Symmetry Financial Group NAA and Ed Orell Don't be fooled, they want to sell you leads and sign you up. Your the prospect not the Employee. Lake Worth, Florida

My condolences about your breakup with Ed Orell.  I'm sure you had a wonderful relationship together, and your heart was broken after a short fling.  But don't take out your heartache and pain on the family by making up lies and talking about things you clearly do not understand.  Let me offer the facts to those who aren't blinded from the tears.  Symmetry Financial Group is NOT affiliated in any way with NAA.  The Wilson Group is with NAA, not SFG.  So get it right.  The website was started in Oct 2009, because that is when SFG was formed.  Is this a problem?  Is it a bad thing when a young company goes from 0 to over 600,000 annual premium in two years?  By the way, in order to produce that type of production, the agents need to be helping a LOT of people.  So it's great for the client, and great for the agent, and great for our carriers.  Here is another lie.  SFG does not have telemarketed leads, as you would imply.  They do direct mail only to generate a fresh lead.  If you have been in the insurance industry for more than 5 minutes, you know that it does indeed cost money to gather data, send out huge amounts of mailers, and distribute leads to agents.  It costs roughly 45-50 dollars to generate a hot, direct mail lead.  The agent only pays half of that cost.  So who exactly is making money on leads???  The only free lead source I know of is referrals and cold calling.  But most agents who rely on just that for their lead source are frustrated and broke.  Those are also the same people that tend to distribute false information about reputable companies to anyone who will listen.  How about this.  I produce 15k-20k in AP per month.  When you start YOUR company that provides me with FREE, fresh, direct mail leads, and will start me out on a 100% contract level, and allow me to build a 100,000 AVP agency in 1 year, give me a call. I'd be happy to take that deal, but as far as I know, it doesn't exist.  When were you planning on doing that?  Until then, maybe spend less time fabricating numbers, and more time checking facts.

Go to:  http://www.sfgleads.com/testimonials.aspx and the last video is Ed Orell stating he is the DIRECTOR of Symmetry Financial Group as of Jan 26th, 2012 at 8:56pm .  I really don't care about your income, this forum is designed to inform new employees of what they might expect.  I listen to what you say only to a point in which I find conflict with your information and what your company posted to YOUR website and the affiliation you deny.  "Let me offer the facts to those who aren't blinded from the tears.  Symmetry Financial Group is NOT affiliated in any way with NAA.  The Wilson Group is with NAA, not SFG" and legally you should be correct.  Follow the rabbit and where does he run?  Nothing wrong with a new company and a new web site.  Nothing wrong with a new business.   But what about the same business practices under a new name doing the same business they have been doing all along with lots of complaints only to hide under a different name???  I am asking the question.  If you are an agent or managing partner for this firm, you might want to ask yourself "If I'm making this much money for this company, do I really want to move forward in this rebuttal and possibly risk my license with the insurance board for false statements."  The The Sarbanes-Oxley Act might make you think twice about your write it regret it formula.  I encourage all to investigate companies offering employment.

I understand you have some personal issue with Ed, and frankly noone cares. Because someone is affiliated with a company does not make him owner. Jason Garrett is the coach of the Dallas Cowboys. I guess you think he is the owner too then. He used to play for the Giants too. Does that mean the Cowboys are just like the Giants, and have just changed the name? Your logic is presumed and faulty. The only complaint I ever heard about SFG is from you. And all you complain about is Ed. If he goes to work at a homeless shelter, are you going to bash them too? Do us all a favor. Send your personal hate mail to Ed, and let the rest of us continue to earn an honest living helping protect families.

Well if you asked me about a job interview and ed orell was giving it! I would walk away saying what an ass! Problem is you have to look at what he is after. He isnt looking for a guy that is going to come on here and complain! He doesnt care if you do put junk on here about how it is a scam. People dont have the balls to try this if they complain. They werent willing to change. We share in this and I cant stand the absolute degrading of something when you speak bull!!!! I can gaurantee you didnt change or make any money! you judged and you are soft! Ed is good at what he needs to do. He doesnt scam he just doesnt accept half ass! Get yourself together and go work for geico wimp

Let's take it one step at a time.  

Employee #3 when you say noone cares, misspelled, everyone cares about the job they are considering unless they are a sociopath. 

If you took the time to watch the video before responding you would have know " Ed Orell stating he is the DIRECTOR of Symmetry Financial Group as of Jan 26th, 2012" a clear statement not relevant to all of the other sport  rhetoric you post.  You said "Send your personal hate mail to Ed, and let the rest of us continue to earn an honest living helping protect families.""Bernie" Madoff" made a living and it seemed honest until the tide went out and everyone could see he had no clothes.  The only hate being posted is on your end, this is a forum of exploration and information.

Next:
"The only complaint I ever heard about SFG is from you."  

You can go to http://www.ripoffreport.com/directory/Symmetry.aspx for additional information or go to Google and search "symmetry financial group scam" for more information.

Employee #4
If you would have read Employee #3 he states "I understand you have some personal issue with Ed, and frankly noone cares. Because someone is affiliated with a company does not make him owner."  You said "He (Ed Orell?) isnt looking for a guy that is going to come on here and complain!" Which is it?? In some business's they call this the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing.

Conclusion:
I was so thankful for the rebuttals, it seems to be apparent that if you are impressed with the comments from the employees from this company, this truly is a company for you.  Hate mail "go work for geico wimp" Employee #4.  
Geico was was founded in 1936 and your website, "domain: symmetryfinancialgroup.com
created: 18-Nov-2009
last-changed: 18-Nov-2011
registration-expiration: 18-Nov-2012"!!!!!!  Your company seems to have such a long track record.

Other comments bring me to the understanding of what this company really stands for.  If their employees were diligent, educated, and work for a better life in America for the Americans they represent we might have had a different level of rebuttal.  I really hope they don't represent Americans.

1) I don't think you are the right person to be correcting grammatical errors. Start by proofreading your own comments. 2) Ed is a director, and an excellent one. Since my sports analogy confused you, let me spell it out. Ed is not one of the owners. 3) Ed does not work for "Bernie". 4) The complaints you refer to are against a company named "Symmetry Direct" It has zero affiliation with Symmetry Financial Group. Does this confuse you? 5) With all of your ranting and personal attacks, you still haven't stated anything of substance. 6) I'm still waiting for that job offer from that superior company you created!

I stated he was a director of SFG, it is clearly stated in his video.  You can go to the link previously posted but I guess you couldn't be bothered.  Just to see if you follow, it's the last video and let's see if you can get it correct this time, http://www.sfgleads.com/testimonials.aspx  Let's not get re-directed, SFG sells leads to the people they hire to the tune of a lot of money.  Great concept but I just can't make money that way. Anyone that reads these and previous notes can see which way the wind blows. We get it, do you?  If you can get to management, sign up lots of unemployed Americans (if they make money or not it's not your problem) and make a lot of money doing that, I believe you might be able to live in the big house on the hill next to the lake.  Please read the book "Where have all the leaders gone" by Lee IacoccaIf.  The problem I have is when executives hide, say they aren't affiliated with a company that has bad reviews, and well I won't go into the rest of the BS.  I grew up in a period of an honest day's work for an honest day's wage.  I'm sure this is a concept that is unknown to you.  I can appreciate the last comment, it is more professional than prior comments that smack of high school verbal fights.  Is this what our country has become??????

This guy's full of it. Obviously you were a rejected applicant. You don't even have a clue how the company operates, yet your ranting an raving on here screwing with people heads, all the while counting the lent in your pockets.
Ed is just ONE employee out of thousand. Through his hard work he has been promoted to manager aka Agency Director of a SINGLE office, out of the many throughout the nation.
Like you said you LOVE Ripoff Report...I wonder how many other companies you took the time to bash, waiting for your 8 hour limit to pass.
PS.. If Ed is a P.O.S. and NAA, and SFG, and obviously you claim to know the intricate history of all three, YET you still applied to SFG and dealt with Ed....what type of P.O.S are you??? The lowest Scum of the Earth...real smart.

Hey Christian..u r awesome dude!  Love the way you answer people!  I just signed up with SFG and can't wait to begin!