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  • Submitted: Mon, June 16, 2008
  • Updated: Wed, February 27, 2013

  • Reported By:Indio California
APX Alarm
5132 North 300 West Provo, Utah United States of America

APX Alarm REVIEW: Commitment to customer satisfaction. APX protects customers throughout the united states and canada, Security and satisfaction are number one concern! Provo Utah
*UPDATE:Recognized by Rip-off Report Corporate Advocacy Program as a safe business service . APX Alarm pledges to always resolve any issues, feel safe, confident & secure when doing business with APX Alarm. Ripoff Report Verified

*Author of original report: Update on Cancellation of Contract with APX ALARM

*Author of original report: Update on Cancellation of Contract with APX ALARM

*Author of original report: Update on Cancellation of Contract with APX ALARM

*Author of original report: Update on Cancellation of Contract with APX ALARM

*Consumer Comment: I'd forgotten some of the things you mentioned

*Consumer Comment: I'd forgotten some of the things you mentioned

*Consumer Comment: I'd forgotten some of the things you mentioned

*Consumer Comment: I'd forgotten some of the things you mentioned

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EDitors UPDATE: Positive rating and recognition has been given to APX Alarm for its commitment to excellence in customer service.

Ripoff Reports discussions with the company have uncovered an ongoing commitment to total customer satisfaction. You can expect to have any questions or concerns that you have with them to be answered and resolved in a timely manner. They have shown us their customer service process, and it reflects a desire to serve customers, as well as fix problems.

The company's management specifically told us about how their job is to simplify lives and help people to live intelligently. The management really wants every person who buys a system to feel valued. The concern for each customer's experience starts at the top, and is reflected in the action of every employee they hire.

The company also works to monitor their sales and customer support calls to see how they can be improved. They use these calls as examples for employees in training. Currently, Vivint is working to make changes to their contracts to make things easier for their customers as they have found that many of their complaints stem from feeling misled or customers paid fees they did not feel they authorized.
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Statements from company executives

"We are committed to making homes safe for families. With advanced early detection systems, many home fires are preventable and can be stopped in the beginning stages, saving lives. We have a plan for every family and every budget, and whether you choose our most basic or expanded services, you can be sure of our top quality technology and expert customer support.

STATED IMPROVEMENTS FROM THE COMPANY.

We have simplified our customer service process to decrease the amount of time that a customer has to wait before speaking with a representative. Our customer service will look at your contract, listen to recorded phone calls, and make sure to get to the bottom of your issue to resolve things THE RIGHT WAY. We want customer's to have a positive experience, and we understand that sometimes customer's fall on hard times. We're willing to work with all of our customers. Their experience and safety are our primary concerns.

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NOW TO THE ORIGINAL REPORT THAT WAS FILED

----------------------------------- APX Alarm Do NOT sign agreement with APX Alarm Provo Utah

TWIMC:

I must tell you of my experience with APX Alarm - it is definitely not an unique experience according to the many negative comments on the web.

Friday June 13, 2008 7:25 PM

Dustin knocked on my door. He was a clean cut college aged kid wearing a blue APX Alarm logo shirt and shorts, showing an ID clipped to his belt. He had business cards. He looked official and upstanding. That's about as far as I can go with positive feedback.

The following dialogue may not be verbatim, but it's close to what I remember and it will give important facts on why I don't (and you shouldn't) ever want service from APX Alarm.

Dustin: Hi, my name is Dustin from APX Alarm. Me: Hi. (wondering why I even opened the door) Dustin: I see you have an Alliance Protection sticker in your window. Me: Yes, I have an active monitoring service with Alliance that I am happy with. Dustin: Do you have VOIP? Because if a burglar were to cut your phone lines, your alarm will not work. (typical scare tactic) Me: (knowing the previous comment was a scare tactic) Yes, I have Time Warner Cable's package with phone, cable, and web. I also realize that if my phone lines were cut ( I'd like to see statistics on burglaries where this actually happens), my alarm may not call the monitoring company, but it will still activate the audible alert. Dustin: Well, what I can do for you will help you out in that situation. I'm the Director of Advertising, and we're looking for customers to help us out in this neighborhood. Do you know your neighbors, Paul and Sally, who live just around the corner?, they've already agreed to use the service I'm about to tell you about. We will install a new keypad and an analog cell phone system that will call APX alarm in the event that your phone line is cut, and we'll do it for free, all you have to do is display a lighted sign in your front yard as advertising for us. Then we can send out sales team around to your neighbors and they'll see that you have our service already. Most people go with a familiar alarm company. Me: That sounds interesting, what's the catch? Dustin: You have to display the sign and agree to our monitoring service for three years. Me: I'm under contract with Alliance until September. Dustin: That's ok, we'll buy out your contract. Me: Alright. Come in, let me look at your paperwork. (big mistake on my part)

He proceeds to fill me on some details, (monthly monitoring service at $44.99 per month for 36 months) writes up the contract and then gets somebody on the phone to verify information I gave him. After very carefully reading the cancellation clause of the contract, I signed the agreement. Paperwork complete. At this point I am very hesitant to do anything more, but I did.

Dustin: I have two technicians right around the corner finishing up Paul and Sally's installation. They can be here in a few minutes. Me: It's really not a good time for me, I need to bathe my one year old daughter and put her to bed. Can we do this on Monday? Dustin: No, we're only in the area this week. Me: (reluctant, but) ok, fine. What about the contract buyout with Alliance? Dustin: I don't have a company check. (he reaches into his wallet and pulls out $80) Will this cover it? Me: Not really, I have at least three months left at $32.99. Dustin: That's all I have, are you sure? Me: ok (I reluctantly take the cash)

Dustin calls his technicians (who are at my door in what seems like 10 seconds) . They (two clean cut college aged kids wearing blue APX Alarm logo shirts and shorts) looked official and upstanding. They were wearing tool belts and brought 5 gallon pails with tools and equipment. I held them up at my front door to ask a few more technical questions then reluctantly let them into my house and showed them the wiring box, they began tearing apart the wiring of my existing system to begin their installation. Dustin leaves.

Then, I log on and search the web "APX Alarm scam" HOLY CRAP!!!! I was alarmed (no pun intended) at the amount of negative comments on various websites about this whole ordeal. Just google "APX alarm" with or without "scam" and you'll see what I mean. Did I say HOLY CRAP!!!!

After reading a posted comment, I decided enough was enough and called Dustin.

Dustin: Hello Me: Hi Dustin, I did a google search on APX Alarm and I see tons of negative information about your company. What's the deal? Dustin: Are you sure you didn't search APEX Alarm? I've heard of them before. Me: No, I searched APX Alarm. I can type. I need your guys to stop installation and put my system back together. Dustin: Ok fine - I'll stop by and get my $80 back. Me: Please hurry. Dustin: ok bye.

I went over to the technicians and told them to stop and put my system back together. The cancellation clause of the contract states the agreement will not be binding unless 1) it is signed by a APX supervisor or 2) they start the monitoring service.

One of their phones rings - It must have been Dustin. "Hello. yeah. ok. ok. bye."

After about an hour of them fumbling around with the wiring, one of the technicians (I think his name was Johnny) said he couldn't get it back together, but APX Alarm would cover the costs for Alliance to repair it. I really hope this happens. I've yet to get confirmation of this.

After they all left, I did more research.

There was no Paul or Sally in my neighborhood (I searched the surrounding blocks, no APX Alarm signs anywhere to be found) Paul and Sally, huh? right. $44.99 per month over a 36 month period will more than cover the costs of the "free" equipment they would have installed. Nothing is free!! Dustin was from Arizona, Johnny was from Minnesota, and the other technician was from the midwest somewhere. Company stability? No company check to buy out existing contract? Offered me cash? Cash IS king, but come on. Offer not available except for right then? Typical example of bad deal.

These are all red flags I should have caught on to earlier, but I didn't until the various websites opened my eyes. I wanted the technology. I wanted it now. Instant gratification.

I just hope I can get my system back to working condition without cost.

Bottom Line: Don't sign an agreement with APX Alarm unless you get the free equipment and the monthly monitoring is under $35 per month for 36 months. Even then, I'd be hesitant.

Mack's Daddy Indio, California
U.S.A.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 06/16/2008 11:20 AM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/APX-Alarm/Provo-Utah-84604/APX-Alarm-REVIEW-Commitment-to-customer-satisfaction-APX-protects-customers-throughout-t-340673. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 Author of original report

Update on Cancellation of Contract with APX ALARM

AUTHOR: Mack's Daddy - (U.S.A.)

Hi Greg,

I was successful in cancelling our contract in three business days, here's what I did:
1) signed the cancellation (Item #5) of the agreement
2) pdf'd it and e-mailed to customer support
3) faxed it twice to different numbers
4) sent original via FedEx overnight

I doubt that all of this was necessary, but after reading all these posts, I couldn't afford to take any chances. For any other consumer out there, I would recommend doing no less that what I did, you cannot take chances or make assumptions with this company.

I called today - dude told me account was indeed cancelled, so I'm off the hook. THANK YOU!!

Also, no debit charged to my card. THANK YOU AGAIN!!! I'm very thankful I don't have to close and change accounts and all that jazz.

After first being told they would not pay for my existing system to be repaired, I've talked them into paying for it as long as I give them a quote first. It wasn't easy, I had to argue with the home damage department, which brings up another question. There is enough activity for company to have an entire department dedicated to home damage?

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Update on Cancellation of Contract with APX ALARM

AUTHOR: Mack's Daddy - (U.S.A.)

Hi Greg,

I was successful in cancelling our contract in three business days, here's what I did:
1) signed the cancellation (Item #5) of the agreement
2) pdf'd it and e-mailed to customer support
3) faxed it twice to different numbers
4) sent original via FedEx overnight

I doubt that all of this was necessary, but after reading all these posts, I couldn't afford to take any chances. For any other consumer out there, I would recommend doing no less that what I did, you cannot take chances or make assumptions with this company.

I called today - dude told me account was indeed cancelled, so I'm off the hook. THANK YOU!!

Also, no debit charged to my card. THANK YOU AGAIN!!! I'm very thankful I don't have to close and change accounts and all that jazz.

After first being told they would not pay for my existing system to be repaired, I've talked them into paying for it as long as I give them a quote first. It wasn't easy, I had to argue with the home damage department, which brings up another question. There is enough activity for company to have an entire department dedicated to home damage?

RED FLAG!!!
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#3 Author of original report

Update on Cancellation of Contract with APX ALARM

AUTHOR: Mack's Daddy - (U.S.A.)

Hi Greg,

I was successful in cancelling our contract in three business days, here's what I did:
1) signed the cancellation (Item #5) of the agreement
2) pdf'd it and e-mailed to customer support
3) faxed it twice to different numbers
4) sent original via FedEx overnight

I doubt that all of this was necessary, but after reading all these posts, I couldn't afford to take any chances. For any other consumer out there, I would recommend doing no less that what I did, you cannot take chances or make assumptions with this company.

I called today - dude told me account was indeed cancelled, so I'm off the hook. THANK YOU!!

Also, no debit charged to my card. THANK YOU AGAIN!!! I'm very thankful I don't have to close and change accounts and all that jazz.

After first being told they would not pay for my existing system to be repaired, I've talked them into paying for it as long as I give them a quote first. It wasn't easy, I had to argue with the home damage department, which brings up another question. There is enough activity for company to have an entire department dedicated to home damage?

RED FLAG!!!
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#4 Author of original report

Update on Cancellation of Contract with APX ALARM

AUTHOR: Mack's Daddy - (U.S.A.)

Hi Greg,

I was successful in cancelling our contract in three business days, here's what I did:
1) signed the cancellation (Item #5) of the agreement
2) pdf'd it and e-mailed to customer support
3) faxed it twice to different numbers
4) sent original via FedEx overnight

I doubt that all of this was necessary, but after reading all these posts, I couldn't afford to take any chances. For any other consumer out there, I would recommend doing no less that what I did, you cannot take chances or make assumptions with this company.

I called today - dude told me account was indeed cancelled, so I'm off the hook. THANK YOU!!

Also, no debit charged to my card. THANK YOU AGAIN!!! I'm very thankful I don't have to close and change accounts and all that jazz.

After first being told they would not pay for my existing system to be repaired, I've talked them into paying for it as long as I give them a quote first. It wasn't easy, I had to argue with the home damage department, which brings up another question. There is enough activity for company to have an entire department dedicated to home damage?

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#5 Consumer Comment

I'd forgotten some of the things you mentioned

AUTHOR: Greg - (U.S.A.)

Hello Mack's Daddy,

Good write-up! There are things I'd totally forgotten about such as the break-in's that occured at so-n-so's down the road. Or the phone lines being cut (I too have TWC's All in One package).

I feel like such a dope for not researching first. I ALWAYS do that. In hindsight, we should have pulled out the wireless laptop and right in front of the salesman Google APX/APEX.

I love his comment about Apex. That's a whole different company who's name APX stole and used. That company has a site, which is nothing fancy, but if you find the site, he too is suing APX and looking for stories such as ours.

I didn't cancel quite as soon as you did but I did it the next day. Now they're saying I reversed the cancellation and have a recording of me saying so. Who knows what I said to the fool who called me. I was in the middle of yardwork and just wanted off the phone. I look at it this way, even if I DID sound like I would be willing to keep the service, nothing is in writing except the original contract signed by myself and the salesman. And if they DID record my conversation, they did it without asking me or informing me.

I have written more accounts of this fiasco at more websites than I can recall. This weekend I'm going to put the alarm through it's paces and capture it all on miniDV and post it to YouTube. As it is, when we set it at night, it says, "ARMED. STAY. LEAVE NOW" WTH is that all about?

If you've read my complain, the one below yours, you'll see what we went through and the fact I had to cancel my checking account and start a new one to prevent them from taking another months service. Which reminds me, check your bank account my friend. They now have your info and I'll bet you anything they've already taken out $44.99...and will continue to do so. It's documented in complaints I found on the net that this is something else they do.

I hope you get your alarm repaired but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for APX to pay for it. Your existing alarm company can fix it and if you're savvy they may offer you a better deal.

BTW, I was NEVER offered a 36 month contract. Just 5 years.
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#6 Consumer Comment

I'd forgotten some of the things you mentioned

AUTHOR: Greg - (U.S.A.)

Hello Mack's Daddy,

Good write-up! There are things I'd totally forgotten about such as the break-in's that occured at so-n-so's down the road. Or the phone lines being cut (I too have TWC's All in One package).

I feel like such a dope for not researching first. I ALWAYS do that. In hindsight, we should have pulled out the wireless laptop and right in front of the salesman Google APX/APEX.

I love his comment about Apex. That's a whole different company who's name APX stole and used. That company has a site, which is nothing fancy, but if you find the site, he too is suing APX and looking for stories such as ours.

I didn't cancel quite as soon as you did but I did it the next day. Now they're saying I reversed the cancellation and have a recording of me saying so. Who knows what I said to the fool who called me. I was in the middle of yardwork and just wanted off the phone. I look at it this way, even if I DID sound like I would be willing to keep the service, nothing is in writing except the original contract signed by myself and the salesman. And if they DID record my conversation, they did it without asking me or informing me.

I have written more accounts of this fiasco at more websites than I can recall. This weekend I'm going to put the alarm through it's paces and capture it all on miniDV and post it to YouTube. As it is, when we set it at night, it says, "ARMED. STAY. LEAVE NOW" WTH is that all about?

If you've read my complain, the one below yours, you'll see what we went through and the fact I had to cancel my checking account and start a new one to prevent them from taking another months service. Which reminds me, check your bank account my friend. They now have your info and I'll bet you anything they've already taken out $44.99...and will continue to do so. It's documented in complaints I found on the net that this is something else they do.

I hope you get your alarm repaired but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for APX to pay for it. Your existing alarm company can fix it and if you're savvy they may offer you a better deal.

BTW, I was NEVER offered a 36 month contract. Just 5 years.
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#7 Consumer Comment

I'd forgotten some of the things you mentioned

AUTHOR: Greg - (U.S.A.)

Hello Mack's Daddy,

Good write-up! There are things I'd totally forgotten about such as the break-in's that occured at so-n-so's down the road. Or the phone lines being cut (I too have TWC's All in One package).

I feel like such a dope for not researching first. I ALWAYS do that. In hindsight, we should have pulled out the wireless laptop and right in front of the salesman Google APX/APEX.

I love his comment about Apex. That's a whole different company who's name APX stole and used. That company has a site, which is nothing fancy, but if you find the site, he too is suing APX and looking for stories such as ours.

I didn't cancel quite as soon as you did but I did it the next day. Now they're saying I reversed the cancellation and have a recording of me saying so. Who knows what I said to the fool who called me. I was in the middle of yardwork and just wanted off the phone. I look at it this way, even if I DID sound like I would be willing to keep the service, nothing is in writing except the original contract signed by myself and the salesman. And if they DID record my conversation, they did it without asking me or informing me.

I have written more accounts of this fiasco at more websites than I can recall. This weekend I'm going to put the alarm through it's paces and capture it all on miniDV and post it to YouTube. As it is, when we set it at night, it says, "ARMED. STAY. LEAVE NOW" WTH is that all about?

If you've read my complain, the one below yours, you'll see what we went through and the fact I had to cancel my checking account and start a new one to prevent them from taking another months service. Which reminds me, check your bank account my friend. They now have your info and I'll bet you anything they've already taken out $44.99...and will continue to do so. It's documented in complaints I found on the net that this is something else they do.

I hope you get your alarm repaired but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for APX to pay for it. Your existing alarm company can fix it and if you're savvy they may offer you a better deal.

BTW, I was NEVER offered a 36 month contract. Just 5 years.
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#8 Consumer Comment

I'd forgotten some of the things you mentioned

AUTHOR: Greg - (U.S.A.)

Hello Mack's Daddy,

Good write-up! There are things I'd totally forgotten about such as the break-in's that occured at so-n-so's down the road. Or the phone lines being cut (I too have TWC's All in One package).

I feel like such a dope for not researching first. I ALWAYS do that. In hindsight, we should have pulled out the wireless laptop and right in front of the salesman Google APX/APEX.

I love his comment about Apex. That's a whole different company who's name APX stole and used. That company has a site, which is nothing fancy, but if you find the site, he too is suing APX and looking for stories such as ours.

I didn't cancel quite as soon as you did but I did it the next day. Now they're saying I reversed the cancellation and have a recording of me saying so. Who knows what I said to the fool who called me. I was in the middle of yardwork and just wanted off the phone. I look at it this way, even if I DID sound like I would be willing to keep the service, nothing is in writing except the original contract signed by myself and the salesman. And if they DID record my conversation, they did it without asking me or informing me.

I have written more accounts of this fiasco at more websites than I can recall. This weekend I'm going to put the alarm through it's paces and capture it all on miniDV and post it to YouTube. As it is, when we set it at night, it says, "ARMED. STAY. LEAVE NOW" WTH is that all about?

If you've read my complain, the one below yours, you'll see what we went through and the fact I had to cancel my checking account and start a new one to prevent them from taking another months service. Which reminds me, check your bank account my friend. They now have your info and I'll bet you anything they've already taken out $44.99...and will continue to do so. It's documented in complaints I found on the net that this is something else they do.

I hope you get your alarm repaired but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for APX to pay for it. Your existing alarm company can fix it and if you're savvy they may offer you a better deal.

BTW, I was NEVER offered a 36 month contract. Just 5 years.
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