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Complaint Review: St. Judes Retreat House

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  • Submitted: Thursday, December 03, 2009
  • Last Posting: Wednesday, December 30, 2009
  • Reported By: Stan G. — Colorado United States of America
St. Judes Retreat House
9 Market Street Amsterdam New York United States of America

St. Judes Retreat House NOT WORTH THE MONEY FALSE ADVERTISING Amsterdam, New York

*Consumer Comment: Addictions take time.


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I did A LOT of homework on the web before I decided to send my wife to St. Jude's retreat house in upstate NY. I did read the other ripoff report on here about this place but did not blame the facility for the patient's choice to relapse. Some people just aren't ready.

The truth is, this place is a joke. It is a co-ed facility no different than MTV's "The Real World" (90%  males from ages 18-60). The main house is MAYBE half the size of what it looks like in the picture. Guys sleep 6 to a room on bunk beds and girls sleep 4 to a room on bunk beds. When my wife started there were 18 people crammed into that tiny little house. Most of them going through disgusting withdraws in the bed above you as you try to sleep....coughing and vomiting all night. You would think for $10,000 per person they would make it a little more comfortable.

Our biggest problem with this place (besides how uncomfortable she felt with ALL of the instructors [married] hitting on her constantly) is that they FALSELY ADVERTISE thier success rates on the web. During her 6 week stay, 9 people 'graduated' and left the house whom she kept and still keeps in close contact with. Out of those 9 graduates, 6 of them starting using drugs again as soon as they left!!

I was not the one in the program so I can not and WILL NOT blame St. Judes for these people's relapsing...but they should really stop fudging the numbers to bring in more new business. Enron tried that and look where it got them.


As for my wife, she flew back home last week but still has the same cravings/depression as when she first went, although she IS NOT using. I think the thought of her having to go back to that moneypit is what is keeping her sober. I guess thats the only good thing that resulted from St. Judes in upstate NY.

To anyone reading this please spend your money elsewhere. Their no-pressure classroom setting is not the right environment (statistically proven in my earlier paragraph) for a struggling addict.

Best of luck to you and your families.

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#1 Consumer Comment

What did you expect?

AUTHOR: Inspector - Tobyhanna (USA)

SUBMITTED: Friday, December 04, 2009

$10,000 may seem a lot of money to most but, it is not considering the cost of treating these diseases.  Did you expect a resort hotel retreat?  Do you really think it matters how the conditions are?  It's either that or the gutter or dead, which is where most drug abusers end up.  Might as well get used to it.

All of these programs must overestimate their success rates.  The truth is the success rates in all programs, no matter what you paid for it, is lousey.  That is because of the adict, not the program.  Some get the message early and some late, some never.  The former are the strongest of the bunch and it is that strength that saves them, not the program.  The latter are the unfortunate ones and were destined to fail when they entered the program.  If you cannot tolerate the conditions of the hospice then, maybe your not strong enough to fight off the adiction.

If I found myself with this disease, I would do anything to control it.

Happy to hear she is not using, see it was worth the $10,000.  If her success continues then it saved her life.


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St. Jude's retreat house in NY is a SCAM

AUTHOR: stang976 - (United States of America)

SUBMITTED: Friday, December 04, 2009

I hope that last response from 'Inspector' was a joke.

"All of these programs must overestimate their success rates". Are you kidding me!?!

That is the most ignorant, unethical thing I have ever heard. You should be ashamed of yourself. Why don't I just over-estimate my companies success (quarterly earnings) and see how fast they throw me in prison. If you have to trick people into doing business, then you shouldn't be in business in the first place!

"Do you really think it matters how the conditions are".    Yes absolutely I do. It was a toss-up between St. Judes and a respectable retreat house in California that my doctor recommended. I weighed my decision on what I now find out were lies: their success rate and comfortable environment.

Thank you for the support of my wife's success, but please don't tell me what we lived through. This place is a madhouse for kids to come and play, not learn. I wanted to write a great review about this facility, trust me I did... but every visit was a nightmare.

-Stan

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