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Complaint Review: Law Offices of Eugene Kinsey

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  • Submitted: Tuesday, November 03, 2009
  • Last Posting: Thursday, March 18, 2010
  • Reported By: Rebecca — Cypress California United States of America
Law Offices of Eugene Kinsey
323 Main St. 2nd Floor Seal Beach CA Internet Internet United States of America

Law Offices of Eugene Kinsey Eugene Kinsey lawyer, child support lawyer. family law lawyer, child custody lawyer Internet

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This lawyer advertises in his website that his fees are at 250.00 an hour, when you call him he will smooth talk you and say that he has not updated his website yet.  He will then let you hear all the things you want to hear on how he will be on your case, he says he is semi-retired, does not need the money and he has the time to work on your case.  He will then push for the deal, ask for the 3500.00 afront and right after you pay him and the check was encashed, that would be the last time you will see him until your court hearing.  He cancell all his apppointments with me, and calls only when it is the day before your hearing only to advise that he needs to file a continuance, you will never get a hold of this guy after you pay him.  During the trial, was late and during the case he told the judge that he is dark on our child support case even after I have given him all the facts 5 months before the court date and HE TOOK OFF MY CASE OFF THE CALENDAR AGAINST MY INTENTIONS.  I didn't get any money from my ex and I have to re file and do all the paperwork once again. I terminated his service and hried another lawyer, this asshole caused me more money, more stress.  Never return phone calls.. DO NOt hire this lawyer or you will be sorry, this guys has no shame....check h is lawyer ratings on the internet and see it for yourself how many more other clients he ripped off.

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HERE ARE THE FACTS

AUTHOR: Gene Kinsey - Seal Beach (United States of America)

   This report is riddled with so many factual inaccuracies that I don’t even know where to begin.

   Understand please – when an attorney takes a case he/she is supplied by the client with the facts of the case as the client sees them and the attorney generally only finds out the other side of the story later as the case progresses. The facts provided to the attorney by the client are often incomplete or inaccurate or misleading.

    Furthermore, the client almost always views the facts of the case in the light most favorable to the client and ignores those which might favor the opposing party. Every attorney is familiar with this phenomenon.

   It is my job not to see the client’s case through rose-colored glasses. My job is to deal with the ACTUAL facts of a case – not only those which my client gives me – but also those I find out from other sources. If I determine that my case is weak because the client has done things which make him/her vulnerable or because the facts I have been provided are false or misleading, it is my job to deal with the weaknesses of the case as best I can.

   It is also not my job to support the client in everything he/she may want to do. When the client wants to do something which is not in the client’s interest or a child’s best interest, my job is to say no to the client. Clients generally do not want to hear that their own attorney will not support them in a self-destructive course of action.

    My advice to this client was not at all consistent with what she wanted to hear. However, I am absolutely certain that she needed to hear it. That was a judgment call on my part and I would not hesitate to do it again.

   Furthermore, it became clear to me that the facts I was given were incomplete at best and needed verification by subpoena before dealing with those alleged facts in court. THE CLIENT AGREED AND WAS PRESENT IN COURT WHEN WE TOOK SOME OF THE ISSUES OFF CALENDAR. Her statement to the contrary is COMPLETELY FALSE.

   It is absolutely untrue that we did not return this client’s calls and did not do what was necessary to prepare for her case. She called. She came into the office. We had conferences and meetings which I did not charge her for. It is true that we had to reset meetings and calls and it is also true that her case had to be continued because I found myself in a protracted trial out of town – there is nothing unusual about this. Scheduling conflicts are very common for attorneys.

    In 34 years of practice I have done literally thousands of cases and, of course, I have not always been on the same page with every client. I certainly was not on the same page with this one.  My ratings are high. I provide excellent service for my clients at very affordable prices. I do not have a large, expensive office and I do not have a large, expensive staff in order to keep the cost of our service low.


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#2 Update By Author

Kinsey..save your breath

AUTHOR: Rebecca - (United States of America)

Kinsey,


Our case is already in the state bar.  Why don't you do yourself a favor...save your breath...The fact is my case would not even reach the state bar investigator if there is no probable cause.  You have high ratings..hahahaha where?


Here are other clients that were so unhappy with your service.


Report # #563057


http://www.ripoffreport.com/lawyers/law-offices-of-eugen/law-offices-of-eugene-e-kinse-5fa42.htm]


Here is also the ratings you have in lawyer ratings


(((Redacted)))


I am not your first victim, I am sure I am just one of the many; the difference is, I will not be stepped on, especially if someone raped my trust.  I will make the difference, I will take the time, this is about principle...it takes one person to start, and that person is me. 


 



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#3 Update By Author

Kinsey..save your breath

AUTHOR: Rebecca - (United States of America)

Kinsey,

Our case is already in the state bar.  Why don't you do yourself a favor...save your breath...The fact is my case would not even reach the state bar investigator if there is no probable cause.  You have high ratings..hahahaha where?

Here are other clients that were so unhappy with your service.

Report # #563057

http://www.ripoffreport.com/lawyers/law-offices-of-eugen/law-offices-of-eugene-e-kinse-5fa42.htm]

Here are also the ratings posted by your prior clients, your average is 1. from scale of 1 to 5, one even said, "I wish there was a rating worst than "BAD"

www.lawyerratingz.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=1644

I am not your first victim, I am sure I am just one of the many; the difference is, I will not be stepped on, especially if someone raped my trust.  I will make the difference, I will take the time, this is about principle...it takes one person to start, and that person is me. 

 


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#4 Owner of Company

THIS IS PURE MALICE

AUTHOR: Gene Kinsey - Seal Beach (United States of America)

This has become a malicious campaign.' I'm not going to involve myself in it any further.    I wish you well.


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#5 Update By Author

JUSTICE

AUTHOR: Rebecca - (United States of America)

This is not a malicious campaign, this is justice and objectivity.  When someone pay you in good faith in exchange of a fair, accurate and competent representation, you should be forthright.  You are a lawyer that took an oath to perform your duties ethically and within professional guidelines.  I'm sorry that you feel this is a malicious campaign, it's not...This is nothing personal purely business.  I wish you well too.
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#6 Consumer Comment

Vintictive & Self Absorbed

AUTHOR: Stan - Long Beach (United States of America)

It's obvious you can't stand it when things don't go your way.  People like you hear only what the want to hear.  Eugene Kinsey is a well respected attorney and well known in the community of Seal Beach and the surrounding area.  He handled my case and has helped many locals including business owners with legal issues as well.  In many cases for minimal or no fee.  If he feels the person has a legitimate case and is being wronged or cannot afford his services, he takes it on anyways knowing he may never get payed.  In my case he ended up waiving $39,000.00.  My case dragged on for 2.5 years and required countless hours of work and preparation not to mention 7 court appearances.  FYI he is an attorney not a hit man.   Just because you paid a retainer fee does not mean you get to dictate how he handles your case.  At times I had doubts regarding the strategies he used while handling my case.  I questioned his methods and he explained his reasoning to me.  Honestly I still had some reservations.  In the end we won the case.  But you and your huge ego cannot handle it when thing don't go according to your plans.  I can only hope for the children's sake that you refrain from bashing your X-husband in their presence and do not hinder his visitations with them because you are angry.  Do not make them wear the black eye for your failed marriage.  Divorce is hard enough on them as it is.  Even if he is behind or missed some payments I'm sure he is in the children's life and has their best interests at heart.  Unlike you a self righteous, rapacious, ignorant person who resorts to foul language to express them self.
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#7 Update By Author

I respect your opinion Stan.

AUTHOR: Rebecca - (United States of America)

Hi Stan or Eugene?,

If you are a true client of Kinsey, then I am happy that you have not experienced the same fate I went throuhg with Kinsey.  If this is Kinsey..well I thought that you are not going to spend any of your time in this matter anymore.

Couple of things...self absorbed is always spelled with a hyphen, any adjective that uses the word self, as APA rules must used hyphen. VINDICTIVE is spelled with a "D" not a "T".

Before I hired Mr. Kinsey, I have been a pro-per for almost seven years of the same case, I have had two attorneys prior to him.  You are right I did not hire a "hitman" and have no intentions at all.  Its funny because it was Mr. Kinsey who told me that he has all kind of "services", it seems too that you are tangling yourself in things that you don't have a full knowledge. Like what I said, my case against Mr. Kinsey is already with the State Bar of CA.  As of today, it is being investigated and all court papers are being subpoena.  My case would not even reach the Bar investigator if there is no "probably cause", so I am confident that the Bar did see some irregularities in the way Mr. Kinsey handled my case.  Mr. Kinsey boast of being cheap...I tell you  I have no problems paying, or even be charged with higher rate as long as I am getting the fair service I am entitled to.

You are entitled to your own opinion but don't call me names.  I am sure if its another lawyer who took your case, it would not take 2.5 years.  I know, because after I  fired Kinsey, and hired a new competent lawyer, the case that took Kinsey 6 months only took my lawyer 2 months.  And oh, yes about my ex..did I tell you that he was a sex offender.


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#8 Consumer Comment

A Very Different Experience!

AUTHOR: Ms. Broome - Long Beach (USA)

 

I have known this attorney for many years, and have hired him myself, as well as recommending him to several friends.  I have known him to be thorough, competent, and knowledgable.  I know that he zealously represents his clients.  I also know that he is only one person, and doesn't keep a ton of staff around to answer phone calls and hand-hold his clients like they do at the big expensive law firms.  Some people don't do well with that.  That's a far cry from what is alleged here!

Mr. Kinsey is an excellent attorney, and handled my case, and the cases of friends of mine whom I sent to him, professionally and diligently.  While no outcome is guaranteed, Mr. Kinsey puts forth his best efforts for each of his clients, and has an excellent reputation.  I suspect that this person is simply a disgruntled client, because it doesn't sound like the attorney that I know.  He is certainly one of the most honest and trustworthy attorneys I know. 

I continue to recommend Mr. Kinsey as a good person, and a great attorney!


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#9 Consumer Comment

I know at least one very satisfied client of Mr. Kinsey

AUTHOR: Vincent - Chapel Hill (United States of America)

I know at least one very satisfied client of Mr. Kinsey.  Your allegations run counter to his reputation in the legal community. 

I understand that Gene has devoted enormous amounts of time to pro bono causes, including his lawsuit challenging the strict school uniform policy of the City of Long Beach to enable impoverished families to send their children to school in less-expensive clothes similar in appearance to approved uniforms.  In my experience, attorneys who are willing to devote significant time to pro bono causes are much less likely to "rip off" clients than those who enter law practice solely for personal financial gain.

Clients seldom appreciate scheduling conflicts that are inherent to law practice.  Deadlines may be imposed and rescheduled at the whim of a judge, and attorneys have no control over timing of proceedings and motions brought by adversaries.  I doubt that any alleged delay in communication by Gene was intentional. 

With respect to your complaint with the state bar, your statement "my case would not even reach the state bar investigator if there were no probable cause" is without merit.  The California state bar will investigate all claims against attorneys regardless of merit.  There is no "probable cause" standard as a threshold for initiating an investigation.  Note also that an enormous number of state bar complaints are dismissed without any finding of wrongdoing or imposition of any discipline.   

I am sorry to hear that you have associated yourself with a sex offender.  While I do not suggest that the conduct of your ex is in any way attributable to you, your association does raise a question as to your personal judgment.  If you misperceived your ex as being an upstanding person that he is not, then might you also be misperceiving Gene as being as not being the upstanding person that he is? 


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#10 Update By Author

Act of Desperation from Gene Kinsey

AUTHOR: Rebecca - (United States of America)

You know what the funny thing about the rebuttals and general comments here, all the good comments implies the same content - that Gene Kinsey does not charge a lot of money in exchange of his representation.  And everytime there is a reply or I refute the latest comment, it is immediately answered.  I applaude the time and the effort painstankingly exerted by these virtual "people" here. Nice try Kinsey...I am 100% sure its you,  you yourself alone. 

Look at the tone of the letters, doesn't it sound  like a lawyer, the content, the terms and the legal jargon is screaming....Lol! You're desperate Kinsey.  If you truly have a good reputation in your community, why waste time with my report.  If I am an only one disgruntled client, it should not bother you at all.  I am sure becasuse you have a lot of satisfied clients, business should be usual. Thanks for Ripoff Report, voices of people like me can be heard... I mean come on...the last remarks

In the lawyerratings.com miraculously there are at least four to six good comments that appeared about Kinsey all giving him the highest rating.  The next day, half of them were omitted by the site..why?  Because through detection of IP address, that consumer website know if its the same person who is flooding the website with good remarks.

I hired Kinsey in 01/06/09, for a review hearing on 4/15/09.  I paid him 3500 and cash was immediately encashed the next day.  No nothing for three months, filed the substitution the day before the trial so he can move for continuance...see it for yourself..here is the letter from his assistant apologizing to the other counsel of the case.

Not to mention that this guy is a "bait and switch" con, advertising cheap, and then after he talked to you, he say that he has to change his website and  the fees has since increased.


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#11 Consumer Comment

Only positive comments

AUTHOR: JKR - San Francisco (United States of America)

I've only heard positive comments about Mr. Kinsey and his work.  Although he never handled a case for me, I had a very good friend who was represented by him, and she had nothing to say but great things about him and the work he performed.  Rather than "bashing" Mr. Kinsey over the internet, why isn't the original reporter more constructive and diplomatic on the way he or she is handling the situation? 
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#12 Consumer Comment

This says it all

AUTHOR: Mr. Robinson - (United States of America)

"Before I hired Mr. Kinsey, I have been a pro-per for almost seven years of the same case, I have had two attorneys prior to him" - Rebbecca

This quote says it all. I am an attorney who also has had the pleasure of seeing Mr. Kinsey's work product. Mr. Kinsey is a first rate lawyer who does what he can to help people of all backgrounds. As Mr. Kinsey said, the attorney does not create the facts of the case, they do their best to use the facts they are presented with in a light most favorable to the client.

Given the above statement, it is clear that Rebbecca's case is not very good and that she is not a very good client. 7 years in litigation is a long time. What has been happening in this case? Two attorneys before Mr. Kinsey? What did they do wrong? What did Rebbecca do as a pro-per that undermined her case?

This seems like a typical case where someone had an adverse outcome and now wants to blame the attorney. Mr. Kinsey has been practicing for decades. In that time, it is only natural for a few "bad apple" clients to attempt to smear a good name.

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#13 Update By Author

THE VICTIM IS NOW BEING VICTIMIZED...

AUTHOR: Rebecca - (United States of America)

Woohaa, this is so typical of lawyer...degrade the victim and smear her character to create doubt..in this case...its so obvious that all of a sudden after putting this report in November 2009, all of a sudden it took 4 months before these so called concern citizen start standing up for Mr. Kinsey.

Well I have a very volatile and contentious divorce, of which would also answer Vincent's question of why I involve myself with a sex offender.  Simply because I did not know...and when I learned about the truth, I immediately disassociate myself and filed for divorce.  After my divorce, child custody and support was contested by the other party, after two full family evaluation, minor's counsel and battery of therapy for my child and I I fought hard for my daughter because I know that is for her best interest- to be with me.  I have two attorney's before, the first one was honest enough to tell me that she has a lot of case load that she will not be able to take care of my case because her office is in O.C. and my case was in L.A.. The second one I hired, I run out of money, the long litigation proved to be expensive...and that's how I found Kinsey....advertising 250.. an hour...nothing but a bait and switch.  I took an advance for 3500 to pay him because he promise that he will have the time to take care of my case.

Not only that the case was almost at the end and all I need is a decent child support, since you are all lawyers here...why do you think Kinsey took my child support from the calendar? it was filed on 02/13/09, on our 06/08/09 had he now took it off from the calendar any order that would be made should have retroactive to the filing date.

From 02/13 to 06/08 Kinsey did not discuss with my any discovery nor told me what his plans are for my case.  I understand he is the only one and does not have the office, but it is not an excuse to give me a Grade F service. On 06/08/09 Judge ordered Kinsey to prepare the order after hearing, Kinsey did not do it, and all of you lawyers know that orders are immediate, 10 days maximum.  06/25/09 I fired Kinsey..there was no order made and our minor's counsel made the order.

I have no care if you guys have good comments about Kinsey...but that is not what my experience is.  Did he call you guys to ask for your help, is he loosing business because of this.  This guy is not poor, I have heard all of his story topping and bragging about buying houses for her daughter, producing shows for blues, traveling and being a daysailor...this guy takes money from people without earning it.  Classi bait and switch.  I have posted some correspondence prior to prove my allegations, hopefully the site will post it.


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#14 Consumer Comment

Eugene is an excellent attorney

AUTHOR: anonymous - santa clara (United States of America)

Eugene Kinsey takes on cases because it's the 'right thing to do', handling many causes "pro bono" when clients cannot pay for his services.  He works hard, and achieves great results.  In addition to being an excellent attorney, his heart is certainly in the right place.  Yes, he is not always at his desk to take a phone call, but I would rather have him in court working on a case than being chained to his desk answering calls.  Family law cases are difficult, and it looks like Rebecca is tied into the emotions of her own case.  Having been through years of family law disputes (thankfully now well in the past) I have realized that things are not always black and white in family law, the procedures are complicated, and to make matters worse clients are often caught up in emotions and don't always see things in a rational or correct light. 

Rebecca, you have filed a complaint with the State bar, and if you are justified the process will vindicate you.  Meanwhile, don't unfairly slander an excellent attorney's reputation.  Eugene Kinsey has helped many who would otherwise have been batted around by the system.  Don't deter others in need from hiring a good attorney.

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#15 Ex-Employee

This is ridiculous

AUTHOR: BestSecretary - Long Beach (United States of America)

I worked for Gene Kinsey for 6 years. He is not only the BEST Attorney, but a great boss and a good person. Sometimes when clients don't get a call every single day, they panic and think that nothing is being done on their case. The truth is that we were always working hard in that office. Gene works long hours to make sure he gets all the facts straight. If he was always on the phone w/ the client, the case work would never get done. I think these accusations are typical of a disgruntled client.

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#16 Consumer Comment

AD HOMINEM - ATTACKING THE AUTHOR INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT THE ISSUE

AUTHOR: Anonymous - Long Beach (United States of America)

Upon reading all the comments that are here.  It seems to me that the author Rebecca is being ganged up.  Ever heard of the fallacy of logic "red herring", I think that most of you guys are missing the point here that Rebecca has stated.  Her experience is not good and she felt that she has been ripped off by paying Attorney Kinsey the money and without getting the worth of her hard earned money.  She has the right to do that.  If its not "ripped off" I don't know what else to call it.

I did check the links above, and its seems that Rebecca is not the only victim, and you are guys are not being fair to the author by basically getting off tangent of the issue.  The issue is what Attorney Kinsey did to her, not to you or any of you.  There is what we call "freedom of speech", and she is entitled to do that.  SHe has shown evidence here, not only hear say..did you read the attachment.  The first letter was clearly showing "Sorry it is late by our fault..." dated 04/14/09 and the Author said her case hearing is 04/15/09 - isn't that a red flag..why last minute.  I understand lawyer can get busy but isn't what they signed up for, and that's why they charge big amount of money.  If an attorney is busy the he/she should not take any case load.  Isn't communicaton is a big factor to be able to work on a case.

I live in Long Beach/Seal Beach Naples area, I have not heard of Attorney Kinsey's name or whatever repuration he is capitalizing here.  I do a lot of business in the area, Pine/Belmont Shore/Main...However I do know that when I was looking for an attorney in 2007, Attonry Kinsey name came up one, and as a vigilant consumer I check on the State Bar website and lawyeratings... lawyer ratings are just as bad. 

Also this is not the only ripoff report for this person.  And when I read the other report and all the ratings in lawyerratings, all the complaints are consistent, they all describe the difficulty of not being able to communicate, calls not being returned, and delay after delay.  So Rebecca is not just one disgruntled client.  Attorney Kinsey has a lot of "DISGRUNTLED CLIENTSSSS". Kudos for you Rebecca, I appreciate your effort in speaking out.


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#17 Consumer Comment

Great Attorney - Handled my case well

AUTHOR: Barry - (United States of America)

Gene handled my DUI case and got me through unscathed. He didn't charge me an arm and a leg either!
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#18 Owner of Company

THANX FOR THE KIND COMMENTS

AUTHOR: Gene Kinsey - Seal Beach (United States of America)

   Comment #16 is pretty obviously made by Rebecca herself posing as a 3rd party.

   I am touched by all of the wonderful comments made by clients and fellow attorneys. I have spent a good deal of the time of my life giving to others and I guess this is just a little of that coming back to me. As you guys know, I have a very long list of pro bono clients. In fact, just this month, I waived approximately $17,000 in fees. I spent a year of my life supporting the 1st Amendment in court and in testimony in the California House and Senate. You may remember my cable show in the 90’s called “The Legal Pad” which I did without pay as a public service. Everything on my web site at www.kinseylaw.com – all of the research material and legal forms – is absolutely free. Many of you have also been to some of the music events I have put on all over Southern California.

   Rebecca simply does not know who I am or what I do.

   Rebecca is obviously frustrated by the court system (she has plenty of company) and wonders how it could possibly be that her case was continued at the last moment. Well, Rebecca CASES GET CONTINUED ALL THE TIME. In this particular case, I found myself stuck in a protracted trial in San Diego and found out at the last moment that it would continue and conflict with Rebecca’s hearing in Los Angeles. I’m sorry about that, Rebecca, but this turn of events was unexpected I had absolutely NO CHOICE.

   Rebecca – as Einstein tells us, the laws of physics and the limitations of space and time dictate that I cannot be in two places at once. Court rules require that, when you are already in a trial, any conflicting matters must be continued. Is that so very hard to understand?

   Some of the people filing rebuttals have noted that Rebecca’s case had gone on for the better part of a decade before I got involved. And – yes – when you see that kind of thing, it is, indeed, a red flag. I usually turn down cases like Rebecca’s. In fact I turn down about 20 cases before I take one. I decided to help Rebecca because she was so persistent in wanting me to help her. I had no idea at the time who or what I was dealing with.

   Rebecca – another problem with the laws of physics is that it is impossible for me to go back in time to somehow prevent the development of severe family dysfunction. Nor is it possible for me to unwind the damage done by a pro per client before I become involved in a case. Nor is it possible for me to control the opinions of the attorney for the child appointed the court in this very contentious divorce case. Nor is it possible for me to force the parties to place the interests of their child ahead of their own.

   Rebecca ought not to be attacked personally. She is simply wrong and misguided and she is obviously in the grips of an obsession she cannot control. Again – I am a big supporter of the 1st Amendment and so I support Rebecca’s right to say anything she wants. But, in the marketplace of ideas, what she says may be determined to be nonsense. That is the risk she takes when she makes absurd statements in a public forum.


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#19 Consumer Comment

I am not Rebecca

AUTHOR: Anonymous - Long Beach (United States of America)

Mr Kinsey,

I left the comment #16, and no I am not Rebecca, should you come by Broadway St. in Long beach at corner of Redondo you are more than welcome to visit my bookstore.  I have known Rebecca for a time since she moved to Long Beach back in 2005.  I know personally all the predicaments she had with her child custody and support case...and I also know that Rebecca is a very fair, just and intelligent woman.  A little assertive but she is fair.   She will not instigate arguments nor waste her time if she is treated fairly.  

I know for a fact that she has paid you 3500.00 a dollar, a money that she does not have and yet she took an advance from credit card to pay you.  If you are truly noble and you are what these people claim who you are, why didn't you just give Rebecca her  money back when she asked you? That is merely 3500.00...especially for someone who is claiming to do a lot of pro-bono.

Just a thought...

 


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#20 Update By Author

WILL WAIT FOR THE OUTCOME OF THE STATE BAR TRIAL

AUTHOR: Rebecca - (United States of America)

I will not involve myself in this tirade any longer.  Clearly, Mr. Kinsey you also don't know who I am.  I don't know who you are as well.  What I know is how I was treated when you took and screw up my case. 

I am truly amaze that you now have all the time in the world to respond to this comments, when I could not even get you to answer any of my emails before.  I have sent you 4 certified mails in span of 2 months. Called your office 100 times, even call and left messages to Lacey yet to no avail...

I wish you well and I am glad that you are respecting my rights. 

For all the people who will be reading this...Healthful skepticism is always good.  Best thing I learn in college - critical thinking...be the judge of who you think is telling the truth here.  


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#21 Update By Author

DO NOT HIT ME BELOW THE BELT.

AUTHOR: Rebecca - (United States of America)

 

Eugene Kinsey - Please do not lecture me about physics... ever heard of the Superposition Principle whereby objects can be in two places at the same time? This is the basis of the present day quantum mechanics theory. The ability of particles to exist in two places at once.  If this is hard to comprehend how about the theory of parallel universe? ever heard of them?

Eugene Kinsey - No you are not hard to understand, I speak 3 languages and would understand you fluently and excellently in all of those three.   From the last IQ test I took, I got 145 so I am guessing my comprehension firing at all cylinders. Are you the one whose having trouble understanding me? Here are my maddening questions:

1. Why did you wait last minute to move for a continuance or even file the substitution of attorney the day before the actual case hearing of 04/15/09? You mean to say from 01/06/09 (day I gave you the files of my case, sign my part of the substitution and pay you the money) to 04/14/09, you are so busy that you were not able to spare at least 10 minutes of your time to at least fax file or tell your assistant to file it?

2. Why did you take off my child support hearing off the calendar and told the judge you were "dark", after having the case from 01/06/09 to 06/08/09 = 5 months and you didn't have a clue of what is going on. It is in the minutes..you said "you were dark". This is after I told you that I am willing to accept the 6250 declared income of the Respondent even without paystub. You took it off against my instructions.

3. Why didn't you do the order after hearing? you were ordered from the bench by the judge..you have 10 days from 06/08/09; come 06/25/09, you keep on saying "sorry I am so busy"...Irrelevant!

The order was a mere two page sheets that would take an attorney with "34" years of experience to spend 5 minutes and this order should have been done.  Instead, the other counsel has to write you a letter that you were the one ordered to do it but ended up doing it.

Eugene Kinsey - Do not hit me below the belt by indirectly implying that I have a dysfunctional family.  I have two great kids that are both academically excelling in school, I have a 14 year old who is a senior high school student and an 8 year old who was academically awarded by kiwanis club, boys and girls club and her school for academic achievements. So don't even go there.  Aren't you on your 4th marriage? I could go on about dysfunctionalities...but I am not going to your level.  But look first at your own before you look at mine.

Eugene Kinsey - I am not obsessed, you are tremendous waste of my time, but as a person who grew up with compassion, values and a dissent of social activism, I could not believe how you handled my case...I felt that I  have the need to tell other people of this horrid experience.  When I hired you, I told you I just need some respite because I am emotionally exhausted, I thought that I can take a break from the stress and yet you added on the very stress and pressure that I am avoiding because you won't return calls, won't return emails.

Eugene Kinsey - you accepted my case in your faith, I hired and paid you in good faith because you said "when I am in your case, I am in your case 100%, I am semi-retired and I don't accept a lot of cases now..."  I should have known better, because the first time I had a meeting with you, your immediate question is "Did you bring the check?"

Eugene Kinsey - I have repetitively asked you and your secretary to provide me with a statement, Lacey said "I can only give you the copy of your cleared check, but other than that I do not have anything."  I asked you to return my money and you didn't. Until now, I have nothing, not even one statement from your office.

If you are the person that these people claims here...that's definitely not the person I dealt with. And I would love to meet that person.

Eugene Kinsey - It does not take a lawyer to realize how you neglected my case big time. You can try to depic me as a horrible disgruntled client but even your attorney friends would agree with me (100% if they are being objective) that you just simply srewed up my case.


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#22 Owner of Company

I'M THE VICTIM - NOT YOU

AUTHOR: Gene Kinsey - Seal Beach (United States of America)

I’m sorry you feel you have been hit below the belt. But, in fact, Rebecca, you have only been confronted with the obvious and your own responses clearly indicate for all who read them that your complaints are nothing short of ridiculous.

Let me remind you that it was you – not me – who chose to make false and abusive comments about an attorney who did an excellent job for you. You must have known that the truth would come out in the subsequent discussion.

1. Re The Continuance: I have explained that to you above. I can’t be in two places at once. The date of the filing of the Substitution was relevant to nothing and caused you no harm whatsoever.

2. Taking Your OSC Off Calendar: The OSC concerned alleged failures to pay back support. You and I both know that on the day of the hearing you and I sat in the hallway outside the courtroom and discussed that matter at length. We received information from the other party that strongly contradicted what you had told me. We agreed that the matter should be continued to do discovery regarding the other party’s information. YOU TOLD ME YOU AGREED AND THE MATTER WAS TAKEN OFF CALENDAR WITH YOUR PERMISSION.

3. Order After Hearing: I was a few days late in getting the Order After Hearing prepared. This is quite common and resulted in no harm to you. You took your file back before it could be prepared.

My records show you have received several statements. I told you that if you wanted to dispute them, you were free to do so with a State Bar Arbitration. You have chosen not to do so.

You received excellent service from my office. The problem is, Rebecca, is that I had to be the bearer of bad news and had to tell you things you didn’t want to hear.

You still don’t want to hear those things although you have heard them from me, from the Judge, from your child’s attorney, and from many others. And now you have the benefit of all of the opinions above as well.

I’m very sad for you. The beauty of life is all around you and you don’t see it. Instead you spend your time obsessively brooding and blaming others for the problems you have made for yourself. The answers to all of your questions are right there in front of you but you don’t want to accept them.

By the way, I’m not one to carry a grudge and I’m happy to speak with you personally about any or all of these issues. Just give me a call if you want.


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#23 Update By Author

ANY PROOF?

AUTHOR: Rebecca - (United States of America)

Eugene Kinsey - You said your records shows you sent me statements? Do you have proof for that...I have proof with certified mails that I have been requesting for a statement numerous times and yet I received nothing. I wouldn't mind posting it here either.

I have meticulously kept all the email messages (both inbox and sent messages) correspondence with you...and we can go on and on, and all of these correspondence would strongly support my statement. You even told me "you're a dream client"...because I have all my files chronologically and properly arranged.

In the hallway I remember vividly, I was telling you I'd accept the 6250.00 because I do not want to prolong this case any longer.. as a matter of fact, when I fired you and I hired a new lawyer, the child support order that my lawyer worked on was still based on the 6250.00..want a copy?

There's just no excuse for not doing the order in a timely manner. Period

You don't have to remind me how beautiful life is because I know my life is beautiful, and I am living with clear conscience and knowing that I didn't cheat or take advantage of other people's frailties. I work and earn my money rightfully with my own sweat.

I don't hold grudges, what I am doing is trying to impart the bad experience so I can spread caution to other would be victim. I chose not to talk to you because I already gave you the chance to offer me explanation but you didn't.  Even before I filed my case with State Bar I gave you the chance to amend...you were very cocky.

You're very unctuous and you epitomizes the phrase "things are not what it seems".  Beyond your smiles, jokes, calm demeanor, eloquence lies the a heartless conman, you're cold and insensitive...

 


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#24 Consumer Comment

Full of yourself

AUTHOR: Stan - Long Beach (United States of America)

Are you for real?  You said the last time you had your IQ tested it was 145.  Do you check it once a year or something?  Sounds to me like mental masturbation.  Do you ever look at your own spelling or grammar or just point out the mistakes of others?  I thought you weren't going to involve yourself in this tirade any longer?  You are obsessed!  You have to be right and the last word.  You are bitter women because someone violated you when you were young and then married a pervert.  Get a life!
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AUTHOR: Rebecca - (United States of America)



I love it when I get reaction from people like you...It means I have an audience that reads this and my effort is not nil....You're not in my league.  It seems you have stronger words and angrier than Mr. Kinsey himself..I WONDER WHY? :)  Like what I said, I respect your opinion.  :) :) :)

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