Realeflow
6959 Pearl Rd., Ste 300
Cleveland Ohio 44130-3821
United States of America
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Realeflow Sims fraud, Spam, real estate scam, grand thieft, poor service, no service, no guarantee, system does not work Cleveland, Ohio
*UPDATE by author: settled
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This started as real estate spam. Gregory Clement was promoting a proven system he developed to get hundreds of real estate sales and buyers leads each mo. There was an added feature called Sims which was to sell real estate in record time, a week or two.
I bought about Aug. 14, 2009 what was to be 12 websites, product launch formula (Sims) I informed them I was not a tecy. They claimed tec knowledge was not necessary. While I waited for the package to arrive, I was supposed to be able to use their system to start setting up the business.
This proved frustrating from the start. The product arrived about 3 weeks. Little did I know that the guarantee was no good. It, the 30 days started with the credit card payment. Not the delivery date.
With problems growing I called customer service many times, and never corrected the problem. Several times I sent e-mails one to tec support #ZHD-618473, on or about Sept. 5th, stating the frustration I was having and I was wanting my money back.
On Sept. 10 I e-mailed admin@simsmembers.com for Greg to cancel send my money back. No one ever responded, which by now was the norm for Realeflow.
As it turns out I was put on a renewing subscription monthly for $189.00 that they just took at will without any notice. After many phone calls, a letter, many e-mails I finally got it stopped but not until they stole another $187.00 and refused to return any of it.
Greg's partner on this project was the developer of the product launch, quit! He (Jeff) later e-mailed me in October stating he was selling off all the product launch formula that he had in his inventory. Based on several e-mails the indication was because of the new FTC Regs. that were coming out on Dec. 2 2009.
Apparently Jeff didn't think he, Product Launch Formula would hold up under an investigation. Yet, org. this is what I thought I was buying.
FTC has been notified.
Money and collection fees due
$2000.00 org. purchase
400.00 stolen from debit account
2000.00 collection fees
400.00 for my time spent to date @ $200.00 hr.
150.00 advertising cost to all real estate gurus
150.00 coping, mailing, fax cost
75.00 permit to picket
125.00 signs
500.00 picketers (5) set up (note: picketing charged at $250 hr., $500.00 min.
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Updates & Rebuttals
#1 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Flynrider - Phoeix (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, January 12, 2010
POSTED: Thursday, January 21, 2010
Your post points out a couple of common red flags that can be used to spot a bad deal.
First, is the use of spam as a marketing tool. If someone has to resort to shady means to market their product, how good can it be? You would think that if this was such a big money maker, they could afford legitimate marketing.
Second, you have to analyze the pitch logically. If someone really developed a revolutionary "system" that would generate hundreds of real estate sales, why wouldn't they just keep it to themselves and make a fortune in the real estate business? Why would they choose instead to try to sell their "system" for less money than they could be making in a single real estate transaction?
#2 Update By Author
AUTHOR: Ralph - AUSTELL (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, January 21, 2010
POSTED: Thursday, January 21, 2010
Last week January 14, 2010 Jeff Mcmillion the new COO agreed to settle and send a check. As of today January 21, 2010 no check was sent.
Any one thinking of doing business with these people should rethink their position. Do not
trust these people.
They want me to give them a release prior to me getting my money. If anyone doing business with this company gives them a release first, you will never see your money.
#3 Update By Author
AUTHOR: Ralph - AUSTELL (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, February 03, 2010
POSTED: Wednesday, February 03, 2010
This matter is closed.
A settlement was arrived at with the new COO Jeff McMillion.
The settlement was paid as agreed on January 27,2010.