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Complaint Review: Zach Dunn, Sara Carl, Dan Long, Duke, Beth, Scott, Shirley, Jesse LeMay- Innovative Managment Inc. - Tempe, Tucson, Phoenix, & Scottsdale Arizona

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  • Zach Dunn, Sara Carl, Dan Long, Duke, Beth, Scott, Shirley, Jesse LeMay- Innovative Managment Inc. 1. 3204 S Fair Ln, Tempe, AZ? <--- No Longer There 2. 4515 S Lakeshore Dr, Tempe, AZ <--- Current Address Of Z&S 3.)3904 N Placita La Vina, Tucson, AZ Tempe, Tucson, Phoenix, & Scottsdale, Arizona U.S.A.

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***PART ONE***
**** READERS: BEWARE OF THE "CULT"****
I have had a lot of time to do reserch on this company's record and I found some "astonishing" things that I feel that i should share with the ex, current, and soon to be employees. For those of you who know me it should not be hard to find out who I am if you knew me. I was at the company for a significant amount of time till there was an "incedent" and a "emergency" that woke me up to the real tragic and illegal and illegitament buisness of people.

**** The Ad ****
Like most of the people came in contact with this place of buisness I answered one of many ads that are placed into either the newspaper or that is updatded every single day on Craigs Lists somewhere. There was a time when I finally got through the levels where "Zach Dunn" so he calls himself pulled the managers into the office to and explained what these ads are for. He said that the ads should be geared or ambitous people. "Sports-Minded", "Hard-Working", "Motivated"
**** The Call-To and The Call-Back ****
If you called a newspaper ad or responded to the craigslist or many of the other ads the there was either a email to repsond to or a phone number. When I called there was a women by the name of Shatiana Grainger. I really had strong connection with her when I first talked to here over the phone she was reading a basic script of questions. It is as follows:

____Name of company____ how can help you? Okay so responding to our ad great. Can you tell me a little about your past work experience? Great, well the postion is a full-time position Mon-Fri from 8-5. It intales some basic office duties like phones, filing , faxing, cash flow and invetory as well as some running a small team of people. U would be in charge of there Hiring/Firing, paperwork and processing. Does this sound like something you would be interested in?

The kicker is that if the person is weird or can speak english, sounds gay, asks you too many questions such as about pay, sounds old or any other off-setting trait you will automatically be cut. If you asked to come-in you will not be the only one. 200 people call a day on the ad at least a day. out of those people 75% of those people are set-up for a 1st interview.

**** 1st Interveiw ****
These are held in the Mid-day. Mondays- Fridays. The first thing that you will notice is that there will be either someone patroling the parking lots
*****Arizona is an equal opportunity employer state. This means that you are not allowed to discriminate against anyone for color, sex, sexual oreintation, or age. But they do all of that ******

Once you file out the bull$#!t application they give you and another person usally are carted off into Zach, Sara, or whoever they have working for them office for a fake interveiwing process. This takes only 5 min of your time. If your invited back for the second interveiw they will make this gigantic deal about it so that u feel special. But your really only a cog in the machine.

****2nd Interveiw****
This is where the company starts the "CULT-LIKE" BRAINWASHING process. I all starts on tuesdays. You will be greeted in a professional manner. They will take u back to a room filled with folding chairs. If all the seats are filled the people upfront have done there job. You'll sit in a room and listen to zach talk about stuff that means nothing to you. The most important thing about the 2nd interveiw is the FFAR( Freinds, Family, Assocaites and Relitives). This is a ploy for them to see who really has the most conncetions. This I belive where the majority of the money is produced other than high producing managers which I once was. If every chair in the room is filled with people then if every person sells one bottle then they will at least make some cash....Why because the bottles of perfume cost "Branch Managers" is about $9...but they make you sell it to your family about $40. So you do the math. That's $25 that they pocket multiplied by 30-50ppl. That's $750-$1250wk. Minimal on people selling. But they make you feel like you should do more with the spiff. *** By the way you will never see the money from that spiff ***. Even as a manger in training I was always approched about that money and I was told always to revert back to zach and sara. Suprise Surpise!!!!!

**** This is the most important and Definitive proof. They have you sign an " Idependent Contracter Agreement. This basically states that the company is not "Hiring" u but they are giving you product to sell for them. This basically mean that any trouble, tresspasing laws, soliciting laws and Police that u incounter u are responsiable. They will not help you in anyway. In fact they will deny that you even " work " for them. Which technically you don't. ****

THIS CONCLUDES PART ONE***

T-Rex
Tempe, Arizona
U.S.A.

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#12 UPDATE EX-employee responds

I worked there too

AUTHOR: chriskeator - (United States of America)

POSTED: Wednesday, March 31, 2010

It's cool reading all of what you guys are saying cause when I was working there I hear both stories all the time. I was there for 10 weeks, got a triple or double promotion every week and even had my own crew making some decent money and it got to the point where I didn't even have to go out with my crew and I still made money of the sales they made which was sweet. I talked to Sara a while ago and heard Zach moved to Florida I think to start another branch... but the point is I do miss the company... it was the hardest job I've ever had in my life, but it helped me build character and perseverance. I quit cause I wanted to move to cali to be a full time musician and try to become famous or something... never worked out haha. But its a great company only if you're willing to work your a*s off! 

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#11 UPDATE Employee

perfume scams dan, sarah carl, neil johnston.

AUTHOR: nana - (United States of America)

POSTED: Sunday, February 21, 2010

The new address is 6574 s dateland phone number is 480-820-2133. Sara Carl, Niel Johnston, Dan Long. It is a fraud the new group of suckers hired start on Monday 02-22-10 at 12-2 again on Tue and then a full day on wed. I have information please stay away it is dangerous and evil. How they are not in prison yet I do not know but its comming!

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re:ha

AUTHOR: A - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, June 28, 2009

If you were able to make the thousand dollars for extra pocket change, then you must be just as shystee as the people who hired you, or robbed your branch manager while you were sneaking into a hotel.

I worked for this company fall of 2008. I was is a big jam with bills and being layed off of my job was no help. When I was contacted for a branch managers position, I was shocked.

I was starting to think, that the world really is full of opportunities, which is true but only to a certain extent. There is a difference between opportunity and taking advantage of an opportunity.

The people in control of these distribution companies are indeed con artists, looking to train other con artists. It's not that selling cologne that is fake is being a con artist. I mean if people are wiling to buy it then by all means sell it to them. But to be trained into what to say/con, inorder to get this job done.

I do admit that I learned some great direct marketing techniques and did improve my communication skills, but I did not advance in my life.

While I was off in another city trying to pay bills, I was being robbed at home by my roomate. I spent Friday in Phoenix thinking that It was jus to meet Zach Dunn and the gang, but it was to hit goals. They talked me into staying by motivating me to make money.

I did make money but very little, and what I did make was spend on food. I went into overdraft as well with my debit because I was broke.

13 hours approaching and pitching, and finally we find a motel to crash at. Of course our team of 3 would have to decide a person to sleep on the floor. No big deal, it's just a floor, but to lie to the motel and say you have wedding dresses and to get another bed is just another fact of conmanship.

It's funny because we were caught sneaking the two people into the room, seeing how it was only payed for one person. The manager had to spend money at another hotel for the night, which is no big deal, but I was freakin tired from all the work and making no money.

I would have quit, but I had no way to get home and plus I was kind of glad to get out of my city and see some different faces.

When we returned, I waited till the next wendsday so I can eat the tasty wings that they provided for the new comers. There were two girls that were next up hired and ready to be turned into con artists. I wanted to tell them, but the managers were always there to prevent any conversation.

Even that Wendsday when I was supposed to train one of the girls to learn, I was not given this option. I thought I was promoted to manager already, but no I was still selling cologne.

I did not return Thursday but my phone was blowing up from these people. Probablly wanted to convince me to come back, but I didn't answer. One week and a trip was enough for me.

The trip would have sucked due to the fact they say no alchohal, no cell phones, no sex, and a bunch of other crap.

Well just for the record, I had sex with three different girls on three different nights, and smoked a bunch of chronic. Furthermore I think Sara Carl is hot, and I would work that job again, just to get a little close to her. Lol.

May memories make us stronger.

A Dizzle,

Tuc Town

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#9 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Ha

AUTHOR: Cprodrigues - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, February 20, 2009

Very humorous I'd have to admit...You want to talk about big words...Honey you cant even spell simple ones...lol...

And no they dont pay me a dime...its just I got tired of seeing yall jamokes dog on them...

I hardly even talk to them...but from time to time..

And me quitting the job for my niece...was something I HAD to do...because I have morals. And despite what everyone said I still did...You dont need to know my situation!

Currently, TREX I'm in college studying to get my Master's in Physics to become a Physics teacher...if you really want to know...

Just because I left this company doesnt mean Im not a go getter and will not succeed!!!

And you?? I imagine just sitting on your hobo A$$ making Part 1, Part 2 and so on!!!

Couldnt sleep? Hmm I never had that problem...because my team made money and so did I...and while the time I was there I was able to save a couple thousand, and still have extra money to live. So hmmm...

Maybe you just werent cut out for the job!!

And I never sold my customer lies...thats something you did. So feel guilty if you must

The point blank FACT is you CHOSE to stay there and work and sell the product!

And now that you didnt get what you thought you were getting because you were too WEAKMINDED, you want to blame others!

Get on with life like I did when I left :) Get a job :) Go to school :) Most of luck to you :) Dont be mad at yourself because you couldn't cut it honey :)

Dont be another statistic to them :) and if you were there long enough you know what Im talking about...

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Ha

AUTHOR: Cprodrigues - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, February 20, 2009

Very humorous I'd have to admit...You want to talk about big words...Honey you cant even spell simple ones...lol...

And no they dont pay me a dime...its just I got tired of seeing yall jamokes dog on them...

I hardly even talk to them...but from time to time..

And me quitting the job for my niece...was something I HAD to do...because I have morals. And despite what everyone said I still did...You dont need to know my situation!

Currently, TREX I'm in college studying to get my Master's in Physics to become a Physics teacher...if you really want to know...

Just because I left this company doesnt mean Im not a go getter and will not succeed!!!

And you?? I imagine just sitting on your hobo A$$ making Part 1, Part 2 and so on!!!

Couldnt sleep? Hmm I never had that problem...because my team made money and so did I...and while the time I was there I was able to save a couple thousand, and still have extra money to live. So hmmm...

Maybe you just werent cut out for the job!!

And I never sold my customer lies...thats something you did. So feel guilty if you must

The point blank FACT is you CHOSE to stay there and work and sell the product!

And now that you didnt get what you thought you were getting because you were too WEAKMINDED, you want to blame others!

Get on with life like I did when I left :) Get a job :) Go to school :) Most of luck to you :) Dont be mad at yourself because you couldn't cut it honey :)

Dont be another statistic to them :) and if you were there long enough you know what Im talking about...

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Ha

AUTHOR: Cprodrigues - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, February 20, 2009

Very humorous I'd have to admit...You want to talk about big words...Honey you cant even spell simple ones...lol...

And no they dont pay me a dime...its just I got tired of seeing yall jamokes dog on them...

I hardly even talk to them...but from time to time..

And me quitting the job for my niece...was something I HAD to do...because I have morals. And despite what everyone said I still did...You dont need to know my situation!

Currently, TREX I'm in college studying to get my Master's in Physics to become a Physics teacher...if you really want to know...

Just because I left this company doesnt mean Im not a go getter and will not succeed!!!

And you?? I imagine just sitting on your hobo A$$ making Part 1, Part 2 and so on!!!

Couldnt sleep? Hmm I never had that problem...because my team made money and so did I...and while the time I was there I was able to save a couple thousand, and still have extra money to live. So hmmm...

Maybe you just werent cut out for the job!!

And I never sold my customer lies...thats something you did. So feel guilty if you must

The point blank FACT is you CHOSE to stay there and work and sell the product!

And now that you didnt get what you thought you were getting because you were too WEAKMINDED, you want to blame others!

Get on with life like I did when I left :) Get a job :) Go to school :) Most of luck to you :) Dont be mad at yourself because you couldn't cut it honey :)

Dont be another statistic to them :) and if you were there long enough you know what Im talking about...

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Ha

AUTHOR: Cprodrigues - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, February 20, 2009

Very humorous I'd have to admit...You want to talk about big words...Honey you cant even spell simple ones...lol...

And no they dont pay me a dime...its just I got tired of seeing yall jamokes dog on them...

I hardly even talk to them...but from time to time..

And me quitting the job for my niece...was something I HAD to do...because I have morals. And despite what everyone said I still did...You dont need to know my situation!

Currently, TREX I'm in college studying to get my Master's in Physics to become a Physics teacher...if you really want to know...

Just because I left this company doesnt mean Im not a go getter and will not succeed!!!

And you?? I imagine just sitting on your hobo A$$ making Part 1, Part 2 and so on!!!

Couldnt sleep? Hmm I never had that problem...because my team made money and so did I...and while the time I was there I was able to save a couple thousand, and still have extra money to live. So hmmm...

Maybe you just werent cut out for the job!!

And I never sold my customer lies...thats something you did. So feel guilty if you must

The point blank FACT is you CHOSE to stay there and work and sell the product!

And now that you didnt get what you thought you were getting because you were too WEAKMINDED, you want to blame others!

Get on with life like I did when I left :) Get a job :) Go to school :) Most of luck to you :) Dont be mad at yourself because you couldn't cut it honey :)

Dont be another statistic to them :) and if you were there long enough you know what Im talking about...

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PART 2..... U will never SILENCE us.

AUTHOR: Trinidad and tobago - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, February 11, 2009

**** PART 2 ****

If you have read the first part and opped to quit at this point then this should be the deciding factor.Let me fill you in on your first days of work are going to look like, for them and for you.

**** Wednesday ( your 1st actual day of work ) ****
You will get there and there will be people on the lots making sure that nobody is talking together or giving off "NEGITIVE ENERGY" or so they call it. It really baffles me on how many people are so-called negitive. But that is not it . People talk, they talk to eachother. THE VOX POPULI
****Juice Room****
If you have been in this room before usually it was because u didn;t make the good cut to go to the managers rooms. But anyway there is will be a whiteboard, Lots of chairs, A board with possiable cities that you can open in, and the board that shows the levels. It's called that because that is where you are suppose to get everyone juiced up in. A mix of people that are surrounded by managers to team-up on the new people. This is part of the brain washing cause all these people are new and don't feeled threated by them...yet.

****Wednesday cont.****
After you sit and listen to more of zach's BS u will be teamed up and driven off to walk around to business and sell perfume. Yes, in your High Heels and Suits and everything. u will do that for about 4 hrs. HOPE it;s not summer. When you get back you will be praised with applause for your 1 sale....ooo good for you. U just scammed someone. And waisted a whole day of job searching and gas money...lol




Hopefully you will get sick and tired of walking and dragged to unfilmiluar areas and give it up. like 70% of the people that come to there sense right away that this is a scam.

****** I URGE U IF YOU HAVE BEEEN SCAMMED BY THESE PEOPLE TOO PLEASE PUT UP YOUR STORY AND INFO YOU HAVE ABOUT THE COMPANY *******



***** PART 2 END *****

T-REX

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PART 2..... U will never SILENCE us.

AUTHOR: Trinidad and tobago - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, February 11, 2009

**** PART 2 ****

If you have read the first part and opped to quit at this point then this should be the deciding factor.Let me fill you in on your first days of work are going to look like, for them and for you.

**** Wednesday ( your 1st actual day of work ) ****
You will get there and there will be people on the lots making sure that nobody is talking together or giving off "NEGITIVE ENERGY" or so they call it. It really baffles me on how many people are so-called negitive. But that is not it . People talk, they talk to eachother. THE VOX POPULI
****Juice Room****
If you have been in this room before usually it was because u didn;t make the good cut to go to the managers rooms. But anyway there is will be a whiteboard, Lots of chairs, A board with possiable cities that you can open in, and the board that shows the levels. It's called that because that is where you are suppose to get everyone juiced up in. A mix of people that are surrounded by managers to team-up on the new people. This is part of the brain washing cause all these people are new and don't feeled threated by them...yet.

****Wednesday cont.****
After you sit and listen to more of zach's BS u will be teamed up and driven off to walk around to business and sell perfume. Yes, in your High Heels and Suits and everything. u will do that for about 4 hrs. HOPE it;s not summer. When you get back you will be praised with applause for your 1 sale....ooo good for you. U just scammed someone. And waisted a whole day of job searching and gas money...lol




Hopefully you will get sick and tired of walking and dragged to unfilmiluar areas and give it up. like 70% of the people that come to there sense right away that this is a scam.

****** I URGE U IF YOU HAVE BEEEN SCAMMED BY THESE PEOPLE TOO PLEASE PUT UP YOUR STORY AND INFO YOU HAVE ABOUT THE COMPANY *******



***** PART 2 END *****

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PART 2..... U will never SILENCE us.

AUTHOR: Trinidad and tobago - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, February 11, 2009

**** PART 2 ****

If you have read the first part and opped to quit at this point then this should be the deciding factor.Let me fill you in on your first days of work are going to look like, for them and for you.

**** Wednesday ( your 1st actual day of work ) ****
You will get there and there will be people on the lots making sure that nobody is talking together or giving off "NEGITIVE ENERGY" or so they call it. It really baffles me on how many people are so-called negitive. But that is not it . People talk, they talk to eachother. THE VOX POPULI
****Juice Room****
If you have been in this room before usually it was because u didn;t make the good cut to go to the managers rooms. But anyway there is will be a whiteboard, Lots of chairs, A board with possiable cities that you can open in, and the board that shows the levels. It's called that because that is where you are suppose to get everyone juiced up in. A mix of people that are surrounded by managers to team-up on the new people. This is part of the brain washing cause all these people are new and don't feeled threated by them...yet.

****Wednesday cont.****
After you sit and listen to more of zach's BS u will be teamed up and driven off to walk around to business and sell perfume. Yes, in your High Heels and Suits and everything. u will do that for about 4 hrs. HOPE it;s not summer. When you get back you will be praised with applause for your 1 sale....ooo good for you. U just scammed someone. And waisted a whole day of job searching and gas money...lol




Hopefully you will get sick and tired of walking and dragged to unfilmiluar areas and give it up. like 70% of the people that come to there sense right away that this is a scam.

****** I URGE U IF YOU HAVE BEEEN SCAMMED BY THESE PEOPLE TOO PLEASE PUT UP YOUR STORY AND INFO YOU HAVE ABOUT THE COMPANY *******



***** PART 2 END *****

T-REX

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I will never be silenced along with all the other you "STOLE" from morally. SPEAK OUT IF YOU HAVE A VOICE THERE ARE MORE OF US.

AUTHOR: Trinidad And Tobago - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, February 11, 2009

Courtney,
If anyone is talking out of their a*s it is u. They have to be kicking you back some nice pocket change to make urself look like such a dumb individual. I worked for the company almost 6 months. I know what I am talking about. It wasn't till a "incedent" at the company broke the delusional brainwashing power that they had on me that I realized how wrong this is. They are a school that trains con-artist to profit the stuipid, rich, weak, not of sound mind people that are struggling in this economy. I admit that if someone is dumb enough to buy a bottle of $9 perfume for $60 then that is there bad. But it doesn't make it morally right. The people that come to this company need money now, and instead of truly helping them u scam them out of the little money they have left. That is sick, and wrong. That is why I left. I couldn't sleep with myself at night with what I had become from "YOU PEOPLE". Also I wonder why it is that you "DON'T HAVE YOUR OWN BRANCH WHEN U LOVE THEM SO MUCH." " AND WHERE DO YOU WORK AT NOW CAUSE THERE MOTO IS KIDS SHOULDN'T STOP YOU FROM TAKING CARE OF BIZ IF THEY TRUELY CARE THAT MUCH." I just find you being the only person that defends this slumlord company. But yet your not working for them either...or are you. I think this is you job so you can stay how with your neice. They kick you back so that when people google the address for their interveiw the "SCAM" page isn;t the first thing to pop up. So I know you are very busy making ur binine cases to everyone that is here that filed reports on the company. So get back to your "job", but just so you know. " I WILL NOT BE SILENCED. THE (VOX POPULI)
A.) a change the name of the company and move for the millionth time
or
B.) Sit back and wait for it to come. And bealive us it will.


T-REX

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Totally Bogus!

AUTHOR: Cprodrigues - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, February 09, 2009

You know I sit back and read ALL of these reports that are filed on Zach Dunn, Sara Carl and especially Dan Long and Duke...Duke and Dan Long are two of the most respected of anyone at this company.

Now Im an ex-employee...and I know what they say about the ex emplyees there...that we are ''jamoks". Now that is the definition of jamoks, get your information right. I worked for IMI for nearly a year, I'm from Houston, TX and that is where they recruited me and we all transferred to Phoenix, AZ. This company is NOT a scam, apparently T-Rex you didnt work there long enough to realize this. What a couple of weeks that is nothing! You were still a rookie to them! Zach and Sara were my idols, I didnt have my family and I was living on my own and I made enough money every night to get a hotel room and if not they would help! Now tell my that doesnt just prove they care. And what you said about getting tickets and them not caring that is just bullshit! When I was there one of the employees got arrested for something that didnt even deal with the company and Zach bailed them out. Another time Rahul an ex employee drove to Arizona when we relocated and hit a deer and Zach payed for his car to be fixed.I mean was that even his responsibiliy. No! When I didnt have enough clothes Zach took me to the mall and bought me some suits. Sara was there for me through thick and thin. Sometimes I really do regret quitting but I had to come back to Houston to take care of my niece. So I had to put her first. I truly do miss those days, and Zach and Sara.. Maybe you just couldnt hang and you quit and now your mad at yourself but you never got the chance to see the real of this company.. Oh and the owners of the company do not pay 9 per bottle...you seriously are talking out of your a*s. HAHA..and I will not disclose any more information about this company.

Thanks,
Courtney Rodriguessssss

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