#1 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Stacey - Dallas (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, February 07, 2012
POSTED: Tuesday, February 07, 2012
Definition - 'discrimination' is the prejudicial treatment of an individual based on their membership in a certain group or category. Discrimination is the actual behavior towards members of another group. It involves excluding or restricting members of one group from opportunities that are available to other groups.
You were not discriminated against and you can post all the letters, photos etc. Maybe this is Planned Parenthood's policies against spouses, significant others and such in the exam room due to HIPPA or another policy.
I do commend you on being an adult and taking precautions against unwanted pregnancy. And no I do not work for Planned Parenthood but I do support them.
#2 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: concernedcitizen - Saint Louis (USA)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, February 07, 2012
POSTED: Tuesday, February 07, 2012
This is not discrimination. Discrimination is based on a violation of the Title VII Civil Rights Legislation. However, it is rather easy to misconstrue that you have been violated based on this civil legislation. Discrimination based on this type of legislation typically is for employment purposes. The ACLU does not entertain discrimination based on Civil Rights Legislation. If you were mad enough to voice your first amendment right at that office then give them a call.
#3 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Jeanski - Buffalo (USA)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, February 08, 2012
POSTED: Wednesday, February 08, 2012
This isn't discrimination, as the previous posters pointed out.
I never thought I'd disagree with Stacey but it wouldn't be a violation of HIPAA if she gave her consent for her husband to be present.
I believe that PP had reason to believe that this woman was being abused, and wanted to give her a private and safe environment in which to disclose this information. Otherwise, there would be no reason to exclude the husband since she gave her consent.
Another possibility might be that exam rooms aren't as private as they'd like, and having a man in there might be disconcerting to other female patients.
#4 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Robert - Irvine (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, February 08, 2012
POSTED: Wednesday, February 08, 2012
First off as others have commented this is NOT discrimination, and they may actually have very valid grounds for their policies.
But no where did the OP state they were looking to take "precautions"(as in before) for an unwanted pregnancy. They specifically said they were seeking "Birth Control Services". So it really depends on what "Birth Control Service" the OP was looking for that may further explain the reaction of PP.
I would agree that this "private" time probably has more to do with counseling than any other issues. Again the reason for this would probably be clearer if the specific reason the OP went there was known. Because it could be to get the woman's true feelings away from any other influence. After all if it is because of an abusive situation, the woman will not be as open with the abuser sitting in the chair right next to them.
While I don't even want to begin to infer that I know how a woman feels after being raped. But in this case she went to them. For all intensive purposes this is supposed to be a safe environment. So unless there is something else going on why would she have any reason to be afraid? It is not like she is walking back to her car after a 2AM shopping trip to her local 24-Hour supermarket.
I would wonder if she went in with a Female Relative or Trusted Female Friend if they would still require her to be alone? If not then perhaps that is a good alternative for her.
#5 Update By Author
AUTHOR: Kimv2002 - Manteca (USA)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, February 08, 2012
POSTED: Wednesday, February 08, 2012
What i forgot to mention was that i have been here before. They wanted to spend 20 min. giving me a question air. i have been before and i never was giving a question air before. The staff would not even speak with me. or even look at me when i would speak. they acted as if i was not there. i need my husband present for everything but using the rest room. i have separation Anxiety, and a language comprehension disorder. so not only where they not allowing me to have my husband present, but my aid. I only have my husband, because i disowned my family for there emotionally abusive addituied. I don't tolerate that being done to me.
Why i said it was discrimination was because i have never, nor has anyone i known ever been giving a question air before when they have gone there, yet when i came with my husband i was supposed to be given a 20 min. one? i find that odd.
#6 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Stacey - Dallas (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, February 08, 2012
POSTED: Wednesday, February 08, 2012
Just kidding - threw in the HIPAA just to start fishing for an answer. I stand by my post because I fail to see that you were discriminated against. Where in the law does it state that not allowing your husband with you when answering questions constitute discrimination?
I worked with Victims of DV, Sexual Assault and other Violent Crimes as well as being a victim of one yet I have no problem visiting a DR. I don't understand the reason you cannot answer a few questions with staff. Maybe they just wanted to visit with you with only the best intentions?
Regardless I do applaud you and your husband for being proactive and responsible. Good luck to you.
#7 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - United States (USA)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, February 09, 2012
POSTED: Thursday, February 09, 2012
Who would listen to what stacy has to say. She is nothing but a bitch who mistreat & abuses people, & if people get "Angry" me making a comment so big deal.
Nobody should listen what stacy has to say. She gives bad advice.
#8 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Stacey - Dallas (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, February 09, 2012
POSTED: Thursday, February 09, 2012
Does that mean I have the ability to conjure a spell that will make you disappear CHARLS? You can't spell my name right so I will not spell yours correctly you worthless burden on society.
Planned Parenthood is a GREAT Organization and I support them 100%. I suggest you stop hijacking reports for your only agenda which is "Pay attention to me because I am the victim". Pathetic.
#9 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Rev. Jeff Rhoades - Manteca (USA)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, February 09, 2012
POSTED: Friday, February 10, 2012
I am the husband of the woman who filed this report. They told me that, "I can only be present if she wants me there." SO, she tried telling them repeatedly that she wants me present. They acted as if she was not even talking to them at all. Also, we have looked at the policies of PP that are posted online. NONE of them state that if a woman comes in that is "attached" (whether that be she is Married or Dating, etc.) that she MUST be willing to submit to private questioning (away from her significant other) in order to be given service. Now, when we filed the formal complaint with their office and their Supervisor, we asked for a copy of their Policy where they state that women who are not Single must submit to private meetings and questionairs. They denied this simple request. PP may REQUEST a woman to speak with them privately. However, they DO NOT have the legal right to make the woman's compliance with their request a condition for receiving Service.
#10 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Flynrider - Phoenix (USA)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, February 11, 2012
POSTED: Saturday, February 11, 2012
" However, they DO NOT have the legal right to make the woman's compliance with their request a condition for receiving Service. "
I was under the impression that Planned Parenthood was a private organization. Since you brought up "legal rights", what law compels them to provide services at all?
If you were talking about a public service, I might buy your theory. I think you're barking up the wrong legal tree. You don't get to dictate terms to a private organization. If you don't like their terms, you are free to go elsewhere. I think your sense of outrage and claims of discrimination are sorely misplaced. As a matter of fact, I think your entire understanding of the meaning of "discrimination" could use some work.
#11 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Rev. Jeff Rhoades - Manteca (USA)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, February 11, 2012
POSTED: Saturday, February 11, 2012
PP receives federal funding. That makes them, legally, a public entity, not a private one. We also asked them for a copy of their policy that states that they are allowed to exclude a woman's husband from conversations against her wishes...and make her cooperation a condition of service. They refused. Also, we have a court date, so we will be having a Judge make the final call.
One of the reasons, in addition to her Separation Anxiety, that my wife wants me present is because she has a Communication Disorder called Aphasia. She has problems expressing exactly what she means in its entirety. She wanted me there to help her communicate and for emotional support.
Again, this is her legal right and PP legally has to respect her wishes. When they claimed that "this was their policy" we asked for a copy of that in writing. They refused. We've already had an attorney's office confirm our rights, stating that PP legally has to respect her decision to have me present.
As I said, we were given a court date for Small Claims. We will have a Judge settle this.
#12 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Charles - United States (USA)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, February 11, 2012
POSTED: Saturday, February 11, 2012
Stacy is being childish again. All she wants to do is pay back everybody.
#13 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Ashley - springfield (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, February 13, 2012
POSTED: Monday, February 13, 2012
I hate to say it, but you're dead wrong. Planned parenthood *is* a private organization. Just because a company recieves federal dollars, that does not make it a public organization. Public organizations are run by the government, planned parenthood is not. The government gives grants to lots of organizations annually, that does not make them public organizations.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_parenthood
Planned parenthood is a private nonprofit organization. They can set up whatever rules they like as long as they follow federal discrimination laws. Since you are suing them, I guess you won't mind posting the case number/docket number when you get it so the rest of us can see what is decided?
#14 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Rev. Jeff Rhoades - Manteca (USA)
SUBMITTED: Monday, February 13, 2012
POSTED: Monday, February 13, 2012
Yes, once the case is decided, I will be happy to post the case number. If an organization receives federal funding, regardless of if it is Public or Private, they are not allowed to discriminate.
Now, my wife has PTSD, Separation Anxiety, Aphasia and ADHD. She told them that she needs me present for support. The ADA laws do cover things like PTSD and other Anxiety related disorders. PP ignored her when she told them about this in person and in writing, refused to call her back properly (they used a phone code to avoid talking to us, sending their call straight to voicemail repeatedly (Lisa Riley did that one). They only called us back directly after we, on Lisa's voicemail, threatened to go ahead with our lawsuit if they didn't call us back and handle this properly.
There are organizations that have had their federal funding revoked after being found guilty of discrimination. They were asked to allow me back there with her. Because we are legally married, they are actually REQUIRED to honor that request. They refused. We told them about her disabilities and explained the reason why she needed me to be present, they still refused. They have repeatedly lied to us through the whole complaint handling process. And, imo, are quite ignorant of the laws concerning the matter. We have been in many Doctors offices and also to the Health Department in Florida. The doctors offices know the law and never gave us a hard time. The Health Department attempted to give us a hard time, was threatened with a lawsuit, apologized to us and allowed me back there. She and I sat there together when she took their "abuse survey". Doctors have asked me to step out of the room, but the instant (and she always does this) my wife says, "No, I WANT him here." the doctor ALWAYS agrees, as they are required to by law. This is true of BOTH Public and Private practices.
Wikipedia is not a valid source of information, because ANYONE can change it. I could post on Wikipedia that PP is actually a farming organization that grows Oranges in Texas (their not and they don't) and it would appear on Wikipedia.
#15 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Flynrider - Phoenix (USA)
SUBMITTED: Monday, February 13, 2012
POSTED: Monday, February 13, 2012
This report just gets more amusing by the day. I would love to be a fly on the wall in the small claims court that hears this nonsense.
#16 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Ashley - springfield (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, February 13, 2012
POSTED: Monday, February 13, 2012
You made the statement that because Planned Parenthood recieves federal dollars that makes thema public organization not a private organization. That is completely false. While I agree that ANY organzation had to follow discrimination laws and the ADA, that doesn't make them public organizations. Even organizations that do not recieve the funding would have to follow these laws. I was merely disagreeing with your statement that planned parenthood is a public organization because of the fact that they recieve federal dollars.
Good luck with your lawsuit, I think you're going to have an uphill battle on this one. Proving they are discriminating against the disability will be rough if they have a blanket policy.
#17 Update By Author
AUTHOR: Kimv2002 - Manteca (USA)
SUBMITTED: Monday, February 13, 2012
POSTED: Monday, February 13, 2012
you do know you never are supposed to use that site for a main resource as anyone and their mothers can edit it.
#18 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Steve - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Monday, February 13, 2012
POSTED: Monday, February 13, 2012
Just curious. Oh, and have others have tired to explain to you, PP is a *private* organization.
#19 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Inspector - Tobyhanna (USA)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, February 14, 2012
POSTED: Tuesday, February 14, 2012
This Rev guy sounds controlling and Kim is afflicted with so many ailments she should be in the hospital. I feel that stockholm syndrome is also one of her problems. I can fully understand the policy of PP wanting to see her alone.
Are you really incapable of making a decision? Or does the good Rev. allow you to make one? Good luck with your lawsuit, what do you think you will get from it, do you think PP will change their policy?
#20 Consumer Comment
AUTHOR: Ashley - springfield (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, February 14, 2012
POSTED: Tuesday, February 14, 2012
That's fine. Its really easy to check the references at the bottom. If they were a public entity, then they would be run by the government. They are not, they simply recieve government grants. I run a non-profit organization also, and we recieve government grants. Does that mean I am now a public entity? Nope. I still make the decisions with my board for my non-profit.
Again, good luck with your lawsuit. None of us will believe you until you post proof on an actual lawsuit.
