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  • 5761 La Palma Avenue, #101 Seattle, Washington U.S.A.

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On Wednesday, November 27th, I was ripped off by a guy selling Digital Pro Audio Speakers, so obviously these guys are moving thru the I-5 corridor. This arse was A Phillipino or Hispanic guy with braces, 6'2"+, muscular build, black hair, dark complection. He was driving a silver family-style van with a Washington state Plate of 206 NDI. This event occurred about three in the afternoon.

He was very slick and suckered me for a large amount of money. Lets just say alot, and I got four speakers and leave it at that. d**n I feel stupid. Makes me wanna get the stick out, because I am not a person who can afford to throw money away! I bet the van was a rental, so I am gonna report this right now! adios

Keith
Magness, Washington

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#3 Consumer Comment

You have to watch who you put your trust in

AUTHOR: Paul - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, September 04, 2004

The "big speaker con" seems to be all over the country. Most of the victims feel stupid after they discover they have been taken. My advice is don't beat yourself up over it. You see, you simply didn't know how to spot a con artist at work. Most people don't. We all place our trust in our fellow citizens. You have to. You can't go in a store and open everything and check it out thoroughly before you buy. You have to rely on trust in many instances.

Hell, in the emergency room, you may be injured and unconscious. You have no choice but to trust the people treating you. But, you also need to learn from situations like this. That's what Jeff, from above, needs to understand. He has already learned how to spot a con. Perhaps he has learned the hard way. The victim in this case had not learned this lesson before buying the speakers. Everyone is the sum total of what they have seen and what they have done. And, there is a first time for everything. Also, remember that the people selling these items have been coached by professional con men. The pros are very good at spotting and exploiting human weaknesses. When you do something every day of your life, you tend to get pretty good at it.

The best way to beat these and other types of cons is to remember one simple rule. That is simply: opportunity never comes knocking. That means that the real bargains never come to you. You always have to look hard to find them. Anything that comes to you is no bargain. For instance, why would a stock salesman call you out of the blue to show you how to get rich? He wouldn't. If he had a truly great opportunity, he'd keep it all to himself. He'd suck every dime out of the situation that he could. Maybe he'd show a few friends.

But, he d**n sure wouldn't tell strangers. You need to understand one simple rule: a good deal never needs to be sold. A good deal always sells itself. Word of mouth is enough. If people were really selling $1200 speakers for $300, the world would beat a path to their door. So, anytime you have a salesman trying hard to sell you something, you already know it's no great bargain. Granted, these speaker people don't represent themselves as salesmen.

They claim to be average Joes who came into something for nothing. So, ask yourself, why are they trying to share it with you? If I really got free speakers from my company, I'd run them home and keep them for myself. From a financial standpoint, the best thing you can possibly do is to reject all deals. The proper way to do that is to say that you have no money. It's wrong to say that you aren't interested. The salesman will just keep trying harder to convince you to buy. But, when you say that you have no money, he has nothing to gain. Even if you loved the speakers and wanted to buy, all you have is $2 in change.

Once a con artist sees that you have no money, they change 180 degrees. No more nice act. You are just a piece of s**t who is in the way. So there's your answer. If someone comes up and offers you a brand new car for $1000, what do you say? Sorry pal, payday is 10 days away. A ton of gold for $50? Nope, welfare check didn't show up yet. Big diamond for $10? Sorry, I spent my last dollars on gas.

Your answer is always the same. Nope, I got no money. I'm on welfare. Not a penny to my name. Watch the con artists burn rubber as they drive away. It's the same with all deals. A guy comes up to you in the street and claims he found a wallet full of money. Tell him thanks, but I can't help you. A pretty girl starts flirting and acting like she is interested. She probably wants something. Let her know right away that you are dead broke. Then, see if she is still interested. Yes, you might actually miss that once in a lifetime deal where someone really has brand new TVs for $50 each. But, it's far more likely that you will never lose your hard earned money. So, pass the salesmen by. Especially if they come up to you in the street. To those that got taken, I say look at this as a learning experience. Many people have lost far more to fast talking con men. You got an important lesson, and you got it fairly cheap. Live and learn!

Oh, one final thought. Don't wait for the police to arrest these people. They know the con is going on, and they allow it to continue. Much like Jeff, they look at the victim as being greedy and gullible. They get what they deserve. What they don't understand is that every one of those police officers could get taken by a pro con artist in a similar fashion. They are just as vulnerable. But they simply don't care about protecting the public.

The speaker salesmen are victims too. The main person running this con offers them a good-paying "job". He sits back in the warehouse while fools go out and hustle off $50 speakers for $200. He makes four times his money, while the salesmen face the risk of death or severe injury.

How long can they continue before they run into somebody with a gun or a knife, or a baseball bat? Tell me, is the $3000 they made hustling speakers worth it when they end up badly wounded and choking on their own blood from a knife wound in the lung or abdomen? That's what eventually happens to these people. Sooner or later, they run into an armed robber who convinces them to "come back to my apartment to get the money for the speakers." There, the two guys are beaten and robbed for everything they have.

Maybe killed and dumped in a trash can like garbage. Their great "job" ends with them bleeding out while lying on the filthy ground behind a dump apartment complex. After all, they claim to have $5000 worth of speakers and a nice new van. People will kill you for 1/10 of that. So, they certainly don't end up getting the best of that deal.

Trust me, the speaker buyer ends up getting off easy compared to the salesmen. The whole thing is human behavior at it's worst. Thank god there are sites like this that let people see and learn without the process of being victimized. Thank you ripoffreport, for the help that you provide to the public. You're like the "comsumer reports" of the internet.

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#2 Consumer Comment

think a little bit.

AUTHOR: Jeff - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, August 13, 2004

If something seems to good to be true, it usually is! Why would you spend money on speakers for some schlep selling from a van? In my opinion, you got what you deserved...

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#1 UPDATE EX-employee responds

My Ex-Boyfriend Worked for Rip-Off Speaker Selling Company in NJ

AUTHOR: Helene - ()

POSTED: Saturday, November 30, 2002

I thought I would offer some inside information on Digital Pro Audio. A former boyfriend of mine worked for a brief time at a company very much like this in the state of NJ. They were based, at the time, out of a warehouse in Edison, NJ.

The major points of the company and scam are as follows:
Company employees are sent out daily, usually in teams of two, with van loads of 5 to 8 sets of speakers, this number varies upon the employee's
past record of "sales"..

Employees are instructed to begin their pricing at $600-$800 per set, with the minimum acceptable sales price of $200 per set. At $200 per set, the employee makes no money for themselves, which is why they are so persistent and insistent upon getting the prospective buyer(s) to believe that these speakers are really "hot" and that they would be foolish to let such "a great and once in a lifetime opportunity" pass them by!

The company's "home base" usually moved every 2-3 months or so, I presume to avoid negative attention or detection by the authorities.

These speakers are basically mass produced and are customized per each new company's request with stick on or weld on brand name plates. They are all the same low-end speakers; they are definitely NOT WORTH over $50 dollars each. I believe that the owners of these "company's" paid somewhere in the area of $30 for each speaker, or maybe that was per set, I remember asking the owner one day when I came to get the ex cause his car had broke down.

Anyway, the best advice I can offer to people who are approached by employees of these companies is to roll up your window and drive away fast!!! I think that it's terrible that these guys can run similar scams all across the USA and not be penalized for their bad business practices.

Good Karma to all!
Sincerely

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