• Report: #1159372

Complaint Review: Aadvantage North American Vanlines

  • Submitted: Thu, July 03, 2014
  • Updated: Thu, July 03, 2014

  • Reported By: 847hvbx — Destin Florida
Aadvantage North American Vanlines
5001 US Highway 30 West Fort Wayne, Indiana USA

Aadvantage North American Vanlines North American Van Lines, Sirva, Pensacola North American Movers, Destin North American, Northwest Florida North American, Allied Vanlines, Joan E. Ryan, Michael P. Fergus, Gregory S. Maiers, Bob Rosing, Ed Plant, David McDaniel, Veronica Mills, Samantha $14,000 North American Vanlines Ripoff, Breach of Contract, Missing Shipments, Damaged Items Fort Wayne Indiana

*Author of original report: The nightmare continues...

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Summary: Moving Contract for $12,691 signed in April 2014...customer still doesn't have all her posessions, no communication from company, no reimbusrasal for expenses that keep compounding, promised delivery dates, communications from Customer ignored, has paid 100% and customer has been delivered 2/3 of goods a month late and heavily damaged.  No time given for delivery of remainder.

March 24, 2014 – Tiara met with David McDaniel of the North American Vanlines Pensacola office.  Although his moving estimate was the highest priced ($12,691.00), Tiara opted for what she thought would be the safest choice and agreed to have them move, store, then deliver her household goods and her vehicle.  Mr. McDaniel assured her that storing the goods for two months at their location in Pensacola would be better than shipping it to Ann Arbor, MI for storage then delivery

April 5, 2014 – Tiara emailed David McDaniel the requested delivery date of June 7, 2014 and confirmed the delivery address.  She asked David to include that in the contract

April 7, 2014 – Tiara signs the contract prepared by David McDaniel indicating a delivery window of June 7-10, 2014 for her household good to Michigan.  These dates were notated on all 8 pages of the contract.

April 8, 2014 – Tiara was charged a $5,000 deposit toward the moving contract

April 2014 – Several email exchanges and phone conversations occurred between Tiara and David McDaniel coordinating the transportation of her car to arrive at the same time the household goods were to arrive, June 7, 2014.

May 23, 2014 – Tiara’s vehicle was picked up and transported to Michigan where it was successfully delivered a few days later.

June 2, 2014 – Tiara sent the following email to Veronica Mills, scheduling coordinator at the Pensacola North American office:

“My things have been in storage this with you the past 2 months and are now to be delivered this weekend to *** *****, ****, MI 48108. Can you please tell me if the truck will arrive on my requested date of 6/7 in *****?”

Ms. Mills responded that as this request was last minute, the best she could arrange was a pickup of the goods from storage June 16th with a delivery window of June 20-23, 2014 

Given the terms of the longstanding contract, she was obviously alarmed by Ms. Mill’s response. She called and spoke to Ms. Mills, who indicated she was never made aware of the delivery dates. Tiara then forwarded Ms. Mills and Mr. McDaniel the email she sent on April 5, 2014 to David McDaniel, confirming the delivery address and delivery date of June 7, 2014. Ms. Mills indicated I needed to call David McDaniel. directly

When Tiara called David McDaniel, he told her that he was sure that she had never given him a requested delivery date and that he was not at fault. He stated the delivery date was never in writing anywhere. He was argumentative and rude, saying “Lady, you never gave me a delivery date.”  He denied ever having any phone conversations with her, stating he couldn’t remember any.

Tiara then asked to speak with a supervisor, and Ed Plant of the Pensacola office called.  Tiara explained the situation, and Mr. Plant indicated Ms. Mills “would work on it.” Tiara scanned and sent to Mr. McDaniel, Veronica and Mr. Plant the 8-page North American contract he had personally prepared with the delivery date of June 7-10, 2014 indicated on each and every page. 

** Radio Silence** 

June 5,, 2014.  The last communication Tiara received from the Pensacola North American office was from Ms. Mills who said she had been out of the office with a migraine and hadn’t been working on this issue.  She indicated that the best she could do was the June 16,, 2014 pickup date from Pensacola with a June 20-23, 2014 delivery window in Michigan.

Since that time, Tiara called the Pensacola North American office no less than 6 times and sent 4 emails without a single response.  North American Vanlines not only breached their contract with her,  then also stopped responding completely to communication from her.

June 11, 2014 – In a effort to get a response from anyone at North American Vanlines, Tiara faxed and mailed letters explaining the situation to Joan E. Ryan, CFO of North American Vanlines, Gregory S. Mairs, President of Logistic Services, Bob Rosing, President of Relocation Services, Ed Plant, Pensacola office Supervisor, and also copied customer service, Veronica Mills, Ed Plant, and David McDaniel. 

June 12, 2014 – Samantha Miller in Customer Service called.  She also followed up with an email restating what she said on the phone, which was “as of now they still do not have a driver available.”

June 13, 2014 – Tiara called Samantha Miller and asked to speak with a supervisor.  Dia Wilson at Sirva customer service called her back and emailed a follow up, offering the first apology she received to date, and restating no driver was available but they were “working on it.”

June 16, 2014 – After no word from anyone at North American Vanlines Tiara emailed Dia and Samantha in customer service requesting another supervisor or the contact information of the Vice President or President.

Dia Wilson responded in email: “It looks as if there has been a driver assigned to your shipment. According to the system, it looks like it is supposed to load on 6/20 with an anticipated delivery date of 6/24.”

June 21, 2014 – John, the driver, called Tiara and told her he was just leaving the Pensacola location but could only fit approximately 2/3 of her household good in his truck.  He told her the Pensacola office was very unorganized and were pulling items from different locations in the warehouse.  He also had already notated damages to items on the paperwork.  He also stated the balance of the contract had to be paid or he would be unable to make the delivery of her goods.  Tiara explained she was not willing to pay 100% of the balance on the contract we only 2/3 of her possessions were being delivered.

Tiara emailed and spoke with Samantha Miller in Customer Service who informed her this was North American’s policy and 100% had to be paid or she would not receive any of her goods.  Further, Tiara was informed it was too close to the shipment time to pay by credit card so she would have to have a cashier’s check ready for the driver.

Tiara informed Samantha she was traveling for work that day (on a work trip that had to be rescheduled after the first shipment didn’t arrive as promised) and asked to speak with a supervisor.  She was connected to Vicki Pease who arranged for Tiara to pay $5,000 with a balance of $2,691 due upon delivery of the remaining items.

June 23, 2014 – Veronica Mills from the Pensacola office sent Tiara a credit card authorization form for $5,000 which was a portion of the balance due, since only a portion of the goods were being delivered.

June 24, 2014Shipment #1 arrived, many things damaged and broken

June 26, 2015 – Having not heard anything from North American regarding the second shipment, a representative for Tiara called Dia Wilson at Sirva customer service and was informed the second shipment was scheduled to be picked up June 30, 2014 and delivered July 3, 2014

June 30, 2014 – Veronica Mills from the Pensacola office emailed a credit card authorization form for the balance on the contract, in anticipation of the July 3, 2014 shipment.  She verified via email the driver would be picking up the goods in Pensacola, FL that day and would deliver 7/3/14.  

July 2, 2014 – Tiara flew home from a family vacation with her children to be home specifically to receive the second shipment the next day

July 3, 2014:

7:19am Eastern – Tiara emailed Samantha Miller, Veronica Mills and Sirva Customer Service to let them know she had not heard from driver and need to know when shipment was arriving that day

9:27am Eastern – Tiara called Samantha Miller, left a message about finding out when the driver would be coming 

9:31am Eastern – Tiara called Dia Wilson in Sirva Customer service.  Reached her.  She said she would call the driver and call her back.

11:00am Eastern – Having not heard back, Tiara called Dia Wilson again and was informed her items still have not left Pensacola, even though Tiara was required to make full payment on the contract in anticipation of the July 3 delivery.  Dia said she had no other information, other than there’s a not in the system saying they are now looking into 3rd party crating and shipping.  Dia said the earliest Tiara would recieve the good would be next week.

Tiara reiterated that she flew home last night with her children from a family gathering specifically so she could be there for this second shipment, and someone should have called her prior to the delivery day.  Tiara requested a firm delivery date be communicated today since tomorrow was the 4th of July holiday and waiting until next week to find out a date was unacceptable.  Tiara has been left in a holding pattern again, wondering whether she is going to have to reschedule more work trips in order to receive the shipment.

1:00pm Eastern – Tiara's representative called Dia Wilson on her behalf insisting a delivery date be communicated today.  Dia hung up on him.





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#1 Author of original report

The nightmare continues...

AUTHOR: 847hvbx - ()

July 6, 2014

Having not heard anything from North American Vanlines or Sirva, Tiara wrote an email to Vickie Pease in Customer servise, copying Samantha Miller, Dia Wilson, Veronica Mills and general Sirva Customer Service.

July 7, 2014

Still no response or communication from Sirva or North American Vanlines.

4:09pm Tiara left a voicemail for Vicki Pease

4:15pm Tiara called Samantha Miller.  She said Vickie Pease was supposed to be working on it, hold, checked with Vicki and came back on and said delivery is scheduled for July 15, 2014.  She would confirm and send an email.

July 8, 2014

Tiara received an email from Samantha confirming in writing the upcoming delivery would be 7/15.

July 14, 2014  (day before scheduled delivery)

Given the past  no-shows and false promises, Tiara emailed Samantha again on 7/14:

“I'm just following up to make sure the driver is indeed delivering my remaining items tomorrow. Since the last delivery simply didn't show up, I thought I would confirm he is on the road today and set for delivery tomorrow.” 

Samantha responded via email mid-day:

“I confirmed that it will be delivered to your DA today! I will get in contact with your DA to confirm delivery to your residence for tomorrow!”

4:00pm Eastern – Having not heard back from anyone, Tiara sent another email:

“Hi Samantha,

Any word on what time tomorrow? I haven't heard from the delivery people.”

4:09pm Eastern - From Samantha:

“I spoke with your DA and they have been informed that the driver won’t arrive until tomorrow morning, I’m not sure what the holdup is but I’ll definitely look into that for you! He still has you down on the books but it looks like Wednesday will be the delivery to your residence!”

4:22pm Eastern – From Tiara

“Hi Samantha, 

I am scheduled to fly out Wednesday morning for a work trip. I delayed the trip do I could receive this second delivery. Please coordinate with the delivery company to have it to me tomorrow. It can come anytime, I just can't go to the expense of changing my meetings and plane ticket again. “

4:56pm Eastern – From Samantha

“If you would like to make the DA aware of your schedule, feel free to give them a call, they would be better ask about your delivery! 248-615-**** (University).”

Tiara called the North American Vanlines Ann Arbor, Michigan (University) location at 4:48pm.  No surprisingly, everyone had left for the day, however, she was able to convince the receptionist to have someone call her back that day.

5:14pm Eastern – Scott from the North American Ann Arbor, Michigan location called Tiara and said they had expected to receive my good that day (Monday) and be able to turn them around for the scheduled Tuesday delivery, however they had not received the shipment. 

July 15, 2014  (Day of scheduled delivery)

*Absolutely no one pro-actively called Tiara to tell her any information

12:00 noon Eastern – Tiara called Scott at the Ann Arbor location.  No shipment received yet, no word on what it was coming.  He said he did not have any way to contact the driver and his calls to the booking agent in Pensacola were not being returned, nor his calls to Sirva.

*Tiara sat waiting at home for word all day

4:45pm Eastern – Tiara called Scott, who again said he had not information, no response from the people he had contacted about the shipment and no idea when it would be in.

Tiara, for the third time, changed a work trip plane ticket for the next morning at great expense since it was clear the delivery would not happen that day.

July 16, 2014 

9:09am Eastern – Tiara called Scott at the Ann Arbor location.  He said he would check and see if the shipment came in and would let me know.  He said emails and phone messages to the “booker” at the Pensacola office had not been returned, so he did not have a “PRO number” to track my shipment nor any information on where it is.  He would try to reach Pensacola again.

9:20am Eastern

Tiara’s email to Samantha Miller, Veronica Mills, Vicki Pease and Dia Wilson:

“I have still not received a call or email back from any of you regarding my previous urgent email yesterday, which I find incredible.

Scott at the North American office in Ann Arbor, Michigan told me calls and emails to the "booker" in Pensacola are not being returned and he does not have a "Pro Number" to track my shipment nor any information on the ETA.  I can only assume Veronica in Pensacola is the booker that is not responding.

This failure in communication and responsiveness from North American and Sirva is reaching new levels. 

I would like a phone call from someone a Sirva within the next hour providing me with concrete information as to the location of my possessions and the delivery date.   

I have work trips that have been delayed at a great expense because of this further failure in North American Vanlines ability to fulfill their promises, and at the bare minimum expect at least some communication about what is going on.”

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