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Complaint Review: Vickie Rice Psychic and Youtube Personality - Houston Texas

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  • Vickie Rice Psychic and Youtube Personality PO Box 335 Pasadena Tx 77501 Houston, Texas United States of America

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Vickie Rice of Houston Galveston and Pasadena Texas sued a man named Alexande.r Grant. In the complaint Vickie said Acutus Ptomey was harrassing her. Vickie got the filing fee waived by saying she only gets social security and sells stuff on ebay for charity. Vickie committed the fedral offense of perjury when she failed to tell the court about all of cars and the house she lives in and the trailer she owns. Vickie also didnt tell the court about all her businesses including the cleaning business the gift shop and the other corporations she owns. The us attorneys office has been notified and hopefly there will be justice finally. Vickie was sued for nonpayment of a student loan and she lied then too.

Vickie Rice lies are as follows: she stalked alexander grant yet sued him for harrassment; she posted all over the internet that rebekkahs kids were involved in child porn; she called the jobs of several people she met on the internet and tried to get them fired;she has contacted strangers and told them lies about people she met on the internet; she contacted the fbi and had a kid on youtube declared a terroist. Vickie is bitter and this all seems related to the fact that as a woman she has never been accepted by anyone. At one point she was going to bars claiming to be a tansexual woman. Since Vickie was born a woman the transgendered too rejected her.

Vickie gives readings all of them are about hurricanes earthquakes and natural disasters. She predicted Hilary Clinton would get the nomination and she was wrong. Avoid this woman on facebook(margerie brubaker or margie brubaker) because if u dont avoid her u will be sorry. She destroys lives.

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#16 REBUTTAL Individual responds

IF YOU READ ANYTHING READ THIS BY VICKIE RICE I RE-BUTT THIS WOMAN AND HER DISRESPECTING ME !!

AUTHOR: Truth Be Told! - ()

POSTED: Friday, May 17, 2013

I Vickie Rice,  am going to re-butt this woman here and her original report.

The report she made above about me I re-butt below this report I answer her trash talking.

Hey guys this is one person that is making numerous rip-off reports about me in the rip-off reports using different log in names.

For you disrespecting me ....kick rocks .....   So if u want to continue with a hate campaign on me and my friends ....just push on ! I'll be doing my next Rip Off report pointing out your name and comments for everyone to see ! Cheers !

It's Sick!  This ONE woman bought a reading from me in 2005 and slandered me and has been slandering me writing these reports. She has been slandering  literally many many people on these boards. ( Many businesses especially !! and many intuitives especially!!) I have so many copies of so many complaints she has written about strangers on the internet she will never even meet.)  

lMAO this woman's identity has become known to me she is from Montgomery, Alabama and her initials are B.J.C.   I know this TRASH TALK really sucks but it's tricky situation.  I am going to wait a while and she if she Trash talks more and then expose her the same way she is trash talking about me lol. Watch what I'm about to dump on her for talking sh*t !!

We'll I am going to answer her original complaint because I am getting messed with from her.  She is watching me like a Frigg'n Hawk. I'm Sick of it !!   I know nobody else is dealing with this crap this woman is doing to me ...  Its UNFAIR, screw this woman !!  She gets a thrill out of attacking strangers on the internet.  I have never met her and she will never meet me !!  This woman is using free speech to make strangers suffer and then laughing about it !!

Guys ...  I come under heavy attacks from All fronts because of the line of intutitive work I do.  It comes with the territory I guess.  If you truly support me I am going to need your help in spreading the word about my Channels !   Improv777 on youtube and Improvvid Art on FaceBook.  https://www.facebook.com/improvvidart.art?ref=tn_tnmn  if re-dacted just look up improvvidart art on facebook!  And Improv777 on youtube!

I have to answer these complaints, its just people fighting and throwing up threats to slander more.  I know, it sucks, but answering them is the only way to shed light on this sometimes !  

 

( YOUR ORIGINAL REPORT BELOW )

Vickie Rice is a psychic that operates on ebay and has her own website. In 2005, she did a reading for me and I thought she was accurate so I consulted her again. In May or June she gave me a FAKE reading. When I told her the reading was fake, she started screaming at me and became belligerent. DON'T WASTE your money on this lady--she is nuts! Her ratings got so bad on ebay that she now has a "private" feedback rating.

Bettie
Tuscaloosa, Alabama
U.S.A.

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Ok, I Vickie Rice am going to answer this woman's complaint

( She said )  Vickie Rice is a psychic that operates on ebay and has her own website. In 2005, she did a reading for me and I thought she was accurate so I consulted her again.

( Vickie Answers )  We'll why the hell did you dis-respect me slandering my name with all kinds of crap all over these boards if you felt in your own words the reading was accurate???  What the hell is wrong with you????  

( She said )  In May or June she gave me a FAKE reading. When I told her the reading was fake, she started screaming at me and became belligerent.  ( Vickie Answers ) The reading was not fake as you say at all. I just did not give you false hope.   Everything I said in the reading in 2005 has come to pass including the collapse of the economy.  You approached me in a negative mood. I have your original paypal transaction receipt MS. C !!!  And you were in a bad mood approaching me with a chip on your shoulder because other intuitives displeased you , and you have wrote a ton of reports about them and I have them all along with many other reports on strangers you have written.   When you got nasty with I simply chose to end the reading. Why did you come at me with such dis-respect in the first place after acknowleging that the first reading I gave you was accurate in your own words.   I'll answer you.  Many people use intuitives for HOPE.  You came to me for hope and since I have the Christian ethic I do give hope because our lord Jesus Christ can make anything possible.  But you came to me for hope and I told you our Lord Jesus Christ was coming back soon to end this non-sense on earth with all the evilness and it would not be long that everything would go down, the economy, everything, the truth.  And I told you to put first the Lord Jesus Christ, always first.  and you decided to make the initial report about me on the Rip Off reports because you did not like hearing my reading.  I had never even heard of the Rip Off reports before until you slandered me on it.  You instigated it.  I did not scream at you either, I did not become belligerent either, I just wanted to end the abuse by you and end the reading as soon as possible because it became apparent to me you had some deeper psychological issues. I know now you have as I have screen capped many many slanderous defamation libelous reports you have done on perfect strangers that you will never even meet,  such as myself and many people. You have been using these boards to slander and defame many many people and I have copies of those reports !! And you don't even use your real name you use several different alias to do it !!

( You said Bettie )  In May or June she gave me a FAKE reading. When I told her the reading was fake, she started screaming at me and became belligerent. DON'T WASTE your money on this lady--she is nuts! Her ratings got so bad on ebay that she now has a "private" feedback rating.  ( Vickie Answers )  My feedback was excellent. it was excellent but because there was a  dis-ingenuine psychics on ebay at that time that was jealous and wanting more reads, they  bought readings from me for the only purpose but to leave negative feedback. At the end of that  I had about 4 negative feedbacks all from the same competitive psychic whom bought them solely to leave that negative feedback.   Bettie in my opinion your the one that has psychological problems for using psychics purely for hope when your hope should be stead fastly placed in the Lord Jesus Christ First and Foremost !!

HEY GUYS ... I HAVE A NEW PAGE ..**YOUTUBE PAGE**   IMPROV777 .... CLICK ON THE NAME BELOW AND SUBSCRIBE !! IMPROV777 AND BE SURE TO CHECK OUT MY FACEBOOK PAGE  ( IMPROVVID ART)     https://www.facebook.com/improvvidart.art?ref=tn_tnmn  

MUCH LOVE !!!   AND LIGHT TO ALL!!!!!

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LMAO ! MORE TRASH TALKING ABOUT ME SOMEONE WALKS INTO A POLE!  I know it sucks but it's the internet!!

TRUTH is Treason in the Age of Deceit !

HEY GUYS ... I HAVE A NEW PAGE ..YOUTUBE PAGE IMPROV777 .... CLICK ON THE NAME BELOW AND SUBSCRIBE !! IMPROV777 !!http://www.youtube.com/user/improv777

http://www.youtube.com/user/improv777

 

' YOUR REPORTS DON'T EVEN MAKE SENSE'
 
( You Said)  Vickie Rice of Houston Texas had no proof that this man had AIDS, yet she told anyone who would "listen" on the internet that he had AIDS.  She admitted she called one person's job trying to find them.  What she fails to mention is that she has called several people's jobs trying to get them fired.  These were people that did not give her their name or contact information.  Vickie Rice stalked these people and, then, when they wouldn't entertain her strange behavior, she called their jobs and lied on them trying to get them fired. 

(Vickie Answers)W
OW!!!!  You really got a good smear campaign going but you sure are anchoring allot of mis-truths to justify your vindetta. lol.   Just for laughs I'm going to answer your ridiculous claims,
I would never tell anyone on the internet that someone had aids and exploit such a serious issue to harm or ridicule or inflict emotional distress over something that someone just can't help. Your truly a sick person to exploit this kind of a story to anchor yourself righteous in justification of your hate campaign.   ( You said )  She admitted she called one person's job trying to find there name, the answer is yes but it was not Alex Grants job it was a public television station he did an hour show for free PBS, he had not even been there when I called for the past 12 years, it was to identify him because of his electronic threats he sent me via private message that are at this time in the hands of the FBI. She could not have gotten him fired he had not even worked there in 12 years and he was never a paid employee he took advantage of a free hour weekly for him to do a pbs show.   Of course he did not give his name or contact information lol he was sending me death threats lol.  You may deem my behavior strange behavior but really sending death threats over the internet as Alexander Grant did, is truly over the top behavior.

( You said ) 
Vickie  denies saying that Rebeccah's children were involved in child porn, yet Vickie Rice admitted she will "continue to post lies" on the internet if Rebekkah, Acutus, Sharlolaid, and several others "didn't stop cyberbullying her." 
 
(Vickie Answers)  Nobody wants to continue that kind of TRASH LIAR. Your the first one who needs to stop talking it too! Why would I want to continue to engage these people that are cyber bully's in the first place. I don't.  HUH!! WHAT?!?! YOUR TALKING TRASH AGAIN. Seems like it would eventually suck for you to keep talking so much trash!!  The court dismissed my lawsuit for failure to provide service meaning he did not receive proper notice, ( the complaint in plain english for you.) It is well documented that youtube user McWhaltes89 made the allegations about Rebecca being involved with child porn not me cause I did'nt know anything about it and can neither confirm or deny it. I do know however she is in my opinion a dangerous person that has issued allot of threats against several youtubers. That's why Rebecca has an open investigation file with the FBI.  I produced emails that I contacted Alex Grant sending him formal DMCA notices and Cease and Desist contact notices.  Your statement does not even make sense. You really suck too defending this Cyber bully whom stole my videos and edited them out of context to taunt and harrass and ridicule me. You know alot of teenagers have committed suicide because of behavior like his on the internet. Your clearly really a sick person to make those remarks.  
 
(You said )
So, let's recap:

Vickie Rice has posted that a lady is a child porn producer
Vickie Rice has posted that a man has AIDS
Vickie Rice has lied to a federal court and subjected herself to prosecution by the Texas United State's Attorney's Office

The list goes on and on...
 
(Vickie Answers)  Your really over-reaching in your hate campaign and smear attack, lol  I never said Rebecca was a child porn producer at all lol.  Youtube user McWhaltes89 did lol.

I would never exploit such a serious issue as AIDS.  I would never inflict emotional distress on someone exploiting such a serious issue. I do remember back in 2007 someone asking me about his behavior because Alex Grant was stalking me and harrassing me even at that time the questions was asked to me by a myspace user could he be so mean spirited because he was ill with perhaps AIDS related dementia, I said I don't know.  So your really over-reaching with your anchoring here on this topic which really is sad.
( You said ) I lied to a Federal Judge asking for assistance to waive the filing fee for a Federal Copyrights Lawsuit?  We''ll that happened nearly 3 years ago. Where's the perjury indictment??
Threre is none, because your a liar.  I did not lie on the application and was eligible. According to you I'm a rich a*s lol and I own major coorperations because I filed go no-where dba's lol.
Your remark about me committing perjury is, " sick and inaccurate" as a matter of fact your whole report is "sick and inaccurate"  must suck to be you.  The list does not go on and on
because I am getting tired of your slander and defamation and I know who are. I know your initials are B.J.C. and you live in Montgomery. Alabama I know where you work and who you are, and if you keep it up I am going to file rip off reports about you instead of wasting my time answering your non-sense sick inaccurate claims. Like I said and it's worth repeating. It must really suck to be you. 

 You are so Busted!  LMAO!  ( STOP THE TRASH TALK ARE GET IT BACK ON NEW REPORT OF YOUR OWN Bettie C. lol.

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LMAO ! MORE TRASH TALK!! ( Vickie Responds)

AUTHOR: Truth Be Told! - ()

POSTED: Saturday, May 11, 2013

Vickie Responds to your allegations

LMAO ! MORE TRASH TALKING ABOUT ME SOMEONE WALKS INTO A POLE!  I know it sucks but it's the internet!!

TRUTH is Treason in the Age of Deceit !

HEY GUYS ... I HAVE A NEW PAGE ..YOUTUBE PAGE IMPROV777 .... CLICK ON THE NAME BELOW AND SUBSCRIBE !! IMPROV777 !!http://www.youtube.com/user/improv777

http://www.youtube.com/user/improv777

 

' YOUR REPORTS DON'T EVEN MAKE SENSE'
 
( You Said)  Vickie Rice of Houston Texas had no proof that this man had AIDS, yet she told anyone who would "listen" on the internet that he had AIDS.  She admitted she called one person's job trying to find them.  What she fails to mention is that she has called several people's jobs trying to get them fired.  These were people that did not give her their name or contact information.  Vickie Rice stalked these people and, then, when they wouldn't entertain her strange behavior, she called their jobs and lied on them trying to get them fired.  (Vickie Answers)
WOW!!!!  You really got a good smear campaign going but you sure are anchoring allot of mis-truths to justify your vindetta. lol.   Just for laughs I'm going to answer your ridiculous claims,
I would never tell anyone on the internet that someone had aids and exploit such a serious issue to harm or ridicule or inflict emotional distress over something that someone just can't help. Your truly a sick person to exploit this kind of a story to anchor yourself righteous in justification of your hate campaign.   ( You said )  She admitted she called one person's job trying to find there name, the answer is yes but it was not Alex Grants job it was a public television station he did an hour show for free PBS, he had not even been there when I called for the past 12 years, it was to identify him because of his electronic threats he sent me via private message that are at this time in the hands of the FBI. She could not have gotten him fired he had not even worked there in 12 years and he was never a paid employee he took advantage of a free hour weekly for him to do a pbs show.   Of course he did not give his name or contact information lol he was sending me death threats lol.  You may deem my behavior strange behavior but really sending death threats over the internet as Alexander Grant did, is truly over the top behavior.
( You said ) 
Vickie  denies saying that Rebeccah's children were involved in child porn, yet Vickie Rice admitted she will "continue to post lies" on the internet if Rebekkah, Acutus, Sharlolaid, and several others "didn't stop cyberbullying her." (Vickie Answers)  Nobody wants to continue that kind of TRASH LIAR. Your the first one who needs to stop talking it too! Why would I want to continue to engage these people that are cyber bully's in the first place. I don't.  HUH!! WHAT?!?! YOUR TALKING TRASH AGAIN. Seems like it would eventually suck for you to keep talking so much trash!!  The court dismissed my lawsuit for failure to provide service meaning he did not receive proper notice, ( the complaint in plain english for you.) It is well documented that youtube user McWhaltes89 made the allegations about Rebecca being involved with child porn not me cause I did'nt know anything about it and can neither confirm or deny it. I do know however she is in my opinion a dangerous person that has issued allot of threats against several youtubers. That's why Rebecca has an open investigation file with the FBI.  I produced emails that I contacted Alex Grant sending him formal DMCA notices and Cease and Desist contact notices.  Your statement does not even make sense. You really suck too defending this Cyber bully whom stole my videos and edited them out of context to taunt and harrass and ridicule me. You know alot of teenagers have committed suicide because of behavior like his on the internet. Your clearly really a sick person to make those remarks.  
(You said )
So, let's recap:

Vickie Rice has posted that a lady is a child porn producer
Vickie Rice has posted that a man has AIDS
Vickie Rice has lied to a federal court and subjected herself to prosecution by the Texas United State's Attorney's Office

The list goes on and on...
 
(Vickie Answers)  Your really over-reaching in your hate campaign and smear attack, lol  I never said Rebecca was a child porn producer at all lol.  Youtube user McWhaltes89 did lol.

I would never exploit such a serious issue as AIDS.  I would never inflict emotional distress on someone exploiting such a serious issue. I do remember back in 2007 someone asking me about his behavior because Alex Grant was stalking me and harrassing me even at that time the questions was asked to me by a myspace user could he be so mean spirited because he was ill with perhaps AIDS related dementia, I said I don't know.  So your really over-reaching with your anchoring here on this topic which really is sad.
( You said ) I lied to a Federal Judge asking for assistance to waive the filing fee for a Federal Copyrights Lawsuit?  We''ll that happened nearly 3 years ago. Where's the perjury indictment??
Threre is none, because your a liar.  I did not lie on the application and was eligible. According to you I'm a rich a*s lol and I own major coorperations because I filed go no-where dba's lol.
Your remark about me committing perjury is, " sick and inaccurate" as a matter of fact your whole report is "sick and inaccurate"  must suck to be you.  The list does not go on and on
because I am getting tired of your slander and defamation and I know who are. I know your initials are B.J.C. and you live in Montgomery. Alabama I know where you work and who you are, and if you keep it up I am going to file rip off reports about you instead of wasting my time answering your non-sense sick inaccurate claims. Like I said and it's worth repeating. It must really suck to be you. 

 You are so Busted!  LMAO!  ( STOP THE TRASH TALK ARE GET IT BACK ON NEW REPORT OF YOUR OWN lol.

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VICKIE RESPONDS TO THE ALLEGATIONS

AUTHOR: truthful truth - (USA)

POSTED: Tuesday, January 01, 2013
Huh??? What ??  YOUR TALKING TRASH !

One of my victims?  Huh??? What ??? YOU REALLY ARE TALKING TRASH !

It's the other way around you tried to victimize me in everyway.  I stood up for myself and will continue too !   I sure will NOT let you victimize me without standing up for myself !!!!  You always allure to my victims when in fact you and your buddies tried to victimize me and I stood up to you and will continue to with new reports about you!!! 

Everyone on Facebook and Youtube is so aware of internet harrassment and stalking now, this is no longer 2007 !!!!!!!!  AND YOU KNOW WHAT???????  THOUSANDS OF RIP OFF REPORTS OR FILED AGAINST PEOPLE JUST LIKE YOU WHO DO IT. 

YOU ALWAYS MENTION YOUR DOX BEING DROPPED.  WELL IF YOU WERE'NT DOING SOMETHING YOUR  SO ASHAMED OF LIKE HARRASSING  YOUTUBERS OR FACEBOOKERS,  YOU WOULD'NT CARE BUT YOU USE AN ALIAS SO YOU CAN HARRASS AND INTIMIDATE OTHERS.  HUH???? WHAT????   NO  YOU ARE THE ONE THAT IS,  " CLEARLY SICK" FROM THE GET GO.  AND YOU KNOW AS WELL AS I DO THAT THIS REPORT YOU MADE IS  " SICK AND INACCURATE."  YOU ALSO KNOW THAT YOU WERE THE INSTIGATOR TO ALL THIS.   I never understood really what the blame the victim mentality was until someone in law enforcement explained it to me.  Only problem is I am not going to be your victim.


ALSO,  You said I that the FBI was really not involved with your Felony Willful Copyright Infringement and your threats via the Youtube social network??? 

I know that you have learned differently now after your tdawg3337 youtube account .


FOR ANYONE ELSE READING THIS, COME TO MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL YOURSELF AND SEE WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT,   COME SEE FOR YOURSELF.

HERE IS A LINK TO MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL:   

http://www.youtube.com/user/improv777?feature=watch

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#13 REBUTTAL Individual responds

VICKIE RESPONDS - IT'S AN INFO WAR REALLY IS

AUTHOR: RJS - (USA)

POSTED: Thursday, November 01, 2012
THERE ARE FORCES OUT THERE, DEMONIC FORCES OUT THERE THAT DO NOT WANT INFORMATION DECIMENATED BECAUSE THEY ARE OF THE DARK-SIDE.

IT REALLY IS AN INFO-WAR AS ALEX JONES PUTS IT.  IT REALLY IS.

DEMONIC SOULS THAT ARE LOSING INFLUENCE AND STRENGTH UPON THE EARTH NOW WANT TO TRY VERY HARD TO DEMONIZE THE GOOD SOULS.

THAT IS REALLY AT THE CORE WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT.

COME SEE VICKIE'S CHANNEL YOURSELF IMPROV777 AND MAKE UP YOUR OWN MIND.

WATCH HER VIDEOS ON IMPROV777.

HERE'S THE LINK:      http://www.youtube.com/user/improv777?feature=watch
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#12 Consumer Comment

This the thrown off woman stalking Ms. Vickie

AUTHOR: Lamar - (USA)

POSTED: Monday, October 29, 2012

This a link to tha thrown off woman stalking Ms. Vcikie casue she stalk youtube users . she dont even know Ms.Vickie and she nevar met her. She stalk youtubers. Here she go look on this links

http://www.ripoffreport.com/rebecca-young/liars/internet-internet-729c1.htm

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VICKIE RESPONDS WE ARE IN THE END OF DAYS

AUTHOR: RJS - (USA)

POSTED: Friday, October 26, 2012
We are all living in the END OF DAYS. Our Lord and Savior JESUS CHRIST IS RETURNING VERY SOON and he said he left as a lamb and would return as a LION.

The time is very short. The time is very very short before our Lord Jesus Christ returns with his judgement upon the earth.

I feel it will be exactly as stated in the Bible in the Book of Revelatoins and I feel that time will begin before the year 2012 is over with a comet impact followed by nuclear war.

THE TIME IS VERY VERY SHORT. EVERYONE NEEDS TO GET RIGHT WITH THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.

COME TO VICKIE'S YOUTUBE CHANNEL AND SEE THE LATEST!!!!!

SEE WHAT SHE IS REALLY ALL ABOUT NOT THIS DEFAMATION AND LIES BUT COME FIRST HAND AND SEE WHO SHE IS AND WHAT SHE POSTS AND WHAT HER YOUTUBE CHANNEL IS ALL ABOUT.

HERE IS A LINK TO THE CHANNEL:     http://www.youtube.com/user/improv777?feature=watch

THE YOUTUBE CHANNEL VICKIE USES IS >>>>     Improv777

http://www.youtube.com/user/improv777?feature=watch

COME SEE FOR YOURSELF!!!!!  THE TIME IS SHORT.  THE MESSIAH IS COMING!!!!!!

THE LORD JESUS CHRIST IS COMING!!!!  COME QUICKLY LORD JESUS COME QUICKLY!!!!!!

REVENGE BELONGS TO THE MESSIAH!!!  LOVE THE LORD LIVE FOR THE LORD YOUR GOD!!!!!

The writers of the New Testament, as they give an account of the sufferings of Jesus, so they appeal to the books of the Old Testament, as containing prophecies which speak of the Messiah's sufferings; from whence they reasoned with the Jews (Acts 17:2, 3), opening and alleging, that Christ must needs have suffered and risen again from the dead; and that that Jesus whom they preached was Christ. They aver, that the divine Spirit in the prophets (1 Pet. 1:11) testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ unto them, as well as the glory that should follow; and that when they spoke of the sufferings of Jesus, they said (Acts 26:22, 23), none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say, should come to pass; and that, in what the Jews did to Jesus, was fulfilled, what (Acts 3:18) God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets. Nay, Jesus himself, in reproving some of his disciples for their dullness and unbelief, said unto them (Luke 24:25-27), O fools and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken; ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory? therefore beginning at Moses, and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures, the things concerning himself; that is, those things which chiefly concerned his sufferings. Now, seeing there are such manifest appeals to the hooks of the Old Testament, as containing prophecies of a suffering Messiah, which had their fulfillment in Jesus, my business in this chapter will be,
First, To consider those prophecies which speak of him as such, and attempt to approve that they belong to him, and him only.
Secondly, To point out the several parts of his sufferings according to these prophecies. And, Thirdly, Take a view of the several circumstances which were to attend those sufferings. First, I shall consider those prophecies which speak of the Messiah as suffering, and attempt to prove that they belong to him, and him only. Now the principal prophecies which speak of this affair, and are generally understood to belong thereunto, are contained in Psalm 22 and Isaiah 53 which I shall particularly consider.
1st, The Twenty Second Psalm is commonly understood by Christian interpreters to be a prophecy of the Messiah as suffering; and indeed it cannot with any tolerable color or pretense be applied to any other. That one single individual person is spoken of, throughout the Psalm, the whole series and connection thereof manifestly shew, and therefore the whole body of the Jewish nation, [1] or the congregation of Israel, cannot be intended. Besides, this person is not only distinguished from the viler sort of the people, by whom he was reproached and reviled, verse 6-8 but also from those who are called the brethren, the congregation of Israel, and those who fear the Lord, verse 22, 23 before whom he was to praise the Lord. And as a single person, so a suffering person is certainly intended, as is manifest from his being represented as one forsaken of God, despised by men, encompassed by his enemies, by whom he is cruelly racked and tortured, his bones dislocated, his hands and feet pierced, and he even brought to the dust of death. Now this single and suffering person can be no other than the Messiah; some of the Jewish writers, [2] indeed, would have Esther to be the subject of this prophecy, to whom not one sentence, nor single word in the whole Psalm, can with any tolerable shew of reason be applied. Others, and with much more appearance of truth, would have David intended; but yet there are some things in this Psalm, which, in their plain, obvious and literal sense, cannot be applied to him, as the shooting out of the lip, and shaking the head at him, by wicked persons, using at the same time that very form of words mentioned in verse 8 the dislocation of his joints, verse 14 the piercing of his hands and feet, verse 16 the parting of his garments and casting lots upon his vesture, verse 18 neither of which were true of David, but were to be accomplished in the Messiah, and had their full and literal completion in Jesus, as will be more particularly observed hereafter. And that the Messiah is intended in this Psalm, may be collected from the title; upon, or concerning Aijeleta Shahar, which respects the subject thereof, and may be rendered, the hind of the morning, which well agrees with the Messiah, and is expressive of his swiftness and readiness in appearing for the salvation of his people, and with our Jesus, who in the very morning of his infancy, was hunted after by Herod, and his agents, to take away his life; Others render it the morning star, [3] which is one of the titles of Jesus (Rev. 22:16). The Targum expresses it by the daily morning sacrifice, which was typical of the Lamb of God which taketh away the sin of the world, and is very justly taken notice of here, where the sufferings of the Messiah are so particularly set forth, which were to be a propitiatory sacrifice for the sins of men. Besides, the person treated of in this Psalm, is one in whom the happiness of God's people was much concerned; by whom the meek were to be satisfied, and enjoy eternal life, as the consequence of his sufferings, and therefore are called upon to praise the Lord on that account, verse 23-26 Moreover, the conversion of the Gentiles through the preaching of the gospel, which was peculiar to the days of the Messiah, was to follow upon the sufferings of this person. Nay, even some Jewish writers [4] have been obliged to apply some parts of this Psalm to the Messiah, which they evidently saw could not in any tolerable sense be referred to any other.

 2dly, The fifty-third chapter of Isaiahis another prophecy, which is generally understood by Christian interpreters of the Messiah and his sufferings. The modern Jews, indeed, not being able to make it suit with their now generally received notions of the Messiah, have endeavored to substitute some other person as the subject thereof. It would be both tedious and needless to reckon up the several different persons to whom they endeavor to apply this prophecy; all disagreeing with each other; which shews the wretched uncertainty they are under, since they have left the true, plain, obvious, and anciently received sense thereof; some referring it to Abraham, others to Moses, others to Ezra, others to Zerobabel, others to any righteous person in general; all which senses are weak, ridiculous and impertinent, there being no manner of foundation in the whole prophecy for an application of it to any of those persons, and therefore deserve not our consideration.


The principal opinions, and which seem mostly to prevail among them, are, that this prophecy is to be understood either of the body of the people of Israel in general, or of Josiah or Jeremiah, in particular; though in each of them they go contrary to their own Targum, [5] Talmud, [6] and other ancient writings of theirs; [7] there are some [8] who strenuously contend for the former, namely, that the whole body of the people of Israel, in captivity, is intended, which can never be the true sense of the prophecy; for one single individual person is spoken of from the beginning to the end thereof, who is manifestly distinguished in verses 4-8 from the people of Israel, whose sins and sorrows he was to bear, and for whose transgressions he was to be stricken and wounded. Abarbinel would have king Josiah here intended, who was slain by Pharaoh Necho at Megiddo, and supposes that it is the report of his death which is complained of in verse 1. as what none would believe, by reason of his celebrated piety; he farther supposes that he is said in verse 2 to grow up as a tender plant, because of his early devotion, and the great progress he made therein; that he is said to be despised, verse3 because he was killed by Necho, a contemptible man; that he was a man of sorrow, because often sick and troubled with the gout; [9] that it appears he bore the griefs of the people, verse 4 since the sins of the nation caused his death, verse 5 that it is a mistake that the people were much addicted to the law in his time, for he says, verse 6 all we, like sheep, have gone astray, and that God would revenge his death upon many nations. But Abarbinel here contradicts himself, for he at other times, with other Jews, would have the prophecy understood of the people of Israel, and therefore not of Josiah; besides, here are several things said relating to Josiah, of which some are true, others notoriously false, and destitute of all manner of proof; it is true indeed that he was a very pious prince, and devoted himself very early to religion, but then it is notoriously false that the people were not much addicted to the law in his time; for it was in his time that the book of the law was found, the covenant between God and the people renewed, a general reformation obtained, and such a passover kept as never had been since the times of the judges: it is also false, that the sins of the people were the occasion of Josiah's death, but rather his own rashness, vanity, and ambition, in meddling in an affair to which he did not seem to have any real call; and it is equally as false, that God revenged his death upon many nations; nor was Pharaoh Necho, by whom he was slain, a contemptible person, but a very potent and considerable prince; his saying that none would believe the report of Josiah's death, wants proof, as well as his representing him as a sickly person, and subject to the gout.

But to let pass these things, as not worthy of consideration, it may easily be observed, that there are many things in this prophecy which can by no means agree with him; as that he did no violence, the contrary is evident in the case of Pharaoh-Necho; that he bore the sins of others, and died for them, and made his soul an offering for sin; that his days were prolonged, that the pleasure of the Lord prospered in his hand; much less could it be said of him, Who shall declare his generation? Others [10] would have Jeremiah intended, in which they are followed by Grotius, and this the author of The Scheme of Literal Prophecy seems to incline to: But the characters given of the person, who is the subject of this prophecy, by no means agree without Jeremiah, for this person is represented as one without guilt, entirely free from sin, and who had never gone astray, like other men; as one that was to suffer for the sins of others, which sufferings he was to bear with the utmost patience; nay, even to intercede for those transgressors who were the cause of them; and though he was to be cut off, or die, yet he was to live again, have a large number of disciples and followers, and be very much exalted and dignified; which cannot be said of Jeremiah, who was subject to the same sinful infirmities as other men are, was not wounded nor bruised, nor did he die for the sins of his people; and as for the sufferings which he underwent for them, he was far from bearing them with patience; for he even cursed the day wherein he was born, [11] on the account thereof; he prayed that he might see the vengeance of God upon them; that God would pull them out like sheep for the slaughter, and prepare them for the day of slaughter; neither had he a large number of disciples, nor was he exalted and extolled, as this person is represented to be. But all and every part of this prophecy exactly agrees with the Messiah Jesus, whose first appearance was mean and abject, on the account of which he was despised by men, by whom he suffered many things, which he bore with inexpressible patience, and at last death itself, which was an expiatory sacrifice for the sins of all his people, which being laid on him, he bore in his own body on the tree, and being raised from the dead, is now exalted, extolled, and made very high, at his Father's right hand, where he ever lives to intercede for transgressors; and has ever since had a large number of disciples, who have embraced his doctrines, and espoused his cause; a seed which have served him, and will continue to do so, till time shall be no more.

 Secondly, Having considered those two remarkable prophecies which speak of the Messiah as suffering; I proceed to consider the several parts of his sufferings, as they are pointed out in those prophecies, and observe their fulfillment in Jesus.
1st, He was to undergo much reproach from men, to be despised, (Isa. 53:3; Ps. 22:6) and rejected by them; nay, to be accounted a worm and no man. How much Jesus was slighted and disesteemed by the men of his generation, on the account of his mean parentage, education, outward poverty, the despicableness of his followers, etc. is notorious enough; as well as how he was flouted, jeered, and scoffed at, when upon the cross, by his enemies, who used the very words in Psalm 22:8 wagging their heads at him.

 2dly, He was to be smote and buffeted; this judge of Israel was to be smote with a rod upon the cheek, (Micah 5:1.) as Jesus was, both by the Jewish and Roman soldiers, which he very patiently endured; and, as was prophesied of him (Isa. 1:6), gave his back to the smiters, and his cheeks to them that plucked off the hair, and hid not his face from shame and spitting.
3dly, He was to suffer death for the sins of his people; he was not only to be wounded (Isa. 53:5, 8, 12; Ps. 22:15) and bruised for their transgressions, but to be cut off out of the land of the living, his soul was to be poured out unto death, and he brought into the dust thereof; accordingly Jesus died for our sins; (1 Cor. 15:3) according to these scriptures.

 4thly, As he was to die, so he was to die the death of the cross, which might be collected from the piercing of his hands and feet, the disjointing of his bones, and the prodigious fever which was to seize him, and dry up his strength like a potsherd, and cause his tongue to cleave to his jaws, all which circumstances, usually attending the crucifixion of persons, were prophesied of in the twenty-second Psalm. Now it is manifest enough that Jesus was obedient unto death, even the death of the cross; though it was very unlikely that he ever should have died in that manner, that not only being a Roman punishment, but also what was not usually inflicted on persons gully of the crime with which he was charged, and for which he was condemned; but so it was, that these prophecies might be fulfilled, as well as his own predictions be verified.

 5thly, He was to be buried and laid in the grave, which was the finishing part of his humiliation. Isaiah says of the Messiah, (Isa. 53:9) that he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death, which words may be rendered thus, he put, or placed his grave with the wicked, but, his tombstone, wytmb [12] or sepulchral monument, was with the rich; which was literally fulfilled in Jesus, whose grave, though it was put under the care and custody of the wicked soldiers, who were placed there to watch, lest the disciples should remove the body, and say he was risen from the dead, which circumstance attending his interment, might seem somewhat dishonorable, yet, there being a famous tomb erected over it, at the charge of Joseph of Arimathea, a rich man, rendered his burial honorable, which honor was done him, because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth. Hereby another prophecy appears to be fulfilled, which speaks of the Messiah's burial, in Isaiah 11:10 and his rest shall be glorious, this may very well be understood of the grave, which is a place of rest, where, as Job says, Job 3:17 The wicked cease from troubling, and the weary be at rest. The Vulgate renders the words thus, erit sepulchrum ejus gloriosum," his grave shall be glorious." I have already proved, that this prophecy belongs to the Messiah. Abarbinel owns it, [13] and not only so, but also acknowledges, that this clause may be expounded of the Messiah's honorable burial. The author of The Scheme of Literal Prophecy ought to take this as a full answer to his exception, out of Grotius and White, against the prophecy in Isaiah.

 To conclude this head; the occasion, nature, efficacy, and intent of the Messiah's sufferings, as delivered in those prophecies, appear to be the very same as those of the sufferings of Jesus, delivered in the New Testament. The occasion of the Messiah's sufferings was not to be for any sin of his own, but for the sins of others, for which his death was to be a propitiatory sacrifice, whereby sin was to be abolished and done away, peace and pardon procured, and an everlasting righteousness brought in, and this upon the account of all the people of God; for he was to bear the sins of many, and be stricken for the transgressions of his people; all which perfectly agrees with those doctrines respecting the occasion, nature, efficacy, intent, and extent of the sufferings of Jesus, which the New Testament abounds with. But I proceed,Thirdly, To consider the several circumstances which were to attend the death and sufferings of the Messiah.

And I shall begin,1st, With the hypocrisy and treachery of one of his familiar friends; that Jesus was betrayed by Judas, one of his disciples, not only the evangelists affirm, but the Jews themselves acknowledge in the account which they themselves. gave of the life and actions of Jesus. [14] Now this, Jesus says, was to come to pass, (John 13:18) that the scripture might be fulfilled, He that eateth bread with me hath lift up his heel against me. The scripture referred to is Psalm 41:9 which Psalm, in its literal, and obvious sense, wholly belongs to the Messiah. In verse 1-3, the happiness of those persons is set forth, who should consider the poor, that is, the Messiah in his low estate, one of whose characters is lowly or poor, Zechariah 9:9 in verse 5, his enemies are represented wishing for his death, saying, When shall he die and his name perish? which was the thing the Jews so earnestly desired, and so much longed for, with respect to Jesus, and never left plotting till they had effected it; which hypocrisy, perfidy, treachery, and vile designs of theirs, are very aptly described in verses 6, 7where the true complexion and actions of the Jews, in the times of Jesus, are expressed to the life; see Matthew 22:15-18
and chapter 26:3, 4 and this thing which they so much desired, they brought about by suborning false witnesses, and bringing a wrong charge, and false accusation against him, which is signified in verse 8 an evil disease, l[ylb rbd a word of Belial, a wicked word, or false accusation, say they, cleaveth fast unto him, which was that of making himself a king, forbidding to give tribute to Caesar (Luke 23:2), which succeeded according to their wishes, to the taking away of his life; and therefore, in an exulting and triumphing manner, they say, And now that he lieth, that is, in the grave, as the word bk is sometimes used; see 2 Samuel 7:12, he shall rise up no more, that is, from the dead, though that was a mistake of theirs, for he was raised from the dead, for which he prays, verse 10 that he might requite these his enemies, as he did, by destroying their city, temple, and nation. Now all these things must needs be very afflicting to the Messiah, and he mentions them here by way of complaint; but yet what was an aggravation of them, and made them still more heavy, was the deceitfulness and treachery of one of his disciples, who betrayed him into the hands of his enemies; and he complains of it as such in verse 9. Yea mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lift up his heel against me Though he concludes the Psalm with joy and thankfulness for God's raising him from the dead, exalting him with his own right hand, and setting him before his face for ever, verse 11-13.

There is indeed one thing which may seem to render this Psalm inapplicable to the Messiah, and so to Jesus, and that is, this person confesses himself to be a sinner in verse 4 I said, Lord be merciful unto me, and heal my soul, for I have sinned against thee. The words may be rendered thus, heal my soul, that is, delivered me out of my sorrows and afflictions, [15] dl ytafj yk because I have made an offering for sin unto thee; the word afj in Pihel, is frequently used to expiate, atone, or make an offering for sin; (see Exodus 29:36; Leviticus 6:20; 9:15; Ps.2:7. And in Hithpahel, to purify, or cleanse, oneself from sin; see Numbers 19:12, 13, 20 and though the word is not so frequently used in Kal, in the sense of making an offering for sin; yet some instances may be produced, where it seems to require such a translation; thus in Leviticus 5:7, If he be not able to bring a lamb, them shall he bring wfa ta his trespass-offering, afj ra which he shall, or is to offer for sin, two turtledoves, etc. Again in verse 11, If he be not able to bring two turtle doves then shall he bring his offering afj which he shall offer for sin, offeret pro peccato suo, Vulg. Lat. the tenth part of an ephah etc. besides, tafj is frequently used for a sin offering; (see Ex. 29:14; Lev. 4:3, 8, 21, 24, 29, 33,34), which well agrees with the Messiah, who was to make his soul an offering for sin (Isa. 53:10), and with Jesus, who was made sin (2 Cor. 5:21), that is, an offering for sin, for us, who knew no sin, that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. From the whole it appears, that this Psalm is a literal prophecy of the Messiah, and that Judas's betraying of Jesus, was a literal accomplishment of the passage referred to in it.

I proceed, 2dly, To consider another circumstance which was to attend the Messiah as suffering, and that is his being sold, by the same person that betrayed him, for thirty pieces of silver. That Jesus was sold at such a price, cannot well be denied, neither is it: Judas agreed with the chief priests to deliver him into their hands, on this consideration, who, having done his work, receives his wages; but his conscience afterwards accusing him for this vile and barbarous action, he returned them the money, acknowledging his guilt; but they not judging it lawful put this money into the treasury, because it was the price of blood, bought the potter's field with it, to bury strangers in; all which was exactly according to the prophecies of the Old Testament, for the evangelist, when he had given the historical narration of these things, observes, That (Matthew 27:9, 10) then was fulfilled, that which was spoken by Jeremy the prophet, saying, And they took the thirty pieces of silver, the price of him that was valued, whom they of the children of Israel did value: and gave them for the potter's field, as the Lord appointed me. This prophecy not appearing in any of the writings which bear the name of Jeremy, but being in the prophecy of Zechariah, chapter 11:12, 13 creates some difficulty; which, in order to remove, let it be observed, that the sacred writings were divided by the Jews into three parts; the first is called the law, which contains the five books of Moses; the second the prophets, which contain the former and the latter prophets; the former prophets began at Joshua, [16] the latter at Jeremy;the third was called Cetubim, the Hagiographa, or holy writings, which began with the book of Psalms. Now, as this whole third and last part is called the Psalms, Luke 24:44 because it began with that book, so all that part which contained the latter prophets, beginning at Jeremy, for the same reason, might be called by his name: hence a passage standing in the prophecy of Zechariah, who was one of the latter prophets, might be justly cited under the name of Jeremy.

Moreover, the learned Mr. Mede has proved, [17] by many arguments, that the four last chapters of the book of Zechary were wrote by Jeremy, and if so, the difficulty is at once removed; therefore the next thing to be enquired into, is the justness of the application of this prophecy. Now that it is a prophecy of the Messiah, which was fulfilled in Jesus, manifestly appears from the context, as well as the text itself; the person here spoken of, is, in verse 4 called to feed the flock of slaughter, which being in a very poor condition, verse 5, 6 the state of the Jews therefore, at the time of Christ's coming, is hereby very aptly represented; he agrees to do it, verse 7 and accordingly furnishes himself for it; but he is rejected, despised, and abhorred, by the shepherds, the principal men in church and state, because he severely inveighed against their doctrines and practices, verse 8 whereupon he rejects them, and dissolves both their civil and church state, which can suit with no other times than the times of Jesus, verse 9-11, 14 and lest it should be thought that he used them with too much severity, he gives one single instance of their wretched ingratitude to him, which shews how little they esteemed of him, and that is their valuing of him at no greater a price than thirty pieces of silver, verse12, 13 which were afterwards cast unto the potter. It may perhaps be objected to the application of this prophecy to Judas's betraying of Jesus, that, supposing Messiah is here intended, the money is said to be given into his hands, and not into the hands of him that was to betray him, and I said unto them, If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. To which I answer, that the words yrb wbj should not be rendered give me my price, but give my price, that is, give what you think fit to value me at, into the hand of him that is to betray me, and accordingly they did so; so they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver; which is the very sum the chief priests covenanted with Judas for, and which he received, according to Matthew 26:15.

Again, if it should be objected to the citation of St. Matthew, that it is considerably different from the words of the prophet; for whereas it is said in the prophet, I took the thirty pieces, and cast them, etc. the evangelist says, they took the thirty pieces, etc. and they gave, etc. It may be replied, that elabonin St Matthew
[18] may be very welt rendered I took, as edwkan may very reasonably be supposed to be put for edwka; and so the Syriac seems to have read it, seeing it renders the word by tbhy I gave; but all this cannot be better expressed than in the words of the learned Mede, [19] "Elabon here in St. Matthew (says he) is the first person singular, and not the third plural, as we are wont to translate it, for it answers to tbhy in the Hebrew. The same person and number must also edwkan be, whether the n be paragogical, or an ancient slip of the scribe; for the Syriac translates it dedi, and in the Hebrew it answers to hjqaw, all this to be so, the words following evince; namely, kaqa sunetaxe moi Kuriov, how will it cohere else? they gave, etc. as the Lord commanded me; must it not needs be, I gave, etc"? But if it should be still objected that the Messiah, and not the betrayer, is said to cast this money to the potter, And I took the thirty pieces of silver, and cast them to the potter, in the house of the Lord; it may be replied, that Jesus may be said to do that which Judas and the chief priest did, because, by his almighty power and providence, he over-ruled those things for good, which in themselves were evil. Judas thought to have converted the money to his own use, and the priests would have been glad to have taken it again to themselves, but Christ obliged Judas to carry back the money to the priests, and cast it into the temple; and worked upon the minds of the priests not to put it into the treasury, but to buy the potter's field therewith, whereby the prophecy in its literal sense, was fully accomplished.

 3dly, Another circumstance which was to attend the Messiah's sufferings, is, his being forsaken by the rest of his disciples. That the disciples of Jesus forsook him and fled, when he was apprehended by his enemies, not only the evangelist, but the Jews themselves affirm. [20] Now this was foretold by Jesus, who declares that so it should be, because it is written (Matthew 26:31, 56), I will smite the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock shall be scattered abroad. The place referred to, where these words are written, is Zechariah 13:7, Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that is my fellow, saith the Lord of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered; which prophecy is a manifest prophecy of the Messiah, as appears not only from the character of a shepherd, which is frequently given to the Messiah in the Old Testament, and is what Jesus bears in the New; but also from his being God's fellow, which cannot be said of any other, and is justly applicable to him, who, (Philippians 2:6), being in the form of God thought it not robbery to be equal with him. Many Jewish writers [21] refer those words of Zechariah to the days of the Messiah, even to Messiah the son of Joseph.
4thly, The Messiah was not only to be forsaken by his disciples, but also by his God; this dereliction is prophesied of in Psalm 22 which Psalm has been proved to belong to the Messiah. Accordingly Jesus, while he was suffering on the cross, was deserted by his Father, and in his agony used the very words with which the Psalm begins, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

 5thly, The Messiah was to be numbered with transgressors; accordingly, with Jesus, the Jews crucified two thieves (Mark 15:15, 27, 28), the one on his right hand, and the other on his left; and the scripture was fulfilled, which saith, And he was numbered with the transgressors. Nothing could more effectually do it, than their placing him between them, and his dying with them, which was a manifest indication, that he was reckoned as a malefactor, and so was numbered with them.

 6thly, His garments were to be parted, and lots cast upon his vesture, according to Psalm 22:18 which was literally fulfilled in Jesus, Matthew 27:35.

 7thly, It was prophesied of him, that gall would be given him for his meat, and vinegar for him to drink, and accordingly these were given to Jesus, when upon the cross; and therefore, in order to bring it about, and that this scripture might be fulfilled, he said, I thirst; which was not fulfilled by a mere accommodation of such a phrase found in the Psalms, [22] for this does not suppose that there was a prophecy of him, that he should say, I thirst, but his saying so, was an evidence of that thirst being upon him, prophesied of in Psalm 22:15, which was the occasion of fulfilling the prophecy, concerning the gall and vinegar, which were to be given him in this distress. Psalm 69:21.

 8thly, A bone of him was not to be broken. Now it is very remarkable, that whereas it was a custom to break the legs of the crucified, and accordingly the legs of the thieves, which were crucified with Jesus, were broken; but when they came to him, finding him dead, notwithstanding all their rage and malice against him, they brake not his legs; and the evangelist observes (John 19:36), that these things were done that the scripture should be fulfilled, A bone of him shall not be broken. The scripture referred to, is Psalm 34:20, he keepeth all his bones, not one of them is broken. Which, if understood of the righteous in general, had a very particular and remarkable completion in Jesus, though it seems rather to regard some particular person, and who can be so well supposed to be understood as the Messiah? To understand it of the righteous in general, will not hold good, for such a calamity sometimes befals them as well as the wicked; and when under such a distress of body, they would be liable to a greater distress of mind; for from hence they would be apt to conclude, that they were not righteous persons, nor under the special care and protection of God, otherwise this promise would be made good to them, he keepeth all his bones: not one of them is broken.

 9thly, The Messiah was to be pierced, at the time of his suffering, and accordingly Jesus was; for one of the soldiers, with a spear, pierced his side; whereby, as the evangelist observes (John 19:37), that scripture was fulfilled, they shall look upon him whom they have pierced: the scripture is Zechariah 12:10. Which prophecy, by many Jewish writers, [23] is understood of the Messiah, and of the piercing him. The author of The Scheme of Literal Prophecy, says, that the words "manifestlyappear not to concern Jesus; his reasons are, because there was to be a war in Judea, and a siege of Jerusalem, and then a deliverance of the Jews, by the destruction of all the nations that should come up at that time against Jerusalem." And Mr. Sykes asks, "Did any one circumstance of all this happen to the Jews about the time of the death of Jesus? or rather, was not every thing the reverse of what Zechariah says; and instead of all nations being destroyed that came about Jerusalem, Jerusalem itself was destroyed; instead of a spirit of grace and supplications, the Jews have had their hearts hardened against the Christ; instead of mourning for him whom they pierced, they curse him and his followers even to this day." To both which I reply, that these things instanced in, were not according to this prophecy, to come to pass at the time of the piercing of the Messiah, but at the time of the Jews looking to him, and mourning for him, on the account thereof, when brought under a conviction of their evil in so doing; now whereas the piercing of the Messiah has been literally fulfilled in Jesus, and though the Jews, even to this very day, are hardened against him; yet there is no reason to conclude, but that that part of the prophecy, which concerns their looking to him, and a mourning for him, on the account of his being pierced by them, will also, in God's own time be fulfilled; when we may reasonably expect all these circumstances, attending it, will have their full accomplishment.

ALL I HAVE TO SAY TO YOU IS REPENT AND FIND THE LORD JESUS CHRIST HE IS COMING AGAIN SOON I FEEL THIS VERY YEAR BEFORE 2012 JUDGEMENT WILL BEGIN AND I FEEL AND KNOW HE IS NOT COMING AS A LAMB AS HE LEFT BUT HE IS RETURNING AS A LION.

THE HOLY BIBLE TELLS US THIS.   REPENT   TURN TO JESUS CHRIST NOW WHILE THERE IS STILL TIME.

SOON THE INTERNET WILL GO DOWN.  SOON THE REAL HARDSHIPS AND JUDGEMENT BEGINS FOR THE COMET RUNS.

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VICKIE RESPONDS TO THE ALLEGATIONS

AUTHOR: RJS - (United States of America)

POSTED: Friday, October 26, 2012
FIRST OF ALL COME SEE VICKIES YOUTUBE CHANNEL IMPROV777 SEE FIRST HAND WHO VICKIE IS AND WHAT SHE IS ABOUT DON'T LISTEN TO HER CYBERBULLY. 

HERE IS A LINK TO VICKIES YOUTUBE CHANNEL:

http://www.youtube.com/user/improv777?feature=watch

CYBERBULLING AGGRAVATED HARRASSMENT ALL THAT IS SOOOOOOOO COMMON PLACE ONLINE NOW DAYS.  DON'T BELIEVE ME????  ASK ANY YOUTUBE SOCIAL NETWORK USER THAT POSTS ANY AMOUNT OF VIDEOS AND IT WANT BE LONG BEFORE YOU GET THE ANSWER.  VICKIE IS GUILTY OF NOTHING.  SHE ONLY STOOD UP FOR HERSELF.

Vickie at no time ever said anyone on the internet had aids are would make fun of such a serious issue.  She understands fully about health issues and that topic would simply be off limits to her as she is a hepatitis c sufferer herself.  She has attended group concerning taking the new strong powerful drugs including Interferon with Aids patients whom suffered with Hepatitis C too at the same time and extended love and empathy and friendship to them. So making fun of someone fabricating that someone has aids is just not the truth and simply not her nature.  So that is a blatant LIE> Someone asked her on myspace several years ago when they noticed Alexander Grant harrassing her did that person have aids because that person thought it made be a symptom of aids related dimentia.  It was only a question asked. Exploiting this serious disease was never done.

Vickie did call Minneapolis Public Television broadcasting in order to confirm Alexander C. Grants identity after he stole her copyrighted videos and used them to Cyber-Bully her for years.  He did this for year after documented copyright complaints now in the hands of the FBI and the copyrights enforcement agents. The Minneanaplis police departement ultimately identified Alex Grant.  At  NO time was he ever earning wages or employed by this public broadcasting station whom allowed him free air time on friday nights in the early 90's for his Acutus Ptolemy skits. He had not even been at the station in over 9 years when she called to identify him after researching a newpaper article online.   She at no point tried to get anyone fired.  She only wanted to positively identify Alex grant along with the Minneapolis Police Department.

Vickie is no stalker.  What it really is CyberBullying. She did dramatic skits, and they stole those dramatic skits to repost CyberBully and harrass and when she filed DMCA notifications against them because they were copyrighted it instlled hostility and anger. 

After that when she said no, you cannot use my copyrighted material they insisted upon that she filed more DMCA notifications.  Than began to CyberBully as much as possible and employ the use of Bia's Intimidation, aggravated harrassment and terroristic threats.  (( Anchoring is a very old technique understood well by law enforcment so they started telling out and out lies complete mis-information in order to Anchor there Bia's Intimidation and aggravated harrassment and terroristic threats. ))  This goes on to this day!  The only strange behavior exhibited by Cyberbullying of her.

Rebecca Young aka Rebecca Bidwell aka Rebecca Jean Bidwell and Alexander C. Grant or the harrassers. I have never written or corresponded to Rebecca Youngs daughter Nikki Young. Rebecca Bidwell uses the name Rebecca Young now.
 
When this poster refers to   Rebecca Young   aka   Rebecca Jean Bidwell  and indicates Vickie posted lies about her and her being involved in child pornography is another complete fabrication and it is more anchoring to justify aggravated harrassment. 

At no time did Vickie ever say this woman Rebecca Bidwell whom has reports on this site was involved in child pornography she has made it clear from the beginning that she would not do that and did not do that as she has not proof of that.  It is simply more Anchoring in order to justify more aggravated harrassment.  As it has been explained by Vickie many times and admitted by this user he did this,  youtube user:     http://www.youtube.com/user/MchWaltes89   posted that information about Rebecca Jean Bidwell.   Youtube user:  MchWaltes89   www.youtube.com/user/MchWaltes89    At no time did Vickie say she would post lies about this woman.

So those are lies.

Vickie did file a Federal Lawsuit against Alexander C. Grant  Rice vs.Grant  and it was dismissed but
only because of failure to provide proper service.  Mr. Grant would not answer his door and process server attempted twice and both times he failed to answer his door.  It was only dismissed for lack of service,  not on merit.  The lawsuit did help to engage the FBI further into the case however.  Notes and copies of threats that were issued were sent to the Federal Judge in charge of the case.

Over reaching when this person says Vickie committed perjury and lied on an application for assistance to waive the federal filing fee for the complaint against Mr. Grant.  The application was honest and the U.S. attorney's is aware of that.  So not only Anchoring is going on here, allot of over-reaching because Vickie stood up for herself against this Cyber-Bully. The CyberBullying and aggravated harrassment.  When you put yourself out there online this is what you get in this day and age , even teenagers get it, some even committing suicide over it. Very sad.  Many good youtube celebritys get CyberBullied and many of them gets threats too. It routine and commonplace on youtube and social networking sites now.

The list does not go on and on, only the Anchoring does in order to defame and lie and slander and CyberBully and inflict aggravated harrassment and Bia's Intimidation and copyright theft. The list does not go on and on.

Vickie never posted on any site whatsoever that she had a son and she certainly never said this woman Rebecca Bidwell molested her son.  Terrible Anchoring , just terrible.   The Molestation remarks posted her on this site about Rebecca Bidwell were posted by youtube user MchWaltes89 and he did admit that.   If you get time look up some videos on youtube about Anchoring. Anchoring is a technique law enforcement is very familiar with and is used to justify the perpetraitors aggression.

VICKIE IS A CHRISTIAN. I WILL SAY THAT AGAIN. VICKIE IS A CHRISTIAN AND THE WHOLE BASIS FOR THESE ATTACKS IS BECAUSE OF HER BEING CHRISTIAN AND LOVING THE LORD JESUS CHRIST AND LETTING OTHERS KNOW WE ARE IN THE LAST DAYS.

FIND OUT MORE ABOUT VICKIE FIRST HAND YOURSELF SHE POSTS DAILY ON HER YOUTUBE CHANNEL
IMPROV777   HERE >   http://www.youtube.com/user/improv777?feature=watch

Vickie has many friends both online and offline. Vickie is loved by many people both online and offline. So to say she has no friends is non-sense.

The Encyclopedia Dramatic article about Vickie is Sick and Inaccurate.  The photos on the site are stolen scalped dramatic skit photos and being used out of context.
The remarks about her being a Scientologist is Sick and Inaccurate, she has never been to a Scientologist church and is a devote Christian. She does not even like the Sciencetology cult but will agree they have the right to practice freedom of religion. 
Vickie believes in the Messiah, Jesus Christ.  The Encyclopedia Dramatic site article is a complete fabrication/CyberBullying.  Vickie has strong fundamental Christian Belief and feels we are in the End Of Times and you can learn more about Vickie by visiting her youtube channel as previously said:

Improv777   http://www.youtube.com/user/improv777?feature=watch

The remarks about Vickie having to take meds occassionally however is true do to mental issues that are attributed to depression.

The book of Revelations is being fulfilled.  The End of Days is here.  It will be the Messiah,  Jesus Christ that will judge the world now.  That is what her youtube channel Improv777 is all about. 

This year, this very year of 2012 will be the beginning year of great devestation as our Lord Jesus Christ shows his hand and the 6th Seal of Revelation is broken.

For the Messiah, Jesus Christ is coming back.  2012 will be the beginning of many trials and tribulations upon the earth.  Are you ready?  I suggest you accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior and prepare for the coming of Jesus Christ.

Improv777   http://www.youtube.com/user/improv777?feature=watch

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VICKIE RICE RESPONDS TO THE ALLEGATIONS

AUTHOR: RJS - (USA)

POSTED: Friday, October 26, 2012
FIRST OF ALL COME SEE VICKIES YOUTUBE CHANNEL IMPROV777 SEE FIRST HAND WHO VICKIE IS AND WHAT SHE IS ABOUT DON'T LISTEN TO HER CYBERBULLY. 

HERE IS A LINK TO VICKIES YOUTUBE CHANNEL:
http://www.youtube.com/user/improv777?feature=watch

CYBERBULLING AGGRAVATED HARRASSMENT ALL THAT IS SOOOOOOOO COMMON PLACE ONLINE NOW DAYS.  DON'T BELIEVE ME????  ASK ANY YOUTUBE SOCIAL NETWORK USER THAT POSTS ANY AMOUNT OF VIDEOS AND IT WANT BE LONG BEFORE YOU GET THE ANSWER.  VICKIE IS GUILTY OF NOTHING.  SHE ONLY STOOD UP FOR HERSELF.

Vickie at no time ever said anyone on the internet had aids are would make fun of such a serious issue.  She understands fully about health issues and that topic would simply be off limits to her as she is a hepatitis c sufferer herself.  She has attended group concerning taking the new strong powerful drugs including Interferon with Aids patients whom suffered with Hepatitis C too at the same time and extended love and empathy and friendship to them. So making fun of someone fabricating that someone has aids is just not the truth and simply not her nature.  So that is a blatant LIE> Someone asked her on myspace several years ago when they noticed Alexander Grant harrassing her did that person have aids because that person thought it made be a symptom of aids related dimentia.  It was only a question asked. Exploiting this serious disease was never done.

Vickie did call Minneapolis Public Television broadcasting in order to confirm Alexander C. Grants identity after he stole her copyrighted videos and used them to Cyber-Bully her for years.  He did this for year after documented copyright complaints now in the hands of the FBI and the copyrights enforcement agents. The Minneanaplis police departement ultimately identified Alex Grant.  At  NO time was he ever earning wages or employed by this public broadcasting station whom allowed him free air time on friday nights in the early 90's for his Acutus Ptolemy skits. He had not even been at the station in over 9 years when she called to identify him after researching a newpaper article online.   She has called no other employment. She at no point tried to get anyone fired.  She only wanted to positively identify Alex grant along with the Minneapolis Police Department.

Vickie is no stalker.  What it really is CyberBullying. She did dramatic skits, and they stole those dramatic skits to repost CyberBully and harrass and when she filed DMCA notifications against them because they were copyrighted it instlled hostility and anger. 

After that when she said no, you cannot use my copyrighted material they insisted upon that she filed more DMCA notifications.  Than began to CyberBully as much as possible and employ the use of Bia's Intimidation, aggravated harrassment and terroristic threats.  (( Anchoring is a very old technique understood well by law enforcment so they started telling out and out lies complete mis-information in order to Anchor there Bia's Intimidation and aggravated harrassment and terroristic threats. ))  This goes on to this day!  The only strange behavior exhibited by Cyberbullying of her.
 
When this poster refers to Rebecca Jean Bidwell and indicates Vickie posted lies about her and her being involved in child pornography is another complete fabrication and it is more anchoring to justify aggravated harrassment. 

At no time did Vickie ever say this woman Rebecca Bidwell whom has reports on this site was involved in child pornography she has made it clear from the beginning that she would not do that and did not do that as she has not proof of that.  It is simply more Anchoring in order to justify more aggravated harrassment.  As it has been explained by Vickie many times and admitted by this user he did this,  youtube user:     http://www.youtube.com/user/MchWaltes89   posted that information about Rebecca Jean Bidwell.   Youtube user:  MchWaltes89   www.youtube.com/user/MchWaltes89  .  At no time did Vickie say she would post lies about this woman.

So those are lies.

Vickie did file a Federal Lawsuit against Alexander C. Grant  Rice vs.Grant  and it was dismissed but
only because of failure to provide proper service.  Mr. Grant would not answer his door and process server attempted twice and both times he failed to answer his door.  It was only dismissed for lack of service,  not on merit.  The lawsuit did help to engage the FBI further into the case however.  Notes and copies of threats that were issued were sent to the Federal Judge in charge of the case.

Over reaching when this person says Vickie committed perjury and lied on an application for assistance to waive the federal filing fee for the complaint against Mr. Grant.  The application was honest and the U.S. attorney's is aware of that.  So not only Anchoring is going on here, allot of over-reaching because Vickie stood up for herself against this Cyber-Bully. The CyberBullying and aggravated harrassment.  When you put yourself out there online this is what you get in this day and age , even teenagers get it, some even committing suicide over it. Very sad.  Many good youtube celebritys get CyberBullied and many of them gets threats too. It routine and commonplace on youtube and social networking sites now.

The list does not go on and on, only the Anchoring does in order to defame and lie and slander and CyberBully and inflict aggravated harrassment and Bia's Intimidation and copyright theft. The list does not go on and on.

Vickie never posted on any site whatsoever that she had a son and she certainly never said this woman Rebecca Bidwell molested her son.  Terrible Anchoring , just terrible.   The Molestation remarks posted her on this site about Rebecca Bidwell were posted by youtube user MchWaltes89 and he did admit that.   If you get time look up some videos on youtube about Anchoring. Anchoring is a technique law enforcement is very familiar with and is used to justify the perpetraitors aggression.

VICKIE IS A CHRISTIAN. I WILL SAY THAT AGAIN. VICKIE IS A CHRISTIAN AND THE WHOLE BASIS FOR THESE ATTACKS IS BECAUSE OF HER BEING CHRISTIAN AND LOVING THE LORD JESUS CHRIST AND LETTING OTHERS KNOW WE ARE IN THE LAST DAYS.

FIND OUT MORE ABOUT VICKIE FIRST HAND YOURSELF SHE POSTS DAILY ON HER YOUTUBE CHANNEL
IMPROV777   HERE >   http://www.youtube.com/user/improv777?feature=watch

Vickie has many friends both online and offline. Vickie is loved by many people both online and offline. So to say she has no friends is non-sense.

The Encyclopedia Dramatic article about Vickie is Sick and Inaccurate.  The photos on the site are stolen scalped dramatic skit photos and being used out of context. The remarks about her being a Scientologist is Sick and Inaccurate, she has never been to a Scientologist church and is a devote Christian. She does not even like the Sciencetology cult but will agree they have the right to practice freedom of religion.  Vickie believes in the Messiah, Jesus Christ.  The Encyclopedia Dramatic site article is a complete fabrication/CyberBullying.  Vickie has strong fundamental Christian Belief and feels we are in the End Of Times and you can learn more about Vickie by visiting her youtube channel as previously said:

Improv777   http://www.youtube.com/user/improv777?feature=watch

The remarks about Vickie having to take meds occassionally however is true do to mental issues that are attributed to depression.

The book of Revelations is being fulfilled.  The End of Days is here.  It will be the Messiah,  Jesus Christ that will judge the world now.  That is what her youtube channel Improv777 is all about. 

This year, this very year of 2012 will be the beginning year of great devestation as our Lord Jesus Christ shows his hand and the 6th Seal of Revelation is broken.

For the Messiah, Jesus Christ is coming back.  2012 will be the beginning of many trials and tribulations upon the earth.  Are you ready?  I suggest you accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior and prepare for the coming of Jesus Christ.

Improv777   http://www.youtube.com/user/improv777?feature=watch

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Encyclopedia Dramatica has more information on Vickie Rice, Gay Diamond, Margie Brubaker, or Margerie Brubaker

AUTHOR: AshleyLynn5$231Burchfield - (USA)

POSTED: Thursday, October 25, 2012

https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Gaydiamond

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Vickie Rice told a man's facebook friends that he had AIDS.

AUTHOR: AshleyLynn5$231Burchfield - (USA)

POSTED: Tuesday, October 23, 2012

Vickie Rice of Houston Texas had no proof that this man had AIDS, yet she told anyone who would "listen" on the internet that he had AIDS.  She admitted she called one person's job trying to find them.  What she fails to mention is that she has called several people's jobs trying to get them fired.  These were people that did not give her their name or contact information.  Vickie Rice stalked these people and, then, when they wouldn't entertain her strange behavior, she called their jobs and lied on them trying to get them fired.

Vickie Rice denies saying that Rebeccah's children were involved in child porn, yet Vickie Rice admitted she will "continue to post lies" on the internet if Rebekkah, Acutus, Sharlolaid, and several others "didn't stop cyberbullying her."  The COURT dismissed Vickie's complaint against Alexander Grant.  Vickie wrote letters saying she was being bullied by Grant when she produced emails showing that she was contacting Grant and harrassing him.  So, let's recap:

Vickie Rice has posted that a lady is a child porn producer
Vickie Rice has posted that a man has AIDS
Vickie Rice has lied to a federal court and subjected herself to prosecution by the Texas United State's Attorney's Office

The list goes on and on...

The worst thing Vickie Rice did is posted a lady's name and address and said the lady molested her son (Vickie doesn't have a son, so she made the story up and used a different name).  Vickie posted this information on this site and, whenever you google the person's name, the molestation charges appear.

Vickie Rice is NO Christian and is a mentally ill woman who attempts to RUIN reputations because she wants people to be just as miserable as she is.  She states "I have tons of friends."  What she leaves out is that these are "internet friends."

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TAUNTING HARRASSMENT & CYBERBULLYING

AUTHOR: RJS - (USA)

POSTED: Thursday, October 18, 2012

What I take exception to is the fact is that this poster slandered and defamed Vickie when he states she lies about people. When he himself participated in the editing and some input to a completely false article about her in Encyclopedia Dramatica saying she was a scienetologist when she has never even been affiliated with the group at all and is a Christian.  The poster may have not inputed that part about her being a scientologist but he contributed to the hate page run on that site.  And in his participation in that site he referred to Vickie using slurs and perpetuating derogatory slurs.


Another thing I take exception to is the posting says Vickie is destroying lives by posting what these CyberBully's are doing online on the rip off report.  Really?  Cause they were the ones that downloaded her youtube videos edited them and used them to taunt, harrass, intimidate, and Cyberbully her.  Really? Destroying peoples lives? Really? Cause this type of behavior has really destroyed peoples lives to the point of suicide including recently quite a few teenagers that have taken there lives because of CyberBullying.  Really?  Destroying peoples lives?  Cause that is exactly what this poster and his friends are doing to others online and targeting Christians in particular.

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TROLL IS TROLLING HARD Is that A KOMPUTAH?!?!?!??

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (United States of America)

POSTED: Wednesday, October 17, 2012

TROLL IS TROLLING HARD.


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Responding to Ryan G Fair

AUTHOR: TruthSpeaker777 - (USA)

POSTED: Tuesday, October 16, 2012

Correction Statement.  Vickie does not own any cooperations period.  In the earlier rebuttal part of the sentence was left out.  This is a correction of that. 

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Responding to Ryan's allegations and Bia's

AUTHOR: TruthSpeaker777 - (USA)

POSTED: Tuesday, October 16, 2012

You said Vickie sued a man by the name of Alexander C Grant on the internet for her harrassing her. It is well documented that he did and if you google Acutus Ptolemy / Alexander Grant you can read the actual letters and threats he sent to Vickie.

Vickie was honest with the federal court.  Vickie did not commit perjury. 

Vickie does not even have a car at this time.

Vickie does not own a home. 
Vickie does not own a cleaning business.
Vickie does not own a gift shop. 
Vickie own a cooperation or cooperations.  
Vickie has never been sued for a non-payment of a student loan, however she did default on a student loan when she became ill with hepatitis C.    
* The US Attorneys office has not contacted Vickie because the claims are false and inaccurate. There is no investigation.

Alexander C. Grant stalked Vickie and infact stole all her copyrighted videos and used them to taunt her and harrass and ridicule her.  When the copyrighted footage was dmca'd Alexander Grant escalated to threats and those can be found on his rip off reports posted word for word by searching this site for Alex Grant or Acutus Ptolemy or Alexander Grant.
Vickie did sue Mr. Grant in the United States Federal Court.
Vickie at no time ever posted on the internet that Rebecca Jean Bidwell was involved in child pornography. Those posts were strictly and solely posted by a youtube user by the name of  " McWhaltes." 

Vickie did contacted a public television station in Minneapolis were Mr. Alexander Grant did some early on public broadcasting.  At no time was he employed at that station. He was doing skits on public broadcasting and at the time when Vickie contacted the station he was not even affiliated with them any longer. 

 That was for identification purposes in order to identity acutus ptolemy's real name so authorities could be notified.  Ultimately that identification came from Minneapolis Police. Vickie has called no other employment.

Anonymyke was not a kid but however a 26 year old man in the UK an avowed member of the online criminal organization "anonymous" and Anonymyke was threatening Vickie gang stalking her online inconjunction with Rebecca J. Bidwell and Alexander C. Grant.  Taunting, harrassment, gang stalking, real threats. Since then many anonymous members have been arrested.

Vickie is not a bitter person and is loved by many.  Has many friends and is loved and accepted by many people and has a friendly outgoing socialable personality.

Vickie is infact a transgender.
Vickie infact has many friends. 
It is true that some people do reject Vickie because of her philosphy especially about the coming wars she see's and the End of Days she believes we are living in but in this day and age,  not everyone is going to like you. Not everyone is going to agree with your philosphy.
 
Vickie does give readings her accuracy rate has been extremely high. Her philosphy is that we are in the End of Times and many of the reading pertain to End of Times events, Earthquakes, Hurricanes, Astroids, disasters, war, she clearly see's war and the End Of Days now.   Vickie did miss on her prediction about seeing Hilary Clinton because she saw Hilary in the White house and indeed Hilary was apponted to the State department.
Vickie does not destroy lives. Vickie however does stand up for herself.

This Entire Report is Sick and Inaccurate and very Bia's.   

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