really had some other place she needed to be --yesterday. Maybe she had seen too much desparation already.
She listened to my story. Didn't bother to fill out one of those manilla files to download my case. Maybe she was overbudget on manilla file folders. She finally said that I should talk to the truck driving instructor guy at the local community college. No follow-up appointment scheduled for me.
I had been in touch with a trucking outfit in Dallas, TX --Stephens Transport-- that teaches you how to drive reefer rigs in their own school. I used to guard their corporate offices a few years ago. They feed you while you're in school, I hear. I was all set to go but then they tell me that if you are a first-time driver and you have any breaks in your three-year employment history, you can't drive for them or attend their schools and I had other trucking company-run schools tell me the same thing. It allegedly has something to do with Homeland Security and the Transportation Security Agency.
Well, I went to the e-the people.com web site and I found the e-mail addresses of my federal elected officials and told them about what was going on. They gave the trucking companies hell for that stupid requirement. It makes no sense that you can't get a job or a position in a company-run truck driving school BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN UNEMPLOYED FOR TWO YEARS OUT OF THREE --and fast approaching THREE AND you are an American citizen with NO criminal history and a clean driving record!
Well, I am living proof that politicians can't make jobs because although they did raise hell on my behalf, I still have NO JOB. They did do SOMETHING though. Now, if you have a gap in your three-year employment history, you are supposed to give the trucking company FIVE letters written on letterhead stationery explaining your activities for the time that you were out of work. Confused? I was too. Still am. Nobody I contacted can explain what it means.
I am not a criminal... I have a clean driving record(except for one "no liability insurance" entry which was automatically entered when that manditory insurance law went into effect) and a clean criminal history.No kids. NO car. No electricity. No home phone but my cell phone works OK when I can find a place to charge it.If I don't find work I will lose the house and land my Dad left.
I am not sure what to do. I guess I will call the guy at the community college and see if the gap in employment history is going to keep me out of that school too.
At the rate I am going, I might have to go to Iraq as a floor sweeper and then people might see my head chopped off on El Ja-Zeera TV or the Internet. It beats staking out these upscale sidewalk bistros and grabbing the food that some anorexic rich person leaves behind, then running like hell! I don't run very well these days and don't want to slip on the ice this winter.
I was one of 300 applicants for a "junk job" yesterday. Somebody who has a computer in their house grabbed the job before it ever had the chance to make it to the newspaper.
I still want to drive. Even after I saw the photo of that van stranded on the bridge by the hurricane in Florida and the cab was GONE...I am afraid I wouldn't have made that trip. Even if he had made it across that bridge, the place where he was going to deliver might not have been there anymore. I think I would have called my dispatcher or my delivery destination to confirm that the business even still existed before I went on the bridge.
No way I would ever be mistaken for a "lot lizard." One sight of me in a micro mini and that lot would clear out for sure!I am a respectable lady and I am not into the Honkey Tonk Queen pathos or the "High Ho, it's off to 'work' I go" threads. I like military surplus because it lasts for a long time and steel-toed duty boots that look like athletic shoes. Surprise! And short hair is easier to keep clean. Just find a convenient sink and give it a hit with shampoo from a small bottle and you're good to go.Couldn't afford face paint anyway. When it gets hot, it runs down your face and stains your clothes.
Regarding customer service, all the drivers ever saw at the Albertson's Warehouse and the computer company's warehouse were the guys in receiving and the security officers like I was then. They never saw any executives in any place.
They just pulled up, confirmed their apppointments for the dock doors and that was it until we woke them up in the morning so they could unload on time.
The last thing I need is to get in debt to some rip-off driver school with a student loan I can never repay because the interest keeps rising on me, just like the "vigresh" on Mafia loans, incidentally!And if you can't repay the student loan, they will take your income tax return --IF you ever work again AND your entire social security check, I hear.
Got to do something because winter is coming.
Thanks for the ideas though. I will see what happens.
#16 Consumer Suggestion
AUTHOR: Paul - Anaheim (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, October 08, 2004
POSTED: Friday, October 08, 2004
Quit screwing around with nonsense!
If you have been out of work, here's what you do.
Find a friend with a working phone. Make up a company name. United security. There, I made up one for you. Use your friends address and phone. Tell your friend to answer the phone with "united security" when they call.
Your friend can say that you worked there between 03 and 04, or what ever the dates you need. Get your stories straight in advance.
They call once, and ask a few questions. That's it. It's no big deal.
Quit screwing around with stupid WIA nonsense. You're wasting your time there.
HTTP://WWW.CDLJOBS.COM/STUDENTS.HTM
WWW.INFOPORIUM.COM/TRUCKSCHOOLS
WWW.1800CDLJOBS.COM
WWW.1800DRIVERS.COM
WWW.CDLJOBS.COM
WWW.CDLTRUCKERS.COM
WWW.CLASSADRIVERS.COM
WWW.DRIVERS4HIRE.COM
WWW.DRIVINGFORCEMAG.COM
WWW.ETRUCKERJOBSONLINE.COM
WWW.EVERYTRUCKJOB.COM
WWW.FLEETDIRECTORY.COM
WWW.HOTCDLJOBS.COM
WWW.JUSTTRUCKINGJOBS.COM
WWW.LAYOVER.COM
WWW.PROFESSIONALTRUCKER.COM
WWW.TRUCK.NET
WWW.TRUCKDRIVER.COM
WWW.TRUCKER.COM
WWW.TRUCKERS.COM
WWW.TRUCKINGJOBS.COM
Go to the top site, select student/needs training. Pick one of the companies and go. CRST hires right over the phone. Gather up yout trash and get on the Greyhound to them.
Don't worry about the stupid loan. They go through hundreds of drivers every year. Most of them never repay the loan!
Get a company, any company, to set you up with a Greyhound ticket. Get on bus and go. Do three weeks of school. Then, in the truck and start making money.
If you keep screwing around with nonsense, you're gonna starve!
#17 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - 31754 (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, October 08, 2004
POSTED: Saturday, October 09, 2004
WILL NOT BOTHER WITH SCHNEIDER NATIONAL AGAIN FOR THEM RUINING MY CHANCE'S OF BECOMING A TRUCK DRIVER
I got this same nonsense about the 3 year work history when i applied for schneider's training school i did not know that you had to have a 3 year work history to apply for a traning school i gave the reason why i didn't have a job to schneider i told them that i was in highschool for the last 3 year's i had quit school well not completely left school me and my mother had some issue's with the school that i was attending so i just decided to leave that school i was moving around alot also those three year's and around my mother's work time i couldn't work.After i told schneider the rep. talked to her mananger and got back with me i was turned down the mananger told me that i needed to have at lease one year of employment without being fired they didn't consider well what if the boss has to layoff some employee's that happen's sometime's without nothing being you'er fault they have to at lease consider that employee's do lay off people from time to time that's something that you gotta worry about on the job.Well,i have been looking for a job in my town but no luck yet they all give a story that there not hiring that they have all the work they need or i don't have work experince which really suck's for me guess my change's of learning how to be a truck driver are gone schneider has ruined my chance's they also told me that my application was in very good status i have a clean driving record and no criminal record so i don't get what the problem is i guess they want me to work at some junk job that doesn't pay worth a crap for a year.It,is know october and still i haven't found no job i called around but nothing i do not know what to do and i do not have $5,000 to pay to a trucking school which i wouldn't do anyway's i'll would be ripped of there schneider has ruin my change's of becoming a truck driver you can't even get into a trucking school because you haven't worked for 3 year's this is all nonsense and "BULL CRAP" so i don't know what to do anymore.Well,good thing is that i grauated highschool and got my diploma.
#18 Consumer Suggestion
AUTHOR: Helene - Austin (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, October 11, 2004
POSTED: Monday, October 11, 2004
Again, lots of thanks to the folks. who responded to my posting
Charles, you are still young enough to get in the Job Corps. I knew a relative who did and they trained him to be a mechanic and he hung around a little bit more and got the body shop training too. He's got his own shop now and can tell the world to go fly away. The last I heard, he was doing OK. I don't know where he is because almost everybody in my family is passed away and people just disappear but as a young man, you don't have to keep putting in for jobs where there are NO jobs. And because you are a YOUNG MAN, somebody will be willing to give you a break.
Job Corps is free of charge to you. It's better than the military right now --or so it seems.
You might also qualify for a low-income student GRANT that you don't pay back. They call it a FARFSA. I looked into it. They might pay for your truck driving class at the local junior college. You will have to say that neither one of your parents attended high school, much less college and that you come from "Other" regarding race, ethnicity, etc. I am mainly American Indian even though I have a European last name.
And I want to thank Paul for the concern.
If you know anybody who is desparate enough to relocate to AUSTIN,TX land of the celebrity endorsements --- DON'T. Unless you have a State of Texas job ( and that's not too secure, one agency laid of 4,000 employees statewide and went with subcontractors and temps) or a University of Texas job or you made your money somewhere else and have enough of it to live in the most expensive place in Texas( even worse than Dallas or Houston!) FORGET IT! Pass it on.
THERE ARE NO JOBS HERE!
This place is FULL UP with people who came here and BUSTED OUT! They live in their cars and the homeless shelters are to CAPACITY and the food kitches run out and there is NOTHING here for anybody. Even with the influx of "ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS" which has made a bad situation even worse.
There are lines out the door at the Workforce Commission here and about 100 people for every job opening. YOU CAN'T EVEN GET A DISHWASHER JOB HERE! And truck driving jobs --locals-- are paying minimum wage! They would pay lower but I don't think that the people would stand for it. Pretty soon, they just might not have the choice.
Thanks for the list of trucking companies. If they are willing to talk to me, I am willing to drive for them. I am used to high centers of gravity as I had a Chrysler mini-van and one of those Ford Explorers --BIG difference between that and the Anteater and the old KWs I got to check out when I was guarding trucking terminals but the principal is the same, turn to sharp after stopping too soon and you will be in the deep stuff.
I've got my work before me and I would rather drive a standard shift on an icey road than an automatic. And winters in this pace are VERRRRRY COLD and HUMID. Pneumonia weather!
#19 Consumer Suggestion
AUTHOR: Brian - Niagara Falls (Canada)
SUBMITTED: Monday, November 15, 2004
POSTED: Monday, November 15, 2004
I just thought I could offer a little bit of clarity to the trucking industry for a few of you. First off, I have been in the trucking industry for about 16 years in one way or another. My first driving job was for Schneider National, it wasn't the best job I've ever had, but it certainly wasn't the worst either. I then drove for a large food service company for a few years, until some injuries forced me to leave.
About 5 years ago I bought my first truck, and that immediately changed my whole outlook on the trucking companies themselves. I now have 4 trucks of my own, with drivers in all of them. I stopped driving over a year ago to better manage my company. I'll let you in on a little secret, being a driver is alot easier, and pays ALOT more than owning the trucks!
Anyways, I'll get to my point, for those of you, Charles in particular, who blame one company for "ending" your career (which, you have never even started), you need to take a look at it from their point of view. First off, they DO NOT owe you a job, they hire people who meet their criteria, it's not their fault if you don't. Second, it's their ass on the line if anything happens while you're driving their equipment. If you have an accident, it's their insurance (Schneider, along with other major carriers, are self insured, so it's their cash), their equipment, their freight claims, and their name on the news and in the papers, not yours. And if anyone is injured, they will be dragged into court for the lawsuits in the millions of dollars, not you. And lastly, as another posted earlier, you have to be able to at least spell correctly, you are representing the company you drive for (often, you are the only representative the customer will see).
I agree that it is a very hard lifestyle (trucking is not a job, it's a lifestyle), and it's defineately not for everyone, but you can earn alot of money doing it. My drivers make $1200-$1400/week, and they're home every weekend (they're also EXPERIENCED drivers), so don't expect that kind of money the day you start driving. As for the comments about never showering, you need to take a better look around, the industry has changed alot in the past decade, chances are people are noticing you, they're just too polite to say anything. Besides, you're just adding to the bad image alot of people still have of the trucking industry. I know it's not always possible to shower every day, but once or twice a week???
It's a demanding career, both mentally and physically, but if you do it smartly and safely, it can be a very rewarding one. There is a massive driver shortage across The US and Canada, and good drivers are in huge demand. Without a University education, you'll have a hard time finding better pay (even better than most with a University ed).
Just remember, nobody OWES you a job! If that's the attitude you're presenting to employers, that's why you're still unemployed! Change your attitude and I'd bet your luck will change too!
Anyways, good luck to all of you.
Keep the rubber side down!
#20 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - 31754 (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 16, 2004
POSTED: Tuesday, November 16, 2004
I,disagree with what you said about if their was an accident,schneider didn't accuse me of going to cause accident's while on the road they didn't tell me oh you will be a very dangerous hazard on the road's that's why they have a driving school to teach you how to drive a truck i wouldn't cause any accident's either while i'am driving which is what you are refering to in your response schneider wouldn't except me into their training school me not being employeed for two year's so i don't appericate you accusing me of going to cause accident's was for the ground's for schenider national i just didn't have any work experince they didn't say we didn't hire you because you are going to cause accident's and bring lawsuit's agaisnt us i'am sure if i was going to be a hazard they would check my background and my driving record i have a clean background with no crimnal record i have a clean driving record i have recieved no speeding ticket's within the last 3 year's,the only problem was i have never had a job before because i was still in highschool i explained to them about all that but they still turned down i was just upset they wouldn't except me because of that reason they said my application was in very good status but for me to have one year work experince employeed.I,do not know what the problem was with no work experince for me not being excepted into the driving school all i know is i was turned down for having no job so i don't know what the problem was with all that,schneider didn't accuse me of going to cause accident's for the reason for not excepting me into their driving school.I,wouldn't bother to apply with schneider even if i did get one year experince for how they turned me down they are other trucking company's out there with driving school's just upset that they turned me down because of that reason i just have to go threw all the hassle of finding a job waiting two to three month's before they hire me all during that time i could have had my training and already driving and working but they didn't consider with me having no work experince that it would be considered very diffcult me getting work any where else with me having no work experince.
#21 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Eric - Denver (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 23, 2004
POSTED: Tuesday, November 23, 2004
The FMCSA (the government), requires that all drivers provide specific information on a job application. The FMCSA are the people that require trucking companies to collect your last three years of employment. It is to prevent accidents. It is the way the government devised to get you off the road if you are a bad driver.
Companies in turn have begun to use it as a screening process. If you have not worked at all in THREE YEARS, or if you have had 10 jobs in THREE YEARS, then you probably will not be a successful employee. Like the gentleman said above "most people never pay back their loans". They have to be able to screen out some of the riff-raff. This is a $50,000 a year job. You do not have to be a rocket-scientist but you do have to have some common sense.
You can drive a truck for living, or you can be a teacher, or mechanic or welder but any job that requires specified training is going to cost you money and have specific requirements. Schneider does not have anything to do with this. If you fall down and hurt yourself on your first day of training, and you lie and cannot spell it is probably a good indicator that you cannot be trusted with a $130,000 truck and trailer. Out in the country alone, looking at sunsets and rolling over the top of cars. I would look for a new carrer, something safe like a restaturant or grocery store.
#22 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Joe - Austin (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 23, 2004
POSTED: Tuesday, November 23, 2004
Not true.
I wrote to my elected officials and told them that it was ironic that I was an American citizen with a clean driving history and clean driving record and I could not get a job because I was unemployed since 2001 BECAUSE MUCH OF THE TEXAS ECONOMY IS IN A DEPRESSION IN CASE NOBODY'S PAYING ATTENTION!
I have friends forced to go to Iraq and risk getting their heads chopped off because they couldn't get work here. They might drive over a land mine and get blown up or permanently disabled that way.
The three-year requirement was designed to keep TERRORISTS from getting a truck driver job because if you will remember, Timothy McVey and the domestic terrorists who were credited with exploding the Federal Building in Oklahoma City used a Ryder truck. Like Abduhl or Akkbar or whomsoever aren't going to say that a Terrorist money-laundering outfit with a deep cover didn't give them a job...You know their friends who own businesses will claim that they worked there IF they really wanted to. They can get past it. So can the illegal Mexican truck drivers who are unsafe and underpaid that all of the American truck companies want to hire because they will allegedly drive for four cents a mile! It is hard-working American citizens who have been out of work THROUGH NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN who were kept from getting jobs with that TSA policy!It was keeping AMERICANS out of work and letting terrorists come right on in. When my elected officials realized that I had a point, they got the Transportation Security Administration to relax that requirement a bit.
Remember all of those wild rumors that terrorsts were going to hijack then blow up a semi in their next endeavors? Well, that is one of the reasons that act was thrown in the requirments for truck driving ---without a thought for the welfare of honest, hard-working yet UNEMPLOYED American who want to work and can't find it!It lookedlike a real good secure quick fix but it HURT the American TRUCKER and those who wanted to learn to be.
And the three years unbroken job history only applied to inexperienced truckers and truck driving school students. For the more experienced one, they will have to have a 10 year history with no breaks in service!
I still want to drive a truck. Someday, maybe I will. I have the basics down that I learned before everybody had to give up their State truck driving licenses and get a federal CDL.
Used to be in times when jobs were easy to come by, anybody who didn't have one was a professional bum, chronic unemployed wino who didn't want a job and wouldn't have worked if someone had come to get him and take him to the site in a limo!
Time are a little more difficult now.
I still haven't tried to go to truck driving school.
#23 Consumer Suggestion
AUTHOR: Eric - Denver (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 30, 2004
POSTED: Tuesday, November 30, 2004
The three year job history requirement was around long before the TSA. The TSA wants a more extensive background check for drivers of hazardous materials. They still have not finalized the process. They have pushed back the date, requiring this check, for three years. They just extended it again. Timothy Mcveigh did not need a CDL to rent his Ryder truck, it fell under the weight limit. Any yahoo can go down to U-Haul and rent a truck without a background check.
The theory behind background checks was to prevent accidents. In the past small trucking companies would hire anyone with a license. A driver that was accident prone could move from job to job and accident to accident.
Trucking companies do not care if you have not worked for the last three years. If you have not worked they need documentation to put in your file (tax returns, unemployment receipts). If you are a qualified driver you can find a job.
The federal government is a huge entity. The left does not always know what the right hand is doing. The entity that requlates the trucking industry is the FMCSA. When the FMCSA association walks into audit a trucking company, the first thing they want is the drivers file. On the drivers application, it asks for a 10 year job history. If there are any gaps in employment, they simply want documentation. A statement as to why, tax returns (if self employed, etc.). If there are any undocumented gaps on a drivers application than the company gets a fine.
Sure, trucking companies use this information as a part of their screening process. If they want to hire the best possible employee. Just like any other high paying job. Have ever been to a job interview? They ask you questions. It is not the "man" trying to keep you down. When you were a child you were taught that your actions have consequences, maybe not today. If you have a poor driving history than they may not wnat you driving their truck. If you were truly unemployed for three years, thru no fault of your own, than I guarantee you can find a job driving a truck. All you have to do is document the reason.
The trucking industry, like no other, is ALWAYS in constant demand of Qualified drivers. They have never experienced an extensive layoff, freight must move. Carriers that run all 48 states have a hard time recruiting drivers. To some it is a hard life; away from your family for weeks at a time, sleeping in a truck. If you want to do this you can, just follow the rules, the background check is not that big of a deal. Go down to your local truck stop and look around at the drivers. They all had to do it. Do they look like they passed a real rigorous screening process? They probably look just like you.
#24 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Mike - HAmpton (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, January 05, 2005
POSTED: Wednesday, January 05, 2005
Does any one have any suggestions on becoming an Independent Lease Contractor or Independent Contractor. I'm 23 yrs. old and I some day wish to own a trucking business. I want to learn about the business and I figure that going out there and doing it would be best. I don't have a CDL so therefore I've been looking at some of the company paid training program. Reason why I'm looking at these programs is because I can't afford to put in the time at a college or private school training program and also the money. Currently, I work fulltime as Police Officer and have a family. Any input would be of great help in me deciding if I want to pursue this goal.
Thank You,
#25 Consumer Suggestion
AUTHOR: Paul - Anaheim (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, January 06, 2005
POSTED: Thursday, January 06, 2005
When you run for a trucking company and lease their equipment, they make all the money.
You may get $3000 checks each week. But, by the time you pay out all the expenses, you're lucky to have $750 left for yourself. And, you owe taxes on that!
That's for working 100 or more hours each week! There's no money in the trucking industry.
The people that do it will all tell you that. The reason they stay is because they love the work. The freedom. The roads.
I loved all that too. But, money is important. Check the web for truck driving books. There are several companies that sell guides on becoming an owner/operator or owning a trucking business.
Read the books. Learn all you can about the job. That way, at least you have a fighting chance.
Search google for:
Reference Books for Professional Truckers
The Successful Truck Owner Operator
Good luck, you're gonna need it!
#26 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Curt - Aurora (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, January 15, 2005
POSTED: Saturday, January 15, 2005
first of all,
you people are whiners and complainers. I drive for a big company, have done it for a long time. I love it, make good money good home time. maybe the reason you can't get a job is, you can't spell. you probably couldn't even spell your name right on the application. If the company really wanted you they would have kept you. For the guy who was whining about how long the day is...all i have to say is deal with it or find a new line of work! be proactive don't cry about it. Some folks think trucking is easy as pie...Wrong its hard work. It aint just sitting behind the wheel steering the truck, its paperwork, laws, compliance and having the mentality to do it. If all you have to say is bad things about my industry...then we don't need people like you! You people hung yourselves nobody did it for you. I went to training at Schneider National, i got right in, there training blows. My advice...Go find a new line of work. Or go to a community College, better training Maybe welfare? no because then i am supporting you. Cry me a river, Build a bridge and get over it. Clean up your language, you people are part of the reason trucking has a bad name, swearing only shows your true intelligence and your mentality.
#27 Employee
AUTHOR: Mark - Herman (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, February 15, 2005
POSTED: Tuesday, February 15, 2005
The problem with swift where I work and all the big companies is simple. every one gets a chance to try to drive a truck for them. It is the in door to the industry. By definition they are a training company there is a chance to have a job if you can drive a truck with out hitting something.Unfortunately most people (90%) run into to something within the first year of running a truck. Generally this is not a fatality but a few thousand dollars of property damage.If you add the wages at a training company to the ten thousand dollars of damage a new person on average committs every year you get to the approximate wages earned by a three year driver.
the best approach is to go to the big company and put up with the stuff for year if you don't have any accidents then you can move to a better more selective and higher paying position.
the other secret is don't take any shit off of them. don't run illegal and do it the safe way or not at all. no matter what you want just go ahead and demand it and add a safety reason to the arguement. if you say you will do it then complete the mission. If you say you won't do it then don't do it.never say you will do something and then back out.I been with swift for six months and in six more I may go else where if I haven't hit something. good luck be safe and get your rest.
#28 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Nina - San Antonio (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, April 01, 2005
POSTED: Friday, April 01, 2005
Hi there,
I am sorry that you got terminated from Schneider. I've tried applying with these people over a year ago and the reason why they shot me down is because I didn't have a solid working record (I'm going into the Navy to work on that) :), plus I didn't know how to drive a stick shift (which I would like to learn how to). All I can say is don't give up on your dream on becoming a truck driver, there are plenty of other companies where you can go with and accomplish your goal. Don't give up and do the best you can. :)
#29 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Len - Dayton (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, April 02, 2005
POSTED: Saturday, April 02, 2005
Before beginning I have want to mention that I am a trucker with over 36 years experience with several years of driving with Schneider National in their flatbed division, and I have been an owner operator since 1978 so I know what I am talking about. As for Schneider, I did my job, was responsible for my own actions, and was never cheated out of any pay or anything. It's a good company and I had a great working relationship with my dispatchers and everyone else within the company. You will ask, if it was so great why did you leave? The answer is, that I was in the flatbed division and I decided I was getting to old and clumsy to climb on loads to tarp them. I have never been a job jumper. I have only been to about five different companies in the past 36 years. I have been leased to my present company for 12 years and never plan to leave on my own.
My first response is to Charles-31754-Ga, as follows; you are so full of self pity. No company cares about you as a person or how hurt your feelings are so get over that idea. What have you been doing all your life? You say you are 22 years old and you have NEVER held a job..Something smells bad here and you are not being honest in your statements. Another suggestion; you said you finally graduated from high school, however, your spelling and syntax in your writing tells me that you failed English.
My second response is to Paul-Anaheim, CA. Paul you do not know what you are talking about. There may be a couple of companies out there that still operate as you say but don't bet on it. The government has gotten too strict on trucking companies. The new HOS rules keep people from running such as you describe. If you run the way you describe, never taking a shower, etc, then you are a slob of a trucker and don't need to be out on the road representing this industry. Also, if you don't believe me about the rules go to a large major truck stop, say a Petro or a TA after around 9PM on any night, and you can't find any parking because they are full of drivers taking their required 10 hour break. Also, you are very stupid to even suggest that someone lie about their work experience by suggesting they get a friend to lie for them by making up a dummy company. These trucking companies are not run by idiots that will take their word for what they put on their application. All the company has to do is check their social security number, and they will, to get their work history and whether any social security taxes were ever held from their wages.
My third comment is for, Mike-Hampton, VA- Mike, get practical experience before you start thinking about becoming an owner operator and trying to build a company. It's not easy because you have to depend entirely on your own sweat and it will certainly be an uphill battle but if you persevere your efforts will pay off. Before anything, you must acquire your CDL. Without that you have no hope. Also, I would suggest that you stay away from the Small Business Administration loan program. Also, stay away and don't listen to negative failures as Paul from Anaheim. I had people telling me that I would be making a big mistake if I became an owner operator and it's the best move I have ever made. When you make your move to get your own truck, DO NOT go with a company that offers to sell you a truck and you drive for them. For the most part, you will eventually lose everything you have worked for plus you will screw up any good credit history you may have. These are crooked deals. By having your own truck if the lease does not work out you still have the truck to lease on at another company. Look into the expedited freight industry. You will never reach your goals by driving for a company that only pays 30/40 cents a mile, especially if you have to support a family out of this. It took me about five years of driving to scrimp and save $10000 to put down on my first truck and that was in 1978. Today it would require much more than that, possibly as much as $30000. GOOD LUCK!
#30 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Kathy - Georgetown (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, April 03, 2005
POSTED: Sunday, April 03, 2005
I disagree with your comments. First of all len you'er wrong,& curt you need be quite people have enough problems without hearing more shit from people like you, i don't have to put up with any abuse sense from you,i know how to spell & write so who are to judge me! let me make this clear to you i can write anything however i feel like i don't give a SHIT of how well you don't like.
I have a right not to take any SHIT of people like you because people have been abused bye these companys & come on here to tell about it people like you & curt hate it well these companies do not have a right to mistreat or abuse people who don't deserve it.
Everything, fine till people like you & curt start bitching about it & curt you just need to get over it yourself people don't have to put up with any bullshit from you these companies do mistreat people who don't deserve this treatment if you don't want people to say any bad things about your industry then your industry needs to quit mistreating & abusing people & you are a person who can't stand it when anyone stands up for theirselfs CURT!!!!!
you are nothing but a bully, insulter also len if these trucking companys don't care about people then they will lose a whole bunch of people because people will not stand at take it why do you think their is such a shortage of truckers know because trucking companys treat people like shit&abuse them for no reason&ruin their lives & people like you who think they have everything going for them you think you can mistreat people who tell about how they were mistreated thats why this website was formed for this purpose.Also curt your industry & people like yourself make it look bad companys as no right to mistreat or abuse people & ontop of that have to listen to your ridcule about everything to me curt you the one who is a whiner&complainer,this is to you len how i write is none of your busniess if all you & curt are going to do is whine & say bad things about what people say then your industry doesn't need to mistreat people & abuse them! then nothing would be said & curt i'll say whatever i feel like & if you can take it then you can kiss off!!!!!
Final thought schneider is a piece of shit trucking company i will not bother to apply with them again after how they treated me just because i did not have a solid work history they are a shitty company to do that to me i should not have applied to begane with but i decided to try it they need to start caring for people or they would have nobody to work for them.
#31 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Georgetown (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, April 03, 2005
POSTED: Monday, April 04, 2005
First comment,Len,I disagree with your comments. First of all len you'er wrong,& curt you need be quite people have enough problems without hearing more shit from people like you, i don't have to put up with any abuse sense from you,i know how to spell & write so who are to judge me! let me make this clear to you i can write anything however i feel like i don't give a SHIT of how well you don't like. I have a right not to take any SHIT of people like you because people have been abused bye these companys & come on here to tell about it people like you & curt hate it well these companies do not have a right to mistreat or abuse people who don't deserve it. Everything, fine till people like you & curt start bitching about it & curt you just need to get over it yourself people don't have to put up with any bullshit from you these companies do mistreat people who don't deserve this treatment if you don't want people to say any bad things about your industry then your industry needs to quit mistreating & abusing people & you are a person who can't stand it when anyone stands up for theirselfs CURT!!!!! you are nothing but a bully, insulter also len if these trucking companys don't care about people then they will lose a whole bunch of people because people will not stand at take it why do you think their is such a shortage of truckers know because trucking companys treat people like shit&abuse them for no reason&ruin their lives & people like you who think they have everything going for them you think you can mistreat people who tell about how they were mistreated thats why this website was formed for this purpose.Also curt your industry & people like yourself make it look bad companys as no right to mistreat or abuse people & ontop of that have to listen to your ridcule about everything to me curt you the one who is a whiner&complainer,this is to you len how i write is none of your busniess if all you & curt are going to do is whine & say bad things about what people say then your industry doesn't need to mistreat people & abuse them! then nothing would be said & curt i'll say whatever i feel like & if you can take it then you can kiss off!!!!!Final thought schneider is a piece of shit trucking company i will not bother to apply with them again after how they treated me just because i did not have a solid work history they are a shitty company to do that to me i should not have applied to begane with but i decided to try it they need to start caring for people or they would have nobody to work for them.I,do not have to put up with your hostile attuide because you disagree with everything i say! i don't give a shit but i am not going to put up with your rude&hostile attudie toward me ricule me about everything just because you can't stand me telling about how i was treated bye schneider & i will not bother to apply with them again i have been truthful in all my statements & if you have a problem with what i have to say well tought shit!len! theirs always have to be ignorant people like you who got to try & mess everything up for people.You, are hear to cause nothing but trouble with people whom you disagree with people have the right to speak out agaisnt something & you have no right to ridcule people! so you just neeed to sit back & take the heat because people are going to complain when they have been mistreated bye these companys.And,when people do complain about something we always have to hear people like you always bitch about it,build a bridge cry me a river & get over it deal with what people say just like how ya'll tell us how to forget about things i would not have said anything sense you started with me i will give you a hard time back because i know how to type & i will not be upset bye people like you any longer because you wanna try & cut me down! about how i type it is none of your busniess how i type.Final thought they are bad trucking companys out their & schneider is one of them i don't give a damn! with what you think you need to grow up len&curt & quit whinning when people complain because people will always complain your industry curt does mistreat&abuse people & that is why they get bad things said about people are not going to be quite about it when a trucking company treats them like dirt & if this is how your industry treats people then i do not want to be apart of it!.These, trucking companys do treat people wrongfully that is why their is a shortage & if they don't straiten up their act they will lose all their drivers & nobody will drive for them& if they keep on making a big deal about people not having a 3 year work history which is the case why i got turned down bye schneider i will not bother to apply with them again after how i was treated bye them didn't think about my feelings or anything if my application was in good status,what they told me then they said that they wanted me to hold a job for one year well if i didn't have any work experince how do they except me to get job another job if they want hire me?
#32 Consumer Suggestion
AUTHOR: Paul - Anaheim (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, April 05, 2005
POSTED: Tuesday, April 05, 2005
Look at the facts. Don't listen to someone that claims to have been born in a truck and then spent his whole life driving it. He's pretending the job is better than it is. He's kidding himself. Don't let him kid you. Look at the real facts.
The major OTR fleets have 100+% job turnover. That means half of the drivers quit. The company has to hire all new people. Then, the new hires all quit too. That happens every year.
What's that tell you? How good can the job be if people keep walking away from it?
Despite what the experienced veteran above may tell you, the industry does not run compliant. I can't imagine how he can drive a truck. He's obviously blind.
An owner-operator association urges its member to resist the pressures and to run complaint. Various safety groups are pushing to have black-box recorders installed on trucks to force the companies to comply with HOS regulations.
And, last, the DOT itself will tell you that only two companies run legal. Wal-mart and Fed-ex. These are the people who inspect the logs. They are in a position to know.
Look at the fatalities from drivers who fall asleep at the wheel. Clearly, these people aren't getting their rest. Why is that? Obviously, the companies are pushing them beyond what they can do.
Clearly, the fleets are not in compliance. Maybe this one driver who posted here is in compliance. But, the company drivers for the big fleets have a forced dispatch system. You drive the miles they tell you to drive.
Last, look at the pay. Average starting salary is around $35,000 a year. Great, right? Wrong! That's the pay for 80 hours a week. That's equal to two normal jobs. You make $7 to $8 an hour. A little above minimum wage.
And, all the pay is based on the miles you drive. No drive means no pay. Why do you think I ran so hard? It's the only way I could make $1000 a week. You need to do 5000 miles every week. You get paid on only about 4500 of them. That's what it takes to put $1000 in your pocket each week.
That's damn hard to do. I know. I did that with reefer loads, where you sit all morning at grocery warehouses, waiting for lumpers to count off the load. Try running reefers and doing 750 every day. In a 68 miles an hour company truck. See how long you last.
I'll be honest with you. I actually liked most of the job. But, I finally walked away because the money was never there. There are a lot of easier ways to make $1000 without risking you life or working 100 hour weeks.
There isn't a driver shortage. There just is a shortage of people willing to drive trucks for the chump change the companies are willing to pay. The people who continue to drive come in two types. There are a few drivers who haul specialized freight with their own trucks and make a good living doing it. Then, there are the general freight drivers. Those are the ones making a little above minimum wage. They spend their whole life driving and end up with little or nothing to show for it.
If you're a driver, and you like the job, then stick with it. But, if you are thinking about going into the trucking business as a driver, then find out what you're in for before you sign on. There's some good, but there's also a lot of bad. Make sure you're ready for all of it.
#33 Employee
AUTHOR: Frank - Hudson (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, April 09, 2005
POSTED: Saturday, April 09, 2005
Charles-31754-Ga- Get a life, better yet, try an education. You sound as dumb as a post. I'm a fleet owner leased to Schneider and my drivers only drive 3000 miles a week, run compliant with DOT hours-of-service, and average takehome pay of arounf $1100 per week. I don't consider "forgetting" about a suspended DL a minor mistake. I wouldn't hire you either. Schneider National Carriers has one of the DOTs highest safety ratings (a 44 out of 100 with 100 being worst - check SAFERSYS.ORG) for large carriers). Swift has a 99 rating so I would agree with any negative comments you might have about them.
I don't know who the guy from Anahiem is driving for, but it sounds as though he getting screwed by somebody. $1200 for 5000 miles REALLY SUCKS! You're only making $.24 per mile. Unless my comments for Charles applies to you too, start looking for a better paying job.
My experience with Schneider is that they are a class organization, with a rigorous safety program (Charles, that means strict, tough, whatever). The folks who were shot down by Schneider don't sound very motivated or educated. Todays driver has to intelligent, informed and motivated. You guys (and gals) just don't sound as though you'd cut the mustard with Scheider...I see a career in fast food in your immediate futures!
#34 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Georgetown (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, April 11, 2005
POSTED: Monday, April 11, 2005
I also disagree with your comments,I do have a life frank,if you say something to me i will say something to you back!& if you have a problem with what i have to say then that is your problem not mine!.I do have an education as a matter of fact! i don't need to depend on schenider to enter the trucking industry & if schneider terminates people for no reason then i do not need to go with them anyways! they turned me down once & if i do get one year's job experince they probally still wont except me.I, told my story about how schneider turned me down because of me having no work history i do not care what anybody else thinks about it either! its nonsense for them to turn you just just for that reason if you have a clean background or a clean background its schneiders fault if they don't wont anybody then their the ones who will be left without any drivers to do their business for them if they make a big deal about people not having a solid work history.I, definitely don't wanna go with schneider anymore after reading the storys about how they terminate people all the time that is not a good company to work for & i will not apply with them again.I,thought that schneider would be a good place to start my career i thought wrong.
#35 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Georgetown (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, April 23, 2005
POSTED: Saturday, April 23, 2005
After reading ya'll's rude response's to me & to the other people who have made complaints about schndier i just would like to say that ya'll are nothing but ignorant,rude,abusive people who as no feelings toward other people or the problems that they face in life & to make things even harder they have to listen to ridcule from people like you CURT,&LEN these companys do mistreat&abuse people who don't deserve it & curt you are so full of self-pity & if are rude to me i will be rude back to you.Don't respond to make us feel less,or to bitch, & act like you didn't do nothing wrong.Because someday it could come back to you & when it does curt you will see how it feels to be on the other side just because people like you len,& frank think ya'll have it better then everybody else on here.Never say never!!!!!!!!!!!! it is very hard to be perfect all the time.God nor jesus will not look for medals,degress,or diplomas,but for scars.Don't think you have the upper hand just because you were for these people.You never know what life will throw at you or how you will handle it.Believe me i to have been their.Curt,len,frank don't think that ya'll are better then everybody else here because you ain't how you act toward other people will come back & bite you in the ASS!!!!!!.Its hard enough on people to be terminated from schneider or turned down bye them like me & we always have to put up with ignorant people like you ontop of it your industry needs to quit treating people liks SHIT! who don't deserve it then they would be no complaints know would they? I would bother to apply with schneider again i can go else where to enter the trucking industry & i don't need to depend on schneider if that it how they feel about me!.
#36 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Greg - Redford (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, May 01, 2005
POSTED: Sunday, May 01, 2005
I just have to reply as another bit of advice to Charles and others. I am on the outside looking in, so to speak with the trucking industry. I am a lot like many people who are looking for stable work but I have decided that even though trucking is NOT an easy career choice, it is a rewarding one to get into and I am going to be a part of it regardless what it takes.
I have been unemployed for two years now and paid my bills on time because I sold everything I own and drained my life savings. My wife has been busting her ass working at a two bit company that has been stealing money from its employees since it opened its doors. I am not like the average person who is complaining on this thread, I had a great paying job in the pharmaceutical industry and my job was outsourced thanks to my Governor. I live in Michigan, where the auto industry rules and many people are ignorant that there are other industries in the state, the healthcare industry has more workers in it just in the southeast area of the state than the auto industry in the entire state. I can write a long explanation about the hiring practices of the IT industry in general, but I won't bore you. If you want to get into IT, Don't, you won't have a job in five years. For those who think their state is bad for work, come to Michigan where even if you had a masters degree, you can't get work. YES we have illegal immigrants, but they are from the Middle East (biggest Arab population outside the Middle East) and India; they are taking the high paying jobs away.
When I was in high school, a long time ago I choose a career in IT healthcare industry instead of trucking. A while after I finished school, I started at the bottom as a lab courier logging over 75K a year and never had an accident. I worked for $5 an hour getting the experience to move to dispatcher and then to manager of the department until an IT opening came along. When that company was taken over, I found other work as an alarm installer, professional baby sitter and owned an auto parts store. I finally went into consulting, which gave me a direction that led to going to work for the largest pharmaceutical company in the world and being laid off.
Well enough about my state and what happened to me.
while I was in high school I was exposed to the trucking industry, mainly through truck drivers who I met through my dad. Some of these guys were driving when FDR was in office. I did go on a few trips with them, mainly steel deliveries to plants in Indiana and food runs to KC. This gave me a taste for driving a truck but my parents talked me out of it because this was the late 70's and times were tough. My parents and these truckers taught me a very important lesson; don't mess up your driving record, keep it clean and you will always find some sort of work. I still have that clean driving record; it was easy keeping it clean.
The most important thing I learned from these old timers is that no matter what you think or want to think about trucking, it is up to you whether or not you are successful. I mean that no company owes you a living, they are in business, well, to make money, not provide you an income. Their only means of making money is to use you to move that freight from one place to another, nothing else. If they are a good company, then you will enjoy working there and most likely stay for a long time. You need to learn to play the game and that pretty much life is what you make of it.
Trucking is a hard life, not as hard as other jobs, but hard enough. I am looking for a school or even to be company trained, but I am going into the field with the idea that I know that I have to work. For some reason many people think that all you have to do is go to school and bang, you're a truck driver. All companies are strict in their requirements and training to ensure they get the best. They need to weed out the idiots and dummies to prevent problems. If you are a bad driver from the start, you will be a worst truck driver and I would expect any company would not want you.
Curt has a very important point; “It ain't just sitting behind the wheel steering the truck, its paperwork, laws, compliance and having the mentality to do it”. That can't be stressed enough. Being part of one of the most regulated industries in the world, pharmaceuticals, I had to deal with everything from compiling a 15000 page report to going in front of the internal regulatory auditors and the FDA. You have to want to be successful to deal with the BS that comes with the regulations. The regulation in the trucking industry is not tough if you exercise some due diligent when you come down to it.
The other stuff that Len and Curt said is correct and it is all about you and your attitude. I know from practical experience as a dispatcher, it is better to learn the system and work within it then trying to change it, which is a reflecting of your attitude. When you get a good dispatcher, tell them and their manager. Don't view it as kissing ass but rather investing in your future. I could not stand my drivers telling me no but I know that they knew if they said no to me too many times I would make their life miserable and did on a few occasions. When I got good drivers, I would treat them better them my girlfriends. They made money for the company and gave me good bonuses. But really attitude is important right from the start and this goes for anyone that can make a difference in your job.
For some reason people like Charles who need to beat up on a company because of their own failings and mistakes, I would not want them driving a truck, or for that matter near me in a car. Charles sounds like he can't take anything serious enough to do the right thing to be successful and will always blame someone else. What Charles is missing here is that he needs to take a step back, look at himself and assume some responsibility. It looks like he does need basic english lessons, but the public school systems as it is, I understand why. I had to deal with people when I was a manager and business owner and I could not stand misspelled words and bad grammar.
The other thing is that Charles, you need to look at your career goals. If trucking was the only thing you wanted to do in life, why didn't you prepare for it. This is not your daddy's era where you can go to the local terminal and find work. it takes some intelligence to get a job and keep it. I know people who had a career in mind and did some sort of research to find out about the work they were going to do for the rest of their lives. It did not matter what their situation was, they took the time to find out about it. I guess my feelings apply to others on these threads that are complaining they got screwed, just look at the opportunities and responsibilities before you commit to something that is new to you. For me it is thirty years in the making and I worked hard to keep a clean driving record and make sure I am making an informed decision.
To Helene - Austin, Texas
I am in the same boat. I am going to lose my house if I don't get a job really quick. I was even turned down by every fast food place in my area because of my age and I had only 8 interviews in my profession and no offers. One job an Indian fellow came in right after my interview and offered the company a deal for half of the salary I was asking for and they hired him on the spot. Discouraging? Yes. Preventing me from find a job? No. Hang in there.
To Paul – Anaheim, CA
I see your posts all over the place and sometimes you make good points, but most of the time you are the most discouraging SOB (everyone else excuse me for that) I have yet ran across on this site. For some reason you seem to know more about the subject than anyone else and make repeating statements as gospel on many of the threads. When I first read your post about another company, it seemed to me that you got screwed by that company but after reading a similar post about another company, I realized you are like Charles and may have never worked for more than one company. Remember right now I am an outsider and my opinion is that you do the industry harm by your comments and feed a bunch of crap to anyone who will believe you.
Another thing that really bothers me is your statements about the DOT admitting to who is running legal. The DOT has the same investigation and auditing guidelines as any other regulatory agency which is set by the GAO and the oversight committees in the congress. If they admit (or a DOT employee admitted) to having only one or two companies falling into compliance with the regulations out of tens of thousands, you can count on their funding being cut by the congress and a serious investigation would take place to find out why so many are out of compliance. IT JUST DON'T HAPPEN. The DOT's job is also to enforce the regulations that they create and the laws that the congress passes, it is not there to allow companies to violate rules and put people in danger. They (meaning the DOT and FMCSA) do not allow companies to side step regulations. If for instance this was done to shorten paper work or quicken delivery time and something happens that causes deaths on the road, the liability will be on the DOT as much as it is on the driver, company and even the Broker. I am not going to debate this with you, I have been involved with policy making with the FDA and HHS with HIPPA and know first hand how it all works; they are all the same and like all the other regulatory agencies, be it DOT, FAA, FDA, CDC or HHS.
The last thing Paul; what the hell do you know about business? I mean you keep telling people not to lease a truck you'll get burned. It seems you quite don't get it about leasing and how it works. Yes you can lose your shirt if you don't take it seriously, I know of two people who grew up with my wife went through the company lease, one was successful and the other lost everything. There are too many factors involve to make a blanket statement. Also you and many others keep throwing up the amount of hours you work for the amount of money you make. Welcome to the world of professionals, truck driving is the same as IT consulting and every other profession. You don't count hours, you count the dollars left over. Everyone in business knows about taxes, permits and other necessities, which all have to be considered when making any decision about leasing a truck.
As for me….
I am looking at all the companies, schools and reading as much as I can on all the boards I can find. I already made my decision and people like Paul and Charles will not sway me. I also know the impact this will have on my family and when I made my decisions, I considered the impact of this life style change. I am no dummy and take my work seriously enough not to make rash decisions I will regret later or will hurt my family. I have set my goals and money making is a small part of that goal, with security being at the top. My wife is supportive in my decision to become a professional truck driver and realizes that this maybe the only way we will pull ourselves out of this hole we are in.
So to anyone that wants to become a trucker, please read the posts on this and other sites to gather information. Don't be fooled by people like Charles and Paul, use you head when you read these posts. There is some really great advice I found that will help me and I hope you will find it and take it seriously. If you can actually go to a truck stop and talk to real truckers to ask them their opinion. Anyone can become a truck driver, but it takes a person with a goal and a desire to do what it takes to be successful at anything they do.
#37 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Georgetown (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, May 03, 2005
POSTED: Tuesday, May 03, 2005
Greg,I don't no who you are to try & think that i am fooling everybody because i am not! i have a right to tell my side of the story about how i was done bye schneider bye how they turned me down because of no work experince & how they wouldn't except me into their training school because of that!, i do not know why you would put me in the middle as trying to (SWAY)! you from going with this company because they are a whole lot of other people on this site as well other then me!.I don't why you should have any say into this at all! or just want to be an internet (BULLY) like curt,len,&frank because they hate it because people speak their mind's like me when they get burned bye a company i could care less if you decide to go with this company or any other i don't need schneider after how they treated me about having no work experince.Their, will always be ignorant people in the world like i said from my recent posts & then people liks us have to always listen to ridcule & rude comments from people like you,len&curt&frank,i do want to become a trucker still & i am going to still become a trucker & i am not going to let people like you keep me from it or to put me down because you have no feelings for other people or what problems that they may face in life.Greg,don't put me in the middle as me trying to sway you from not joining the trucking industry because they are a whole lot of other people writing comments besides me! so i don't no why you would pick me for trying to (SWAY) you away personaly i do not care if people like you who still want to drive a truck i'am not trying to sway people away like how you are accusing me off because i told my comments about how i was treated bye schneider so do not put me in the middle of it!
seems like people can dish crap out put can't take it when somebody gives it back to them!& another thing greg i am not blaming nobody just stating the fact that people are sick & tired of people like you len,curt,&frank putting up with their rude&abusive& put down comments toward other people because they don't agree with what they have to say.Don't respond to make us feel less,or to bitch&act as if you didn't do nothing wrong like i said in my recent post if the trucking industry will quit abusing people,who don't deserve to be abused then their wouldn't be any complaints.As for me,i will not go with schneider anymore! after how they treated me because i had no work experince i am tired of taking this SHIT!
from people i don't do anything to anybody& yet i still have to take crap just because i stick up for myself don't think that you better then everybody else cause it could come back to you.Personally i do have a driver license's & have had an clean driven record for the last 3 year's & i am a good driver personally its your attuide toward others whom you disagree with & you wont to blame other's.
#38 Consumer Suggestion
AUTHOR: Paul - Anaheim (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, May 04, 2005
POSTED: Wednesday, May 04, 2005
I don't give a damn about how I make the trucking industry look. I'm not the least bit worried about some trucking company named in my comment.
I am interested in making sure some beginner knows exactly what they may end up facing if they decide to get involved in trucking.
You see, the whole idea of this site is to warn unsuspecting people of potential problems.
You can guarantee one thing for sure. The trucking companies aren't going to tell you anything bad. They want to hire you. They want to have you drive the trucks, so they can make money off of you.
So, naturally, they will make the job sound great.
A beginner enters the industry thinking one thing, and then finds out it's altogether different. By then, he has paid thousands of dollars for training and a special license. He may be in a truck half way across the country. It's not easy to quit when you're 1000 miles from home.
That's what I'm trying to prevent. I would rather that people hear the bad things right now, right here. That way, they won't be as likely to quit when they're far from home.
If anyone doesn't believe what I say, you can verify the facts with a few phone calls. Hell, you may even find the DOT's own statistics right here on the web. Check and see how many drivers were given tickets because they were driving more than the allowed number of hours.
Better yet, drive over to your nearest truck stop, and ask ten drivers in the restaurant. All you need to do is ask them how much sleep they get and how many times they falsify their logs.
If you still refuse to believe anyone, then go out and get behind the wheel. That way, you can see for yourself what you are expected to do.
You can learn a lot right here on the web. Search for Keith Hamblin. He makes a site called the trucker's page. There's another site called newbie driver. It's filled with useful information for beginners.
Just don't be surprised if both of these sites tell you the exact same thing that I told you.
Trust me, I don't need to make up stories just to have something to talk about. I'm an old man, not some kid looking to brag about this or that. I got nothing to prove to anyone. Especially on a web site. So, the things I say are exactly as they happened. Believe me or not.
Like I said before, the best way to find out is to get behind the wheel and see for yourself.
#39 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Georgetown (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, May 07, 2005
POSTED: Saturday, May 07, 2005
First of all let me say this,don't listen to this bull crap from people them say whats on ya'll's mind & bye the way who are ya'll to judge how people spell, do not judge! don't think cause ya'll have the upper hand that ya'll can judge people cause it could come back to you!.Everybody makes mistakes about typeing or spelling so ya'll have no right to be judging anybody & about how people like curt,len&frank,&greg who like to whine&bitch about everything at what anybody says about a company who does wrong doing's toward them who don't deserve it!. Nobody's perfect so ya'll have no right to judge people because ya'll don't like what they have to say that is why the world is so mest up like it is some people can dish crap out but they can't take it when someone gives it back to them,i still want to be a trucker & nothing will stop me from making my dream come true & i am not going to listen to ridicule from people like curt,len,frank&greg because they don't like what i have to say.Don't be fooled bye people like them,you have a right to be a human being & don't have to put up with their crap just say whats on your mind if they don't like it then that's their problem.
#40 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Georgetown (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, June 18, 2005
POSTED: Saturday, June 18, 2005
After reading reports about schneider, & after how schneider treated me not excepting me into their training school because i have had no work experince i have decided not to consinder going into the trucking industry after reading all the mess what these trucking company's do & after how they have treated some on my family members, who are in the trucking industry & have been done wrong for no fault of their own they have been betrayed bye their companys who they have worked for.
I rather not be treated this way mabye trucking isn't for me & i cannot believe that i wanted to be a truck driver, after reading these reports i have saved myself alot of mental anquise if i did decided to go with schneider & be terminated later for no reason after reading what they do to people mabye it was good that schneider turned me down i don't need to belong to a company who will treat me like crap for no reason if that's how they feel about me in my opinion no trucking company should not terminate people if they do not do nothing wrong, i do not need schneider if that is how they treat people they except people & then terminate them for no reason. I will not apply with schneider again, for how they treated me because i had no work experince & would not except me into their trucking school because of that.
#41 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Georgetown (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, July 12, 2005
POSTED: Tuesday, July 12, 2005
This is a response to GREG,i really do not give a damn what you think of me or what i have to say if you think i am trying to sway you away people like you are bullies,cowards & we have a right to tell if we have been treated differently bye a company & people like you curt,len,&frank like to attack people for them sticking up for themsevles
i am not the only one complaining on this website for some reason people like you & curt want to beat up on people & attack people from ya'll's own mistakes i will not live in bondage because of people like you which i had to deal with all my life.
Greg you are a pathological liar, to say i am the only one against this company & accusing me of beating up on this company because they are a whole bunch of other people on this website besides me complaining about this company so don't blame everything on me GREG for trying to SWAY you away from this company.
You are nothing but a bully just like curt len who like to come hear to just insult & to attack people,ya'll can dish it out but ya'll can't take it.So in closing i would just like to say that i will not live in bondage with what people think or say to me,thank you very much.
I do not need schneider to get into the trucking industry if that is how they feel about me i am still going to be a truck driver & what i read from other people as saved me from being ripped of later & saved from unfair treatment.
#42 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Georgetown (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, July 26, 2005
POSTED: Tuesday, July 26, 2005
I just would like to say I don't care how I make the trucking industry or schneider look bad, they are nothing but a shitty company to treat people the way they do.And people like greg & curt who come on here to bash & criticize people who say bad things about schneider because they don't like it when people say things about this company or any other to a matter of fact, i been done like this bye people like greg all my life being criticized, & attacked for sticking up for what i believe in & people like greg & curt pick on people & harass people they need to grow-up & quit whinining about other people because they speak out which is what this website is for, people like curt & greg can dish crap out but they can't take it.Response to curt who are you to tell people that they can't complain about schneider for their unfair treatment or for no excepting people into their training school for not having a 3 year work history american's are suppose to have rights to protect us from this kind if shit but i guess american's don't have right's anymore these companys want to violate our rights or any other business in america wants to violate human rights, this isn't the middleeast where those people don't have rights & the us is trying to treat us american's like how they treat people in the middle east, we have no rights to live as american's, everybody who is in control will do everything in their power to take our right's away, we all have right's as being american's of the united states of america but people live under satan & while that happen's nobody as any right's everybody won't's to take everything the other person as because they are jealous because they don't have it then they need to get out & work & quit trying to mess everybodyelse's life up like how these busniesses or company's like schneider do who wont to take everything from everybody & put them on the street's.Therefore I don't give a damn how mad or pissed people like curt or greg get for speaking out we live in a free america & damn proud to be an american & christian, it seems like greg & curt that ya'll are the whiners & complainers who don't like it when people say things agaisnt this company.
#43 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Georgetown (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, August 02, 2005
POSTED: Tuesday, August 02, 2005
I did not know that you had to have a 3 year working history when i applied with schneider over a year ago, i had a good drivin record with no criminal history i thought that was all you had to have & i thought schneider would be a great way to become a truck driver, I thought wrong, I applied on schneiders website & a view days later i got a call from a schneider rep.I went threw the interview procress i explained why i had not have had no jobs in the last three years, after the rep. after i answered all the reps. questions to my work background & criminal history she said that she would talk to her manager about my application, a few minutes later she got back with her managers answer he said that i had to have a job for one year without being terminated & her manager inform me that my application was in good status, so i was not accepted into their training school i sure i was upset & disappointed of not being excepted, but i will not apply with them again after reading some of the story's on this website & atfer how i was treated bye them about not having a 3 year work history which is very unfair for them to treat me, & i will not apply with them again.
#44 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Georgetown (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, August 29, 2005
POSTED: Monday, August 29, 2005
I am tired of the whining & the attacking & criticizing people like, curt, len, frank, & greg who criticize & personally attack people because they speak out agaisnt a company who as wronged them who didn't deserve the type of treatment that schneider dishes out to people.Then we all gotta put up with people like curt who don't like it when we speak out & gotta listen to them attack & criticize & judge people that is why the world is in a bad place because of people like curt, len, frank, greg who attack people it makes me want to vomit listening how they attack people, that is what this website is for to report a business or company who as ripped you off!.I don't give a damn how i make this company look bad or the trucking industry response to curt, when a company treats people bad they will have complaints, i will not apply with schneider again for how i was treated bye them & i really don't care what people think about what i have to say i'll say whatever is on my mind!
#45 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Georgetown (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, September 26, 2005
POSTED: Monday, September 26, 2005
My first response is to curt you are an ass as well as curt,len, frank, & greg who come to this website to personally attack people who schneider as wronged just like they people have the right to complain agaisnt a company who as wronged them! just like how schneider as wronged me & people like us have to put up with criticism from people like curt,len,frank& greg because they work for schneider & don't like it when people say bad things about schneider for how schneider as wronged us curt,len,frank,&greg are nothing but ignorant people who come on the internet to attack&abuse people because they have the guts to speak out agaisnt a company who as wronged them & it pisses me off at how they do people make fun of them & personally attack them that is what this website is for to report bad companys like schneider who as wronged people & people like curt get mad about it well who cares if people like curt get made because we have a right to say our comments on this website just like everybody else who attacks people & makes fun of them for no reason that is why we live in such a bad world because of all the negative that is in it.
#46 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Georgetown (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, September 28, 2005
POSTED: Wednesday, September 28, 2005
Nobody will keep me quit about how i was wronged bye schneider people have the right to speak out agaisnt a company who as wronged him to me curt, frank, len, & greg are a bunch of whiners who come on this site to attack & critize people who as been wronged bye schneider well screw scneider & curt, len, frank, & greg can piss off for all i care people like them can't stand it when their wronge & wont to attack & ridcule the other person & make them think their wrong!.Curt, len, frank, & greg you all are wrong! ya'll are nothing but creeps internet junkies! if this is the kind of people schneider as working for them then i do not wont to be apart of schneider if this is the way they treat their employers from the rip off reports that i have red, its these trucking companys like schneiders own fault they have a bad name in the trucking industry & they are some bad truckers out their on the road who drive bad & reckless speeding & pasing on doubled yellow lines & ect. the bad truck drivers out their are the ones who make the trucking industry look bad not us & they are some pretty bad trucking companys like schneider who do harm to people who don't deserve this type of unfairtreatment.To curt, len, frank, & greg are nothing but ignorant people but to bring criticism to people who report schneider who as wronged them!.
#47 Consumer Suggestion
AUTHOR: Slider - Kentwood (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, December 24, 2005
POSTED: Saturday, December 24, 2005
First of all, let me point out that I have been in the industry as a driver for nearly two and a half years... I enjoy the lifestyle, and have worked quite hard to get where I am. I, too started in this business with no experience at all... in fact, becoming a trucker was the last thing I ever thought of doing.
I lost my job back in the winter months of early 2003 and spent most of that year trying to figure out what to do... although I was searching, I had been a pest control operator for many years and just couldn't seem to find any openings in my line of work. I was on unemployment for nearly nine months before hearing about the WIA program and appying for it...
Helene, I know you didn't have a very good experience with this, but if you will tell them what you want up front, they will work with you much faster in getting you the training you want. I went to a driving school that had a pretty decent two-week course and there were a lot of recruiters there every other day or so. Much can be done from that program, so I wouldn't turn my back on it if I were you.
Charles, although you are quite thin-skinned on this, the other drivers you have heard from are correct: your attitude stinks--listen to us and learn! If you truly want a career in this or any other field you must first learn that it is not "all about YOU"! You claim to have an education, and perhaps you really do--but in what, exactly? Your spelling is atrocious, your sentences are rambling and poorly punctuated... you also form one single paragraph to handle a multitude of topics... Even your speech here indicates that you are reckless!
If you are disciplined and willing to listen and learn, there is no reason you cannot make it in this business at all. Do your year for SNI or whomever you receive your OJT from. The onus is on you here, not the company. Whether or not you choose to admit it, you are the recipient of a boon, even though you must pay it back, you will learn to conduct yourself and possibly learn to PROFIT from your endeavours as well.
I do not work for SNI, though I know many who do. I would not work for SNI, but I don't have to, either... just remember that you don't start your career with a company in the CEO's office.
#48 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, December 27, 2005
POSTED: Tuesday, December 27, 2005
I really do not care what you or anybody else says on this forum. If anybody tries to abuse me I will insult them back then they get mad & pissed off when I attack them back. People on the internet think they are so much more educated & such writing professionals that they can come on this website to insult & abuse people how can you say I am reckless? say slider you come on this website to insult me like everybody else on this website & thinking I am going to keep quit about it & try to demonized infront of everybody or try to make me look bad infront of everybody. I do not need Schneider to get into the trucking industry I do not have to go with them & I will not go with them they are other options available besides getting treated like dirt by Schneider & everybody else. By reading all the other things by Schneider It is a good thing that I did not decided to chose Schneider because I will not let them screw me like they have everybody else!!!!. To me I think that you're the reckless one.
#49 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, January 08, 2006
POSTED: Sunday, January 08, 2006
I really do not care if people think I am a bad speller or who thinks I don't have an education it is none of anyones business. I really don't care how I make the trucking industry look like they should not treat people like "SHIT" if they do not want anybody to bad mouth them or to say bad things like the bad things we have said about schneider & how they treat people badly & we are suppose to keep quiet about it well we are not going to keep quit about it! I have as much right to be here as with everybody else just because you don't agree with me don't give anybody the right just because they think that they are smarter then me to come on this website to insult me or abuse me because I have spoke out agaisnt schneider for their unfair treatment that they have done to me I don't give "SHIT" how many people get pissed at me for saying bad things about schneider.
#50 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, February 17, 2006
POSTED: Friday, February 17, 2006
I applied for schneider driving school 01/04, I told them that I never helt a job before 2003 from 2000-2003 I graudated highschool in 2003 but because I did not have a solid work history I could not be excepted into their driving school. I thought schneider was going to be a great way to learn to be a truck driver I thought wrong!, schneider turned me down because I did not have any work experince because I have not held a job for 36 months this is ironic I have had a good driving record for 3 years & know felony convictions I thought schneider would be a great way to learn to be a truck driver I was hurt that they did not except me & thought It was a waste of time to apply with them but reading other reports on this website I thought it was for the better I did not get excepted to save me the hurt & the pain later with the little hurt & disappointment I was feeling at the time if they can't be fair to people who has not had a solid work history for 12 to 36 months then they should not be in business if they cannot be fair to people because it is not peoples fault that they cannot hold a job for 3 years, if they have to be discrinmotory towards people In my other reports on this forum I was facing hurt & anger by schneider from them not excepting me into their driving school they were not fair towards me. It was a waste of time for me to apply with schneider I was turned down because I did not have a solid work history I have a clean driving record & a clean background I thought these were the two important things to have I thought the job history was not important. Schneider is a shitty trucking company & they are creeps to do this to people not except them because they have not helt a job for 36 months they should not have a trucking school if they are not going to except anybody who hasn't had a job for 36 months if i knew this then i would have never applied in the first place. I thought schneider was going to be a great way to learn to be a truck driver I thought wrong if you have not held a job for 36 months then you up the creek I thought that this only applies for company drivers not inexperinced drivers who are applying for schneiders driving school, looks like this is an dead end for me their is no other way i can get into the trucking industry unless you pat a school $5,000 of your own money but not everybody can pay their own way into school like me, know this has made it very diffuclt getting into the driving industry mabye their is a better way then the schneider way I am all out of options & I do not know how to proceed know I do not know what I want to do to make a living.
#51 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, February 18, 2006
POSTED: Saturday, February 18, 2006
I decided to give schneider another shot to apply for their driving school. I applied for a job at my local grocery store 05/05-02/06 the pay was not good I was making minimum wage pay rate $5.25 it wasn't much of a job, but I had to start somewhere after I applied online on their webstie www.schneider.com a schneider representive called me like they did before for a phone interview they asked me all the basic information the questions that are on the application I answered them trufuly, then after the interview was over the rep. looked over the application & put me on hold then got back with me & told me we are not going to proceed with the application & they are going to proceed with other qualified candidates & did not explain nothing to me & was rude to me & hung up. I called schneider back & asked what was the reason for the second turndown they told me because I did not commit to the job for one year, I was with that company for 10 months so I have been treated the same way again what is the big deal I had a driving record for three years & no criminal history schneider. I, guess i am no good for schneider I do not know why I cannot get excepted they have shitty people working for them I got me a job I was commited to it for a year & know they still turned me down If this is the way schnedier feels about me then the hell with them I urge people do not apply with them & ignore commits from people who insult us or come on this website to put us down for being agaisnt schneider, schneider treats people unfairly even though they have a good work background schneider needs to be introuble for fraudlent business practices even if people do meet their hiring critria they will still turn them down I will not let schneider destroy my dream of becoming a truck driver nor will i let people insult me just because I have the guts enough to report the unfairly treament from schneider, it is ironic that people who has a good driving record can not even be excepted into a driving school congress needs to look into this because I did do what schneider wanted me to get a local job it could have been anywhere & to keep it for a year without being fired, I kepted it for a year so they lied to me I got myself a job kepted it for a year & they still would not except me I do not know what anybody else does with my application after I send it in but they better not be changing no information or lying about me I do not know what they do to my information but they better not altar no information to make me look bad if this is the reason why they deny me getting into their driving school mabye their is another reason why I cannot be excepted into their driving school I will not have another bad day like I did I will not bother to apply with schneider again they will tell you anything to get rid of you mabye schneider isn't for me, if they treat people this shitty like how shitty hey have treated me the hell with them, people whine about people not having jobs but if company's treat people like this not hiring anybody no wonder nobody can't have a job if all they do is turn everybody down I did meet their hiring critia but if they say I didn't well I don't care I am tired of this crooked company I am seeing other options know & have applied with other companys they are other better trucking schools with schneider who do not treat the people they way they do.
#52 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, February 18, 2006
POSTED: Saturday, February 18, 2006
They are places where mangers are creeps or if they are women mangers that can be bitches & not except you in their driving school just to be mean & abusive towards you because they don't want you to be working for their company because they don't like you.
Well I don't care if scnheider don't like mean If they really feel that way about certain people then I do not want to work for these kind of ruthless & abusive people or if they have jealous women working in their who does not want anybody else to suceed in their company well the hell with it I do not have to have schneider I would go somewhere else where I am wanted If they have that many uncaring people, schneider has turned me down the last time they are a shitty company they have made it clear they do not want me to drive their trucks or to be trained in their school well "FUCK" them they are a waste of my time if they have ruthless & abusive manangers who do not except you because they have that right to everybody has the right to work or be excepted into a school but if they have racist & predjuice people in schneider who can mess you up I will go find a company where i am wanted & not be treated like trash by schneider, because I want to get out & make money for a living but can't do it if they have piece of trash managers who turns everybody down.
They probally turn down a 100 people & only very little make it & the other 90 people get turned down their is something wrong their, well schneider does not have to except me I am not that "DESPERATE" I can save my own money if that is what it takes besides worring about being excepted into schneider's little driving school or maybe I will find one in my local town if that they don't have racist & predjuice manangers like schneider who is trying to prevent me from going to a trucking school.
I am curious, has to how many people actually make it threw the hiring process before signing the school contract & how many get turned down by schneider because they hate everybody & are predjuice agaisnt everybody I wonder what kind of people they really except besides turing them down the first sec. after they review your application.
#53 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, February 18, 2006
POSTED: Saturday, February 18, 2006
People like greg seems to think all the negative things I say about schneider are lies, well all the negative things i say about schneider are true!. They lie on their website www.schneider.com to get you to apply for their training school they mislead people into applying on their website, to make you think going threw them would be a great way to becoming a truck driver & earning your CDL threw all the great testominals from their videos from their website that is full of "SHIT" how many people apply in a month & how many people they turn down is my questioned & how many people make it threw the hiring process to proceed onto the driving school. I have had no luck with schneider I have been turned down twice, all because I have not held a job for 36 months I thought schneider would be a great way to get my CDL license & my experince I thought wrong!, schneider has messed up my chances to train to be a truck driver & they say in their videos you don't have to have no driving experince, no fancy job background to apply. Well, I had not job experince it is ironic I have a good 3 year driving record no criminal history, no felony convictions these are the 3 things they look for I thought these were more important then having a job for 36 months but know they make that a big deal. Schneider has shot me down twice I am trying to find a decent job to make $500 weekly & trucking has almost been my interest I am not rich I do not have $5,000 to pay my own way neither with my mother help me pay my own way so i cannot afford to get into this industry so I am stuck probally will end up on welfare because I can find no other jobs except with a college degree, & who wants to be put threw that with having to worry about paying tutition back & still find no job with a college education so it seem like I am in a dark hole with no end to light I am afraid to apply for swift trucking school, with being to scared about them to show me down they are not to many trucking companies who will finance your school money so I am stuck in an dead end with no help I thought schneider would help me I thought wrong! my parents & grandparents are helping to support me because I am unable at this time to make my own living I know its sad for me but what can I do I try looking for jobs, & they treat me like how schneider has treated me like trash! trucking is the only thing I know I was exposed threw trucking growing up with my grandparents & uncle I even went cross-country with my uncle who worked for marten-transport. I've always wanted to be a truck driver ever sense 1st grade or even way before but know their is no hope for me know, I know trucking is a hard life but I still wanna do It but how can I even start if everyone keeps turing me down I have tried with nobody else except schneider but I am afraid to try with anyone else. It seems like their is no hope for me know schneider will not except me they have turn me down twice! & know I am spending the weekend being depressed & angry because I did not get into their training school, I thought wrong a employer has the right to hire who they want but it is hurtful & sad when they do not chose you because they do not think you are not able to do the work.
#54 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, February 18, 2006
POSTED: Saturday, February 18, 2006
They need schools to help people to learn how to drive trucks who are unable to pay for it themsevles If you do not have a 36 month working history they will not look at you, because it is hard for people to keep a job for 36 months with what goes on these days in the workforce don't think that schneider will be an easy way like I thought they would be. Schneider is not the easy way to learn how to drive a truck if nobody has a 36 month working history then you have no hope at all.
#55 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, February 19, 2006
POSTED: Sunday, February 19, 2006
Just because people think they are better spellers or can write better does not give them the right to come on this website to bully or insult people, I will ignore any further insulting comments schneider needs to be afraid because the internet can expose their fraudlent unfrair employment fraud the internet is not going away we can expose schneider's unfair employment if anybody has been treated like crap by schneider like I have they need to expose it on this website like I have. Infact if anyone has been treated like crap or wrongfully terminanted expose It on here I am sure if enough people complain schneider will be out of business!.
#56 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, February 19, 2006
POSTED: Sunday, February 19, 2006
I was feeling hurt & angred because schneider did not except me into their training school, I am still hurt & angered because I want to make a living driving a truck I wanted to for a long time but I did not know that it was going to be this hard. Just because I did not have a 36 month working history schneider would not excetpt me into their training school so I feel a little destroyed at the moment.
I probally have to be on welfare the rest of my life because I have no college education or probally have to work for a min. hour job $5.25 when schneider did not except me I was a little destroyed I figured it would be the best chance for me getting the training that I needed to get my CDL, so know I am back at the beginning schneider will not ruin my day anymore because I will not even consider them to anyone else for the way they treated me I did meet their hiring criteria & I did meet their qualifications & I asked the operater who I spoke with I asked her what I didn't me she yelled at me & refused to answer me that was how rude she was to me.
I don't know who I cam complain about the operater's actions then she spoke rudelt towards me saying that they are going threw more qualified people. Schneider has made my life miserable if this is they way that they treat people then I will never want to work for them! or to apply with them again!.
#57 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Pete - Valley View (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, February 19, 2006
POSTED: Sunday, February 19, 2006
You could always charge your mother for all the time you put in on this site defending her in her EEOC complaint--which was turned down just like you were.
#58 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, February 19, 2006
POSTED: Sunday, February 19, 2006
Well schneider does not have to worry about me applying with them again, so I will not have to worry about be turning me down again. If all they are going to do is turn me down when I apply with them then the hell with them. I will not allow them to ruin my day again like they did 3 years ago when I applied with them. I'll find another company-paid driving school. Ever sense republicans have been incontrol jobs have been discriminatory & people have losing their jobs because of employers being discriminatory everybody not letting anyone work or even training for a job like supposedly schneider says they do for people what a load of "SHIT". Sense republicans have been incontrol nobody can work or be agaisnt!.
#59 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, February 19, 2006
POSTED: Sunday, February 19, 2006
I know this sounds ridiculous just entering a trucking school to explain your activies for 36 months during the time when you are unemployed its nonsense. My problem is I have a hard time explaining my activies during the 36 month period, of umemployment & why they need a five page cover letter is ridiculous to do & total nonsense before you are excepted into a company-paid training school. I know companies want hire just anybody but if you have a clean criminal back ground with no felony convictions & a clean driving record those are the three major things a company looks for before they can hire you, or even consider you so I did not think the 36 month employment wasn't a big deal till i applied with schneider. Our elected officials needs to give schneider hell for how they treat people I filled out schneiders online application correctly & truthfully & looked over the application before I submitted it to them, I have a clean driving record & no felony confictions or didn't have a criminal history & I still didn't get excepted into schneider company training school because of this umemployment I did not explain my activies for the past 36 months. So it is a waste of time for me to apply with schneider if they are going to treat me like this what do I need to do to get excepted into schneider's training school I have tried everything & it is always a dead end for me & it is hopeless.......
#60 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, February 20, 2006
POSTED: Monday, February 20, 2006
I am moving on from these creeps they do not have to except me into their training school, I am hurt know probally will never get over it but life is not fair I am moving on with my life from these liars. When I first applied they told me I different story then they did know was to get a job hold it for a year without being fired I did that & they lied to me! telling me know I don't meet their qualifications. This website is design to report about bad companies who have wronged you & you have a right to speak out I am moving on from these creeps & liars.
#61 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, February 20, 2006
POSTED: Monday, February 20, 2006
If trucking schools keeps making it hard for people to be excepted into a truck driving school they will lose their money & be shut down because schneider has made it harder for me to get into their company-paid driving school, I have had a clean driving record for 3 years & no criminal history & I still didn't meet their qualifications I have held a driver license for over 12 months & I have held a clean driving record for 3 years. I explained to schneider my activies for 36 months why I have been umemployed, threw no fault of my own I was in highschool from 2001-2003 & I graduated in 2003 so I do not know why it is so hard for me to get in schneiders company paid driving school. I have explained everything to schneider & I still cannot get into their driving school, if they keep making it hard for people then nobody will bother to apply if all they are going to do is turn them down like they have done me. I will not bother to apply with schneider again for thier unfair treatment, so this is to everybody who doesn't want to have a bad day do not apply with schneider they are ruthless people who will not give anybody a chance at their driving school.
#62 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, February 21, 2006
POSTED: Tuesday, February 21, 2006
People who have been scammed by schneider need to take action agaisnt them! for misleading people like how I have mislead into thinking I could gain admittence into their training school, schneider did not tell me on how I could improve myself to gain admittence they need to quit misleading people & people need to take action agaisnt schneiders fraudlent business practice for making people think they will gain admittence & then people get turn down by schneider & mislead like how I have been mislead.
After reading this forum I think it would have been a mistake in siging a contract with them if they are just going to treat me like trash! I don't need them, schneider mislead me & lied to me I feel discouraged & angered! people whine & bitch about people not getting jobs & when people go look for training in their area of internest & get turned down I will do whatever it takes to be a truck driver & I will not let schneider discourage me for being a truck driver for not gaining admittence into their school!.
#63 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, February 21, 2006
POSTED: Tuesday, February 21, 2006
People need to get a civil suit agaisnt schneider for the mental anguish caused by schneider & misleading people, & for altering peoples & the operaters lying about people & their information.
People should also bring a civil suit because people did meet schneiders qualifications & I met schneiders qualificationsto gain excepness into their training school & I was not told how to improve my chances for gaining exceptince, into their company-paid training school. We live in a right to work country where anybody whoo meets a companies qualifactions to be excepted into their company-paid training & them lying about you for them not to except you!.
A group of people who have been wronged by schneider needs to bring in a civil law-suit agaisnt schneider for damanges from them & for not being excepted into their company-paid training just because they haven't held a job for 36 months! If their is a civil suit I will join it, because I did meet schneiders qualifications & I still got turned down any any person who has been wronged by any trucking company needs to file a civil lawsuit agaisnt them for damanges & suffering!.
This website is meant to ruin reptuations of trucking companys who are full of corruption & commiting crimes wrongfully terminanted people like I have read what schneider does who has done nothing wrong to be terminanted. I am afraid to apply anywhere else because I am afraid to gain exceptance in another company-paid training school I still want to be a long haul truck driver & will do whatever it takes to gain exceptance into a driving school even If i have to save my money because schneider, is a waste of time & a bunch of ruthless people I thought schneider would be a great way to train & become a truck driver I thought wrong!. Looks like I have no hope know if i can't be excepted into schneiders training school I will not be excepted into any other!.
#64 Consumer Suggestion
AUTHOR: Rick - Moreno Valley (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, February 21, 2006
POSTED: Tuesday, February 21, 2006
I have been a truck driver for five years two of witch with my current employer. I came to driving after a 30 plus year career in management. I can tell you this you must think and research your way through any situation prior to applying anywhere for anything use your comp talk to drivers at truckstops. Not the ones that are upset but the fat happy ones. Find out how much they earn how they are treated. You must learn to be smarter then your circunstances.
When I told my wife that I was going to drive a truck I also told her that I would most likely change jobs at least four times before I could earn A solid living wage , however it took only three moves lucky me I currently earn between 75/80 thousand per year as a company driver . You can to but you must do the right things first clean record.research talk to as many people as possible and plan plan plan
#65 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phoenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, February 22, 2006
POSTED: Wednesday, February 22, 2006
Schneider thinks we are the ones suffering but at the end they will be the ones suffering what makes people these days think they are going to get away with what they do to people, what makes trucking companies think they are getting away with how they treat people & private investagtor needs to go under cover & apply for schneiders training school or an FBI under cover agent & needs to investagate schneiders training school & needs to get the victims from schneider who has wronged them or been wrongfully terminanted.
If schneider does this to the FBI under cover agent then the agent can expose to corruption that in schneider for what they do to people making it hard for people to get in their training school who has a clean record & a clean driving record but has not worked in the last 36 months is the reason why schneider does not except people into their school, half the time schneider turns down people from what I have read into other report.
If people like greg don't believe me about schneider then they need to go ahead & apply & if they get turn down they don't need to get upset or if they get fired from schneider after training people have tried to warn people about schneider, including myself but if they don't believe us then the "HELL" with them they will have to experince the problem theirself why should I have to be put threw this abuse from schneider, I did meet their hiring critira when I applied 12/03 I was turned down but the mananger told me that my application was in good status these operaters are messing the chance for people to be excepted into their training school, if this keeps up nobody will bother to apply with them they will have nobody to train or screw up then they will lose their business. Its time to quit letting driving schools get richer while poor people get poorer.
#66 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, February 22, 2006
POSTED: Wednesday, February 22, 2006
It does not make sense if you have a clean driving record & no criminal record with no felony convictions that you cannot be excepted into a company-paid driving school. Congress needs to make companies throw out that dumb requirement. Even if I did hold a job for a year schneider would probally find a excuse not to hire me like they find excuse's for anybody who tries to apply for employment for them, I seen after reading this forum about other complaints that it would have been a mistake but companies just ignore congress & continue to do what they please. I feel discouraged & angry by the way schneider treated me! even if they call me or write to me in the future asking me to get on with them I will ignore their phone calls & letters because they have shot me down twice & I will not fool with these people anymore.
#67 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, February 22, 2006
POSTED: Wednesday, February 22, 2006
Greg if you think I am trying to sway you away from picking schneider from me saying all the negative things about them well go ahead chose schneider I am telling my experinces with schneider & if you think I am lying about schneider your dead wrong!. I can come on this website to say any negative thing about schneider regardless with what you think I am not the only one who is saying anything negative about schneider, why did you single everyone else out & just put me the only one who says anything negative about schneider or accusing me of trying to sway you away! don't listen to but I will continue to say & speak my mind regardless of what anyone thinks or says to me on this forum you'er full of "SHIT" the most ignorant person I have ever seen to say the things that you say go with schneider see if i care! I do not care if you think I am trying to "SWAY" you, you have proven your an ignorant piece of "SHIT" so you can shut up with what I have to say. I don't need schneider to get into the trucking school they are many other ways to get in the trucking school without having to worry with schneider & the crap, I have tried being patient as soon has I get over schneider I will try again with other compaines who offer company-paid driving school.
#68 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, February 25, 2006
POSTED: Saturday, February 25, 2006
Ignore people like greg & curt, the negative things that people say about schneider are correct & true! Schneider's operaters seem to get upset when you ask why you have been turned down, like when I asked they raised their voice up at me & refused to tell me anything sounds to me like they are up to something fishy, If enough people complain about their bad experinces about schneider nobody will bother to apply with them & they will lose business & will be shut down that is the purpose of this website to report bad businessess or companies. If you think schneider is a good way to get your cdl then you need to look elsewhere all schneider is out to do is rip people off & not let them drive their trucks! If schneider's managers ever come to this website I do not care how pissed they get they should stop treating people like crap!, schneider is not a good way to get your cdl if they keep turing people down who want a job in this business, but nobody has a chance in this industry who apply threw schneider, sense schneider likes to turn everybody down!.
#69 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, February 27, 2006
POSTED: Monday, February 27, 2006
If schneider wants to treat me like crap then I WILL! do whatever it takes to make them lose business! I will ignore comments from greg who think i am lying. I will make sure the word gets out about the way schneider treats people I thought schneider was different from all the other trucking companies but they are just like them out to rip-off people & to steal from them. I will make sure schneider will be sorry for the way they treated me I do not care if people ignore me or people like greg who think I am not telling the truth! I will continue to speak out agaisnt these ruthless people!!!!!! who treated me like crap. I WILL! make sure schneider will not get any business I will get the word out for people not to apply with them to make sure, they have done this to alot of other people like the way I was treated. I am 21 years of age 24 know I have held a driver license for over 3 years I have a clean drivin record but I have not held a job for 36 months, this is just a excuse for schneider not to hire people they should be sued for the misleading information they have on their website. I will make schneider lose business for the way they have treated me & I do not care how bad I make schneider look bad schneider does not know that they are really hurting themselves when they treating people like this. Everything I have said here is true I do not care how much schneider does not like what I have to say schneider should not treat people like crap, they do not know they are really hurting themselves!.
#70 Employee
AUTHOR: Frank - Hudson (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, March 04, 2006
POSTED: Saturday, March 04, 2006
Charles, I see you moved from one mental health facility to another in Phenix City. Great town! One of my "starving" drivers lives there. He only made $65K pulling a Schnieder trailer last year. Here' a thought...maybe the Super Kmart will hire you as a cart "captain". Thing of all the experience you'll get manuvering those shiny shopping carts. Yup...instead of bitching about Schneider, you could be grousing about Martha Stewart, Kmart & Sears.
If you spent as much time actually looking for a driving job as you do bemoaning your lot in life, you'd already been driving for somebody. The clue phone is ringing, and you're not answering! With all the trucking companies out there, the shortage of quality drivers, and you with no job, strongly suggests that the problem clearly lies with you or your character (I actually find you to be a "real character").
As for me, I'll stay with Schneider as an independent contractor. Since they treat me so badly (according to you), I'll just have to console myself by looking at my 2005 IRS form 1099, which shows gross income from Schneider of over $538 thousand for 2005. It's a bitch being a starving loser with Schneider! I'll just laugh all the way to the bank.
#71 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Georgetown (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, March 05, 2006
POSTED: Sunday, March 05, 2006
Don't schneider realize that they are making other companies look bad if they treat people bad like they have treated me! I do not trust them anymore nor do I trust anybody else. Schneider has lost my trust I will not bother to apply with them again because they are a waste of time if that is the way they feel about me they do not have to hire me they have ruined it for me!. I will not allow also to let schneider starve me to death or have to be worried about being fired after I complete training schneider does not realize that they are hurting themselves, when they treat people like crap like how I been treated!. I'll guess to keep from starving I will have to go on welfare sense I can't find any employment. I will not give schneider another chance to ruin my day. I do not care what people think about me having to go on welfare when you have tried to look for employment you get treated like this. Welfare is the only thing you have left to survie without starving to death!.
#72 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, March 06, 2006
POSTED: Monday, March 06, 2006
I will not work for schneider national it is a complete rip-off. I was told two years ago when I applied my application was in good status this person who I talked to during the interview was an new person & was not the person I talked to two years ago, know they tell me I do not meet their qualifications I was not told this two years ago, so I was LIED! to after how this last person I talked to at schneider was ugly towards me would not tell me how I could improve myself to gain admittance just told me she was going to look threw other people with more qualifications, I was not told this two years ago I do not know the person who I talked to two years ago after she told me this she rudely hung up the phone on me acting like they do not want me working for them or being hired for their truck driving school. I do not trust schneider or any other trucking company who offers training I guess to keep from straving to death I need to apply for welfare sense I cannot even be accepted into a trucking school. If others accept me I will not bother to apply with them because after the way schneider has treated me I do not trust the other companies who try to take advantage of me!, I rather be on welfare then be treated like "SHIT" from schneider or be treated badly like I have already been treated! if I didn't need the money badly I wouldn't even applied with them but if you do not have a 36 month working history then you have no luck into getting into a driving school so this is my big disappointments not being accepted into schneider's training school, we all recieve disappointment's but they are hard to get over if it is something you really wanna do & nobody will even look at you, I have had alot of disappointments in life & let downs but hey life is not fair & it will always be like this. I just would like to have my own money, I just have to save every bit of money I have if i find pennies or dimes I save them & after time I will have almost $100 in change to save up I'll just go to the bank & cash it in & start the process all over again, this is what people like us have to do save every little bit you have just recently I have saved $80 worth of change & I have put it in my bank account, & know I almost have another bag of coins saved up so my wallet will not be empty all the time. I cannot go out & do anything because I have no money I am saving every little bit of money I can so I just stay inside the house all the time, I am depressed about it but being a truck driver is what I want to do for a career & I will not let anybody try to discourage my dream! if its bad for some people but it might not be has bad for me I will enjoy it I love to drive when I can so if you love to drive then trucking is a job for you, I love to drive every chance I get even if i have to save every penny to pay for my own training, I WILL! do it so I wouldn't have to worry about being hired by schneider. It is very hard to find a job today its very hard just to be accepted into a truck driving school but I will never give up! I will not let schneider or anyone else discourage me becoming a truck driver is my goal & I will not let anyone discourage me!.
#73 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Adolph - Elkhart (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, March 06, 2006
POSTED: Monday, March 06, 2006
Quote (Frank):
As for me, I'll just have to console myself by looking at my 2005 IRS form 1099, which shows gross income from Schneider of over $538 thousand for 2005.
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$538,000 earned in 2005? Jeez Louise! That's over ten thousand per week. If I made that kind of money, in a few months I could junk my Yugo and buy a Lamborghini.Why.....I could even eat at the airport regularly.
#74 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, March 07, 2006
POSTED: Tuesday, March 07, 2006
Frank you could be working for schneider for 10 years or 20, & at the end of working for schneider for most of your life they could tell you to piss off & ruin your retirement & you would be starving or in a nursing home for all they care. How employers treat people today you can work for a company your whole life then get fired for no reason & ruining everything for you, schneider could make you lose your house car & everything & runin your credit & having bill collectors hound you. Employers do make you lose everything because they could care less about you & your financial problems, they have everything they need expensive car expensive house & could get all the loans they want & credit cards. Schneider can make you lose everything in a heartbeat.
I guess i rather be on welfare sense that is my only option at the moment in order for me to surive without being starved to death. I would not mind living in a homeless shelter at least it would be better then nothing, alot better then living on the streets in the cold & sleeping in the park.
#75 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, March 07, 2006
POSTED: Tuesday, March 07, 2006
I rather be poor then work for a sorry a** company like schneider, i rather be poor then be treated like crap like a sorry a** company like schneider they are a sorry a** company the way they treat people I rather not be a part of a company who treats people that way. I also hate people who have pride & are better then everybody else like curt & frank because they have pride & can mistreat people I hate people who think they are better then everybody. Schneider has treated me badly & I will not ever apply with them again!.
#76 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, March 09, 2006
POSTED: Thursday, March 09, 2006
I am still angry & discouraged from being lied ro from schneider, I would like a job to better my life then how my life is going know but I don't like the fact that schneider LIED about me not to accept me into their training school, schneider makes it hard for people to be accepted into their training school. I do not care if people like greg do not belive me or not I will continue to speak out!.
#77 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, March 12, 2006
POSTED: Sunday, March 12, 2006
People whine to us about moving on, well it is hard to move on after someone treats you like shit its not so easy to move on & we got to put up with people who have pride. Has people can see i have alot of freetime i have on my hands i can spend online complaining about bad companies like schneider!, I did what schneider told me to do! I got me a job i held it for a year without being fired not relating to driving & when I applied a year later I get turned down again, Schnedier asked me what i was doing for the rest of the other 24 months unemployed this is not what they told me when I applied with them two years ago so schneider lied to me, probally was telling me anything to get rid of me! so schneider lied to me two years ago!. If this is the way schneider feels about me then they can go to hell! I don't need them! to get into the trucking industry I am tired of being lied to & treated like shit so they will never have to worry about me applying with them again because if this is the way they are treating people who have not held a job for 36 months then they can piss off!.
#78 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, March 13, 2006
POSTED: Monday, March 13, 2006
I should file a suit for damages agaisnt for job discrimination!, because I have all the capabilities & job requirements! & job qualifications!, schneider discriminates agaisnt everybody I am more then capable of performing the job duties required, & I believe i have been fully discriminated agaisnt bye schneider. I am angry & discouraged as to the other post i believe this sounds like discrimination satan must be ceo of schneider & the manangers of schneiders are satans puppets, they will lie about you & possibly even lie on your application!. Why bother to file discrimination complaints with the EEOC after the investigation ends, they will conclude that no laws have been broken & you haven't been discrimanted agaisnt & close the complaint & give you a right to sue letter to file a federal lawsuit in court. So why have the EEOC or any other federal agencie if they are not going to take any action on the company that you have reported & the employer gets away with discrimination so why bother to even file complaints of discrimination if you are not going to be helped!, I believe I have been fully discriminated agaisnt by schneider because I have meet their qualifications & job requirements & I was "LIED" to I am not the only one schneider has discriminated agaisnt alot of other people who have meet their qualifications people who can do the job & still get turned down! these are ruthless people! & people need to start suing schneider for damanges caused by them because if people, inculding myself are capable of doing the job & have been discriminated agaisnt then schneider will have a dozen lawsuits on their backs!.
#79 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Robert - Jacksonville (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, March 13, 2006
POSTED: Monday, March 13, 2006
Discriminated asgainst a white guy. That'll get you ton of cash.
Wait...wait for it....BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!!!!!!
Good grief.
The employer can hire and fire anyone they want.
Considering the piss-poor drivers The Great Pumpkin hires, how bad do you have to be to NOT get hired by them? Do you drive like you spell?
I thought you were on your way to Arizona to drive for that other bastion of brilliant driving skills...Swift. I guess that fell through. You did know that writing is part of the job, right?
I offered the advice of starting your own business. Between your mother and yourself, the two of you should be able to do just great.
Of course, if one of you gets fired from your own company, will one sue the other for discrimination?
#80 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, March 15, 2006
POSTED: Wednesday, March 15, 2006
Don't people like curt, & greg realize its because of people like them who defend schneider keeps schneider how of trouble & ruins it for everybody who complains about them for being done wrong that is why companies or businesses get away with their fraudlent or criminal activies, or how wrong they treat people because of people like curt, or greg defending them is the reason why schneider is allowed to get away with their fraudlent ways.
#81 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, March 15, 2006
POSTED: Wednesday, March 15, 2006
Nothing works out the way you plan it, if I knew how schneider does then I would have never applied with them in the first place! if they lose business then they can blame nobody but themselves for treating people like they do they can suffer for all I care because I did meet the qualifications & schneider lied about me. I am probally going to go poor if i can't work then I wouldn't be able to use the internet, watch tv, or use the phone or have a place to sleep because I am not working. I am more then capable of performing the job I do not know what schneider's problem is about not accepting me into their training school like everybody else, I am better off without these people! I will not allow them to starv me to death! I will find other ways the internet is a big world with lots of other companies to find & I will find one sooner or later!.
#82 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, March 16, 2006
POSTED: Thursday, March 16, 2006
I thought going threw schneider would be a great way for me to be a truck driver & to get my cdl I thought wrong!, schneider lied to me I thought I was going to become a truck driver but after being mistreated by schneider their is no hope for me to become a truck driver. Nothing works out the way you planned out you can't even get into a simple trucking school without a 36 month working history, schneider lied to me 2 years ago when I applied 12/03 & schneider ruined my day, scnieder needs to get alot of people for how they way they treat people because if word gets out schneider will lose alot of business because nobody will bother to apply with them if this is they way that they treat people about not having a solid work history for 36 months. This is job discrimination I am more then capable of performing the job duties required, I grew up with trucking so I know a little about the trucking industry my grandfahter & uncle were both truck drivers & I went on the road with my uncle a few times, the state I traveled to the most was salt late city I found it very exciting & I feel i can adobt to this living I like to travel & see new places & I love to drive & I feel trucking will be the only way I get to experince this exciting job. I know I can do the job I know a little something about trucks my grandfahter taught me a little about them about your logs & reading a map to get to places I would find trucking to be a fun & exciting caree but its only a dream I dream off it will never happen so I can day dream about it all the time.
#83 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, March 17, 2006
POSTED: Friday, March 17, 2006
I can't even get into a truck driving school because I have not held a job for 36 months this is not what the mananger at schneider told me two years ago when I applied with them 12/03 that I did not have to hold a job for 36 months but do hold it for one year I held a job for a year without being fired which is what they told me to do it took me a while to find the job but i got it & i kepted it for a year. I worked at winn-dixie from 05/05-02/06 10 months it was a year I kepted this job & I haven't been fired I figured I quit sense I been @ winn-dixie for a year & get schneider another shot I applied 02/06 they got smart toward me in the interview & asked me what have I had been doing the other 24 months I told them I was in highschool from 1997-2003 when I graudated I applied for jobs but none of them ever called me back or wrote me, Then I told them I applied to winn-dixie 05/05 & stayed with them till 02/06 only two more months till my 1st year anniversary 10 months is a year I stayed with them for about a year without being fired. This is what schneider's manangers told me two years ago so I guess I was lied to for them to get rid of me & this time they told me I did not meet their qualifications this time it was a different story, I can not even get into a trucking school working in a grocery is very hard manual labor job I could not stand it anymore so I had to quit I do not know how the other people I worked with could stand or put up with a job like that but I stuck with it for 10 months I was grateful they hired me it was my first job but I was not used to manual labor you had to go all over the parking lot & gather bugies you had to put up with hateful custormers even if you did everything right & were kind & respectful toward them they were not they same towards you back you had to stand for 7 hours you get a break but it was only 30 minutes, you were thankful they let you have breaks in this kind of work because you are on your feet constantly this type job was not for me I feel sorry for the people that have to work that type job because you get tired real easily you had to work out in the hott & cold freezing weather & rainy weather & be sick all the time this past summer 2005 was the hottest summer in history. I was thankful I quit that grocery store job I did not realize how hard it was I am sure it is very hard for the cashiers then for us but I don't know how they could do it & stick with it I sure couldn't stick with it any longer its hard phyical work, I have always had an interest in truck driving & I will not let schneider keep me from acheiving my dream! they have ruined my day once & I will not let them ruin it again I will not bother to apply with them again! i will not waste my time with them anymore I am hurt know but I will get into a trucking school one way or another!.
#84 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Helene - Elgin (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, March 31, 2006
POSTED: Friday, March 31, 2006
I am one of the ladies who originally posted here and considered being a truck driver and now because of the flood of marginally illegal Mexican truck drivers, I am very glad I didn't do it. They are actually driving for $6 an hour around here BIG MONEY FOR TRUCK DRIVERS FORM THE INTERIOR OF MEXICO!The ones from Central America would drive for much less if they could get away with it --and I feel sure some employers are.
The comments about Schneider were of interest to me but I don't know if I want to commit to going so far from Texas to train. And if there would be the same sort of desparate cutthroat competition I am seeing now in the college in which I am enrolled.
Gone are the days when you were able to learn something because you loved learning! Because some guy in India, China or wherever they can do it cheaper, but not neccesaarily better, is going to have your job!
I went to a Swift Recruiting seminar and then I remembered an old saying:" Beware of a place that says they are always hiring because they are also always firing!" AND CHECK IT OUT!
After reading all of the stuff that is posted here, I have to admit I started thinking hard about what I was going to do with the rest of my life.
And I wonder how much money these trucking companies are making with their expensive schools and how many people are being enticed to enroll without a hope of graduating and then being stuck with the expenses for the ENTIRE class, never mind how much of it they actually attended before they were cut out? And how much money these trucking companies actually make for hauling freight?
Because of all the liars and scammers in Texas these days --especially when it comes to employment -- you betch I am going to check it out real good before I commit to anything!
I don't want to find out that I was lured in under false pretenses and then because of one minor detail, I am going to have any resources that I have garnished for some overpriced truck driving training...Off a minimum wage job, this can HURT! Take forever to pay it off...
So I decided to go back to school and get a degree instead of just a high school diploma. It will buy me some time until something happens in the job market...which right now is still not too good in Central Texas after the .com economy meltdown and most of the jobs going overseas to India, Pakistan and China.
The other day, I talked to some Mexican nationals( in Spanish) on the city bus who were FORCED to come to the US after THEIR JOBS were outsourced to CHINA! IMAGINE MEXICAN LABOR BEING OUTSOURCED TO CHINA! This is RIDICULIOUS! They were having the same problem finding work that I am and they have all sorts of referrals and family connections going for them...
It is CUTTHROAT in this school with all the younger students attempting to bury you and outdo you anyway they can including "accidentally" tripping you physically and messing up your lab work. How I feel sorry for the next generation of hospital patients because their nurses -- at least the ones around here-- are ONLY going in it for the MONEY! I see cliques of them passing test answers back and forth and nothing is done. It is age, race, ethnic and gender prejudice pure and simple... I got the heck out of that program when I found out that there is a Hepatitis B shot and a series of other questionable vaccines that are required before the nursing program students can enrolle in the actual program here. Several I have spoken with had extremely bad effects from the Hepatitis shot so I guess things will balance themselves out after a while.
So many times I wish I was driving out there but with the unstable petroleum markets and the various US government policies that appear to be so stackde AGAINST the AMERICAN working people, all I can do is keep my head down and wonder what in the HELL is going to happen next! And wonder what is going to happen to all of the people whose jobs are being downsized and outsourced like mine was originally when they realize that almost any job they train for can end up the same way.
I am still in school and trying to find a subject I can major in that won't go to India, Indonesia, Pakistan or any other Stan or China...
Who is ripping the people off most: these truck driving companies with bogus schools, the US government with their policy of underbidding American jobs and subsidizing them with our taxpayer money or the damned corporate yuppies who say screw the USA --and I sure hope they get to be homeless like they are making all my friends-- and send jobs to the lowest bidder wherever in the world these places might be located????
#85 Consumer Suggestion
AUTHOR: Dave - Kansas City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, April 01, 2006
POSTED: Saturday, April 01, 2006
Charles, I've been in the Trucking Business for 24 years, drivin mostly for Owner Operators, heres something for you to think about,, first, forget about being a freight (garbage hauler), try looking for a dump truck driving job hauling rock, sand, dirt for a local dump truck company nar you,, you'll make about the same or better money, than being stuck out on the road sitting around truck stops twittling your thumbs, and you'll be home every nite in a dump truck locally !!!!!
Second, this Trucking Industry is not worth the time or effort, like it was 20 or 30 years ago, the good times and money are,, Gone !!!!!!
If I was in your shoes at 22 yrs. of age,I'd seriously look into becoming a "Machinest" at a Local Machine Shop near you, who specializes in CNC Equipment, and be willing to learn how to operate a "Mill" or a Lathe !!!
A good machinest, can earn upwards of $50,000 to $70,000 dollars a year, and have great benefits, and be hom very nite, and have a real life !!!!! I'd suggest checking with your local community college for classes in Machine shop, or have a local machine shop guide you in the right direction to help you get started and get some training !!!!
You,, won't regret it, after about 5 years and see the kind of money you can make and the life you'll have compared to trucking,,, !!!!!!!!!
Just a piece of sound advice !!!!
#86 Consumer Suggestion
AUTHOR: Sean - Austin (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, April 13, 2006
POSTED: Thursday, April 13, 2006
Ok, first I would like to say I didn't read EVERY single post on this topic for many reasons, mostly due to bad grammar (Some of you spell worse than my 2 year old.).
Anyways, I have been driving a truck for 5 years now, got my start at a BIG company for 1 year, dropped them and moved to another big company for yet another year, mostly because 2nd company didn't require me to drive east coast. Any hoo
From there, I came to the understanding (Via CB and just BSing with other drivers) that I had put in enough time that I could drive for SMALLER more driver friendly companies and owner operators. Which means all kinds of more good things, like MORE MONEY, MORE HOMETIME, and not being treated like a # by a company or a classroom graduate by the other drivers on the road.
In 2 years, I went from a guy driving for a LARGE company at .38cpm to actually making REAL money in a REAL truck at %50 or more of what the load paid. Now i'm looking into buying my own truck so I can make a full %100 of that.
I suppose what I'm trying to say is for you guys starting out driving a truck, if its what you REALLY want to do, and you don't have a friend or family member with a truck you can jump on with, go with a big company, stick it out for a year or two just to gain some experience, THEN you can get into REAL trucking and make good money and be happy. Just takes time.
OH, on a side note, it helps to have good people skills and the ability to communicate with people face to face and over the phone.
10-4?
#87 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, April 17, 2006
POSTED: Monday, April 17, 2006
I see schneider is still sending people like you to insult or attack us about our spelling, so how much is schneider paying you to insult us in hopes for us to stop complaining about schneider. Since you think your such writing professional to use this website to bully & insult us is really ridiculous, schneider did not have to accept me & i do not have to go with schneider after how hateful they were to me when i applied & how hateful like people like you are hateful to me & to judge me about my spelling. If anyone speaks rude to me i will speak the same way back i guess people haven't seen that by know that we ain't taken nobodys abuse. To your comment about having brains i do have brians to drive a truck i have brians to drive a car but schneider made false statements for the reason not to hire me & schneider is sending its employees to attack us & retaliate, well its not going to keep us from speaking out!.
#88 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Patrick - Gilbert (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, April 17, 2006
POSTED: Monday, April 17, 2006
Charles,
You are a very paranoid person! All Sean was doing was providing information about his own experiences in the trucking industry. And he did not specify anyone in particular regarding bad spelling and grammar.
Charles, you seem to be a legend in your own mind. And you wonder why people label you a "madman". For crying out loud, you have made 12 consecutive (that means "in a row") posts on your Claude Raptis report, pretty much saying a whole lot of nothing. No wonder people make fun of you.
You will need a lot thicker skin if you want to get by in this world.
#89 Employee
AUTHOR: A - Scurry (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, April 26, 2006
POSTED: Wednesday, April 26, 2006
Charles, if you graduated from high school in 03, and applied 1/04 you were either showing you graduated at the age of 20 or more, or you weren't old enough. You have to be 21 to get your CDL.
#90 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, April 27, 2006
POSTED: Thursday, April 27, 2006
I was 22 years old when i applied with schneider. Schneider did not accept me because i did not have 3 year work history & have to put up with people like frank & greg calling me a liar!
#91 Employee
AUTHOR: A - Scurry (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, April 27, 2006
POSTED: Thursday, April 27, 2006
Charles, you said you graduated from high school in 2003 earlier. That means you were a 21 yr old senior. The three work history thing...they can determine what they want for work history. Any company can! A lot of truck companies require a couple years of driving experience before they'll even consider you. They have the right to want a stable work history.
#92 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, April 27, 2006
POSTED: Thursday, April 27, 2006
Everybody has this wrong has usually, i was applying for their company paid driving school not a company driver i think this is what schneiders problem is to. I am not applying has a company driver i am applying has a student driver, not has a company driver you got things all mixed up. I know you need one years experince of over the road driving before anybody will hire you, i was applying for the company paid driving school, has i said in my previous post. I was not applying has a company driver people need to read my post a little more careful!.
#93 Employee
AUTHOR: A - Scurry (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, April 28, 2006
POSTED: Friday, April 28, 2006
Companies that offer company based training (trucking or not) do not train outside people. They train people they want working for them. Instead of crying the way you have, you should just go to a driving school through a Jr. College. Most of them have classes that are six weeks long.
#94 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, April 30, 2006
POSTED: Sunday, April 30, 2006
You'er wrong, schneider does train outside people you do not have to work for them to attend their company paid driving school i never heard of that before they don't take outside people. They why do they advertise in my local newspaper for if they don't take outside people i do not know where you get your information from but your wrong!.
#95 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Pat - Santa Rosa (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, May 01, 2006
POSTED: Monday, May 01, 2006
I want to say thanks to Curt in Colorado, Len in Texas, and Greg in Michigan for giving some intelligent advice on your experience with trucking. I am a female who is considering truck driving school here in town. I am not considering long haul at the time with all the uncertainties. Paul you were so negative and discouraging, I'm glad some others had more positive opinions to level it out. After (what seemed like hours) of reading through all the comments, it sounded more like a chat room than a place for legal problems. I am surprised they keep publishing the complaints from Alabama. This guy has his own chat room going, and it seems he could start a fight in an empty bar.
Yes, your spelling and grammar are both terrible. Not to mention 'potty' mouth. And just what do you think someone reading your resume would think? Your resume cannot be a "run-on sentence" with no periods! You sound angry and totally wound, just the kind of person a trucking company wants driving, right??? In the name of God, get professional help. I can't believe the home you are in is letting you have internet access.
#96 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, May 01, 2006
POSTED: Monday, May 01, 2006
Do people ever give up? They keep being rude to me I'll be rude back. Oh yeah pat my sentences are not run-ons I have been told this many times before but I will ignore people like you, curt, greg, & len.
On this website you can insult me about my spelling all you feel like I will not quit posting complaints & you people can defend these people curt, greg, who insult me & schneider or try to tear me up!
Ya'll try to ruin my day but it's not going to work this website isn't used for insulting people & causing drama like curt, len, & greg. I don't need to take this abuse & I am not going to about my typing & writing. Tthis website wasn't intend for people to judge people I don't know who people think they are treating me like this. I had every right to report to this website the type of treatment schneider gave to me & if you have some kind of problem with me then thats your problem. We will make a difference from how companies treat us!.
#97 Employee
AUTHOR: A - Scurry (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, May 02, 2006
POSTED: Tuesday, May 02, 2006
Charles, they place ads in newpapers all over the country trying to get drivers. They only train people they are possibly interested in hiring. Trust me, I'm not wrong. If you don't believe me, call their phone number and ask if they'll train you, then let you go wherever you want. They'll charge you for quitting the company before your contract is up. The contract you sign at the beginning of training states that you will work for them for one and a half years, or pay them for the training. Some companies only need a year, but are going to one and a half or two year contracts like Schneider has done. Several companies have had two year contract for the last couple of years.
#98 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, May 03, 2006
POSTED: Wednesday, May 03, 2006
Here people go again, judging me about my spelling & typing i have been told this many times before but i will not keep queit people judge people to much. People can say my spelling is terrible all they feel likfe, people like curt, greg, len, frank, curt are the most negative & discouring people i have ever seen don't listen to them they try to discourage people from posting complaints. They are the ones that need mental help seems if anybody points out flaws in their arguements they tell everybody to move on!, they need to move on!.
#99 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, May 12, 2006
POSTED: Friday, May 12, 2006
I, have a right to my opinion just like everybody else noone has the right to insult me about my typing skills or spelling skills, people think that they can sit behing a computer & say every filth garbage they can to people. I don't need schneider i have decided to give up trucking & I'm going to college so i can have a better job then schneider who will probally terminate me while i am 1,000 miles away from home without transportation.
#100 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, May 18, 2006
POSTED: Thursday, May 18, 2006
Just, ignore greg, curt, lean, i would not know why greg chose me to attack they are other people complaining about schneider, they come to this website to keep people from complaining about schneider.
#101 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Erik - El Dorado Hills (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, May 18, 2006
POSTED: Thursday, May 18, 2006
I can't believe that you guys aren't aware that there are trucking companies who offer 21 days out & 9-10 days in on regional routes. That's excellent, and similar to a firefighter's schedule.
It doesn't always work out that way, because you will find yourself 3 states away from your home state on your first day off from time to time, but 90% of the time they stick to their home time promise to you. If you're 2-3 weeks OTR and only getting 2-3 days home time you're working for the wrong company.
I won't mention the companies here, but if you do a google search for OTR trucking companies you will find the ones that give 21 out / 9-10 in... quite a few actually. Spend some time and do the research.
#102 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, August 01, 2006
POSTED: Tuesday, August 01, 2006
Even, If I do find one year work experince I will not apply with schneider after how ugly they where to me about me not having no work history, It does not make no sense if you have a clean background that you cannot be excepted into a truck driving school!.
If, you have a clean back ground & clean driving record you still cannot be excepted into a trucking school, & its even tought to be excepted into a company-paid training school because you had no work history!.
I, wasted my time & effort to apply with schneider! If they was just going to turn me down!, even If I did hold a job for 12 months I would not apply for their company-paid training! after how ugly they told to me!, about not having a work history!.
#103 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, October 14, 2006
POSTED: Saturday, October 14, 2006
I, just got accepted into swift training school so I don't need schneider anymore If I had applied with swift from the beginning, I would not had to deal with all this. I, don't know what the problem was with schneider but swift accepted me even with my lack of work history, I am glad swift accepted me I will work hard not to let them down!
I, am excited they have accepted me I have their prehire letter with me, I don't care about schneider they will not have to worry about me again!. I, have found someone who accepted me & is willing to train me this is my first job I had ever had, I will be able to handle the job.
#104 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Tom - Fresno (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, October 26, 2006
POSTED: Thursday, October 26, 2006
I ran across this website looking for truck driving school opportunities when I discovered Charles.
Charles, aside from the fact that I believe you could better channel your energy into some Community College English classes to learn how to spell and communicate better, I am now concerned that you may actually get a CDL and be out on the road in an 80,000 lb. rig with your pent-up anger. For the safety of you and others, please commit to at least anger management classes.
Charles, please seek assistance in these areas as soon as possible. You will be a better person and truck driver for it.
Best Regards,
Tom from California
#105 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, October 28, 2006
POSTED: Saturday, October 28, 2006
I, am not listening to these people who wish to discredit me on this website & insulting me about my spelling, I got accepted from swift & that is all I am going to say!.
All, people have done is bring ridcule agaisnt me they haven't figured out but know I am not listening!. I, don't need schneider! I got accepted from swift I should have applied with swift from the beginning!.
#106 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: David - BULLHEAD CITY (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, November 08, 2006
POSTED: Wednesday, November 08, 2006
Swift is a good company to start out with. I worked for them a few years and found them to be fair with little problems but with all trucking companys the bottom line is they want someone to haul thier fieght safely and on time. If you can do those 2 things and act like a man you should be ok.
#107 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Bill - East Aurora (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, November 26, 2006
POSTED: Monday, November 27, 2006
OK, I need to make a serious comment here. I am a future driver, and I stumbled across this site and this thread in particular while researching carriers that offer paid driver training. It's very informative, generally, to read about people's experiences with these companies. But after a while, you begin to realize that many people really bring about their own misfortune by their own actions and attitudes. Actually, many people already know that, but these forums can really bring that concept into 3D.
SO- I began to follow this thread... and soon, there was Charles' first post, written on 6/12/04. It seemed he was disappointed to be turned down by Schneider for reasons that are commonplace throughout the industry- lack of verifiable and stable work history. He took this rejection personally. So much so that he posted, approximately, *60* more posts on this thread over the 2& 1/2 years that followed. Not counting his contributions elsewhere. Recently he has announced he has been hired by Swift.
I honestly don't mean this post to be insulting to you personally, Charles. But I and many others can recognize signs of mental instability in your repeated, single-minded posts, your lack of a rational argument, and your hypersensitivity to criticism. Your disordered spelling and word usage strongly suggests a cluttered, unfocused, and disordered mind. I think you need help. I am not putting you down, there is no shame in needing help. But I cringe to imagine you behind the wheel of an 80,000 lb truck, I wouldn't want to be anywhere near you. I'm just being honest here.
Besides, would you want Swift to read all your ranting posts about another carrier? They would think, what would keep him from doing that to us? Is he that mentally unstable? And believe me, the word is, Schneider is a much better place to work than where you said you are going... Best wishes to you Charles. Please, if only for now, reconsider your career, for the safety of everyone else on the road.
#108 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, November 30, 2006
POSTED: Friday, December 01, 2006
People, don't give up do they its their goal to critize me & cause me more emitional stress they will never give up, I will not chose another career & people is not going to tell me other wise. People, need to try to quit painting me has something else or someone dangerous on the roads, I have had my license for 4 years & I been in an accident or had a speeding ticket, I had not been giving a ticket for reckless driving or any other moving violatioh!. People, need to stop protraying me has some dangerous driver who will cause people harm driving a truck, I have a clean driven record. Schneider, said my application was in good status but they made a fuss cause I never held a job. Well, swift accepted me into their training school what was the problem with schneider, accepting me. Well, swift accepted me into their training school & I could care less if people think of me has some bad driver, I don't have to prove anything to these people who has to say anything negative to me with what I have to say!.
#109 Consumer Suggestion
AUTHOR: Joe - East Jaytown (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, December 01, 2006
POSTED: Saturday, December 02, 2006
Good for you Charles! At least this will end your tirades against them every few days!!!
You really don't need to repeat your story every few days -- WE ALL GET IT BY NOW... GET OVER IT! MOVE ON WITH LIFE!
With the funds you make driving, PLEASE ENROLL in a "Beginning English" class. Take this as constructive criticism -- YOU REALLY NEED IT!
#110 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, December 13, 2006
POSTED: Wednesday, December 13, 2006
I, don't need schneider this is my last response! sense people continue to critize me for nothing!, & insult me!
I got accepted from swift I wish I had applied with swift from the beginnging if i knew schneider was going to treat me like this!. I, have not done anything wrong my belief is schneider did not want to accept me well I showed schneider that I could get accepted into a trucking school!, without needing their help in learning to become a truck driver! they are other companies besides schneider who offer company-paid training!.
I, thought schneider would be a great way to learn to become a truck driver, I thought wrong cause I never held a job I could not even get accepted into a trucking school, I am not the only one schneider has done this to.
Schneider, told me my application was in good status It was a waste of time for me to apply with schneider I should have applied with swift sense I had better chances of being accepted from them then schneider!, well if people continue to apply with schneider & they get burn lets say they had been warned about schneider!.
#111 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Robin - Hermiston (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, March 16, 2007
POSTED: Saturday, March 17, 2007
Charles,
I was sad after realizing that you lack the basic ability to sound out your word's so that you can spell correctly.
I also am sad that you obviously have some very important issues that I am sure you will not acknowledge.
Most importantly is that I am SCARED. For a multitude of reason's, having you behind the wheel of one of these dangerous machines will cause me great anxiety. I feel that many people's lives are going to be at stake. I seriously doubt that you will pass any kind of apptitude test so perhaps we can find a bit of comfort in that.
I am sorry that you are not the right person for a truck driving career, but you must agree that we have a right to be safe on the road that we must share with you.
I am not going to go on and on badgering you, I just hope you will find a clear moment and think logically.
Ok, all of that being said I must admit that this thread cracked me, I was laughing so hard that tears were rolling off my face.
#112 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, March 22, 2007
POSTED: Thursday, March 22, 2007
This is clearly discrinmantion schneider not accepting me for their trucking school. I can sue them for failure to hire me. when I applied with schneider 01/2004 they told me my application was in good standing. when I applied in 01/2006 they told me I did not meet their qualifications u see the two different stories they said to me!
Even if I did get more work experince I will not apply with schneider, I decided not to take the job with swift if swift accepted me with never holding a job then what is the problem with schneider. Its not up to people to tell me not to drive a truck I dont care what people say or try to discourage me! If I do get more experince I will not apply with schneider they would just probally turn me down again!
I am tired of all the personally attacks agaisnt me sense I chose to come public about the wrong schneider did to me with all these internet bullies personally attacking me. Laugh, all u wish u have just proved u are the ignorant one thinking u already have job security & think u already have everything!
All people wanna do is discredit me for no reason! I dont need schneider even if I do get more work experince I will not apply with schneider again after how they treated me, cause I never held a job I cannot even get accepted into a trucking school. Let me say this again I was not applying has a company driver I was applying for their trucking school. I do not know why people get this so mixed up. I dont need schneider so people can keep up their personall attacks agasint me for no reason, people can laugh all they feel like!
#113 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Steve [Not A Lawyer] - Bradenton (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, March 24, 2007
POSTED: Saturday, March 24, 2007
Charles,
About 6 months ago, you posted that you got accepted at Swift.
Please let us know how things are going there and be sure to give me your truck# so I can watch out for it while I am on the road.
However, the Schieder issue is almost 3 years old now, and I think is a very worn out issue.
#114 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Kelly - Alliance (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, March 27, 2007
POSTED: Tuesday, March 27, 2007
First of all, thank you in advance for any information you all might have for me. (As I roll on the floor in laughter)
My husband and myself are currently looking into trucking as career changes for both of us. I've been an engineer in the television industry for 23 years (which is being phased out due to computer servers taking over for people) and he is a steel worker in a fading industry. We are looking to team drive since all our children are grown and we have the freedom to do so. As I look on the net to find out what a "WorkWell" physical consists of at Swift Driving Academy.... low and behold, I run across this lovely website and read NUMEROUS posts advising me to turn and run, as fast as possible, away from Swift.
I am currently scheduled to finish my last day on the job on Apr. 9th and be in Tennessee on Apr. 10th for "Swift". Fortunately, my employer knows what I'm attempting and are kind enough to grant me time off the schedule to chase my dreams, yet if things were NOT to work out for me, I have a job waiting to return to. NOW, here is my question.
Since reading the posts on Swift AND Schneider, I'm in a MAJOR scramble (as my hubby bows at my feet for finding out the dread before being part of it lol) I contacted 2 additional companies that offer training today. These companies consist of Transport America (seems like a decent company) and P.A.M. Transport. Nobody responded to my email or telephone call from Transport America as of yet, however, P.A.M. is willing to have the both of us in school as early as Apr. 16th. I will know alot more on this approaching Friday. Not only that, but with P.A.M., the school we will be attending is a mere 30 minutes from our home, meaning we can do this while eating and sleeping at our own home in our own bed instead of 2 states away.
Does ANYONE out there have any good, bad or ugly things to report on the additional two companies I have contacted? I sure like foresight better than hindsight and would appreciate any truckers privy to any information that might give me some useful inside scoop. Before I make the commitment. Thanks gang. Have a great day.
PS. Does anyone really think we need to worry about Charles passing the permit test? Just a thought ; )
#115 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, March 31, 2007
POSTED: Sunday, April 01, 2007
I, thank u for your advise people continue to call me names everyday & put me down all they want to do is discredit me, I spoke out public about the wrong schneider done to me swift accepted me with no problem without me having a sold working history then what was the problem with schneider. People, should not call me names or put me down to try to ruin things for me I knew it would be like this, when I would make this complaint on this website they are laws against companies discriminating agaisnt u, which I feel I have been discrinmanted agaisnt from schneider. If, people would just quit posting negative insults to my post this website would be better.
#116 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Harvey - Jeffersonville (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, April 05, 2007
POSTED: Thursday, April 05, 2007
their school, what can i say? i never went there. i started trucking before there was a cdl. back when the icc controlled everything with spot checks and portable scales. i am what everybody calls one of the dinosaurs. i quit driving and went into construction work in 1964. after the const.repair boom ended in the late 80's i got a job hauling containers out of mt.pleasant sc. when the cdl issue came about, in order for me to obtain a cdl and meet the new guidelines set up by the dot so that all drivers would be equally trained and qualified i had to obtain training at a certified driving school. during training several recruiters from different co's interviewed trainees as possible new hires for their companies.
now charles, this is for you alone. strange as it may seem, and somewhat contrary to what everyone else is saying, in a way i can understand your anger and frustration because with all my years in trucking, believe it or not, they told me i wasn't qualified. i still have the letter of rejection. back then i felt as you do and right now i still wouldn't work for them even though they are a good company for a new driver to start with. you can always move on later.
kelly and hubby, this is for you. i highly commend you on your choice of job change and wish you all the best in your new career choice. the multitude of companies out there that train drivers is too numerous to mention but as to transport america they are an excellant school (my son teaches there) at their facility in sellersburg,in and they would be glad to have you and your husband as students.
last but not least, greg this is for you. start with good training at a reputable co. or school and after you learn how this business functions, by all means go for your owner operator status but please don't try doing it through lease-purchase. first of all no matter how you slice it, you will pay thousands for a truck you will never own, pay for all it's maintenance, it's fuel, it's tires and repairs, it's permits,road use taxes, fuel taxes and your own state and federal taxes plus all the other expenses you will have in this endeavor. not trying to discourage you, just trying to open your eyes. as to how much you can earn? i own my own truck and i net 140,000. per year. stay away from lease purchase. all you will do is buy someone else's truck for them. happy trails..........
the old buzzard
#117 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Samantha - Newborn (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, May 08, 2007
POSTED: Tuesday, May 08, 2007
First, in relation to this post, I have to say that although I have never worked for Schneider, my former dispatcher did after the company I started with went belly up. She said that their policies were so stringent on pay, that she often had her hands tied when a driver requested pay for certain things like layover, delay pay, etc. She has since left the company, because she felt that the work environment was very negative.
Second, when looking to become a truck driver you must keep in mind that a recruiter is a "sales person." They get paid on the number of drivers they bring into a company, and they really don't care if you are successful. Some important questions to ask when looking at a company are...1. What is your base pay? NEVER add in bonus as these are just that and some companies have very strict guidelines in acheiving these "bonuses" that are nearly impossible to achieve your first year. A general rule of thumb is to multiply your base pay by 2300 to 2500 miles...this is more likely to be closer to what you will average your first year, but always keep in mind that that most companies experience significant slow periods during the first 3-5 months of the year. 2. Ask what customers are in your local area (within 50 miles of your home) both inbound and outbound. If you live in an area like New England, this is important because many companies have inbound customers but must broker freight to get you out. This can significantly impact your earning potential if you have to stay home and extra day waiting on a load. (A fact most companies won't tell you is that they do NOT pay layover if you are home, and being home puts you at the bottom of the list to get a load out. If you live in an area that is difficult to get out of, perhaps it is better to speak with your dispatcher about sending you home loaded, even if it means that you have to elave on a Sunday night to make your delivery, this will make you active in the system and you are less likely to be delayed.)
Third, if you want to be home every other weekend your first year, you can expect to make in the high 20s to low 30s, depending on your base rate.
Fourth, talk with your family, if you need to, about what holidays are important to them. I found that working a little less than half of all holiday weekends increased my earnings, once I learned where the "team" freight was and was able to work with my dispatcher to be positioned in these locations on the eve of a holiday weekend, such as Memorial Day.
Fifth, your dispatcher will make or break you. You MUST be clear with your dispatcher about your expectations from the very beginning. Have a conversation with them so that you both can be on the same page. If you have a prticularly difficult one, you can always change your dispatcher, but in doing so you may have to provide examples to show that YOU are NOT the problem.
Sixth, to be truely successful, and earn a reputation for being a "good driver" in the eyes of your dispatcher and load planners is to adopt this philosophy: "I don't care where the freight is going, but I expect to have a load when empty. I expect to be able to get home when I give the company notice, and expect that I will be able to get back on the road when my home time is complete."
Seven, if the company, either your dispatcher or load planner, asks for a favor, document EVERY WORD on the satellite. Ask them what they are gonna do for you in return...do NOT let them owe you one..chances are their memory is selective. Request a pre-plan to back up the favor, or sometimes extra pay, depending on the situation. If they want the favor done bad enough, they WILL negotiate.
Eight, NEVER take a load you are unable to do, unless you say that you cannot complete the load on the satellite from the beginning. This will help you to gain great respect from your dispatcher and the laod planners.
Nine, every load you take has potential hazards to you, your reputation, your family, and everyone else on the road...don't take a load if you are too tired to drive, regardless of how many hours your log book says you have! (Safety is key, this really should be NUMBER 1).
Ten, COMMUNICATE with your dispatcher.
Eleven, never expect customer service to call a customer. If you are able to deliver early, call the customer..(if you company does not allow this..say you called for clarification on directions or to find out if they had overnight parking available to eliminate delays in traffic;) let the customer know that you can be there at whatever time you THINK you can be there..but add a couple of hours for possible delays. (For example, say "I can be there between 4:00 and 6:00 this afternoon, depending on traffic"). Customers are more likely to work with the driver, they've come to not trust customer service. Often times customers will take you early..but make sure you are not pushy..just say something like, "I just wanted to find out if there is enough room for me to park there, out of the way, overnight, so I am not delayed in traffic in the morning." The customer will either say yes or no. If yes, "okay great, I can be there between ____ and ____, if its convenient for you and you are open, I am willing to deliver early, if not, I'll wait until my appointment time." You'd be surprised how many loads I've delivered a day early. If you can arrange this with the customer, then make sure your dispatcher knows this so they can get working on another load, or change the time you will be available.
And lastly, plan your trip! Don't spend unnecessary time and money in the truck stops and rest areas. Sleep at every opportunity because you can only drive as much as your body will allow you to..this does not always coincide with your log book. (An budgeting note: make sure you budget enough money to eat. You can expect to pay about $10 per meal in a truck stop. Eat as healthy as you can, because high fat and sugary foods make your body crash, it's best to eat as well a balanced meal as you can to keep your energy from yo-yoing.)
Now with respect to truck driving schools, be clear about how many hours you will have behind the wheel. Keep in mind that these schools DO NOT really teach you how to drive, but they teach you enough to pass the DOT CDL exam, as well as the basics on logging, etc. Once you go out with a company trainer, LISTEN to what he or she has to say, and ASK questions if you are unsure about something. This will show them that you actually want to LEARN.
One other thing I should have mentioned about companies..beware of companies that do not put their policies in writing about extra pay such as drops, layovers and detention. Chances are they will begin skirting the issue and find excuses not to pay you. ASK if they specify these things and amount in their SOP (Standard Operation Procedures) manual. If not, either talk to other drivers that work for the company to see if they get paid for these things or just STAY AWAY.
I hope this is helpful to anyone looking at either Schneider or any other company or school program. I will tell you something both my instructor and trainer told me, "They can teach a monkey to drive a truck, but only a few people can truely be classified as a PROFESSIONAL driver." Strive to be a PROFESSIONAL, and you will be okay. Included in this is managing your time, money, and knowlege, by asking for more training when needed...such as skid pad training before your first winter out.
#118 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Steve01 - Rocky Ridge (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, January 08, 2008
POSTED: Tuesday, January 08, 2008
I graduated from a local community college truck driving school in august2004, obtain a MD class A, one week before graduating i had deployment orders giving me only 2 weeks to prepare for the wonderful 18 months in Iraq. I was shot at, dodged RPG,s, avoived roadside bombs or at least tried to, slept 2 maybe 3 hours daily and now i find myself laughing at some complainers on here.
Anyways when i returned to the states i could not find a job driving otr because of the gap between cdl school and the time i was applying. Everyone i was interested in driving for wanted experienced drivers or to go through the training again. Lets face it school is expensive plus the time your not working or making little money. If i could have i would done the training again or at least a week refresher course.
I had the same problem of the gap in employment as someone else wrote from the time that i got back home and the time i began working again, I am sure that i could have cheated and falsified some documents or something but it would have caught up with me at a later date. I am now driving a dump truck pulling trailer or pushing snow for about a year now and still hear the same story from all the companies that i apply. I will be the first to say i need a trainer otr but not the full classroom and yard training and companies i talk to just dont seem to understand, most of which tell me what i want to hear untill the next phone call.
Schnieder offers a re-entry program, does anyone know how this works, they are also recomended through different millitary websites for separating soilders. I am intersested in thier home run program, drive 2 week and home 1. I hear alot of negitivity about schnieder, swift, jbhunt etc. but i hear this about every company in the world. Anyone who can give me information on the positives and negitives of driving for Schnieder (prior-employee, employee, relitive, not just hear-say) please let me know if this might be worth pursuing.
Charles, I was in buisness for myself for 7 years, i know it might be hard to find a job with little, none or poor work history. I know i wouldnd have hired you with your bad attitude and foul mouth. Try the millitary, they will straighten your a$$ out quick.
#119 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Rodney - Grandview (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, January 14, 2008
POSTED: Monday, January 14, 2008
First, you have to ignore Chuckles. He is the comic relief of rip-off report. I have been in the industry for a little of 20 years. I worked for Swift as a classroom instructor at one of their now defunct academies. These huge companies, ie. Swift, Schneider, CR England work out for a very few people. Their high turn-over is not viewed as a problem because there is a seemingly endless sea of new drivers cropping up every week. Their number one priority is to make a dollar, which of course is about every business' main objective, but the backbone of a company ( the driver) should be protected.
Finding a job with a smaller company, which from my experience usually treat their drivers fair, is almost impossible with no experience due to insurance regulations. The advice I gave to my students was to stick it out one year, then if things are not going well, find a company that is more suited to your specific needs. Good luck and thanks for your service.
#120 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, January 17, 2008
POSTED: Thursday, January 17, 2008
I, do not like being accused of thing's I do not do. I, do not have a foul mouth.
Schneider, didn't want me well I found another company who would hire me. I,
proved to schneider & everyone elese that I found another company who would
hire me regardless of my working history.
#121 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: John - Califon (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, January 17, 2008
POSTED: Thursday, January 17, 2008
are you allegedly collecting social security AND allegedly working somewhere? You are not over 62.
#122 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Ishme - Salina (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, January 19, 2008
POSTED: Saturday, January 19, 2008
First, fire away. Blast me into oblivion. I have tough skin, I'm wearing my big girl panties, and internet fights are silly. I'm also sitting here wearing one of my Schneider shirts.
Anyway. On to my point.
I've tried to read all the responses, but it is rather difficult when the spelling and grammar are horrible, not to mention the large postings of a single paragraph. Sorry to say, they make my head hurt, and I skipped them.
My husband spent 7 years in the army, and served a year in Iraq. When he got home, he was released from his military obligation, honorable discharge, blah blah.
He had always talked of driving a truck, he had heavy equipment expierience (seems as if an M1A1 Abrams is classified as "heavy equipment"), and loves to drive. Loves to drive so much that when we go cross country to visit his family, he does the lion's share of the driving.
If that is what he wanted to do, then so be it. He doesn't stand in the way of my dreams, I won't stand in the way of his.
First, he went and got his CDL permit, which cost around $40 if memory serves me. He filled out the application online for Schneider, received his interview phone call a day or two later, and a week after that, he was on a (prepaid/theypaid) bus to Green Bay, Wisconsin. They paid for his hotel, and 2 meals a day. His hotel was a nice one, and he got along well with his roommate. (I did send him with $200 cash as money for incedentals while he was there.)
He passed drivers training with ease, and not long after he got home from his two week training, he was out with a trainer. We still have contact with the trainer, his wife and I became good friends, and we had a bbq this last fall...anyway, two weeks after being with his trainer, he went to take his driving test. He called me after the test, so happy and so proud of his new shiny CDL (Cost, $60).
We waited another few days, and he got a call from Schneider saying we needed to go to XX rental car company and pick up his rental car so he could drive to the OC where his new truck was. No, we didn't have to pay for the rental car, Schneider picked up the tab.
So all this cost us a whopping $300, and while he signed the year contract, he had a job, and one he thought he would love.
He has been from one end of the country to the other. Some checks are bigger than others, but the health insurance is great. They have winter training, and he gets new boots (free). They have spring training, and he gets more (free) boots.
He has had hellish customers, and he has had great customers. He's had breakdowns, hes been up to his knees in mud in customer lots, he's been so frustrated with the company that he's wanted to quit, and he's been so happy with his job that he wants to stay forever.
It isn't easy. I get daily phone calls, I get to see him once a week (he has since moved from systems to dedicated), sometimes he comes home smelling horrible because he hasn't had a shower all week, sometimes he tells me that he can't talk long because he has to leave at 2am to get his load to the customer on time.
Some days he hates it. Some days he loves it. On that note, some days I hate my job too, some days I love my job, and lots of times I don't think I'm getting paid enough...but that is how it is for working america. We are overworked and underpaid, and far far under appreciated for the work we do.
But...if you have a job you love, you will never work a day in your life.
I'm sorry that all those people didn't get to have their chance at being a truck driver, but the requirements are pretty clear, and are there for a reason. They want to see a job history so they don't get screwed out of their $3500 training course, they want to see your criminal history to make sure you aren't a serial killer, and want to see your driving record because they don't want their very expensive trucks turned into very expensive yard art.
You didn't get the job because you lied on the application? Well, in response, I have to ask if you like being lied to, and how many times you would allow someone to lie to you before you said enough? If someone lies, and gets caught, then comes clean, it is sort of a good thing because they finally confessed, but what else are they lying about?
You are 20 or 22 and have never had a job. Ok. Neither right nor wrong, it just IS. However, it is one of the requirements to get a job with someplaces. It isn't that hard to go get a job somewhere, keep your head down and your mouth shut for a year, then apply for the job.
The people that do the phone interviews will not falsify information. If you have a problem that is still showing up on your driving record that shouldn't be there, take the steps to remove it.
Instead of sitting around waiting for someone else to do it for you, or whining about how "they" screwed you out of a job when it was clearly your fault, take steps to fix what is broken, and learn to accept responsibility when you are indeed at fault.
In other words, grow up a bit before you are on your own on the open road with deadlines to meet, miles to drive, trailers that are in horrible shape, 4-wheelers that think they are the only car on the road, weather that is impossible, and you don't have anyone standing over you breathing down your neck to git-er-dun.
Schneider has a lot to offer to you, if you have a lot to offer to them. It is a give and take type of a relationship...you get out of it what you put into it.
#123 Consumer Suggestion
AUTHOR: Friendly Observer - Sparks (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, March 20, 2008
POSTED: Thursday, March 20, 2008
You were sadly did not have the common sense to be forthright on your application, you understandably got caught up in answering all questions a certain way likely by repetition. (Giving you the benefit of the doubt as I have not looked up the application.)
But when you had the opportunity to set the record straight you allowed the phone interviewer to falsify information. When you allowed this to happen you became responsible for the outcome. She was not applying for a job, you were. Any one of reasonable intelligence should understand that when you lie on an application you will likely be found out as most decent jobs require a background check. And any discrepancy in your app and your report will cause you to be declined employment or in this case an employer sponsored training program if you are caught.
If you some how slip through the cracks and are hired. In almost any industry if at any time in the future the employer finds out that false information was given on the application it is cause for immediate termination, even in State that have the most stringent law protecting employees. Even the most generic forms available from office supply stores have this type of disclaimer. Giving false information on an employment application IS CAUSE FOR IMMEDIATE TERMINATION. ( WHO doesn't know that?.)
Ishme my dear you wrote a very touching letter and had some good points but seem to have confused two different respondents or should I say the "Originator of this thread and the one who tries to monopolize it and any other related to Schneider International. YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE CHARLIE BOY. And I do mean boy, grow up Charles.
You managed to make it to 22 years old without any work experience you should be proud to muck stalls if you even know what that means. (It means cleaning up horse crap.) They do have horse's were you are from.
I'm amazed no one in this thread has called you a liar as it is common in others. You seem to be stuck on one major point that Schneider has discriminated against you for having no work experience. Many jobs require work history a lot of them require industry related experience.
You most recently said that Swift offered you training ( not guaranteed employment) thank whatever or who ever you believe in. As the thought of you in control of a Semi give me shivers. If in fact you have gone on with Swift why do we keep hearing from you... And yeah I know you are still out there you just posted on http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/220/RipOff0220334.htm on 3/1/08 in fact you are so paranoid ( means you think that everyone is out to get you ) that you responded with not only your irrational rhetoric but lashed out at Anthony. Who for starters didn't even have a comment on that thread. But is one of the most rational and articulate contributers to for sure the Mypie thread and others.
Earlier in this commentary you said you went to work for a grocery store 5/05 to 2/06 and then reapplied to Schneider you were very upset that the interviewer told you the company would fill the open position from more qualified candidates as you only had demonstrated 10 months of work experience. You later go on to say that you did commit to a year of work and were still passed over..
You are in serious need of basic math skills as even a graduate of the 6th grade knows there are 12 months in a year not 10.
You failed to mention whether you quit or were fired. Doesn't really matter as you couldn't keep an entry level job. Likely stocking shelves as anyone in management would have to have a screw loose to put you in any kind of customer facing position with your poor grammar. Take note, I did not mention your spelling. But my 6 year old nephew speaks better than you write. I think you probably felt slighted by someone be it a coworker or customer and had an episode as you routinely do on this site and were let go.
Moving on and backing up at the same time you are certainly a liar as when you mentioned that you were accepted by Swift you were thrilled. Here is your comment. Charles
Phenix City, Alabama
U.S.A Submitted: 10/14/2006 6:50:52 PM I, just got accepted into swift training school so I don't need schneider anymore If I had applied with swift from the beginning, I would not had to deal with all this. I, don't know what the problem was with schneider but swift accepted me even with my lack of work history, I am glad swift accepted me I will work hard not to let them down!
I, am excited they have accepted me I have their prehire letter with me, I don't care about schneider they will not have to worry about me again!. I, have found someone who accepted me & is willing to train me this is my first job I had ever had, I will be able to handle the job.
So either you lied about having the job at the grocery store or you lied about the acceptance to Swift driving school. For all we know you are lying about both. It's been 17 month since you supposedly started truck driving school.. You mention in your most recent comment 3/1/08 http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/220/RipOff0220334.htm that you found an other company to accept you. Why don't you mention anything about working for them.. As a matter of fact you mention in Mypies thread that you were accepted and turned them down as you had proven your point.. If trucking is your dream why would you do that?
#124 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, March 22, 2008
POSTED: Saturday, March 22, 2008
To Friendly Observer. What give's you the right to judge or anyone else about me. You think you are such a expert in grammer & writing skill's you can come to this website & insult people about there spelling.
Also yes there is discrinmantion today people think buy posting lies about me & insulting me will keep me from having a job. I didn't accept the swift job. I have found other companies who offer training but I have to stay with them to 1 to 2 year's.
But once I get a driving job I will not quit. I will work for the same company for more then two year's to prove I will not quit the job. I will not say anything else about this matter on this website again.
I have been insulted many time's about my spelling who are you to judge people friendly observer. Well I really don't care what people think of my spelling or people who read this site, I don't care who believe's me.
Does it make you feel big friendly observer to bash other's about there spelling. Well I will never apply with schneider again. & I do not care what people say. I just wanna move on I have wasted to much of my time on this subject.
So for here on out I am moving on I will not even look @ the report again so people can say whatever they feel like about me I will not respond to them or read what they have to say. I really wish I never said anything I already know my writing isn't perfect.
People do not have the right to continue to insult me about it. People think this website is a good way to embarass & make fun of people.
#125 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, March 22, 2008
POSTED: Saturday, March 22, 2008
To Friendly Observer. What give's you the right to judge or anyone else about me. You think you are such a expert in grammer & writing skill's you can come to this website & insult people about there spelling.
Also yes there is discrinmantion today people think buy posting lies about me & insulting me will keep me from having a job. I didn't accept the swift job. I have found other companies who offer training but I have to stay with them to 1 to 2 year's.
But once I get a driving job I will not quit. I will work for the same company for more then two year's to prove I will not quit the job. I will not say anything else about this matter on this website again.
I have been insulted many time's about my spelling who are you to judge people friendly observer. Well I really don't care what people think of my spelling or people who read this site, I don't care who believe's me.
Does it make you feel big friendly observer to bash other's about there spelling. Well I will never apply with schneider again. & I do not care what people say. I just wanna move on I have wasted to much of my time on this subject.
So for here on out I am moving on I will not even look @ the report again so people can say whatever they feel like about me I will not respond to them or read what they have to say. I really wish I never said anything I already know my writing isn't perfect.
People do not have the right to continue to insult me about it. People think this website is a good way to embarass & make fun of people.
#126 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, March 22, 2008
POSTED: Saturday, March 22, 2008
I don't care anymore. I should have kepted my job @ winn-dixie I was with them for 10 month's almost a year I really didn't think two month's would hurt. I should have kepted it until 04/2006 but I am sure schneider would still not accept me so schneider lied to me when I applied, 03/2004 I can't remember the month which I applied in 2004.
Schneider lied to me saying if i hold a job for 1 year then they would consider me for there trucking school. I should have kepted my job @ winn-dixie but I though @ the time it would help me get accepted but I was wrong.
But I will not apply with them again they lied to me anyway's they where not going to accept me even if I did have 1 year work experince.
#127 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: John - Califon (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, March 22, 2008
POSTED: Saturday, March 22, 2008
and as the Observer pointed out...on this planet a year is 12 months. Not 10.You were rejected for being a reject. Very simple. And I'm still waiting for the proof of your accusations. But I certainly won't hold my breath since you can;t come up ith it.
#128 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, April 03, 2008
POSTED: Thursday, April 03, 2008
I do not care about schneider or what anyone else say's anymore. I could care less who work's for them or who like's them. I really don't care anymore that is how fed up I am with everything.
Yes I was hurt & disappointed @ the time but I don't really care anymore.
#129 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Auburn Guy - Auburn (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, April 03, 2008
POSTED: Thursday, April 03, 2008
Charles, if you don't care, then WHY do you continue with your inane posts ?
#130 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, April 03, 2008
POSTED: Thursday, April 03, 2008
Schneider is a military base trucking company, they only want people who has been in the military & retired working for them. That is discrinmantion.
Someone suggested I join the military & I would have better chance's of being accepted from schneider, they only want military personal.
I am not joining the military just to get a cdl from schneider & having to wait 4 or 5 year's. Screw schneider if that is who they only want working for them then let them have them.
What does being in the military having to do with people want to be truck driver's.
#131 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Auburn Guy - Auburn (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, April 03, 2008
POSTED: Friday, April 04, 2008
Charles, don't worry your head over it. You know as well as I that you can't get into any branch of the military. And if you can't see the advantages of hiring ex-military....well that just says a lot for the state of your own intelligence.
#132 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, April 04, 2008
POSTED: Friday, April 04, 2008
I am not going to argue anymore, I have been called dumb & stupid which I am nither I don't care what these idiot's say. They can call me all the name's they please.
This website was not created to call people name's or to call them dumb & stupid like the many name's people have called me but somehow they are allowed to say those thing's.
I would not join the military anyway. I don't care if people do think I am dumb or stupid, I really don't care anymore that is how fed up I am with it.
#133 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Sugarpie - Sweetwater (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, April 04, 2008
POSTED: Friday, April 04, 2008
Over time, being put down and called names will thicken your skin, and I hope you don't let it get to you. None of these people actually know you, and to tell you the truth, I truly believe most of these habitual commenter's are losers!
They continually go back to putting you down, to make themselves feel better about themselves. I mean, think about it..they actually follow and put down a person's life that they don't even know..How happy can they actually be with their own lives?
You're probably a happier and more productive person than them, and actually it's pretty sad.
#134 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Anthony - Rossville (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, April 08, 2008
POSTED: Tuesday, April 08, 2008
Schneider National Carriers is not a "military trucking company". They hire people from all walks of life, but they are picky about who they hire. They have a right to be picky.
They hire people to be in charge of hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of equipment and cargo, and you cannot trust that to an idiot. There are background requirements for individuals that must be met because the Federal Government requires people to meet those requirements before a company can hire them. And of course, a company has the right to set forth their own set of standards as well, that must be met in order to be considered for the job.
Schneider doesn't like to hire job hoppers. They like to hire people who are stable and who stick out things for long periods of time. Surely you can understand that. Your saying you would not quit is not supported by your past. People that quit jobs routinely are not good candidates for trucking. It's a job that comes with plenty of aggravation and people quit trucking jobs for many reasons. Hiring people from other lines of work who quit all the time, probably are not going to stick out a driving job either for long periods of time, and they put too much money into training drivers to have them quit when it gets difficult or aggravating for them. It's that simple.
Ms. Sugarpie, you really ought to take the time to read some of the finer comments that Charles has left on this site. Your opinion in regard to "habitual commenter's" is yours to hold, and as hypocritical as it was the minute you typed it, because you don't know a thing about the people you sized up and placed into that box of generalization, it doesn't deserve any response.
Personally, I'm about assisting others into making wiser choices when they enter into this industry, but occasionally you simply can see things for what they are, and the better advice is for someone to move on down the road and to forget a job in trucking, because it's not a glamorous job, nor is it for everyone. Charles is one that will probably never find employment within the industry, and for good reason. He's not cut out for it.
Why do I say that? Because all you have to do is to look at how much crap he has spewed for being turned down one time by Schneider National Carriers because he did not have three years in the workforce that could be verified for the purposes of performing a background check.
He has further admitted to being on disability and having suffered mental problems that required medication to control. Now I don't put him down for these things, but this in itself would most likely preclude him from passing a background check and qualifying for a driving position of a large commercial vehicle.
#135 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, May 21, 2008
POSTED: Wednesday, May 21, 2008
I feel like wanting to commit suicide I have nothing to live for everyone wants to bash me & publicly embarass me I have dealt with enough pain & suffering for no reason.
I wake up every morning nothing to look forward to. I am not going to kill myself I just fed up with everything & that is how I feel right know. People update this report saying they are new drivers for schneider.
They do it to try to make me jealous but I don't care anymore. There will be no point in killing myself it will not resolve anything or erase my pain. I guess my life is better of without working for schneider.
One person can be pushed to the edge one to may times, that is how I have been treated. I am just tired of feeling grief.
#136 Employee
AUTHOR: Scott - Coon Rapids (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, June 09, 2008
POSTED: Monday, June 09, 2008
I love it when you guys complain that you were poorly treated with some way out there story. Look I've been with Schneider for 13 years and they have never given me a reason to look elsewhere. Honestly with 15000 company trucks and 3000 IC drivers do you really think they are in the business to play games with you? Look in the mirror maybe you were never cut out for this career to begin with. All these large companies are basically the same. Your tear jerk story is laughable at best. The sad part is that the industry has resorted to hiring people with that juvenile thinking to fill the demand. I've been OTR, a trainer, and now a intermodal local driver. I would love to follow your truck driving career, but sadly there won't be one since every company will do you wrong. It's funny because to check my facts I contacted Kendra Deschane in HR about you. With a little digging she was able to narrow down your city and your name. Your claim is not even remotely close to the truth. Think next time you blast a conmpany on this type of forum that your story will be proof checked and poosibly call you out for the fraud that you are.
#137 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: John - Califon (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, June 09, 2008
POSTED: Monday, June 09, 2008
for doing the research and proving us all correct once again. We must keep exposing these attention whore frauds for what they really are.
#138 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, June 09, 2008
POSTED: Monday, June 09, 2008
I don't care about schneider anymore, so what you or anybody else doesn't scare me. I have moved on I am telling the truth. People can say whatever they feel like about me I have moved on with life.
You must be one of those employees with no troubles & you feel you have the right to make fun of others.
#139 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, June 10, 2008
POSTED: Tuesday, June 10, 2008
The only frauds here is scott who come to this website who defend this scum of a company. When you been treated wrong from a company you have the right to report them to this website.
Of course the company will lie when they have been exposed & have people come to this website to try to scare people. The only frauds here are scott & john, who defend these scum companies & businesses.
#140 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, June 10, 2008
POSTED: Tuesday, June 10, 2008
I think john is need of attention, he calls everyone frauds who writes complaints on this site. Companies don't like being exposed on this site so they try there best in personally attacking us.
What people say doesn't bother me I just laugh @ them it seems he is the attention seeking whore just like with scott. Anyone who would defend such a scum company are delusional.
Well I am not worried I have not lied about my experince of course the company who you report will try to make you out to be the liar to cover up there mistake.
#141 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: John - Califon (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, June 10, 2008
POSTED: Tuesday, June 10, 2008
'update
The only frauds here is scott who come to this website who defend this scum of a company.'
>>How would you know if they are scum or not? YOU never worked for them as you were REJECTED.
'When you been treated wrong from a company you have the right to report them to this website.'
>>But you weren't. You were rightfully REJECTED zand felt the need to file a fraudulent report among the many that you do.
'Of course the company will lie when they have been exposed & have people come to this website to try to scare people.'
>>You have exposed nothing other than your own ignorance to the facts of life.
'The only frauds here are scott & john, who defend these scum companies & businesses.'
>>I defend any company's right to hire and fire whoever can't make the grade such as yourself. Jobs are not a right, they have to be earned. Your consistant lying, racist remarks, and stealing are what prevent you from real employment. You will forever be tied to the bathroom of McDonalds licking the urinals clean.
Submitted: 6/10/2008 9:08:04 AM
Modified: 6/10/2008 11:02:27 AM Charles
Phenix City, Alabama
U.S.A.
'update
I think john is need of attention, he calls everyone frauds who writes complaints on this site.'
>>More lies once again as well as the theft of my lines (as well as our tax money and oxygen) since you can't think for yourself. Please post this proof that I do this about everyone. You can't as you are a liar.
'Companies don't like being exposed on this site so they try there best in personally attacking us.'
>>>What exactly did you 'expose'? The fact that YOU can't make the grade and got REJECTED BEFORE YOU EVEN HAD A JOB? No one is surprised by that one bit.
'What people say doesn't bother me I just laugh @ them it seems he is the attention seeking whore just like with scott.'
>>Another lie as you continually have to respond crying with my lines you stole as always thief.
'Anyone who would defend such a scum company are delusional.'
>>Yes, you are delusional as you have no idea what this company is like because YOU WERE REJECTED EVEN BEFORE YOU COULD GET A JOB.
'Well I am not worried I have not lied about my experince of course the company who you report will try to make you out to be the liar to cover up there mistake.'
>>Yes, you are as it is another of your many, many lies. You had no excperience as you were REJECTED before you could get to experience anything. Do you really think you are a truck driver just because you walked past their property?
#142 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Anonymous - Anonymous (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, June 11, 2008
POSTED: Wednesday, June 11, 2008
Please tell me john how am I stealling your lines I would like to know. All you do is cause trouble I have not stolen your lines another one of your many lies. You are the one who is harassing me.
You the theif john I have not stolen your lines schneider can piss off, it seems like you are the attention seeking whore john. I am asking you again please stop posting to me I have not done anything to you.
You are the one who defends these scum businesses, I have nothing futher to say to you john.
#143 Ex-Employee
AUTHOR: Douglas D Rogers - St. Joseph (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, July 06, 2008
POSTED: Sunday, July 06, 2008
I finished the acadamy and drove for Schneider for 7 months.
Before I agreed to go to the training acadamy in greenbay I asked for a written
document stating the miles I would drive on a weekly basis.
I got the letter on a Schneider letterhead assuring me that I would average 2500 miles per week.
Only 2 times did I drive 2500 miles for this company.
After 7 months this Schneider shorted me over $6000.00 due to miles paid per work assignment.
I have no intention of paying this company for the balance owed since we have a breach of contract on their part.
Now, If they send me the $6000.00 I'll be happy to pay the balance they say I owe.
SO SCHNEIDER, IT'S UP TO YOU. PAY ME AND I'LL PAY YOU.
Make sure all of you get anything a recruiter says in writing on a Schneider letterhead. This will make it a binding contract.
Seems our friends at schneider needs to understand that a contract is a 2 way street.
I would still be driving for them if they had not lied to me.
Be very carefull people!!!!
#144 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: John - Califon (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, July 07, 2008
POSTED: Monday, July 07, 2008
Please keep them coming charles as I have caught you once again in a lie. And I have proven with your own words how you steal from others.
'You are the one who defends these scum businesses, I have nothing futher to say to you john.'
Why do you hide under numerous, fraudulent usernames on this site? Do you really think people can't figure out who you re in your retarded, fraudulent rants? Oh, amnd I am still waiting for the proof that I defend bad business......it's only been a couple months now and you still can't prove it.
#145 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - Phenix City (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, July 07, 2008
POSTED: Monday, July 07, 2008
John strikes again. Let me point out to people I have not called john any names & you say all the name calling he has done to me. Please john continue with your slanderous comments about me.
Your attempt to ruin me as long with everyone else has failed I have asked you to quit posting to me this is consider harassment I know nothing you say is true about me.
You just decided to join the crowd when everyone else was saying slanderous comments about me the only person who is lying john is you. You do not know me & I do not know you.
I am not afraid with anything you have to say about me john I know the truth & that is all that matters. You might bully other consumers on this site but I do not have to put up with it.
Because I know the truth & that Is all that matters. I have nothing futher to say to you so feel free to post all the slanderous comments about me as you please.
This comment is to everyone else I do not know who this person john is, he harasses daily & bullies me he doesn't know me & I do not know him. He just bullies & picks on people on this site.
He says everyone lies when they file complaints well how does he know he does not know mine or there situation.
#146 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: John - Califon (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, July 07, 2008
POSTED: Monday, July 07, 2008
You just keep on babbling and giving me more ammo.
'John strikes again'
--Yes, once AGAIN I get to expose your fraud.
'John strikes again.'
--OK, you already wrote this once. Did you forget what you wrote in 2 seconds?
'Let me point out to people I have not called john any names & you say all the name calling he has done to me.'
--PLEASE POINT THIS STUFF OUT AS I HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR MONTYHS FOR YOU TO POST THESE ACCUSATIONS AND YET YOU CAN'T.
'Please john continue with your slanderous comments about me.'
--Once I start, I may think about it. Why are you stealing my lines again? I am posting the truth WITH proof - something you can not do. So, posting the truth is not slander.
'Your attempt to ruin me as long with everyone else has failed I have asked you to quit posting to me this is consider harassment I know nothing you say is true about me.'
--What was this babble? You ruin yourself with your babble accusations and then when someone requests the proof, you can not provide it as always. I have the right to point this out to the reading public.
'You just decided to join the crowd when everyone else was saying slanderous comments about me the only person who is lying john is you.'
--What? Other, far more intelligent people have proven to you that YOU ARE WRONG but you can't take that and have to start crying as always.
'You do not know me & I do not know you.'
--I know all about your fraud as it's posted all over for all to see as you have been proven wrong and a liar time and time again.
'I am not afraid with anything you have to say about me john I know the truth & that is all that matters.'
--If you actually know the truth, when are you going to decide to post it?
'You might bully other consumers on this site but I do not have to put up with it.'
--Once AGAIN, POST PROOF PLEASE! You can't as this is yet another lie. Seriously, you have some real mental issues. How hard is it to prove something that you said if it is really true? I do it to you all the time.
'Because I know the truth & that Is all that matters.'
--Again, you just posted this. Why the need to post it 2 seconds later? Did you forget already or do you realize you really have nothing to post as always and need to fill space with bullshit like you always do?
'I have nothing futher to say to you so feel free to post all the slanderous comments about me as you please.'
--This is another lie as you most certainly WILL post to me again with your crying babble and posting absolutely NO proof of your accusations. I can't wait to start posting slanderous comments but I don't have to when the truth is so much more interesting.
'This comment is to everyone else I do not know who this person john is, he harasses daily & bullies me he doesn't know me & I do not know him.'
--Don't like being exposed, then go away like you promised in your fraudulent schneider complaint.
'He just bullies & picks on people on this site.'
--PLEASE POST PROOF OF THIS. I HAVE ASKED MANY, MANY TIMES AND AM STILL WAITING FOR IT. Or, just get it over with and admit you are a liar.
'He says everyone lies when they file complaints well how does he know he does not know mine or there situation.'
--PLEASE POST PROOF OF THIS. I HAVE ASKED MANY, MANY TIMES AND AM STILL WAITING FOR IT. Or, just get it over with and admit you are a liar.
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