#1 Consumer Suggestion
AUTHOR: Bambi - New York (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, June 22, 2007
POSTED: Saturday, June 23, 2007
Hi Eric,
Your experience certainly sucks. I've actually bought and used another one of their products (Juliet's Clean & Smooth scrub) and really like it. This led me to order one of their moisturizers, which I did not particularly care for. So I tried contacting them to find out how to return it - and just like you got NO response. Very frustrating.
I don't remember how (I think I looked up their website registration info) but somehow I managed to find a personal email address of one of the company workers (owners?). When I contacted him, I got an immediate response. He was very apologetic, said they never received any of my other emails.
I'm not sure if there is a glitsch in their email or eBay's messaging system, but long story short: I got my refund, no problem.
The guy I contacted is Dallin Bruun, and his email is: dallin@liporexin.com
I later also had contact with an Ashley Richins: ashleyrichins@gmail.com
Finally, I also found the following info on a dieting message board (posted by Anonymous). Hope this helps!!!
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There seems to be plenty of confusion about the product Liporexin. Many folks here seem to think that it is Lipovarin or Lipovectin. It is not. Liporexin is sold only on eBay through 4 different stores that I believe represent a single company.
A detailed search on eBay yields the following:
Store, User, Contact , Established
We Love Meg Whitman, Fibersyn, Garrett DeVore, 7-21-2000
Thank You Ashley, ShaneRichins1031, Shane Richins, 8-16-2002
The Fortune Cookie, Intelislim, Dallin Bruun, 6-4-2003
Thank You Sarah, Sarmury, Sarah Campbell, 1-05-2005
Garrett DeVore, 1627 Mountain Oaks Dr., Orem, UT 84097
payments@liporexin.com (801) 426-9984
Shane Richins, 2159 E Hawthorne St., Saratoga Springs, UT, 84043
ashqs@liporexin.com or shanerichins1031@yahoo.com (801) 766-2086
Dallin Bruun, 86 W 1565 N, Orem, UT 84057
dallin@liporexin.com or payments@liporexin.com (no phone listed)
Sarah Campbell, 368 Wymount Terrace Bld #6c, Provo, UT 84604
sarahmury@hotmail.com (no phone listed)
Other Info:
liporexin.com pulls its webpage content from Fibersyn's eBay store, Thank You Meg Whitman (n.b.-Meg Whitman is the CEO of eBay).
badbusinessbureau.com/view.asp?id=146848&view=printer:
A complaint against Garrett Devore is answered by an "Ashley" from customer service with the same email address as is listed above for Shane Richins. "Ashley" lists her location as Saratoga Springs. An "Ashley Richins" is shown at the same address at Shane.
According to the Utah County Property Records database, there is no address "1627 Mountain Oaks Dr., Orem UT 84097". However, there is are two parcels in that location that are owned by a Greggory Devore. There is a "Steve Devroe" listed in the local phone book (801) 426-9960 at that address.
liporexin.com is registered to Garrett Devore Labs, 1627 Mountain Oaks Dr., Orem UT 84097, fibersyn@yahoo.com
Garrett Devore Labs, a DBA of Garrett Devore, was cancelled on 8-14-2003 when Garrett Devore Labs, Inc. was registered. That business name registration is on "expired" status as of 8-14-2004 as a result of "Failure to File Renewal". Both show the 1627 Mountain Oaks Drive address.
None of the labels shown on the eBay listings that I saw show a company name or copyright info.
All four individuals live within 15 miles of each other. All four eBay stores use the same template.
I noted that a guest posted in this thread using the name "Shane Richins" and another with "Thank You Ashley."
Conclusion:
I believe that these four eBay stores are in fact one company that has diversified their marketing efforts so as to add to their credibility as a seller of exclusive products that have names that sound close to better-known more expensive products and in order to sell more of their products.
I have no knowledge one way or another about the efficacy of the product Liporexin or other products that are sold by these four eBay stores. I felt it was important to share the information that I found while researching these entities.
#2 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Lw - Richmond (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, February 16, 2008
POSTED: Saturday, February 16, 2008
I have a product return that has gone not refunded as well. I have tried to contact a Sarah DeVore and her eBay store states returns should go to 1957 W 2615 S Cir, Syracuse, Utah 84075, which googles as a fairly new and extremely nice housing development.
I have emailed her eBay address 4 times, then got her contact info and called but got a answering machine that stated they return the call prompty. That was 2/4/2008 and still no return call. I have contacted eBay multiple times and PayPal once on this. I have disputed with the credit card company as they left no alternatives. I have then emailed this seller 3 more times and still no response. Then I emailed a company address sarah@liporexin.com AND customerservice@dietpilldiscounts.com that appears on the PayPal receipt. Her eBay address us sarmury@liporexin.com.
I will try the contacts above in Bambi's info and if nothing occurs I am filing a complaint to ICS.GOV as potential internet fraud being committed.
This particular seller also contacted me through eBay at Christmas time wanting me to mutually agree to change my negative feedback to positive feedback. I left neutral feedback, there was nothing negative about the comment. She ended saying, I hope you got a quick refund. To which I replied, not yet, I haven't sent the package as yet but will be in the next week or two.
I see several other reports on Rip Off about these people.