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  • Submitted: Fri, June 17, 2011
  • Updated: Wed, October 17, 2012

  • Reported By: The Governor — Lake Park Florida USA
Lloyds Asset Management
515 North Flagler Drive Suite 305 West Palm Beach, Florida United States of America

Lloyds Asset Management Jim Burbage, Shawn Stropp, Frank Gaudino lloyds asset management high pressure sales, script reading telemarketers West Palm Beach, Florida

*Consumer Comment: Allegations are all Correct and Accurate

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Their website

*Author of original report: Phone Number Disconnected

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Unscrupulous company indeed

*Consumer Comment: Frank Gaudino James Burbage Previous Allegations

*Consumer Comment: FRANK GAUDINO

*Author of original report: Lloyds Asset Lending, LLC. and Lloyds Asset Management, LLC.

*Author of original report: lloyds asset management script

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Jim Burbage Shawn Stropp Frank Gaudino run a ponzi scheme called LLoyds Asset Management,
they are deceptive steroid junkies.  If u invest your money with this company you will be ripped off.

The script they read starts off with a lie stating that the prospect requested information.  You should hang up immediately.














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#1 Consumer Comment

Allegations are all Correct and Accurate

AUTHOR: MarniSlutBurbage - (United States of America)

Here are some more resources for you to verify on your own.   Mr. James Burbage is a swinger and openly holds swing parties at his house with wife swapping, gulping, fisting and open sodomy.  His wife Marni has engaged in prostitution several times and been convicted of this crime. 

Facts all verifiable with public records searching-

Malicious Destruction
Stalking
4th Deg burglary
Resisting Arrest
Battery
Molesting on School Premises
Trespassing
Disorderly Conduct
Was incarcerated in June
1-24-2008 arrested for Battery
Disorderly Intoxication
Possession of MJ May 29 2011

Filings- http://www.nfa.futures.org/basicnet/CaseDocument.aspx?seqnum=1559
http://www.nfa.futures.org/basicnet/CaseDocument.aspx?seqnum=1671

http://www.nfa.futures.org/basicnet/CaseDocument.aspx?seqnum=1610

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/business/metals-investors-beware-all-that-glitters-isnt-gol/nLwX6/
http://www.forkeylaw.com/Matters-Currently-Being-Handled-By-Russell-L-Forkey-PA/Lloyds-Asset-Lending-LLC-and-Lloyds-Asset-Management-LLC.shtml

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#2 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Their website

AUTHOR: Rich - (United States of America)

Their website: lloydsmetals.com shows as suspended.
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Phone Number Disconnected

AUTHOR: Consumer - (USA)

The toll free number is disconnected.  Rings twice and states the number is not in service. "We offer investment security, flexibility, advanced support, and complete customer satisfaction." 
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Unscrupulous company indeed

AUTHOR: Rich - (United States of America)

I worked for this company as a telemarketer and I have witnessed every single accusation brought up against this company. Part of their procedure was to get a picture of the new client along with the wiring information to get their money. The CEO James Burbage passed around a picture of the new client and wrote a demeaning comment next to his picture. The comment he wrote called the client "the biggest sucker and idiot in the world." They made it very obvious to everyone that their intention isn't to help the new clients but to screw them out of their finances.

There are many legitimate precious metals companies out there and this is obviously not one of them. This is indeed a scam and ponsie scheme.
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Frank Gaudino James Burbage Previous Allegations

AUTHOR: CFTC ATTORNEY GENERALS - (United States of America)

NATIONAL FUTURES ASSOCIATION APR l0 2008 COMPLAINT ALLEGATIONS
James R. Burbage and Frank Gaudino both were employed by Meredian Commodity Corporation. 
 Gaudino had previously  been employed  by a firm that was about to be put on NFA's list of
Disciplined Firms 
- an event which  could have triggered  an obligation by MCC to
undertake  the enhanced  supervisory  requirements  because  it already  employed
several otherAPs who had worked for Disciplined  Firms.  

State of Missouri
Office of Secretary of State
CONSENT ORDER AS TO RESPONDENT FRANK GAUDINO SUMMARY OF ENFORCEMENT SECTION'S ALLEGATIONS The Enforcement Section of the Missouri Securities Division ("Enforcement Section") has alleged that Frank Gaudino, ("Gaudino") committed acts in violation of Section 409.803.1, RSMo. (2000) and Section 409.810, RSMo. (2000).Respondent Gaudino and the Enforcement Section desire to settle the allegations and matters raised by the Enforcement Section relating to the Respondent Gaudino's alleged conduct.
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FRANK GAUDINO

AUTHOR: CFTC ATTORNEY GENERALS - (United States of America)

fraudster
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#7 Author of original report

Lloyds Asset Lending, LLC. and Lloyds Asset Management, LLC.

AUTHOR: The Governor - (USA)

Recently, an out of state resident filed alaw suit, in the Circuit Court of Palm Beach County, Florida, against the Lloyds Asset Management, LLC., Lloyds Asset Lending, LLC., James Burbage, Marni Burbage, Sean Stropp, Sylvia Williams, David Love, Tim Cavender and Frank Gaudino, in which it was generally alleged that the defendants, some of who were previously licensed by the NFA, set up a high pressure precious metals firm that "cold" called individuals and extolled the substantial profits to be made by purchasing precious metals, on margin, while downplaying the risk associated therewith.It is further alleged that the Plaintiffs do not believe that the firms ever actually took possession of the metals as they represented that they did.

The Initial Opening to the Script:Hello, _____, (hey) it's ____, Senior Account Executive with _______,  Glad I got you!  The reason for the call is sometime back you responded to one of our programs for information about the precious metals market.  (Whether you did or not)  I wanted to touch base with you and personally introduce myself, more importantly get some fresh, free information out to you first thing in the morning!  Now ____, have you ever invested in the precious metals market before?I'm sure that you realize that the secret to making money on any investment is proper timing (Right Place, Right Time), do you follow?  Absolutely, that's especially true in the metals market.  So DO THIS -- grab a pen and paper, jot down my name and company contact info.  I'm also going to give you some facts and figures to correlate with the package being sent to you.  Let me know when you have that.Alternative Opening Pitch:Where did I catch you -- at home or at work?  What do you do for work?  How long have you been doing that?  I bet you've seen a lot of changes, right?  Absolutely.  Now here is my contact information.Back to the Script:Now ____, if I could show you an opportunity in the physical silver market, an opportunity that YOU JUST COULD NOT SAY NO TO, are you in a financial position to take advantage of my firm's initial recommendation of $50,000, if you wanted to do so?Alternative Methods to Qualify The Money: Where is that money working for you?Stocks, Mutual Funds, etc.Is that money liquid to you right now?Where else could you pull funds from to invest?Percentage wise, what does this initial investment represent of your total liquid capital?Overcoming Objections:No: --- No big deal -- understand, it takes money to make money, right?  If you knew in your heart that $50,000 could quite literally break $100,000 in the next three months, I'd have to believe that you could invest $50,000, am I right?  I'm just asking.No -- No problem.  If you saw something that you absolutely loved and you though that you would be successful, what is the maximum that you could put behind a great idea?  Great.The Reasons to Invest:1.  The U.S. dollar is poised for a new all time low!  Now with almost 3 trillion new U.S. dollars being printed, it is dramatically devaluing the existing dollars in circulation.  History proves that when the U.S. dollar weakens, silver does what? (Higher!) Absolutely!2.  Supply and Demand Imbalance.  With industrial and investment demand at one of the highest levels in history were in the midst of a global slowdown -- a high lack of supply is shown coming out of the ground!  Lack of Supply + Higher Demand = What??  (Higher Prices!) Exactly!3.  Geopolitical tensions.  This is the wild-card!  We have ongoing tensions in the middle-east, threats of nuclear capability by Iran and North Korea, and the possibility of terrorist attacks in you home country!  These tensions have caused investors to look for safe havens to invest in and for thousands of years the safe haven has been precious metals.  What do you think will happen to the price if these tensions escalate?  (Skyrocket!) Absolutely!Overcoming Objections:Are you following me on all this? Does this make sense to you? ExcellentBack to the Script:Now all of this is factored into the current price.  It's the continuum and the magnitude of the situation that we are looking to take advantage of.Now I've explained why we are entering into this market, but it's more important that I explain exactly who we are because, as an investor, it's important to know exactly who you are dealing with, right?The firm I represent is ________.  We specialize in finding fundamental and technical opportunities in the precious metals markets.  In this case we are dealing with bars and bullion.  We are a primary broker/dealer trading with various international traders and suppliers.  Safety and reliability are assured as you assets are insured in one of our secured bullion depositories.  Are you with me? (Great).My secretary is going to inundate you with research materials, news articles, and some risk disclosure so that you fully understand the market that we are going into.  Do you follow me?  (Fantastic!)Are you still holding on to that pen? (Great).  You need to jot down a couple quick figures to correlate with the package I am sending to you.  I want you to make a decision based on facts and not emotion.  Does that make sense?  (Great) One of the great advantages of trading with ____ precious metals program is the ability to utilize leverage.  Are you currently utilizing leverage in the stock market, or do you typically buy and hold on a one-to-one basis?  Follow me closely on this -- this is the meat and potatoes!$50,000 / 18.00 per ounce (Current Price of Silver) = 2700 oz (Round Down 100's)2700 x 3 times leverage = 8,100 oz Silver8,100 oz Silver x 18.00 = $145,800 TMVThat's the beauty of it!  We make our money on what we control, and not what we invest!  Do you follow me?  Great!$145,800 TMV - $50,000 Down = $95,800Market moves up to a recent high of $22.l00 per ozSell 8,100 oz @ 22.00 per oz = $178.200 Gross Return on Investment (Circle that!)$178,200 - $95,800 Credit Due - $50,000 - $32,400 Net Return on Investment (Circle that!).Do you see how I got that number?Does that make sense?Is that the type of money you are looking to make? (Must get a solid Yes before moving forward)Lets say in the next 6 months I show you half of that -- would you fire me as your broker? I've still got to believe that's the type of money you are looking to make -- Am I right? (Great).Now, working with ___ gives you the flexibility of utilizing all of the latest computerized trading strategies.  We have an office full of 'teaches' that analyze data 24 hours a day.  You want a firm not married to a market -- if we find additional opportunities in other markets we want to remain flexible so you, as our client, can capitalize on those situations.Now, the commission is only __% (amount varies substantially with firms).  Based on the leverage we can overcome that with a fractional move in the market.  We will provide all the research for you.  We will explain when to buy, when to sell, when to cut losses and, more importantly, when to take profits.  That's what you're looking for in a broker, correct? (No Discussion of Margin Interest to be Charged, How the Price of the Metal is Determined or How Much of a Mark-up will be Charged on the Metal by the Firm when it is Sold to the Client)Now ______, of course I can't guarantee you profits.  But we do put our reputation and trading experience to work for you.  So ______, because investments like this are not for everyone, can you truly afford an investment of $50,000 without changing you lifestyle?  (Wait for answer; re-qualify if necessary)  Do you have any questions right now about our investment program? (Push for fax close if client sounds ready)The Final Push:What address do you want it sent to?Once you receive the package, how long will it take you to made a decision?My firm requires me to provide full disclosure to all considering parties.  Will anyone else be involved in the decision making process:  (Wait for answer -- cover wife objection HERE!)My firm requires 2 phone numbers to get this package out to you.  What is another phone number you can be reached at? (They will hound you to death)When you receive the material, I want your word that you will give it your immediate and undivided attention.  Will you do that? (If Yes)  That's good enough for me.  If No, why not?Now, when I call you to discuss the information, do I have your word -- as a -- man that:  There will be no (your name) who?, no "the Loch Ness monster ate my package", no "Bigfoot ran off with my money", no "Lets play phone hide and go seek"? (Wait for answer).  So I have your word then as a man ______.  Ok.  How good is your word? After you review the program materials and I've answered all of your questions to you satisfaction and you truly understand how the program works, can you see yourself opening an account with my firm so that we can start doing business together?  (Wait for Yes, if no requalify)  So what you are saying is, if everything is on target and outlined like we said I am talking to my next client?  (Fantastic!)The arrogance of the caller: NEVER EVER THANK THE CLIENT.  Look for them to be thanking you.  Maybe say "I appreciate your vote of confidence.", or "Congratulations you have just taken the first step to making some real money." 
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lloyds asset management script

AUTHOR: The Governor - (USA)

Recently, an out of state resident filed a law suit, in the Circuit Court of Palm Beach County, Florida, against the Lloyds Asset Management, LLC., Lloyds Asset Lending, LLC., James Burbage, Marni Burbage, Sean Stropp, Sylvia Williams, David Love, Tim Cavender and Frank Gaudino, in which it was generally alleged that the defendants, some of who were previously licensed by the NFA, set up a high pressure precious metals firm that "cold" called individuals and extolled the substantial profits to be made by purchasing precious metals, on margin, while downplaying the risk associated therewith.It is further alleged that the Plaintiffs do not believe that the firms ever actually took possession of the metals as they represented that they did.

The Initial Opening to the Script:Hello, _____, (hey) it's ____, Senior Account Executive with _______,  Glad I got you!  The reason for the call is sometime back you responded to one of our programs for information about the precious metals market.  (Whether you did or not)  I wanted to touch base with you and personally introduce myself, more importantly get some fresh, free information out to you first thing in the morning!  Now ____, have you ever invested in the precious metals market before?I'm sure that you realize that the secret to making money on any investment is proper timing (Right Place, Right Time), do you follow?  Absolutely, that's especially true in the metals market.  So DO THIS -- grab a pen and paper, jot down my name and company contact info.  I'm also going to give you some facts and figures to correlate with the package being sent to you.  Let me know when you have that.Alternative Opening Pitch:Where did I catch you -- at home or at work?  What do you do for work?  How long have you been doing that?  I bet you've seen a lot of changes, right?  Absolutely.  Now here is my contact information.Back to the Script:Now ____, if I could show you an opportunity in the physical silver market, an opportunity that YOU JUST COULD NOT SAY NO TO, are you in a financial position to take advantage of my firm's initial recommendation of $50,000, if you wanted to do so?Alternative Methods to Qualify The Money: Where is that money working for you?Stocks, Mutual Funds, etc.Is that money liquid to you right now?Where else could you pull funds from to invest?Percentage wise, what does this initial investment represent of your total liquid capital?Overcoming Objections:No: --- No big deal -- understand, it takes money to make money, right?  If you knew in your heart that $50,000 could quite literally break $100,000 in the next three months, I'd have to believe that you could invest $50,000, am I right?  I'm just asking.No -- No problem.  If you saw something that you absolutely loved and you though that you would be successful, what is the maximum that you could put behind a great idea?  Great.The Reasons to Invest:1.  The U.S. dollar is poised for a new all time low!  Now with almost 3 trillion new U.S. dollars being printed, it is dramatically devaluing the existing dollars in circulation.  History proves that when the U.S. dollar weakens, silver does what? (Higher!) Absolutely!2.  Supply and Demand Imbalance.  With industrial and investment demand at one of the highest levels in history were in the midst of a global slowdown -- a high lack of supply is shown coming out of the ground!  Lack of Supply + Higher Demand = What??  (Higher Prices!) Exactly!3.  Geopolitical tensions.  This is the wild-card!  We have ongoing tensions in the middle-east, threats of nuclear capability by Iran and North Korea, and the possibility of terrorist attacks in you home country!  These tensions have caused investors to look for safe havens to invest in and for thousands of years the safe haven has been precious metals.  What do you think will happen to the price if these tensions escalate?  (Skyrocket!) Absolutely!Overcoming Objections:Are you following me on all this? Does this make sense to you? ExcellentBack to the Script:Now all of this is factored into the current price.  It's the continuum and the magnitude of the situation that we are looking to take advantage of.Now I've explained why we are entering into this market, but it's more important that I explain exactly who we are because, as an investor, it's important to know exactly who you are dealing with, right?The firm I represent is ________.  We specialize in finding fundamental and technical opportunities in the precious metals markets.  In this case we are dealing with bars and bullion.  We are a primary broker/dealer trading with various international traders and suppliers.  Safety and reliability are assured as you assets are insured in one of our secured bullion depositories.  Are you with me? (Great).My secretary is going to inundate you with research materials, news articles, and some risk disclosure so that you fully understand the market that we are going into.  Do you follow me?  (Fantastic!)Are you still holding on to that pen? (Great).  You need to jot down a couple quick figures to correlate with the package I am sending to you.  I want you to make a decision based on facts and not emotion.  Does that make sense?  (Great) One of the great advantages of trading with ____ precious metals program is the ability to utilize leverage.  Are you currently utilizing leverage in the stock market, or do you typically buy and hold on a one-to-one basis?  Follow me closely on this -- this is the meat and potatoes!$50,000 / 18.00 per ounce (Current Price of Silver) = 2700 oz (Round Down 100's)2700 x 3 times leverage = 8,100 oz Silver8,100 oz Silver x 18.00 = $145,800 TMVThat's the beauty of it!  We make our money on what we control, and not what we invest!  Do you follow me?  Great!$145,800 TMV - $50,000 Down = $95,800Market moves up to a recent high of $22.l00 per ozSell 8,100 oz @ 22.00 per oz = $178.200 Gross Return on Investment (Circle that!)$178,200 - $95,800 Credit Due - $50,000 - $32,400 Net Return on Investment (Circle that!).Do you see how I got that number?Does that make sense?Is that the type of money you are looking to make? (Must get a solid Yes before moving forward)Lets say in the next 6 months I show you half of that -- would you fire me as your broker? I've still got to believe that's the type of money you are looking to make -- Am I right? (Great).Now, working with ___ gives you the flexibility of utilizing all of the latest computerized trading strategies.  We have an office full of 'teaches' that analyze data 24 hours a day.  You want a firm not married to a market -- if we find additional opportunities in other markets we want to remain flexible so you, as our client, can capitalize on those situations.Now, the commission is only __% (amount varies substantially with firms).  Based on the leverage we can overcome that with a fractional move in the market.  We will provide all the research for you.  We will explain when to buy, when to sell, when to cut losses and, more importantly, when to take profits.  That's what you're looking for in a broker, correct? (No Discussion of Margin Interest to be Charged, How the Price of the Metal is Determined or How Much of a Mark-up will be Charged on the Metal by the Firm when it is Sold to the Client)Now ______, of course I can't guarantee you profits.  But we do put our reputation and trading experience to work for you.  So ______, because investments like this are not for everyone, can you truly afford an investment of $50,000 without changing you lifestyle?  (Wait for answer; re-qualify if necessary)  Do you have any questions right now about our investment program? (Push for fax close if client sounds ready)The Final Push:What address do you want it sent to?Once you receive the package, how long will it take you to made a decision?My firm requires me to provide full disclosure to all considering parties.  Will anyone else be involved in the decision making process:  (Wait for answer -- cover wife objection HERE!)My firm requires 2 phone numbers to get this package out to you.  What is another phone number you can be reached at? (They will hound you to death)When you receive the material, I want your word that you will give it your immediate and undivided attention.  Will you do that? (If Yes)  That's good enough for me.  If No, why not?Now, when I call you to discuss the information, do I have your word -- as a -- man that:  There will be no (your name) who?, no "the Loch Ness monster ate my package", no "Bigfoot ran off with my money", no "Lets play phone hide and go seek"? (Wait for answer).  So I have your word then as a man ______.  Ok.  How good is your word? After you review the program materials and I've answered all of your questions to you satisfaction and you truly understand how the program works, can you see yourself opening an account with my firm so that we can start doing business together?  (Wait for Yes, if no requalify)  So what you are saying is, if everything is on target and outlined like we said I am talking to my next client?  (Fantastic!)The arrogance of the caller: NEVER EVER THANK THE CLIENT.  Look for them to be thanking you.  Maybe say "I appreciate your vote of confidence.", or "Congratulations you have just taken the first step to making some real money." 
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