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  • Report: #200042

Complaint Review: ABE Motorcycle Discount Warehouse

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  • Submitted: Sat, July 08, 2006
  • Updated: Sat, August 12, 2006

  • Reported By:San Antonio Texas
ABE Motorcycle Discount Warehouse
3011 East Commerce Street San Antonio, Texas U.S.A.

ABE Motorcycle Discount Warehouse; ABE Cycle Sales; ABE Discount Cycle Sales ripoff ReVictimized by shady motorcycle parts repair shop San Antonio Texas

*Author of original report: New owner wants to make things right

*Author of original report: Abe's alies' and other stuff I found out too late

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On 23 March 2006, I purchased two Avon tires from ABE Cycles that Abe indicated were new tires. The tires were not new and fell to severe rot shortly after purchase. Attempts to talk with Abe fortune had failed so I filed a report with the Better Business Bureau. Abe Fortune eventually replied to the report and appears to have attempted to deceive the BBB by claiming he did not even know me nor have any record of the transaction! Fortunatel I do have proof that he knows me and had sold me the faulty tires in question.



I had my tire replaced today (8 July)from a local repair shop. On this day, I was advised that I was the 3rd customer to come in that day who had problems with ABE Cycles. Ironically, one of the other customers had a problem with a tire he had purchased from Abe. The shop replaced the front tire and validated that the tire was too dry-rotted to have been a new tire when sold to me. They also indicated that this is an older style of tire which they said is no longer sold, and pointed out that the tire was stamped "Not Intended for Highway Use", which I was not aware of. Unfortunately, Abe had deceived me when I had purchased this unsafe tire. I have kept the tire as evidence. They also pointed out much slime inside the tire. Other customers in the shop advised me not to deal directly with Abe, due to what the other customers called his "mental instability" and the customers claimed that he had previously threatened other customers with a gun, when angry. They indicated he has a criminal record and is a convicted felon.Again, this is what the customers said, but they all said the same thing.

Following the customers' advice about my personal safety, I did not take the tire to Abe cycles, but safely called the shop on the phone. The person that answered said that he was the new owner and he indicated he was aware of other customers' concerns about Abe Fortune. The new owner said he valued my business and wanted to make things right. I summarized the situation to the new owner and he said he would speak with Abe and call me back. I can say I was quite happy to hear from someone from ABE Cycles who could speak with concern and professionalism. At the end of the day, I called Abe Cycles back to speak with the new owner, but Abe answered. When I asked to speak with the new owner, Abe lied and said, ?This is Tom, Abe is gone for the day. What do you want?. I asked again to speak with Tom and Abe said, ? This is Tom, you stupid mother fu*&@r. Abe said you are trying to gouge him for a tire you lying dog, mother fu*&@r?. I continued to be polite and professional and asked again to speak to the new owner.

Abe continued to spew obscenities at me, and still insisted he was Tom, the New owner. I said, I think this is Abe I am speaking with?. Abe said, ?Well, maybe it's yo moma, you godd@mn dog mother fu*&@r. F&*k your moma, mother fu*&@r, godd@mn mother fu*&@r? After a few more obscenities, he said, I no longer own the place so SUE ME!?, and hung up. After a couple minutes I called back and a different voice answered, who identified himself as the new owner. I informed him about the call two minutes prior, and he verified that it was not really him that said the awful things to me. Tom spoke quite appropriately and professionally and it was clear that Abe had attempted to impersonate him on the phone, and it was Abe who spewed the bizarre profanity at me. Tom did say that he was not able to provide any refund and I informed him that I would continue with my complaint.

The tires that I purchased from ABE Cycles were faulty when sold to me and my previous attempts to rectify the potentially life-threatening situation were met with very aggressive and bizarre behavior. Due to the seriousness nature of the situation and the serious safety concerns related to attempting to negotiate directly with Abe Fortune, I will continue with my complaint through the Better Business Bureau, Texas States Attorney General office, as well as local Military channels. I really wish this repair/parts store had worked with me on this issue as well as worked with the numerous other customers who have been threatened or run off. To others wo have delt with Abe Fortune and wish to rectify bad business complaints, I will advise you what other customers advised to me; do not deal with Abe directly. The phone is much safer as you can not get shot over the phone.

Steve
San Antonio, Texas
U.S.A.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 07/08/2006 06:28 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/ABE-Motorcycle-Discount-Warehouse/San-Antonio-Texas-78220/ABE-Motorcycle-Discount-Warehouse-ABE-Cycle-Sales-ABE-Discount-Cycle-Sales-ripoff-ReVict-200042. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 Author of original report

New owner wants to make things right

AUTHOR: Steve - (U.S.A.)

This shop was recently sold and the new owners appear to be working hard to establish a shop based on hard work and honest service. The new owner has contacted me and arranged to compensate me for the tire. He also assured me that he has gone through the tires at the shop and has thrown out tires that were questionable. This by itself was an important step to ensure the safety of others. I hope that the new owners can continue to rebuild ties with old customers who had negative experiences with the previous owner. Unfortunately, the previous owner, Abe, burned a lot of bridges with the locals but with Abe out of the picture and the new owners' intent to provide honest and reliable service, old customers can hopefully return and become satisfied customers. Thanks again Tom and good luck.
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#2 Author of original report

Abe's alies' and other stuff I found out too late

AUTHOR: Steve - (U.S.A.)

EDMUNSON,MIKE

EDMUNSON,MIKE JOSEPH

FORTUNE,ABRAHAM <---This appears to be the current name being used.

PAPASKAR,MIKE

PAPASKAR,MIKE J

PAPRISKAR,MICHAEL JOSEPH

PAPRSKAR,MICHAEL

PAPRSKAR,MICHAEL JOSEPH

PAPRSKAR,MICHAEL JOSEPH JR (Primary)

PAPRSKAR,MIKE

PAPSKAR,M J



Public records indicate the above named individual has an extensive criminal record in Texas, to include MURDER WITH MALICE (2 Counts), BREAK AND ENTER COIN OPER MACHINES, LARCENY x 2, NARCOTIC EQUIP-POSSESS, RECEIVING STOLEN PROPERTY, CONCEALING STOLEN PROPERTY, SMUGGLING -CUSTOMS ACT, POSSESSION OF HEROIN UNDER 28 GRAMS.

This is all public record. None of this I knew prior to my dealing with ABE Cycle Sales. If I knew then what I know now, I would have taken my business elsewhere and avoided all the drama which my reports summarize. I am simply summarizing this to let the public know to please be careful with whom you do business. As important as it is to confront businesses about dissatisfactory business practices, it is not worth risking your life over. Please do your research and be safe.



I know I personally will not do business at ABE Cycle Sales-3011 East Commerce, San Antonio, TX 78220
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