- Report: #782599
Complaint Review: Advance School of Driving
| Advance School of Driving 13946 Jurupa Avenue
Fontana, California United States of America |
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Advance School of Driving Say hello to DOT while you train! Fontana, California
*Consumer Comment: I Went to ASD in Fall 2011
*General Comment: The TRUTH about ASD
*Consumer Comment: again...my experience.
*Consumer Comment: Advanced school of driving is a good school
*UPDATE Employee: Did u go to our school
*Consumer Comment: The point is CRST
*UPDATE Employee: You r not a consumer like you stated you were
*Consumer Comment: Andrew missed the point
*UPDATE Employee: You wen to school in Penn.
*Consumer Comment: Practice 3rd party testing
*Consumer Comment: My Experience
*Consumer Comment: IM AT THE SCHOOL NOW!
*UPDATE Employee: Liar. None of that happened.
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Advance School of Driving is the California training arm of CRST. They have a large yard with plenty of trucks and lots of students.
Bring your binoculars!
First day of training, all students wait outside the motel office for the shuttle. "Be there by 4AM or get left!" they tell us.
At 4:15 the shuttle arrives and we pile in for the trip to the yard. At the yard, all 37 of us are herded into a trailer large enough for 30 max, so we're sitting in the aisles (fire hazard) or on the floor.
This is where the binoculars come in handy.
After our ID's are taken to be photo-copied, we watch an orientation video. If you're at the front, you can see the crappy picture on the TWENTY-FIVE INCH TV.
If you're in the back or the middle, take a nap.
I was near the front and still had to strain to see the picture; turned out it was a VHS tape that they had used for a year!
Down to business: "these are the questions the DMV will ask. These are the answers. You have two days to memorize them".
After getting my permit for air brakes and hazmat, I was ready to train.
The training trucks, while a pretty red & white, are between 35 and 40 years old!
One instructor takes a truck and FIVE students out. That makes the instructor in the left seat, a student in the hot seat, and four others crammed into the back of a very small cab.
And the fun begins.
I've driven a stick all my life, and had to unlearn all those years to adapt to double-clutching, but I got it pretty fast.
Too fast.
We had students in my group that had never used a clutch in their life, so the students who know what they're doing (yours truly) sit in the back jammed between other students while the truck shudders, gears grind, and we all suffer.
In 6 days of training, I logged maybe EIGHT HOURS of wheel time, all because the school is packing students in as fast as they can and don't have enough trucks.
Driver training consists of driving circles around four blocks in an industrial complex. Over and over and over.
Freeway training consists of getting on an on-ramp, driving to the next off-ramp, and getting off.
Period.
Remember I mentioned DOT?
On the 4th day of "driving", the yard full of trucks was useless: DOT had set up a tent 200 yards from the Advance gate and was stopping every single Advance truck they saw.
In one day, our training fleet went from 5 trucks to 1! Four trucks were red-flagged, leaving only one road-worthy truck for ALL the trainees.
They also give you a photo-copied booklet that teaches you everything about how to pass the DMV skills test.
IF you can read it!
The "book" was written by someone with bad grammar who never heard of a spell-checker.
It referred to illustrations that either weren't there or were so dsrk as to be useless, contradicted itself on matters of technique, and was generally unusable.
I'm a writer, and offered to edit the book for them. "Just email me a copy and I'll do it tonight" I told them.
Turns out they don't have a copy to send, so they just keep on making copies of the same messed-up crap year after year.
I finally told the "Director of Operations" that I was leaving, that they didn't have the training facilities they had promised and were unable to fulfill their end of our contract. He apologized, and told me that they would not be billing CRST for the training I had received.
To his credit, I never got a bill.
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Search Tips#1 Consumer Comment
I Went to ASD in Fall 2011
AUTHOR: Rotcataergeht - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, February 01, 2013
#2 General Comment
The TRUTH about ASD
AUTHOR: ValleyxLyfe - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, June 19, 2012
I attended asd last year through contract with the major carrier CRST. I won't lie, it is most definately a crash course. We started the class with 40 people, but by day three that number was cut in half. You have three days to learn and pass all written tests, including hazmat. For somebody like me with zero truck or mechanical experience it proved to be quite a challenge. Still, I passed while others around me kept dropping out. By the end of the first week there were only about 13-16 of us originals. Week two consisted of driving the trucks. Again, I was behind the rest of the class because I'd never driven stick or backed any sort of trailer in my entire life. I sucked, bad, but I kept at it and did the best I could. I got made fun of by an instructor for running over a cone. I have thick skin so I wasn't trippin but I thought it was pretty unprofessional. At the end of week two I was still slightly behind, so they arranged for me to have a saturday class with two other struggling students. The trainer they put me with on saturday was awesome. I learned more in that full day than I did the week prior. After proving that I could up and down shift, back the trailer, parallel etc I was awarded my CDL. I took it to CRST, passed their road test, and went out on the road with a CRST trainer. I think I recognized five people at the end of CRSTs orientation. Compare that to the 40 plus I started school with.
It is true that during normal training you will be in a truck with four to five other students. It's also true that the yard trucks are a little old and rough, but the trucks we went out on the road with were pretty decent. I lucked out and got on a freightshaker with the same 10 speed manual trans set up as my company road tester and trainer both had. I felt bad for the people who trained on the freightshaker but had to CRST road test with the volvo. The volvos are eight or nine speed and completely different. Had it been me I probably would have failed my road test. I wish ASD would crosstrain on all models that crst uses.
I was one of those "struggling" students who many thought wouldn't make it. Today, however, I have a year experience, all safe miles, and o/o my own rig locally. I saw plenty of "i know it all I was born with the ability to truck" types like the author of this report drop out and realize trucking wasnt for them within the first few weeks and months. ASD will give you the tools you need to succeed just as much as any other comparable CDL school, but how you use those tools is entirely up to you. Like any crash course, many will struggle and ultimately fail. It takes a certain type of person to succeed under pressure like that, and looking back Im even surprised i made it.
#3 Consumer Comment
again...my experience.
AUTHOR: StrykingWinger - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, December 17, 2011
#4 Consumer Comment
Advanced school of driving is a good school
AUTHOR: Teresa - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, December 15, 2011
We only had 2 students per driver. I had a great experience and passed my DMV test on the first try. I have recommended them to many other people.
I would suggest you pay to get your license like I did then look for a company to hire you. Then you won't be indebted to anyone.
Truck driving is not a glamorous job. It is hard work (7 days a week/70 hrs ). If this experience has frustrated you it may not be cut out for trucking.
#5 UPDATE Employee
Did u go to our school
AUTHOR: andrew - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, November 26, 2011
#7 UPDATE Employee
You r not a consumer like you stated you were
AUTHOR: andrew - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, November 23, 2011
#8 Consumer Comment
Andrew missed the point
AUTHOR: Bsmjuem - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Monday, November 21, 2011
#9 UPDATE Employee
You wen to school in Penn.
AUTHOR: andrew - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, November 21, 2011
#10 Consumer Comment
Practice 3rd party testing
AUTHOR: Bsmjuem - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, November 19, 2011
#11 Consumer Comment
My Experience
AUTHOR: StrykingWinger - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 15, 2011
#12 Consumer Comment
IM AT THE SCHOOL NOW!
AUTHOR: Ih8liars! - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, November 14, 2011
My first instructor Jim was very knowledgeable, went out of his way to anawer any questions I may have had. For that matter when Jim was working with other students, I felt Very comfortable talking with the other instructors.
Today I started my on the road training, my instructor is Andrew. I couldnt be happier! This Guy is very patient. He has a great way of explaining things, and is very open for questions. In our group There are 4 students plus Andrew, and we have plenty of room in this newer rig!
Dont know what your prob was but everyone here so far has been understanding and helpful! I would Recommend Advance to any, plenty of well taken care of training trucks and instructors that actually care!
#13 UPDATE Employee
Liar. None of that happened.
AUTHOR: andrew - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, November 11, 2011
Month here. This many graduates would be impossible with 4 trucks going down.I am sorry that our school did not work out for you but if you can get your ducks in order next time and come in here and be honest you will pass. You were dropped from the company. We did not drop you.. Also, our trucks have 3 individual seats in the back with one person driving. That would make 4 students to a truck. Not 5. There is a lot of room in the truck. Please make honest comments on a review. Lying about a company is a terrible thing to do. I don't understand why you are so vengeful.

