• Report: #142819

Complaint Review: Aiu Online

  • Submitted: Sun, May 15, 2005
  • Updated: Wed, January 04, 2006

  • Reported By:Naperville Illinois
Aiu Online
5550 Prarie Stone Parkway Hoffman Estates, Illinois U.S.A.

Aiu Online AIU SCAM Look for another College to go to If they call ask to be put on the do not call list Hoffman Estates Illinois

*Consumer Comment: I agree with D

*UPDATE Employee: Only Employees Like You Bring Harm to the Students

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Beautifully put!

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Where do I start???!!! AIU is a for-profit school. This should be obvious to anyone investigating this SCAM. There is so much going on there, I will try to be detailed as possible. First, I was attracted to the job because of the money. For someone WITHOUT a college degree, $45,000.00 is a great starting salary. Look guys, more than 95 % of the sales people who call you do Not have a college degree and these are the same people who call you everyday trying to get you to fill out that application.

Please do not fill out the application, because once you sign, you're going to college. No matter if you're qualified or not. O.K now once you are hired you go through one week of training where you learn your scripts, and guys there is more than one. There is the first call script; all the first call is for is to sell the second call. It sounds like you're talking to an admissions counselor when they call, doesn't it? They want to know a little about you, your educational background, how long have you been thinking about getting your education, what does success mean to you, are you employed. The main reason for this call is to find your pain. Because they will use this in their second call if they start to loose you. They will also use it against you when you TRY to drop out. This happens when buyer remorse sets in a week before school starts and after you have already signed your Sallie Mae. God forbid you're a single mother working for minimum wage. There is your pain. Of course you want a better life for your child, who doesn't and going to college and getting that degree is your ticket to success. Remember they asked you what success is to you and you probably said something about a better life for your family.

Let's take a look at this a little closer. Once you open yourself up like that you are vulnerable, you let your defense down because you feel like the person on the other end of the phone who, you don't even know, is your friend. He/She is not your friend, they never will be, they only want the enrollment. The first call will last 7 to 15 minutes. The second call will last 45 to an hour. Then there is stichin. Stichin is the process of getting the funds from financial aid and more importantly, Sallie Mae. Sallie Mae is the student loan the only Student loan you're allowed to get. It's because they pay faster and AIU has a system set up with them. Sallie Mae is prime + 10 to 14%.

For those of you who do not know what that means I feel sorry for you- but you're the student AIU is looking for. What kind of student is AIU looking for? Well, we are told we are a second chance, third chance, fourth chance College. That means you have probably flunked out of college the first or second time around you're probably poor, and you have no idea how the educational system works. You don't know that you can get your education a lot cheaper than AIU. Or you're in a job that will only promote you if you have a degree and you are looking for an easy way out. AIU is a diploma mill that is approved by SACS. The students I admit don't have a clue what they're doing. They are supposed to write an essay and they turn in 3 lines and most of the words are missed spelled, no punctuation. So I end up rewriting their essay, who's really going to know anyway.

It's about the numbers anyway. I would turn you away if I was at any other school but this is AIU. It's all about the numbers. When I first started you had to get 16 enrollments a month. Today all the reps need to get are 12 enrollments. Isn't it nice to know that you are truly a number? Once I get you through orientation, I'm done with you. Here's another bit of info- the formula for a good day at AIU if you're where a sales rep would be the power of ten. That means I should walk out of there with at least 8 appointments and 2 cows (Contract On the Way). It's all about Filling your Pipeline. In sales, the more qualified appointments you get the better the odds of making you quota at the end of the month. There are better programs out there online for someone like you to get your education, you just have to look Try the site they give you to show that they are approved by SACS.

Start by checking out a real college like a state or other NAME schools. Odds are they have an online program and you will save a lot of money. Look- they tell you that you should not put a price on education. Look at your own economic situation. I currently attend another University in Illinois and my student aid pays for everything. Yes, it will take me 2 years but if you and I were at a job interview and the deciding factor came to what schools we both attended I would be walking out with a new job. Don't let sales people tell you it's not about what school you went to; it's about the accreditation. All they want is a sale. I would like to touch on one more thing. C.S.I. This show has become a phenomenon. Unfortunately there are people who think they can get into forensics by getting their degree online. You need to have special training and you CAN NOT do biology labs or Anatomy & Physiology labs online.

Guys, it's a great show but remember its Hollywood and in the real world getting your degree in criminal justice from AIU is not going to get you even close to that kind of work. In reality getting your criminal justice degree from AIU will put you in debt because you probably wont finish but you will have to finish paying your bill to AIU. CHECK out your states school online programs.

The average time someone works for AIU is about 3-4 months. They go through more people than you can imagine. They get fired or quit. That's why they use temp employment agencies. Part of the atmosphere there is the fear of getting fired if you don't hit your quota and it happens all the time. It's all about the numbers and if you become an over-achiever you get to go to what they call HIGH ACEIVERS. This is like a bonuses or your year end commission. Due to SACS a college is not to offer a commission on the enrollment but this is a sales environment and YOU DO GET A COMMISSION on your sales. They pay for everything, your hotel room, meals, open bar, airfare, and a lot more. I'm not sure why SACS turns their back on this; I mean it's in their rules. I have spoken to numerous universities and have asked what kind of bonuses they get and they tell me its illegal. I know I'll be there next year. I believe its in Florida.

Earlier this year they went to Vegas. I am currently looking for another job but it's hard to find a job that pays $45,000.00 without a college degree but I am looking. Until then I will tell you that your essays are great, or I will rewrite them for you. (what ever it takes to get an enrollment, right Rich?) I will tell you that C.S.I. is a great show and you can be just like them. I'll hide the fact that the only financial aid you will get wont cover the cost and Sallie Mae is the only way. I won't tell you that the odds of you graduating with out adding on more classes is very, very slim. I will tell you what you want to hear. I will find your pain and use it against you. I will be you friend, your confidant, until one week after school starts then I will be gone. I doing this because I am ashamed of what I do. This company has SACS eating out of its hand. This online education phenomenon needs to be regulated. (what is SACS for?) Guys if you want to get your education the Government has programs out there for you but it will take some work, nothing comes easily. If it's too good to be truethen it is. Investigate!!!

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#1 Consumer Comment

I agree with D

AUTHOR: Jenny - (U.S.A.)

You definitely hit the nail. That is what exactly happened to me and how I got sucked in the AIU realm. I now realize everything was a total lie up front. I was lied about the cost and now I owe AIU 9,000.00 out of my pocket which does not include a student loan balance on top of that. Did I get my degree? NO, I was administratively withdrawn with 4 classes to go. If those people think that I will return they can think again. I got the books I need to go on and teach myself, which you basically do anyway. As for as the money owed to them? I have no idea. I may need a lawyer for this one.
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#2 UPDATE Employee

Only Employees Like You Bring Harm to the Students

AUTHOR: Happy - (U.S.A.)

Dear D

The reason for possible high turnover in Admissions at AIU is because of people like you!

AIU is very upfront with everything they do and operate in Black and White. Every employee is told the same thing and every employee is told to work with integrity and always in the best interest of the student. Obviously you didnt listen to that part of the interview process or any of the meetings or read your employee handbook.

Every Private University is for Profit, so is very eveident that you do not have a degree or you would know that. As for their employees not having degrees, many do and most attend AIU and accomplish their degrees at some point. It is an entry level job and to move up in the company you have to start at the bottom, with or without a degree.

In closing I guess that I would have to say that you are the very good salesman to have gotten through the interview process, enrolled students, not operated with integrity and still choose to work there all because you feel you can't find a job that pays that good anywhere else. Lets see here, who is in the wrong here? AIU? I don't think so. I have worked there for over a year, have never been treated with anything but respect and have never once lied to a student. There are NO comissions paid there and the Conference held each year is just that, a working conference. Most companies and yes even Universities have confrences where the leaders in the company meet and brainstorm, analyze and work to improve their processes. That I believe is more than legal. And no, I do not believe that you will be attending the next one as I fear that you probably do not work there anymore. Yes, when it is found that an employee is not operating with integrity, they are let go.

I hope that everyone reading reports for any company on this site realize that they are reading the writings of ex-employees who are probably X because of their own wrong doing and are looking to take others down with them so they won't feel alone. For every report on here with a negative view, there are 1,000's of happy employees and students. The ratio is much higher on the positive side than the negative. It is simply a matter of those who are angry (usually with themselves)are the ones with the time to write such stupid reports.
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#3 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Beautifully put!

AUTHOR: Steve - (U.S.A.)


I applaud your honesty. You are right about everything. I am an ex-employee of that horrible place they called a corporation. Everything you said is on the ball. I worked there exactly 2 months, and just couldn't handle lying to the students anymore. I don't know how you stay there knowing the black cloud they are under for the horrible things they do to students and employees.

Is rich still working there as a DOA? How could I have guessed?

I am sorry you are so miserable. Get out while you can! Quit! Stop lying to individuals and know that the truth will set you free!

I am now in HR and we do not accept this pathetic online degree when we source through resumes. We make sure we wein out the few people who went to AIU and CTU. It is sad that it has to come to this. When the bottom line hits and I have to hire somebody with or without a degree, I will hire somebody with it. But if it is from AIU or CTU I don't even continue with a second interview. It's not the people's fault either, that is the sad part. So all of you who question if HR looks at where the bachelors degree is from....YES we do look at it! And it does matter where you attended college! And it will cost you that job!

Please go anywhere but online at AIU or CTU. Go to a state school that is much cheaper and will probably be more helpful.

Be good to yourself! And D, go get another job. I would love to interview you right here in chicago! I bet you have learned a lot of what you would like to do now that you have worked at that joke of a company.

Take care- keep us updated about yourself! This is so helpful to others who are searching for a school!

Thanks for being honest! More people need to come forward!
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