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  • Submitted: Tue, December 20, 2005
  • Updated: Mon, January 30, 2012

  • Reported By:San Luis Obispo California
A.I.U. Online American Intercontinental University
3300 Peachtree Rd NE Atlanta, Georgia U.S.A.

AIU, A.I.U., American Intercontinental University, AIU Online Ripoff Losing Its Accreditation! Move Your Student Loan Funds to other schools now Atlanta Georgia

*Consumer Comment: I would like to speak with you in regards to AIU.

*Consumer Comment: Shamefully misleading

*Consumer Suggestion: CEC which owns AIU has many current and past issues with truth (read the report)

*Consumer Suggestion: CEC which owns IADT, AIU and CTU has a very dark history. Read the legal documents

*Consumer Suggestion: What school gets placed on probation to begin with??? CEC and AIU has a dark past.

*Consumer Comment: Probation REMOVED

*UPDATE Employee: Not true.

*Consumer Suggestion: AIU Ripoff

*Consumer Comment: NOT TRUE

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: AIU Online IS in trouble

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: AIU IS in trouble

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: AIU IS in trouble

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: AIU IS in trouble

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: AIU IS in trouble

*Consumer Comment: Update, information and links

*Consumer Comment: Inquiry Concerning Motivation and My Comments

*UPDATE Employee: Furthermore...

*UPDATE Employee: Furthermore...

*Consumer Comment: Can read just fine

*UPDATE Employee: Evidently you DON'T know how to read...

*Consumer Comment: I know how to read

*UPDATE Employee: Learn to read.

*Consumer Suggestion: Probation Concerns

*Consumer Comment: AIU Online

*Consumer Comment: Placed on Probation for a reason.

*Consumer Comment: Placed on Probation for a reason.

*Consumer Comment: Placed on Probation for a reason.

*Consumer Comment: Placed on Probation for a reason.

*Consumer Comment: AIU's University System Remains Accredited

*Consumer Comment: It's true.. AIU was placed on probation for failing to demonstrate compliance with the Prologue to Principals of Accreditation

*UPDATE Employee: Just not true

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Report this to the following entities in order to hasten the loss of their now suspended accreditation:

James T. Rogers, Exec Director
Southern Assn of Colleges and Schools
Fax 404-679-4558 jrogers@sacscoc.org

the department of education since tens of thousands of students and millions of dollars of student loan funds are affected nationwide

usnei@ed.gov

chea@chea.org is the organization in charge of accrediation boards so they should be able to give a history of this school's run ins with the various regional boards (rap sheet?)

alan.l.contreras@state.or.us is in charge of Oregon's diploma mills and getting rid of them. That is where a major call center is located now.

Scream and yell to FAFSA, SALLIE MAE and which ever banks you got loans from, when the money supply stops, so will they. Remember that this is a national and international scam, so do your best to help others recover also. There may be a class action suit out of all this, one never knows. The lies alone would seem to justify that, even without the financial scamming.

FAFSA 1-800-433-3243 SallieMae 888-272-5543 and Wachovia Bank is currently one of their lenders which may need a call also.

Good luck.

P
San Luis Obispo, California
U.S.A.

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#1 Consumer Comment

I would like to speak with you in regards to AIU.

AUTHOR: Anni - (United States of America)

This is actually not a rebuttal, but more of a comment/question. Becky, I am a former AIULA student seeking loan forgiveness because of the loss of accreditation as well it's closing down. How can I contact you for more info? I do appreciate what you have put down already, however my loan companies and AIU Online reps are arguing that it never lost it's accreditation, while I was told that by instructors as well as staff from other schools. That is why I couldn't and still cannot transfer any units from there. Please get back to me as soon as you can (((ROR redacted)))

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#2 Consumer Comment

Shamefully misleading

AUTHOR: Pam - (U.S.A.)

It really is a shame that a website such as this, which could be very beneficial to consumers, is being used to shamefully exagerate and mislead the public rather than to merely inform.

Yes, AIU did have problems. They were placed on probation until they were corrected, as has happened to many, many other fine universities (readers would be very surprised at some of the university names currently on SACS website with sanctions against them, or on probation).

Being placed on probation does NOT justify a rip-off report title claiming AIU is losing it's accreditation. That only happens if the institution does not correct the problems during the probationary period. If the title had read that AIU was in 'danger' of losing it's accreditation, that could have been justified--stating that it 'is' losing it's accreditation is not justifiable. Semantics? Yes, but that one word makes all the difference in interpretation.

AIU took corrective action and was taken off probation by SACS in October 2007, with no further sanctions against them. AIU remains fully accredited, as it did throughout the entire process. Why don't you publicize that information??

It should be noted that most schools that end up on probation do not do so for academic reasons. Most often, the problems lie in the areas of Admissions and/or Financial Aid, and sometimes Placement. This was true, also, for AIU. (I'm not saying these were the only things they were cited on, but they were the major reasons).

I can testify that I received a very fine education as a masters student online. The coursework was challenging and I worked very, very hard to earn that degree. I cannot speak to the person who posted about their associates degree requiring almost no work, other than to say that, usually, the lower the degree, the easier it is to earn. I certainly put in many long hours on my degree and have seen the pay-off in my career. I resent the slur to myself and the thousands of other AIU graduates who worked hard for their degrees.

Unlike with some degree programs, I have actually been able to see the practical application of using what I learned from AIU on a daily basis in my job. I work for another college and could not hold the position I now have without the knowledge I received through AIU's Masters of Educational Technology degree. I sometimes refer to projects I completed for my degree and use them as a model for the work I do for the college.

Did I never have anything to complain about when I was a student? I can think of several issues that I had. But when it comes to the education I received, I definately believe I made a wise choice in choosing AIU.
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#3 Consumer Suggestion

CEC which owns AIU has many current and past issues with truth (read the report)

AUTHOR: Charles Hobbstein - (U.S.A.)

AIU is owned by (CEC): Another investigation in January

CEC baught AIU and CEC has a dark past.

This is why I dropped out: THIS IS DISTRUBING!
http://www.secinfo.com/dRSm6.v1bd.htm

CEC students need answeres of stability and performance in their schools.

Another CBS investigation about CEC will be airing in early January. The investigations don't seem to be ceasing. These sites are trying to inform CEC students.

http://academy.facebook.com/s.php?n=-1&k=200000010&q=CEC+truth

CEC schools are a very bad investiment for higher education.

PLEASE BE ADVISED.
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#4 Consumer Suggestion

CEC which owns IADT, AIU and CTU has a very dark history. Read the legal documents

AUTHOR: Cec Truth Advocate - (U.S.A.)

CEC is the corporation which owns AIU, CTU and IADT along with many others.

Never attend a CEC school. CEC has a very dark history. Seeing CEC officials here on ripoffreport.com won't be a few and far between occurance. It's actually a standard deceiving practice this corporation has been using for many years.

CEC representatives get asked too write rebutals or they think a promotion is right around the corner.

Investigate this company before every speaking with a representative.

There is a group online that helps get the word out without CEC representatives drowning students with rebutals which are unfounded and are actually the opposite of what students report.

The Numbers Can't Lie.

CEC Truth Advocate:
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#5 Consumer Suggestion

What school gets placed on probation to begin with??? CEC and AIU has a dark past.

AUTHOR: Chuck Heinsberg - (U.S.A.)

There is a group online that reports about CEC schools.

It would be in your best interest to see what past and current students are saying along with faculty from their institutions.

CEC has a dark past with deceiving and dishonest enrollment practices. With what the students are saying and are stating these bamboozling practices havn't stopped and hundreds of thousands of dollars is being ripped from the students and their school loans.

Read these reports and decide for yourself if a CEC school is for you.

The IADT Truth Advocate:
http://academy.facebook.com/group.php?gid=5604847490
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#6 Consumer Comment

Probation REMOVED

AUTHOR: Researcher - (U.S.A.)

Effective Dec 10, 2007 AIU has been removed from probationary status. This can be verified via the following document: http://www.sacscoc.org/pdf/07cractdec.pdf at the SACSCOC website.
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#7 UPDATE Employee

Not true.

AUTHOR: Advisorlady - (U.S.A.)

You don't know what you are talking about. The school has not had its accreditation suspended, it is only on probation and will more than likely be off it at review in December. Many educational institutions which are considered to be of high quality have been put on probation by their accrediting bodies - it is a way to make sure they address concerns of the accrediting body and correct them, to protect the students and give them a quality education. AIU is fully addressing all SACS concerns and has no intention of ripping off its students. We value our students highly. And ALL accreditation is VOLUNTARY.
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#8 Consumer Suggestion

AIU Ripoff

AUTHOR: X - (U.S.A.)

Yes, there are numerous people who have received their degrees from AIU Online. I just went to receive an associates degree because many other schools like to see an associates degree when applying for the bachelor degree program. I completed the program wth ease. I would only spend about an hour a week for the two classes. I never even cracked a couple of the books and still graduated with a 3.5. Well, when I go try to transfer my credits to other universities, they aren't quite enough. What a waste of almost $25K and 13 months of my life.
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#9 Consumer Comment

NOT TRUE

AUTHOR: Jeff - (U.S.A.)

There is something very wrong when someone takes a partial truth probation occured but NOT for all of those reasons listed!! accredation was never lost, and never will be) and then they add their own choice words (opinion, or lies) in an attempt to bring down a good school.

Not only are you hurting the school, you are insulting thousand of its graduates, including myself.

I want to point out that I work for a very successful company whose clients are all military. Each new project requires a complete background check, that includes education with accredation. In other words, I would not be working with them right now if AIU was not accredited. I have gone through between 8-10 of these background checks and passed them all.

Any attempts to tear this school integrity down should be considered false for 2 very good reasons.

1. Our own government fully recognizes AIU for being accredited, and deems a degree from there to be appropriate for acceptance to do work that requires a security clearance.

2. If any of the slanderous attempts to bring down AIU succeeds, and they should ever lose their accredation, then congratulations on dragging thousand of AIU graduates' careers through the mud and ruining all of those lives.
I know I should speak for everyone, but in my situation, if that were to ever happen, the next background check would fail and I would probably be out of a job.

So please. Stop with the nasty remarks about my school. I worked extremly hard on that degree. I stated out at a traditional brick building college and finished my degree at AIU. AIU was WAY more challenging. You people come on here and act like they just hand these degrees out to anyone. That is extremely insulting and 100% NOT TRUE.
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#10 UPDATE EX-employee responds

AIU Online IS in trouble

AUTHOR: Nicole - (U.S.A.)

I worked for AIU for over 2 years as an admissions advisor, senior advisor, admissions specialist... all the same thing, basically. AIU has been on a probation status since the end of 2005. Before that, they were on a 'warning' status. By the end of 2007, when they are again reviewed, they will have had three years to get their act together. They are on PROBATION, the most serious sanction, because of: integrity, program content, governance and administration...the list goes on. Click here and read it from SACS yourselves:

sacscoc.org/disclosure/dec2006/American%20InterContinental%20U.pdf

There are numerous lawsuits against CEC (Career Education Corp), AIU's parent company. Career Education Corporation operates over 80 private colleges and universities around the world (Le Cordon Bleu, IADT, CTU, ect). They are raking in the dough from all those other schools, so they probably don't give a rat's behind if AIU does go down. Many senior management has jumped ship, and I work for another online school with an office based in Chicago and I have seen a few Directors of Admission from AIU interviewing here recently! I was asked to participate in 2 class action suits myself! It was a horrible place to work for, but luckily I loved the job. I now work for a GREAT school where the company cares about students and employees.

That's all I have time for now, but I could tell you a few stories.
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#11 UPDATE EX-employee responds

AIU IS in trouble

AUTHOR: Nicole - (U.S.A.)

I worked for AIU for over 2 years as an admissions advisor, senior advisor, admissions specialist... all the same thing, basically. AIU has been on a probation status since the end of 2005. Before that, they were on a 'warning' status. By the end of 2007, when they are again reviewed, they will have had three years to get their act together. They are on PROBATION, the most serious sanction, because of: integrity, program content, governance and administration...the list goes on. Click here and read it from SACS yourselves: http://www.sacscoc.org/disclosure/dec2006/American%20InterContinental%20U.pdf.

There are numerous lawsuits against CEC (Career Education Corp), AIU's parent company. Career Education Corporation operates over 80 private colleges and universities around the world (Le Cordon Bleu, IADT, CTU, ect). They are raking in the dough from all those other schools, so they probably don't give a rat's ass if AIU does go down. Many senior management has jumped ship, and I work for another online school with an office based in Chicago and I have seen a few Directors of Admission from AIU interviewing here recently! I was asked to participate in 2 class action suits myself! It was a horrible place to work for, but luckily I loved the job. I now work for a GREAT school (http://ellis.nyit.edu) where the company cares about students and employees.

That's all I have time for now, but I could tell you a few stories.
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#12 UPDATE EX-employee responds

AIU IS in trouble

AUTHOR: Nicole - (U.S.A.)

I worked for AIU for over 2 years as an admissions advisor, senior advisor, admissions specialist... all the same thing, basically. AIU has been on a probation status since the end of 2005. Before that, they were on a 'warning' status. By the end of 2007, when they are again reviewed, they will have had three years to get their act together. They are on PROBATION, the most serious sanction, because of: integrity, program content, governance and administration...the list goes on. Click here and read it from SACS yourselves: http://www.sacscoc.org/disclosure/dec2006/American%20InterContinental%20U.pdf.

There are numerous lawsuits against CEC (Career Education Corp), AIU's parent company. Career Education Corporation operates over 80 private colleges and universities around the world (Le Cordon Bleu, IADT, CTU, ect). They are raking in the dough from all those other schools, so they probably don't give a rat's ass if AIU does go down. Many senior management has jumped ship, and I work for another online school with an office based in Chicago and I have seen a few Directors of Admission from AIU interviewing here recently! I was asked to participate in 2 class action suits myself! It was a horrible place to work for, but luckily I loved the job. I now work for a GREAT school (http://ellis.nyit.edu) where the company cares about students and employees.

That's all I have time for now, but I could tell you a few stories.
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#13 UPDATE EX-employee responds

AIU IS in trouble

AUTHOR: Nicole - (U.S.A.)

I worked for AIU for over 2 years as an admissions advisor, senior advisor, admissions specialist... all the same thing, basically. AIU has been on a probation status since the end of 2005. Before that, they were on a 'warning' status. By the end of 2007, when they are again reviewed, they will have had three years to get their act together. They are on PROBATION, the most serious sanction, because of: integrity, program content, governance and administration...the list goes on. Click here and read it from SACS yourselves: http://www.sacscoc.org/disclosure/dec2006/American%20InterContinental%20U.pdf.

There are numerous lawsuits against CEC (Career Education Corp), AIU's parent company. Career Education Corporation operates over 80 private colleges and universities around the world (Le Cordon Bleu, IADT, CTU, ect). They are raking in the dough from all those other schools, so they probably don't give a rat's ass if AIU does go down. Many senior management has jumped ship, and I work for another online school with an office based in Chicago and I have seen a few Directors of Admission from AIU interviewing here recently! I was asked to participate in 2 class action suits myself! It was a horrible place to work for, but luckily I loved the job. I now work for a GREAT school (http://ellis.nyit.edu) where the company cares about students and employees.

That's all I have time for now, but I could tell you a few stories.
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#14 UPDATE EX-employee responds

AIU IS in trouble

AUTHOR: Nicole - (U.S.A.)

I worked for AIU for over 2 years as an admissions advisor, senior advisor, admissions specialist... all the same thing, basically. AIU has been on a probation status since the end of 2005. Before that, they were on a 'warning' status. By the end of 2007, when they are again reviewed, they will have had three years to get their act together. They are on PROBATION, the most serious sanction, because of: integrity, program content, governance and administration...the list goes on. Click here and read it from SACS yourselves: http://www.sacscoc.org/disclosure/dec2006/American%20InterContinental%20U.pdf.

There are numerous lawsuits against CEC (Career Education Corp), AIU's parent company. Career Education Corporation operates over 80 private colleges and universities around the world (Le Cordon Bleu, IADT, CTU, ect). They are raking in the dough from all those other schools, so they probably don't give a rat's ass if AIU does go down. Many senior management has jumped ship, and I work for another online school with an office based in Chicago and I have seen a few Directors of Admission from AIU interviewing here recently! I was asked to participate in 2 class action suits myself! It was a horrible place to work for, but luckily I loved the job. I now work for a GREAT school (http://ellis.nyit.edu) where the company cares about students and employees.

That's all I have time for now, but I could tell you a few stories.
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#15 Consumer Comment

Update, information and links

AUTHOR: Becky - (U.S.A.)

All of the below information was found during a routine Google search using key words American InterContinental University probation in the search bar. It is readily available to anyone who has internet access and wants to take the time to look.

The major online articles that I found concerning the story: Please note the source before deciding on the reliability of the information. I have included what I have found, including information on some true degree mill scams and how to avoid them from Get Educated.Com. Some of them are positive, some are negative, some are informative, and a couple of them are slightly speculative (given the lack of official publication of some of the reasons cited).

There is a list of Universities and Colleges covered by the same accreditation organization and if you want to take the time to go through that list, you will find that there are several others that have been cited for failure to meet some of the requirements--- perhaps some that you might recognize from your own neighborhood. It could surprise you! This information is found in part in the first link directly below (Inside Higher Ed) and in the

http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2005/12/14/southern
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/060117/20060117006385.html?.v=1
http://www.mcall.com/business/local/all-college307mar07,0,7186103.story
http://www.aacrao.org/transcript/index.cfm?fuseaction=show_view&doc_id=2985
http://searchchicago.suntimes.com/jobs/stories/cst-fin-career07.html
http://www.oregonlive.com/business/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/business/1133934924264580.xml&coll=7
http://www.chicagobusiness.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?id=13058
http://www.chicagobusiness.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?id=18785
http://www.geteducated.com/vug/vug012406.asp
http://www.geteducated.com/articles/degreemills.asp
http://www.geteducated.com/featured/undergrad.asp

For information directly from the Commission on Colleges Southern Association of Colleges and Schools (the accreditation entity involved who has initiated the probationary period) including the precise wordings of the sections in question, research may be done at these web pages:

http://www.sacscoc.org/disclosure/dec2005/American%20InterContinental%20U.pdf
http://www.sacscoc.org/pdf/PrinciplesOfAccreditation.PDF
http://www.sacscoc.org/pdf/Sanction.PDF

For ease of finding some of the sections (it is a 44 page document in PDF and quite long in any case) I have included specific page references from the Principles of Accreditation PDF. The first page number refers to the counter at the bottom of the PDF screen frame and the text page number is the page number used in the original text:

Core Requirements
2.7.2, 2.7.8 (page 20 of 44 on the PDF page counter or text page 16)
Comprehensive Standards
3.2.7, 3.2.8 (page 25 of 44 or text bottom of page 21)
3.3.1 (page 26 of 44 or text middle of page 22)
3.4.4, 3.4.5, 3.4.6, 3.4.10, 3.4.11, 3.4.12 (page 27 of 44 or text page 23)
Federal Requirements
4.3 (typo in previous posting as 4.5), 4.5, and 4.6 (page 35 of 44 or text page 31)

Hopefully this will shed some light on the areas of breakdown in diligence by AIU that they are working to correct during the probationary period for those who feel a need for more information. As a student of the university who has gone through many of the areas in question, I would hazard a guess at some of the issues if that was proper, however I think that one last article does point out some of the issues that I saw coming specifically into the Associate's program at AIU. I spoke quite clearly to several people about them and insisted on answers.

My personal issues were resolved through my diligence in finding the people who were able to resolve them. It seems that some others did not find the same results according to this article. Maybe there are others who are not as able to make their voice heard. For them I hope that this probation will help to shake things up enough to mend some of the practices that are not helpful in order that a beneficial and valuable experience will be available in the future for others without them.
http://chronicle.com/free/v52/i19/19a02101.htm

As for anyone who is a fellow classmate at AIU; if you know me from class, you likely know that I do not often keep silent. If anyone has an issue I encourage you to speak out and communicate respectfully but firmly- repeatedly if necessary until you find the right person. As most of you know from life experience, it is the squeaky wheel that gets the oil and that is no different in a doctor's office, at a customer service desk at the local department store, in the court systems of our country, or in the workplace. All of my concerns have been addressed in some way to my eventual satisfaction. It is a rare individual who actually enjoys making someone else's life miserable or difficult.

If you want someone to help you speak out and have a valid concern (as I said before---not just making noise), I would be happy to help you in making sure your voice is heard in any way I can. And I am not the only one. I am just a student like you, but we are paying for the services of our multiple advisors, professors, technical support, financial aid technicians, etc. and have a right to having our concerns addressed in a reasonably prompt, courteous, honest and professional manner. Along with that right comes a responsibility to speak out in like manner and provide the needed information to help get the matter resolved.

In light of this further information, especially that from the final article, I would like to say that while I (with my tendency to fight for whatever I feel I need to succeed) will maintain that I am so far getting what I have paid for and I believe that many of my classmates are similarly getting what they are paying for. I will concede that there seems to be some pretty strong feelings that not everyone is having the same experience. Therefore I will modify my previous blanket statements to reflect that not all interactions are as fulfilling as mine have been.

Hopefully, in the spirit of the promises made, the university will strive to make things right for those who feel that they have been wronged and in the future those in charge will do the best they can to remedy the problems and maintain ethical standards. We will see. By December the verdict will be in and in the meantime we will watch and wait. As for the professors and advisors that have been there for me, thank you and I wish you the best in your efforts to correct any of these issues that might be in your realm of responsibility to deal with.

One final thought to leave you with: the newest news that I could find was from just a couple of weeks ago and may provide something good to end with. It seems there will be some new folks in charge who hopefully will be able to help. http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/060306/education_management_mover.html?.v=1

Thank you to the site administrator for allowing this forum for the expression of fears and concerns and for the opportunity to address them in a respectful manner. Sharing information and getting to the truth of any matter is important and many voices are lost in the crowd without it.
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Inquiry Concerning Motivation and My Comments

AUTHOR: Becky - (U.S.A.)

I am wondering if the person initially filing this report was actually "ripped off" by the University. It seems to me that the tone of the initial posting and the responses by the initiator are quite belligerent in tone. Name-calling is a potential form of slander and for someone to be taken seriously as an intelligent and reasonable person (rather than just someone trying to make a noise) it is much more sensible to refrain from both personal and inflammatory discourse.

There is one clear point that seems to be agreed upon in this line of discussion. That is that the school is on probation. What does that mean? If the full texts of the internet postings that I have been able so far to review is to be taken into account, it merely means that in the future the AIU MAY lose accreditation in the future IF they are not able to comply with the requirements of the accrediting agency. That does not mean that anyone who was previously or is currently enrolled is even at risk for losing anything that they AGREED to pay for as long as their program is completed before the end of the probationary period. Once that period is over, students who are still enrolled may have cause for concern only if the university has not met the requirements or satisfied the agency in whatever ways are provided.

AIU is providing the service it is being paid to provide. I don't believe that at this time anyone can honestly accuse the University Rip-off" or scam. People are paying and have in the past paid for a degree that is accredited. They have (if they did the work involved to earn it) gotten what they paid for. The school is currently authorized to do what they are doing by the proper authority and people are counseled concerning cost. Loan companies are aware of the University and feel confident enough to continue participating so they are not being deceived in any way.

Please understand--- I have come from situations of both failure and success in other settings and recognize what might have been a failure of the system and what might have been a personal failure to perform. As both a traditional student of other Colleges and Universities and a technical school that are among some of the best in the state and the country I have had a wide variety of experiences as a student. Working in the public schools, I have had a variety of experiences as an educator. In attempting to meet guidelines of government agencies, I am familiar with the paperwork, the huge amount of detail and the changes that can occur over time as requirements and standards evolve.

I recognize that no one is perfect and that there is always room for improvement. That does not excuse complacency in the face of a known deficiency but should allow for a person or organization to have the time allowed by the system to improve and correct those deficiencies.

As a current student of AIU, I feel that this posting is inflammatory in nature and does not represent a valid claim as far as the details that have been released to the present time. I have had an overall positive experience and been able to find success in getting a degree that otherwise would have been impossible with the other demands on my time as a full time employee and single parent of four. I feel that the university has been attentive whenever I have raised concerns about any aspect of my education. I have found the work to be challenging and appropriately similar to what I was required to do in other settings.

100,000 students in several countries around the world are enrolled in the programs affected by this probation. AIU and the accreditation agency have a heavy responsibility as well as the motivation to succeed in achieving compliance. Whatever the details of the current situation might be, they are being addressed by the appropriate authority.
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#17 UPDATE Employee

Furthermore...

AUTHOR: B. - (U.S.A.)

Not only does the title claim we our losing our accreditation, the body of the original entry claims our accreditation has been "suspended." Both are false and merit unambiguous refuation. As I stated before, we remain a fully accredited institution, as can be verified by SASCSCOC.
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#18 UPDATE Employee

Furthermore...

AUTHOR: B. - (U.S.A.)

Not only does the title claim we our losing our accreditation, the body of the original entry claims our accreditation has been "suspended." Both are false and merit unambiguous refuation. As I stated before, we remain a fully accredited institution, as can be verified by SASCSCOC.
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#19 Consumer Comment

Can read just fine

AUTHOR: Martin - (U.S.A.)

To quote you "our accreditation has neither been suspended nor revoked". No It hasn't but you are on Probation thats the issue. Quit skirting the it and try writing something thats relevant to the original post.

Now I know the title of the first post did say losing your accreditation but if you read the post he doesn't say that. And his source references are more informative than just a phone#.

My comprehension and reasoning skills are working just fine. And why would I want to sign up with a school with employees that can't or won't answer a simple question.Its spinmiesters like you that cloud the issue with irrelevent and inane comments.

And to say what he wrote is almost libelous is idiotic. You don't know if you will lose your accreditation or not. Thats something we'll have to wait and see.

He never said lost he said losing two different meanings. So again why won't you write something that is about your probation and not moronic comments about nothing.
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#20 UPDATE Employee

Evidently you DON'T know how to read...

AUTHOR: B. - (U.S.A.)

...or you would have noticed that my reply not only never claims "there is nothing the school is doing wrong" but actually acknowledges there ARE issues currently facing the university. It even supplies a primary-source reference for further review of those issues. Maybe you should sign up for some classes with us. It appears your comprehension and critical reasoning skills could use the kind of brush-up that a quality educational experience provides.

My comment addresses the title of this thread because a) a lot of information is packed into that title, and b) a critical piece of that information was flat-out false to the point of being libelous and thus required refutation.
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#21 Consumer Comment

I know how to read

AUTHOR: Martin - (U.S.A.)

Instead of writing about the title of the thread why don't you try answering what it was about.Namely that your school is on probation.According to your comment there is nothing the school is doing wrong.Not once has anybody who works for the company addressed that question here.
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#22 UPDATE Employee

Learn to read.

AUTHOR: B. - (U.S.A.)

"Nowhere in my post did I say they lost their accredidation."

The title of this thread claims AIU is losing its accreditation. My response was that it's not true. Your response is that it *is* true. So yes, your thread implies that AIU is losing its accreditation, which it is NOT. Maybe you should actually read what you're responding to -- chances are it will make your responses more accurate and you won't imply things you don't mean to imply.
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#23 Consumer Suggestion

Probation Concerns

AUTHOR: Bobby - (U.S.A.)

Folks,
I am alumni of AIU Online. I too had concerns about whether or not my degree would be valid. After checking the Department of Ed. and contacting the Dean, I am happy to say that my research concluded in a positive way.

I have nothing to worry about. Although AIU is in probation now, it would NOT affect any students that have either graduated or any students that are currently a student. In fact, the only way you should not pursue AIU if the school completely looses its Accreditation.

Your loans would not be affected and you will still have a valuable degree. It scared me but I am relieved after my research. Thank you for letting me so that I could research this matter.

AIU Alumni
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#24 Consumer Comment

AIU Online

AUTHOR: Steve - (U.S.A.)

For response to the last post in this thread: http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff168619.htm

SACS Disclosure Statement issued on December 14, 2005 clearly states that the sanctions imposed affect ALL COMPONENTS OF THE INSTITUTION, including all programs, branch campuses, off-campus sites and distance learning programs.

It is contained in the first paragraph heading of "what is the accreditation status of AIU?" located at: http://www.sacscoc.org, third bullet on the home page.

Facts people, facts....
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#25 Consumer Comment

Placed on Probation for a reason.

AUTHOR: Martin - (U.S.A.)

Nowhere in my post did I say they lost their accredidation.But they are doing something wrong.They don't place Probation on a university for no reason.And to say another well known university was placed on Probation,doesn't take away from the fact that AIU is and will be on Probation until Dec.2006.Why is it so hard for the employees of AIU to admit that their company is on Probation.I guess because if you deny something long enough maybe it will go away.Or you figure if you put out enough misinformation people won't know the truth from fiction.
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#26 Consumer Comment

Placed on Probation for a reason.

AUTHOR: Martin - (U.S.A.)

Nowhere in my post did I say they lost their accredidation.But they are doing something wrong.They don't place Probation on a university for no reason.And to say another well known university was placed on Probation,doesn't take away from the fact that AIU is and will be on Probation until Dec.2006.Why is it so hard for the employees of AIU to admit that their company is on Probation.I guess because if you deny something long enough maybe it will go away.Or you figure if you put out enough misinformation people won't know the truth from fiction.
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#27 Consumer Comment

Placed on Probation for a reason.

AUTHOR: Martin - (U.S.A.)

Nowhere in my post did I say they lost their accredidation.But they are doing something wrong.They don't place Probation on a university for no reason.And to say another well known university was placed on Probation,doesn't take away from the fact that AIU is and will be on Probation until Dec.2006.Why is it so hard for the employees of AIU to admit that their company is on Probation.I guess because if you deny something long enough maybe it will go away.Or you figure if you put out enough misinformation people won't know the truth from fiction.
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#28 Consumer Comment

Placed on Probation for a reason.

AUTHOR: Martin - (U.S.A.)

Nowhere in my post did I say they lost their accredidation.But they are doing something wrong.They don't place Probation on a university for no reason.And to say another well known university was placed on Probation,doesn't take away from the fact that AIU is and will be on Probation until Dec.2006.Why is it so hard for the employees of AIU to admit that their company is on Probation.I guess because if you deny something long enough maybe it will go away.Or you figure if you put out enough misinformation people won't know the truth from fiction.
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#29 Consumer Comment

AIU's University System Remains Accredited

AUTHOR: Dani - (U.S.A.)

I find these posts interesting as many appear to jump on the bandwagon without ever doing the necessary research to support their claims about AIU's accredidation.

FIRST, AIU Online is one of "seven" campuses within the American Intercontinental University system. Each campus is accredited by SACS (Southern Association of Colleges & Schools). SACS has requested the ENTIRE University system make revisions. SACS is not focused on one indicidual campus--but developed the list changes after reviewing all seven campuses.

SECOND, American Intercontinental University is not the only well known institution to be placed on an probationary status by their accrediting bodies. Even the very well-known schools such as Auburn University was placed on probation in 2003. Past the following in your browser for more details:
http://www.ocm.auburn.edu/scripts/archives03/12-8.html

Last, but not least, each campus within the University system reamins accredidted. Placing an institution on warning or a probationary status does no remove their accredidation.

Please--do your research!
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#30 Consumer Comment

It's true.. AIU was placed on probation for failing to demonstrate compliance with the Prologue to Principals of Accreditation

AUTHOR: Martin - (U.S.A.)

Just not true.You must not know much about your company. AIU is on probation. And according to their web site "probation is the Commision's most serious saction".And you wonder why they were placed there? I will quote from their disclosure statement regarding the status of AIU. AIU was placed on probation for failing to demonstrate compliance with the Prologue to Principals of Accreditation:(Integrity of student academic records and accuracy in recruiting and admission practices).Core Requirement 2.7.2(Program Content),Core Requirement 2.8(Faculty),Comprehensive Standard 3.2.7(Governance and Administration),Comprehensive Standard 3.2.8 (Governance and Administration),Comprehensive Stadard3.3.1(Institutional Effectiveness),Comprehensive Standard3.4.4,3.4.5,3.4. 6,3.4.10,3.4. 11,3. 4.12(All Educational Programs),Federal Requirement 4.6 (Information to Consumers),Federal Requirement4.5(Student Complaint Procedures)and Federal Requirement 4.6 (Accuracy in recruitment materials and presentations).And they're on Probation until December 2006.This statement was issued December 14,2005,by the Commission of Colleges. So who's lying, A report from the Commission on Colleges Southern Association of Colleges and Schools. Or are we to believe B from Chicago who works for the company.I know who I believe.And it's not some company stooge trying to cover for the inept and inferior school he works for.If you would like to read it for yourself go to: http://www.sacscoc.org ,There is more information about AIU's probation on their site.
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#31 UPDATE Employee

Just not true

AUTHOR: B. - (U.S.A.)

Sorry, that's just a flat-out lie. AIU has not lost nor is it in the process of losing its accreditation. We remain a fully accredited institution under the guidelines set forth by the Commission on Colleges of the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools. Our accreditation has neither been suspended (as implied in this report) nor revoked. If you wish to verify for yourself, you can contact SACSOC at (404) 679-4500.

We have had our share of recent problems, publicized both here and in the media, and which can be read in detail on SACSOC's website. I'm not going to bother trying to spin any of those reports; I'll let people read and make up their own minds. But neither will I countenance people lying about our accreditation status.
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