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  • Submitted: Friday, August 28, 2009
  • Last Posting: Friday, May 21, 2010
  • Reported By: Steve — Phoenix Arizona USA
A&A Manufacturing
www.aamfg.com Phoenix Arizona 85019 United States of America

A&A Manufacturing A and A Manufacturing, A & A MFG A&A produces junk that is not even worth $ 20 sells it for $ 400 - Our home almost burned down because of their negligence. Phoenix Arizona

*UPDATE by author: Update: Product had already been investigated and was still sold to us without mentioning anything


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We spent almost $ 30,000  for a  pool that was finished in 2006  (about 2.5  years ago).   we  expected to get  top quality products for the amount that we paid to Value Pools  and  ordered an "ozonator" (Quickpure II)  for  $ 400,-  plus  tax.  Value pools told us that there was a lifetime warranty on  the ozonator,  knowing that they would go out of business soon.  They never gave us  a  warranty  card for this  product.

When I  saw this "ozonator"  for the first time  I  thought that this was a joke.  Basically it was just a  tin box with a  UV Bulb and a ballast inside. Dimensions aproximately 14" X 6" X  3".  it has two holes,  one on the bottom covered with a green translucent cap that indicates if  the lamp inside is on or off.  the other hole on the side is for a hose that leads the generated ozone into the pool.  If  I had seen this product before  I  would not have ordered it.  Probably  this can be  made in China for less than $ 20,-.

I  am guessing that  A&A  made a  profit of  2000%  when they sold us this product. 

About a  month  after the equipment was intalled,  someone from A & A  manufacturing showed up and explained that he wanted to exchange  the "ozonator"  because of  some reported problems.  (we had not even called them)

The  "Ozonator"  failed  about every 3 - 6  months and has been repaired about 5 times so far.  Two times all the components  (actually  there are only  two  vital components,  the bulb and the ballast)  were exchanged,  so that  the product was basically new  (except the tin box). Now,  again  the system stopped working.  A&As  response:  "It is out of  Warranty"

One time  the "Ozonator"  almost caused a fire because it was hooked up against  A&As  recommendation.  Instead of  hooking up  the hose to  a  standpipe,  Value Pools had connected the hose directly  to  the pump.  When the check valve broke of,  allowing too much air to enter the hose and the pump,  the pump  ran dry  and melted  the  PVC  pipes.  As we saw on other reports,  it is a normal thing for the plastic check valves to fall apart  after so many  hours because the Ozone is extremely aggressive.  Value Pools  should have been advised by  A&A  not  to  connect  the  hose  directly  to the pump.  A&A  provided  instructions  to the contractors  how to install their product  and obviously  they failed to give out any warnings.  Our  house  could  have  burned down  because of  their negligence  but when we called them they did not  want  to  comment  or to explain what kind of  installation instructions they provide to contractors.  We  woke up in the middle of the night when we heard a screaming noise from the pump  and where able to shut everything off  at  a point in time when  the PVC pipes were already melted and when we saw smoke.  If  we had been travelling on that particular weekend we would have seen our home in ashes  at  our  return.

Only after we filed a complaint with the registrar of  contractors value pools corrected the installation.  We never received any warnings from A&A  or  Value pools that the check valves only last a few months and that a broken check valve  causes  the pump to run dry,  leading to melted  or even burning PVC  pipes.

I  just went to their website and saw that  obviously  they don't  sell the  "Quikpure"  systems anymore.  Maybe for some reason ???

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Update: Product had already been investigated and was still sold to us without mentioning anything

AUTHOR: Steve - apache junction (U.S.A.)

I  just found the following report from October 2005 on the Internet:

http://www.waterquality.net/upload/fmarticlesa/A_A_Units_Pool_Unit_Results_6.pdf

basically this report found that:

(1)  the product does not have any recognized safety approvals such as UL, NSF or CE

(2)  the product is not made of aluminum and therefore "there are concerns with the unit rusting  and corrosion from  ozone  and  exposure to UV  light"

(3)  the ballast is  overdriving the lamp -  ballast and lamp don't fit together resulting in premature lamp failure.

(4)  the lamp filaments are not preheated.  this causes sputtering and the blackening of  the lamp that decreases  the ozone output of the lamp.

(5)  airflow device inside the unit is restrictive and a higher airflow cannot be attained.

(6)  on all units the grounding lug was loose

(7)  unit lacks appropriate warnings,  installation instructions and a manual for the installer and the pool owner.

Yet,  this  unit was sold to us by the pool builder for over $ 400,- without mentioning  the report or any of  the inherent problems of this product.  I  feel  that it is almost fraudulent to sell something that a  laboratory has tested  and found to have several problems  as  a  "top of the line product".  We are pretty sure that A&A  had positive knowledge of this report  (published several  months before this unit was installed)   and when I  called  to  complain about the constant problems it  was  "probably  the reason is that the installer made a mistake,  there is nothing wrong with our product."



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