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Complaint Review: Debt Jurisprudence

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  • Submitted: Thursday, June 19, 2008
  • Last Posting: Sunday, August 31, 2008
  • Reported By:Beverly Hills California
Debt Jurisprudence
16141 Swingley Ridge Road Chesterfield Missouri 63017-1778 U.S.A.
  • Phone: 877-587-4748
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  • Category: Liars

Debt Jurisprudence - Dave Kramer student loan fraud legal double talk not a lawyer Chesterfield Missouri


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I spoke to some moron who couldn't answer my questions about my student loans then Debt Jurisprudence put me on the line with some mental midget named Mr. Kramer who tried to tell me that they have "proprietary" ways of wiping out my student loans and guess what only $2000 to eliminate $60,000 in student loans....and that only covered 3 accounts, he wanted $1500 for each account over 3. This Kramer guy must be retarded, its all legal but its "proprietary" or magical so only he knows about it and by the way it will cost you. Debt Jurisprudence is very magical.....they can make your money disappear PRESTO

mathew
Beverly Hills, California
U.S.A.

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#1 Update By Author

Debt Jurisprudence Debt Jurisprudence scam

AUTHOR: mathew - Beverly Hills (U.S.A.)

Debt Jurisprudence should be willing to tell people exactly how they eliminate government backed student loans. Debt Jurisprudence doesn't explain anything......you wanna know why........because it is their "proprietary" debt durisprudence magical process. Have Debt jurisprudence get on the phone with one of your government backed student loans and try to make them magically vanish........its a big lie!
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#2 Update By Author

Tell the Truth Debt Jurisprudence

AUTHOR: Mathew - Beverly Hills (U.S.A.)

All I want from Debt Jurisprudence is an admission that they are in fact a fraud organization that CANNOT eliminate student loans. I want Mr. Kramer to be honest and come clean and say "I cannot eliminate your student loans government or private.......I am very sorry I knowingly committed fraud and lied to you and swindled you out of your money"
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#3 Update By Author

Debt Jurisprudence.org is a Shady scam!!!

AUTHOR: Jim - Manhattan (U.S.A.)

Debt Jurisprudence thinks they can crap in a box and make it smell like flowers by dressing the scam up with slick multimedia. Tell Mr. Kramer to show you examples of student loans that have been taken care of and then ask him why he charges thousands of bucks that most cash strapped students could never pay.
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#4 Consumer Comment

These people are not telling the truth

AUTHOR: Laura - Springfield (U.S.A.)

These posts are just not true.

Several of my friends and I signed up with Debt Jurisprudence last year and all of us had credit card and student loan debts. We spoke with a lot of different people in the company, and some of us, including myself, spoke with Dave Kramer. Neither he or anybody else ever claimed that they would cancel or eliminate debts of any kind, and nobody there ever claimed to be an attorney or said anything that was untrue. Everything we were told was confirmed by reading the information on their web site.

I am doing this 1 time post because everybody I know that signed up with Debt Jurisprudence is satisfied with the results and service they provide.
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#5 Consumer Comment

Same person posts lies under assumed names

AUTHOR: Marty - Brooklyn (U.S.A.)

The fraud described here has nothing to do with Debt Jurisprudence, Dave Kramer, or anybody else that works for them. It's being perpetrated by somebody who can't even remember if their name is Mathew from Hollywood California, Jim from Hollywood or Beverly Hills California, or Jim from New York.

This person uses multiple identities and has posted lies elsewhere on this ripoff site about Dave Kramer with Debt Jurisprudence, Doyle Bruekner with Integrity Debt Solutions, and Paul Cohen with Credit Defense League. He or she uses the names Jennifer, Jim, Matt and Mathew from Hollywood or Beverly Hills California, and Jim from New York. Every one of the postings are against a debt related company, so maybe he or she works for one of their competitors.
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#6 Consumer Comment

Debt Jurisprudence student loan proof???

AUTHOR: Erik - Dallas (U.S.A.)

I have seen Debt Jrisprudence claims :

Consumer Accounts Price
Up To 6 Consumer Accounts $4,500.00
Each Additional Consumer Account $ 500.00
Each Private Or Government Backed Student Loan Account (with consumer account enrollment) $1,000.00
Each Business Account (with consumer account enrollment) $1,500.00
Private Or Government Backed Student Loans
(Without Consumer Account Enrollment)

Up To 3 Student Loan Accounts $4,500.00
Each Additional Student Loan Account $1,000.00
Business Accounts
(Without Consumer Account Enrollment)

Up To 3 Business Accounts $6,000.00
Each Additional Business Account $1,500.00

Why would any student pay $4500 plus $1000 for each additional account to "negotiate or settle" a federal student loan when the only way to cancel or adjust student loans is 100% disability or death??? It is a scam thats why...let Debt Jurisprudence explain their way out of this one!
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#7 Update By Author

Dave Kramer is NOT a lawyer!!!

AUTHOR: Jim - Beverly Hills (U.S.A.)

Eric you are absolutely correct Debt Jurisprudence cannot help people with student loan debts call the FTC and simply ask them if Dave Kramer a pathetic poser who is NOT a lawyer can relieve you of your student loans government and private for $4500 and an additional $1000 for every account over 3.

Dave Kramer if he was an honest guy would call the FTC and get their blessing on his "proprietary" debt invalidation process, but he won't because he is an ignorant internet scam marketer who is trying to to profit at the expense of the consumer!
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#8 Consumer Comment

A coincidence?

AUTHOR: Marty - Brooklyn (U.S.A.)

If you were harmed or ripped off by Debt Jurisprudence, why don't you talk to them about it and then post something here if it doesn't get resolved.

Is Erik your new name this week?
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#9 Consumer Suggestion

Dave Kramer should demonstrate his student loan process!!!

AUTHOR: Erik - Dallas (U.S.A.)

If Dave Kramer was a legitimate businessman he would openly demonstrate his so-called "proprietary" legal method to grealy lessen or terminate government student loans. Dave number 1 there is no such thing in US law as a "proprietary" legal process, the legal process is in the public domain.........so it would appear that you are grossly misinforming your customers and number 2 you are presenting yourself as some kind of legal sage when in fact you are simply a jabony from Missouri who likes to pretend he is a lawyer........very sad Dave!

Dave come clean and admit the fraud you are responsible for...........that is the first step to making things right with the consumers you conned!!
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#10 Consumer Comment

Debt Jurisprudence

AUTHOR: Paul - Madison (U.S.A.)

The solution to this I agree is for Debt Jurisprudence to show proof regarding student loans. Until Debt Jurisprudence demonstrates proof it is BS!
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