calastrology.com - Trae Eric Dorn calastrology.com is one of the oldest internet scams ever - Rip Off scam Internet

The above message was written by Frater Dantalion. My name is Trae D and I have written several articles critical of online spellcasters -- mostly I just proclaim that they're all scams and that no one should ever give them money.

Since then, one particular spellcaster (who usually uses the name Frater Dantalion) has decided to start a bizarre, unending hate campaign against me. Most of it you can read about on my site in an article I wrote about him (((Link Redacted)))

He started sending me bizarre e-mails again these last few days, so I thought I should search Rip off Report for my name again (seriously, search Rip Off Report for "Trae D" and you'll see more of this crap)... and low and behold, the oddities had yet again begun.

He likes to blame me for every spellcasting site he can find on the internet (that isn't one he runs himself) in an attempt to defame someone critical of him (me) and simultaneously undermine his competition... which is composed almost entirely of scammers as well. He's trying to kill two birds with one stone, but it just makes him look insane.

I had never heard of calastrology.com until I was apparently blamed for it in this post (and I'm sure my girlfriend would be very shocked if I was somehow looking for a Russian bride). A quick google search reveals an address in California... as I'm currently in northern Wisconsin, I'd say that'd be quite a drive just to pick up some mail. I seriously don't know ANYTHING about that site, but I will say that no, you shouldn't spend money on an internet spellcaster.

Duh.

So please, give it up.

CLICK here to see why Rip-off Report, as a matter of policy, deleted either a phone number, link or e-mail address from this Report.

AS A PERSON WHO HAS BEEN CASTING CHARTS JUST FOR FUN SINCE 1965, I THINK I CAN ADDRESS THE GRAVITY OF THIS SITUATION WITH SOME KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT.

WHAT INFORMATION DO YOU NEED TO CAST A HOROSCOPE?

YOU NEED A PERSON'S COMPLETE NAME.

YOU NEED A PERSON'S DATE AND PLACE OF BIRTH.

IF THE ASTROLOGER IS LEGIT, YOU WILL NEED A TIME OF BIRTH WHICH YOU CONVERT INTO SIDDREAL TIME ( SPELLING IS WRONG BUT ASTROLOGERS WILL KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT).

EVEN IF THE ASTROLOGER IS NOT LEGIT OR EVEN AN ASTROLOGER AT ALL, THEY MIGHT ASK YOU SO ASKING YOU THE TIME OF YOUR BIRTH IS NO GUARANTEE EITHER.

ON THE INTERNET THERE ARE NO GUARANTEES SO YOU SHOULD NEVER AND I DO MEAN NEVER PUT ANY OF THIS VERY IMPORTANT PERSONAL IDENTIFICATION ON THE INTERNET.

AND THEY ARE GOING TO WANT YOUR HOME ADDRESS -- OR MAILING ADDRESS -- SO THEY CAN ALLEGEDLY SEND YOU YOUR NATAL HOROSCOPE CHART.

AND THEY ARE GOING TO WANT YOUR HOME PHONE NUMBER SO IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR NEED A CLARIFICATION, THEY CAN CALL YOU.

YEAH, RIGHT.

YOU THINK THAT ASTROLOGERS HAVE A CONFIDENTIALITY AGREEMENT THAT THEY WILL NOT USE YOUR INFORMATION FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN TO CAST YOUR HOROSCOPE.

WELL, THAT IS ONLY IF THEY ARE CERTIFIED BY THE AMERICAN FEDERATION OF ASTROLOGERS AND BACK IN THE 1980S THEY WERE VERY STRICT ON THIS AND DIDN'T PUT UP WITH ANY TOMFOOLERY. BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE THE FULL INTERNET THEN EITHER.

SO NOW YOU HAVE COMMITTED TO GIVING THEM YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION -- ALL OF IT, UNLESS YOU HAVE FIGURED THIS OUT FOR THE IDENTITY THEFT SCAM THAT IT IS AND BACKED OUT OR DELETED THIS BULLSTUFF!

IT GETS BETTER.

THEY HAVE ALL OF THIS AND THEY TELL YOU THAT IT IS CONVENIENT TO GET THIS SHIPPED TO YOU BY PAYING POSTAGE AND THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN PAY WILL BE BY CREDIT CARD OR PAYPAL OPTIONS.

NOW THEY HAVE ALL OF YOUR PERSONAL IDENTIFICATION INFORMATION --AND YOUR FINANCIAL INFORMATION.

GUESS WHAT THEY CAN DO WITH THAT INFORMATION?
THEY CAN OPEN CREDIT CARDS IN YOUR NAME AND HAVE MAIL FORWARDED FROM YOUR ADDRESS TO ANY OTHER ADDRESS OF THEIR CHOICE..

THEY CAN FIND OUT WHERE YOU LIVE AND SEE IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING WORTH STEALING.

THEY CAN CHARGE THINGS TO YOUR PHONE NUMBER....

AND THOSE ARE JUST A FEW OF THE MANY POSSIBILITIES FOR A REALLY GOOD CROOK LIKE THEY HAVE THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.

NEVER PUT YOUR PERSONAL OR FINANCIAL INFORMATION ON THE INTERNET. EVER.

I am not Frater Dantalion, but even if I was the fact remains Calastrology is a scam. Trae Dorn repeatedly denies ownership of 100 scams which are exposed at http://www.love-spell.com/lovespellsscammers.html and elsewhere. Someone owns those scams and Calastrology is listed there. I was personally scammed my Calastrology and searched the net to see what people were saying - they are saying a lot, it's frightening. Webmasters say it has doorway pages to cheat search engines whatever that means, not just people. I should have done these searches first, it's not the money I lost but the emotional cost of waiting for non existent spells to work.

Why does Trae Dorn rant and rave so much about spell casters? Attack is the best form of defense, that is why. It is all lies about fast spells.com, you made up lies, there was never anyone called the names your website says.

If you have a girlfriend, that shows how wicked you are to be looking for a Russian Bride behind her back, I bet you own lots of Russian Bride websites too?

Calastrology is run from California that is true, but you don't have to live there to own it.

Calastrology needs closing down, it's not just me that has been ripped off it is on other websites, and Rip Off report has other reports I should have read.

Blaming Frater Dantalion or anyone, doesn't alter the fact Calastrology doesn't work, and I have found out they have 100 other websites, collated over a 10 year period. Something needs doing.

There is no smoke without fire and people who use Calastrology will find it is a scam like I did. Lots of people have posted on rip Off report about Calastrology, some got refunds some like me didn't. There spells don't work, I would mind who owned the company if they did.

Calastrology, being a spellcaster website, just like fastspells and frater dantalion's site, is a scam, to be sure. They are all scams. I don't discriminate here. Spellcasting websites and psychic websites are almost if not entirely without exception, scams. As posted elsewhere, Trae did the actual work with detailed analysis of the situation and showed his work. His work was featured in an independant article on the subject and supported by his webhost who received panicked and threatening calls from the owner (who had no legal leg to stand on) shortly before the site shut down and all of the personal pages (myspace, facebook, etc) owned by the owners of fastspells were made private. But Trae, knowing those sorts of tactics, took screenshots and kept emails. And while those things certainly can be doctored, those who visited fastspells while it was still up, certainly can attest to their accuracy.

And again, frater, you once more easily link this persona to others by bringing up the latest and greatest of your tactics mixed with some of your old tactics and wrapped in your distinctive and obvious writing style. A writing style which, even in the face of it's use to link to your other psudonyms on RoR, you inexplicably fail to alter. Some people write in such a way that they can't be identified from the masses. You and I are not of that type. And therefore our writing is easily spottable from other writing styles. It makes it almost painfully easy to convincingly link aliases. And the fact that you have frequently used multiple aliases and I have used only this name further discredits your accusations as you are clearly trying to cover your track with 'idependant' support.

The website you refer to, by the way, makes no reference to Trae. And while I doubt their claims that all of those sites are owned by the same person, since that's not particularly plausable, I don't doubt that they are all scams. Shut them all down FD, Carotline, Dave, Javier, etc. Go ahead. The only person who would suffer from that would be the owners of such scams, a group you count yourself among. Shut them all down and see if Trae and Meep disappear from the net due to legal action. We won't because we aren't connected.

At this point I actually will take your suggestion and stop posting on RoR. I hope you actually do stop posting.

So RoR adds the update feature so you can alter what you've said in the past.  Now here's the clever bit: if you update, it makes it look like you got in the last word without showing up as the most recent post in search summaries.  Anyway:

"Trae Dorn repeatedly denies ownership of 100 scams which are exposed at http://www.love-spell.com/lovespellsscammers.html and elsewhere. Someone owns those scams and Calastrology is listed there."

Come now, denial as evidence of guilt went out with the inquisition.  As I've said before, even a cursory glance at the spells on the list is enough to see quite clearly that they aren't all connected, though surely some of them are.  The vast majority of these sites are separate entities or very small groupings of sites.  Wouldn't it be nice and convenient if all of the scams on the internet were run by one person?  Unfortunately reality doesn't pay much mind to convenience and, like the mythical many-headed hydra, killing one scam site doesn't do a thing to deter the rest

Even so, you do nothing to provide proof of your assertion that Trae is involved other than the 'he says he doesn't like spell scams as a clever ruse for his own scams' line, which isn't so much proof as witch-hunt style heresay.  Now if you can put Trae's name on an account for one of these places, or maybe even get it in the right geographical area, that might be something.  But none of these sites are run by Trae so that evidence will never present itself.

fastspells.com, on the other hand was very handily and very accurately linked to the very people running them.  Their names were on the email accounts, the website registrations, and the addresses listed in Trae's debunking.  The people in question threatened Trae's webhost who stuck their neck out and went to bat for him.  The emails are real, the site registrations were real, and the people were real.  And unlike Dantalion's mythical list, the names recurred over and over again in the registrations for other sites and even unrelated things like facebook pages and myspace accounts.  All of those accounts quickly shuttered after Trae's expose and the website went away.  He did his due dilligence and his case was pretty airtight, as opposed to the lame accusations bandied about against him here.

The Russian bride thing is just comical.  It is bunk on several levels.  It doesn't prove that any of those sites use russian bride pics.  It doesn't prove that he's single (which he's not).  It doesn't prove that those sites are connected, and it doesn't prove he had anything to do with even one of them.  Once again it's a tempest in a teacup rant with no actual connection to reality.

Come back when you can actually prove something.

Meep

Hi,

I'm the IT Manager for Calastrology.com. 

The company has been in business since 1970, and I have worked for them since 2000, when we started selling online.

The original complaint here is nonsensical.  Amita Dragonspell has nothing to do with our company, and we have no connection whatsoever to the other websites listed in the original complaint.

I can assure you that the California Astrology Association does indeed honor our unconditional one-year guarantee.  I know of no other spell casting or psychic company that offers a guarantee such as this.

If you are unsatisfied with anything you purchase from us, you have up to a full year to return it for a refund.  (You can return it at any time; you do not need to wait a year.).

It's that simple.

To request a refund, go to http://www.calastrology.com/contact.html

On another note, we receive testimonials on a regular and frequent basis from satisfied clients; I can personally that our testimonials are real.  (We receive so many, actually, that I recently set up a new website to showcase them all.  You may wish to visit http://www.calastrologyworks.com to make up your own mind).

I hope this helps alleviate any concerns about Calastrology.com.

Best Regards,
Andrew

This comment is being left in regards to Calastology being called a scam.  I am a customer of there's and I have ordered a few spells my self.  While one of them had not worked and when I contacted them I was REFUNDED IMMEDIATELY no questions asked the other I ordered in my mind with out a doubt did.  Now there are a lot of places on the internet that are scams i will not deny that.  But Calastrology is for sure NOT a scam and I will continue to use there services. 

I have purchased several spells from calastrology and I can tell you they absolutely honor their money back guarantee. I have found it necessary to cancel spells on a few occasions and have received my money back promptly and very courteously.