EBAY Seller "EJNRN", PayPal, And EBAY scamming people for shipping insurance fraud ripoff Baltimore Maryland

Ran across this on my search today for Ebay ripoff reports.  Wow.

First I found it hilarious that someone (schiperno) would post to a report that is over seven years old, hahaha!  And the play on the name -schiperno- is funny too, as it seems they are playing towards their not being a shipper (shipper no), as in they are bad shippers.  ?? 

This -schiperno- also has it wrong where she calls -CynUSA-, as in re-reading the complaints and rebuttals, that person's user name here was actually -Cin- and the parentheses denote the country they are from, which here looks like it's the USA.  -C- and -Cin- are the same person, but that was never denied. 

It was also rather odd to me, that reading the feedback given to the original poster, that looking at it now it seems as the other nay-sayers were indeed the same writers (Lori and Robert).  Neither Lori nor Robert seemed to want to state where they are from, yet Cin did (Hatfield, Arkansas), so that makes Cin appear more credible to me.  And the other writers who were for Cin seemed to have a different writing style, so I don't believe they are the same person - but I can't say the same for ejnrn, Lori, or Robert.  Questionable for sure.

I too have had a few problems with bad Ebay sales/sellers.  It's as if people don't have any respect for others anymore; no pride of business professionalism or ethics.  Their moral compasses are off.  Speaking for myself, I would never have allowed the situation (with the customer being dissatisfied after providing proof of a problem) to get to this point; I would rather maintain good customer relations and would have sent the buyer -Cin- a new item.  As it was, there were hard feelings on both sides, but the buyer wins in my book because he/she tried to resolve it in a mature way initially.  Seems the seller, -ejnrn-, got caught in a mistake and instead of admitting it and making it right, blew the thing out of proportion. 

Schiperno states they have had recently or are apparently having now a dispute with -CynUSA-, so I ask if that is true that they post their transaction info here, for all to see.  It would grant credibilty to -schiperno- that as I see it right now there is none.  Schiperno may have something with -CynUSA-, but I doubt it is actually with -Cin- from USA, who was the original poster.  Or better yet, perhaps -Cin- will find this and do a rebuttal. 

So, -schiperno-, show us your proof.  :-)

That is very nice of "Rita" to write as "CynUSA" to congragulate herself on her own false humor. It's sad that people learn that she is crazy only after she files false ebay claims. :(

I just had an ebay transaction with Cyn and I was not surprised to find this rip off report. I will take the time to file one of my own against her. CynUSA is a rude bully. I also want to point out that a lot of her feedback looks embellished and I reported this to ebay today. 

Like in the case I am currently in with Cyn, in this ripoff report I feel like she is not being reasonable and looking for any excuse to get a full refund over these inexpensive items. She is taking advantage of ebay policies and trying to scam myself and others by the looks of it. :( 

Oh, Robert, I'm sooo glad you found me! Goody, goody! You are SUCH a smart little detective oh, but wait! You didn't really detect' anything did you, since I included the item number of the transaction in my statement. Duh! And who says I have to be or act in a professional manner? Tsk, tsk. So you think I care about being put on your BBL, you self-righteous twit?? Don't flatter yourself.

Knowing you have the same viewpoint as good ol' EJNRN, I wouldn't want to buy from you anyway. And puh-lease stay OFF my side! I surely do not need the likes of YOU rooting for me - this isn't about my needing or wanting 'cheerleaders'; it's a potential rip-off warning for others. Oh, and you better watch yourself there, bud you sound a wee bit angry yourself! Ha!

Sounds like you think you're Mr. eBay. Well by golly, let's check you out, sugar-dumplin', and see just how flawlessly perfect you are? I dare you to substantiate your self-appointed right to judge. Put your words where your mouth is got the guts to post a transaction ID for one of the items YOU sold on eBay??? If you don't have anything to hide, that is

I have nothing to hide, nor am I ashamed of anything I've written or said here. You betcha I'm angry, and with 100% good reason too. You are apparently one of those types who seems to think that the amount one pays for a service should be proportional to the service one receives? Hmmmm. So, that means, say if you go to an automatic car wash and spend $5.00 getting your car washed, and while going through it one of the armatures falls off on your new car and causes $500.00 damage, do you think the owner is liable to you? If so, for what amount?

According to you, not even the $5.00 you paid. You find out later that the car wash owner didn't have insurance, so you can't get your money back that way, but YOU have automotive insurance but wait! Unfortunately, your insurance agent forgot to add the $1.45 extra you paid the week before to your policy that covers accidents like this. When you complain to the agent when he tells you you're not covered, he says sorry, he forgot to add that special insurance (he is such a busy, busy agent after all!); but, he does promptly refund your $1.45! So, under the circumstances, where do you think you stand?

According to your outlook, getting the $1.45 back should be good enough, right? The point here, Robert, is that it doesn't matter the *amount* of the damage, how it was damaged, or even how reputable your insurance agent OR the car wash owner is; the point is, you paid money to someone to INSURE against damage, and you should rightfully expect that person to take responsibility if/when damage occurs.

Although it isn't anyone's fault per se that the accident/damage happened (i.e., the car wash owner nor the insurance agent caused the damage), damage has nonetheless been done and you rightfully expect compensation. EJNRN didn't actually cause the damage (at least I don't think so, but the seal MAY have not been on in the first place and putting tape on the cap COULD have prevented potential leakage), she just wasn't prudent or diligent about her responsibility to ensure she put on the insurance I paid for.

And as a side note: I'll wager little miss EJNRN will definitely be more careful in the future about making sure that when someone pays extra for insurance, she'll put it on!!! ;-)

Yes, I have had a prior bad experience on eBay with another seller besides EJNRN as you saw, Robert. And who cares about how much EJNRN sells vs. how many times I've bought??? So what if she's got x-amount of feedback? Good for her for being such a busy little selling bee. I only buy on eBay under this ID. AND, unless you know both sides of the story, do not assume you know the facts nor presume to pass judgment until you do; anyone can say anything true or not and there isn't much that can be done about it other than having feedback mutually withdrawn in case of negativity (in fact which you conveniently chose to overlook: she has one, I don't, and if for this not being withdrawn her feedback percentage would be lower than mine!).

You seem to be the type of person to find someone guilty before the whole story is told; you make your mind up and that's that. People have a tendency to think the worst of people anyway, and with the brief space in which to create an explanation on eBay feedback, there's not too much one can do to describe fully the situation.

Everybody makes mistakes (I'll even bet you do too, Robert!). As I mentioned in my statement though, it's what one DOES about them that counts. Do you shrug it off, or do you try to correct it and/or make it right? I tried to work with EJNRN for several days towards a mutually-agreeable resolution. I didn't post negative feedback until just a few days ago two-1/2 weeks AFTER the purchase I'd given her plenty of time and opportunity to prove she was truly sorry and let her make amends. She adamantly believes she did nothing wrong (read her statement!), and feels that returning the shipping insurance of $1.45 is good enough. It's not.

I paid $20.05 for two bottles of new, unopened product. I received only one the other was damaged beyond use. She forgot the insurance, so I asked for some sort of restitution for the damages that was only fair so how is this possibly construed as being unreasonable on my part? And how is it that I'm the one that has to suffer for her mistake? The cost of the item nor the amount of damage is not the point. How can she in good conscience claim I'm the scam-artist?

That was actually how I'd described her actions in my dispute to eBay and PayPal, and she basically cut & pasted what I said about her to them in her negative feedback about me! She'd also nabbed the statement hard to deal (with) from another seller who'd left negative feedback for me (over a year ago, by the way) after they sent me damaged/used goods (supposed to have been new, it had missing parts that rendered it unusable, and I paid EXTRA for FedEx overnight shipping which they actually sent slow-boat USPS that took almost a week, and BTW I never did get my *promised* refund after I returned the item; then they called me 'rude and hard to deal with' after I returned the item and they never refunded my money so I had my CC do a chargeback). Good grief, she can't even come up with an original, negative-feedback slam! Yeah, I guess I'm hard to deal with especially when you try to rip me off!

So, your perception of my communicating to EJNRN my expectation that she make good on the damaged item was RUDE? *News flash! Reality check!* It's called BEING ASSERTIVE - but you have a right to your perceptions and opinions even if they happen to be wrong. Do you think if I had been nicer she would have made restitution? I don't not for a moment this isn't about being nice or rude. EJNRN was wrong when she forgot to add the insurance. Had she responded promptly in the first place with an offer to make it up to me (as a responsible, trustworthy, and honest person would have), this whole thing could have worked out quite well and would not have escalated to where it is now. I am tired of some people working so hard to take what others have away from them be it their money, self-respect, dignity, sense of worth, etc. I refuse to continue to let others take advantage of me.

You, Robert, may let someone get away with $1.45 today, but perhaps tomorrow it may be $145.00, next year, $145,000.00 it adds up! Where do you draw the line? I've drawn mine, and if you think it's RUDE of me to stand up for my rights and beliefs, then I feel sorry for you.

Robert, if you want be a loser, go ahead; if you want to tuck your tail and slink off, fine with me, but you then do not have the right to judge or condemn others if they take pride in their values enough to speak out. It's the people like YOU who make life miserable for others by being a wimp and not being assertive and protest when people take advantage of you. I think it's because people are so focused on their busy, busy lives that they can't (or won't) take any extra time out of their already stressful, hectic lives to stand up for themselves any longer, and it's like a disease that is spreading and running rampant in this country.

And because they are so busy and stressed out, they become lazy and/or forgetful; they start dropping the ball, things that are important to others are not so important to them, their focus is on themselves, not others. This is just not acceptable in certain situations (like a business you pay to perform a specific service for example), and more and more people especially if they have any sense of conviction - are becoming less and less tolerant of this lazy attitude.

And yes, unfortunately the reprobates, crooks, scam-artists, and degenerates (and those newbies just starting out in this direction some typically found selling on eBay) in this world are just waiting to take your money. But Robert, don't you dare be RUDE to them when they do!

Oh, and Robert I hope you have a mah-velous day yourself, sweetie! ;-)

Hello Lori. I'm very happy to hear you are such a responsible seller. I wish more people would go by your example.

Unfortunately, in your pointing out about my giving bad feedback after getting good feedback, you failed to mention one minor detail: the fact that the poster of that feedback has a 95% rating, and that their negative feedback was soooo bad that they have elected to make their feedback "private", which means nobody can see how bad it is. This particular seller had given me good feedback because I was prompt in responding to their email and paying for my purchase.

However, I paid extra for *overnight* shipping on this item, they collected the extra fees, but did not send the item out for over 7 days; and when they did, it was regular mail (not what I paid for). Additionally, they refused to refund my overnight shipping fees. Yet another fine seller on eBay! May even be related to EJNRN...

Actually, there were more than 14 eBay transactions for me, maybe you should count them again: there were a total of 16. Perhaps you need to pay more attention to details before pointing out faults of others.

People take eBay feedback WAY too seriously; you can lie, make incorrect assertions, and state issues/problems that are erroneous; who's to tell the difference? You do not know for a fact what transpired with these purchases in my case, you only see what was left in the feedback, and like most ignorant individuals (Robert included), you presume to make judgments based on what you see and not on what you know.

I give what I get, and expect to get what I give. If you do me wrong, I'm not going to let you get away with it - plain and simple.

Good for you that you've only had the one negative experience! You are among the minority. I don't buy on eBay very often because of these and other bad experiences that not only I have been subject to, but what others have gone through also.

There are a lot of horror stories, and there are more and more each day (just do a search here on eBay!). I do shop at regular stores, but sometimes they don't have what I want, so I've gone to eBay (as well as other e-trading sites) and have taken my chances. That doesn't mean I have to give up my right to speak out when I'm wronged though, as you seem to think.

And you are most welcome! I am glad to know I've done you a favor; perhaps the good eBayers will continue to be "good", and hopefully the bad and irresponsible eBayers will get a clue and straighten up. I'm sure if enough people stand up for themselves and take affirmative action when others wrong them, then perhaps all of us can then begin to expect better treatment. :-)

I also went in and looked up the information that you gave, and compared both her feedback and yours. I noticed that even when you received good feedback, you added a negative comment about the seller. How nice. Fourteen transactions, and you were unhappy with three of them?

I've been Ebay-ing for several years, both as a buyer and seller, and in all of that time and in all of my transactions, I've only had ONE negative experience. Maybe you should stick to shopping at your local dollar store and stay away from Ebay. At least in this, if you're unhappy with the merchandise, you don't have to buy it in the first place.

Thanks for your original post, you did a lot of good ebayers a favor, we have a good idea of who we're working with, and who we shouldn't be.

Hey Rita, s'up?? :-)

It just so happens we have one of those trees in our area too. It's a little bit of a jaunt, but hey, I'm ready for a road trip!

And BTW, you already have something you can feel great about your intelligence and sense of humor! I love it.

Thanx again for the info. Shopping, shopping, shopping! ;-)

Oh, Robert, I'm sooo glad you found me! Goody, goody! You are SUCH a smart little detective? oh, but wait! You didn't really ?detect' anything did you, since I included the item number of the transaction in my statement. Duh! And who says I have to be or act in a professional manner? Tsk, tsk. So you think I care about being put on your ?BBL?, you self-righteous twit?? Don't flatter yourself. Knowing you have the same viewpoint as good ol' EJNRN, I wouldn't want to buy from you anyway. And puh-lease stay OFF my side!

I surely do not need the likes of YOU rooting for me - this isn't about my needing or wanting 'cheerleaders'; it's a potential rip-off warning for others. Oh, and you better watch yourself there, bud? you sound a wee bit ?angry? yourself! Ha! Sounds like you think you're ?Mr. eBay?. Well by golly, let's check you out, sugar-dumplin', and see just how flawlessly perfect you are? I dare you to substantiate your self-appointed right to judge. Put your words where your mouth is? got the guts to post a transaction ID for one of the items YOU sold on eBay??? If you don't have anything to hide, that is?

I have nothing to hide, nor am I ashamed of anything I've written or said here. You betcha I'm angry, and with 100% good reason too. You are apparently one of those types who seems to think that the amount one pays for a service should be proportional to the service one receives? Hmmmm.

So, that means, say if you go to an automatic car wash and spend $5.00 getting your car washed, and while going through it one of the armatures falls off on your new car and causes $500.00 damage, do you think the owner is liable to you? If so, for what amount? According to you, not even the $5.00 you paid. You find out later that the car wash owner didn't have insurance, so you can't get your money back that way, but YOU have automotive insurance? but wait!

Unfortunately, your insurance agent ?forgot? to add the $1.45 extra you paid the week before to your policy that covers accidents like this. When you complain to the agent when he tells you you're not covered, he says sorry, he forgot to add that ?special? insurance (he is such a busy, busy agent after all!); but, he does promptly refund your $1.45! So, under the circumstances, where do you think you stand? According to your outlook, getting the $1.45 back should be ?good enough?, right?

The point here, Robert, is that it doesn't matter the *amount* of the damage, how it was damaged, or even how ?reputable? your insurance agent OR the car wash owner is; the point is, you paid money to someone to INSURE against damage, and you should rightfully expect that person to take responsibility if/when damage occurs.

Although it isn't anyone's ?fault? per se that the accident/damage happened (i.e., the car wash owner nor the insurance agent ?caused? the damage), damage has nonetheless been done and you rightfully expect compensation. EJNRN didn't actually ?cause? the damage (at least I don't think so, but the seal MAY have not been on in the first place and putting tape on the cap COULD have prevented potential leakage), she just wasn't prudent or diligent about her responsibility to ensure she put on the insurance I paid for.

And as a side note: I'll wager little miss EJNRN will definitely be more careful in the future about making sure that when someone pays extra for insurance, she'll put it on!!! ;-)

Yes, I have had a prior bad experience on eBay with another seller besides EJNRN as you saw, Robert. And who cares about how much EJNRN sells vs. how many times I've bought??? So what if she's got x-amount of feedback? Good for her for being such a busy little selling bee. I only buy on eBay under this ID. AND, unless you know both sides of the story, do not assume you know the facts nor presume to pass judgment until you do; anyone can say anything ? true or not ? and there isn't much that can be done about it ? other than having feedback ?mutually withdrawn? in case of negativity (in fact which you conveniently chose to overlook: she has one, I don't, and if for this not being withdrawn her feedback percentage would be lower than mine!).

You seem to be the type of person to find someone guilty before the whole story is told; you make your mind up and that's that. People have a tendency to think the worst of people anyway, and with the brief space in which to create an explanation on eBay feedback, there's not too much one can do to describe fully the situation.

Everybody makes mistakes (I'll even bet you do too, Robert!). As I mentioned in my statement though, it's what one DOES about them that counts. Do you shrug it off, or do you try to correct it and/or make it right? I tried to work with EJNRN for several days towards a mutually-agreeable resolution.

I didn't post negative feedback until just a few days ago ? two-1/2 weeks AFTER the purchase ? I'd given her plenty of time and opportunity to prove she was truly sorry and let her make amends. She adamantly believes she did nothing wrong (read her statement!), and feels that returning the shipping insurance of $1.45 is good enough. It's not. I paid $20.05 for two bottles of new, unopened product. I received only one ? the other was damaged beyond use. She ?forgot? the insurance, so I asked for some sort of restitution for the damages? that was only fair? so how is this possibly construed as being ?unreasonable? on my part? And how is it that I'm the one that has to suffer for her mistake?

The cost of the item nor the amount of damage is not the point. How can she in good conscience claim I'm the scam-artist? That was actually how I'd described her actions in my dispute to eBay and PayPal, and she basically cut & pasted what I said about her to them in her negative feedback about me! She'd also nabbed the statement ?hard to deal (with)? from another seller who'd left negative feedback for me (over a year ago, by the way) after they sent me damaged/used goods (supposed to have been ?new?, it had missing parts that rendered it unusable, and I paid EXTRA for FedEx overnight shipping which they actually sent slow-boat USPS that took almost a week, and BTW I never did get my *promised* refund after I returned the item; then they called me 'rude and hard to deal with' after I returned the item and they never refunded my money so I had my CC do a chargeback).

Good grief, she can't even come up with an original, negative-feedback slam! Yeah, I guess I'm hard to deal with? especially when you try to rip me off!

So, your perception of my communicating to EJNRN my expectation that she make good on the damaged item was RUDE? *News flash! Reality check!* It's called BEING ASSERTIVE - but you have a right to your perceptions and opinions? even if they happen to be wrong. Do you think if I had been ?nicer? she would have made restitution? I don't? not for a moment ? this isn't about being ?nice? or ?rude?. EJNRN was wrong when she ?forgot? to add the insurance.

Had she responded promptly in the first place with an offer to make it up to me (as a responsible, trustworthy, and honest person would have), this whole thing could have worked out quite well and would not have escalated to where it is now.

I am tired of some people working so hard to take what others have away from them ? be it their money, self-respect, dignity, sense of worth, etc. ? I refuse to continue to let others take advantage of me.

You, Robert, may let someone get away with $1.45 today, but perhaps tomorrow it may be $145.00, next year, $145,000.00 ? it adds up! Where do you draw the line? I've drawn mine, and if you think it's ?RUDE? of me to stand up for my rights and beliefs, then I feel sorry for you.

Robert, if you want be a loser, go ahead; if you want to tuck your tail and slink off, fine with me, but you then do not have the right to judge or condemn others if they take pride in their values enough to speak out. It's the people like YOU who make life miserable for others by being a wimp and not being assertive and protest when people take advantage of you.

I think it's because people are so focused on their busy, busy lives that they can't (or won't) take any extra time out of their already stressful, hectic lives to stand up for themselves any longer, and it's like a disease that is spreading and running rampant in this country. And because they are so busy and stressed out, they become lazy and/or ?forgetful?; they start dropping the ball, things that are important to others are not so important to them, their focus is on themselves, not others.

This is just not acceptable in certain situations (like a business you pay to perform a specific service for example), and more and more people ? especially if they have any sense of conviction - are becoming less and less tolerant of this lazy attitude.

And yes, unfortunately the reprobates, crooks, scam-artists, and degenerates (and those ?newbies? just starting out in this direction? some typically found selling on eBay) in this world are just waiting to take your money. But Robert, don't you dare be RUDE to them when they do!

Oh, and Robert? I hope you have a mah-velous day yourself, sweetie! ;-)

You're right on all counts.

Now, a blatant hint for finding that soap... I have a "Dollar Tree" growing in my back yard. Perhaps you might find a "Dollar Tree" growing in yours too. I bet that you could do a net search to see if a "Dollar Tree" is near you. Grins*

At any rate, my offer still stands. I'd be more than happy to send you some of that soap. In fact, I'd feel great for doing a good deed.

Smiles,
Rita

After reading your report, Im glad that I found out your Ebay ID.

I was on your side until I saw your orginal response to the seller, her follow responses, and your responses to her. She responded in a professional manner, asking for proof of the damage.

Yes, she made a mistake regarding the shipping. Sometimes it does happen. I do not believe she "scammed" you for the dollar and change for insurance. Your initial request to her, as well as your responses, were unprofessional at best and downright rude.

Your feedback, compaired to hers, says a lot

YOU: Total Feedback: 14, Feedback score: 88.9%, 2 negatives (both for rude behavior), as well as a rude comment to another buyer because he was a "slow shipper."

HERS: Total Feedback: 574, Feedback score: 99.1%, with 1 negative in the last years (guess whos?)

I'm putting you on my BBL. No one should have to deal with an angry person like you.

Have a wonderful day!!

Hi Rita, thanx for the info. Discount Junky, how cute!

Yes, I'm sure you are correct in that this Seller was just plain careless - on a couple of counts. As you mentioned, the time it would have taken her - two seconds - could have possibly prevented this from happening. Another few moments of her time to apply the shipping insurance would have pretty much guaranteed her a hassle-free transaction also.

However, based on her defensive comebacks and inability to acknowledge responsibility for her actions makes me believe that 1) she doesn't care and/or isn't intelligent enough to concern herself with the end result of her actions, and/or 2) there is a high probability she's trying to collect additional monies by defrauding people who pay extra for shipping insurance and then not applying it; she just pockets the extra money and goes on her merry way in her little fantasy world.

I'll just wager that she only refunded my insurance money because she got caught this time - not that refunding AFTER THE FACT is acceptable or reasonable of course - she's just a delusional person who doesn't think twice about the consequences of her actions.

No, I didn't realize this product could be obtained in bar form! I would love to have a source though, as the liquid form isn't found easily (and I can guarantee I won't be buying from good 'ol ENJRN anymore, nor would I suggest that anyone else do so either!) and the bars would apparently be much easier to obtain.

Thanx for the tip - I'll look around but perhaps instead of sending me one (an offer I appreciate BTW), could you mention the name of the store you find it at maybe the first few letters if you don't want to mention the whole name. :-)

Thanx for taking the time to write it's nice knowing someone else is like-minded, and the info you shared will be put to use.

Happy shopping, Discount Junky! ;-)

Dang Buyer, you're relentless but I love it. Now, my thoughts on this item you bought and it might validate you more.

I'm a discount store shopper and junky and what I find, more often than not, is that products like this one have loose fitting caps. This may be perhaps one reason some products are sent to a discount stores in the first place. I have found many products, like this one, oozing right on the shelf because of poor fitting caps. Compound this, with damage or weight on the item and what you get is a mess of trouble.

I'm betting that your seller got this item relatively cheap (slated for discount store or discount selling method of some sort) because it didn't meet with standards for normal sale. (poor/faulty packaging) and seller is selling this item for more (naturally) for profit.

Not only did your seller not insure the item(s), she perhaps could have avoided all of this by simply tightening the caps. And though your idea of taping the item is a good one, I think that if the seller would have took 2 seconds to tighten those caps, there would be no need for this rip-off report.

On the bright side of all of this. That seller must be in a world of disarray to not be will to make good on such a small amount of money so you can bet she has some way bigger problems other than being a crock.

Last but not least, I've never stumbled across this product that you bought in liquid form but did you know that you can buy it in bar form? I buy 120g/4.25oz of this soap for 1 buck a bar at a store near me and they always have it in stock. I love this soap. Heck, I'd be willing to send you some for free.

Rita