lifespiritssocietyofmagick.com/ Robin Bird Robin Bird scam me, make me pay and never cast the spell Internet

 I was conned, scammed, ripped off by this piece of crap woman for $150.00. Not a lot of money...but to some it can be a lot. All fo the riop off stories I read here about this website I thoroughly believe. It's my own fault that I ACTUALLY THOUGHT THERE WAS A "MAGICAL" way out of my situation. My own fault that I actually thought that someone could cast a spell and change the course of my life. LOL...I was definitely in dire straights when I paid the money. It is said that desperate time call for desperate measures. But desperate measures do not include believing in fairy tales and throwinfg my hard earned cash at some thieving piece of doo doo.

If you want to join our lawsuit against this person...

(((REDACTED))) you're welcome to give your info about being ripped off by this jag off. If our lawyer likes your story, he'll contact you. If enough people join in, it'll be a class action suit.

One thing to remember...just because there is a disclaimer does not mean the person has a right to commit fraud. One cannot use a legal disclaimer to scam others out of money. Also, don't feel stupid that you were scammed. A lot of us were scammed by this group of thieves. We're going after them. Join us. it will take a little time, but we'll shut her/him down.

I purchased some "spells" on eBay from user ID hansel_and_gretal (search eBay for 260757741519 to view one). The auction promised complete satisfaction or the "coven" would re-cast/refund. PayPal payment went to "Audra English" at ilovehanselandgretal@yahoo.com. Emails came from "Robin Bird" at robinwitchywoman@yahoo.com. Long story short, my situation did not improve (it actually got much worse). It'd take numerous emails before I'd get a response. She claimed to re-cast, but still no improvement. Then I was ignored some more. Finally she claimed she had an email issue & her new email was robinlifespirits@gmail.com. Again the email responses eventually disappeared. She finally offered a refund. Weeks passed with nothing, so I emailed to inquire. She claimed she needed the "amulets" back (two glass fishtank stones) she sent me back, which I thew out (they were worthless). She claimed that she couldn't refund without approval from someone else in her "coven" named "Myles Knoll" & she'd get back to me. Surprise surprise, no response! I found her web site www.lifespiritssocietyofmagick.com which had yet a fourth different email generalquestions@lifespiritssocietyofmagick.com. No response there. WhoIs says the web site is registered to Audra English, 349 Quarter Ave., Buda, TX 78610-4957 (512) 523-0249 & White Pages confirms this. I emailed her one last time & gave her a deadline - a refund in the next two weeks or I would go to Texas & file in small claims court. I got an email response almost immediately in which more excuses followed. She claimed that "Myles Knoll" still had to approve the refund. Excuses excuses.

 UPDATE: I did get a full refund less than 24 hours later from her original supposedly non-working email (robinwitchywoman@yahoo.com) with the name "Myles Knoll" on the PayPal account. BUYER BEWARE!!! Check out Ripoff Report - Audra/Robin/Myles/etc. have a long list of complaints. If you too have been scammed, do the following: file a police report; file a report with the Attorney General in Texas; if you paid by credit/debit card, contact your bank/creditor to see if you can reverse charges; contact eBay/PayPal if you won an eBay auction, even if it was a long time ago; post updates on sites like Ripoff Report so others know about the scam and how you resolved it - if you resolved it.

Maya,

Do not let this get you down anymore. This has absolutely shown her true nature to anyone that would have considered her and does their homework. The truth about her is now for all to see and anyone that still goes to her after all of this will figure out her game much faster. They will believe her false hopes and waste their money but it will sink in pretty fast when they have been on that forum for a few months and they see the same posters posting the same signs waiting for the same results that never happen. Those handful of forum regulars will still be buying spells every week and insisting to each other not to give up hope, trust Robin, use the law of attraction day in day out week in week out ad nauseum.

It does not take long to see that the regulars on that forum have so much invested, both emotionally and financially that they cannot allow their own intuition and common sense to guide them. It is these people that Robin/Audra counts on for constant cash flow and to recruit and convince others to buy more spells. It is so cult-like it is scary. As long as she can convince them that every damned thing is a 'sigh,' then she is getting them movement.

All everyone can do is contact paypal and ask for their money back. Even if they do not get it, paypal will flag her account. Enough complaints and they will shut her down. I really hope you use that link to file the claim with the FBI. She claimed that you sent her a computer to spy on her and ruin her business. She is really nutso Maya, and that can be used against her as it is false allegations towards you. She also claims that you faked your paypal receipts with photoshop. She has thrown completely wild and ridiculous claims out publicly in an effort to save her own butt. Yet she has not posted one shred of proof about her claims against you.

Screen shot everything she has written about you and be sure to submit it all. On one hand she sits and bashes you for being stupid and obsessive with no sense to stop buying spells and yet she gives you huge amounts of credit to go out and buy a computer, load it with stuff to steal all her information for you to all of a sudden come out of nowhere? That is so beyond ludicrous it is bordering on insane. She also has bashed Karyn saying she has no idea who she is or where she came from and that she must be competition as well. REALLY??? That I find to be the real key to the truth about her because she knows that Karyn and LGO have been recommending her for months! Many people would never have found he without them. This is why Karyn is so intent on helping you and others now. She feels in some strange way responsible for the sociopathic behavior that is Robin/Audra. Karyn is another victim in this as well because she is being bashed for just wanting the TRUTH to be out there!

Go to Robon/Audra's  blog and get this before she takes it down. She claims that things were 'hacked' to get all this information, she is so intent on trying to make herself look like the victim that she does not understand that everything revealed about her is public knowledge. No one has to hack anything to get all the information that has come out. Her ego is so massive that she cannot understand that there are people out in the world smarter than herself. She thinks everyone will just eat up her words and continue to worship her as the final word on everything.

Oh and again Maya, if you think there are loads of people on her side, read how many responses she has to all her BS. I believe 4 or 5 people have sent her words of devotion. That is a far cry from the THOUSANDS of people she says she has helped and stand behind her. Far far more people know you are the one telling the truth here so do not feel as if you are being judged and ganged up on by lots of strangers.

She also slipped up yet again with her latest blog by admitting that it is not magic that works at all but the law of attraction. She claims her magic will work with everyone yet if it does not, then it is the clients fault because they did not practice it hard enough?  Talk about covering all her bases and the perfect con!

Don't give her the satisfaction of knowing that this still hurts you Maya. Just file that claim. I am 100% sure there will be many others that will be filing against her as well to get their money back. Paypal does not tolerate this at all.

I think that by filing with the authorities here you will finally get some closure. No matter what your personal situation Maya, she was supposed to be the 'professional' and be the bigger person. She is PAID MONEY to be that. No matter how she tries to justify her behavior, there is just no justification of sharing your personal matters with her public forum. End of story.

Continu to post private information, you think you are Smart ?

Your people post on Topix and other forum with my name and Id, you think that is legal ?

You must think about jetlag cause some things can't be possible. And also I work and have my money of my work not from deperation.

You claim me crazy to have bought your spell, did you erase from your memory that you told me that I need those spells ? Do you have a illness that make you like that ?

You made a fake mediator with I think the hope that I will stop, but I won't.

Your ebay feedback is what ? People wrote to have a good contact, this is always like that in the beginning but after ?

Stop talking about god, because you will never be in Heaven and you know that, someone like you can't go to heaven. Racist and anti homo, you think to be a good girl ?

You claim to be sooo good, but why no one can't see you face to face ? You only sell spells online...

You claim now, that I'm crazy for buy too much spells, but you take my money easily...

You think you can't always have something to say ? So prepare yourself Audra English cause your website who bring all my personnal data have a claim deposit.

I don't care about what you say, or what you have to say, YOU are not a nice person, and you lie and claim to make miracle. You are not god.

You insult people and after you tell to other that you are a victime.

You talk about god, but you tell to people to go kill themself.

You don't refund my money, but the justice will make you pay for all what you made to me.

What you made to me, help some people to see your real face, and a lot of people notice that they are in the same situation.

I hope that it will help some people.

Your punishment will come with the time, but it will for sure.

People of Robin's website who are reading, read all and think and watch who are really behind "Martins" and other comments...

Martin-Please quit. My beef was never with you. Maya was not the one posting as Elierena, or however it's spelled. That clearly was "Robin's" people. Yes, I still support her in the most unkind way she has been treated. I hope you get your desires, but you are not understanding. Many people have been hurt by "Robin."

As for eBay I give all plusses too and most do, the problem is by the time spells have time to manifest or in this case fail it is too late to make a rivision. If one bought a wrinkle cream and it does not work the money is refunded, as is with most things. It's the weekend so get out, have fun, enjoy! I plan to.
This is not getting anywhere. Let's all stop, please.

Maya Maya Maya, Still with the lies?

Or should I call you Elerinna (the detective from Chicago and the root worker from Arizona), I mean Nora(d**n your name is getting long with all your identities)...

You outed yourself on Topix...No one is going to believe you if you can not keep your story straight...

KARYN are you ok with her being the detective, a root worker, and play the victim too?

Wow you found a couple of disgruntled customers on ebay out of 2,700 with a 99.9% rating...not a good point.

Anyway Here is something you might enjoy and laugh at :)


Really Good Deed

This guy arrives at the Pearly Gates. He has to wait to be admitted, while St. Pete leafs through his Big Book.

He's checking to see if the guy is worthy of entry or not. Saint Peter goes through the books several times, furrows his brow, and says to the guy, "You know, I can't see that you did lots of good in your life but, you never did anything bad either. Tell you what, if you can tell me of one REALLY good deed that you did in your life, you're in."The guy thinks for a moment and says, "Well, there was this one time when I was drivin' down the highway and I saw a Biker Gang assaulting this poor girl. I slowed down my car to see what was going on, and sure enough, that's what they were doing. There were about 50 of 'em torturing this chick.

 Infuriated, I got out my car, grabbed a tire iron from my trunk and walked straight up to the leader of the gang. He was a huge guy with a studded leather jacket and a chain running from his nose to his ear. As I walked up to the leader, the Gang formed a circle all around me. So I ripped the leader's chain off his face and smashed him over the
 head with the tire iron. Then I turned around and yelled to the rest of them, 'Leave this poor, innocent girl alone, you slime! You're all a bunch of sick, deranged animals! Go home before I teach you all a lesson in pain!'"

 St. Peter, extremely impressed, says, "Really? Wow, when did all this happen?"

"Er.. about two minutes ago."

 Another good  one....

Smartest Man in the World
 A doctor, a lawyer, a little boy and a priest were out for a Sunday afternoon flight on a small private plane. Suddenly, the plane developed engine trouble. In spite of the best efforts of the pilot, the plane started to go down.
 Finally, the pilot grabbed a parachute, yelled to the passengers that they had better jump, and bailed out. Unfortunately, there were only three parachutes remaining.
The doctor grabbed one and said "I'm a doctor, I save lives, so I must live," and jumped out.
The lawyer then said, "I'm a lawyer and lawyers are the smartest people in the world. I deserve to live."
He also grabbed a parachute and jumped.
The priest looked at the little boy and said, "My son, I've lived a long and full life. You are young and have your whole life ahead of you. Take the last parachute and live in peace."
The little boy handed the parachute back to the priest and said, "Not to worry, Father. The 'smartest man in the world' just took off with my  back pack."

I am really glad you brought that up too Maya. It makes me wonder about your mind even more.
I have spent about 40$ on spells, which I am waiting to see results on, before I purchase any more.. If you had no results from any of the many, many spells you bought over the course of 7 months...why would you keep doing it? And at the end of the 7 months buy her a computer, if she was so horrible and you were getting NO results. That is one reason why people say you are crazy Maya. Not because it didn't work, but because the very definition of insanity, is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results...when clearly it was NOT working for you, for whatever reason.

Robin never claims her spells will work for everyone. Which is why it would seem sensible to not keep buying them if you are getting no results. Especially because if you do not get results, within 3 months, she will cast the spells AGAIN for you for FREE. I also hope everyone checks the Ebay links Maya posted. I had never been to Robin's ebay page before :) however, I see she has a 99.9% positive feedback ratio.
She has 1 negative feedback in the past 12 months. To me, that doesn't look like a scam :)

I'm not going to bother to post anymore here, I think anyone who actually investigates will see a different side to this than Maya and her "supporters" are trying to convince you of. Please DO visit Robin's Ebay feedback page. Visit her website as well, read some of the articles, read her faqs page, find out your own opinion by looking at the whole picture. It really isn't a business owners job to protect clients against his/her OWN bad judgement. People who cannot take responsibility for themselves are a danger to themselves and others. I am sorry you did not exhibit self control, patience, or sound judgement when making purchases online Maya.

If someone was buying an anti wrinkle cream, that didn't work, yet kept buying it over and over again, only to suddenly say "I bought 50 bottles of this over the past 7 months and it didn't work at all...maybe I will buy the CEO a computer", and then start a campaign to destroy the company's reputation because the customer acted in a way that was contrary to common sense... how many companies do you think would refund under those circumstances? Would anyone here really expect the company not to look at you as tho you were mentally unstable? NOBODY can 100% guarantee "magic" will work for everyone, I have never seen Robin make that assertion.

The holy waters of Lourdes blessed by the Virgin Mary herself do not heal the overwhelming majority of people who go there for a cure. I suppose for a few who have strong faith, it works, but the Catholic church has recognized less than 100 miracle cures since the spring in the grotto first appeared. And MILLIONS have gone there for cures. Perhaps you can start a campaign against them next? Their success rate is waaaaaaay lower than Robins, and all these cute little bottles of water are being sold all over the world....buy a hundred of them Maya :)

For anyone who is interested in the truth, I encourage you to investigate on your own. The ability to do that, shows higher brain function. No one is forced to buy spells, anti-wrinkle cream, or bottles of holy water. Robin didn't break into your pay-pal account and steal your money Maya, nor did she ASK you to send her a computer. Hopefully you will seek help for your compulsions. As for me, I'm going to continue to give and get support from a wonderful community of positive, friendly, reasonable people working together for common goals. Have a wonderful and blessed day!
-Hopefulskies

Thank you for this link, we have the same organization in France but they only remove the website from search engine when the website is on an other place than france.

With you link I can finally send to the autority all paypal pieces, emails, and all her claim online with my name. She give my name to everyone wich is a violation.

I don't care if they are laughing about my english, I'm french, and I'm learning english, german and spanish... so sorry to don't be good but its not easy...

If people think that she is the one suffering because of loosing custumers and money, they are all blind...

Just please stop making threats and read what she said about me :

- I make her a little gift wich is a computer :  (Little ??? crazy) You can resend it to me, my little sister will be happy to have this "little" gift

- I'm crazy : I tell the truth so it makes me crazy in her eyes...

- She told all people that she refund my money : My paypal account have no refund, and I post prouve, and now she claim that I don't deserve my money back...

So to tell that she had, and change her position is not lying ???

- She tell that Karyn is a spellcaster : Karyn is the one who was sending to Robin website thanks to her good comments on forums, so how can she be a spellcaster ???

No one send money to Karyn, and she never sell anything ! She's just helping people, and share her own experience.

- She says that I insult her sister. Where ? When? Who is her sister ? She says about me : Go kill yourself, you are a drama queen, you are useless, you are sick.....

What are this words ?

She claim to have reply to all people : No, no, no, I read online that a lot of people don't have any reply from her when they contact her about spells with no move...

Some Example on Ebay :

- http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&ftab=AllFeedback&userid=hansel_and_gretal&iid=-1&de=off&items=25&interval=0&mPg=138&page=13

(She is really a good liar cause she reply 3 month after to the feedback and tell about a tornado...)

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&ftab=AllFeedback&userid=hansel_and_gretal&iid=-1&de=off&items=25&interval=0&mPg=138&page=22

Follow-up by preciousii (Nov-30-11 08:03):Still has not worked

Reply by hansel_and_gretal (May-02-12 13:34):I refunded you and kept doing the spell for free to help! Not a nice person :-(

(The Ebay client let a feedback to say that It doesn't work, and Robin reply that the client is not a nice person)...

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&ftab=AllFeedback&userid=hansel_and_gretal&iid=-1&de=off&items=25&interval=0&mPg=138&page=24

I never obtained any Buyer: Member id joeva73  ( Feedback Score Of 172)  Oct-13-11 10:43
Reply by hansel_and_gretal (Oct-13-11 13:13):Nothing is sent with bad habits spell. Why not email me first before this?

Follow-up by nuttycup (Jan-22-12 21:44): it turned out 2 b a scam time has past n nothing mislead n money lost shame!!!

Reply by hansel_and_gretal (May-02-12 13:36):Actually I refunded her w/o her asking. She was very cruel to me. I have proof!

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&ftab=AllFeedback&userid=hansel_and_gretal&iid=-1&de=off&items=25&interval=0&mPg=138&page=28

Follow-up by nickyanne10 (Nov-16-11 13:03): doesn't work, think it's probably a scam like the rest on here.

Reply by hansel_and_gretal (May-02-12 13:23):Refunded, she bought again, refunded again! I refuse to work with her, shes mad. --

So every unhappy custumers who tell that it doesn't work are mad...

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&ftab=AllFeedback&userid=hansel_and_gretal&iid=-1&de=off&items=25&interval=0&mPg=138&page=33

SADLY I HAV HAD NO RESULTS FROM EITHER SPELLS THO SHE TRIED DA BEST THAT SHE CLD

Buyer: Member id christina2010shopaholic  (private)  Aug-31-11 02:06

Reply by hansel_and_gretal (Aug-31-11 11:17):U said it worked & they broke up! Theyre doing what I said they might? Confused?

Follow-up by christina2010shopaholic (Sep-04-11 00:40):No darling they had one tiff made up & now they are getting a new house 2gether.

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&ftab=AllFeedback&userid=hansel_and_gretal&iid=-1&de=off&items=25&interval=0&mPg=138&page=41

Follow-up by norigon (Jun-05-12 10:10):Didn't work. Recent poor communications. Disappointed.

So you can see that they are a lot of follow up, and some had courage to tell the truth...

You can see that she call everyone who tell that it doesn't work : Mad, crazy, not nice person....

In conclusion, if she was real, she would make her excuses, reveal the truth and that she was wrong and bad with me and that the all things was from her, and then I can accept her excuses.

Thank you Maya for posting that.  Robin/Audra has been trying to say you are crazy, that you are a competitor trying to ruin her, that she refunded you, that you never even a client. So many lies flying out of her mouth. I am pretty sure no one that has dealt with her in the past and been burned as well doubted you for one second. Truly it was not even up to you to post the proof, this should have been done by that crazy scammer herself.

The real truth here is that it is clear by how many months you waited for some kind of results from your spells, you got none like so many others. I believe that when you finally had enough and realized nothing was going to happen you probably questioned scammer which then made her angry because she knew you were done spending more. Your paypal time for claiming a refund was free and clear, she was laughing. She hoped that you would just walk away and chalk it up to experience. That is the a key component in cons like her. She does not charge hundreds of dollars per spell so that when they don't work people are more apt to do something about it. At an average of $20 a pop she can make the same on volume as the big money scammers do on one con. You notice she only has a few spells over $100. This is another part of the con. She lets you start off nice and small and under the pretense of caring so much and promising so much, you want to hurry things along with 'stronger spells'. She is a master manipulator make no mistake about that.

I believe she gives refunds instantly if she knows you will be trouble. Again she is far from stupid, I will give her that much.

You have to understand Maya the people that are defending her have their hopes and dreams resting on her words. They paid her good money to get the guarantees she hands out. IF they believe that others like us have paid her the same kind of money with no results, that shatters their  hopes. I don't blame them for wanting her to be real. Face it, everyone that goes to her obviously does. Unfortunately the hard truth is she is real alright, a real heartless con artist that wants to make a living from our pain. Again, do a google search of the sociopath, it will explain her in detail. Everyone thinks that sociopaths are always men and murderers and low life people. Trust me, some of the most powerful and influential people we see are classic sociopaths.

You have done many many people a great service Maya by standing up and refusing to be pushed down by her and her 'followers'. (You can bet money that many of the posts by 'clients' have been her posting under various names, so don't think there is a whole mass of people against you..maybe 3 at best right now...lol) You may have been overly emotional, you may have problems expressing yourself with english, but what no one defending her seems to get is that you feel the same pain as they do waiting for their wishes to be fulfilled. No one knows your personal situation and no one should have had the right to see your pain aired out all over the internet. I don't care how 'crazy' she wanted to make you look to save her business. It is just outright wrong the way she handled this and continues to handle it and if anyone still goes to her after all of this has come out, then they obviously deserve to be conned and need that lesson for some reason in their life.

I sat down and just did some simple math that might clear up how she could not possibly be casting all her spells unless she requires no sleep ever.

The one thing that Robin/Audra has made it a point to tell everyone is she does everything herself. She only has the 'coven' help with spells...so...100+ emails a day..if she is a super typer,  and takes just 10 minutes to read and answer each, that is 1000 minutes of her day or 16 hours. Based on the volume of email, let's say 1/3 are new spells so that would be an average of 30 spells a day. Now she says she waits and casts on the weekends. So 30 x 7 days is 210 spells a week. Even if she only spent 15 min on a spell (which from all that I have read in spells that is pretty much impossible) then that is 52 hours just doing spells.  Now add in the hours she must prepare for each new person, reading their data and keeping track of it all at 30 new spells a day. Factor in also that she takes a day off on Monday. Now factor in the fact that she has had health issues, computer issues, family issues, storm issues, yadda yadda..and tell me logically...she does each and every spell that she is paid for? Yes, I think not too.  Do the math on the spells too. average 30 spells a day x average $20? She is raking in $600 a day and you wonder why she is going psycho trying to keep this scam going?

I am not sure if you have thought of this Maya but you might want to do an online fraud report with the FBI. They do not take kindly to this type of thing, especially sharing of private information and bullying as she did with you.  I personally think that everyone that has had dealings with her needs to submit to them. With only a few reports it will flag her. Here is the link for you should you decide to continue to get back what she owes you:

http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx

It's been a long time since I have seen such rampant paranoia. Posting a differing opinion on a public forum is not stalking. Wanting to be safe from attack by negative people exhibiting clear signs of mental instability is not stalking. Everyone I have heard in Robins community just wants to be left in peace to work on our their own personal goals. I AM a client, and an individual and I know for a FACT there is no one here, there, or anywhere else quite like me; you should be so thoughtful, organized, and articulate; perhaps the things you say would have more merit. Bottom line, I really don't care who YOU think I am, in  the big picture you are irrelevant to my life, and nothing you say changes anything in MY life that really matters. The fact that you keep attacking a community I care about though.

Speculative theory is NOT fact. All of you people who are working on your various conspiracy theories (oh yeah, ALL of us on the site, every person in the community is really Robin. Maybe YOU are Robin too?)- seriously, move on, you won't tear apart the community we have built, because love is stronger than hate and fear.  I have never actually physically met a single person from Robin's community, I joined it last month and I have been impressed by the way people care about each other and support each others goals. The difference between Robins folks, and your "gang" are  as dichotomous as night and day. I'll throw my lot in with them over you all anytime :) Anyone outside the pit of paranoids who started these hate posts, I invite you to come to our community and judge for yourselves the kind of people we are. I think, comparing the two camps, you will be pleasantly surprised by what we are co-creating. We strive for happiness, peace, and unity. If you are down, there will be someone there to help lift you up, and to encourage you to find the strength within to find the path that is right for you. I know, because they have done that for me.

Honestly, even if the spells I got never manifest the way I want, I consider the sense of friendship and support well worth my time and the small investment I made when I joined the community. Because I am rational, I will not overspend beyond my means, and I do not expect Robin to create a whole new life for me, while I sit on my butt and whine. What she does helps direct energy, but if you have no positive energy to work with, not much is going to happen. No one controls another, unless you give away your rights as an individual. I am certainly not sending computers to anyone I haven't met, and I am pretty sure Robin would never ask any of us to do that. She has never told me to purchase anything in particular, in fact she actually advised me against purchasing additional spells due to my financial situation. I will not risk my hopes and dreams and what I desire to manifest in my life by lying and creating discord, so it really doesn't make a difference to ME if you think I am Santa Claus, or Robin, or your neighbor. In fact, maybe I AM your neighbor, better check to see if I am watching you right now :)

It is ironic that even tho you think Robin is a fraud,  you have given her so much power over your lives. Throughout history, small minded, fearful, and foolish people have attacked what they do not believe or understand. They blame everyone else for the problems in their lives instead of taking responsibility for themselves. A healthy, well adjusted person will investigate, try something out, and if it doesn't work for them, they move on to something that does. No need to start a war on your way out. Then again, considering some of you still come to Robin's site to attack others, you clearly are too emotionally invested in your petty "revenge" to move on. I honestly feel sorry for you and I am so very glad that no matter what the Universe hands me, it's never made me compromise my values and principles. I have said what I felt needed said, you can believe it or not, but please seek some help to get over your obvious psychological trauma, whatever the cause, and do something positive with your life.
Peace and love,
-Hopefulskies

This has grown beyond weird. Stalking people on other forum is not acceptable behavior. Something is more amiss than some of us have ever witnessed. You are now in a frenzied state. PLEASE SEEK MEDICAL HELP & QUICKLY!! You are not doing yourself any favors, posting under different name, taking things grossly out of context, having your groupies post as fake mediators and what not. 

Hello,

I tired of her lies so I update with new docs, to show you how she is lying.

She also use my name on her board to make me consider like a crazy girl, and she reveal personnal data like my name to all people on forum, board, and her blog.

This is totally forbidden and a violation.

She make like she is the victime, but I don't know why and how she make that, cause she is the one who hurt, insult and detroy people life.

Really? You are going to convince people you are a genuine client with that description of some living deity? Does she walk on water and cast bread across the lands too? Give us a stinking break!!

Ok. If you think everyone should take the high road, do you mind telling everyone why it is ok for that woman running that site to publish personal details about her client, make her seem crazy because her English is not good, accept a gift she clearly makes more than enough money to buy on her own? (that could have been returned with a simple 'return to sender' and a thank you to Maya for being so generous) She had no problems telling everyone on her forum she felt Maya had do that just to get special treatment. OK. If she felt that way why did she keep it? That right there speaks volumes about her.

She thrives on drama and attention. She goes from one life drama to another. Storms. Computer problems. Health issues. On and on and on. But she always manages to barely make it with no sleep and oh God, she just gives and gives and gives....Mother Teresa needed to take lessons from this woman. But hey, no client denied, as long as you pay that money, you are going to get your spell by gosh and by golly even if she is dying....do I need to go on?

If you are actually a client (Which I highly doubt, but we are all entitled to our suspicions), then tell us, why is her completely unprofessional behavior to be tolerated but not our exposing it?

It is ok for Audra/Robin to talk like a two-bit trailer tramp while bashing people but people that have exposed her are supposed to bite it?

What-the-hell-ever!!!

This post of yours is just one more layer of the onion on here that clearly shows what is going on with this whole situation.

I conclude with all this that there 2 women running this scam, at least I hope so. Audra the niece or daughter or whatever she is and Holly the aunt/mother..God it is all so screwed up. There are 2 very distinct styles of writing, diction, conveyance. They are clearly recognizable. What has me stumped is if these 2 women share one body, because that is the even scarier possibility.

I also find it odd that she was bashing, thrashing and crashing on her success page for hours as Oh Oh and then shuts it down with your words as her new 'email to me, thank you ever so much all my lovely loyal followers' speech. d**n I could see her taking a bow and throwing kisses to the crowd with that one.

Best laugh of the day from this whole sick mess is that right to the bitter end she is trying to say she is out casting spells. ROFLMAO! Really? Really? Her and her coven are out casting spells and someone runs right out and grabs her in to take care of the site and conveniently read the last message which just 'happened' to be from hopefulskies. Really?

I am sorry but I am just trying to stop my head shaking from the transparency of the whole scam that has been revealed because she just could not shut up and return some money and a computer. I will say it again. GREED.

Robin/Audra is out of control. Her success page is filled with the truth hidden in her posts/rants going on right now.  Read and trust your own  instincts. I am copy/pasting all of the accusations she is throwing around over there because I can gurantee you they will disappear very quickly when she realizes she has been caught in even more inappropriate behaviors.

I am not Karyn or Maya. I am a client that was conned. I was led on for 8 months by this person. I had my own bad feelings when lots of things were not sitting right. If anyone thinks that there are only 3 unhappy people from this whole scam, you are as delusional as Robin/Audra.

As for the Ebay feedback. Too many people are too scared to leave negative or honest feedback with spells because of the amount of private information they gave out. All scammers COUNT ON THIS FACT! Case on point, look what Robin/Audra did to Maya?

Regardless, these 2 facts were what sent the warning bells over the edge for me. 1.) Robin/Audra
kept telling everyone that she had refunded Maya and that Maya was emotionally disturbed or whatever. She was telling the world this in her own forum. That to me is a huge red flag. I don't care what the nature of the situation is between them, Robin/Audra violated the privacy agreement in order to get people to feel sorry for her! That was wrong no matter how you try to justify it. In my eyes as a paying customer, it is up to Robin/Audra to back up her claims. Maya  posted exactly what spells she paid for and how much. None of this whole situation would have arisen if Robin/Audra had just taken a screen shot of the supposed refund she sent to Maya.

2.) Every paypal refund transaction has the details of the item that is being refunded. She could have cut out Maya's personal information and shown a clear screenshot of her refund. If she does not know now to do that, she could have went to any local computer expert and had it done for about $10 bucks or less. If she had posted the proof of that refund with the date it was done, it should have matched her claim of the refund to a t. That is how your defend your reputation, with facts!

This was never done nor ever offered to be shown by Robin/Audra. Instead she chose to make Maya look like some pathetic loser and bash her both in her forum as well as on other sites under assumed identities.

Also long before Maya came out with anything, I read a comment on a forum somewhere about the ebay account. Someone questioned Robin on why it was a clothing sales or something to that effect before the spells.  Robin told this person it belonged to her niece Audra. Then Audra became her 'daughter' so who knows what the story is there. I believe that Robin/Audra posting as OhOh on her success page to bash everyone may have inadvertently cleared that up with a post I will paste below.

I don't care how many supposed happy clients come in here and try to defend that woman, in my eyes she is an absolute con artist of the worst possible caliber. Google sociopath and you will understand what this woman is. Her multiple posting identities on her own site is another clear sign she has some major problems. Read this post below by OhOh aka Robin/Audra, it is the most revealing of who is who in that coven/family whatever:

Oh, Oh on
July 19, 2012 at 03:52 PM said:

Has anyone ever thought that it was weird that there were payments to someone named Holly Mockwitz back awhile there? So from what the geniuses came up with. Cathy is Audra's Mom, Holly is Cathy's sister. Holly has a paypal account and obviously used it before this Myles person. So couldn't Audra be the niece of Robin but also raised by her in a adoptive like fashion? I know of other families where sisters or grandparents will raise them because of a problem in the family. So if Cathy is like those people made her sound in the rants (assuming that those idiots didn't hack that and make it up) than does it not go to reason that maybe Holly raised Audra and they consider themselves Mother/Daughter but biologically aunt/neice?
That is what I think is going on but it is not of my God d**n business and quite frankly no one else's. If their family dynamic is a bit different, then who the F##K cares? Not one of those idiots brought Holly into this which I found odd since I made payments to her and Myles. I'm sure other people did too. Robin said she was Holly a while back when it was asked about who Holly was.
Even some idiot on that rippoff report thing said they saw Audra's facebook account and it showed pictures of Holly as Audra's mom. So uh, maybe she raised her? I don't know, I don't care and if so, it shows that Robin is still a very amazing person. I think it is sick you people keep tearing up their family when obviously they've gone though some sh*t already.

I haven't seen any "cruelty" from Robin. Robin feels compassion for sick people, and despite the hopelessness of trying to help people who don't wish to be helped, she has remained rational and much kinder than her detractors in her responses on the forum about all this garbage. You may have succeeded in hurting her feelings, but the overwhelming response from her REAL clients has been very uplifting and supportive. The reason?

Because we APPRECIATE what Robin has done, and continues to do to make her website and the community around it, positive and hopeful. Now why do you people feel the need to bash us for NOT hating someone? Seriously? Regardless of what your experience has or has not been, no healthy person would attack someone else just for saying they have had a positive experience. The fact that anyone who disagrees with your smear campaign gets attacked by the "gang" shows it isn't YOUR experience that matters to you, but the destruction of an entire community of positive, helpful, good people. I have purchased actual products I have been disapointed with from many companies, and I can honestly say I have never felt the need to attack or start hate campaigns against anyone for it, refund or not. Then again, I am an adult, and a reasonable one at that. My mother was fond of telling me "always consider the source" when forming an opinion about hearsay. When I see the source these attacks come from, I see people I would never want anywhere near my life, or my family. Then again I don't make a habit of seeking out negative people to form gangs for any reason.

This isn't about a few people who feel they have a reasonable grievance to voice, but about a group of vengeful, negative, bitter people who are out to bully anyone with a differing opinion.
Hopefully people reading this will see that Robin has a lot of good, decent, positive people behind her, who support what she is doing. You get what you give. Take the high road. If refusing to swear, lie, or attack any specific individual makes me "crazy", if speaking out for something I believe in makes me "crazy",if judging a situation based on my OWN direct experience, as opposed to someone else's makes me "crazy" I'd rather be crazy then :) Go ahead and attack me for this post, it just shows your state of spiritual evolution.
Bless you Robin for the work you do, and for the family atmosphere you cultivate through your website. 

O Please "Martin" this IS NOT about you!

Audra English continues to lie, manipulate and use multiple personalities to gain followers when actually she is losing them, such wicked abuse from a young woman. Such a sick, sick individual!
There are scores of people waking up to the fact that they have lost there money due to the fact of this SCAM. Multiple Ebay shops.. When that struggled to take off ooh Audra made a fake person "Robin Bird" using a picture of her mother. Paypal Payments go through to Myles Audra's boyfriend, "part of a supposed coven and high priest"

Raising cash for her wedding this year!

Stop, get on meds., have them adjusted and/or seek medical help. As to the baiting claim, that's ludicrous. You aren't even making sense. I am sorry you have such major issues. I  think that must be hard. With that said you are dispictably mean, scam and lie. Just stop now and get the help that you need. This irrationality is over the top. You are doing yourself or selves more damage. Possibly when you quiet your mind you can rethink just how cruel you have been Robin Bird aka Audra English, Mary, etc., etc.  I think you are getting off on all this attention, but this is not flattering attention. Just shut the p.c. off before you run yourself more in the ground. That isn't even anger spoken, it's sincere advice from a fellow human being. Really..take a little time off and regroup.

This story is getting old..

I baited you two (3 if you count the other guy on here who decided to put Karyn's/Kayla's posts
  down in a more legible manner.) when I mentioned that it could be Audra. 


d**n, sure as anything you ran with that too.Everything I put down about Audra was B.S. and I knew that once I pointed out the flawed logic on Cathy and threw out a new name that you would run with that too and you've now exposed that for you it isn't about the truth but the vendetta you have against Robin. Thank you for helping prove my point to expose you as liars and that you would spew out more hate and false accusations regardless of whom you victimized. I am tired of the fake a$$ other names you two put up on this board (calling you out Stephanie of 'Haifax' Canada, Nora/Maya if your going to do that you got to spell better and speak like you know English....Ask Kayla she knows how to do it).You two truly don't care of what you say and who you hurt along the way, is this what your crusade is about and the collateral damage and carnage you create. Nora/Maya or Kayla/Karyn, have you ever just tried asking her what her real name
 directly? But again you don't really care if you actually hurt Cathy and her family much less Audra or Robin and their families. 

BTW...Its no coincidence that on the rip off report all occurred just within the last 10 days....starting with you two(and your other names that have filled all of the posts).

The truth is that yes, I am gay man that Robin has helped over the last year or so through some of the roughest parts of my life. Your d**n right I owe here, I love her, and I wouldn't be on this Earth without her. She has talked me down from a ledge and even though not her spells have manifested for me, several have which is enough proof that her spells work. I'm a real person who bought from ebay and left her positive feedback like  thousands of others. 

I've been the subject of hate just like this before because people don't like me because of my own sexuality and so to see you to use such hateful and hurtful tactics against someone who has done nothing but care for people, makes me sick. She has dealt with over 2000 ebayers alone, many of which cite their spell or spells worked. So obviously she does do them and they do work for several people. She also has a very good reputation, well, until you all did this. There was nothing against Robin before now and she has been  in business for years. So it makes it hard for any rational person to believe anything you've said, especially when you've changed your stories several times.

 You and your little group are doing everything you can to ruin her. So now your lies are exposed
  and it is just too obvious you are out to ruin her for your own personal satisfaction.

I agree with you Hopefulsies and you just proved that very thing, about crazies posting on the net with your post.

Audra English aka Robin Bird lied and smeared a client's name with no shame, who was kind enough to send her a computer. - (not positive)
She used her own mother as a ruse. - (not positive)
She pretended to care for clients, yet stifled their truths.- (not positive)
She came on another forum and created much contention and chaos.- (not positive)
She brainwashed and manipulated her clients.- (not positive)
She failed many and refused to reimburse their money. (not positive)
She runs her site like a cult -(Someone apprporiately pointed out like a Jim Jones mentality.)- (NOT POSITIVE)  
The list goes on and on and nope, not positive at all!

Myles Knoll is her b.f. and who your paypal statement shows. He may or may not be caught up in this scam sham, but Audra sure is.    

Anyone who has a right to access the message board has the password.
Robin, whoever she is, has been nothing but kind and supportive to many many people.
She even told me not to buy spells I could not afford because I have to take care of myself first. I have never, ever had any psychic, witch, or self help guru tell me not to purchase additional products/services from them out of concern for my financial state.

The fact that it takes her awhile sometimes to respond to emails is because she is trying to help so many people, and unlike other "spell casters" who ARE just out for money, she will counsel you, give you support and encouragement and actually CARE.
Whoever is posting this garbage is damaged and negative and it's obvious, since spirit work depends on whatyou put into it, when considering what you got out of it, I'd say you get what you deserve :) Peace and love and positivity to all!
-Hopefulskies

Busted...Try again....This story is getting old..I baited you two (3 if you count the other gu on here who decided to put Karyn's/Kayla's posts down in a more legible manner.) when I mentioned that it could be Audra.

d**n, sure as anything you ran with that too.Everything I put down about Audra was B.S. and I knew that once I pointed out the flawed logic on Cathy and threw out a new name that you would run with that too and you've now exposed that for you it isn't about the truth but the
vendetta you have against Robin. Thank you for helping prove my point to expose you as liars
and that you would spew out more hate and false accusations regardless of whom you victimized.
 I am tired of the fake a$$ other names you two put up on this board (calling you out Stephanie of
 'Haifax' Canada, Nora/Maya if your going to

do that you got to spell better and speak like you know English....Ask Kayla she knows how to do
 it). You two truly don't care of what you say and who you hurt along the way,
 is this what your crusade is about and the collateral damage and carnage you create. Nora/Maya
or Kayla/Karyn, have you ever just tried asking her what her real name directly? But again you
don't really care if you actually hurt Cathy and her family,much less Audra or Robin and their families.
 
BTW...Its no coincidence that on the rip off report all occurred just within the last 10 days....
Starting with you two(and your other names that have filled all of the posts).The truth is that yes,
I am gay man that Robin has helped over the last year or so through some of the roughest parts of
my life.

Your d**n right I owe here, I love her, and I wouldn't be on this Earth without her. She has talked
me down from a ledge and even though not her spells have manifested for me, several have which
is enough proof that her spells work. I'm a real person who bought from ebay and left her positive
feedback like thousands of others.

I've been the subject of hate just like this before because people don't like me because of my own
sexuality and so to see you to use such hateful and hurtful tactics against someone who has done
nothing but care for people, makes me sick.

She has dealt with over 2000 ebayers alone, many of which cite their spell or spells worked.
So obviously she does do them and they do work for several people. She also has a very good reputation, well, until you all did this. There was nothing against
Robin before now and she has been in business for years. So it makes it hard for any rational person to believe anything you've said, especially when you've changed your stories several times. You and your little group are doing everything you can to ruin her. So now your lies are exposed
and it is just too obvious you are out to ruin her for your own personal satisfaction.

To So Tired of Spells Not Working-your post touched me. I couldn't agree more and echo your sentiment to scammers.

Stephanie, I'm sorry to hear you too were hurt. I have been too in a different way. First I feel badly for recommending this Robin-who we now know is Audra English, a 28 year old woman posting a picture of her mother.  She has let down many, treated them unkindly, as well as unfairly, nor refunding their money for "guaranteed "spells. I feel somewhat responsible,
as I hate hurting people, even though it was accidental.

Secondly as to who Cathy is, it's Audra's mother Cathy Jean Mockwitz English, and I feel quite badly about that too for posting a couple of her postings, when she was NOT at fault of any of this Audra's behavior. In my defense Audra had lied and deceived by posting her mother's picture and me finding their shared address, as well as seeing the Mormon association assumed it was her. Basically Audra covered her azz, while throwing her struggling mother (see post #16) under the bus, by using her as a ruse.  Audra attacked a client like an unrelenting, rabid dog, and in a most cruel way and the only reason reserach was done to begin with. As mentioned by others her Robin Bird (Audra English) greed and ego finally did her in.

Audra seems to have an inherited duality in personality traits. She lies blantantly, as the lies were exposed. When her dark side comes out it's cruelty in full. She owns bunnies-as it appears on FB, so it may be a Dr Jeckle-Mr. Hyde syndrome, but I would be glad if I were you to be off their form and saying good riddance!

whose cathy wheres truth

It is about time this came out! How many more people were you going to con with your fake coven crap? Do you know how much damage you do to people by making them promises to bring back people and do things. Never mind rip-off reports hurting your scam business, what are YOU doing to people?

You should be held personally responsible for the emotional damage you do! Karyn/Kayla whatever, is doing the most positive thing that could be done in this screwed up world today and that is EXPOSE THE TRUTH!!

You are not here defending your integrity, because you do not have any. You are not defending your loving treatment of others, because leading people on with false hope is despicable and the way you treated Maya is unacceptable...period! She send you a gift of a computer, but why? BECAUSE SHE BELIEVED IN YOU! Going on your personal website and trashing her to all your clients in order save face is something very ugly. There is no love and light in leading people on with promises you know damned well will not come through. Any person with an ounce of integrity or morality would have sent that poor woman at least payment for the computer!! You sell spells like popcorn and have more than enough money to pay for your own damned computer!! You are here to defend your cash cow. That is it!

Greed...you must be so proud of yourself. Any fool can do the math. you have over 100 spells and all your new voodoo bullcrap ones are $40 and many buy the custom for $150...I am low balling you at making at least $3000+/mth That is some pretty easy cash for sitting at your computer or a few hours a day answering emails and pretending to do spells. You take 3 days off, great gig you got going there. Must really suck that it is coming to an end.

For entertainment purposes only! But who's entertainment? You think it is entertaining to make people totally dependent on you, sending you their money in return for your false promises? Not just you, but all scammers out there! F**K you for taking advantage of us when we are at our most vulnerable. Are we to blame? Yes, because the bottom line is you do not hold a gun to our head to buy from you...but you do something that causes far more damage. Holding a gun and taking the money is quick and it is over. But you take our money and prolong the pain and suffering taking as much money as we are willing to throw at you. Yes we throw it because we are made so many promises if we just keep believing in your power. Not the power of your spell casting, but THE POWER OF YOUR SUGGESTIONS!

Your scam ran so much better than most and you worked a great angle. KILL them with kindness. Pretend to really care and do the work and they will never see the wolf inside. Problem you ran into? Your ego just could not get enough of everyone falling all over you, telling you how great you are. Oh yeah. Your success stories page. Another freeking joke. You have deleted every single post from people that spells did nothing for. Many of the comments are so clearly written by the same person it is pathetic. Again, any ethical and real caster would allow the negative not working comments to show they are just human and cannot work miracles!

So to Karyn and Maya and the rest that have been honest and not afraid to take the time to help others not get burned? THANK YOU.

It wasn't until she attacked a client - post client with a fanatical and extreme obsession that we found out from this Cathy's own postings the severe mental problems she clearly has.

Maya most of us defintely believe you. You didn't have to send me the Paypal info. I knew you were telling the truth. I was pointing out to Robin (Cathy) that I knew she wouldn't provide the info because she was lying. Let's all please not give this crazy Cathy scam woman any more attention. She has caused much hurt, wasted time and caused much discord. A poster from Los Angeles provided enough information on his report, along with picture captures that if others can't clearly see something is wrong with Robin Bird-CathyJean Mockwitz, Audra English and their fake covem then they may be crazy too.

sounds to me like she/he has Borderline Personality Disorder (formerly known as multiple personalities).

Actually. These two disorders are completely different and Borderline has never been known as multiple personality disorder.

It sounds to me like you may have known all of this information for some time, correct me if I'm wrong.... If that is the case, why are you only coming to the surface with it now? Seems kind of fishy to me....

Its really hurting to have found this about Robin. I trusted her because of what people told me about her.

She played nice, but then she won't reply to any email. She insult me, and also told me to go kill myself.

She don't how much pain she did to me, and she continu to harrassing me because I'm telling what she did to me, and call me a liar.

Her custumers believe her, and I don't know why, cause she never prouve anything, and also she never contact me again, and never REFUND my money. Also someone supposed to be a madiator was in fact a custumers of her, who want to 'restore' Robin's name...

I know, I'm not perfect, but I'm a nice girl and try my best to help people, so being treat like that by this woman is really not Fair, and people have to know this.

Another irony is you post others spend too much time on the computer and call people immature, yet I took a whole month off and you were still bashing Maya. Keep it up hun, still got more crazy posts of Cathy Jean's. The worst are yet to come. Your call.

Opal13, Incorrectly spelled Anonymous or whomever you are BINGO I am Karyn. I couldn't get the sign up right. I am not breeding hate-unlike Cathy Jean, but exposing truth. I am not an angry type person normally, but when you and your n**i type group continued to lie and bash I found deranged sounding posts from Cathy Jean Markowitz, Cathy Jean English,  Kohavah, Cathy Jean Mockwitz (Romanovae***Da La Vinciente), or whatever else she wants to call herself, at any given moment. What you guy's have done is a crying shame and every time one of you posts I will expose her crazy rantings more..if needs be one at a time. You're just mad that you can't bash with reckless abandonment and fool anymore.

http://www.samharris.org/forum/viewthread/9158/P15/

Jesus Christ - 05 January 2008 02:41 AM
You perceive that I speak of myself when I am communicating in my writings/messages. You have also perceived that I am of the Christian Faith. My way is not of any of your adulterous world religions. To be quite honestI find you deeply perverted and disrespectful. Not only to me, but to those who have helped me with translation and comprehension. To continue dialogue with you would be an insult to my ancestors. We are through with you.

Most Sincerely,
Cathy Jean Mockwitz(Romanovae***Da La Vinciente)

Response
*sigh*  Clearly hallucinating (auditory form) and sounds to me like she/he has Borderline Personality Disorder (formerly known as multiple personalities.)  We are through with you.  Definitely not alone in her/his head.  She needs to either get on psychiatric medication, or have her meds adjusted.

Karyn or Kayla, whichever is your real name. You sure seem.to have alot of spare time on your hands. Why don't you direct some of your obsession with Robin and direct it itowards doing something more positive. Like maybe go plant some flowers or pet kittens at the animal shelter, or will nothing thrive in the shadows of your hateful nature? It is sad when people have nothing better to do what they don't like in others, which is hide behind a computer and spread hate. You are the queen of that and there is no one that compares to your of hypocracy.

I just noticed there has been another report about (Cathy Jean Markowitz) aka Robin Bird and it doesn't appear to be from any of the posters that have been on this report. I agree with you Maya75, racism and bigotry aren't in most people's nature. Something is much more amiss with her postings expressing her delusions of grandeur and not worth feeling sad about.

I was crying when I read what she wrote on "people of color" , I come from a really mixte family, I have asian blood, european blood, Irish blood and even if I'm white I have african blood.

I hate racism, this is the most criminal and bad things...



If Robin is hates gay, black people, and spoke of the name of Jesus she is really crazy...



I send her a message to her to told her that I'm waiting for her excuses, but after what she wrote, I think that she must make excuse to a lot of people....

http://www.postmormon.org/exp_e/index.php/discussions/topic/6512/viewthread/23220/

Again you live a life of contradiction.

She may not be when she switches moods or the voices in her head tell her differetly or she wants money, but I have posts to show it. You all are being duped. She is sadly also racist, as well. Look at the responses she got as others were highly offended. You see this is what happens when lies keep being posted about an innocent. Research is then done. Look at her picture on Myspace. CATHY JEAN MACKWITZ is whom you have come to know as Robin.  I found all kinds of stuff on this woman. Crazy Stuff. I kid you not. If her greed hadn't taken over others we may not have found out. She has published prayers in her own name against witchcraft and all things occult. She speaks as though she is speaking for Jesus Christ himself. Something is wayy amiss. She gets others riled up on forums with her judgemental rants. Save your money and heartache. Google her name tons of stuff will come up.

**TAKE THE TIME TO RESEARCH HER YOURSELF AND YOU WILL SEE.**

Cathy kohavah Jean Mockwitz
http://www.myspace.com/434468725  <PUT THIS LINK IN SEARCH.> See for yourself. 

 (The first part doesn't sound too awfully bad until the bashing begins. Keep reading and you will see. You can defintely tell it's her by her other religious rants.)

http://www.lifeaftermormonism.net/forum/topics/my-awakened-view-on-the-topic-of-homosexuality
She just wrote this last month. She may have serious issues, but you are being duped.

This on June 6th 20012

My Awakened View On The Topic Of Homosexuality Posted by Mary on June 6, 2012 at 10:42am in General DiscussionView
Discussions.

On the issue of homosexuality.  I have been careful in regards to this issue, much more than most individuals realize. Because I have known certain people who are homosexual and l*****n, including various family members of these individuals, it does not please me that I have been put in a position of having to make a painful decision on this matter. However I have come to a final conclusion, which I will stand by. I will give you some of my reasons.

I knew a hair salon owner who was homosexual. He fell in love with another hair salon owner who was also homosexual. Since they could not have children on their own, they talked a female friend into allowing herself to be impregnated by one of them, where in it was agreed that the homosexual couple would then have full custody of and raise the child. The women did get pregnant, and then gave birth, to triplets. Two boys and a girl.

Eventually the homosexual couple decided that they were no longer compatible and split up. The three children are now approx. 10 years of age. The children are very confused, not the stable little family that homosexuals claim. Their natural mother has part custody along with the sperm donor homosexual father. The other homosexual has visitation and the situation is a mess. The two men were married.

Another situation is one where one of my friends married a man whom she had 4 children with. When the youngest child was approx. 8 years of age, the father decided that he was actually homosexual, not bi sexual or heterosexual. He left the family in ruin, entered into his first homosexual love affair and contracted aids. The man is still alive after at least 10 years, living with a new homosexual lover, along with medications to sustain his life running into the 10s of thousands of dollars each month. Needless to say, the wife detests homosexuality, for it ruined her family.

A couple years ago, my youngest daughter was dating a young man. Both of his parents died of aids when he was still in his teen years, he was the oldest of 4 children born to this couple. The young man's father decided to cheat on his wife with a man, contracted aids, brought it home to his wife. The wife gave birth to the couples last 2 children, not knowing that her husband
was living this type of lifestyle. First the Father died, then several years later the mother. Leaving relatives to care for their orphan children. The two younger children now must be screened on an ongoing basis, to watch for any signs of HIV to appear in them. The homosexual/bi sexual father also fathered a son with another women, who also gets to go through this continual exam, due to the man's choice. The oldest son, now in his 20s has no respect for homosexuality. In his opinion, it is a choice. His last words on the matter were, "My Father made a decision to choose a foreign lifestyle. My Mother was only along for the journey. One that would degrade and humiliate her to the very end of her short life. She had her choice stolen. My younger brothers and sister did not have a choice in this matter either." The homosexual lifestyle is a choice that keeps on maiming and
killing long after the initiator has died.

Such a dangerous time. Such a flammable topic. Two very opposite sides. One that may only be determined once and for all, by a bloody Civil War. Male and Female (Mankind) created a Man-child, or so they thought. What they found instead was a foreign species, something alien, strange, not in harmony with their own race. This was not a heterosexual Man, but a counterfeit, that could not further its own race, without temporarily going outside its own species, in order to further the alien body, which merely
appears as a heterosexual Man, but which is a counterfeit, a con, that is not in unison with Mankind. (Male and female.)

A counterfeit race to Mankind, which we now identify as The Homosexual Species, and it's various color of homosexual man. In ancient history, this alien race was identified as a colored man, or a man of color. Meaning that the specie may seem to be of the tone of Mankind, but it is a counterfeit, an alien, as in alien law. Not created for the positive purpose of
furthering the heterosexual being known as Mankind, but in opposition to the Pro Creation of Man. This pretender, pretending to be heterosexual, species has always caused contention, confusion, and serious adversity and strife for Mankind.

It is a contrary species that cannot and will not live in harmony, for the soul of the colored/heterosexual race is in direct conflict with Mankind (male and female). This specie must use heterosexual Man (male and female) to continue its own race.

The counterfeit species pretended to be heterosexual, merely for the purpose of creating the pretender of Man, which is not Mankind (male and female) but the antagonist, the various species now identified as homosexual, l*****n, transgender, etc. This alien race was desperate to live and feed and to conquer therefore they had to use the bodies of heterosexuals, to berth
into the atmosphere.

The ancients tried to warn future generations of this violent colored specie that would demand to be recognized, honored and obeyed, by Heterosexual Man (male and female). Heterosexuals, do you recognize the "war" that has been
launched against you. Do you recognize that the sympathies you have for this alien creature is merely to get you to go against your own species, wherein you are very subtly and quite successfully being made servants, protectors and beneficiaries and slaves to a dangerous, antagonistic alien race?

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No "Mary"...that was definitely you because all your postings you have done on this site can be easily traced just by going to your page.  Come on...'fess up! I think I now "get it", especially when  you sign yourself "Cathy Kohavah Jean Mockwitz and "friends".....the friends part especially.  As I said in previous discussions where you were involved......"I'm done".

Admittedly you have got some peoples' feathers ruffled..

Umm Robin does not hate the gays! I know this because I am bi-sexual and despite my situation being different she has treated me with the most respect and has always been there for me when I needed her! I'd give her an A++++ in customer care and service! She has been sooo good to me, I have no complains!! You haters need to stop being mad and making up lies just cuz your spells ain't working out cuz y'all ain't trying hard! And Nora stop with the lies!! Move on with your life! Karma ain't pretty! I recommend Robin to all! :) and no I ain't a paid "actor" nor a spy! Just a paying customer!!

Cathy Jean Mockwitz-aka Robin Bird

Cathy kohavah Jean Mockwitz. English was last name, or astill may be. She has several aliases.
http://www.myspace.com/434468725

Before one posts that another is crazy or a pathological liar they better check al the crazy posts they themselves have made. Don't know what is wrong with this woman Cathy, but her white supremist views and gay bashing is appalling. Her highly judgemental way of being is plain to see. She has placed herself on some self imposed pedastal that she is a chosen one. Something is freaky weird. She breeds hate and contention on various sites around the web. That's why she is given warnings, her threads are shut down and questioned as to whether as to whether she has multi personalities. I'm not a doctor, but she does  appear to have something very wrong by the tone of her postings. I have quite a few links..it goes on and on. B. chit crazy stuff at that.

To her mods and hanger-ons. Yeah I curse a little, but at least I don't STEAL, LIE, AND BREED HATE, or like she think I am some supreme being in life. I like a person for what's on the inside, not by their skin color, educational background or what their sexual preference may be.

When Maya has some come to her defense we are bitter and should stay out of it. The funny thing is we do have happy lives because we aren't profitting from the pain of others. Robin and her bunch attacked Maya mightly on two forums and a month later it's still going on. Some of us have had enough of it. It's no threat it's a promise I can show how Robin is duping you. As stated before one can't life a life of dulaity. All I am going to do dierect others to Robin's posts. She made them, so there is no threat, just exposure of HER posts.

Robin did not reimburse Maya and you can believe that all you want. Robin/Cathy show that Paypal proof. It comes with a transaction number and date and I will ask Maya herself to show me. I doubt you have it, unless you have learned to scam so well you will fabricate that too. This character assassination of a person who has already been hurt needs to stop. I guess Robin you missed the boat on this one thinking Maya wasn't up to your intelluctual level due to her language. I saw on the post L.D.S. forum you stated you don't love someone if they aren't on your intelluctual level or rise to it, your gay bashing, the whole bit. Get over yourself. The ROR isn't censored. Must irk the heck out of you and your snippy mods.

Hello,

Some people (Robin's family and friends...) are calling me a liar... Well, Could you prouve that I am ? Cause I can prouve that Robin is one ! She is hiding on fake name to fix her reputation... She can't reply to my email.

I'm French and yes my english is not well, but how much language do you speak ? I can speak 4, and even if I don't spoke them well, I don't care, that is not the point.

How can you call Robin as this ! She is not god, not an angel. An angel help, is kind, helpful... and certainly not asking for money....

You Robin :

* insult people,
* don't make the job,
* don't reply
* Scream horrible name against me
* don't refund money
* insult all people who defending me
* has no shame of what she did

For all of that I wish you to feel my pain, to have in return all the pain you did to me and other people. All dirty money you take from us, will be take one day, and you will feel on this time all regrets.

Dave "Owner" of the company.

No Robin purpose to me a refund. She even reply to my demand.

Don't call her nice or watever name like that.

She write on a forum to go kill myself. Is that sweet ?

Don't add lies she is just a bad woman with bad intention.

I strongly urge anyone who comes across this report to understand that Robin is a scam. please please do not waste your money on her. she doesnt even cast spells. believe me i know this. and also she pretends to be all nice and caring - in real fact she knows that being nice is the only way people will trust her. anyone who shows compassion to someone will get trust isn't it? it doesnt mean that she means it. she's just a clever business woman who knows how to manipulate people when they're at their lowest in life. I really dont know if karma will get her...i've seen alot of people who have done wrong get away scott free. but all i can sincerely say is do not fuel her money making business ..PLEASE! if you really want something good to come your way, then give money to charity or to someone who needs it - maybe thier blessings will actually make your situation better. but do not trust robin, she is fake and she is a liar.

Who is Cathy?

Karyn, you are sounding like a broken record.

Whatever has transpired between Robin and Maya should be left between them. Your cussing and threats make you look like an idiot.

It is not helping anyone, other than to make Maya and her friends look immature. If there is nothing constructive to say, which I have not seen much of here, then don't say anything. It looks as if there'smore than one person here who needs help. The universe will sort it out itself, in the meantime, the word karma isbeing thrown around like a beachball and it does go both ways. So, who is going to be the bigger person and let this go?

Every single person. Who has posted something here, especially those against Robin are making themselves look.like immature idiots and that is helping no one's cause and it sure doesn't solve anything either. It is quite obvious and apparent there are people out to get her. The language and threats and whatnot are a huge flashing neon sign that you are very bitter people.

Some who input are wishing sickness and bad things and then throwing the karma word around, and obviously need to realize karma works both ways.

Threats should not be taken lightly by the person being threatened, not should they be throw out because you have no other valid point to make. Again, it shows a lack of maturity and self respect. I hope you all find the inner peace you need.

At this point, it all needs to stop and be worked out between the two people this situation concerns, Maya and Robin.

Well Kayla you might be correct, I probably shouldnt be calling her names but then again you shouldnt either. I always promised myself that I wouldnt stoop that low and be a keyboard commando that you clearly are. Regardless of my beliefs Robin is my dear friend and confident and she probably still would be even if I had no occult beliefs. I know the full story of this Maya person, and all I know is Robin was very fair to her and offered her a refund which she accepted. So I dont know what else to tel you. You can call me all the names that you wish but I will still  love Robin all the same. I only pray that you can develope a self love of your own so you wont hate us so much.Blessings, Dave

Maya is from France and probably uses an online translator. It will not be perfect English. You need to shut your mouth. If the posts from Robin (Cathy) come out let's see who will be laughing then. This is what people get when they attempt to crucify someone (Maya) some of us have come to care quite a lot.

Oh yeah, karma!

You better call off your posters off of Maya,  Cathy or I am about to let your chit hit the fan, you freaking loon. Keep on attacking Maya and I will let your own posts come back to attack you. Peeing in a hole n good stuff capice? I have everything in my inbox-links included. This will stop. I promise, for unlike you I don't play games.

First off, Maya, you sound like a complete idiot in your post. Your grammar is horrible and you are the one that is a pathological liar, insensitive and every other name that you called her. I have been a client of hers since last November and she is the kindest, sweetest, most sensitive person that I have ever met. She is professional and honest and is a close personal friend of mine. I bought a few spells from her that are in different stages of manifestation. You need to get a life, learn how to write and shut your d*n mouth.

I am "Wholly" disgusted that I ever referred you Robin Bird- C.J.M., if you get my drift.  God does not love someone's guts (as you put it) who lies.

Robin, C.J.M. "and friends", Mary or whomever else the voices tell you you are.

Before you and your group go calling someone crazy.. beware your posts on the Net were not hard to come by. Something is surely amiss. One can not live a life of duality. I am not a mean spirited person, but will be forced to publish your postings if you don't quit. I don't know if you are hella crazy and truly think you are God's messenger and or a con artist in full, but this needs to stop. One can not be a zealot in Christian teachings, make postings against the occult, then turn around and take other's money for spellwork. To quote you and "Mary." SHAME!

are you high on coccaine or marijuana? lol.  you didn't make any sense at all. please re-check your work, and use spell check and grammar in the correct way...life is enough without having to understand someone who cant express themselves properly with good english. many thanks..and also please seek help if you need to - im sure a doctor can help you. with love. 

After reading all of the complaints, comments, and resolutions I have to say, I am starting to consider the initiate of this reports situation. First, Robin's work is guaranteed bc she seems to know she can do it. In this line of work, miracles can happen in time "with time" for the time invested on both ends.

I wonder did the woman have her life on resume ready paper, did the woman give her best valued trust in believing it could work. I cannot participate in believing Robin would be this wrong if defensiveness was used as a repremand to her powerful push for this client that has not seen results. Some people understand God's work and the work therefore to called High Priestess. It takes care, LOve, and a lot of prayers also. Free will is not just a cop out of line. Things do take time and unless the person's situation was a lot less connected to negative at the point of sale on spiritual items, how on heaven's Earth can a rip off be legit. I hope this makes sense. I know there are a lot of people that cast and see no results, but this woman, Robin has faith, a purpose to help certain people. Not everyone is supposed to benefit from God's willingness to all Robin such great energies to then fail once or twice must mean that what you asked for you got and Robin is not to be charged. Case Closed. Rapturing Robin still. An angel sent tools her property for God's Reigning his Son's days. The Ressurection King will be here and Robin will be Blessed and His Priestess's pRiestess. Because Jesus's Woman loves her guts to defend for God now. Thank you for giving me the opportunity in letting you all know that not everyone is meant to receive. Even with magic Love and God's Will still prevaileth over ALL magick dones. I will continue to trust Robin's work for it has broadened not scammed. God is mysterious and you call people a scam because in this case you are unsucessful with following through yourself, not the son.

Well dear, you seem to have been upset that the password was changed. And thoughts will also bring about karma, so wishing illness and bad things on people will also come back on you and shows a great level of immaturity.

yes karma love - no wonder shes always sick and keeps breaking her computer...its called what goes around comes around love. shes as fake as ashra and as fake as plastic surgery. shes a fake. period. and oh for the record - no one is dying to read your stupid message board. its so freakin dumb and misleading. im sure many people hope robin gets even sicker!

Due to the fact that certain people were taking information from the board and repeating it on that BS topix forum. THEmessage board is a PRIVATE board for her clients to have discussions without fear of others band ashing them or making fun of the. There is nothing to hide there, only to protect the privacy of the clients. Itstates clearly it is a privately place for people to talk privately without fear.

So if you happen to have a problem with not receiving the new password, there is most likely a reason. So if you or anyone else has a problem with that, then you probably should have thought twice about bashing Robin in. Public manner and jumping on the Maya/Karyn bandwagon and repeating information that was discussed privately. Yes, Karma...dear sweet karma.

It is Robin's website and for her to want to protect the right to privacyof her clients is her right.

please please do not buy from robin...shes changed her password on her page so no one can read her message board.highly unprofessional unethical and yes her illnesses are due to karma...i hope all our negative energy towards her makes her more ill...

I also went to Robin and her Coven for help and its been four months now! SHe never responds to anything and the people on her board that works with her are rude. She promises things that cant happen like she can make your breast larger, make your ex contact you etc. On her love spells she says its guaranteed to work, however its not guarnateed! She tells you after 3 moon cylces she will recast for you for free and after 6 months the same and on and on.

Mary, Julie and the rest of them has been workign with her for years and still arent back with their exes. Either they are jsut as crazy or she is paying them to spy and see what people are sayinf. She just said a few weeks ago her daughter Audra is about to open her own online hypnosises business LOL another way to rob you of your money. Yesterday she said she went to her attorney to because people that have concern are harrassing and bullying her. I doubt it Robin does anything except LIE about EVERYTHING.

Satisfied customers have every right to respond accordingly. It isn't much different than you and Shana, I mean agumella going to Robin's forum and repeating things on Topix.

Maya, I mean Nora, posted a list of her spells on Topix. They add up roughly to $250.00. Granted the computer is a gift, but if you give someone a gift it is poor taste to ask for it back, so I am not sure really how the amount of $1000.00 come up.

I also noticed Karyn questioned your comment about getting a refund, as in did you or didn't you.

I don't see how Nora can prove Robin didn't cast herspells. I know she cast mine. I can't prove it, but I have had results. Any service can work for some and not others, just as medicine can help some and not others. Of course many people don't want to listen to instructions or doh t, that is no one's fault but their own. It is too bad casters didn't have a forum to give feedback for clients so they would know which ones were troublemakers to stay away from. That would be a hoot, huh?

All of this crap just needs to stop. Nora needs to move on. She and you and your little gang might think you are hurting Robin, and you probably are, but you sure as hell aren't helping yourselves either. I just see a group of unhappy people who may feel happy you are hurting others, but when that's over, you will have to find someone else to torment so you can feel good again. And I sincerely hope Nora gets the help she so desperately needs.

It's interesting that as soon as this report went up there were lots of people jumping to Robin's defence.  I know for a fact that this is because Robin and her team are aware that people are cottoning on to her scam!

I have purchased spells from Robin and this is not just about her inability to cast a spell but also about her very sly way of drawing people in.  She is a FAKE, bottom line.  In the beginning she sends all these lovely emails pretending she cares about your situation, she even sends a 5p /10c charm in the post BUT it's all part of the SCAM.

Once she has your money and responded once or twice you don't hear from her again.  She makes up so many lies about technology etc and I hate to say it as she is once a woman I like but I can't help but wonder if all of her illnesses (that she claims she has) are karma catching up on her.

She may well have all of these so say technology and health problems but if that was the case you would stop taking more clients and deal with the ones you have and sort out your issues.  You wouldn't keep taking on more and more work, taking more money (that could pay for your tech problems) and stop making big promises you cannot keep.

Please please if you are intending to purchase spells from Robin from her website or her ebay name hansel_and_gretal DONT DO IT.

You will end up wasting your time and energy on something that cannot be achieved thus hurting yourself in the process as you deal with whatever problem you thought Robin might be able to solve in the process.

Please take heed, you have been warned, I am talking from experience.  Also please look out for Robin's new site about hypnosis that I have heard about as I am sure that will be a scam fest too!

Hello Maya,

I'm Mandy and I am a root workers.

I can told you that Casters have to reply to any question of his custumers, to make the spell work, he has to be close, and make the custumers confident. If he don't the spell won't work.

I heard a lot about Robin, I know that she has a ebay account. In my opinion she sells too much spells, I don't know how she can cast all of them cause to cast it ask a lot of energy.

I don't like claims, cause it destroy and touch all magic workers.

So I demand to Robin, to consult her guide and to apologize to Maya, and to take one week off to think about all claims she has or receive from Maya and other unhappy custumers.

It won't be good for Robin to have make that to a custumers, and without any apologize, the spirit will turn on Robin and make her have only bad energy.

So for the good of a lot of people custumers of Robin, and for the good of Robin spirit I beg you to contact you custumers Robin. To apologise for your attitude and Schedule a day to cast all spell. Then you will have to pray and to drink a lot of water to purify.

You Maya have to accept the apologize and forgive Robin for what she did. Hate won't be helpful to you. In new orlean people who don't forgive someone who apologize take more pain from the spirit.

Please work on a peace way.

I have been a client of Robin since March this year. Yes, the communication hasn't been the best lately, but she's been going through a lot and she's explained times and times again, can't you people read? My spells are yet to manifest, but I've seen movement. I would never ever ever believe what this person has said about Robin, because this is not like her at all.

She has never suggested I order another spell, she's even advised me not to do so if I don't feel like it. She's offered free recasts, and many times when I feel down she takes the time to write a long email to cheer me up, which she doesn't have to do, because she's not my mum or my psychologist. Oh btw, that's a good idea- why don't you stop going to spellcasters and book an appointment with a psychiatrist?

P. S. Yes I am a real person and I use this nicknames on all forums and message boards that I am a member of. I've heard some say think it's silly to use the same nickname, but I do not have anything to hide and I am not into stabbing people in the back (unlike some). I would even reveal my real name and address if I was sure my target would never see it! :)

I have worked with Robin and her coven for quite some time.  I have had many spells cast.

I had the longer hair spell done.  My hair grows much faster than it did previously and I have less hair loss.  It is thicker and fuller.

I have had the weight loss and smaller waist spells.  I lost three sizes in four months and it continues to work.  I also find I no longer crave junk foods and actually look forward to daily walks.

Money and job spells, got promoted and a pretty good sized raise.  I had actually forgotten about those and it came about unexpectedly.

Love spells.  I have have progress but not full manifestation at this point.  But we currently are speaking and getting along.  I didn't really expect much because he is such a stubborn person, but I am amazed at how far we have come up to this point.

I don't usually have a problem with emails as I do not feel the need to email her very often.  I know she is a busy person and doesn't have time for alot of chit-chat.  That is okay though.   When I do email her I don't usually wait more than two or three days for a reply, unless it is a weekend, and it states clearly on the home page of her website what her schedule for emailing is. 

Also, I found that one of her moderators, Julz, is very helpful and does alot of angel healing and such at no charge.  She is a wonderful person to be able to talk to and is always good for cheering someone feeling down.

I personally highly recommend her.

This is not the Robin I have been working g with. I have had many successes and some partial successes and some atoll in the works. I don't worry because of the o es that have manifested.

I would never trust anyone else with my spellwork. She has helped me I. More ways than just the spells. She is a kind and caring person.. I have learned much from her and have been a more positive outlook on life I. General.

I am thankful to Robin and her coven. Yes, at times her emails have been slow, but I know she was sick as well. I am patient. I know there are some that need more help Nd comfort than I, but without fail she does reply. I am not her only client and It is understandable as she has so many, with good reason..

I have to put in my 2 cents, which is more than a post about casting spells is really worth.

Hey Mambo, Mambo Italiano, hey Mambo...

Spell casters! PHOOEY!

Whatta buncha maroons!

I have been a customer of Robin's since the end of October last year and in all my dealings with her to date, found that sometimes communications can be slow at times but she does communicate back.   She has been, though in all fairness, hampered by technology issues as well as health issues which she did communicate back to people.  

She also states certain guidelines to trying to achieve success and as obvious from the poster, could not follow basic rules. 

Also, Robin has never in all my time dealing with her suggested any additional purchases and when I decided to purchase something and had second thoughts about it (in fact, I was purchasing a lot of things at one point and she advised that I don't need it etc), that she immediately granted me a refund.

I have no doubts that she does her best in trying to cast things, and she does not guarantee things will complete in 3 moon cycles.    Also, she maintains trying to be positive and following the Law of Attraction.

If anyone looks at any other caster, they also at the base say the same things.. not obsessing, being positive, etc and that is the key to success.   The person who wrote the original post sounds like she had a lot of issues and is struggling to be positive.

I've dealt with other casters and find that Robin does try to spend time helping others as best as possible (a lot more time than other casters I've used who would just stop answering if you ask too many questions).

I hope this post helps.

I have been a client of Robin's since August last year.. I can testify that Robin is a true spellcaster.. she is the real deal.. In that time, I have recieved caring & prompt customer service.. she's go's above & behind to help her customers, unlike other spellcasters Robin truly cares! I have had love spells cast & remain positive that they will work :) A few weeks back I had the "Larger Breast" spell cast & I am already seeing visable results.. I must admit I was a little skeptical about it at first but yep to my amazement it's definately working!! Not only am I getting results but I have become a better more focused positive person since knowing Robin I have met alot of wonderful people & I'm grateful & Thankful that I have found a true spellcaster to help me with my love situation :) I know that I'll be seeing results from my love spells soon as so many of Robin's other clients already have! I'm excited & I am seeing signs everyday that success is on it's way :) Robin is the only spellcaster that I have felt physical side effects from the spells.. & that is proof enough for me to stay with Robin & her Coven because I know they will get the job done for me!

Hi I have also worked with Robin on spells and I agree with maya, her customer services is so bad. She only responds when you're a newbie and when you buy a couple of spells from her she just responds with automated emails. I have not seen any of my spells work and it has been almost a year. Not only that, I dont even think she casts all of them - if any, as she didnt respond to my hair growth spell. She blamed it on her emails being lost - but this is the 21st century - she should really get with the technology. Shes highly unprofessional - i do not recommend her at all.