Los Angeles, CA
90017
Attention:
John Paul Raygoza
Dear John,
I am writing to you, because I am very frustrated and
disappointed with the way your company has treated me. I have made many
requests for your business to rectify the situation I will describe below. Some
emails have been shortened for editorial purposes and relavance.
On 06/24/2009 Ruel Mitchell from your company phoned
me, and said he represented Incfortune, a company that specializes in free
traffic.
He said Incfortune has been training people to earn an
income on the internet since 2001, and are currently earning 3 – 5 million
dollars a month.
He asked if the calls can be recorded for quality purposes.
When I agreed, he asked me to right down the following;
For a $10,000, Incfortune will do all the work for me, set
up a website, drive free traffic to this site, and my weekly net income is
guaranteed to be between $3 to $5 thousand dollars per week.
For a $15000 investment I will have an income of $9 to $13
thousand per week
For a $30,000
investment I am guaranteed an income of $15,000 to $20,000 per week
He was so specific about these figures, that I was becoming
convinced that this could be a solid fail proof system. I was still somewhat
skeptical.
I asked him if any further investment was required. He said
no, as Incfortune specialized in and has perfected a free traffic system of a
million visitors, that would be directed to my site every day. I will not have
to pay anything extra.
He then asked me how I would like to receive payments if I
qualify – cheques or telegraphic transfer. I said TT.
I said I am interested in the $30000 position, but will
only have the money in 30 days
I looked up www.incfortune.com and all looked legitimate. At the bottom
it even has copyright from 2001 – 2009, giving the impression the company has
been around since 2001
I also searched for scams on Incfortune, but could not find
any. I reasoned that if they have been around since 2001 and were not legit,
somebody would have exposed them.
Little did I know…..
The next day Ruel phoned me, and said if I can come up with
$15000, Incfortune will put up the other $15000, and Incfortune can start my
business immediately.
Incfortune will keep the money for me that my website
earns, until I pay the extra $15000
If I do not make at least $30000 in my first month, I will
get a full refund.
This all sounded very legit to me, because Ruel gave me the
assurance all calls are recorded and the records of these calls will be available to me.
He sounded so full of integrity and professional. I also saw that Incfortune has been
doing business since 2001. It must be a reputable company.
I gave him my credit card details ( Big Mistake)
Merchant :
INCFORTUNE.COM
Date/Time : 25-Jun-2009 04:53:00 PM
Transaction ID : 2492974998
========= ORDER INFORMATION =========
Invoice Number : 2212
Description :
Total : US $5000.00
Payment Method : Visa
==== BILLING INFORMATION ===
INCFORTUNE.COM
Date/Time : 25-Jun-2009 04:53:28 PM
Transaction ID : 2492975420
========= ORDER INFORMATION =========
Invoice Number : 2213
Description :
Total : US $4000.00
Payment Method : VisaFirst Name : John
Merchant :
INCFORTUNE.COM
Date/Time : 25-Jun-2009 04:53:42 PM
Transaction ID : 2492975660
========= ORDER INFORMATION =========
Invoice Number : 2214
Description :
Total : US $1000.00
Payment Method : Visa
Merchant :
INCFORTUNE.COM
Date/Time : 25-Jun-2009 04:57:30 PM
Transaction ID : 2492979265
========= ORDER INFORMATION =========
Invoice Number : 2215
Description :
Total : US $3000.00
Payment Method : Visa
INCFORTUNE.COM
Date/Time : 25-Jun-2009 04:57:42 PM
Transaction ID : 2492979448
========= ORDER INFORMATION =========
Invoice Number : 2216
Description :
Total : US $2000.00
Payment Method : Visa
Merchant :
INCFORTUNE.COM
Date/Time : 10-Jul-2009 05:22:14 PM
Transaction ID : 2513761309
James sent me this
agreement to sign.
I am placing this publicly for anyone to view, as a moral obligation
and duty to warn future potential victims of your most powerful "Trade
Secret"
"Ethics and Marketing don’t mix."
Any lie or deception, no matter how gross or
exagurated, is permissable, taught and encouraged by you, if it will help you
or your staff to get the public's credit card number.
Incfortune
agreement
This agreement
is entered into as of the 25TH of
June 2009 , between INCFORTUNE
Inc.(hereinafter INCFORTUNE of 600 Wilshire Blvd Suite 1470,Los Angeles, California 90017 and John of Saipan (hereinafter
“the User”), pursuant to which the user will be granted use of certain
INCFORTUNE technologies and proprietary trade secrets as set forth
herein. The User, in consideration of his/her present and future business
relationships with INCFORTUNE, Inc , expressly agrees to abide by the terms
contained herein.
1. GENERAL STATEMENTS:
INCFORTUNE invests substantial amounts of
time and funds in the research and development of its technologies, proprietary
trade secrets, educational systems, software, hardware, business, and marketing
solutions (hereinafter “Trade Secrets” shall be used to represent any or all of
the proceeding items.) As such, INCFORTUNE shall at all times maintain
ownership of Trade Secrets and only grants use of them to the User exclusively
under the scope of this agreement. User
agrees that any use of the Trade Secrets noted above and in Section 5 of this
agreement for purposes of selling, trading or otherwise sharing with others for
profit or any other uses outside the scope of this agreement will be deemed of
this confidentiality agreement.
When a breach of
the confidentiality agreement is proven, a liquidated damages liability will
arise in light of the difficulty of measuring the amount of damages of this
breach. User agrees the
amount of the liquidated damages for breach of the confidentiality agreement is
$25,000.
TRADE SECRET
PRODUCTS AND/OR SERVICES :
In exchange for the consideration of $ 15,000.00 the
User shall receive the following custom designed trade secrets products and/or
services.
· Customized Educational Package Description:
· Advanced Training Sessions
· Blogging Mentorship
· PPC Mentorship
· Sales Copy Mentorship
· Live, In-person Coaching (flight & room accommodations
included)
· DVD training videos
· Instant Turnkey Website
The User
understands and agrees that if the custom designed package of trade secrets
products and/or services defined about includes INCFORTUNE’s online website creation,
ecommerce, marketing and business development software, then the User shall
then be responsible to pay a bi-annual hosting fee of $ 118.80 to cover the
costs associated with hosting the User’s website built with FrontAdmin software
and hereby authorizes INCFORTUNE and/or its assigns to charge said monthly
hosting fee (unless otherwise discussed): Monthly amount charged under
following account ( JumpLaunch, Inc.)
Signed:
______________________________
User Initials________
2. SUCCESS STORIES
AND TRUTHFUL STATEMENTS :
The User commits that he/she will be complete, truthful and
honest with regard to his/her statements of success of personal success stories
with regards to the representative he/she makes to INCFORTUNE of the
same. The user hereby grants, irrevocably and perpetually to INCFORTUNE,
its assigns and all others claiming under or through same:
· The right to photograph and record my name, voice, appearance, and
likeness along with any material furnished by me in the whole or in part, in
the Program or any segment of it;
· The right of INCFORTUNE to broadcast by air or cable, exhibit, distribute,
and use throughout the world, the Program or any parts thereof commercially,
including, but not limited to, advertising, or solicitation or purchases;
The user hereby
releases and agrees to indemnify and hold harmless INCFORTUNE, and all others
claiming under or through INCFORTUNE, from any and all loss damage or
liability, (including attorney’s fees) arising by reason of, or in connection
with, the User’s participation, or by materials furnished or matter spoken by
the User, in the Program, or series of Programs, including without limitation,
any expense, damage, or liability for defamation or violation of infringement
of rights, whether they be rights of others violated or infringed by the User
or rights of the User infringed or violated by the User or others.
The user
certifies that he/she has not been paid or compensated in any way for his/her
participation in the Program. The User further certifies that all
material spoken or exhibited by the User was not scripted and represents the
User’s own opinions and beliefs, and is true and correct to the best of the
User’s knowledge.
3. EFFORT BASED :
The User understands and agrees
that the value they will derive from the Trade Secrets products and/or services
will be in direct proportion to the level of effort the User puts forth, their
level of comprehension, his/her individual monetary investments, business
experience, expertise, and level of desire and willingness to take action on
the information provided in the package described herein. INCFORTUNE
provides the vital tools as the foundation of succeeding in an internet
business. Therefore, INCFORTUNE has not, cannot, and will not make any
guarantee of success whether implicit or implied. However, INCFORTUNE does agree to provide service and support to the User
in hopes to obtain the six month and one year financial goals that the User has
determined. If said goals are not obtained in the set time period,
INCFORTUNE agrees to continue to provide support at no additional charge to the
User for up to one additional year or until the User has recouped their initial
financial investment, whichever comes first.
User
Initials________
4. INDEMNITY:
The User agrees to defend,
indemnify and hold INCFORTUNE, and it’s officers, directors, employees,
independent contractors, instructors, coaches and their related companies
harmless from and against all damages, liabilities, costs, losses, expenses,
claims, and/or judgments, including legal costs and reasonable attorney’s fees,
and disbursements which any of them may incur or become obligated to pay
arising out of or resulting from (I.) the activities of the User pursuant to
this agreement (with the exception of willful misconduct on the part of
INCFORTUNE) and (II.) the breach by the User of any of its representation,
warranties, covenants, obligations, agreements or duties under this Agreement
(with the exception of the breach of/or a default under any other agreement,
instrument, order, law or regulation applicable to INCFORTUNE or by which it may
be bound), and claims of injury or otherwise arising from the sales of any
products or services pursuant to this Agreement.
5 . NON-DISCLOSURE/CONFIDENTIALITY :
A. WHEREAS, the User shall receive certain confidential disclosures
and Trade Secrets from INCFORTUNE during its business relationship with
INCFORTUNE.
B. USER EXPRESSLY AGREES that the following terms and conditions
shall govern its use of proprietary Trade Secret information, disclosed to user
by INCFORTUNE define
I. This will confirm that you have received and/or will be receiving
confidential Trade Secrets information relating to specific business and
technical information that is proprietary to INCFORTUNE.
II. This
proprietary Trade Secret information is being disclosed to the User solely for
the purpose as outlined
III. INCFORTUNE considers its proprietary Trade Secret information to
be of value, and is willing to make said Trade Secrets available to the User
only for the purpose stated in this agreement, and only on the following
IV. “Proprietary Trade Secret information” shall mean technical and/or
trade information relating to specific proprietary technical, customer, vendor
or application information not generally known to the public, disclosed by
INCFORTUNE or on their behalf to the User, either directly or indirectly, in
conversations, in writing, by drawings (whether or not identified in writing or
Verbally “confidential”), or through inspection of process, part or technical
prototypes of one party by the other party. All such proprietary
information shall remain the sole property of the disclosing party, and upon
the disclosing party’s request, you agree to return any and all materials
relating to the proprietary information including prototypes, reports, drawings,
tools, notes, equipment, plans, proposals, and reproduction or representations
of any and all such materials on any medium whatsoever which may come into your
possession relating to the proprietary information.
User Initials________
IV. The fact that the proprietary Trade Secret information, or any
part thereof, may be linked together by search of publications and other
publicly available information. Following a selection of a series of
items, and of knowledge from unconnected sources, and fitting together of those
items of knowledge so as to duplicate and recreate any of said proprietary
information originally disclosed by INCFORTUNE to be excluded from definition
of the proprietary information I. Item III. Section 1 above.
V. Neither this Agreement nor any disclosure made hereunder shall
constitute a waiver of any patent or other rights, or a grant of license under
any patent, invention, or know-how of the disclosing party.
6. MISCELLANEOUS: The parties to this Agreement are independent contractors.
Nothing in this Agreement implies or may be construed to imply joint venture or
employer/employee relationship. Beyond the terms and conditions of this
Agreement, neither party shall be required to perform any obligation or assume
any liability for the other.
D. No amendment, modification, change or waiver of the Agreement or
any provision hereof shall be valid, unless in writing and signed by all of the
parties hereto.
E. No waiver by any party hereto of any breach of the Agreement or
any of it’s provisions shall be deemed to constitute a waiver of any preceding
or succeeding breach of the same or any other provision hereof.
F. The date of execution for this contract shall be the date that
financial transaction occurs or takes place. This contract becomes
executable on said date. Receipt of this contract construes
acknowledgment and agreement with the aforementioned terms. Company
shall, on a best efforts basis, attempt to deliver said contract to recipient
on said date. This contract can only be voided within the first three business
days, and will be subject to a 15% processing fee on any said termination of
programs. User is required to send in a certified letter stating the refusal of
all services rendered by INCFORTUNE, postdated within the 3 business days as
mandated by this contract. Business days consist of Monday – Saturday. User may also cancel within 30 days of
contract execution and receive a refund of 15% of the total paid.
User Initials________
G. This Agreement constitutes the entire understanding and agreement
of the parties with the respect to its subject matter and any and all prior and
contemporaneous agreements, understanding or representations with respect to
its subject matter are hereby terminated and cancelled in their entirety and
are of no further force and effect.
H. Nothing contained herein shall be construed so as to require the
commission of any act contrary to law, and wherever there is any conflict
between any provision contained herein and any present of future statute, law,
ordinance, or regulation contrary to which the parties have no legal right to
the contract, the latter shall prevail, but the provisions of this agreement
which is affected shall be curtailed and limited to the extent necessary to
bring it within the requirement of the law. If any provision of this
agreement is determined to be invalid or unenforceable in whole or in part,
such as invalidity or enforceability shall attach only to such provision and
part thereof and the remaining part of such provision and all other provisions
hereof shall continue in full force and effect. The rights of INCFORTUNE
under this agreement may be assigned without the prior consent of any other
party. The User shall be resolved by arbitration conducted in accordance
with the Commercial Rules then in Effect of the American Arbitration
Association. Such arbitration shall be held in the City of Los Angeles,
CA. Judgment upon award rendered shall be final and irrefutable and may
be entered in any court having jurisdiction. Each party shall be
permitted to enforce any judgment or writ or attach in any court having jurisdiction.
The prevailing party shall be entitled to recover its costs and reasonable
attorney’s fees, arbitration court costs, and other cost incurred in connection
with any such proceedings.
User Initials________
IN WITNESS WHEREOF , The User hereby understands and agrees to all
of the terms and conditions as defined herein and hereby agrees to provide said
funding of $15,000.00 to
INCFORTUNE, in the form of a credit
card payment through the
following INCFORTUNE merchant account, or affiliate account: INCFORTUNE, or JUMPLAUNCH, or YOURAFFILIATESUCCESS . Sent by the following
for the products and/or services defined herein:
When I read the agreement, it was entirely a
different story
It only offered 15% refund within 30 days, and did not
guarantee any income. It stated it was effort based.
On June 28/2009 I phoned Ruel, and said I am not willing to
sign this agreement, as it was vastly different from what he promised me.
He said that the agreement is drawn up by lawyers and does
not state the true intent and agreement of the company. It is only drawn up to
protect the propriety free traffic methods
When I asked him if I should write his promises on a
separate paper and add it to the agreement, he said, no, the company cannot
start my website unless the agreement is signed just as it is.
He assured me again that all calls are recorded, so I do
not have to be concerned.
I already paid, so felt committed, but also
concerned. I sent this email to James Murphy on 06/28/2009.
(Some emails have been shortened for relevance)
Hi James,
I have signed the agreement with the understanding and assurance from Rule Mitchell, that I will recoup my investment within 2.5 weeks from the time I pay the second $15000. Rule gave me his verbal promise, that his company will give me a full refund if I do not recoup my investment in the stated time.
He also said the intent of this agreement is primarily to protect their copyright and propriety methods of marketing.
With this understanding, I submit this signed agreement. If I misunderstood anything, please let me know.
Respectfully,
John
When James did not refute the above, I wrongly assumed that
he was in agreement with what I have written down.
Little did I know, that he was fully aware of Ruel’s lies,
but relied on the signed agreement to brush me off should I protest
Silence can only
be equated with fraud when there is a legal or moral duty to speak, or when an
inquiry left unanswered would be intentionally misleading…. We cannot condone
this shocking conduct.. If that is the case we hope our message is clear. This
sort of deception will not be tolerated and if this is routine it should be
corrected immediately”
U.S.
v. Tweel. 550 F2d 297. 299-300
Ruel
was so convincing and reassuring, and James did not deny what I wrote. I talked
my wife into lending me the extra $15000.
==== BILLING
INFORMATION ===
Customer ID :
First Name : John
Merchant :
INCFORTUNE.COM
Date/Time : 10-Jul-2009 05:22:14 PM
Transaction ID : 2513761309
========= ORDER INFORMATION =========
Invoice Number :
Description : IncFortune, Inc Order
Total : US $15000.00
Payment Method : MasterCard
As I know for my wife to be involved, I had to be
100% sure that you are legit, and I submitted this email to Joseph Murphy, whom
Ruel has said was one of the owners of the company
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009
3:16 PM
To: James Murphy
Subject: RE: IncFortune
Service Agreement
Hi James,
After reading this agreement and signing it, I have some grave concerns, and hope you can clarify the situation for me.
Rule Mitchell assured me, that the intent of this agreement is to protect your company from anyone stealing your propriety
copyrights and systems. All the legal terms were drawn up by lawyers to protect your company. What he gave me his word on, is very different from this agreement.
He made the following statements 1. If I do not make my investment back in 30 days, yourcompany will give me a full refund, and not the 15% as per the agreement.
2. Even if I do no work or make no effort, I still will be on the $15,000 to $20,000 per week income level, as your company does the work for me.
3. If I put in effort, I can even earn more than that. He assured me that even though this is not in writing, all calls are recorded and monitored I have not recorded his calls, but I have written down what he said.
Integrity is of the utmost importance to me, and I cannot be involved in any activity or business that does not have
transparency, honesty and integrity as it's basis.
I do like Rule very much, and I do like the professional look of you website. As I have not seen your products and protocol, or met you in person to verify all of the above, would you please verify that all that Rule said to me, is indeed supported and backed up by your company.
If all of the above is indeed true as I believe it is, I look forward very much to be part of your organization
On this basis I sign and agree to abide by the agreement
Sincerely,
John
Here
follows the reply from James Murphy;
Subject: RE: IncFortune
Service Agreement
Date: Wednesday, July 15,
2009, 8:31 AM
John,
What you have been told by Rule is indeed possible
( Fruad ) We
will do majority of the work for you and have you generating revenue very soon.
You will be flown out to LA next Monday; I am scheduling your flights today.
Thank
You,
James Murphy
I received a call from Ana,
a very nice sounding Lady. The same as Ruel, she asked if it is okay that this
call is recorded. She asked to confirm our names, and the numbers of our credit
cards. I stated for the record that Ruel have given me his word, and James has
said that is indeed possible to get a full refund if I do not make the $30000
back in 30 days.
We flew out to Los Angeles ,
and were picked up at the airport by a limousine and taken to meet David Sipes,
who took us to your Malibu Mansion .
In spite of my initial misgivings, I felt more reassured. At the Mansion, I
asked David if it is true that I can get the $30000 refunded if I don’t make
$30000 in my first month.
He gave the same answer as James –
that yes, it is indeed possible. ( FRAUD )
I still did not know who the real
owner was. Only later the next day did I
meet John Raygoza, the true owner of Incfortune.
Nobody I asked told me this
before.
In hindsight, I realize why
your identity cannot be made known to prospective clients. Reading comments about you and Pushtraffic on
the internet, is not conducive to good business. Had I seen that before, I
never would have agreed to give you any money.
Alan gave a lecture on
copywriting and said his main website for making money is one on acne removal.
He said refunds are not really a
problem, as most people are too busy or forget to ask for a refund. I was
curious that Alan himself had quite a few acne. The remedy he was promoting was
obviously not working for him.
Only later did I understand why.
You actually laughed when you
said the remedy was to put some candle wax on the acne. You said whether what
you sell works or not, is not really important, as long as our sales copy is
good.
You taught us about advertizing
on Google through pay per click. You searched on Clickbank, picked the highest
converting sales offer, did not even look or investigate whether it had any
merit or truth, and advertised it on Google.
I was disturbed by your lack of
integrity, but thought perhaps you just were in a hurry.
On Friday July 24 we turned
up at your office in LA, and I waited for all the work to be done for us as was
promised.
When I finally saw that we got
the same website and opportunity that I paid $118 for in May, I was deeply
shocked.
The JumpLaunch Team
ORDER SUMMARY
Order Number............ 74283
Web Hosting............. $118.00
Setup................... $0.00
Sales Date.............. 2009/05/13 23:24:02
Domain..................
(((Redacted)))
You were not there, so I wrote this email to David Sipes.
Hi David,
It sure is a pleasure to get to know you as well.
I need some help.
When Rule convinced me to invest in your company, on my questioning him, he
assured me verbally numerous times, that your company will put me on the $15000
to $20000 per week income level, without any effort on my part. He asked me to
write down that your company will do ALL the work for me. He said it is all
done by free traffic, and I don't have to invest anything more. He said if I
put in effort and spend money on ppc, I will earn more than that.
He also gave me his word, that if I don't make my investment of $30,000 back
within 30 days, your company will give me a FULL refund.
When I got the agreement to sign after I paid, almost nothing of what he
promised was on the agreement.
When I questioned him about the discrepancy between what he promised and the
agreement, he said the agreement was drawn up by lawyers primarily to protect
the propriety free traffic methods of your company, and did not reflect the
true intent of what your company undertakes to deliver.
When I asked him to put in writing what he promised, Rule assured me that all
calls are recorded and reviewed by your company. He assured me that he cannot
say anything on the phone, that can not be backed up by Incfortune.
Rule assured me very emphatically, that he gave me his WORD on this.
He said these recorded calls are available to myself for proof and confirmation.
I also expressed my concerns in writing to James Murphy when
I emailed him the signed agreement back, he stated that it was indeed possible.
Teak is a wonderful person and very helpful.
When I asked him about what Rule Mitchell promised me, his response did
not inspire me with much confidence either. He said we can talk outside.
I love all the people I have met so far associated with your company
I am very impressed with yourself, John and what I have seen so far.
Integrity is hugely important to me, because I have to look at myself in the
mirror every day.
If all Rule said is true, I would love to promote your company and be a
valuable asset to you.
Right now, I have some alarm bells ringing.
What I need to know, is whether I was lied to and conned by Rule Mitchell just
to get my money, or if what he assured me of verbally, is indeed the truth.
Would you please be so kind as to clarify this for me?
Warmly and sincerely,
John
( As of today’s date – No Response from
David Sipes .) ( FRAUD )
An hour later you turned up.
I immediately asked you for a
refund.
You refused to honor Ruel’s and
David’s verbal promise, as well as James written promise.
You said you will only give me
15% of $30000
I said this was clearly
fraud and Ruel had to be held responsible. You said that you were not going to
hold Ruel responsible for his obvious lies. You said that you already paid him
the commission.
I could not understand why you
would be so comfortable in not holding your sales staff responsible for such
blatant lies and deception.
You said that you were aware that
your sales people told lies. That is why you protected yourself with the
lawyer’s letter.
I asked to speak with Ruel.
You accused me of being a
criminal instead, and ask me to leave your office.
I was deeply shocked.
On July 27 I wrote this
email
Subject: RE: IncFortune Service Agreement
Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 12:07 AM
Hi John,
It was unfortunate that I left your office on such a sour note. With all due .respect, calling me a criminal because my clinic was raided for healing a sick boy with cancer, was a bit low.
I wish to extend the hand of friendship one more time. If you read this entire email to the bottom, you will realize that the agreement I signed, was attached to this email, I did not fax it through on its own.
This entire email is therefore the basis of me signing your agreement. and that will stand up in any court. I would recommend you show this email to your legal counsel if you have any doubts.
Rule Mitchell did tell the truth as he knew it, simply because you have trained all your salespeople to say the same things. I heard them repeat the same things to other prospective clients while I was in your office. What I now ask of you, is to back up in action what Rule promised me per your instructions. and what was written in this email
You emailed me to visit you
office again, and I turned up on 8/5/09 as agreed. In your defense, you did
apologize for calling me a criminal You then wanted to make a
video of me saying how much I endorse your company and products, and upload it
on my site.
I said that I cannot lie,
as your company or products have not worked for me.
You replied;
Quote “
Ethics And
Marketing Don’t Mix
.” End of quote.
David Sipes agreed
and said I have to fake it till I make it.
When I refused to lie so openly,
you both lost interest and said you will fly me out to LA again at a later date
In spite of all the previous
evidence I was deeply disturbed and shocked again that it is your standard
practice to deceive the public without any regard to the harm you are causing,
and obviously breaking the law.
On August 12 I wrote this email
Hi JP,
I had some real excitement when I got back.
My wife threatened to call the police
and report the $15000 I borrowed from her as stolen, as what Ruel promised me
is almost all lies, and I talked her into it believing what Ruel promised me to
be true.
When no reply I wrote this on
August 14
Hi J,
I really need help.
My wife has nearly driven me mad.
Would you please, please give me
the refund as Ruel promised?
Can you kindly let me know ?
J
As of today’s date – no response.
On August 15 I wrote this
email
Hi John,
I have honestly tried my best to find a solution to
make this work for both of us, but I have come up against insurmountable
obstacles.
When I visited your office on 8/5/09, you asked me to record on video
saying how great this business is to me. When I said I cannot lie, you
said ethics and marketing don't mix.
David Sipes said I have to fake it till I make it. In other words I have
to lie till I make it.
Frank Liggett contacted me, and said Joseph
Murphy promised him
$15000 to $25000 per week for $10,000 - virtually the same as was
promised me, but I had to pay $30,000.
It was not stated upfront that I have to pay $20,000 extra for a
limousine ride, more luxurious accommodation and half a day extra with
Taek to put up my picture on my website and open a face book account. I
am very capable to upload my own picture and set up my own facebook
account as I have already done that .
Ruel also
assured me that I have to pay no extra money, as ALL sales are generated
by free traffic.
When it came down to implementing your system, you clearly said the most
effective way to get a list of buyers and sales is by pay per
click advertising
Had I known that, I obviously would never have had my cc overdrawn by
$600, and borrowed $15000 from my wife to pay for your program.
I have no way of paying extra for advertising.
On top of that, at least 50% of your own adverts are condemned by Google as being inappropriate or
irrelevant. That fact did not inspire me with much confidence either.
You have also ignored my repeated request for the contact details for
Ruel.
When I requested a refund from you because it was obvious Ruel had
blatantly lied to me, you asked me if I have received the plane
tickets, the limousine ride, stay at the Malibu Mansion , and chef prepared meals.
Nothing was mentioned about the money that was promised to me.
I wanted to straighten this out with Ruel, as he made the promises.
I phoned your company to get Ruel's contact details. Patrick said
he no longer works for your company. Ana also said he left about a month
ago
When I visited you on 8/5/09, you said Ruel was there to meet me, but had
to leave early.
Your staff obviously told the truth in this case, you obviously lied.
According to the law, if you cover up a known criminal act, you are part
of it.
As I have written when I submitted the signed agreement, I cannot be
involved in anything unethical and without integrity.
As you have stated that you do not regard ethics as important in
marketing, and also train your affiliates and sales staff in deceiving
the public to get sales, I simply cannot encourage anyone to do business
with you, as I do not wish for anyone to be treated the way I have been
treated by you and your company.
I simply am not willing to sell my soul for money and knowingly deceive
the public.
I will be breaking the law, and will make myself vulnerable to be
criminally prosecuted
Based on the above, I cannot promote your products or be part of your
organization with a clear conscious.
There is therefore no way for me to recoup my investment being associated
with your company.
If you can understand this and give me the refund as Ruel gave me his
word your company would do, plus confirmed in writing by Joseph Murphy
that it is possible, plus confirmed by David Sipes at the Malibu Mansion
that it is possible, we can part as friends, and I will forget the
emotional trauma, embarrassment and waste of my valuable time.
If you feel that my request is unreasonable, I am sure you
can appreciate that I will have no other option but to draw up the
necessary documents, and
ask appropriate authorities and media to assist me.
Please understand, that time has run out on this issue.
If you ignore this email or do not respond Within 48 hours in a way that
is fair and equitable to me, by lack of responding you agree that all of
the above is accurate and I am entitled to a full refund, plus
compensation for being knowingly and intentionally deceived and lied to
by your company.
Looking forward to your favorable response.
Yours sincerely,
John
Your reply August 15
John,
We want to resolve this matter and it’s going to
require us to talk over the phone with Ruel. What time is a good time for you?
John Raygoza
When no phone call with Ruel eventuated,
I replied on 8/17/09
Hi
John,
I am so relieved you want to
resolve this matter.
I wish to extend one more
courteous opportunity to your company, to correct what has become a very unfair
and difficult situation for me.
Here are the simple facts
and truth.
When I submitted in writing
to Joseph
Murphy what Ruel promised
me and assured me of verbally, he clearly knew that Ruel lied to me and
deliberately and intentionally had deceived me. As part owner or at least CEO,
he knew that what Ruel promised me is not standard procedure and he also knew
that you would not support that. He chose to be part of the deception, by not
telling me and yourself immediately that Ruel had lied and committed fraud.
He was relying on your very
clever and highly "slanted in your favor" legal agreement, to use as
leverage to brush me off and ignore me should I ask for what Ruel has promised.
David Sipes did exactly the same
verbally, by saying it is possible.
They all knew form past
experience, that most consumers are ignorant or helpless, and do not have the
time, money or resources to fight you in court.
Like you said, you have been in
court seven times in one day.
Ana also chose not tell you
immediately that something was wrong, when I clearly recorded that a full
refund was promised to me should I not make the $30,000 back within 30 days.
You yourself also did not blink
an eye when I told you about Ruel's deliberate and intentional deception and
fraudulent statements.
Instead, you immediately checked
whether I had signed your agreement, which makes it virtually impossible for
anyone that has been cheated by you, to win in court.
American
Express and Paypal have a reputation for being on the
side of the consumer, and will not stand your deceptive practices. The fact
that you do not accept any of those reputable and widely acceptable payment
methods that is offered by most reputable companies, is further proof that you
know and are comfortable that you and your staff knowingly deceive the public.
When I said I will have to ask my cc company to reverse the charges, you looked
very smug when you told me I can do that, but I will see the charges back in
two days.
You know that MasterCard and Visa require a lot more proof, and
it is more difficult to get them to reverse the charges.
“The
confidence a company has in the quality of their products, is reflected in
their guarantee”
Quote - unknown
From my 28 years of business
experience, I know that to be true.
As you have only 15% confidence
in the quality of your product Incfortune, it would have been unthinkable
of me to accept your 15% refund offer.
It is the lowest refund offer I
have ever encountered anywhere.
Only Reul's verbal
assurance that the agreement is solely to protect your "copy written free
traffic" methods, and the fact that he very empathetically gave me his Word on it, and Joseph's written statement
that it is possible to get the refund, and Ana's acceptance of my recorded
statement, made me go ahead.
As of today's date, I have had no
free traffic or any sales.
Teak, who is supposed to do the
work for me, has also not sent me the passwords to the website.
This conclusive evidence
clearly provides indisputable evidence and proof that it is standard and normal
practice in your company to intentionally and deliberately deceive the public
on a large scale.
There are at least two people,
Yeun Young David and Eileen McCutcheon among the
many that I found on the Internet, that have felt so hurt and damaged by your
deceptive actions, that they are considering a class action law suit against
you.
This is only a partial list of
your fraudulent and deceptive actions that I have recorded and noticed. I will
only reveal the rest as a last resort.
You can prove the above
statements and facts wrong very easily.
Give me an immediate and
courteous refund within the next 48 hours, and hold Ruel Mitchell, Joseph
Murphy, David Sipes and Ana responsible for deliberately and intentionally
deceiving me, and or condoning the deception and fraud of Ruel.
In defense of Ana, I must admit
that she was the only one that sounded a bit surprised when I mentioned the
refund guarantee.
From my experience, she could be
one of the few honest people in your office.
However, I wish to give you
and your company one more opportunity to act as ethical, honorable and decent
human beings.
If you refuse to do what is right
and fair by me and give me the full refund within the next 48 hours, you leave
me no choice but to take the next step.
By refusing to give me the full
refund of $30,000 within the next 48 hours, your refusal will serve as
indisputable proof, that you and your staff have knowingly and willingly
deceived me, and that you also encourage and allow your staff and sales people to
do the same to the public.
This evidence will be submitted
to the appropriate authorities.
I must admit, I’m very
disappointed with what has happened and unhappy that your
business has not resolved this
problem in a fair and equitable way.
Looking forward to your
favorable and honorable response now.
Sincerely,
John
Your response August 18
John,
Let’s setup a conference call for today at 4 p.m.
PST (9 a.m. Your time).
Unfortunately Ruel cannot be on this call because
he’s traveling at the moment, however, we don’t really need him on the call.
Especially since this matter is between you and IncFortune.
Now, I noticed you’re trying to advise us of other
customers – however, we are not dealing with their issues, we are dealing with
your issue. Let’s keep it that way.
As far as Amex , Mastercard, or Visa
is concern – there is no way Visa or Mastercard will favor you in this case so
we are not scared of a chargeback. We’ve processed millions online and we’d be
“complete fools” if we didn’t know how to secure our money.
Moving onward, we have also stated that we want to
help you make money online – the kind of money Ruel was talking about. It’s all
possible but you need to participate in the process – it seems as if you’re
trying to get out of doing the work (just my opinion).
That being said, I want the call to focus around
“making money” - rather than trying to get a refund. We are not interested in
giving you a refund; however, we are interested in helping you make money
online.
What do say John?
Re:
Breach of Contract
Thursday, August 20, 2009 8:42 Pm
Hi John,
Yesterday I was so relieved to hear you say that
you and Joseph will deliver what Ruel has promised. You said you will
draw up a new plan and call me today.
I postponed my other duties and waited for your
call.
As of this evening - nothing - no plan, no call,
no correspondence.
With all due respect, I want to bring it to your
attention that you are currently in breach of contract.
Failure to fulfill what you said you would do by
tomorrow evening, will constitute and confirm an acknowledgment on your
part, that you are in breach of our contract.
You mentioned that it is your opinion that
I do not want to work. Yesterday Joseph also asked me the same question.
In case you still harbor that opinion, may I
answer it this way.
Just imagine for a moment you take your
Mercedes to be repaired, and the mechanic says it is going to cost you
$30,000. You agree and pay him up front. He then says for his company to
begin the work, you have to sign an agreement. What he promised to do and
what is in the agreement is vastly different. When you object, he
assures you verbally that the agreement is drawn up by lawyers to protect
the company's repair methods, and not to worry about it. If your car is
not repaired to your satisfaction, he gives you his word you will get all
your money back.
He sounds trustworthy, and assures you all
conversations are recorded. Because you have already paid, and want your
car fixed, you trust him.
When you come to collect your car, the
mechanic is nowhere to be seen. The owner however turns up, and entertain
you lavishly with chef prepared meals and accommodation which you enjoy
and accept, waiting for your car.
When you finally see your car, nothing has been
done.
When you ask the owner to complete the
repairs or give you your money back as the mechanic has promised, he gets
angry, mentions all the entertainment he has done, and accuses you of
being a criminal.
He also refuses your repeated requests to speak
with the mechanic.
A week later he invites you back to his
workshop. He apologizes for calling you a criminal. Then ask you to
state on camera how happy you are with his service.
When you object to lying on camera, he says
repairing cars and ethics don't mix.
A week later you still don't have your car.
When you ask him for a refund again, he says it
seems as if you are trying to get out of doing any work.
The above story might sound ridiculous,
but there are others that seem to have had the same experience.
I quote a former client of yours:
"The sad
thing is that they never did any work. That's right--- they did nothing
and yet expected to get $2399 for doing nothing."
John
Columbia
With all due respect, your opinion that I do not want to work, is
simply without merit and I find that offensive. My track record proves
that.
Furthermore, Joseph asked me questions
about my life that were a bit strange and made me feel uneasy. Like why
did I want to buy a Gas Station with the money I earn, when we just walk
on the
island ?
This morning when you did not call, I became
more suspicious.
I could be entirely wrong, and if I am, please
ignore this. If Joseph tried to trap me into saying something that later
could be used to defame me or against me, I make the following
disclaimer:
"Anything that was said to Joseph yesterday
during our conversation, does not necessarily reflect my believes or
opinions, and all liabilities are limited to that."
If I do not hear from you by tomorrow with
a solid, ethical plan to be on the $15000 to $20000 per week income as
Ruel and you promised, you leave me no other choice but to start on the
next step.
Sincerely,
John
INTERNET SERVICES
CONTRACT SUPPLEMENT
This agreement between
John (hereinafter customer)and IncFortune, Inc. (hereinafter company) is made
as a supplement to the contract between the two parties entered into on
July 10, 2009. That
original agreement remains in full force and effect and is incorporated by
reference as though fully set forth herein.
The customer agrees to waive any further claims for
any refund either full or in part. In exchange for said waiver, company
agrees to go beyond the terms of the original agreement by providing customer
with the first 1000 leads for his internet business.
This supplemental agreement is made in the spirit of
reigniting the relationship between the parties in their search for internet
business success.
This new offer is for 1000 leads that according to you will cost you
$300. That is not what I paid $30,000 for. Neither is it a solid plan for
myself earning what Ruel has promised.
I was very disappointed that I had been lied to once again.
On 8/22/09 I wrote this;
Dear James and John,
Thank
you for the new offer. I have to decline this, due to the following reasons.
You
are now clearly in breach of contract.
1.
The basis that I entered and signed your agreement is that everything I do,
must be ethical. John has asked me to lie on video. When I objected, he
said ethics and marketing don't mix. He asked me to break the law.
BBB
have given you an "F" rating for Pushtraffic. These are their
comments;
"We strongly question the company’s reliability for
reasons such as that they have failed to respond to complaints,
their
advertising is grossly misleading , they are not in compliance with the
law’s licensing or registration requirements,
their
complaints contain especially serious allegations, or the company’s industry is
known for its fraudulent business practices."
As
pushtraffic is owned by John, the same applies to INCFORTUNE.
"The
way we do anything, is the way we do everything"
Quote
Harv T Ecker.
That
plus the numerous serious complaints of your clients on the internet, proves
that that you are habitually breaking the law and deceiving the public
This
in itself is a criminal act, with very serious potential ramifications.
The
information above, is indubitable evidence of your willful misconduct
I
would remind you of Paragraph4
1. INDEMNITY:
The User agrees to defend, indemnify and hold INCFORTUNE, and it’s officers, directors,
employees, independent contractors, instructors, coaches and their related
companies harmless from and against all damages, liabilities, costs, losses,
expenses, claims, and/or judgments, including legal costs and reasonable
attorney’s fees, and disbursements which any of them may incur or become
obligated to pay arising out of or resulting from (I.) the activities of the
User pursuant to this agreement part of INCFORTU (with the exception of willful misconduct on the
part of INCFORTUNE ) and (II.) the breach by the User of any of its
representation, warranties, covenants, obligations, agreements or duties under
this Agreement (with the exception of the breach of/or a default under any
other agreement, instrument, order, law or regulation applicable to INCFORTUNE
or by which it may be bound), and claims of injury or otherwise arising from the
sales of any products or services pursuant to this Agreement.
2. Verbally it was
promised by Ruel, and confirmed by Joseph and David Sipes as being possible,
that your company will set up my business so that I will earn between $15000
and $20000 per week.
It
is now more than 60 days after my initial investment. I have earned Zero money
as of today's date
That
is willful misconduct - Ruel intentially lied to me, and David and Joseph did
not correct that.
3.
Joseph has written it is possible, David have said it is possible, and Ruel has
given me his solemn word, that I am entitled to a full refund should I not make
my investment back within 30 days.
I
have written that condition as the basis on which I have signed your agreement,
and you have accepted that.
You
have continually refused my request for a refund
That
is willful misconduct
4.
In your agreement, you state that you will provide service and help for me to
build my business.
The
only person that is qualified to teach me, is someone that is currently earning
between $15000 to $20000 per week himself or herself
Teak,
the man you have given to help me, is not qualified to help me, as he is a
technician. He has no experience of earning money on the internet
He
has so far had 2 sessions with me. Ten days ago, I asked him to send me
the login details of my accounts that he has setup - as of today -no response.
That
is willful misconduct
5.
Ruel Mitchell has promised me that all traffic for my site will come from free
traffic, and I don’t have to spend any more money. He also gave me his word
that I will get a full refund if I don't make the $30000 back in 30 days. He
also said I am on a higher income level, because I paid more. Those were all
blatant lies. The other participants at the
Malibu Mansion paid $10000 for the same promised
income level.
Your
sales staff are all trained to tell the same or similar lies - by Incfortune,
Pushtraffic or Jumplaunch. As you have never denied that, it is an undeniable
fact that you are fully aware of.
That
is willful misconduct, and breaking the law intentionally.
Under
paragraph One you have this statement. User agrees the amount of the liquidated damages for
breach of the confidentiality agreement is $25,000.
What is good for you, is also good for your
clients, wouldn’t you agree?
You have breached the
contractual agreement, by breaking the law and willful misconduct.
Your breaching of the contract has caused me considerable
physical, mental and emotional trauma, as well loss of time and income by
having to focus on resolving this issue.
By not resolving this issue to my satisfaction
within the next 48 hours, you agree that $25000 will be fair compensation to
me, above the $30,000 to be refunded.
Sincerely,
John
Your
reply on 08/23/2009
John -
At this point we feel as if you’re playing
games with us. We are no longer interested in revising any existing written
agreement between YOU and “IncFortune”.
IncFortune has nothing to do with PushTraffic,
Inc, nor the “F” rating.
Therefore we have contacted our processor and
attorney and we are prepared to enter a dispute if you elect to do so. Keep in
mind after the dispute is settled in our favor we will no longer service or
support you since you breached the contract.
If you elect to work together, then we need your
undivided attention and cooperation.
Best,
John
From your response, I was satisfied
that you have no intention to act in an honorable way, and decided to draw up
this document.
With your site www.infortune.com you became even bolder with your
willful deception of the public.
At the bottom you display this -
copyright @ 2001 - 2009
Fact – You started work for a hosting company in 2001, but
Incfortune was only started on 18 January 2009 (whois) This was also verbally
confirmed by you.
This is yet another irrefutable example of your twisting
the truth, with intention to deliberately deceive and defraud the public
When you go to your other website www.jumplaunch.com , the following buttons are on
display at the bottom;
BEST WINNER 2007, TOP PICK 2007 and EDITORS CHOICE
During our training on your Malibu mansion, you laughed and joked that
you yourself actually voted and picked your own service as the best.
At the time it shocked me
that you were so comfortable, and even found it funny that you intentionally
lie and deceive the public.
The following testimonials of
your costumers, makes it obvious that they do not share your sense of humor.
Complaints
desktopserver.com/ john - paul - raygoza -and-push-traffic-inc-pushtrafficcom
www. yuendavid -resources.com/2009/0
www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/461/RipOff0461638.html
(((Redacted)))
(((Redacted)))
(((Redacted)))
Push Traffic Scam and John Ragoza Scam
I gave $2400 to this company. The same night red
flags started popping up [after they had my card info]. When I asked to talk
with the man that signed me up they told me NO. I thought this was odd as he
had just told me that he would be the one working with me?!@* What the heck#*!
There were other flags as well-- so I decided to
ask for my money back. I wrote a letter and called PushTraffic. No one bothered
to call me and email me. However - just as soon as Visa got my money back they
started calling. What a joke. They even called on Christmas Eve.
The sad thing is that they never did any work.
That's right--- they did nothing and yet expected to get $2399 for doing
nothing.
Stay clear from both John Ragoza and Push Traffic
unless you want to part with several thousand dollars and get nothing in
return.
John Columbia
PushTraffic are definitely ripping people off.
I got scammed for a ridiculous 5 figure amount.
AND they DID promise to a lot for me. Ted Molina said he would set me up with
an autopilot income. After I paid, he would not answer my emails. Another 2
sales guys bled me for more money to design websites I never got plus pre-paid
Google PPC campaigns. When I got angry JPR himself offered a credit that I
still haven't received.
Don't get sucked in by these smooth talkers!
Henry Sydney Australia
hey charged me over $10,000 for services which were never done.
I have emails and contracts delineating what they will do, yet nothing was
done. I answered their ad in fall of 2007 to get traffic for my new affiliate
website. The ad said there would be a monthly fee for service. Then John
called. He was so nice, I agreed to an upgraded plan and paid him $2348 for
daily search engine submissions with reports, search engine optimization and a
professional redo of my website.
None of it happened except for changing my
website. They actually replaced my page with one for their business. They
called weekly, gave me small assignments to do, which I did and kept promising
me $7000 weekly checks. Never Happened.
Long story short, I gave them over $10,000. Then
they stopped calling. I filed a report with the BBB who contacted him. He told
them he had sent me a full refund. Well, that never happened either. Now, I'm
going to find an LA lawyer and sue him for the money.
So, I repeat, DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH JOHN RAGOZA
or PUSH TRAFFIC
I believe there are enough victims out there for a
class action suit against this guy who has the guts to go on video bragging
about being a millionaire.
Eileen McCutcheon
emack321@gmail.com
Push Traffic is one of the more expensive scams
on the Internet. After posting five figures I
received virtually "nothing." My coach
was a joke that could not answer a single legitimate question about the
company, or how I was to profit from the website I received (which promoted
products you could get on your own for little or no cost). I called several
times to get information, but to no avail. I will pursue measures to get a
refund or take action to expose this company as the scam it is
Douglas
Menlo Park
CA
I was taken for over 6 thousand by push traffic. They took all
the money out of my credit card and said I needed to be in the mastermind level
in order to see results and that even though I am just a newbie to the internet
that is what they said . Joel , the marketing director is the one who took my
money and would not return it after I complained and John will not call me back
or answer any emails or reply to my letters I sent him. I did enroll and agreed
to 2400 but when the time came to start Joel told me he needed 3000 more and
with out my consent took it out of my credit and now I am overdrawn and over my
limit and in debt. As for the service from push traffic I get 1 hour every 2
weeks with a coach and have not made 1 penny form their help. I am at a loss as
to what to do and how to get my 3000 back
Tim Everett WA
I urge you and ANYONE
else who has been scammed by PushTraffic and/or its representatives to contact
Diane (email provided in her Feb post - see above). I have spoken with Diane,
and her experiences are similar to mine.
(They canceled a seminar in Australia without
notice. They owe me over $US10,000.)
We now have 3 people who will (together) be taking
our complaints to the authorities. The more people we can assemble, the more
power we'll have. If you want your money back, then please email Diane. I will
be meeting with her personally in
Australia
to get
this action started. Please join us.(You won't get any refunds from
PushTraffic. I have been trying for over 12 months.)
John Raygoza put $10,000. USD on my Credit card Oct 08 and
promised me a website that would be up and running immediately and start
generating income. He told me that I would have enough money made to pay the
full amount of the credit card by the time I recieved the bill. Well, once he
took my money it didn't happen. I tried to get my money back, but couldn't so I
tried to get it back through my Master Card and they wouldn't do anything
because they said I autherized the transaction. So here it is April/09 and I'm
trying to make payments not on $10,000. USD but on $12,000. CD. In other words
I'm screwed. They are nothing but a rip off.
Mary Richards
Winnipeg
Canada
I, too, can shed some light on this topic.but I'm
suspicious about anyone who praises this crowd.
I'll let the FBI find out where Raygoza's real
money came from, but that is not my subject.My concern is getting my money
back.
Pushtraffic intruded into my life in May, 2009,
and I have been shaking my head at my own gullibility ever since.
However, as I could see the company had a physical
presence, it did not seem like a fly-by-night scamster from across the road.
I was intending to buy into the best level -$15k
at a $7k discount.
I was assured the best mentoring, the best
support.
I was given every imaginable assurance.
Even so, I wondered the next day about rescinding.
I felt uneasy. I wish I had rescinded, though it meant finding an open post
office on a Saturday. but then, even if I had rescinded, who would have
guaranteed my money back?
Raygoza hates giving refunds. He would prefer to
strangle his mother.
But the fact is, these Pushtraffic bastards have
not met my goals. I won't go into details. But Pushtraffic customer service is
the world's worst.
The mentors told me they could not meet the goals
set out. They scoffed at them.have I complained? You bet. I have spoken to
their lawyer. I sent two dozen emails of question and complaint.
they give me nothing but mentoring. i was promised
flashy sales page, but nothing emerged.
Teri mentoring is crap.
This is not to say mentors are fools, but why would
they work for a scumbag if they are capable of building $10000- a month
websites?
If you think they can get away with anything and
call it mentoring, then good luck. But all they have done in my case is show me
what terrible, lousy managers- if not worse- they really are.
I take a dim view of a bunch of overpaid
crap-artist that fails to answer emails.
I'm looking into legal action now. Numbers are
strength. Let's give them hell.
If anyone wants help, please message me on:
(((Redacted)))
on strictest confidence (I check this mailbox
every 48 hours)
Chris Welderblum
Australia
PushTraffic definitely takes your money and doesn't deliver. I
am taking out a 'class action' against them through the FTC and have an
ever-growing list of victims.
If you want your money back, I urge you to contact
me because the more complaints I can submit, the more chance of getting a
refund.
Besides, it will help to stop these criminals.
email:
(((Redacted)))
I had the same bad experience with Push traffic.
They basically scamed $6500.00 out of me. I would
also like to know who John Denton is. He originally contacted me and thaen
later I heard of John Ragousa (Should be John Roug gousa)
Email
(((Redacted)))
Johan Perth
Australia
If you 've noticed all the praise for PushTraffic comes
from LA, isn't that amazing? This company is
very clever the way they do business. Some of the
people (who do the mentoring) if they have a conscience leave after a couple of
months. I have received an email from 1 of them. He tried to warn me not to
spend more money but he couldn't come right out and tell me because that would
cost him his job.
I lost $7500.00 and I'm a senior citizen on a
fixed income. They were so insistent and convincing that after you hang up you
can't believe what you allowed them to sell you. I received nothing for my
money.
I can't believe the Attorney General in Ca hasn't
been alerted to their scam.
Ellie Chicago
ILL
(((Redacted)))
John Ragoza Scam
by
sam520
on Wed Feb 27, 2008 12:36 pm
PushTraffic-Scam
I wanted to pass this info along so that others do not fall prey to a company
called PushTraffic. These guys told me that they would put up a site for me and
within 30 days I would earn around $2000. The price for setting up my website
and driving traffic to it was $2400.
I should have known to RUN when they wanted me to sign a form stating that I
could not get my money back [1st red flag]. HOWEVER – I had them put a clause
is that said I could get a refund in 30 days. I can tell you now that this
meant nothing to them.
Another red flag went up just as soon as I paid them. The same night I paid
them they told me I would no longer be able to talk with the man who sold the
program to me. This seemed odd as he had just told me that I would be working
with him to set everything up. Can you say “red flag”? Then when I asked to be
transferred back to this man, I was told NO. Can you imagine the knot I got in
my stomach? I knew these guys where going to take me for a ride and I was going
to lose $2399.
The next morning I sent a letter to PushTraffic addressed to John Ragoza and
the man who sold me the program. I told them I did not want to go forward and
that I wanted my money back. I also called and left messages to return my call.
Needless to say – you know what happened… not a thing. That is until they
figured out that I had called Visa and had them reverse the funds! Then all of
a sudden… PushTraffic seemed to “care” about me. WOW! Talk about customer
service.
Here’s the deal. They wanted to charge me for services they never rendered. My
account was never set up and they never drove any traffic and yet they wanted
to get paid. Visa told me they were going to get my money back based on the
fact that I never received anything from these guys.
Let me tell you – my phone rang of the hook after that. John Ragoza and
PushTraffic even called on Christmas eve. What kind of person interrupts you
and your family on Christmas eve?
The good news is that Visa did get my money back – but even this took 4 months.
The guys at PushTraffic were determined to get my money and tried every trick
in the book to keep funds that they knew they did not deserve. Thank God that
Visa went the distance and worked this out.
I only write this to inform anyone looking to use PushTraffic to stay as far
away from this group as you can. Can you say… PushTraffic Scam – John Ragoza
scam
I encourage you guys that have lost money to blog more about these guys. I hate
thinking that other innocent people are going to lose their hard earned money.
Hi There
I signed up with Pushtraffic on 13 August 2008, I paid $1500.
The made lots of promises in the process of trying to get me on board. I duly
received my first "coaching call" of 1 hour, but quickly realized
that my knowledge was more advanced than what their system was aimed at. The
caller even looked at my own website and said that he would feel embarrassed to
put up their free site for me, as my site was way better than the one they
offered me. I then contacted them and requested my money back on the grounds
that the product was not suitable for me and that it was falsely presented to
me by the salesperson. It is now three months since I requested the refund, but
apart from the initial few useless responses, I have had no responses for a
very long time, they are simply ignoring me and it is evident that they are not
going to give
my money back.
So, I paid $1500 for someone from the USA to make a 1 hour phone call to my
house. If you think that is good value for me, feel free to hand your cash over
to these guys.
To me, $1500 for a one hour phone call is plain theft.
I have nothing to hide, anyone is free to contact me at mailto:bassonc@gmail.com . In fact, if other
people out there have been scammed by this bunch, please contact me, I am
gathering as much info as possible to follow up with some legal action.
(((Redacted)))
Within the last week someone at PushTraffic, Inc tried to defame
one of their victims. It was a real piece of sleaze. These people have no shame
whatsoever. I suspect it was the CEO, John P Raygoza, but I can’t prove that at
this juncture.
The perpetrator placed a blog on (((Redacted))) that
claimed the victim said she needed her money refunded because she had cancer.
The victim did no such thing. She demanded a refund for
PushTraffic’s failure to provide service as promised. Of the $15,000 she paid
PushTraffic, John Raygoza offered her $7500. I don’t know, but $7500 seems like
a great deal of money to pay for about 30 minutes of coaching (especially by
someone who Raygoza in a recent statement said was not an internet marketer,
but a ‘technician’).
There was a rash of comments following that outrageously lying
post. Some, obviously posted by PushTraffic people chastised the victim.
Others, recognizing the slime of PushTraffic came to the victim’s defense and
pointed out discrepancies in the chastisements as well.
The victim complained to Apsense and they immediately removed
the putrid post as well as all the attending comments. Apsense also removed a
second blog post by another victim that went up within a day to counter the
offensive first post.
It is really sickening to see how low the PushTraffic CEO and
his crowd will stoop. Whoops! These guys can’t stoop. Sneaky snakes don’t have
legs.
I told you in
an earlier post the I filed a LA Better Business Bureau complaint against the PushTraffic
Swindlers. The following is the latest on that.
Complaint ID: 98428684 Posted with Los
Angeles Better
Business Bureau 7/7/2009
A synopsis of my complaint is that I paid $5000 to PushTraffic
for internet marketing coaching services. Within the first 28 days they failed
to meet coaching appointments two out of three times.
Owing to the
disposal of a large sum on this disgusting outfit, I am now under financial
pressure.
Pushtraffic has brought stress into my life and unhappiness to my household.
How I curse the day I ever heard of them.
If I had known that BBB rated them an F, I would never have
touched the nest of viruses.
I can relate to all the complaints. Poor responses, abysmal
customer service, phony promises…
I complained
and demanded a return of my money and they refused. They sicked their attorney
on me who attempted to intimidate me. When he failed at that he gave me three
options:
1. Continue without assurances that service would be improved or that the coaching
would meet my requirements.
2. Accept a refund of my money less 15%.
3. If I did not accept either options 1 or 2 by the end of the telephone
conversation I would get nothing.
None of those were acceptable and he hung up on me.
All of my efforts to settle the above matter amicably have been
unsuccessful. My numerous calls have not received the courtesy of a response.
Pushtraffic personnel have been told not to speak to me.
The LA BBB sent me an email on August 5, 2009 with the following
information included:
“In the absence of any response from the company this complaint
despite our two requests to them, we are closing our file on this complaint.
This unanswered complaint will become part of the information we
report to the public on this company for the next three years. Should any
government agency request our files on this company, your complaint will also
be included.”
So now it’s just one of the 46 complaints BBB has on PushTraffic
and John P Raygoza, and one of the 22 they haven’t answered.
Well, it won’t affect their BBB rating. That is “F” and you
can’t get any worse than that!
Go to Los Angeles Better Business Bureau and search for PushTraffic. Why would
a company have so many complaints filed against them. Ah, it’s a conspiracy,
DECENT folks are ganging up on them!
I was smooth-talked by Ted Molina, who assured me that
PushTraffic would help me set up a membership site for actors plus an custom
designed affiliate site that would run on autopilot bringing in at least
$30,000 a month. For $5,000 I would receive 12 months (weekly) coaching about
anything I needed to learn about internet marketing. I would also receive a
ticket to a seminar scheduled 5 months later in Australia .
At that time
I was relatively new to internet marketing and was frustrated about not having
someone to answer questions. This plan excited me.
Ted & I spoke for hour and he offered to speak to Denzel
Washington, who he said worked out at the same gym that Ted went to. He said
that he might be able to persuade him to do a short welcome video for my
membership site.
Too good to
be true? Sure was.
The coaches knew nothing about my planned membership site and instead
railroaded me in the direction of an affiliate site for PushTraffic.
The existing site I already had was taken down by PushTraffic
and replaced with a disgusting, cheap & nasty squeeze page with a picture
of their CEO relaxing with his laptop on the roof of an LA building.
The text said something like “I swear that I have made a lot of
money with this program” (I can’t remember the exact phrase, but it was a
blatent lie, as I made nothing.)
PushTraffic said they would blast out emails and send the page
to all the search engines resulting in a big list of subscribers which I could
do anything I wanted with.
Their coaching program was definitely not for beginners.
Firstly, I wanted to know how to use aweber and they directed me to learn it
myself through the aweber videos. I wanted to understand the creation of a
squeeze page. No luck, they said I already had one.
I demanded they restore my website, as at least I’d had some
success with it. Their page did nothing at all. That was about all they did for
me. I asked for instructional videos. The coach said he would try to make some,
but the first one just stalled and would not play.
When I complained that their estimated income hadn’t started and
that we were no closer to getting started, they told me that I should invest in
their Inner Circle which would mean that I’d be coached by the CEO himself
(John Raygoza) who would meet me for a private lunch during the Australian
seminar and discuss how they would make me a huge success. I would also receive
a second seminar ticket, so I could bring a friend, or sell it on eBay for
$5,000.
They continued to instill hope & excitement but I was still
skeptical. Mr Raygoza came on the phone and reassured me that I was in
excellent hands and that he would JV with me to success. I bought it
(foolishly) and another $5,000 was billed.
The only difference now was that I got messages to attend an
online webinar each week, but unfortunately these live events occurred at some
ungodly hour in the morning here and I could not attend as I had to go to work.
So I missed them all. When I tried to get a re-run, they said “the webinar has
ended”. I wrote to PushTraffic and asked if they could record them but got no
reply.
I was looking forward to the seminar, as the coaches had
difficulty in calling me due to the time zone difference.
Soon I got a call from another salesman trying to sell me the
same program all over again. I got bad vibes and told him that I’d already
spent $10,000. I was angry and upset and complained bitterly that in over 3
months I still hadn’t received my promised web design, nor any answers from coaches,
who just kept telling me that I wasn’t putting in the effort in affiliate
marketing.
I told him that I was not given what I paid for. He was lovely
and assured me that my website was almost finished and that it was looking
fantastic. If I paid a further $5,000 the whole thing would be taken care of
and it would be marketed for 12 months through PPC. I told him I already had my
own Adwords account with money in it. He said that they had to use their own
account as they would get a better price and they were PPC experts. The $5,000
would make me back thousands of income per month over a period of 12 months, by
which time I would be an expert.
He was so warm, understanding and reassuring. He said that he
would personally make sure that everything was handled with priority and that
my financial situation would turn around dramatically. He also said that I’d
receive another seminar ticket, which I didn’t want! He said he would get one
of the girls in the office to call me to help me sell it on ebay. (She never
called and when I asked about it nobody knew anything)
I didn’t have any more credit left on my cards, so he asked me
to get an increase. He asked which bank I was with and he rang them from the US
on a conference call and when they answered, told me to go ahead and ask for
the increase (while he stayed quietly listening in the background).
Of course they wasted no time in taking the money and yet again
a coach rang me to set me up for the third time, I got the feeling that I’d
been duped and demanded my money back. I wrote to Raygoza and I quote his
reply:
“After reviewing this I have decided to refund your account
$5,000.00
Please do not spend anymore money with PushTraffic – you have
paid your dues.
I hope to see you at my seminar.
Additionally I have had a talk with the parties involved and
rest assured they’ve been reprimanded for their actions.”
So there is the CEO’s own admission that I’d been ripped off.
Unfortunately, in my haste, I’d canceled the credit card,
because I didn’t want them to know the number. So the credit bounced back to
PushTraffic.
Raygoza offered to “cut a check” but I wanted a bank transfer.
He then offered PayPal payment but later reported that the payment wouldn’t go
through as it was too large.
Meanwhile the month of May came and went. NO SEMINAR took place
and I could get no information. None of the staff knew anything about it. I
knew then they had ripped me off.
Later, after many emails, Raygoza got sick and tired of my
gripes and sent me another email, saying I would get nothing. Well, I could
tell you many more things but I’ll leave that for my own blog.
These guys are slick, smooth criminals.
(((Redacted)))
Australian complainant lost
$15,000 to Push Traffic. Services were not
delivered but no refund.
Singapore
complainant
lost $5,000 to Push Traffic via unauthorized charge to his credit card.
USA
complaintant
lost $2500 through Push Traffic misrepresentation
South African complaintant lost $1500
through misrepresentation
SA Complaintant spent $5000 and recieved only 3 emails in about
40 days.
Forum member nearly lost $2399
I strongly recommend any would-be
entrepreneur to stay well away from Pushtraffic.
I'm a customer,and I know. I am also aware of an
increasing number of contacts with credible stories (I checked some of the
facts and names) who report a tale of woe.
What I report is the most uncooperative bunch of
useless bastards that every occupied an office building anywhere. Their
customer service is a bad joke, but it ain't funny.
Either they are lousy managers, incompetents or
just crooked. Maybe a bit of each.
Come to think of it, if you can call that stuff
mentoring and get away with it, let's all become mentors.
If the Federal Trade Commission lets Pushtraffic
continue, then street crime will be obsolete. You see, all you've got to do is
get hold of people's credit card details, slug them for big fees, then hold
them off by saying, as JPR says: "we sell coaching, we don't give away
money." Simple!
If you never make any money, Pushtraffic's nasty
little attorney -prostitute will tell you off by saying you need to do a lot
more work,
Pushtraffic is without products or systems of its
own, PT do not have any of the high-conversion sales pages they said they had,
and they do not have traffic expertise. If they do, they keep it a big secret
from their own clients.
Pushtraffic is poison. Keep well away from that
bunch of phonies.
he scam artists at Pushtraffic, Inc cold
called me using a name of a person I had bought products from in the past.
Trading on that trust I had for that person, they talked me into giving them
$5000 of my hard earned money for a coaching program. They missed two of the
first three sessions. When I called to complain I was told that they didn't
have to do any better.
I demanded my money back and they sicked their
attorney on me. He tried to intimidate me and bully me into accepting. When I
insisted on getting my money back he said I could either continue with things
the way they were, get a portion of my money back, or get nothing if I didn't
accept either of the first two options.
There is a class action suit in the works against
them.
Frank Servin: His name should be spelled
RayGOONza. He is a crook, and as he calls people who complain about his
comany's business methods, a LOOSER!
It is amazing that someone is speaking good of
Push Traffic. I had a very bad experience with them. They scamed $6400 out of
me. They promised me the world but did not do anything. They contacted me 2
times after I paid them and then the coach left them. Since then I never heard
of them again. To try and phone or cantact them is useless, they do not
respond. I will work hard once I know how to do it. I am a newby in internet
marketing and only wanted to learn how to promote and sell my own product. I am
not attacking them. I am telling you. They are big scammers. Johan
(((Redacted)))
Is
Push Traffic Mentoring a Scam?
It's
been 9 months since I signed up with Push Traffic.
When
I was contacted by Matt Alhouse (who is no longer there), the sales pitch he
gave was that the program he was offering was by invitation only. I wouldl be
given a free money making landing page while I worked with a coach who was
going to teach me how to generate an income online.
The
first thing he had me do was take a look at their website. The sales pitch
there sounded good so I went ahead and signed up. My initial payment was
$5000.00, but the next day he called and said I needed to pay an additional
$2000.00 in order to maximize my return. So like a dummy, I paid the additional
amount.
A
few days later, I was contacted by Joel Lansky who assigned me a coach and told
me they were going to start "pushing" traffic to my landing page.
Interestingly enough when I asked my coach about that, he was totally baffled
by the whole thing and got someone else on the phone that explained to me that
I had to pay for the traffic. OK so I was lied to right from the start. I
really didn't know much about internet marketing at this point, so whatever they
said, I believed.
My first coach (Dave
Baxter) spent about 3 weeks with me before I was passed on to another coach
(David Lee). He lasted about a month, when I was passed on to another coach. By
this time, it was already January. My last coach (whose name I will withhold)
was only able to schedule calls every two weeks because Push Traffic was
recruiting tons of new clients. I was happy with the progress we were making,
but suddenly I stopped hearing from him. I sent him numerous emails, but wasn't
getting any response back.
April
and May were pretty hectic since both my husband and I lost our jobs the end of
2008, and were in the process of selling our house (which we lost). We were
busy looking for an apartment, while also packing that I lost track of time.
When we were finally settled into our new home, I realized I hadn't had any
contact with my coach. I finally dug out the "contract" I signed and
proceeded to give them a call. I explained that I hadn't had a coach call in 2
months!
(My
last coach eventually contacted me and explained that he left Push Traffic
because of their unethical business practices. Talk about a big red flag!!)
I
was directed to Harwood Hamilton who apologized and explained to me that my
last coach had left the company and that the client files were corrupted. He
promptly assigned me a new coach with whom I had 3 sessions. After the 4th
session was scheduled, it was rescheduled. That was OK, but on the day of the
rescheduled call, it was cancelled and haven't heard from him since. I have
sent several emails requesting to be rescheduled, but I have since given up.
I
contacted Harwood about the rescheduled and cancelled calls. He assured me the
situation was taken care of and that my coach would be getting back to me. I
still haven't heard back. I tried calling Harwood over the past few days, but
my calls keep going to voice mail. I finally left two voice messages, but it's
been almost a week and still no reply.
If
you are contacted by Push Traffic, take it from me, don't get sucked into their
sales pitch!
(((Redacted)))
As a very unhappy customer of Pushtraffic,
I have to say
the discrepancy between promises and performance is big enough to fly a jumbo
jet through.
Bottom line is this: if Pushtraffic's business
model survives, then bank robbery will soon become obsolete.
Why risk your neck with an armed hold-up, when you
can duplicate a Pushtraffic scam and fleece people of amounts up to $15k then
hold onto their money, telling them "Your legal-binding agreement you
signed ... It clearly states we do not guarantee results. The contract binds us
to coach you, not to give you money."
Since I started
this blog, I have had several responses from people who have either already
parted with their money, or from people who saw the blog and thanked me for
saving them from doing so. I have been gathering names and we are setting up
some sort of group so that we can all add our own expertise and put these
criminals out of business. If we can't get our money back, at least we can have
the satisfaction of seeing them not making any more money. Let's spread the
word, they are using the internet to steal from people, let's use the internet
to give them a bit of their own medicine. John Raygoza and his fellow criminals
deserve to be brought to justice. Contact me or post a response if you have
been scammed by these guys.
RIPPOFFREPORT
PushTraffic Inc, JumpLaunch Inc, John Raygoza, Danny Robbins
Submitted: Monday, August 24, 2009 JDpower
Waianae , Hawaii
USA
HEllo,
I received a
call from a man representing himself as Jay Debolt whom I have worked with in
the past and purchased the google slapper program from. This man tried to
convince me that the push traffic program will fix the small problems I am
having getting my sites viewed by consumers.
The man stating
he was Jay Debolt called from Push Traffic Inc, on 7/16/09 He told me he need
to see which program I qualified for and began to list all the products I would
receive for my membership which include:
Advanced
Training Sessions, Blogging mentorship, PPC Mentorship, Sales Copy Mentorship,
DVD Training Videos, Instant Turnkey Website, (10) one on one coaching calls
over 6 months. With 118.80 Bi-annual hosting fee attached.
I was informed
that I qualified for the $2000.00 program and before I knew it, my debit card
reflected the purchase sending my personal account and mortage out the window
and in the negative which I had to pay 350.00 for fees to the bank.
The
confidentiality agreement states if I breach the contract by telling trade
secrets I will be charged the set value of $25,000, therefore; Since they
have breached their portion of the agreement by giving me nothing in return
they should be held liable for the same amount.
I was told by
Jay, that a representative and coach would call me later that afternoon, I
received No phone call.
I was told that
Jay would call me Sunday evening to see how things were going, I received no
call.
I was called
Monday morning by a man representing himself as Howard Hamilton, a very rude
man who told me to "wait" for him to finish before I asked him any
questions. Mr. Hamilton acted shocked when I told him no one had contacted me,
and set up an appointment for the next morning 6:00 AM Hawaii time with my
counselor Susanna, well I got my coffee and sat and waited, yup you guessed it
NO Phone call.
Later that week
I received a call from Mr. Hamilton attempting to get me to Upgrade my
membership. Are you freaking kidding me! I told him nobody has even contacted
me, again he acted shocked. I told him I wanted my money back right now. He
told me to write to Mr. Sipes and request a refund that is the only way I would
be able to get my money back, I told him ok I will do that today, and he hung
up on me in mid sentance. Now Im no expert, but this would appear to be a very
bad business practices.
I want these
prople exposed for the frauds they are, I want these people out of business as
it appears I am no the only one who has been scammed, I e-mailed Jay Debolt and
he responded once telling me he would forward my letter to Mr. Sipes, and now I
cannot even get a response from him.
This is a scam,
and I want my money back before they hide it all in an overseas account
like most crooks do.
thank you
Submitted: Tuesday, March 24, 2009
On 4 Mar 09, Danny Robbins phoned me, saying that John Raygoza of
PushTraffic Inc / JumpLaunch Inc, informed him that I would like to build and
own an internetbusiness . He mentioned
that he had been mentoring several people and most of them earned 5-figure
income by this time. The least amount was someone who earned US$6,000 in the
first month.
(Last November, I signed up a 'review website'
with JumpLaunch Inc / PushTraffic Inc, as promoted by John Raygoza in his
webinars. However, the 'review website' was not properly set up by its Front
Admin Panel. I terminated the account, saying it was not to my expectation of
an internet business. I got a refund back instantly).
On 4 Mar 09, during his overseas call, Danny
Robbins mentioned that I would NOT need to pay US$5,000 for the mentoring
program right away. I need to pay ONLY after I have earned more than the fee
amount. He asked for my credit card number and its expiry date, saying that the
Agreement from PushTraffic Inc required such billing details for the
registration process. I gave him my credit card details.
He later emailed the Agreement which did contain
my credit card details. He phoned again and wanted me to sign, scan and email
the Agreement to him right away. As I could not use a scanner then, he agreed
that I was to email the signed Agreement later that day. The Agreement had the
fee of US$5,000 stated. He assured me that I would only pay later.
4 hours after receiving the Agreement, I received
a phone call from my bank, saying that US$5,000 was charged to my credit card!
I emailed him immediately on such discrepancy.
I phoned him that day and Danny said "anyway
I would need to pay one way or another, sooner or later". He wanted me to
email the signed Agreement, which I refused to do so. His email reply was
"you are going to pay it after 30 days so I do not know what the problem
is".
I emailed him to revert back the transaction on my
credit card and he insisted that I should send him the signed Agreement in
order that the billing department could reverse the bill. I refused to sign the
Agreement as it would mean that I agreed to be billed per the Agreement.
Danny misrepresented the Agreement to me and
refused to revert the transaction on my credit card. Also, how could any credible
billing department bill a party without signed documents from that party? And,
how could any credible billing department not reverse its billing after 2 weeks
without the signed documents from the billed party?
As such, beware of ripoff from John Raygoza,
PushTraffic Inc and JumpLaunch Inc.
Yeo
Singapore
Submitted: Tuesday, March 24, 2009
On the 5th November, 2008, I received a call from a Frank Perez at
Push Traffic offering me a program where he would set up a website and work
with me one on one, I explained that I was not interested as I had my own
website that I wanted to get SEO for. He looked at my
website and was very impressed and asked me to give him 72 hours, to show me
the amount of traffic he would get to my site. I checked with him what
guarantee do I have if I paid the amount he was asking $10,000US. He informed
me that I would have one month.
I agreed on the condition that they were doing the
work, as I did not want tuition from them as I was going through information
overload with setting up my website, and I had previously signed up for a
coaching program with them which was useless and had been given incorrect
information. He assured me that I would be impressed with what he could do in
72 hours. I paid with 2 cards, one debit $2400, one credit $7600 on the proviso
that there was the guarantee.
He then faxed me an invoice for me to sign and fax
back. On this it stated coaching, and tickets to seminar. I informed him that I
was not signing up for their coaching program. He told me that's just how we
invoice it, that he would be doing the work and would link to my computer so I
could see what he was doing. He was running this program for about a dozen or
so people and making huge amounts of money.
The next day, I received another call from Push
Traffic, different sales person, now asking me for another $15,000US and
continually asking me to give him my credit card details for this. He tells me
instead of making $30,000 per month, you will make it per week. I repeatedly
asked him what part of no does he not understand and I now want a full refund.
Finally, somebody else took the phone (Danny) and
I told him that I wanted a full refund. He assured me that he was going into a
meeting with John Raygoza soon and would discuss the matter and that he would
call me back the next day. Would especially come into the office. (Saturday)
Never called.
On the 2nd December, 2008, spoke to Ted Molina,
and he told me they were making me their no. 1 priority. He gave me his direct
line phone number and mobile and told me to call anytime and convinced me to
give him until the 1st January, 2009, to show me what they could do, otherwise
I would get a full refund. I asked his name and informed him that I was
recording him telling me this.
Nothing happened, I tried to call the company
virtually daily, no answer, through to messagebanks where nobody returned calls
until finally on the 10th February, 2009, I receive an email from Joel Lansky
of Push Traffic "I would like to speak with you about your bad experience
with PushTraffic Inc."
After finally getting to speak with him on a
couple of occasions, he offers me 15% of my money back, and wants me to sign a
paper stating that it's my fault that I didn't make any money with Push
Traffic. Luckily, I had informed my credit card provider of this problem and
they contacted tried to contact the company, I think to no avail and did a
reversal of the $7600.
So Push Traffic still has $2400 of my money for
which I have received absolutely nothing.
About six weeks ago I received a statement from
AmerAssist stating that I owe creditor Push Traffic Inc. an amount of $10,300.
I cannot believe the nerve of John Raygoza and that this company can get away
with continually ripping people off like this. As you will see their are many
complaints on different sites re Push Traffic Inc. and John Raygoza. Just do a
search.
DianeMurrumbeena
Australia
Conclusion
Similar testimonials from around the world reveal hard to believe,
shocking pictures of injustice, loss, theft, anger, trauma and frustration.
They all contribute their experience to the outright lies and
deliberate, intentional deceptive activities and false promises of your group,
currently operating at 700 S Flower St. Suite 1410 Los Angeles CA 90017
You have
denied that Pushtraffic has anything to do with Incfortune. However, Incfortune
use the SAME methods of operation, SAME fraudulent marketing activities, SAME
lack of service and SAME unethical practices.
INCFORTUNE
is simply a new more sophisticated version of Pushtraffic.
The
only difference, is that you are getting bolder. You took me for $30,000.
Lack
of reprisal from authorities, your very cleverly drawn up legal agreement, and
your success in brushing off and ignoring requests for refunds, has emboldened
you to expand your fraudulent business.
No matter
how vehemently you, your legal counsel and your staff denies any wrong doing,
or try to blame your clients for your own lack of integrity, this small sample
of shocking and often heartbreaking testimonials, simply cannot be so easily
ignored or explained away. If there were only one or two cases, one could still
allow for some doubt. Many more can be found by doing a search. I have not
included the 27 complaints at www.bbb.org
Fresh
reports are coming in.
Perhaps the most accurate description of your business model, was
succinctly summed up by James Carse.
I quote:“I have
to say the discrepancy between promises and performance is big enough to fly a
jumbo jet through.
Bottom line is this: if Pushtraffic's business
model survives, then bank robbery will soon become obsolete”.
As your current income according to you is between $3 and $5 Million
Dollars per month, this could only be the tip of the iceberg.
I can’t help to wonder how many victims of your company, has simply been
too embarrassed or lacked the courage and time to come forward.
Some that did have the courage to say how they have been mistreated, have
been threatened, slandered or bullied by you or your lawyer.
Taking all the evidence and above facts into account, it has become a
habit for you, and you actually find it amusing, that you can break the law,
defraud and deceive the public so easily and effectively , without any serious recourse to
yourself.
Needless to say, this is not at all satisfactory. I wonder
if you treat all of your customers the same way you have treated me.
I must admit, I’m very disappointed with what has happened
and unhappy that your Business has not resolved this problem in a fair and
equitable way.
Sincerely,
John
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