- Report: #1003520
Complaint Review: ACN
| ACN Concord, NC
Concord, North Carolina United States of America |
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ACN Andrew and Mike Maser; Michelle Dowling Unethical Practices Concord, North Carolina
*Author of original report: Thanks Diane G.!
*Consumer Comment: LINEAR INCOME MINDSET
*Author of original report: Thanks R. Michael Gonzalez for your unique and intriquing words...
*Consumer Comment: You Don't Get Rich Sitting On Your Couch!
*Author of original report: Michelle Dowling Has Done Everything She Can To Help Me
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They told me to begin making calls immediately to invite all my friends and family members to an info session even though I hadn't been to training and knew absolutely nothing about the company. The told me to stick to the script that said to ask people if they wanted to hear Patrick Maser tell them how he makes $250,000 a month. They said if anyone asks any questions that I was not supposed to answer them, instead I was supposed to 3 way in one of the Maser brothers. I called a few people and 2 people said they'd listen but they wouldn't give me a date when they would come. So I decided to go to the info meeting to hear the pitch again even though I couldn't get anyone to come with me. I was hoping to learn more about the company and I really wanted to hear Patrick Maser speak.
So I go to this meeting and much to my surprise Patrick Maser was no where in sight. The woman giving the pitch was Michelle Dowling, one of my uplines who had been with ACN for 3 months. That was the first sign that these guys were dishonest. If I had gotten people to come with me I would have been extremely embarrassed that I promised them they'd be hearing from someone who had been with the company for 10 years and had make millions of dollars, and instead what we got was a rookie who wasn't making any significant money with the company.
After meeting with uplines and making more phone calls (and getting more nos), I decided I would have absolutely no success selling something I wasn't passionate about. They want you to sell home services just on the basis that because you work for ACN your friends will sign up to do you a favor. They tell you that your sales pitch needs to be focused on getting a favor since we cannot promise them any savings nor can we claim superior service. I don't know about anyone else but I'd have a hard time selling something that had no value added except that you're doing me a favor.
I had a couple of Wall Street friends analyze the company and tell me their business model was great for upper management but that it is extremely hard for IBO's to make money since the commissions are so miniscule. There is very little money to be made on the residual side unless you have 10's of thousands of dollars of customers. Only 1% of ACN's IBO's make any significant earnings. The following article lays out the commission structure: www.crimes-of-persuasion.com/Crimes/Delivered/ACN/ACN%20MLM.htm I called Michelle Dowling to tell her I was canceling. She of course tried to talk me out of it and patched Andrew Maser in on our call. He pushed me to go to training that weekend and I told him that I had only one day left to cancel (to get my $499 back). He said not to worry about that - he would personally make sure that I was refunded the $499 if after training I still wanted out. Michelle then proceeded to tell me how important the Maser brothers were and that they have a direct phone line to ACN and ACN does whatever they ask for. She told me that Andrew would just make a call and I'd have my refund. They told me I had absolutely nothing to loose. I went to training that Sat. and all I heard about was how they want to help people at ACN. That they are a completely altruistic company. Then I heard a lot about how many cars, planes, houses the Maser brothers had.
I called Adrew Maser the following day and said that I still was not interested and wanted to cancel. He again tried to talk me out of it. I got off the phone with him and decided that I would text him the following day so he could stop wasting my time by giving the same sales pitch. I texted Andrew and Michelle on Monday and told them I'd like to get out and get my refund. Silence from both. So I began calling and texting. Neither would return my call or text. Then I sent a text to them and cc'd Patrick and Mike Maser. I got a text from Mike telling me to call him. I called him and for 15 minutes he yelled at me and bullied me. I kept trying to get a word in edgewise and to tell him I had my mind completely made up. His demeanor from the beginning was extremely aggressive and really unattractive. I kept telling him that all I needed was the help they promised on getting my refund. He said he did not own ACN and they could do nothing to get my refund. By the end of the conversation I was bawling because he was so awful to me.
Maybe there are uplines at ACN that really have other's interests at heart but you will not find that with these people. They have one thing on their minds and that is themselves. Mike Maser kept telling me that making a couple million dollars a year was nothing and he did not consider that successful. Not much humility there. I'm not sure why a guy claiming to make millions of dollars a year would spend that kind of time bullying me. It makes no sense. All I know is that I am extremely disappointed with myself for ever getting myself mixed up with this. I should have known better and I have wasted so much of my time and energy on this.
There is a reason why over the last 12 years 50% of ACN RVP's have the left the company. People - please be careful with this company.
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LINEAR INCOME MINDSET
AUTHOR: Quitters Never Win - ()
SUBMITTED: Monday, April 22, 2013
From the your rebuttal you sound as if you are happy to be a linear income worker, who could come to work one day and have a lay-off notice on your desk. With times becoming hard, you have exhausted all you money in the bank accounts and the 401K, is it time to see how much you get get for that designer couch in your living room now?
ACN is a scam but it exist in 23 countries. Can you IMAGINE the redtape to get 23 government approvals that its okay for you to do business in our country? Are you kidding me? And for every letter, word, sentence generated of negativity about ACN if you spent the time into working your business would you not be successful? All of the haters have not mentioned one word about personal growth and development.
Lot of the people who are negative about ACN have no development about the changes they need to make in themselves because they spend time pointing their fingers at others. They realize they actually would have to do something call -- CHANGE!! ACN is a 20 year old company February 2013 and has billions of customers and still growing---nearly a billion dollar industry. They have appeared countless times in business periodicals (Success magazine, Wall Street Journal, INC magazine, Success From Home magazine, etc). Yet, they are a scam.
Besides the co-founders making money there are IBOs making money as well if they are willing to work for it. These are people who have left corporate America employment. They realized that no mattter how much good money they make it would require a 20-40 year of investment of time on the job. They would spend away from their family and have NO freedom and lack of respect from their employer. Most importantly, no matter how much they work they would never have residual income that no one could ever take away.
Diane G
Malaga, NJ
#3 Author of original report
Thanks R. Michael Gonzalez for your unique and intriquing words...
AUTHOR: Ali - ()
SUBMITTED: Monday, March 25, 2013
#4 Consumer Comment
You Don't Get Rich Sitting On Your Couch!
AUTHOR: R. Michael Gonzalez - ()
SUBMITTED: Friday, March 15, 2013
I will not comment on any other IBO's as I was not there and I don't know the truth of those statements, But I can say of what I do know and the Maser's are some of the top reps in the business. So I can't imagine what you are saying is true.
The fact that you claim you joined because you were told you would make tons of money every month without having to work, well I've never heard anyone claim you'll get rich sitting on your couch, if they did I would not have even listened to them and you would not have either.
ACNIBO - Blog On The ACN Opportunity - is a personal view of the business through my eyes, I agree with a lot and disagree with just as much, but the company and the opportunity are very real.
I was fortunate enough to have been brought into the company by the right people and have definitely joined the right team "Team Momentum" the fastest growing team in the company. My team is out of Montreal, Canada and I am in Orlando, Florida, USA, my sponsor is a friend who lives in Canada. They told me to go to an opportunity meeting after I joined just to see a little more of the business and I was totally turned off. It was exactly as many have said, a lot of BS and hype and a bunch of sheep just agreeing with everything the speaker was saying. I completely did not like the way that it seemed they were just trying to get people to put up the $499 and let them figure out what to do next (Just my opinion of how I saw it). Quite to the contrary, My team members or I, would never tell someone to put up any money, until they knew exactly what they needed to expect and exactly what they needed to do to make it work (Just like the vast majority of IBOs do). That is exactly why I started my blog. I wanted to do all of the research I could and have a place where my prospects could go and see everything before they made a decision. (Dont blame the company for the actions of a few misleading reps).
Unfortunately, there are unreputable people in the business, but there are unreputable people in every business you just have to be able to make decisions for yourself based on your own knowledge and beliefs. If a used car salesman rips you off for an overpriced lemon, do you blame the car manufacturer, NO. Just find another dealership with more honest people.
If you are even considering joining ACN, please visit my blog, it will let you know all of the facts. If you have been approached by another IBO, I am not trying to steal you. Please if you do join, sign through them, just know what you are to expect before you do.
Please click and visit my blog, it answers all of the questions on the ACN opportunity
Just browse through the posts and find objective articles explaining everything.
Thanks again for the article and commentary.
R. Michael - ACN IBO #02637585
#5 Author of original report
Michelle Dowling Has Done Everything She Can To Help Me
AUTHOR: Ali - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, February 09, 2013

