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  • Submitted: Tue, May 05, 2009
  • Updated: Wed, August 22, 2012

  • Reported By:Bensalem Pennsylvania
ACN
1000 Progress Pl Concord, North Carolina U.S.A.

ACN Is Nothing But A Pyramid Scam!! Concord North Carolina

*General Comment: I am no Longer an ACN Rep

*Consumer Comment: Quitters Never Win!

*Consumer Comment: Same Old Haters!

*General Comment: ACN "endorsements" are just paid advertising

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: The 3% rule

*Consumer Suggestion: In response to save the slick talk and orginal poster

*Consumer Comment: Save The Slick Sales Talk

*Consumer Comment: Missing the boat

*Consumer Comment: Missing the boat

*Consumer Comment: Missing the boat

*Consumer Comment: Missing the boat

*Consumer Comment: ACN

*Consumer Comment: ACN~ contracts with other companies

*Consumer Comment: ACN~ contracts with other companies

*Consumer Comment: ACN~ contracts with other companies

*Consumer Comment: ACN~ contracts with other companies

*Consumer Comment: The Truth From An Unbiased Stance!!

*UPDATE Employee: Rip Off ~ ACN?

*UPDATE Employee: THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO DO

*Author of original report: To Just Curious

*Consumer Suggestion: Curious...

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All I can say, is stay away from this company!! A good friend convinced me to become apart of it, in November of 2008 and I made the mistake of listening. It cost me $499.00 to join, which should have been the first red flag for me, but I was so convinced by my friend, that I failed to see this. I had to get 5 points, to even qualify for any commisions, and the only way to make real money, was to get others involved in it, which I was not able to do, because I was getting rejections right and left. When I tried to do what they call a PBR, NO ONE SHOWED! When I had them create a web site for me (Which I thought was a part of the fee.) they kept charging m $29.99 twice a month, EVERY month for not only the web site, but also e-mail messages. I even bought their digital phone, which cost me more than $100.00 and they charge $40.00/month for the service!! My friend tried unsuccessfully to talk me out of leaving the company, but I am determined. Now Iam trying to get my $499 back. I filed a complaint with the BBB, but I don't know what will occur. Any help would be appreciated.

Wendy
Bensalem, Pennsylvania
U.S.A.

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#1 General Comment

I am no Longer an ACN Rep

AUTHOR: No longer an ACN Rep - ()

Honestly pride almost desuaded me from not updating this but after reading my original comments I was amazed, LOL. I was amazed at just how quickly I was indoctrinated, spewing the behaviors and scripts handed to me. Therefore, I decideded that I needed to rebuttal my original statement. When I originally wrote my comment I was passionate and I was on fire for a company that I believed was the vehicle to my dreams. Like many MLM opportunities one is often sold on your dreams of what the possibilities can be, which is a powerful lure. However, the true test and value of anything is whether or not it has endured the test of time or the fruits it has yielded, which in my case concerning ACN was short lived with expenses than rewards. In retrospect this posed a few questions for me, not necessarily in this order.

1. How much are you willing to invest in time and your own monetary resources before you realize the promise. 2. When do you cut your losses.

I'm not going to refute ACN, but instead put myself out there a bit from my own personal perspective because I don't want to mislead anyone in any way. I felt the team of people that I worked with was amazing in that they were supportive but the darker side of it was a very manipulating and high pressured in nature. This kind of environment is not for everyone and this duality didn't just exist with them but it also existed within me in that even though certain aspects of my experiences were inspirational others experiences were mired my own natural adversion to following blindly. On one end I was challenged to be better but on the other end the kinks in my armor were exposed. These discoveries I will say made me aware of what I needed to work on but I had no desire to be formed in the mold of my mentor. Why? because I found that it was hard to submit to a situation when I couldn't fully trust the character of my up-line. Listen, no one is perfect, but if I'm going to follow anyone there character has to be intact and Spiritually rooted. I wish I could explain this better but there are interpersonal dynamics that come into play within a group setting that either make you comfortable or not, these things you don't experience until you are within the group dynamic. I can't argue against the success of my up-line but I can say that I wasn't willing to pay the prices required to achieve success on the terms that I was being taught. Success to me is arriving to my goals with all things intact. It may require some sacrifices but not the kind that jeopardizes the things that are most important to me. I'll find success in this life but for me ACN isn't an option for now. Where am I today? By the grace of God, I'm living well, working full time, happily married, I have a great kid, and I'm in College. Make no mistake about it, sacrifices and investments are being made, but they are on my terms of what success is. I will say that I am grateful for the ACN experience because it taught me a few things about me, the tools did helped refine me and I am better for it. I wish you well, remember to fully count the cost by considering all things before you consider involvement.

Good luck.

K. Scott
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#2 Consumer Comment

Quitters Never Win!

AUTHOR: Quitters Never Win - ()

Hi Wendy:

I feel your frustration. I have been in business before and you must have an attitude that you are going to give it everything you got before you say it does not work.  To be in business for yourself you MUST have long-term thinking if not you will develop what I call heart MURMUR because of seeing no results. Do not blame others for failure when you did not put your 100% into it yourself.  The success in ACN is the trainings and following the systems--Did you attend ALL or most of trainings?  Did you go to the life changing conferences? I can tell that you didn't. 

You had 10 days to get your money back. In that time frame if you geared up with the persons that helped launched you into ACN there was a bonus that you would have earned your money back in that 10-day period.  But if you hissed, made excuses and the lost of a go-getter spirit dwindled then your ACN business suffered at whose hands?

Also, to be in business is going to cost money.  You complain about $499.00 and the other fees which are business tools to increase revenue and help keep track of your business. Are you kidding me?  You were partnered with multi-million dollar companies such as AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, ComCast, ADT, Gas & Electric companies of which you had no requisitions sent to you from them asking for more money!! They send a piece of their revenue to ACN and ACN sends your portion to you as their gratitude for getting them happy customers and the retention of their customers.  You think $499.00 is all you have to pay. Did you ever consider that since you quit you will never know how much money you would have made?  

My recommendation to you is to have an honest talk with upline and the person(s) that brought you into the business about a road map for success to acquire RESIDUAL INCOME. It is apparent you don't have it and want to be able to make better choices in your life or you would not have joined.  Is it easy? Of course not!  Anything worthwhile brings some sort of turmoil and pain.  Everyone is not doing ACN because it is the diamond in the haystack that many are not willing to stick their hands into the haystack to get their financial freedom.

Diane G.
Malaga, NJ  
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#3 Consumer Comment

Same Old Haters!

AUTHOR: R. Michael G - ()

Wow so much effort to say so little.

Obviously most of the posts in here are from people who just hate the MLM business, probably the same type of people who could not do it.

I have written so many long and detailed responses to all of these baseless claims by ANONYMOUS sources, that It's nauseating, so I'll just keep them simple.

If you want to know the truth about this just go to - ACNIBO: Read The Facts - and read the article. It will only take a few minutes and you will understand the facts, not just opinions of 100s of ANONYMOUS complainers, who claim to know the truth, but wont reveal who they actually are.

There is no point in defending ACN from people who just want to believe how bad it is, they will seek what they want to believe, if you're one of them, dont bother reading the article you might have to change your mind.

R. Michael G**** ACN IBO #02637585

Read the complete article explaining the FACTS not ANONYMOUS opinions
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#4 General Comment

ACN "endorsements" are just paid advertising

AUTHOR: DEB - (United States of America)

Donald Trump was paid to endorse ACN.  That doesn't mean that he supports it.  He was simply paid to be a spokesperson for ACN.

Further, ACN was on The Celebrity Apprentice because the company PAID to be on the show.  Paid advertising in reality TV form.  
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#5 REBUTTAL Owner of company

The 3% rule

AUTHOR: JBers - (United States of America)

Don't you think the 3% rule works with almost every form of job, work, opportunity? 3% reach the top, and the other 97% fill in the rest of the 'gap'.
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#6 Consumer Suggestion

In response to save the slick talk and orginal poster

AUTHOR: Coachable ACN Rep - (United States of America)

Let me start this off by saying yes I am an ACN REP. I am brand spanking new, 8 weeks and counting.  So I'm not going to speak from a stand point of years in the business or with a full compliment of answers in defense of every last point made prior. Never the less, I believe my opinion based on a few facts is valid enough for me. Hopefully you'll share in my views. So far these are my results, I've had a few no shows at my PBR's, why because people are people, they don't always honor their word, so what do you do about that? You set up the next meeting. Eventually the one who does honor their words will come. I've also made a few assumptions along the way in ignorance, but there's nothing like learning first hand from experience. What do you do about that? You try not to repeat the same mistake twice and learn from it. What I find interesting is the attempts to refute something in which it's clear that you don't have a full understanding of, or full experience of involvement. People we can pretend to equate MLM's (Multilevel Marketing) and Pyramid schemes as being the same, but in fact there are some clear delineations between the two. Will I go into a long History of the differences, absolutely not. I've learned something very simple yet profound, "to the corrupt all things are corrupt and to the pure all things are pure." You tend to view things through the lens of your experiences and perceptions, which means that we can interpret the world around us through a skewed lens. If we don't take the time to evaluate what we see as opinions or facts, we tend to internalize them as truths. So let me hip you to a few basic facts. Whether or not you'll believe them is up to you.

My opinion and a few Facts

1. Donald Trump endorses ACN. You can say what you want about Mr Trump. I do know this, his name and expertise is how he makes his money, period.  When it comes to making money he's much smarter than anyone on this page combined.  He has researched ACN and the man is not in the business of putting his endorsement on anything that's not profitable and/or not worthy of his association. I personally sat less than 40 feet from him in NC at the Time/Warner convention.  Having the privilege to glean knowledge from his lips (live), I was more than convinced beyond a shadow of doubt. I was convicted of a few things, A) This opportunity is real and success is achievable. B) ACN doesn't fail people, people fail at ACN. If I failed in this opportunity it's because I didn't reach for the top by applying myself fully and it will also mean that I didn't overcome my cynicism, skepticism, or fear of rejection.

2. ACN was featured on Celebrity Apprentice and early next year will be featured again. How many Direct Marketing Companies do you know that are getting Celebrity endorsements with National Exposure? If you can't see the value or validity of that, good luck.

3. ACN is a 500 billion dollar Company with a clear vision to grow it's market base but more importantly invest in it's people. This is a company that has survived two recessions and continues to grow. Why, because it's a scam? Certainly not and to believe otherwise is pure foolishness. Integrity and a commitment to it's people is what separates ACN from the rest of the pack, period. Many Direct Marketing companies will come and go but ACN is here to stay.  ACN's growth and longevity in the worst and best of times has proven this. (that's a fact Jack)

3. This business is not for the faint of heart. If you don't like rejection, can't overcome your fears, and can't grow beyond that?  Well, frankly this business is clearly not for you. One thing is for sure, If you continue to do the same thing and not change, your situation will not improve and in many cases deteriorate. How in the world can you expect your situation to change, without you changing the one dynamic involved?You. Some people don't mind living in the box that they built for themselves, but call it what it is.

4. A 499.99 start-up cost for a business that challenges me to be a better man and I get payed for it! No way..... get out of here?!?!?! Seriously?!?!? Do you know how much it really costs to start the average small business? Try the tune of 10,000 - 15,000 and often higher. This isn't my first rodeo and I finally found an opportunity that fit's me, with services and products that I trust. I also have an amazing support system in the organization that I'm in. Make no bones about it, there are going to be expenses in the beginning, until you are able to capitalize on the compensation plan but patients in our microwave minded society is rare. In general lazy people are always looking for that something for nothing or minimal efforts for maximum rewards. That's not how things work. The Reality is that the average start-up company requires considerable time, money and effort. This is a part time business until you are responsibly able to go full time and you are absolutely sure of your financial viability. If you aren't willing to invest in you or your company than how can you even consider success as an option? Many Companies do not yield profits in the beginning of the venture depending on the business. Sometimes it's no pain, no gain, and a lot of faith in your outcome. If the ACN founders can operate with that level of Faith so can I.

5. I'm living my dreams with the full understanding that it's the journey that makes me, not the arrival. There are so many benefits that I'm receiving along the way that are building in me character, which is not always an easy process but a very beneficial one. I believe that as long as I persevere, perseverance will finish the work that it began.

6. All decisions are rooted in an emotional based needs. How big is your why? How big was your personal vision or dream? It's not too late to rekindle that flame, but  your flame needs stoking. Success is a choice, especially when there's no other option. It's funny how we make all kinds of excuses for failure, but we don't give ourselves enough reasons to succeed.  I'm not picking on the original poster or any negative posts for that matter. All that I talked about I am able to because I am dealing with these struggles myself, day in day out. The only difference is that I've already determined my outcome. This is what makes or breaks people in Direct Marketing. Here's the ugly truth, not everyone that joins ACN will succeed, because they don't work the system in place and/or they quit. So put the blame where it belongs.

7. I leave you a poem from W.B. Yeats

"Had I the heavens embroidered cloths,
Enwrought with golden and silver light,
The blue and the dim and the dark cloths
Of night and light and the half light,
I would spread the cloths under your feet:
But I, being poor, have only my dreams;
I have spread my dreams under your feet;
Tread softly because you tread on my dreams."

Kimball Scott ACN Rep and I'm apart of a Powerful Organization in the Boston Market and I'm building my own. Call me if you have any question on it and if I don't know the answer I'll find it for you. 617-230-3141





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#7 Consumer Comment

Save The Slick Sales Talk

AUTHOR: Anthony - (U.S.A.)

I was fine to leave it as it was, but this thread is filled with pathetic attempts to defend the indefensible.

ACN is absolutely operating as a multi-level marketer, which means that those who pay to be allowed to market their products benefit ONLY through recruiting efforts to bring others on board, who then pay to be allowed the privilege to market the same products.

The phrase "multi-level marketing" is no different than the phrase "pyramid scheme". Lower level "employees" make little or next to nothing and the only way to achieve a profit is to recruit others into the "business." Those who actually succeed in their recruitment efforts make more money. The more people attributed to your efforts, the higher up the pyramid you go.

Because there is a product for sale per se, this and many other companies like it that also sell at least one product or service, escape being prosecuted under our laws. Thus, they are barely legal.

ACN doesn't care how many products or services it sells. There is little profit in selling them. Their profit is derived through MARKETING what they claim to sell.

Think about it. They collect $499.00 from every person who is eager to sign up to become one of their marketers. ACN sells them a website and collect $30.00 a month on each of those while they are online. Who needs to sell the core product or service? There's more money to be made in marketing the marketer.

When a marketing associate is successful in recruiting someone else to sign up, the company gives the recruiting associate a little taste of the revenue collected. The more people they recruit, the more they make. Their recruits recruit and the pyramid grows. If someone actually makes a sale along the way, so much the better.

A disturbing aspect of this business and so many others out there that are doing the same thing, is that they market products and/or services that can be purchased directly from companies that legitimately brought them to the marketplace. Another other disturbing fact is that for some reason, the originating companies are completely unaware that their reputations are being tarnished the longer these kind of arrangements are allowed to continue.

Read the reports on this very site. Most, if not all of the companies that have complaints against them that allow third parties to sell their products and/or services are being inundated with complaints. Do a little research into the nature of those complaints and you will discover that the overwhelming majority involve issues that originated when they were sold the product or service by a third party.

ACN is merely a reseller of the products they put out there for sale, so who in their right mind would want to have to deal with a third party and over the internet where there is virtually no one to go to if I am ripped-off? I wouldn't. I won't. So sales actually made are few and far between. If I want home security services, cable or satellite services, or a cell phone and service, I'm going to purchase them from a brick and mortar store near where I live. It's just that simple.

Now this laughable assertion that by forking over $499.00 for a "franchise" and bilking you out of $30.00 a month for a web presence, is akin in any manner to operating a "business" is complete bunk and nothing more than a sales gimmick.

When you buy a McDonald's franchise, you buy the supplies for your franchise outlet from the franchiser or their approved suppliers. You agree to abide by their standards at all times so that what you sell through your franchise location is the same as what is sold by another franchisee. You may even be subjected to pricing controls. But you make those sales directly and you reap the profit on those sales immediately. McDonald's doesn't collect all the revenue and send you the "approved amount" of your profit or commissions.

It's very simple;

1.) Anytime that a "business" is offering you an "opportunity" to make money in any form or fashion and the business is not disclosing every single term and condition up-front, you are likely going to be ripped-off;

2.) Anytime a "business" has complete control of every cent collected in sales revenue, you are ABSOLUTELY going to be ripped-off, and last, but not least;

3.) If you are being asked to PAY MONEY UP FRONT for any opportunity to work for someone else in the selling or marketing any product or service AND you do not actually handle the sales transactions between yourself and your customers, you are being wined and dined for a total rip-off.

If any of the above three circumstances apply to any arrangement with ANY company you are looking at, then do the smart thing and back off immediately.

Your reward will be to keep money you earned, rather than to give it to someone who doesn't deserve a dime.
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#8 Consumer Comment

Missing the boat

AUTHOR: Dave - (U.S.A.)

Why on earth do I want to pay $499 and then work my butt off????

Thats like asking why someone who pays a million plus dollars for a McDonalds or other fast food frachise would work their butt off. The answer is because they have invested a sizeable sum of money to purchase their own business and it's up to them to make it succeed. Whether you believe it or not those people work their tails off just ask one of them.

What you have purchased for your $499 dollars is a business and as such needs to be treated as a business. There are very few business' out there that will cash flow in under a year, this one can and does. No business can grow without advertising of one form or another, the advertising for network marketing companies comes from word of mouth. Are you going to come across rejection? Of course, even direct mailings only have a 2% success ratio. Word of mouth's ratio is much higher and much cheaper.

I've started several successful business' and every single one required hard, hard work. If your not willing to work, then you are correct owning a business of any kind is not for you. Keep your money and continue to work for others.

Talk to a few business owners and see if you can find even one who started their business for under $500 and has operating expenses under $100 per month. Good luck finding even one. However even with such low costs if you won't work and persist you will fail and it will be no one's fault but your own.

Successful entrepeneurs have the long term vision and don't give up over a few little obstacles, thats the key to succeeding in anything in life.
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#9 Consumer Comment

Missing the boat

AUTHOR: Dave - (U.S.A.)

Why on earth do I want to pay $499 and then work my butt off????

Thats like asking why someone who pays a million plus dollars for a McDonalds or other fast food frachise would work their butt off. The answer is because they have invested a sizeable sum of money to purchase their own business and it's up to them to make it succeed. Whether you believe it or not those people work their tails off just ask one of them.

What you have purchased for your $499 dollars is a business and as such needs to be treated as a business. There are very few business' out there that will cash flow in under a year, this one can and does. No business can grow without advertising of one form or another, the advertising for network marketing companies comes from word of mouth. Are you going to come across rejection? Of course, even direct mailings only have a 2% success ratio. Word of mouth's ratio is much higher and much cheaper.

I've started several successful business' and every single one required hard, hard work. If your not willing to work, then you are correct owning a business of any kind is not for you. Keep your money and continue to work for others.

Talk to a few business owners and see if you can find even one who started their business for under $500 and has operating expenses under $100 per month. Good luck finding even one. However even with such low costs if you won't work and persist you will fail and it will be no one's fault but your own.

Successful entrepeneurs have the long term vision and don't give up over a few little obstacles, thats the key to succeeding in anything in life.
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#10 Consumer Comment

Missing the boat

AUTHOR: Dave - (U.S.A.)

Why on earth do I want to pay $499 and then work my butt off????

Thats like asking why someone who pays a million plus dollars for a McDonalds or other fast food frachise would work their butt off. The answer is because they have invested a sizeable sum of money to purchase their own business and it's up to them to make it succeed. Whether you believe it or not those people work their tails off just ask one of them.

What you have purchased for your $499 dollars is a business and as such needs to be treated as a business. There are very few business' out there that will cash flow in under a year, this one can and does. No business can grow without advertising of one form or another, the advertising for network marketing companies comes from word of mouth. Are you going to come across rejection? Of course, even direct mailings only have a 2% success ratio. Word of mouth's ratio is much higher and much cheaper.

I've started several successful business' and every single one required hard, hard work. If your not willing to work, then you are correct owning a business of any kind is not for you. Keep your money and continue to work for others.

Talk to a few business owners and see if you can find even one who started their business for under $500 and has operating expenses under $100 per month. Good luck finding even one. However even with such low costs if you won't work and persist you will fail and it will be no one's fault but your own.

Successful entrepeneurs have the long term vision and don't give up over a few little obstacles, thats the key to succeeding in anything in life.
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#11 Consumer Comment

Missing the boat

AUTHOR: Dave - (U.S.A.)

Why on earth do I want to pay $499 and then work my butt off????

Thats like asking why someone who pays a million plus dollars for a McDonalds or other fast food frachise would work their butt off. The answer is because they have invested a sizeable sum of money to purchase their own business and it's up to them to make it succeed. Whether you believe it or not those people work their tails off just ask one of them.

What you have purchased for your $499 dollars is a business and as such needs to be treated as a business. There are very few business' out there that will cash flow in under a year, this one can and does. No business can grow without advertising of one form or another, the advertising for network marketing companies comes from word of mouth. Are you going to come across rejection? Of course, even direct mailings only have a 2% success ratio. Word of mouth's ratio is much higher and much cheaper.

I've started several successful business' and every single one required hard, hard work. If your not willing to work, then you are correct owning a business of any kind is not for you. Keep your money and continue to work for others.

Talk to a few business owners and see if you can find even one who started their business for under $500 and has operating expenses under $100 per month. Good luck finding even one. However even with such low costs if you won't work and persist you will fail and it will be no one's fault but your own.

Successful entrepeneurs have the long term vision and don't give up over a few little obstacles, thats the key to succeeding in anything in life.
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#12 Consumer Comment

ACN

AUTHOR: Steve - (U.S.A.)

I have an answer to someone who previously filed and just found this out.

Look at line 18 on the contract.

The company has every right on what to pay out at any given time.

That is a breach of contract.


A friend of mine called me up and wanted me to join.

Here is another question.

Why on earth do I want to pay $499 and then work my butt off?

Doesn't always work out like that.

I do, however, have something in mind in a form of a website where I will help people make money and its not this company.

Coming soon
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#13 Consumer Comment

ACN~ contracts with other companies

AUTHOR: Show Me The Money - (U.S.A.)

I had someone approach me about joining ACN and how I should purchase the video phone. I was even given the whole speech about how ACN will be the only company who will have the rights to selling digital cell phones in 2011. I thought how odd, digital cell phones have been out for quite a while.

So, I picked up the phone and called my carrier (VERIZON) and visited with them about my phone and how I was told by an ACN rep that they would have the rights to the first digital cell phones in 2011. The verizon representative told me that they were in no way associated with ACN and also assured me that my phone I had (chocolate) is a digital cell phone and they have only sold digital phones in about the last 8 or more years.

Wow, so ACN has all these people believing they have the "rights" to the first digital cell phone that will be available in 2011.

I decided, maybe I should call Direct TV. They also told me "they are no way associated with ACN". So if ACN has all these other companies contracted, why are the companies saying they are not associated with ACN. The person who approached me about ACN told me that I would make a commission off my own payment to Direct TV and Verizon. I have to ask, why would Verizon take away any money from their own stores and kiosk desks like they have?

I don't buy into this money making tactic at all. I'm glad I am in Zrii!
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#14 Consumer Comment

ACN~ contracts with other companies

AUTHOR: Show Me The Money - (U.S.A.)

I had someone approach me about joining ACN and how I should purchase the video phone. I was even given the whole speech about how ACN will be the only company who will have the rights to selling digital cell phones in 2011. I thought how odd, digital cell phones have been out for quite a while.

So, I picked up the phone and called my carrier (VERIZON) and visited with them about my phone and how I was told by an ACN rep that they would have the rights to the first digital cell phones in 2011. The verizon representative told me that they were in no way associated with ACN and also assured me that my phone I had (chocolate) is a digital cell phone and they have only sold digital phones in about the last 8 or more years.

Wow, so ACN has all these people believing they have the "rights" to the first digital cell phone that will be available in 2011.

I decided, maybe I should call Direct TV. They also told me "they are no way associated with ACN". So if ACN has all these other companies contracted, why are the companies saying they are not associated with ACN. The person who approached me about ACN told me that I would make a commission off my own payment to Direct TV and Verizon. I have to ask, why would Verizon take away any money from their own stores and kiosk desks like they have?

I don't buy into this money making tactic at all. I'm glad I am in Zrii!
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ACN~ contracts with other companies

AUTHOR: Show Me The Money - (U.S.A.)

I had someone approach me about joining ACN and how I should purchase the video phone. I was even given the whole speech about how ACN will be the only company who will have the rights to selling digital cell phones in 2011. I thought how odd, digital cell phones have been out for quite a while.

So, I picked up the phone and called my carrier (VERIZON) and visited with them about my phone and how I was told by an ACN rep that they would have the rights to the first digital cell phones in 2011. The verizon representative told me that they were in no way associated with ACN and also assured me that my phone I had (chocolate) is a digital cell phone and they have only sold digital phones in about the last 8 or more years.

Wow, so ACN has all these people believing they have the "rights" to the first digital cell phone that will be available in 2011.

I decided, maybe I should call Direct TV. They also told me "they are no way associated with ACN". So if ACN has all these other companies contracted, why are the companies saying they are not associated with ACN. The person who approached me about ACN told me that I would make a commission off my own payment to Direct TV and Verizon. I have to ask, why would Verizon take away any money from their own stores and kiosk desks like they have?

I don't buy into this money making tactic at all. I'm glad I am in Zrii!
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ACN~ contracts with other companies

AUTHOR: Show Me The Money - (U.S.A.)

I had someone approach me about joining ACN and how I should purchase the video phone. I was even given the whole speech about how ACN will be the only company who will have the rights to selling digital cell phones in 2011. I thought how odd, digital cell phones have been out for quite a while.

So, I picked up the phone and called my carrier (VERIZON) and visited with them about my phone and how I was told by an ACN rep that they would have the rights to the first digital cell phones in 2011. The verizon representative told me that they were in no way associated with ACN and also assured me that my phone I had (chocolate) is a digital cell phone and they have only sold digital phones in about the last 8 or more years.

Wow, so ACN has all these people believing they have the "rights" to the first digital cell phone that will be available in 2011.

I decided, maybe I should call Direct TV. They also told me "they are no way associated with ACN". So if ACN has all these other companies contracted, why are the companies saying they are not associated with ACN. The person who approached me about ACN told me that I would make a commission off my own payment to Direct TV and Verizon. I have to ask, why would Verizon take away any money from their own stores and kiosk desks like they have?

I don't buy into this money making tactic at all. I'm glad I am in Zrii!
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#17 Consumer Comment

The Truth From An Unbiased Stance!!

AUTHOR: Anthony - (U.S.A.)

ACN is not necessarily a scam, but it IS a rip-off. This company absolutely markets a product for sale. However, the fact is that you are not going to invest $499.00 and then sit back and enjoy great success.

This company is a multi-level marketer. Very few people make meaningful money in such arrangements UNLESS you take an active role in selling, recruiting others, and put a great deal of time into all that is needed to make what you desire. No one has enough friends and family to sustain making a living from selling videophones to them.

The bottom line is that the only party making very much out of this is ACN.

And let's not forget that they don't do so bad by collecting $500 a pop from those who are recruited into the fold or when they sell to the "staff" those great websites that rakes them in a tidy profit each month.

No MLM is worth getting involved in. They are only offering you the opportunity to market THEIR products or services and make them an immense profit at your expense.

Think about it. If you owned a business and had something to sell, why purchase ad space, television or radio commercials, or hire a top notch sales staff, when you can lure people into advertising your product, spread the word to friends and family of those ignorant enough to buy into the scheme and RECEIVE money up-front from people rather than paying it out in marketing costs?

Then again...who needs to sell anything at all under such a scenario. The bulk of their profit comes in from saps who pay them that $500 to find out that it's just not a great way to make a living. Most never figure out that they have been had in more ways than one.

Folks...there is no free lunch. No legitimate "employer" will ask you to pay any money up-front to work for them. For pete's sake, when are people going to wake the heck up to these schemes? MLM's have been around for decades and the only reason they thrive is because there seems to be no shortage of willing victims, who will fall for those cleverly worded ads or "recommendations" every time. Five minutes online is all it takes to find enough information to know that this one is not a good idea. It's a rip-off. It's not illegal, because they are smart enough to skirt the laws.

The unemployment situation in this country could practically be solved overnight if people would stop feeding these companies their money for one week, forcing them out of business or to hire people and pay them to market their products honestly and fairly.

But what do I know? I'm not a gambler. I wouldn't step into a casino and drop $500 in a slot machine expecting to win a million bucks. I sure wouldn't shell out $500 for the privilege of selling anything that is not right in front of me to take possession of immediately.

Ask yourself a question; If someone advertised a car for sale online, such as a brand new Ferrari for $1000, would you send them your credit card information and trust them to deliver the car and the title to your home? I think most people would answer "absolutely not."

Then why would you spend $500 on something less tangible and more obscure as any opportunity to sell a product that you will never see, touch, or have in your possession to sell?
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#18 UPDATE Employee

Rip Off ~ ACN?

AUTHOR: Jenae - (U.S.A.)

I am a representative for ACN. I have been with them since November of 2008. In the six months that I have been with this company I have had not seen or heard of anything illegal or dishonest things about this company. Let me ask you this ~ Why in the world would Verizon, Sprint, Cingular, T-Mobile, ADT Home Security, Direct TV, Dish Network and so on contract with ACN if they were a scam? Or why would one of the richest men in the world Endorse a company that is very popular and worldwide known for his success sign with ACN if it was a rip off? These companies WOULD NOT put their name on something and let people be a third party to there company if it was a rip off!

First of all, every single company in this WORLD is a pyramid. Wether you want to believe it or not, they are and always will be. That is the way it is. There is always a owner who is obviously on top of the company, then there are managers that are below them, then there are employees who are right below the mangager and so on. It is all a pyramid.

My advice to anyone that has negative stuff to say about ACN, is to try to work the business they have it layed out for you instead of trying to do it your way and make money. It is simple. It is no ones fault for your failure because you didnt do what they had told and showed you to do. What business can you do or invest in with only 499.00. NONE! For the $29.99 fee a month for your business assistant, you signed up for that and you also got all the info on it. It specifically states that you DO NOT have to have it. You CHOOSE to get it and pay for it. They take it out once a month and not twice a month. If there is a problem with billing there is a 24/7 hour service for you to have that fixed for you. You can cancel the Business Assistant anytime you please without paying a cancellation fee. Dont blame ACN for your bad experience, blame your efforts and your upline for not training you properly or getting you launched properly. If you dont have the drive to work a business you have no right to be in any business. You are better off working for someone instead of for yourself.
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#19 UPDATE Employee

THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO DO

AUTHOR: Aygot Suk Zess - (U.S.A.)

Hello, I am a current representative for ACN.. I completelly understand how you feel but let me share with you what i had to go through to start having the success that i wanted when i join the company.

I got introduced just a little over 4 moths, and just like you i bought a video phone my business assistant and i paid my $499. I also did my PBR and i tried to get people involved... for my first 2 months i made no money and I felt the same way you feel now. But i knew that if i just kept on trying and trying i would find someone that was better than me. I kept going to the weekly meetings and build relationships with TC's and RVP's and started to develop myself as a leader... I started to think better, and feel more confortable about what i was doing. I gain more confidence and was not afraid of rejection. you wouldn't believe how many people rejected me and laughed at me because i was doing work for free. well by the end of my third month I said to my self that i was going to do this till i made my money back and no matter what i was not going to quit. Well what do you know.. I hit the first position of ETT after 3 and half months withouth making a dime and 2 days after I met a gentlemen at a trainstation and I asked him if he was interested in making some extra money..after all the NO's i got from all my friends and family i knew he was probably going to say no, but he said yes and we talked some more and more and introduced him to my upline RVP. Well the gentleman got started and his first day he hit ETT and his 4th day he hit ETL and guess who got paid on his whole team..yes ME! this is almost my first month in the business and now I'm a top ETL in production and maxing out the compensation plan this month at 7,000. I know for a fact by the fast growth of my organization i can be a TC by the end of the summer, where i can make up to 25,000.

Can you imagine if i would have quit when i felt down and i was making no money..All i did was just stayed concistent and always positive no matter what.

So the answer to my title of "THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO DO" is the following:

See in ACN 97% of the people quit, because they don't see the money right away, I guarantee you that you probably did this business for a month or two and did not see any results and that is why your saying that ACN is a pyramid and a scam. but what do you think can happen if you didn't quit and kept going to meetings. Only 3% of the people that join ACN make it to the top. Why? because that is the percentage of people who are actually committed and have a drive to succeed. This business is not easy, it is really hard work. But aren't you going to work hard anyway. and did you treat this like a $500 dollar business instead of a $100,000,000 dollar business? I know you did because otherwise you would have never gave up.

Hopefully you still belive in yourself that you can make it. and if not then i'm sorry you wasted 500 dollars. I wish i can help you to get your money back.. but you shouldn't have joined if you were going to follow through with it.

Thank You,
ACN rep
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#20 Author of original report

To Just Curious

AUTHOR: Wendy - (U.S.A.)

He (My friend) says that he is making money off this, but I highly doubt it.
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#21 Consumer Suggestion

Curious...

AUTHOR: Casey - (U.S.A.)

So, what happened to you and your friend's relationship?? Is she making money from this venture on your behalf? Without knowing you or her...strictly outsider looking in, it seems like she used you just to get her head above water with the entire scam.
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