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  • Submitted: Sat, July 03, 2010
  • Updated: Thu, May 16, 2013

  • Reported By: sgsdr — Nationwide United States of America
AlpineK9
29416 N 161 Ave. Surprise, Arizona United States of America

AlpineK9 Zdenek "Hans" Blabla, Selling German Shepherd Dogs with false claim of AKC registration and dogs are unhealthy Surprise, Arizona

*Consumer Comment: Lack of Professionalism

*Author of original report: wtf?

*General Comment: I have 2 female puppies that still need homes and would like to offer the 2 ppl ripped off a free puppy as a way to help them with the puppy of there dreams

*Consumer Comment: Satisfied Alpine K9 Owner

*General Comment: Who said Fat?

*General Comment: USDA

*General Comment: YOUR dog?

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Sonia and animal control

*Consumer Comment: Non bias, concerned reader to the very obvious.

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: You be the judge.

*General Comment: Look on Pedigree Database

*Consumer Comment: Bizarre, and not our experience at all!

*Consumer Comment: you should be ashamed of yourself

*Consumer Comment: Jennifer Thompson

*Consumer Comment: The Best Testimonial is the Dog

*Consumer Comment: Hartman

*General Comment: nasty Emily anonymous

*General Comment: Don't worry

*Consumer Comment: Bygone Era

*General Comment: NO dog is a piece of crap!

*General Comment: Leave it Hans

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Papers were delivered.

*General Comment: smart man, Mr. Blabla

*Author of original report: You have the WRONG map!

*Author of original report: Still NO registration

*Author of original report: Proof of Escrow Account

*Author of original report: What you did is inexcusable

*Author of original report: You've lost it Zdenek...

*Author of original report: August 9, 2010

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: AKC REGISTRATION

*Author of original report: July 31, 2010 black pup Lupo

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Link ?Swithching pups.

*Author of original report: Still no AKC registration

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: I am too bussy for this harrasment.

*Author of original report: Names

*Author of original report: I still see no evidence of the dog's pedigree

*General Comment: another opinion

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: alpine k9 rebuttal

*General Comment: Blabla you should be ashamed of yourself

*Author of original report: Proof

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: As I sated on many ocassions andI am doing here again I WILL RETURN THE MONEY.

*Author of original report: Show Evidence

*Author of original report: Where's the guarantee?

*Consumer Comment: Thier is one in every crowd

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: From the owner of Alpine K9

*General Comment: The Woman with the Messy Living Room

*Consumer Comment: Facts to bear in mind

*Author of original report: Fraud

*Author of original report: The black pup

*Consumer Comment: This woman is seriously malicious and misguided

*Consumer Comment: You Still Don't Get it !

*Author of original report: Update on pup

*Consumer Comment: Above Rebutal by Consumer, Not Owner of Company

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: I Stand by My Statements....

*Author of original report: I am the owner of the black pup

*Consumer Comment: WOW! I Have Had Totally the Opposite Experience for Over 10 Years!

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Wanting to purchase a German Shepherd with a particular Eastern European bloodline, I contacted AlpineK9 in April 2010 and agreed to purchase what I was told was an AKC registered male puppy.  I was required to send a $500 deposit immediately to reserve the puppy.  The total price for the puppy was $1600 plus $375 shipping, or $1975.  Four weeks later I received an email from AlpineK9 telling me the puppy was ready to be shipped and I had to send the remainder of the payment.  Payment was sent and all I heard from them was a voicemail telling me they had shipped the puppy, never asked me for a convenient day or time.

The puppy arrived severely emaciated, weighing only 9 pounds at 10 weeks of age.  It was so thin, the veterinarian was hesitant to run a flea comb over it because you could see every vertebrae.  The puppy had a bacterial eye infection with heavy green/yellow discharge and green/yellow diarrhea. [continued below]....

.....  The puppy tested positive for tapeworm, hookworm and giardia. 

Additionally, the puppy arrived with no AKC registration papers.  This was the first time I had ever purchased a puppy in such bad condition and without an AKC registration form.  When I contacted Mr. Blabla, all I got was insults and I was blamed for the condition of the puppy and even the fact that the litter was never registered.  I was told I was stupid and know nothing about European dogs, even though my parents are European-born and I lived many years in Europe myself.

After weeks went by and I never received any AKC registration for the pup, investigated further and discovered that Blabla's AKC registration privileges had been suspended in April 1999 for 10 years!  This was because of inaccurate record keeping, which tuned out to be Blabla registering dogs and claiming they had pedigrees they really didn't have.

When confronted with this, Blabla suddenly decided his girlfriend, Debbie Erlinger would be registering the puppy.  To cover himself, he did pay his fine to the AKC and have his privileges reinstated on June 4, 2010.  However, the alleged sire and dam of this puppy have never been registered with the AKC although Blabla was trying to sell this dam on the internet since at least September 2009.  Blabla's AKC privileges would have to be reinstated BEFORE the whelping of this puppy in order for him to register it. 

I paid $1975 for a dog that has no AKC registration and no pedigree.  I had purchased this pup to one day add to my breeding program.

As of this date, the pup weighs only 15 pounds, is on meds and is doing better, but remains very small and looks like a cat.  If it does not show any growth in the next month, the vet will test it for pituitary dwarfism, a serious genetic defect, which it most likely has.  Its ears are spaced very wide apart and its head is very small.  It's the size of a cat.

I would warn anyone thinking of purchasing a dog from this man, don't do it unless you can go there and personally get the dog.  Ask to see the AKC registration and pedigree first.  Have the dog examined by your own veterinarian. 

Once you get ripped-off, don't expect Blabla to stand by any of the guarantees on his website.  You will only get insults and threats, but you will NEVER get what you paid for!


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#1 Consumer Comment

Lack of Professionalism

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (USA)

Prager does not exhibit good professional communication skills.  If you want to purchase a dog from this individual, be warned- he is unable to conduct himself as a competent professional breeder.  Be prepared to be insulted, cursed at, and not shown good customer care.  There are other breeders out there of Czech line GSDs.  This man needs to learn better communication skills.

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#2 Author of original report

wtf?

AUTHOR: you know it - (USA)

When you start getting emails from people who actually know you and they tell you others are posting things about you and linking you to some issue with a breeder named Griffin Shepherd Kennels.  It's not rocket science.

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#3 General Comment

I have 2 female puppies that still need homes and would like to offer the 2 ppl ripped off a free puppy as a way to help them with the puppy of there dreams

AUTHOR: Kempi - (USA)

 

 

Please except my offer of a free puppy that has extraordinary potential for both breeding and shutzhund or just a family pet with LOTS OF DRIVE!

i had a litter ofb11! Hard winter and couldnt sell for various reasons. 2 pups remain and to be honest they are the best 2 in the litter besides the one I chose to keep which is best for me. Not for shutzhund or breeding. Just my special baby calm laid back girl.so if this is allowed id like Jennifer Thompson to contact me through email thru rip off report and except my beautiful very talented one of a kind GGGrandaughter to Zamp Vom Thermodos the Most Famous Va1 World Seiger Champion 2xs  Her Name is Wowza! and she needs you as her mom! she is up to date on all vaccinations! Born 11/25/14! Thorougly dewormed and Vet checked! She is Microchipped, and is waiting for you!  Wowza is the biggest female out of 7 girls and 4 boys and has been since birth the 2nd biggest puppy out of 11 and is now weighing 34 lbs at 3 1/2 months old.!she is afraid of NOTHING and will never give up until she gets what she is after! She needs exactly what you want! 

The other person whom had the bad experience with the 9 lb puppy at 10 weeks! You deserve my girl Nightmare!

she too is full of herself and needs to show the WORLD  what shes made of! This will help me as much as help both kf you to forgive and enjoy !

i too have been ripped off by MANY PPL IN THE BREEDING BUSINESS!

i just dont have the time to  place reports rite now! i would love for my 2 remaining girls to have a wonderful life with each of you!

they need soo much that I cant give them if they stay!

they are far from SMALL and for sure NOT LAZY! I cannot keep up with either one of them!

 Certainly not 2!

 facebook profile name is Zaney Brain and the profile pic is the puppys dad.

please message me if interested...

 

 

 

 

 

 

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#4 Consumer Comment

Satisfied Alpine K9 Owner

AUTHOR: Arober22 - ()

I'm not sure what all this bad talk of Alpine K9 and Hans stems from but as a customer of AlpineK9 I have nothing but amazing things to say about Hans and Alpine. 

I purchased my first ever GSD puppy in September 2012 after doing months of research on the breed and breeders. After doing my due diligence I decided to get a puppy from Hans in Arizona. The process was very smooth and I picked up my beautiful boy at La Guardia. The puppy I received was a male from the Bryta x Haio litter. i had told Hans what I was looking for and this puppy was exactly what I wanted. Keep in mind, this was my first time getting a working dog GSD. Heck, it was my first GSD ever! (Grew up with golden retrievers) Anyways, I was determined to make this the best possible dog I could. So I joined a Schutzhund Club in my area, started watching tons of YouTube training videos on working line GSD's, and spent hours and hours on the field with him as a pup. I was in college at the time (just another factor going against me) so I socialized him with as many people as I could. I basically dedicated my life to this dog and let me tell you, it paid off BIG time. He is now 2.5 years old and is the best dog I could have ever imagined. Now I only was involved in the Sch club for about 5-7 months due to some personal issues but I am 100% confident this dog would have gotten every degree Possible. The drive he has is unbelievable and his ability to turn it off and on like a light switch amazes me. You can't imagine the amount of people coming up to me complimenting me on his looks, behavior, etc. Everyone tells me I hit the jackpot with this dog. But Karlo (his name fyi) has given me more enjoyment in my life than any jackpot powerball winning ever could. He is quite literally my best friend and i dont know where i would be if he never came into my life. And it is all thanks to Hans and Alpine K9. Yeah, you can stay out on the field til it's dark out training and such but if dont have a well bred pup, you will be severly disappointed in the outcome. If you want a top of the line, TRUELY well bred, dog or pup then you must go to Alpine K9. And I am not saying this with any motives behind me. I TRUELY believe Hans is one of the best breeders in the country and I have witnessed it through the eyes of my boy Karlo.

 

Thank you Hans for providing me with the best dog I could ever ask for.  I will absolutely be getting another dog from you in the future. I would also recommend him to anyone looking for an awesome GSD, you won't get anything else out there this good and the prices are more than reasonable. There are breeders and kennels out there charging over double what Alpine pups cost and are not getting the dog they thought they were getting. 

i could go on forever praising Alpine K9; Hans is one of a kind and I really can't say enough good things about him to justify the amazing dog and best friend I received from him.

Sincerly, 

A very satisfied Alpine K9 owner, Andrew R from New York. 

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#5 General Comment

Who said Fat?

AUTHOR: Zeitgeist - ()

The man calls himself fat, so get over it.

 

 Post subject: I Googeled myself
Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 2:07 am 
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I googeled my name .....
and this is what I found. Fat me working dogs . ...here I am 58.
Dogs Roky and Johnny are dogs proveded by AlpineK9 program.
http://capturelifethroughthelens.com/20 ... g-seminar/
Seminar in GA USA
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#6 General Comment

USDA

AUTHOR: Zeitgeist - ()

Hans,

 

What is your USDA license number for importing all of these dogs?

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#7 General Comment

YOUR dog?

AUTHOR: Zeitgeist - ()

 How do you figure that he is YOUR dog?  I paid for him.  I took good care of him.  This is all a bunch of lies which began with you and your friends spreading libelous comments about me on the internet and one veterinarian who committed malpractice on a dog of mine with bloat who is terrifed of losing her license, so terrified she persuaded her friends in the sheriff's dept. to lie about me and finally it is all about money and how much money a certain county thinks they will get out of me.  Well, good luck, Blabla, the civil defamation suit is coming.

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#8 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Sonia and animal control

AUTHOR: Hans - ()

Many here remember how I, AlpineK9, was dragged  here and on other forums through mud by this person. Well Here is an update:

http://wcca.wicourts.gov/courtRecordEve ... ction=DESC

Animal control of Waupaca Co WI contacted me regarding this case County of Waupaca vs. Eva S. Berg

Waupaca County Case Number 2013CV000134
It appears that the dogs were in such a bad shape that they were confiscated by animal control.
Hopefully I will get my dog back now. 
Prager Hans
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#9 Consumer Comment

Non bias, concerned reader to the very obvious.

AUTHOR: Frost - (United States of America)

I want to respond to what I have just read. I have no loyalty to either party but I am a owner of and have bread and trained GSDs. 

In this article I will refer to the complainant as "she or her" (my Grandmother would never have allowed herself or someone of respect to be referred to in this way).

I am sorry to hear about things of this nature. It hurts everyone. I have spoken with Hans in the past and I can say he has been nothing but professional. The fact that Hans makes himself available is impeccable. He runs a company of high demand and when you call on the phone he answers the call. I hope this situation has not changed that. I cannot get that service from owners of local small businesses that I know personally.

I have dealt with the public and professionals for over 35 yrs. From the lowest to the highest. I have been in business since I was 13yrs old. I have dealt with Law enforcement and Public safety for 15yrs. Small business owners, large and small law firms and corporations. I know what I see. There are honest Professionals who make themselves available and those who take, run, and hide. I can read people. 

In my life experience this is an example of a person who will go to the greatest lengths to take, steal, and destroy from the honest if their demands are not met. 

(Hans thank you for your display of not giving in to "her" demands but being willing to go above and beyond offering more than your warranty)

In some of the post Hans you took the words out of my mouth (puppy swap) 

 This is a case where "she" has gotten away with doing the same to others but has now been called out on her attempts of trying to manipulate the honest. "she" is only one of the dishonest that has developed in this country that works harder at trying to take advantage of the honest rather than just being honest. If they would just use the energy to be honest? 

If "she" was honest  and did pick up an ill pup "she" would have accepted the terms of the contract that she engaged in and handled the matter in a civil way not harassing the company or created the many post in regards to.

I refuse to give any more time to such but wish to display my sympathy for Alpine K9 in this situation.

For the record Reporting a ripoff is something you do after the case has been heard and settled something you have proof of.

Miss you are the one who should be ashamed.

To take it a step further I hope all your prospective clients find this info about you, google your name, and get the truth before being taken on a deal gone bad.

There are many out there who are dishonest and take advantage of people in regards to breeding pups and I can see this is a case that it is not the accused but the accuser.        
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#10 REBUTTAL Owner of company

You be the judge.

AUTHOR: Hans - (USA)

I do sell, breed and train  old style Czech German Shepherd Dogs and pups for 44+ years. Rarely, there are problems. Some are with dogs and some with the buyers. Some are real and some are not. Since I am not a god I have warranty which covers the rare ones which are real genetic problems of our dogs and more. I always honor my warranty. 
Also I have thousands of unsolicited thank yous and referrals. Many are here and  on my website. Go look. 
 You be the judge.
Hans
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#11 General Comment

Look on Pedigree Database

AUTHOR: Zeitgeist - (USA)

You need to go to the German Shepherd Pedigree Database forum and read about the others who got a sick dog from Alpine K9, including the one with the severe overbite and bad hips.  I actually feel fortunate now having only gotten a dog with severe worms and irritable bowel.  Others have gotten far worse.
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#12 Consumer Comment

Bizarre, and not our experience at all!

AUTHOR: Tobin Threadgill - (United States of America)

Hello,
 

I was googling Alpine K9's website to refer to a friend when I came across this bizarre series of exchanges. Frankly I find the complaint so crazy that is must be spurrious.  

 

I am 53 years old and live in Colorado.  I have owned 7 German Shepherd dogs and one Siberian Husky. After the death of our 6th GSD, a fine untrained German import, my wife and I started looking for an importer of European line GSD's who were already fully trained.  During this search I came across Alpine K9 and Mr Hans Blabla.  Several e-mails and phone conversations ensued during which I described exactly what type of dog I was looking for. This correspondence included my desire for a rather unique personality trait in the dog. Mr Blabla was very attentive and took my description with such seriousness that I asked him to start doing inquiries for me.  About a week later Mr Blabla notified me that he had located a dog in Prague that met every one of my stringent requirements.  We discussed price, payment and shipping arrangements.  All went exactly as discussed. The dog, named Alf, arrived at the Lufthansa's Cargo terminal in Denver, CO exactly as promised.  I loaded the container into my SUV with two quizical eyes peering at me from inside the container.  When I arrived home I opened the container and out walked one of the most beautiful GSD's I have ever laid eyes on.  A few days later Hans Blabla drove up to our home from New Mexico and spent 3 days in our home where he taught us all the Czech voice commands we needed to successfully communicate with the dog.  We found Hans to be a an amazing source of knowledge concerning dog psychology and behavior.  We also found him to be an absolutely wonderful house guest.

 

Alfie, our Alpine K9 GSD is the finest dog I've ever owned.  He goes everywhere with us and is so well trained that he has never surprised us with any unusual behavior or unexpected problems.  At 8 years old he his happy, healthy and a complete joy.  He is so popular with our friends that they almost fight over the opportunity to house sit for us when we are away.

 

The complaint against Hans Blabla reads more like bizarre fiction than fact to me.  There's also something almost disturbing to me in the tone of the complaint.  Look, this man stayed in our home in addition to being the source for the best GSD' I've ever owned.  Frankly, I do not give one bit of credence to the complaint.

 

Lastly, all our papers were in order and the registration happened in exactly the way it was described.  No problems. I will buy my next GSD from Alpine K9 without reservation.
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#13 Consumer Comment

you should be ashamed of yourself

AUTHOR: Tango - (Canada)

I do not know either of you, nor do I care but I cannot believe the way you talk about this puppy.  You are probably the cause of most of its stress and health issues.  You do not deserve to have dogs and I hope this puppy goes back to Hans and you are investigated.  
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#14 Consumer Comment

Jennifer Thompson

AUTHOR: Zeitgeist - (USA)

And Jennifer Thompson vom Mystical Haus went -a-cryin' to Alpine K9....Help me!  Help me!  That wicked woman is doing it to me too!  Doing what?  Having the guts to call you out on the carpet for the quality of dog you sold to me?

Taken directly from Mystical Haus website:

"Although we are selectively breeding for Shepherds with STRONG Working Drives, our Fur Babies also make excellent Active Family Companions. We work with our clients to assure that the puppy you get is really the puppy you need. Both you and your new puppy will be much happier if your personalities and needs are alike. "

I told Jennifer I was looking for a strong female from strong German working lines who could compete in Schutzhund and was also a good breeding prospect.  What I got was an undersized female, with low drive, who did not appear to be the same dog posted in the original ad I responded to ( and that is not just my observation) who a veterinarian pointed out appeared to be much older than just under 6 months because she already had permanent molars with tartar on them. 

Taken directly from the Mystical Haus website on the dam:

Crow- is a TUFF and beautiful Bi - Color import female who is 3/4 working line and 1/4 showline, with Hips and Elbows A normal. She is of medium size but has good bone.  Crow is super fast on the retrieve and will hunt for her ball even in the dark until she finds it. She has super intense ball drive! Crow is not a dog for beginners as she can be hard to handle if she does not know you. On the civil side, She is smart and aggressive... The kind of girl you would want with you if you suddenly found yourself being followed on your evening walk. Make no mistake this is not a sport girl - she will bite for real!

Super intense ball drive?  My dog has no ball drive.  She will sniff at a ball and walk away. 

Smart and aggressive?  My dog is nearly one year old and still isn't housebroken.  She still hasn't even mastered a sitz command.  She loves all people and would go with any stranger she met. 

Bite for real?  I don't think so.

Her parents do have DNA on file and her DNA matching is still pending.  It could be possible that she's a pup from Crow and Sam and the gene pool passed her over, but only DNA can confirm that.

I let her meet lots of people and she likes everyone.  In fact, she's so friendly, people always ask if she's part lab.

She has a completely different body structure from Crow and although Jennifer commented how "she's just like her mother" there's really no resemblance to Crow at all.

When I first inquired about her, I was told she was sold.  Then I placed a deposit on her sister Nara, but was then told that dog was sold.  Suddenly, the first dog, Nitra,  wasn't sold any longer and I was told I could buy her. 

Two years, two dogs that are not what I was looking for, from "top breeders" as the critics call them.  Still no dog that could compete in anything or be used for protection or could be used as a breeding dog.  I got one dog with chronic diarrhea and the other who is undersized and jumps up and licks everyone.  Pets, but not working dogs
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#15 Consumer Comment

The Best Testimonial is the Dog

AUTHOR: Zeitgeist - (USA)

Taken directly from the Alpine K9 website regarding the alleged sire of my dog (alleged because the sire has no DNA on file):

"JAGO Jipo Me
ZVV2, IPO3, ZPO1

JAGO
is a typical representative of his father RENO Jipo Me from whom he inherited bone strength, stud expression and dark sable color. Sizewise he fully belongs to the standard of working type GSD. JAGO is an energetic dog but at the same time he's fully social with willingness to work. JAGO is a strong protection dog and he also loves to play with the ball.

We expect JAGO to produce puppies with strong bones, dark pigmentation and lots of energy. His progeny will be suitable for top sport as well as demanding Law Enforcement work.

JAGO belongs to 4th sire's bloodline. From the side of his mother he belongs to the 3rd bloodline.

I guess one out of three isn't bad, my dog does have dark pigmentation.  But he is not suitable for sport or demanding law enforcement work.  I guess one could say, stop thief! or my dog will poop on you!  It really is pretty embarrassing to have a dog on a training field with diarrhea running down his legs....

Also, from the Alpine K9 website:

"We guarantee great colors, strong bones, high working skills and good health of the puppies. "

I got one out of four this time, great color, so why am I complaining?

The dog himself, is really my best testimonial.  I show him to as many people as possible and tell them who I bought him from and what I paid for him.  The looks on their faces is always priceless!  Then they all say the same thing, "What kind of dog is that?"
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#16 Consumer Comment

Hartman

AUTHOR: Zeitgeist - (USA)

Aw, you must be Jennifer Hartman's buddy.  Jennifer Hartman who is trying to sell what she advertises as Vom Steinig Tal bloodlines...part of my late dog's bloodline, so I contacted her for more info.  That Jennifer Hartman?  The one who puts phony OFA results on PDB?  The one who bought her female from a pet shop (Dishong's Puppies) that has more complaints than my arm is long?  The Hartman whose female is not even AKC registered, but only ACA (puppymill) registered?  Google it slick....Dishong's Puppies...

The Jennifer Hartman who is breeding dogs that have no OFA certs and have all kinds of unknown American dogs mixed in and asking $800 for them?   If Jennifer Hartman had my Alpine K9 dog, she would have already bred him and she would be trying to sell his pups for over $1000 each.  I can already see her salivating while reading his pedigree....which is very impressive, but does not discount the fact that he is not a healthy dog. 

So you see you bumbling pea brain, if I operated a puppy mill, I would have already been cranking them out....Pohranicni Straze....big bucks, big bucks....go wipe the dribble off your chin now.
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#17 General Comment

nasty Emily anonymous

AUTHOR: Zeitgeist - (USA)

Miss anonymous Emily...or Miss self-righteous if you prefer....the dog has become more self-confident, and he has been so sickly since birth ...but of course, being a GERMAN SHEPHERD BREEDER that you are, your would know that a sick animal lacks self confidence....you would know that, wouldn't you???
Ah, probably not.

I'm willing to bet my life that if you had my dog from Alpine K9, you would have tried to pawn him off on some unsuspecting gullible fool as a great bargain for a few hundred dollars or you would have had him euthanized because you would not want to spend the time and money he requires.  Or maybe you would be very greedy and breed him in spite of his poor health and just sell his pups based on his pedigree without telling the buyers!

He is not a dog who can be your buddy by your side 24/7 unfortunately.  He has irritable bowel and one never knows when he will get explosive diarrhea, but for certain he gets it with any car ride, or during any training, or if a strange dog comes too close to him.

Having him loose in the house is a gamble if you can't keep your eye on him or have to sleep, for example.  Believe me, you can't have carpeting.

He doesn't like other dogs either. 

Try feeding a dog 6-8 cups of food a day to hopefully maintain some weight on him, and more than 50% is eliminated anyway.  NO, he doesn't have EPI, he was tested for that.  Raw diet makes it even worse.  Low fat improves it somewhat, but then he starts losing weight.  He can't tolerate any grains at all.  If he eats one crumb of anything he's not used to...well, look out. NO, he no longer has parasites either.

If someone doesn't mind having diarrhea on their clothing quite often, (I bought knee high rubber boots) diarrhea stains in your vehicle, no carpeting, washing everything with bleach, lots of air freshener, windows open in winter, etc. it's not too bad. 

It's not the dog's fault.  It's the fault of breeders who perpetuate bad genes and this poor dog is a victim. 

I'm not the only one who has gotten burned.  I know of someone who paid $3000 for a dog that's so cowhocked it can't turn without falling over.  That person took it the the State Attorney General and hired an attorney and is suing the breeder. 

So don't worry Emily anonymous, I've searched for over 3 years now for one healthy, intelligent dog and I realize there are none to be found, at least not from any of you people here in the USA.
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#18 General Comment

Don't worry

AUTHOR: Zeitgeist - (USA)

Don't worry honey, none of you have any dogs that I am interested in.  If you want to insult me, have the courage to state your name when doing it.  How could I say that about a puppy, ah gee grow up, will you?  The dog is over one year old and I wanted to buy a working dog that could be trained as a protection dog.  What I got is a sickly dog with irritable bowel syndrome who can't even ride in a vehicle without vomiting and having diarrhea.  Do you call  this good breeding?  Maybe you just don't know any better.  Obviously you don't.
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#19 Consumer Comment

Bygone Era

AUTHOR: gsd''s rule - (USA)

I was looking for a dog like the one I once had.  He was from DDR and Czech bloodlines.  The dog I bought from Alpine K9 has been sickly since day one.  He has irritable bowel disease.  He can't even run without getting diarrhea.  He has been given medication, various diets, etc.  They work for a short time, then again diarrhea. 

The dog I once had went everywhere with me.  He was protective when needed, he was sound of mind and body, not hyper or unpredictable.  He was what I envisioned as the epitome of the German Shepherd Dog.

I believe breeders are not selling dogs like that today.  He was from a bygone era. 

Today, a person can spend thousands of dollars trying to get a dog like that, but most likely won't find one.  I have searched trying to find a dog of that caliber to breed to hopefully continue a line of good dogs, but I haven't found one.

None of the people here bad mouthing me sell dogs of the caliber of the dog I had.  NONE OF YOU. 

So, keep up your little bragging games, keep up your inflated egos, keep on breeding mediocre or inferior quality dogs and selling them to people who don't know any other kind.

Unfortunately, the dog I once had was already neutered by his former owner when I got him.  You see, his breeder didn't want anyone else to breed their line and only sold pups on limited registration with a spay/neuter contract. 

My late dog was from the genuine Lord v. Gleisdreieck and Pohranicni Straze lines, not the diluted, adulterated versions of today. 

He's gone and he can't be replicated or replaced.  It is not possible.  Not one dog that any of you have for sale could replace him. 

Some of your comments are so utterly ridiculous, they only serve to exempilfy your stupidity.  Such as, I must not like dogs because I am criticizing the poor quality breedings all of you are selling.  I do like dogs in general.  I would look at a pug and think it was cute and nice, but do I want to live with one?  No, I don't. 

I wanted a dog like the old European bloodlines, like my late dog.  Mr. Blabla and the rest of you claim to have them.  What a sorry disappointment.  Of course, if you have never lived with a dog like the dog I had, you wouldn't understand what you are missing. 

And that is really my point, none of you understand what your dogs are missing.
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#20 General Comment

NO dog is a piece of crap!

AUTHOR: emily011 - (United States of America)

Ms. Berg, I am APPALLED by the statements you make about your puppy! How could you even claim to be a dog lover?

I am not by any means a fat woman worshipping Hans. I am someone who has been reading (found you because you tried to pull this same type of fraud on a friend of mine). You describe the dog as having "submissive elimination" and being "afraid of his own shadow" - you have had this dog long enough now that perhaps his fear is because of something YOU have done!

Further, my husband and I are breeders of German Shepherds, and I can tell you without a doubt that there is no way I would sell you a RAT. Further, if we are ever contacted by you for any reason we will report you for attempting to run your OWN puppy mill, since it is obvious you do.
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#21 General Comment

Leave it Hans

AUTHOR: alaskatlc - (United States of America)

Hans, you did everything you can do and more to help this nut case, I hope all is well with you.

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#22 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Papers were delivered.

AUTHOR: Hans - (USA)

here are my points.

1.Non of 5 vets which I have contacted in Phoenix area have never seen hook worms in dogs. I have lived and bred dogs in AZ for 20+ years I have not seen hook worms. As a matter of fact I have never seen hook worms.  If Sonia Berg has pup infested with hook worms then she should devorm it. It is simple process. If the pup is getting reinfested by hook worms at Sonia's Berg property then that is not my fault.

2. Sonia Berg have received papers for the pup from us via registered mail. I am writing this at 9.30.2010 She has the papers for at least 2 weeks.    

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#23 General Comment

smart man, Mr. Blabla

AUTHOR: dethklokbabe - (Norway)

I'm so glad you stopped trying to argue with this idiotic lady. I mean, she doesn't listen to a word you say, and she resorts to grade school name calling?! "You and your girlfriend/wife are ugly". Wow. How adult.

Just ignore her. You obviously have a solid case with tons of happy customers and a long history. Just if she brings you to court, have them as witnesses to your integrity and so on.

Good luck my friend. I never heard of you til now but I'm fully in your corner.
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#24 Author of original report

You have the WRONG map!

AUTHOR: sgsdr - (United States of America)

Blabla you would be so much more interesting if you only had a brain!

The map you are presenting all over the Internet is the wrong type of hookworm which infects canines.

Your map is of the distribution of necator americanus.  The hookworm which infects dogs is called Ancylostoma Caninum. 

You should write that down.

A. Caninum is found in sandy soils and Arizona and California are inundated with it.

Get your facts straight.  You are going to look very stupid in court.

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#25 Author of original report

Still NO registration

AUTHOR: sgsdr - (United States of America)

Mr. Blabla, it seems the years of living behind the Iron Curtain have affected your brain.


This is the United States of America and we have this wonderful concept called, freedom of speech.  It is endowed upon us at birth, unlike in your home country.


Therefore, if I think that your girlfriend is unattractive, I can say it!  I can say it to anyone and anywhere I choose.


Ditto, if I don't like the country you were born in, I can say it!  If I think there is a high proprotion of fraud in consumer dealings in the country you were born in, I can say it!


And there's nothing you can do.


Mr. Blabla, I have been asking you for about 3 months now to provide me with a fecal test by a licensed veterinarian which was conducted before I received this puppy I purchased and I still have NOT seen any!  All I've seen is your tired hookworm map.


Mr. Blabla, you are not the only breeder who sells dogs to police officers.  You're not special! 


I've been waiting for an answer for 3 months as to why you are breeding unregistered dogs and I've never gotten one!


I've been waiting for 3 months for an AKC registration form for this puppy and I still have never gotten one!  The puppy is nearly 6 months old and I still don't have one!


Mr. Blabla, with all of your babbling on various message boards about overweight dogs, please, please, take that advice upon yourself.  You are fat!  And yes, I can say that and there's nothing you can do about it!  What do you want to do, get the Stasi after me?  Or the KGB?


Grow up, Mr. Blabla and Ms. Erlinger, I mean, geez, you're certainly not young anymore. 


Neither of you ever cared about the puppy you sold me.  Anyone with cash money in good old US dollars can buy one of your "special" dogs.  In fact...I tried to start a conversation with you when I called to buy a pup, I began telling you about myself and my experience with dogs and why I wanted a PS dog and YOU CUT ME OFF.  You didn't give a darn!  You only wanted the $$$$$$!!!!


Calling you at 2am?  Really?  I called ONE TIME at around 8am eastern time and left a voicemail about the puppy being very sick with yellow diarrhea ALL OVER....after I had spent ALL NIGHT awake cleaning the pup and crate SEVERAL TIMES.


YOU NEVER EVEN RETURNED THE VOICE MESSAGE!!!!


Ms. Erlinger claimed you were out of town when I finally did reach someone, and she said she DOESN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT DOGS! 


BUT....she's the person who shipped the pup to me....and wait a minute, she's the PROPRIETOR of Alpine K9.  But, she doesn't know anything about dogs.....


My last phone call to your, uh, limited liability company....Ms. Erlinger answered the phone and tried to hang up on me!  But, she wasn't smart enough to hang up and I heard every word she said, including the profanity she used in telling you who she thought it was!  She must have thought she had the mute button on....but she didn't.


It was that turning point when I suspected illegal activity and fraud.  It was at that turning point when I saw who and what you really are about. 


You had my $1975 and I had a sick puppy and you didn't give a darn!  I was on my own or forced to take legal action. 


And that my friend, is the truth.  And I still think you are both fat and unattractive as well as dishonest.  That's my opinion and I have the right to voice it. 


Grow up, your behavior is really like a crying sissy.  Own up to what you did, you deceived me and profited from it.

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#26 Author of original report

Proof of Escrow Account

AUTHOR: sgsdr - (United States of America)

Have an attorney send me proof of the escrow account with my $1975 returned to me and you pay for shipping the dog back to you.   I don't want this dog.  It is NOT a purebred German Shepherd dog and is the dumbest dog I've ever seen.  It is dumber than a shelter mutt I had.  It pees on itself constantly and has no perception of housebreaking.  I'm tired of cleaning up its mess 10 times a day and it still weighs under 40 pounds at nearly 6 months of age.  It does not get along with any other dogs, they hate it and try to attack it.  It is retarded or brain damaged.

 

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#27 Author of original report

What you did is inexcusable

AUTHOR: sgsdr - (United States of America)

Now you've really just ticked me off.  I couldn't care less about your two bit family lawyer who's right out of law school.  I studied law myself.


You sold me this piece of crap dog, which is not even a purebred German Shepherd, which is nearly 6 months old and which doesn't even weigh 35 pounds.  Then you act like because you've got a bunch of fat women on a message board supporting you that you are the next coming of Christ.


Debra Erlinger sent me this mutt and the same mutt will be in a court of law right in front of judge and jury, so what will you say then?


This mutt is impossible to housetrain and has had submissive urination from day one and is afraid of his own shadow.


I see no escrow account with my refund in it.  I see nothing.  And later, because you are too dumb or lazy to look it up yourself, I will post links about hookworm in Arizona as well as the people who have written to me and told me you're a scumbag.  One person wrote that is is well-known that you sell sick dogs and badly bred dogs. HA!


You haven't sent me any AKC paperwork because how're you going to get it for this mutt?  You have to falsify records, which is what you intended to do until I caught on, now you're trying to figure out a way to falsify them without getting caught, but you can't! 


As for Debra Erlinger, you got your nursing license back in 1984...so you didn't know how to bill by 2006?  You're so full of it, you were fraudulently billing for services you never performed.


As for your weight loss for dogs, why don't you both practice it on yourselves?  You are both severely overweight and unattractive.


And stop talking to me like I'm a kid, I'm in the same age range you are.  The more you talk, the deeper the hole you're digging for yourselves.

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#28 Author of original report

You've lost it Zdenek...

AUTHOR: sgsdr - (United States of America)

You have proof that I'm switching the pups?  HA HA HA That's hysterical. 

My black pup was sold to Dave Hines from Pittsburgh, PA and is already registered with the AKC and is named Julek vom Hoeher Tannen and weighed 23 pounds when he was only 9 weeks old....like a NORMAL German Shepherd pup.

Furthermore, his sire's DNA is on file with the AKC, so you're gonna' have a real hard time trying to say he didn't come from my sire, NOW AREN'T YOU???

The dog you sold me is NOT a purebred German Shepherd and I'll see you in Phoenix.

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#29 Author of original report

August 9, 2010

AUTHOR: sgsdr - (United States of America)

Lupo, the black puppy purchased from Alpine K9 weighs 31 pounds today and is 21 weeks old.  He is still a midget.

He is still wearing the same little 6-8 inch collar from nearly 3 months ago.  I am going to change it, not because it doesn't fit him, but because it looks dirty now.

As anyone can see from this photo, taken August 9, 2010, this is NOT a purebred German Shepherd dog.

So, my legal claim will go forward against Alpine K9 and Zdenek Blabla and Debra Erlinger for fraud.

I have never received any AKC registration form for this puppy from them.

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#30 REBUTTAL Owner of company

AKC REGISTRATION

AUTHOR: Hans - (USA)

Sonia,

 I have told you on many, many, many  occasions, on different Internet posts and forums where you are trying unssuccesfully smear my name, (there is nowhere one negative post against me on this topic)  I have told you in our conversations over the phone on several occasions, and several times in your e mails, also my attorney told you in our legal cease and desist letter and many other people told you what it takes to register a pup from b***h imported in whelp.

                                       I say it here one more time.                                                      

Maybe this time you will grasp it.

1. I have never failed provide requested AKC papers.

2. I am the one who was instrumental for AKC accepting  Czech police/border patrol  (z Pohranicni straze) lines and the dogs which had such dogs in their pedigree, for registration.

3. I have also helped other people get their papers from Czech Republic...on many occasions.  

4. IF THE b***h IS IMPORTED IN WHELP:

a) the mother must be registered in Europe in our name with CMKU - member of FCI. This takes up to 3-4 mo  with all the shipping and handling in there.

b) then the papers must be shipped to USA via Registered mail  (10 days)

c) than we need to register the b***h with AKC ( 4 weeks) which requires to take pictures on negative film (No digital allowed)  (takes me about 1 week to find time to go to town and get them developed)

d) then we need to do DNA   which is a must with AKC on imported dogs. (8 weeks)

e) then we need to register the litter (4 weeks)

f) then we send the papers to the customers (1 week)

Here I am providing the minimal time it takes to do all this. For example AKC once  lost DNA 2 times and thus then it would take much linger. 

The total is about 240 days more less. That is about 8 months. That is if it all goes well.

At this point we are at point 3 )d). and are getting DNA done on the female.

Sonia I hope that even you now understand all this. So please be patient and stop this barrage of nonsense of smear tactics, harassment, slander, insults, innuendos and lies.

Hans the owner of http://www.alpinek9.com

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#31 Author of original report

July 31, 2010 black pup Lupo

AUTHOR: sgsdr - (United States of America)

1.  Finally have solid stool and pink tongue and gums (were previously gray-white from the anemia).  Seem to have hopefully killed off the hookworm infestation.

2.  Pup weighs 28 pounds and has been gaining about 2 pounds per week since treatment for the hookworm and other issues.  Still is about 1/2 the size of a standard male 5 month old German Shepherd.

3.  Still has some discharge from eyes, but not yellow/green like upon his arrival, most likely just some dust and the eye cleansing itself.

4.  Ears are erect about 50% of the time, look good today in attached photo.

5.  Still have protruding hipbones, will increase food/calorie intake contary to Blabla's advice.

6.  As of July 30, 2010 the AKC reported having received a DNA sample for Bryta, the alleged dam of this pup, but they have no information on the alleged sire, Jago,  and no pending litter registration for this pup.

Comment: The funny thing is, I actually had thought in the beginning that Blabla was more sincere than Erlinger and thought he was really the only one of the two that has any knowledge about dogs.  It seemed that Erlinger always tried to block any communication with him about the pup and then all communication went downhill.  I think if she had allowed me to speak to him, this may have been resolved.  However, now that he continues to defend her and her behavior, the only recourse is legal action if they don't produce an AKC registration for the pup and some explanation for its size.

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#32 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Link ?Swithching pups.

AUTHOR: Hans - (USA)

Dear Sonia,

1.please post a link on transmition of hookworms in AZ  since you claim you have it.

2. I alredy have proof that you are switching the pups.

Hans

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#33 Author of original report

Still no AKC registration

AUTHOR: sgsdr - (United States of America)

Thank you for the invitation to file a lawsuit, which I may take you up on after collecting further evidence.  This is not harassment, this is a legitimate consumer fraud claim regarding a German Shepherd puppy that I purchased for $1975 plus hundreds of additional dollars in veterinary bills, which you claimed was AKC registered and which is not, not even now, months later and which appears to NOT EVEN BE a purebred German Shepherd dog.  The DNA test to determine the breed of the dog has been sent off and the results will tell the truth.

Here is a photo of a solid black German Shepherd puppy which I bred and which is now 9 weeks old and weighs 23 pounds, in other words, a normal size.  He has been purchased by a police K9 officer from Pennsylvania.  He is fully AKC registered and his registration number is DN28005202.  His sire's DNA has also been submitted to the AKC.

Sob stories are no excuse for committing fraud and theft.  My natural parents survived the Holocaust and my mother was a German teacher who was beaten by 3 students and became paralyzed, 2 years later she was diagnosed with lung cancer, then her caregivers stole all of her money and she lost her house because of it.  Everybody has a sob story, but NOT everyone uses it as an excuse to engage in criminal activity.

You obviously didn't take the time to read about hookworm in Arizona, nor do you care to. 

It is so obvious that the pup that you sold to me is NOT a purebred, people who have seen him ask, "What kind of dog is that?"  I don't know what he's mixed with, but will find out through the DNA results.  If the pup is not a purebred German Shepherd, then you're both going down.

So, in case you think you will pull any funny business trying to say it is NOT the pup you sent me, DNA doesn't lie and all of my dogs are registered and I will gladly submit a DNA sample from any one of them.

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#34 REBUTTAL Owner of company

I am too bussy for this harrasment.

AUTHOR: Hans - (USA)

Sonia you have obviously not done well in school in Geography. Ohio is IN the map's blacked out  area. The country north (FYI) is CANADA:). 

By the way I am looking for the day when we will get the papers  on your pup. I'll post  it all over the internet. The  only way the pup's DNA will not come true is if you submit false sample and then we will have a law suit for sure, but you will not sue me  but I will  sue you. you know things can go both way.

As stated on the pedigreedatabase I will discuss in detail for anyone who is interested in my nursing career history!!!! I have nothing to hide. I was misinformed by my boss on how to bill for homehealth care hours and was turned in for misdocumentation, and now have a "ding" on my license. At the time I was going through a divorce and my father was dying of lung cancer and a brain tumor. I chose not to have anything else on my "plate" and did not fight it.  At that time I had too much on my plate, but now I choose to stand up and fight for what is right.     

 Besides of that all had been already said please sue me.

Hans and Debbie.

 

 

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#35 Author of original report

Names

AUTHOR: sgsdr - (United States of America)

While you are bringing up names, Blabla, e.g. my adoptive parents and ex-husband...let's talk about the names of the proprietor of Alpine K9, Debra Sue Erlinger, aka Debra Sue Towse, Debra Sue Giambrone, who attempted to renew her RN license in Illinois....where she's originally from, and the renewal was denied because of the disciplinary action on her RN license in Arizona because of fraud and theft.

I stated that Debra Erlinger, your girlfriend, is unintelligent and unattractive.  In my opinion, it is unintelligent to lose your RN license by committing fraud and theft and also shipping a sick puppy across the United States, claiming the puppy is AKC registered as a German Shepherd when it is clearly not, and attraction is a matter of taste , but from her photos on the website, Alpinek9.com where she is with a litter of puppies....whose dam and sire are also not AKC registered (already checked), she won't be winning any beauty contests any time soon.

Perhaps in the language translation you can't comprehend facetiousness, in saying that the dog must be mixed with a chihuahua because of its size and you are near Mexico. 

I also stated that having lived in Germany, the Germans are very wary of any transactions with Eastern Europeans from the former Communist bloc because fraud is rampant.  It is a well-known fact.

And to the person with the untidy living room, I am not a socialist and don't read Veblen, nor do I care to.

For those of you claiming that the puppy must have become infected with hookworm from Ohio, how do you explain why the puppy arrived weighing 9 pounds when it was already 10 weeks old?  It was a skeleton with fur, every rib and vertebrae was visible as well as hip bones.  It was pathetic.  It tested postive for tapeworm as well 3 days after its arrival and was already shedding hookworm eggs, which take 30 days minimum to be detected in the stool.

Are all of you prepared to defend Blabla in court under oath as to what you are saying?  Have none of you read on the wesite AlpineK9.com about the dogs being AKC registered or registerable?  I have printed it out in case he changes it. 

Can any of you say this is a German Shepherd dog from the photos?  NO, I haven't heard that.  Stay tuned, I will post a photo of the puppy next to a 40 pound Border Collie/German Shepherd mix.  That will give a nice indication of his size at age 20 weeks.

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#36 Author of original report

I still see no evidence of the dog's pedigree

AUTHOR: sgsdr - (United States of America)

In spite of all of the comments here, there is still an amazing lack of evidence of the pupyy's pedigree.

1.  The dog doesn't appear to be a purebred German Shepherd dog.  Therefore I am filing a complaint with the AKC impure breeding investigation department.

2.  Ohio is not on the map Blabla presented, Ohio is much further north.  Hookworm eggs survive in sandy soils. 

3.  None of my other dogs tested postive for hookworm.

4.  I did not write the post comparing the dog to a lawnmower, but the author does seem to comprehend the situation.

5.  The litter that this puppy allegedly belongs to has still not been registered with the AKC as of today, July 27, 2010.

6.  Debra Erlinger is listed as the proprietor of Alpine K9 according to the AZ Corporation Commission.

7.  Debra Erlinger has a censure against her RN license in the state of Arizona according to the AZ state licensure board because of fraud and theft as of 2006.

8.  I have seen no evidence of any escrow fund.

9.  I am not willing to allow Alpine K9 to get away with this fraudulent transaction without exercising my consumer rights.

10.  Not sure what Blabla's point is in mentioning my adoptive parents' name and my former married name, has nothing to do with this purchase.

11.  It is not my intent to return the puppy, but to expose the fraud and make others aware of it.  Will not return puppy to breeders who neglected it and refused to provide it with medical care.

12.  What do you want with the puppy, Blabla?  Sorry, but the puppy is now evidence for court.  You did claim that you tattoo all of your dogs, so tough luck for you if you try to disclaim being the breeder.

12.  The pup had such a heavy hookworm infestation which was resistant to the usual treatment and had to be treated several times over a 2 month period and is still be treated every 2 weeks.

13.  There is another remedy to this sale, i.e., to file a complaint with the AZ Attorney Gerneral regarding fraud.

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#37 General Comment

another opinion

AUTHOR: GSDLover - (USA)

After reading through all of the messages in this thread the solution to this is pretty obvious.  The Breeder has offered to refund the price of the puppy plus the shipping to and from the purchasers home.  

I read through the warranty on Alpinek9's site and no where does it include the return of money but only allows for a replacement pup/dog not icluding shipping.  The Breeder seems to be going beyond what he would need to in order to make this right.

If the purchaser is so unhappy and thinks she was victimized then she has been given a very fair settlement.  She can return the puppy and recieve a full refund.  This offer appears to have been on the table for quite some time now.  The breeder even offered to pay for a lawyer to hold the money in escrow if she was so worried about him not returning the money to her.

Not returning the puppy is not really an option if the purchaser wishes to recieve any money back.  Animals are considered property in every state.  Whether this is right or not is another debate.  If you have defective "property" than either you keep it and go on your way or return it based on however the warranty allows.  Any judge in the country will tell you the same thing.

If you truly believe that the puppy you recieved is so horrible and not what you were expecting you should take him up on his offer since he only really needs to offer you a replacement less shipping costs.  I know you act concerned about what he will do to the pup that leaves you two options....you return the pup and its none of your business at that point what he does with the puppy or you keep it and accept it and lose any claim you think you have against him.

I also did some research on hookworm.  This is an easily controlled worm with the proper medication, and should not be lasting as long as you state.  please see another vet if your continuing to have problems with this as this is not a problem that can go on for months if properly handled.  Also the map of the breeder is consistent with everything I have seen regarding hookworms.  They are not something that would occur in Arizona, but would be indiginous to the Ohio area. 

I think you should take the offer of the breeder and be done with this issue for everyones sake.

 

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#38 REBUTTAL Owner of company

alpine k9 rebuttal

AUTHOR: Hans - (USA)

DNA at AKC

Sonia Berg has her informations wrong (again).

DNA on imported dog has to be done before such dog can be registered with AKC and subsequesntly on his/her litter.

Here is a direct quote from AKC Registration policies:

Imported Breeding Stock (July 2005 Board meeting)

"Effective for imported dogs registered on or after March 1, 2006, any imported dog registered with AKC must have AKC DNA profile PRIOR(!!!!)*  to registering it's first litter whelped in the USA."

*Capitalization of word "PRIOR"  and "!!!!" are inserted by author of this post.

Period.

XXXXXXXXXXXX 

POST #18.

Post #18 is, I believe, fake report from Sonia Berg. I  have been warned that she is not beyond such tactics from people who know of her or know her. You can also google and do minimal research and you will find out that there  other possible aka-s. They are: Sonia Berg, Hormel Eveasonia Sonia, Berg Eva S, Bergsonia, Hunt Sonia E, Eva Sonia, Sonia Eva, You be the judge ,.....that is if you care. 

Even so if the last post is not Sonia Eva Berg then the same what I and many others  have already said is applicable to statements in post #18.  It had been discused widely on pedigreedatabase.com. Go there and or google it at:.................Is this this true about Alpine-K9 in AZ ?

Have a fun with that it is really good reading and it is revealing on who I am and who is Sonia. There are  well over 100 positive responses/posts on me  and no negative there!

AGAIN :

I am offering to Sonia or what ever her name is; back all the money which she paid me for the dog and all the shipping expenses. If she does not believe that I would return the money to her I will hire an attorney and deposit the money in an escrow there for her to collect after she returns the dog. Otherwise I suggest that she stops this harrasment campaign and if so inclined I challenge her to take me to court to resolve this matter.

No dog is not a broken lawn mower. But if she loves this dog: who is a (and I quote from different sources) : "mut, mix,  size of a  cat, stupid, dumbest dog she has seen, not even German Shepherd,  with no drive, crossbred with chihuahua from Mexico (since AZ is on border with Mexico; she reasons), barking improperly, having wrong ear set, diarrhea, hookworms (which are none in AZ or in Europe but are in OH),  then she should be happy  to keep it and leave me alone. There is nothing else I can or am willing to do.

Here are her options: Return for refund, sue us, or s.ut up!

However it is obvious that,  while she harrasses me, threatens me, lies about me,  drags me through the mud of Internet, insults my nationality and all people of that nationality, calls my house in wee hours, insults me with profanities, inundates me with barrage of e mails full of profanities, insults my fiance, insult my dogs, insults my pups,  insults law enforcment officers who gave me positive report, insults my state, I live in, insults my breeding program, insults my friends, insults my customers, insults all the people who defend me on Internet, insults  my kennel, insults and threaten my veterinarian, and for all that I should give her the money back while she keeps my well bred dog??!!!

I have been born at night but not  the last ninght.

Zdenek "Hans" Blabla

http://www.alpinek9.com

 

 

 

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#39 General Comment

Blabla you should be ashamed of yourself

AUTHOR: brownsong - (USA)

I just read all of this and I am amazed beyond belief that this man is being defended. The bottom line is she paid $2000 for a mutt! How can anyone defend that? And an almost dead mutt at that. He is claiming that he will refund the money for the dog back as if he is talking about returning a broken weed-eater. There are people in this world who care about living beings, helpless and sick ones too.

There is only ONE thing you can do to rectify this Blabla. Let her keep her mutt which you sold to her for $2000 and give her her money back plus all of her medical bills.

There is simply nothing, and I mean NOTHING else that would make this right.
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AUTHOR: sgsdr - (United States of America)

Please provide the buyer, in writing, a ceritfied pedigree of the black puppy purchased from Alpine K9, which was delivered to the buyer on May 24, 2010 and no pedigree has been  received up until now.  Please provide the buyer, in addition to a ceritfied pedigree of said puppy, an AKC registration form for the puppy.  A canine pregnancy takes approximately 63 days.  The puppy was allegedly whelped on March 11, 2010.  The puppy is currently 19.5 weeks old.  That's a total of approximately 5.5 months the breeder has had to register the dogs and provide this information.  The AKC policy states that the DNA sample of the dam of the puppy only has to be on hand with the AKC, it does not have to be submitted for analysis to register the litter.  The DNA sample only requires a fee and a cheek swab of the dam of the litter mailed to the AKC.  The sire of the litter is not required to submit a DNA sample unless he is present in the USA; which the breeders claim he is not, or if he has sired more than 7 litters or more than 3 litters in one calendar year;  only a 4 generation pedigree has to be submitted. The breeder had 5.5 months to complete this and has not.

 

 

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#41 REBUTTAL Owner of company

As I sated on many ocassions andI am doing here again I WILL RETURN THE MONEY.

AUTHOR: Hans - (USA)

Only inuendos are coming from you. But I am not going in details here . If anyone wants to see details go to :
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Right here on response #1 is a person who bought 14 pups and got papers. Here is what I say :

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Sonia Berg, please return the pup and I will refund $1600 for the pup and all the shipping cost from you to me and me to you. I am also willing to hire an attorney who will hold the funds in the escrow if you do not trust me. Or let's go to court.

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But you will not do it because you said that you want me to return the money and that you will keep the dog too. You said it on numerous occasions and I believe even here.

I have offered you money back in just about EVERY e mail. My attorney told you in a letter and e mails that we would return the money. Instead you are still engaged in harassment of me. Calling me names and are calling here after midnightand call me by profanities.

 As I said I am honest man.  Anybody is welcomed to come visit and see my place, dogs, pups, training.....health records of my dogs.

 

Hans 

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#42 Author of original report

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AUTHOR: sgsdr - (United States of America)

All I read on here is a bunch of innuendo, no evidence.  Can any of you provide the AKC registration numbers for dogs purchased from this breeder, Alpine K9?  Can any of you produce an AKC registraion number for a pup from this same litter?  Can any of you offer a signed and notarized affadavit from Alpine K9 regarding a refund?


Furthermore, if the dogs from Alpine K9 are so good, would any of you care to purchase this pup for $1975 from us?  We won't even tack on the vet bills we have incurred!  Perhaps you would like to own him and have the opportunity to go to the vet's office with him every week or two, clean up diarrhea 4-6 times a day & night...have to keep him away from other dogs because of his small size, fork out the extra money for enzymes, vitamin supplements, medications, etc.  If you like gardening, you can enjoy sanitizing your whole property against hookworms!  You'd also spend a lot on rubber gloves for cleanup.  Any takers?  Just submit your contact information and we can write up a sales contract.


Are you all disputing 3 different veterinarians?  Laboratory results?  Why do you refute facts?


Are you disputing the AZ fraud statute?  Are you disputing the AKC regulations?  What exactly is your point?


If none of you can offer any of these please save your worthless comments, which up until this point are meaningless.

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Where's the guarantee?

AUTHOR: sgsdr - (United States of America)

Blabla obviously knows my name and address, but I've never received any notarized letter from him stating he will offer any refund or compensation for this puppy.  Due to the obvious fabrications, why would I believe anything he says?


Blabla never revealed his AKC suspension to me.  I had to discover the nasty surprise myself through investigation.


None of our other dogs tested positive for hookworm, only the puppy purchased from AlpineK9.


The pup is now 19 weeks old and weighs under 25 pounds and doesn't even reach my knee...I'm 5 foot 2 inches.  The pup is smaller than a beagle. 


The pup has now had chronic diarrhea for the 60 days since he arrived. 


It is becoming clear as the pup grows older that this in NOT a purebred German Shepherd dog.  Despite his small size, he is getting his permanent teeth.  His build and facial features do not look like a purebred German Shepherd.  His teeth and bite do not either.  His coat is not that of a German Shepherd, but is very close and short, no undercoat and the tail is not bushy, nor is it set correctly.  His hind quarters are higher than his back.  There is nothing about the pup that meets the conformation standard for a German Shepherd dog.


So, Mr. Blabla, or Debra Erlinger, or whoever would care to take responsibility for this sale needs to refund my money to compensate for the difference in what I intended to purchase and what they told me I was puchasing and what I actually received.


Do any of you want to put a price on what you would pay for a worm-infested, sickly mixed breed puppy with no AKC registration?  Would you pay $1,975?


AlpineK9 returned the letter from the AZ Better Business Bureau claiming they don't live there.  If they truly wanted to resolve this matter, why would they do that?


We have a solid black pup bred from our own sire and dam.  He is now 8 weeks old.  In a couple of weeks, his photo will be posted to compare him to the pup AlpineK9 sold us.  He can't go outdoors now because of the hookworm the AlpineK9 pup brought with him.  He also has to have his immunizations beforehand.


The AKC states that the alleged dam of this pup was only recently registered to Debra Erlinger as of the first week of July 2010.  They had no information on the alleged sire of this litter and no pending litter registration for that dam.


The pup is havig more tests done because of the chronic loose stool and stunted growth.  There is also a test to determine the breed of a dog.  So, in the end, if AlpineK9 doesn't want to resolve this, the State Attorney General will.  We live with German Shepherd dogs daily and have for years and this is NOT a purebred German Shepherd dog, or if it is, it's an extremely poor example of one.


The collar the pup is wearing in the photo is an 8-10 inch collar, which still fits him even 2 months after his arrival.

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#44 Consumer Comment

Thier is one in every crowd

AUTHOR: Donna Shelton - (United States of America)

Hans has never hid what happened to lose his AKC prevalges, circumstances could have been any breeder, if you have a need to know just ask him, he will tell you.

 I know many he has helped with thier dogs, free advise, gives freely of his time to educate. Truly loves the breed and has more knowledge about he breed than I ever will gain. when I need a new dog, i will not hesitate to contact him 1st and can only hope he will be willing to sell me one of his. if you have any doubts go visit his kennel and see for your self!

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#45 REBUTTAL Owner of company

From the owner of Alpine K9

AUTHOR: Hans - (USA)

This has been discussed all over the internet and I have defended my case against Sonia Berg on many forums. If you want to know details please go to


http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/forum/50383.html?pagen=4#50888


Here I say that you can read my warranty on


http://www.alpinek9.com


I have never failed to replace a pup when requested. I normally just replace a pup on rare occasion when requested, but in this case I have offered to Sonia full refund and cost of shipping to her and back to me but she demands money back and wants to keep the pup too. (!!!)


Pup most definitely had no hook worms here> I deworm my dogs and pups routinely and this litter had been dewormed according to prescribed schedule. Sonia also claims that she keeps deworming the pup, but pup keeps having hook worms. That does not make sense unless the pup is getting reinfested at her property. I am breeding dogs for 30 or so years and I have never even seen signs of  hook worms.I have seen tape worms and round worms. Thus I would say thast if  she is really looking at any worms she is looking at round worms which are normal in most pups. That is why we all need to put the pups and deworming scheduler.


Anyway go and click on the link which I have posted above if you want ot know more. Zdenek "Hans" Blabla 


  

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#46 General Comment

The Woman with the Messy Living Room

AUTHOR: Twodogs - (United States of America)

I posted as a CONSUMER because, if you study your Veblen, PURCHASING training services is "CONSUMING." My living room was messy because I was MOVING. I will pray for you because you obviously are a very unhappy person. 
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#47 Consumer Comment

Facts to bear in mind

AUTHOR: Steve Schuler - (United States of America)

I am in no way an associate or affiliate of either of the parties in this dispute.  I do not know either party personally and have had no business dealings with either of them.

I first became aware of the allegations against Alpine K9 via a post on a Topic thread at the Pedigree Database Forum which appears to have been made by the complainent, or someone representing themselves to be the complainent in this matter as presented here.  The complaint made by this person on July 8, 2010 can be seen at the Pedigree Database Forum under the topic heading, "Who Can You Trust Buying a GSD Here???" on page 3 of that same topic as the second entry on that page.  What I quote from that post is the following:

"Blabla claims he will refund my money if I return the pup.  However, I cannot return a dog to someone who had not taken care of it and I also have no reason to believe he would return my money even if I did.  If he were really honorable, he would return most of the money and let me keep the dog since he can't re-sell it anyway and what does he want to do with it?"

I would like to point out that in the complainent's initial charge against Alpine K9 on this website at the top of this page they conclude:

"Once you get ripped-off, don't expect Blabla to stand by any of the guarantees on his website.  You will only get insults and threats, but you will NEVER get what you paid for!"

I think it is clearly evident that there is a significant discrepancy in the complainent's portrayl of Mr. Blabla's willingness and efforts to provide redress in this matter.

Again, I have no personal interest in this matter or involvement with the persons involved.  I chose to add this information here to better inform anybody trying to determine the facts, and ultimately the truth, of this unfortunate situation. 

 

 

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Fraud

AUTHOR: sgsdr - (United States of America)

In response to the ridiculous comments being made by these people, we strongly suggest you read the Arizona fraud statute before you begin typing.  Furthermore, the puppy had a very heavy hookworm infestation upon arrival.  the "breeders" claimed to have regularly de-wormed the puppy, which could not be the case.  The puppy was severely underweight, underdeveloped and anemic.

Hookworm takes 30 days after infection for the dog to shed eggs in the stool and it has to be a very heavy infestation to see eggs in the stool.  Hookworm would be very uncommon in the climate where we live, but would be quite common in Arizona or California. 

If these "breeders" are as good as you say, how do you explain why they shipped a 10 week-old puppy with a severe hookworm infestation all across the country?  The vet who signed the health certificate admitted he had never actually examined the puppy, but signs these as a favor to the "breeders".  This is an equine vet who doesn't even treat dogs and told us so himself.  In fact, as soon as I said, "We have a German Shepherd pup...", I was interrupted and told the vet doesn't examine or treat dogs.

To the person who said to decrease the pup's protein intake.  The pup is on a diet of 26% protein and please read about hookworm before you begin typing.  Hookworm destroys the protein in the dog's system.

This pup arrived nearly dead and many puppies do die from heavy hookworm infestation.

Regarding AKC registration, it is fraudulent to claim to sell AKC registered dogs when they are not.  What part of that don't you understand? 

 

We purchased this dog to breed.  The dog can't be used for breeding because it is not registered and will never conform to the size standard.  This dog has now contaminated our kennel with hookworm.  Vet bills have cost us hundreds of dollars and it's not over yet. 

Heavy hookworm infestation stunts the growth.  This puppy is half the size he should be. 

Thank you for stating how many dogs you have purchased and which you say were imported.  We will relay that information to the Department of Agriculture.  By the way, that makes you a broker, doesn't it?  How much of a cut do you receive for each dog?

If you can't communicate in an intelligent manner, don't bother or we will seek injunctions against you and you could be subjected to testify in court.

Look up Zdenek Blabla and the AKC meeting minutes from April 1999 when he was in Laveen, AZ.  While you're at it, look up the background of Debra Sue Erlinger. 

To the woman with the messy living room...you state that Blabla trained your dog, you don't say he bred it, so what's your point?  This is not a Kaffee Klatch, this is a consumer complaint forum.  It is irrelevant to rant about your "poor immigrant" story.  Hope this immigrant is now a US citizen or a fraud conviction might send him back with $40 in his pocket.

The puppy does not have any symptoms of pancreitis.  The puppy has a heavy hookworm infestation, anemia and most likely a prtozoal infection which appears to be resistant to all treatment.  Go read about cryptosporidium.  It causes equine myeloencephalitis.  We don't have horses and there are no horses anywhere around us.  It's impossible to treat. 

Neither of you, with your ridiculous comments has expressed any concern for what this puppy has endured in his short life.  And to the puppy broker; lucky for you that black is your least favorite color...I doubt that a shepherd the size of a cat could ever act as a protection dog.  We happen to think black is the best color for shepherds, unfortunately for this little pup, he will never reach his full potential because of the poor start he had in life.  Return him to those people?  That is a certain death sentence.

The sheriff found nothing?  Did the sheriff test the dogs?  No.  All that is required is to have food, water and some type of shelter.  There are other avenues that are more concerned with animal welfare than a sheriff's office. 

These "breeders" didn't even contact us to inquire if the pup had arrived and what his condition was.  They don't care about dogs any more than you.  Dogs are just a commodity to be bought, sold and traded.  Like the dog broker said, just trade the dog for another one, like an exchange at Walmart.  These "breeders" have shown no indication that they would provide this pup with the veterinary care and nurturing it needs. 

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The black pup

AUTHOR: sgsdr - (United States of America)

I'm afraid that you are the ones "just not getting it" here.  You are obviously friends of the "breeder" and can't be objective.  I have no reason to believe that I would ever get any money back because I haven't seen any truth from these breeders yet.

I have bought several German Shepherds and NEVER had the problems I have had here.  One person asked why buy something sight unseen?  There are few breeders who have Pohranicni Straze dogs for sale and none of them live anywhere near me.

You people don't even know me, but your behavior is very malicious.  How do you know anything about me?  Do you know I'm a female?  Am I married?  Do I have children.  You know nothing.

As for this breeder and his immigration story, well, it's nothing extraordinary.  My mother emmigrated to the USA as a teenager from Czechoslovakia with a suitcase and spoke no English.  My father emmigrated to the USA after being in a concentration camp as a child and losing his mother.  I am married to a European and have lived in Europe, so what? So, what does that have to do with this dog?  NOTHING.

The pup at 17 weeks old today only weighs 22 pounds.  He still tests positive for hookworm despite having been wormed with Nemex, Canex and now we're trying Panacur.  He has to have a special fecal smear and culture done to check for cryptosporidium. 

To the person who says he saw this black pup, well...maybe the pup you saw isn't the one that was shipped!  To the person with the photo of the dog on the chair, your home is untidy and the pup received was severely malnourished and that is an indication of abuse.  Also, leaving a message on what is allegedly a business phone is not harassment, after all, Alpine K9 is a registerd corporation in the state of Arizona.  There is a time difference, duh....

The pup has now had diarrhea from the day he arrived until today.  I repeat, once again...this pup weighed 9 pounds when he was 10 weeks old, he was a skeleton with fur.  We have NEVER experienced anything like this when purchasing a dog; continual health problems and VERY RUDE response from the breeder.  But thank you all for your malicous diatribes, you are only proving the point.  Very rude people and birds of a feather flock together.  For every one of you, there are 5 others who share a bad experience with us. 

And AKC has confirmed they have not received any application for registration of this dam or sire or litter.  If this has never been a problem, why did Mr. Blabla lose his AKC privileges for 10 years and have to pay a fine for violating Chapter 4, inaccurate record keeping? 

 

 

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#50 Consumer Comment

This woman is seriously malicious and misguided

AUTHOR: Twodogs - (United States of America)

I have known Hans for almost 15 years and have watched his business practices for all those years. Here are the facts I know of Hans:

1. The dogs Hans sells generally come from Europe and do not come with a pedigree in hand. This takes time as there is red tape to go through. No one else has EVER complained that Hans has not delivered papers.

2. Han's vet certified the health of this pup when it was sent. She argued that the vet was incompetent; he's a great veterinarian who would not have certified the pup if it were ill.

3. The woman repeatedly called them in the middle of the night to complain, we're talking at 2 a.m., and sent the police to his home. The police just looked around and said, "We don't see any abused or sick dogs here." Hans finally had to get a harassment injunction so now she has taken to the internet.

4. Hans sells to many law enforcement agencies across the nation. Do you seriously think they would continue to buy his dogs if they didn't get their pedigrees or their money's worth?

5. Hans has offered, if the pup is too small for her taste, to take the pup back. She refuses to return the dog and instead viciously slanders and libels him. He has offered to pay shipping, as well. She wanted all the money for, shipping and wanted to keep the dog.

6. Hans stands behind any dog he sells. I have known him well, watched his business practices for years, and I would buy a dog from him tomorrow if I was in the market.

7. I have owned personal protection dogs for years and Hans trained my last one who just passed at 13 and a half. I would hire him again to train my dogs. His reputation is solid.

9. Hans came to the US with $40 in his pocket, earned his citizenship and is a wonderful, patriotic American. He speaks four languages and is a wonderful, generous human being. I think it is sad to see him slandered.
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#51 Consumer Comment

You Still Don't Get it !

AUTHOR: K9Handler - (USA)

Madam...


Let me condense this down for you...because all you really care about is ranting and raving obviously and I refuse to continue on with this banter...everyone can see that you are upset, but are going about this in the wrong way.


The point I have been trying to make is...GIVE THE DOG BACK AND GET A REPLACEMENT!  Its that simple !!!  Why are you dragging this out?


I will say this for the last time...I have purchased a total of 43 pups to date, 36 from Europe, NONE have come with registration at purchase, ALL were sent sometime between 3-8 months later...from such notable kennels as Eurosport, Anrebri, Elbu, Jinopo, Errinor, etc.  I have bought domestically when the b***h was imported pregant to have AKC and not CMKY or FCI papers from various kennels in the US, again, taking 2-4 months then.  AKC is way faster than CMKY or FCI.  There is no possible way for you to have imported a dog and received AKC papers at the same time...it just doesn't work that way.  Once you do get the export pedigree and registration from the country of origen, you have to send in the original export pedigree, copy of the registration and 2 standing photos, front and side of the dog and fill out the AKC Foreign Registry and send that in, the earliest I have gotten that back from AKC was 3 weeks.


And no, I do not yet have AKC papers for my pup yet either, but I am not worried about it, nor am I concerned about it, nor am I obsessing about like you are.  I know I will get the papers eventually. PERIOD. What is the deal with having to have them right away anyway, I just don't get that.


I find you constantly wanting to play the victim, are you like this in every aspect of your life?  Why in the world would you purchase something site unseen?  That is on you, then is when you could have done something about it, but you CHOSE not too.


As far as "distinguishing features", I do not recall any, he was a black pup to me, my least favorite color, but I don't look as color anymore, just drives and temperment.  You are trying to come up with something to discredit my statements about seeing and handling the pup, which is pathetic and lame.  I did see, touch, work and played with that pup, period.  There were others buyers there as well the second time that can confirm this.


As far as your medications, you also mentioned Amoxicilin, which is known to cause diareaha in both humans and dogs.  And no, you can't continue to medicate, but you can continue to test...and as I ask before, have you tested for Pancreitis?


As far as your foods go...switch to foods with lower protein, raw is best actually.


As far as shipping a sick pup...you have to have a health cert to ship a pup or dog, if he was as bad as you say, he couldn't have passed a health cert.


And finally...I came to this website not to "look them up" or complain, but to stand up for Hans and Alpine K-9, to give my experience with them...for as I said repeatedly... there are way many more satisfied customers than dissatisfied one.


So bottom line to you again...GIVE THE DOG BACK AND GET ANOTHER ONE...why do you want to continue with that one if he is as bad as you say, why keep him?

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Update on pup

AUTHOR: sgsdr - (United States of America)

Thank you for sharing your experience.  This litter was advertised as being whelped in the USA in Arizona.  As I stated previously, Mr. Blabla had advertised the dam of this litter for sale on the Pedigree Database forum back in September, 2009.  Therefore, he had ample time to register this dam with the AKC.


Nearly all of my dogs are imports and I have always received my AKC registration form at the time of purchase.  Responsible breeders do not breed unregistered dogs.  You don't mention in your rebuttals whether you have AKC registration for your pup.


I don't know what could have happened in the time that you saw this black pup and the time I received it, May 24, 2010 when it was 10 weeks old.  I chose the black pup without ever seeing so much as a picture of it.  When I requested photos of it, Mr. Blabla refused and always had some excuse...his wife being in the hospital, for example.  But, he isn't married...


He did send an email telling me that the pup wasn't very big, but he described it as being "medium sized."  I believe he knew there was something wrong with this pup but did not disclose it.


You mention several times that you saw and handled the pup.  If so, tell me one distinguishing feature of the pup that only a person who had actually seen it close up would know, then I may believe we are talking about the same dog.


As for the medication, Flagyl, I did mention in my previous post that the pup was treated for 3 weeks with metronidazole, which is Flagyl.  It showed no improvement.  It is not wise to continue treating with this without a break, as an animal can develop a toxicity to it.


The pup still has diarrhea.  I can't keep  switching foods as that could actually make it worse.  I have tried the cooked ground beef with rice, the Eukanuba that Mr. Blabla recommended, Blue Buffalo Wild, and now Instinct.  I've never gotten firm stool.  today the stool is runny and greenish.


The pup was weighed today and is 17 pounds at 17 weeks.  He is less than half the size of your pup.  Your pup looks very healthy, I agree.  Mine does not.  His hip bones are still visible.  When I received him, he looked like a skeleton with fur.  He looks better now, but far from healthy.  His gums are very pale as well as his tongue.  He has a very sweet temperament and it's not his fault that he has these problems.  He can only play for less than 30 minutes a day and then seems very tired.  He is not very curious about new things.  I am very concerned.


I do not see where Mr Blabla or the proprietor of this company, Debra Erlinger,  had any concern for this puppy at all.  They appear to only be concerned about themselves and their business reputation and sales volume.  They have threatened me that I had better shut my mouth regarding this puppy.  They absolutely refuse to take any responsibility for what is happening and their role in it.  I am shocked that they even shipped this puppy over 3,000 miles in the health condition it was.  No responsible breeder would do that.  A responsible breeder would have informed the buyer that the puppy wasn't doing well, would have sought veterinary care for it and determined the health issue before selling it, then asked the buyer how they wanted to proceed.


I have been lucky and have never had this problem with any other breeder I've done business with.  The worst I have had in the past is roundworms, which is an easy fix compared to this puppy. 


It should not take 8 months to register a dog, even with a foreign pedigree.  I checked with the AKC myself and they said 8 weeks, NOT months.  I explained the whole situation, where the dogs allegedly came from overseas, the whole deal.  NO WAY would it take 8 months.  So, how can I know which dog was actually sent to me?  At this point in time, I have no idea.  And this is very irresponsible for a business.


Back to the vet tomorrow for yet another stool analysis.  They hadn't found any coccidia, but maybe the cysts weren't shedding last time.  If that doesn't give us any clues, I have to take the pup to a specialist to have further tests done.  So far, vet bills over $350 for 6 weeks and still counting.


I am also curious, if you are a pleased customer of the company, Alpine K9, why are you on this website looking them up?

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#53 Consumer Comment

Above Rebutal by Consumer, Not Owner of Company

AUTHOR: K9Handler - (United States of America)

Just for clarification, the above report was mislabeled as "Owner of Company" response, this is incorrect, I am not completely familiar to this sites format and did not see the first page where you checked the appropriate box this time. 

It should have be under the "Consumer Response" as another rebutal to second response to the person who wrote the original report.  My appologies for any confusion this may have caused.

 

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#54 REBUTTAL Owner of company

I Stand by My Statements....

AUTHOR: K9Handler - (United States of America)

Your response to my email mentions only one aspect, the dogs health concerns, I addressed all of your complaints and merely pointed out on several fronts, like the AKC registration that you were misguided or inexperienced, and that was obvious by your complaints, which one can only reason you were inexperienced with. How else can you explain it?  Anyone reading that who has such experience with importing a pup or one from an imported breeding would draw the same conclusion.

Let's clear something up right off...I never called you "stupid" at any point in my rebuttal.  If you are going to respond, do so correctly and not make up things I did not say.  I did not make a personal attack on you, I am just giving my experience.  As I stated earlier, of the hundreds of puppies he has sold, many with repeat buyers such as myself, if he was not reputable and ethical, it is not likely that he would be in business today and certainly he does not have the reputation you describe, rather, quite the opposite. 

But again, I would bet that if your pup has these problems, it is an isolated case.  My pup, a litter mate to yours is perfectly fine and the pup you have, I wanted and personally put hands on it on 2 occassions, the pup was fine both times.  I would say to you again, if you have documented Veterinary proof of these problems, I believe Hans would take the pup back and give you another one.

One question, Have you tested the pup for pancreitis or had the pancreas tested?  I had an Akita years ago that had similar symptoms as what you describe and turned out to be pancreitis.  The digestive enzymes won't help, but they put my dog on another medication that worked.  Also, you mentioned 3 dewormers, but not Flagyl or Panacur, both work well for Giardia, which I personally suspect your pup may still have.  Have a Snap test for Giardia performed.

I stand by the fact that if your pup has the problems you describe and they be of a genentic nature, Hans will live up to their guarantees.  Just a little advice, approach it with a little more tact in the future, you know the old saying, you get more flys with honey, than, well you know......

 

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#55 Author of original report

I am the owner of the black pup

AUTHOR: sgsdr - (United States of America)

I am glad that you had a good experience sir, but I am the owner of the black pup and have several other German Shepherd dogs and also do breeding.  The photo is of the pup when he was 15 weeks old and even today, July 4, 2010, he remains the size of a cat and weighs 15 pounds. 

I am neither stupid nor inexperienced and I take offense to your comments.  The pup has been fed beginning with a food that Mr. Blabla recommended by Eukanuba, which didn't seem to agree with the pup (chronic diarrhea) and now is eating Instinct chicken formula because we thought perhaps he couldn't tolerate grains.  The pup has nearly chronic diarrhea despite havng been treated with Nemex, Metrodiazanole and Amoxicillin.  The pup also does not seem to be able to control his bladder.  I have been cleaning up diarrhea and urine all day and night for nearly 6 weeks.  He has to remain crated in the house and even in the crate, he gives no indication of having to go, he just goes.  I have tried only positive reinforcement techniques, which so far have been ineffective.  So, I have chalked it up to his physical health.

He is so small I can't even introduce him to my other shepherds for fear they will hurt him.  For the first 5 weeks I had him (got him May 24) he was so weak he barely moved.  Only this week, he plays with a ball and runs. 

His head is very small and his ears have never formed correctly.  His bark also sounds very unusual, almost like a small terrier and nothing like a shepherd.

Unlike your experience, sir, Mr. Blabla refused to answer my phone calls and only replied to my emails with threats and nasty words, basically calling me a liar and blaming me.  The first question my vet asked was "Why did you buy this dog and where did it come from?"  He thought I had gotten it from some pupy mill or amateur backyard breeder.

The pup is fed twice a day, 12 hours in-between.  I just finished cleaning the crate of more diarrhea, which I have done today already 5 times. 

Blabla had sent me an email once saying the pup had diarrhea before it was sent to me, but he added, it was no big deal.  Well, it seems it is a big deal.

The vet gave me digestive enzymes, which did not improve anything.  I have tried plain yogurt, plain pumpkin, cottage cheese, I've exhausted all remedies.

None of my other dogs have diarrhea. 

I have a litter right now that is 6 weeks old tomorrow and they will surpass this pup in size in another 2 weeks I would guess. 

Mr. Blabla is one of the nastiest people I have ever spoken to.  I have purchased several dogs from other breeders, also dogs with champion bloodlines and have never before had such a horrible experience.

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#56 Consumer Comment

WOW! I Have Had Totally the Opposite Experience for Over 10 Years!

AUTHOR: K9Handler - (United States of America)

I am writing in response to the negative posting for Alpine K-9.  First, let me tell you that I have been purchasing puppies and dealing with Hans at Alpine Safety K-9 for just over 10 years now.  I am a law enforcement officer.  I purchase, raise and train German Shepherd dogs for police work, both dual and single purpose and for civilians who want personal protection dogs.  To date, I have purchased 14 puppies from Alpine K-9.  I have purchased many pups from various breeder throughout Europe and here in the U.S. and have always found his lines to be superior working dogs to most others I have purchased.

Eight of the Fourteen dogs are actively serving on Police Departments across the country.  Five of them are personal protection dogs for families, all of which love their dogs.  The 14th is in training with me now, a litter mate to the the black pup in question.

I have been to the Alpine K-9 facility several times, the latest was to pick out my puppy from this exact same litter.  First, when they were 6 weeks old and finally at 8 weeks.  After testing the males in this litter at 6 weeks, I found the black puppy to have the highest drives of the litter and what I considered the best looking and best conformation.  Even looking at this pups picture that they posted, he looks very nice and typical for his age, just as mine does now. I wanted that pup, but he had already had a deposit on him (by the way, a $500.00 deposit is pretty much the standard deposit today and the price of $1,600.00 for this breeding of Czech lines is a very good price, others are charging $2000.00 and more, one particular kennel in the Northwest charges $3,000.00 for primarily West German Shepherd bloodlines).  At 8 weeks, I again went back and tested the litter, asking if the black one became available, because after testing, playing and spending the afternoon with them, he was my first choice.  This puppy was energetic, independent, looked gorgeous and again, had the highest drives and a great bite.  Afterall, why did they pick this puppy with the first pick?

I had to chose the next best pup, a dark sable.  At 8 weeks exactly when I brought him home, he weighed 11 lbs., very typical considering there were 13 pups in the litter!  Most pups have some form of worms and/or Giadia, this is typical and treatable, ask any Veternarian.  As of July 2nd, my pup weighs 38 lbs., very typical at nearly 4 months of age.  I don't know what they are or are not feeding or how often or not this black pup is being fed, but I find it almost impossible to believe that the pup I saw at 8 weeks, which was bigger than the one I picked, can only weigh 15 lbs., as they claim.  Makes me question what they are doing (if they do test and it does have pituitary dwarfism, that may expain it), otherwise they may want question what they are or are not doing.

Regarding the registration process, anyone who has ever bought and imported a pup from another country knows that it takes an average of 6-8 months to get the export pedigree and registration, especially from the CMKY or FCI.  Further, when you import a pregnant dog as in this case, not only are you waiting for the papers, but have to register it with the AKC under foreign registration and then after you get those papers back, you send in the litter registration, this only lenghtens the process.  It would be nearly impossible for this pup to have been aquired at 8 weeks with papers.  In over 10 years and 14 pups with Alpine K-9, I have always gotten the papers, always! And you, whoever you are who wrote this, will too, it just takes time.  This person simply doesn't understand the process and is showing their inexperience in purchasing an imported puppy or b***h that was imported pregnant. 

I have known Hans to be of the highest integrity and certainly most knowledgeable of breeders I have bought from.  If I have ever had a problem, he has always remedied it to my satisfaction.  I guarantee you will not find anyone more knowledgeable and ethical.  I also know he cares deeply and passionately about his dogs, puppies and where they go and how they are treated, it would only be out of great concern for this puppy that Hans would have questioned this person, afterall, they will be 4 months on the 11th and we have had more time with them now than they were at Alpine K-9. 

I find these comments to be mostly made out of either ignorance or inexperience.  If this pup truly does have a problem (which could happen to any pup from any litter ever born), that Hans would make it right.  Just give it a chance.  I would also bet that there are many, many more satified customers out there than dissatified ones.  I stand by and highly recommend Hans and Alpine K-9 for all of your puppy and dog purchases without reservation!

 

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