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Complaint Review: ARABIAN RESCUE MISSION - Internet

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  • Reported By: w.knows88 — NeyJersey New Jersey United States of America
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This Organization is all about the money. They drop horses off on people without helping. At one point they left a horse, Named DQ in a foster barn without even checking on that horse. From what I gather, That horse had died due to poor care. They ask for money all the time. The horses DO NOT see any of those funds. Their place in NJ is nothing but ROCKS and MUD. Trees all over the place. No pasture. Very little shelter except from the Trees.

The stalls in the barn are NASTY. Don't even clean them out of a reg bases. Horses left in Round pens with no shelter. Some were given moldy old type hay. They claim to be a rescue but they only take in ones they know they can make a dollar on. One horses adoption fee was $4000, A buy price was more. This is not rescue. Now they have a barn in KY, That guy that runs that barn  is a liar, and a scam artist.  They are trying to raise money to buy that farm but in fact that barn isn't for sale. DO NOT TRUST ANYONE INVOLVED WITH THIS ORGANIZATION.

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#8 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Well Hello

AUTHOR: tulsaok - (United States of America)

POSTED: Thursday, May 10, 2012

What a surprise to see you here, PoMer, LOL. One would think if you spent more time taking care of your animals then trolling the boards and public forums for "stuff being said about you", you would not have the troubles with animal control and negativity that you do.

As for the NJAG problem, it is on me. I have taken full responsibility for my errors and unlike you, do not call people liars or deny things, when they are public record and are true. 

As for horses being abandoned on you, that's a difficult "victim" to play, when you picked them out, picked them up and brought them to your farm. All you had to do was return them! Problem solved. We even offered to come pick them up but you refused to disclose where you, the horses and your rescue were located, since you gave us a phony address. Why would a rescue hide their location, if they truly had nothing to hide. Your PO boxes even have PO boxes LOL.

And for the record, DQ was never abandoned either. She was a "paying customer" at the QT farm where her health declined. And you picked her up on your way home with 5 other horses in your trailer that were all going south to TN. She was not "unwanted", she had been adopted, then turned back over to ARM the week prior and transferred to your rescue, without knowledge of how bad her health had gotten. She could have come back to ARM at any time and would have, had I known her condition. 

As far as any of your other allegations, I will let them be since most intelligent people will consider the source of where they come. Just like your accusations of the KY manager being a liar and a scam artist. When someone answers an ad for a horse for sale on CL and are brought an emaciated, beat up horse, then how is that a lie. He made you a generous offer for a horse in that shape or any shape in this market. Yet you stated you would not take less then $1300. When he threatened to call the police and AC on you, you ran, literally, ran. So who's the scam artist? And I have the pictures. If you respond, I will post them as well and YOU are in them! 

So, again, I suggest you spend more time taking actual care of your animals then you do on the internet, my dear and perhaps some of your troubles will actually go away. I learn from my mistakes, you should as well :)

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#7 Consumer Comment

Interesting Lies Terry...

AUTHOR: POMER - (USA)

POSTED: Wednesday, May 09, 2012

First off Terry, I am not the one who posted this on this site, Nor am I the one that have posted on the other site you speak of.

You have several people out there that have a lot of negative things to say about you and your "Rescue". And most if not all that is being talked about our rescue in a negative way is all those involved with this organization that have no clue..

For the record Terry, NO My organization didn't " steal" horses as you so claim. Those horses have been abandoned by your "Rescue"

Also for the record, I do know about the DQ, Arabian mare, issue.

She was also abandoned not on my organization but also the neglecting QT barn where she was starved to death.. That mare was bailed out of Camelot auction in NJ in very good weight and health. But several months of being in the hands of Arabian rescue mission, She is now dead. She was starved and neglected. Yes we took that mare in, But not knowing that she would have been just one of several that ARM abandoned on us. When I picked up that mare, I told terry that this mare was not fit to transport. But Terry didn't seem to care. She didn't want the mare. So after I got the horse on the trailer, what was I to do with a horse that no one wanted?? I didn't know that area, It was late in the evening, So what to do? I wasn't able to leave her there were she would just die, I wasn't going to leave her on the side of the road. Terry didn't want that mare at her farm. So Yes I took her as fast as I could to our foster home where she was put to rest as soon as we got there. That was the best thing for that mare after all the suffering that this mare has gone through with this ARM " Rescue" I told terry everything that was going on. Its like she didn't even care. She didn't even offer to pay the euthanizing bill after scanning and emailing the bill to her. That was $100 or so that we used out of our on funding to have that mare put to rest. At least that mare did get a lot of love and attention the last few hours left of her life.

Far as the NJ charges that we towards Arabian rescue mission, Terry. , Those are legit, And yes it was just a slap on the hand, But oh well. That's her doing and had nothing to do with us. Far as donations, Yes We donated a little to this organization to help bail a horse out of auction, But NO we never received a receipt of that donation. It was only for $10 but that should still count for a receipt. But who knows, I'm sure that $10 never went to that horse.

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#6 REBUTTAL Owner of company

About the OP

AUTHOR: tulsaok - (United States of America)

POSTED: Tuesday, May 08, 2012

Actually to answer your question, the OP is the same person who misrepresented herself to the organization, wound up stealing horses from same organization and mistreating those and many more animals. She was exposed by people on the internet and blames the organization for her problems, because they would not stand by her through her public crucifixion. She posted the exact, same comments under newspaper articles when horses were saved by this organization, trying to hurt that huge endeavour they undertook. She also went to www.greaternonprofits.com and posted the same thing there.

The proof is that the same author posted how great her organization is and what wonderful works it does, using the same name even, on that website. Go and read for yourself on that website under both Arabian Rescue Mission and Peace of Mind equine Rescue.  And while there, read the rest of the reviews as they may give you an idea of just how many people have been to our farm, seen our horses and how we have helped.

As for the slap on the wrist by the Attorney General, the $3000 was even waived for both officers and no money ever had to be repaid. The fine was suspended and the restitution of $3000 each waived, since proof of over $20,000 put in out of the officer's pockets was provided. It was ONLY bookkeeping errors. Which answers the question about the relationship between the non-profit and for-profit businesses.

The for-profit business pays ALL expenses for the non-profit for the care of the horses on its property. If and when the non-profit has leftover money, after paying for the medical bills for its horses and the expenses for the herds we rescue all over the country, then it will pay the non-profit board for those horses in its care. Since the average number of horses kept on the property at any given time is 20-25 and the average cost of care for a horse is $150 per month, the total cost to keep the NPO's horses should be around $3000 a month. While, in fact, most times the NPO only gave the for-profit business about $6000 a year. The bookkeeping inconsistencies were that the NPO was not actually invoiced for that $3000 a month. Totally my fault, as I just couldn't see wasting time invoicing what couldn't be paid. So now I do each month religiously. 

So I'm thinking the answer to your question is Mother-Child relationship! While the child may work part-time and give $50 a week for "rent" to the mother, it in no way comes close to the actual expense of housing, feeding, clothing and educating the child. Make sense?

As for the donor who says she never received a receipt for her donations; if they were made by paypal, they are all current. If you did not get a receipt please email me at info@arabianrescuemission.org with the paypal transaction and I will find out why, since we have one person who only does the automated donor receipts and she is up to date at this time. If it was a check mailed to the rescue, then that is my responsibility and I am not current, as I had to get all the paperwork for the Attorney General, which investigation took over 7 months. So it will be coming soon, as I am in the process of doing all receipts this month. And Thank You! for your generosity and support.

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#5 Consumer Comment

OK, so why is the OP complaining about you?

AUTHOR: Steve - (USA)

POSTED: Friday, March 30, 2012

And just saying he has no life or whatever does not cut it; why is he singling you out?

Oh, and "Co-mingling and inconsistent record keeping" is NOT a far cry from putting money in your pocket. In fact, it is precisely how one steals from donors. What was your relationship with the for-profit business that was on your property? 

Interesting that you had to give $3K back to the charity. Sounds like it was a bit more serious than "inconsistent record keeping". 

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#4 REBUTTAL Owner of company

ARM Update

AUTHOR: arbrescue - (United States of America)

POSTED: Thursday, March 29, 2012

I would suggest you read what was posted. Perhaps then you might understand. If not use Webster's. Co-mingling and inconsistent record keeping is a far cry from putting money in your pocket. Basically this report states exactly what happened, inconsistencies in bookkeeping records. Nowhere is misuse or misappropriation mentioned nor did it happen. The proof is in the fact that the state allowed ARM to register as a non-profit upon conclusion of the investigation and all fines and restitution were suspended. 

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#3 Author of original report

NEW INFO.....

AUTHOR: w.knows88 - (United States of America)

POSTED: Thursday, March 29, 2012

http://www.nj.gov/oag/newsreleases12/pr20120321a.html

New Jersey Division of Consumer Affairs Reaches Settlement With Sussex County Horse Rescue
Charity

NEWARK
The State Division of Consumer Affairs has settled its investigation of an unregistered charity that rescues horses, with two trustees of the organization agreeing to pay $6,000 back to the organization, under terms of the Consent Order.

Therese
A. Figueroa, 55, and Cynthia J. Millar, 36, both of Branchville, each have paid $3,000 to The Arabian Rescue Mission, Inc.
(ARM). Both are trustees of ARM.

ARM, which operates a facility in Wantage Township, has never been registered as a charitable organization with the Division of Consumer Affairs as required. During its investigation, the Division determined that Figueroa and Millar commingled charitable donations with payments made to a for-profit stable operating on the same Wantage Township property as the horse rescue organization.

Additionally, the for-profit stable charged ARM for boarding and feeding horses, but payments records
were inconsistent and incomplete.  Potential donors did not receive, and could not get,  the financial transparency from this organization that they are entitled to, Attorney General Jeffrey S. Chiesa said. The Arabian Rescue Mission now is registered and it will annually report financial information required under state law.  ARMs federal taxpayer identification number was used by other organizations unaffiliated with it, the investigation found.

A $25,000 civil penalty assessed against ARM, Figueroa, and Millar is suspended but can be reinstated if the terms of the Consent Order are not met.

Weve increased the publics focus on how charities use contributions through our ongoing Investigate Before You Donate initiative, said Thomas R. Calcagni, Director of the State Division of Consumer Affairs. Consumers should always
check whether a charity is registered to solicit donations in New Jersey, and how those donations are spent.

The Investigate Before You Donate initiative launched last year includes a bi-monthly report on the 10 most inquired
about charities at the Divisions Charities Registration Section. The report for each charity details spending on the
charitable programs purpose, fundraising, and management/general expenses.

Anna Lascurain, Special Deputy in Litigation, represented the State in this matter. Supervising Investigator Larry Biondo and Investigator Patrick Mullan in the Charities and Fundraising Fraud Unit conducted the investigation.

The Divisions Charities Hotline may be reached at 973-504-6215 during regular business
hours.

Consumers who believe they have been cheated or scammed by a business, or suspect any other form of consumer abuse, can file a complaint with the State Division of Consumer Affairs by visiting its website or by calling 1-800-242-5846
(toll free within New Jersey ) or 973-504-6200.

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#2 Consumer Comment

This Rescue is First Class

AUTHOR: REINMAN - (United States of America)

POSTED: Tuesday, March 06, 2012

 My wife and I adopted a horse from this rescue about 1 1/2 yrs ago. This rescue is by far one of the best I have ever dealt with.  They are instrumental in rescuing horses in need. I have visited their NJ farm and didn't see any horses in their care that was thin or neglected. Each horse is handled every day, fed twice a day and each horse had one on one contact with either the care taker or a number of volunteers that where there.  They also have a boarding stable at their farm as I spent several days on the farm all of the stalls where cleaned every day. 
 I find this report ludicrous from someone who has NO first hand knowledge about the care these  horses receive. This rescue is one of only a few that can rescue large herds of horses on a moments notice. This rescue just finished rescuing 40+ horses from a farm in WV.  As I have first hand knowledge of this mission as me an my wife volunteered on it. They have the resources to organize a mission of this size because of their reputation for truly caring for horses.
 The TV press and Newspapers had several reporters there every day and saw the work that was done to pull this off. They were able to adopt out nearly 40 horses in less than a week. Thanks to the many volunteers that came out every day to assist in this endeavor.  The horses were given away FREE to approved homes with only a $25 application fee. This fee didn't even cover the cost of the hotel for them to come in from out of town to spearhead mission. 
 I find this report very offensive with no proof in your claims what so ever as you so clearly stated. Maybe you should look at your own self and fix those problems before bashing a first class operation like Arabian Rescue Mission.. 

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#1 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Arabian Rescue Mission, Inc.

AUTHOR: arbrescue - (United States of America)

POSTED: Tuesday, March 06, 2012

It's really sad that the internet has provided a way for bored people to take their restlessness out on hard working folks and provide anonymity for that. While it has opened the doors for people to reach out and obtain help from sources they never had access to, it also allows for one individual to infect others like a virus.

Obviously from your own words, you have no first hand knowledge of the organization, the situations or the facts, "from what I gather". So if you have no knowledge and no facts and no proof of anything, your obvious goal is to be malicious. The fact that you spent a day finding as many public spots to advertise your viciousness, gives rise to the sadness your life must be surrounded with. 

The only thing stated that is true is that the NJ facility has mud and rocks. It has always had mud and rocks at certain times, but none more than 2011 with the record-breaking amount of rain and hurricane, the mud was non-stop. And we do only have limited grass however, we do spend an inordinate amount of money on quality hay to make up for the lack of forage available. As for stalls being cleaned and lack of sheds, perhaps you should come visit the farm to see what is or is not available. Since we offer boarding at the farm, it is doubtful the stalls are not cleaned regularly. 

Anyone wishing to visit the horses and farms of ARM are welcome at any time. And for those unable to personally visit, they can read what those who have been there have said here:

http://greatnonprofits.org/reviews/profile2/arabian-rescue-mission-inc

Those are from the folks who have actually been there, seen the horses or been helped by the organization. Kind of ironic how you sit behind a keyboard spewing your filth because of some perceived slight you may be feeling, yet do nothing to help the horses and people in need yourself. Also sad the more people and horses we help, the more rodents come out from under their rocks. Enjoy your moments in the light, since people who know us know what you say is also what you are; a LIE. 

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