- Report: #373758
Complaint Review: ATA/Karate America/ASF International
| ATA/Karate America/ASF International 1400 Millcoe Road
Jacksonville, Florida U.S.A. |
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ATA/Karate America/ASF International ATA/Karate America/ASF International decieve clients and are unwilling to terminate membership Jacksonville Florida
*Consumer Comment: I FEEL THE SAME WAY - RIPPED OFF!
*General Comment: I AGREE WITH ELISABETH!!
*Consumer Suggestion: Contact a consumer protection attorney
*UPDATE Employee: Membership Agreement
*UPDATE Employee: Contractual Obligation
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Byt he time your son wants to leave karate because he is not interested anymore, they are unwilling to cancel your membeship and continue charging month by month. You try by all means to negotiate the membership cancelation and all you get is cold shoulders and threats of putting you in a collect agency and taking legal actions against your family.
I understand that you pay for the service you get, right? I paid for all the classes my son took, plus five more months without getting any class because we left the school. What is the problem on canceling a membership? I tell you why they are unwilling to do so and continue to ilude and deceive parents after parents: they are a very dishonest business and parents from all over the United States should check their credentials and rip off reports on the Internet before signing their son in one of these schools.
There are good Karate schools out there that don't require a contract for years to come neither complicate any parents life by the time of discontinuing membership. Please,avoid getting caught in their lies. They will turn your life into hell.
Elisabeth
Wellington, Florida
U.S.A.
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I FEEL THE SAME WAY - RIPPED OFF!
AUTHOR: Bill - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, December 04, 2009
1) They do not have a retail installment seller license.
They are not technically allowed to engage in these transactions if they do not
have a license under Fl. Stat. 520.32.
2) They are engaged in an unfair and deceptive trade
practice under 16CFR 433.2 by failing to have the required Holder in Due Course
disclosure in their contract.
3) They are violating the Retail Installment Sales Act
(Fl. Stat. 520.34) by failing to have the name of the seller on their contract.
In layman's terms: Karate America is a SCAM! Wallet ninjas.
#2 General Comment
I AGREE WITH ELISABETH!!
AUTHOR: Tiffany - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, November 20, 2009
You should not require contracts for Karate for kids is her point. Of course the employees are going to say such things. Even if it is in FULL RED PRINT like you stated. The consumer relies on you to fully explain the cost, I agree with Elisabeth! You pray on parents with younger childern who want to see their childern do the best they can! Of course, they sign a contract cause they trust what you say and you do not fully disclose the amount you end up paying or what is in the contract. Childerns Karate classes should NOT require a contract and Elisabeth is making sure other parents do not make the same mistake we did. I will advocate and have discouraged parents in the JACKSONVILLE area not to ever sign up with ATA and go to a karate place who does not require such a lengthy commitment from a child or parent to sign. If it was classes for me then that would be a different story, we are talking about childern under the age of 18!
A parent only wants the best for their child and your company takes advantage of that!!.. I still am paying my obligation for your contract unwillingly and have not defaulted on my contract but your companies reputation in Jacksonville is getting worse with you not willing to work with parents and cancelling contracts at a negotiable rate for a child under the age of 18 it will only get worse.
I personally have told my story to other parents and have had at least 3 to 4 parents thank me for letting them know as they were thinking of signing up. Again, I am still paying my obligation to your company and have contacted you 3 times, 2 by letter and once to the "new instructors" ( think there have been 3 in the past 3 years at the PV location) but I will never recommend you to anyone in Jacksonville and will make sure to keep posting on the internet and facebook my story to warn other parents not to go ATA. You should treat consumers better!
I have had 2 bad experiences with your instructors in the PV location that have warranted for us not to return since last year. I am sure there are good instructors out there but I like Elisabeth would discourage others not to go and sign a contract with your company.
Also, when you mention Cell companies or gym companies (btw gyms do not require contracts anymore) they have cancellations fees that only range 200 to 400 rather then paying over 3,000 to cancel a contract like your company requires instead of a standard cancel fee, at least have a negotiable cancel fee!!....
Your company should get rid of contracts..
#3 Consumer Suggestion
Contact a consumer protection attorney
AUTHOR: J. - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Friday, September 25, 2009
#5 UPDATE Employee
Contractual Obligation
AUTHOR: Chris - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, November 12, 2008
Chris Peterson
Customer Relations Manager
ASF International

