Personnel Concepts
2865 Metropolitan Place
Pomona California 91767
U.S.A.
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Personnel Concepts, PCI - Compliance Service Department Fraudulent letters stating that a business will be find by the U.S. Government for not complying with labor law posters. Pomona California
*Consumer Comment: Harassing Letters - They Lie and Won't Remove You!
1Author
3Consumer
3Employee/Owner
I received a notices stating LAST NOTICE - You must comply with the new 2006 Compliance requirements. Failure to do so may lead to government finds of up to $17,000.00 and/or employee lawsuits/audits for non-compliance. I have received several of these in the past. This company is selling U.S. Compliance posters, however, their notices lead you to believe that if you do not buy their product, your business will be fined and/or sued by employees.
Michele
Studio City, California
U.S.A.
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REBUTTALS & REPLIES:
1Author
3Consumer
3Employee/Owner
Updates & Rebuttals
#1 Employee
AUTHOR: Ben - Pomona (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, May 05, 2008
POSTED: Monday, May 05, 2008
Our business nor our services and products are fruadulent. In fact, all of our products are attorney reviewed and the text of the laws are quoted directly from the laws upheld by the Department of Labor. Employers in all states are required to post their state and federal labor laws when they have employees on payroll. Busniesses are not required to purchase these materials from our company but they must obtain them from somewhere. We simply offer all of the required notices/laws in a convenient patented All-on-one Space Saver poster. We also offer a notification service that advises employers of mandatory posting revisions/requirements.
For more information please visit our web site: www.PersonnelConcepts.com
#2 Employee
AUTHOR: Ben - Pomona (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, May 05, 2008
POSTED: Monday, May 05, 2008
Our business nor our services and products are fruadulent. In fact, all of our products are attorney reviewed and the text of the laws are quoted directly from the laws upheld by the Department of Labor. Employers in all states are required to post their state and federal labor laws when they have employees on payroll. Busniesses are not required to purchase these materials from our company but they must obtain them from somewhere. We simply offer all of the required notices/laws in a convenient patented All-on-one Space Saver poster. We also offer a notification service that advises employers of mandatory posting revisions/requirements.
For more information please visit our web site: www.PersonnelConcepts.com
For questions regarding the legality of our materials please contact us at research@personnelconcepts.com
#3 Consumer Suggestion
AUTHOR: S.n. - Bucyrus (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, May 05, 2008
POSTED: Monday, May 05, 2008
The posters you are selling are free from the government agencies involved. Some can be printed directly from the agency website and others must be ordered by phone or mail, but they are free. If you aren't certain which posters your business requires, contact OSHA, the Department of Labor, etc., Federal and State level.
#4 Employee
AUTHOR: Employee - Ontario (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, February 26, 2009
POSTED: Monday, October 05, 2009
Personnel Concepts has always informed consumers the posters they advertise are available from the government for free. If one chooses, they may read only one side of the mailer received, but it's recommended they read both sides. On the back side of every mailer titled FINAL NOTICE (and several other titles) on the front side, there are nine benefits of the labor law posters Personnel Concepts provides. Below that section a disclaimer is provided:
"AIO Acquistion, Inc. (dba Personnel Concepts) is a non-government compliance firm and a wholly owned subsidiary of AIO Holding Inc.
Our All-On-One compliance systems, Membership Subscription Service, and Space Saver All-On-One posters are copyrighted material. Notices are available free from the government; we do not sell or provide individual government posters...."
The message conveyed by these mailings informs a consumer if they are not posting all of the state, federal, and osha posters, SPECIFIC as to the needs of their business then they can be subject to those fines and lawsuits.
Personnel Concepts offers a product and a service. While most consumers feel they are in compliance with their state's laws and osha requirements several are not. Instead of spending lots of time contacting every agency, and speaking to someone at that agency who is not trained in your company's specific needs, Personnel Concepts provides you this research in a quick, time saving format. In addition, as mandatory changes occur, Personnel Concepts will contact your business year around, whereas government agencies will not. It is the responsibility of the business to be in compliance, and the government will not do your work.
Personnel Concepts does not advertise non-mandatory government compliance changes or requirements. We advertise only mandatory compliance changes or products that offer solutions or tools that will aid a business in meeting compliance needs as written and required in law.
If a consumer wishes not to receive mail or any advertisement from Personnel Concepts they should contact us directly at 800-333-3795, select option 2 and inform a customer service representative.
#5 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: NoBS - Ogden (USA)
SUBMITTED: Monday, October 05, 2009
POSTED: Monday, October 05, 2009
How about this?
"If one chooses, they may read only one side of the mailer received, but
it's recommended they read both sides. On the back side of every mailer
titled FINAL NOTICE (and several other titles)"
That's funny I am looking at yet another update notice from Personnel Concepts and guess what? Strange, I see only a blank page on the back, and no mention that these materials are available online from each of the specific agency's. They are trying to sell information that is available for free, with a little research. If they were confident in there products they would tell you that.
If they simply supplied these free materials condensed into one or two posters that would be great. I would continue to be a customer. However they use scare tactics and very a questionable "marketing" strategy.
Any company that has to resort to threats to sell a product($17000 fine or else, final notice or the compliance police will come calling, or send mailers that intend to make you think that it is an official document that must be paid or else), in my opinion can not be trusted, or supported.
They may or may not have a good product but they have lost me as a customer with this sleazy low life marketing. If they indeed have such valuable products and services they would never need to stoop to such practices as other schemers on the Internet. Just makes you question if they are trustworthy or not, I say not.
Once they loose enough customers they will change the deceptive marketing strategy that they currently employ.
I don't care how long it takes me to research these materials, I will NEVER do business with this company again while they employ these tactics. I tell everyone I know to avoid Personnel Concepts like the plague for the reasons stated above.
When they change, I will update my opinion, until then, no money or positive review for them!
#6 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: JBaba123 - Cutler Bay (USA)
SUBMITTED: Friday, February 03, 2012
POSTED: Friday, February 03, 2012
I have called Personal Concepts on 5 occasions in the last 3 years (all documented). I have repeatedly asked nicely to have my "CLOSED" company name removed from their "Threatening" and "Mis-leading" mailers. Each time I called I CLEARLY told them my company is CLOSED and is NO LONGER in business, they tell me they will remove me from their database and the ask me to wait 6 to 8 weeks (2 months) for the mailers to stop harassing me.
I don't understand why they lie to me and tell me they will remove me when in fact they NEVER remove me. It is 3 YEARS now since my company closed and for 3 years now that I have asked them to stop sending me these annoying notices but yet they keep coming. 5 months ago I spoke to "Carl" and he SWORE to me that I would be removed and I would never get another letter from them AFTER 8 weeks.... I waited the 8 weeks and the mailers just kept coming.. I have a pile of them here.
Today I spoke to a "Luis" and he also told me that it would stop and he continued to explain to me that they made database changes about 5 months ago and that is why I am still on their list. He also explained to me that he sees 2 accounts for me in their system. Little did he know that I have a recorded conversation from "Carl" 5 months ago telling me the EXACT same thing about 2 accounts. So it seems to me that this is their story they use. I also informed "Luis" that I was also recording the conversation as well.
I have decided to wait the 6 to 8 weeks once again, but this time I just called my attorney and asked him to send them a strong letter letting them know I am going to sue them for Harassment if I receive one more mailer after April 1st, 2012. My lawyer told me that if they continue it "could" be considered a federal offense because they are using US MAIL (government mail box) to harass me.
I would STRONGLY suggest you use another company because these guys will NEVER let your name out of their system. AND reading the posts above, you CAN get the Notices for FREE so there is no point even getting involved with these guys at all.
If you really want to pay for something you can get for free... just call me.. I'm selling AIR real cheap !