- Report: #65984
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Complaint Review: Alyon Tecnologies, FTC, And Unknown Judge In Alyon Vs. Badbusinessbureau.com Case
Alyon Tecnologies, FTC, And Unknown Judge In Alyon Vs. Badbusinessbureau.com CaseNationwide U.S.A.
Alyon Tecnologies, FTC, And Unknown Judge In Alyon Vs. Badbusinessbureau.com Case. ripoff FTC doublespeak, porn pushing companies, and democratic judges. Add them all up and what do you get? VICTIMS! It is now up to us to sort out the mess. Nationwide
click here for EDitor's comment; Alyon's efforts to resolve complaints and click here to read Alyon's response
*Consumer Comment: This is NOT real, yet it IS real. Did they or didn't they? The long journey down the Alyon rabbit-hole and we STILL haven't reached the bottom!
*Consumer Comment: We are both a little right and a little wrong, but...this is as real as your mama!
*Consumer Comment: Robin, you are notRobin, you are a great gal, but you are not thinking straight
*Consumer Suggestion: No worry man, US Judges haven't gone insane yet , just judges in & ...*EDitor's Comment below
July 14, 2003 PR Newswire: "Alyon Technologies Fully Vindicated In FTC Dispute" . What??
July 16, 2003 WFMY News: "FTC Prohibits Alyon from Collecting Payments" .Huh?
July 17, 2003 PR Newswire: "Alyon Demands That FTC Retract its False and Misleading Press Release" .What??
July 25, 2003 PR Newswire: "Badbusinessbureau.com Found in Contempt of Court in Alyon Case" ..What? What? Why? HOW????
July 29, 2003 KUTV News: "Alyon Technology Barred From Forcing Consumers to Pay for Internet Services Never Provided".Aargh! I am truly confused now, are you?
Alyon Technologies and the FTC have succeeded in muddying the waters to the point that even our major news bureaus do not seem to know what is real and what is not.
The FTC is using doublespeak; telling everyone what they want to hear and I suppose it is now up to us to sort out the mess. One can always count on government involvement to create a SNAFU of epic proportions. Throw a few moronic Judges into the mix and it then becomes a huge cluster f**k!
The FTC will be no help here as they seem unsure of the outcome of their own investigation. What BS employees we have working for us in our government. It appalls me that we pay these clowns salaries! What a waste of capital!
Has the judge who made the insane ruling demanding the removal of Alyon posts on this forum ever seen a copy of the Constitution of the United States, let alone read it? This is all covered under the First Amendment! Let me quote:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
This judge has no business making such a ruling to remove posts as this forum and others like it have been ruled in more than one Court to fall under the same freedom of the press rules as any newspaper. It is a platform for the free exchange of information! If Alyon did absolutely nothing wrong, they would not be in this forum to the tune of hundreds of complaints! Hello-o-o-o
Everyone who submitted a complaint about Alyon Technologies felt that they had been (censored). That is called your opinion, and it is a protected right under our United States Constitution to air that opinion. I did a bit of work myself concerning Alyon and the FTC ruling and object mightily to it being removed just because Touboul does not like it!
In re: Alyon Technologies vs badbusinessbureau.com
Dear Judge whoever-you-are,
I do now have a huge grievance that I want to redress. You do not even seem to have even a very basic understanding of what this country stands for or the laws in place.
Here is what our Constitution guarantees to the citizens of America:
LIBERTY AND FREEDOM. That is all.
Freedom from oppression by the courts or companies. Freedom to speak out in public. Freedom from people like Stephane Touboul, who has the temerity to tyrannize and terrorize American citizens by trying to dictate what we will do with our own computer equipment. Freedom from impudent judges who think they are better and more knowledgeable than our founding fathers and rule according to whim rather than law.
I was not a direct victim of Alyon Technologies. I AM NOW. Every person in this country is now hostage to Alyon Technologies. YOU have single-handedly made every American citizen victims of Alyon. I cannot bear to watch this slow, painful death of our Constitutional Republic at the hands of porn-peddlers and dumb-as-a-box-of-rocks judges trying to practice democracy.
Read your American History books, Judge; democracy was anathema to our founding fathers because it leads to just this scenario. You have squashed the rights of many to favor the rights of a few in the name of democracy. We are NOT guaranteed happiness under our Constitution, we are only allowed the right to pursue it freely AS LONG AS WE DO NO HARM TO OTHER CITIZENS.
Mr. Touboul and Alyon are happy right now; your arbitrary democratic ruling assured that. But you have created a plethora of unhappy people in the process. But it certainly seems that Mr. Touboul did harm to American citizens in the pursuit of his happiness; that he stole their money and resources. That he trespassed into homes where he was not invited or wanted. The sheer number of complaints on this site is a good indication that Alyon is not entirely squeaky-clean in their business dealings. Where there is smoke.
And now Alyon has been allowed by you to silence our voices as well. Where will it end, Judge? How long will we be bound by and forced to pander to Alyon Technologies? What will be the next company to seek and be granted a "gag" order? Perhaps we will all be forced to never say a bad word about McDonald's or Ford Motor....
This will all lead directly to the equal and opposite reaction of the other side (that is all of US, Judge, in case you are in doubt) having to rise up and raise hell until the balance in Society is restored. Then it will start all over again in the name of democracy. It will never end; this cycle will last until the end of time unless you and our entire court system return to the practice of Constitutional law.
America is a "constitutional republic" meaning that we are ruled by the law, with that law being the Constitution. It is so simple that even I can figure out what the ruling should have been in this case. Everything one needs to know is right on this page! It is called the First Amendment and I have placed it in this report for you to look at.
Thanks a lot, Judge, for setting into motion yet another pointless endless war between good and evil in our society that will take years to resolve (and will never be truly resolved, as the pendulum will swing back and it will start all over again). You will ruin some good people along the way, but I guess you do not care, do you? It will certainly keep YOU in a job at the expense of all citizens and all citizens' rights.
My unhappiness does not stem so much from the fact that Mr. Touboul was granted what he so ardently desired. My unhappiness stems from the fact that you have now ruled against my Constitutional right to speak out; not only MY right, but the right of every American to be heard as guaranteed by our Constitution. You are demanding that some of my own work be redacted and I object! You are killing the messenger here and that is called censorship.
This forum has a feature called a rebuttal form. If Alyon Technologies has addressed the problems presented on this site and resolved them to both parties' satisfaction, a notation of this fact can be made right here either by Alyon or by the original complainants. There is nothing unfair going on here; each side is granted an opportunity to speak.
America evidently can no longer trust the very people entrusted to uphold her ideals and values and protect her freedoms if you are any indicator. We will not take this lightly as freedom of speech is about the only right we have left that has not been tampered with and (censored) entirely by the judicial system. But you keep trying, don't you?
You have found this site in Contempt of Court for not removing the Alyon complaints; I find YOUR action contemptible! That order should have never been issued in this country to start with! You are attempting to suppress information. Will the court next order the burning of certain books and newspapers?
Maybe Alyon and Mr. Touboul object to the Bible or the Koran; we had better get rid of them quickly. Perhaps Alyon now thinks that the judicial system is unnecessary now since it has had some flak from there. Perhaps we should also disband the FTC since it dared bother Alyon in its endeavors. Perhaps we should just burn the Constitution as well, if it is getting in the way of Alyon.
I am only one citizen of this country and one voice. I think that you will hear much more about this issue as time progresses. I pray that you do or all will be lost. The people of this country should not be forced to become "flunkies" of Alyon or any other company; what were you thinking?
You have just driven yet another judicial nail into the coffin of this American Republic. Lay down you hammer and do the right thing; seek real justice under our law as it is written. You are wrong in this attempt to censor information. This "gag" order is illegal and immoral. You know it, I know it, and all of America knows it!
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