#1 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Doreen - Greensboro (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, September 21, 2004
POSTED: Tuesday, September 21, 2004
I just had to write and let you know:
1st, Thanks for telling your story, I read it while searching for similarities between StoresOnline and IDI / Internet Development Inc.
When I read the tumbleweed portion of your story, I printed it out right away, I was told the same story by "The Summit Group/Summit Consulting", when they called us on 7/24/04 hiding behind the name; Auctions for Income Success Team.
I looked up all the info I could find about the Tumbleweed farm, I even emailed them and asked, she confirmed via email what software they used and who they use for hosting, and neither had anything to do with StoresOnline or IDI.
I filed a lengthy report, see: http://ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff109132.htm
PMI, involved in many reports w/ Internet Treasure Chest, Auctions for Income, Iworks, John Beck, Frank Kerns, IDI, StoresOnline, Foreclosureworld, etc.
While PMI coaching handles & manages the coaching portion, who actually made the sale? Who's name is on your credit card statement? In my situation, it was "The Summit Group" that made the sale hiding behind the name "Auctions for Income Success Team", while IDI was on my credit card statement.
I think many reports target the front companies, the ones that are most visible, while the deceivers stay hidden and unaccountable. Does everyone get ripped off? I don't know !!!
I got 100% refund directly from the fullfillment company: IDI Internet Developement Inc because the sales group "The Summit Group" stonewalled, argued, & blamed proving that, the customer is never right.
pmicoaching.com shows they are involved in Real Estate = America's Note Network that has Unsatisfactoy BBB rating. One of their dba's is PMI, along with Dalbey Publishing, Dalby Publishing, Winning in the Cash Flow Business.
PMI left Kansas City, MO with no forwarding address but stated that this company is headquarted out of American Fork UT, which happens to be the city & state of The Summit Group, well at least the division that made the sale to me. Summits 800 number from IDI is in Maryland. PMI's Lindon UT address had unsatisfactory BBB rating and states that they had a strategic alliance with StoresOnline. Their
Kearney MO address is the same address as NMR, National Marketing Resources which was the coaching title given to me as my coaching provider. My coach was actually quite decent to me but had no power in providing refund, all that went back to the sales group "The Summit Group".
NMR & PMI show Steve Thorne as CEO or Principal.
I feel that "The Summit Group" is an umbrella name for many of the smaller companies they own or partner with. If you try to find BBB reports on the summit group, not found. But Professional Consulting Service, Professional Marketing Inc and other names all have unsatisfactory BBB reports. Couldn't find address for The Summit Group, but a search of their address turned up Summit Consulting, both show Colton Moody as CEO and has an unsatisfactory BBB rating.
They keep changing business names, moving but all complaints are similar.
StoresOnline, Orem UT, has judgement against them Go to: http://www.saltlakecity.bbb.org/commonreport.html?compid=2000585, this is BBB reliability Report. They were required to do several things: offer 3 day right to rescind, pay back consumers, provide consumers a list of all additional & optional services prior to finalizing sale. I think COSTS should be added here. The Summit group used 3 day rescind in their telephone solicitation, without the consumer benefit of listed services and costs prior to finalizing sale.
All of these companies know about this judgment and the requirements of the judgement. Yet, they continue to decieve consumers by incorporating 3 day rescind to TRAP consumers.
I feel these companies should be held accountable to the FTC requirements, lengthy description of what they are required to provide consumers. They certainly didn't provide this information to me prior to finalizing the sale. Can be found at:
http://www.data.bbb.org/denver2.asp which is America's Note Network BBB reliability report, toward the end under Educational Comments.
I've read reports from consumers that purchased
E-books, these sales/coaching groups have been calling them also. BUYER BEWARE, be careful of back door phone solicitation if you've purchased any e-book or infomercial product.
Wishing everyone the best of luck in getting their refunds.
Stay strong ! Good luck !